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Sanford’s Adultery May Be Criminal Under South Carolina Law

sanfordSouth Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R) didn’t just “let down a lot of people” when he spent the last week in Argentina with his mistress, he may have committed a crime.  Under South Carolina law:

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court. . . .  “Adultery” is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.

Fortunately for Sanford, it is not entirely clear that the South Carolina justice system has jurisdiction over an apparent crime that he committed while traveling abroad in Argentina.  His lawyers might also argue that he cannot be convicted of criminal adultery because he and his Argentine lover were not engaged in “habitual carnal intercourse” — Sanford maintains that he only traveled to Argentina to see his mistress on rare occasions.

Nevertheless, Sanford himself explained at yesterday’s press conference that “God’s law indeed is there to protect you from yourself, and there are consequences if you breach that.”  As it turns out, Sanford may need to be more afraid of the consequences that stem from breaching the antiquated laws of South Carolina.

(HT: David Corn)



98 Responses to “Sanford’s Adultery May Be Criminal Under South Carolina Law”

  1. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    He’s guilty of aggravated mopery for sure.


  2. ElBruce says:

    Here’s one of the problems that arises whenever you try to legislate morality: it’s almost impossible to get it right. According to their definition a series of one night stands wouldn’t count as adultery at all – “but honey, it’s OK because I never screwed the same one twice!”


  3. katy says:

    (HT: David Corn)

    huh.

    maybe, surely, david corn reads TP!
    i saw one of the regulars post that information yesterday…


  4. tom says:

    Enough! Enough! I am already operating on irony-overload! Let’s leave poor little Marky Sanford alone for awhile. At least give the state legislature time to demand his resignation for leaving the country and being incommunicado for a week.


  5. Hoodathunktick says:

    A crime of passion? “Honest, officer, I didn’t plan it. I was planning on spending thousands of dollars on airfare, ttally spur of the moment (which is why I ditched my cell phone and didn’t tell anyone) so I could drive the couple of miles of coast road in BA, you know, an adventure and the next thing I knew…


  6. kasinca says:

    Here is a guy who tried to prevent his state with 12.4% unemployment from accepting stimulus funds while he is using government moneies to stiumuate his sexual encounter. The GOP may want to be fiscally conservative, but their actions are very liberal for their personal frailties.


  7. Dirty Hippie says:

    “Hiking the Appalachian Trail” is destined to become catchphrase for all philandering hereafter.


  8. katy says:

    ha!
    wouldn’t you know – it was, i do believe, our very own resident lawyer, BnF:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/24/sanford-beunos-aires/#comment-5699972


  9. Hoodathunktick says:

    Picture caption…”Sorry, just trying to get his darned plank out of my eye.”


  10. tokin librul says:

    probably he’d have had to commit adultery IN South Carolina to be liable under that statute.


  11. misscoleopteramolly says:

    It doesn’t surprise me that South Carolina still has a law against adultery on the books. A few states do — mostly in the South. What will surprise me is if Sanford actually gets prosecuted under that law, since anything done to Sanford will get national coverage. This would do for South Carolina what the Scopes Monkey Trial did for Tennessee back in the 1920’s — and that is to give the impression to the rest of the nation that the state is a backwoods.

    I suspect if Sanford gets into any legal trouble at all, it would be the abandonment of his job for several days without transferring gubernatorial powers to the Lt. Governor. Surely South Carolina has some kind of law about that as well, as the chief executive of any state should be reachable at all times. This would leave Sanford’s sex life out of the issue, and generate far less jeering and mocking from the rest of the country.


  12. Chocolate Jesus says:

    I LIKE that law..honestly, if marriage is a state regulated contract I see no reason why the state cant legitimately create legal penalties for breach of that contract. As I read the law however it seems to extend to also potentially some non-married adulterers…which I dont think is legitimate..but whatever..in any case, it does ALOT more to make marriage meaningful than keeping gays from marrying does..


  13. johnny dol1ar says:

    The GOPiggie buybble thumper claims he master “debated” the issue at his C-Street Club, along with other virtuous x-tians, for about 5 months.

    But nobody had the balls to tell him to quit whining and dump the wife (like Goulianni, Newt, or McSame) or drop the piece on the side before getting caught.

    “Not habitual carnal intercourse”

    Dayum… makes him a bigger loser and whiner.
    He is losing his wife and family over what… email XXX and OOO’s?


  14. alpuz3 says:

    He was there for the conversation. She’s a good listener.


  15. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    I watched Sanford’s press conference yesterday with a slack jaw. All I can say is that I wonder about his sanity. I have to hand it to Rachel Maddow because she also questioned his sanity. That press conference was the biggest bunch of self-serving BS I have ever heard. He took 5 minutes to apologize and at that time we had no idea what he was apologizing for. I’m betting there’s more to come on this one.


  16. misscoleopteramolly says:

    His lawyers might also argue that he cannot be convicted of criminal adultery because he and his Argentine lover were not engaged in “habitual carnal intercourse” — Sanford maintains that he only traveled to Argentina to see his mistress on rare occasions.
    ____________________________________________________________

    And I can just see the national media giving great coverage to the definition of “habitual” under these circumstances — complete with interviews with “experts”, panel discussions, debates, etc. The public will just eat it up. It will be worse than when we all had to endure hearing about Wayne Bobbitt’s p*nis for far too long.


  17. DRxJ says:

    Whatever.
    He’s a powerful, wealthy, white male politician.
    Nothing will become of this except a possible resignation.
    And sympathy from the GOP!


  18. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Sorry, but I can’t get behind this at all. Adultery laws, in fact all of the blue laws, are just stupid. It’s unfortunate that SC still has them on the books, but enforcing them – or suggesting they should be enforced – is just as stupid.

    Sanford has been publicly outed as a hypocrite and a philanderer – and he’ll be back to standard pious bloviation within months. I just hope his wife gets herself a really vicious divorce attorney.


  19. JohnM says:

    Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.


  20. johnny dol1ar says:

    19. JohnM

    No, dum ash. It is his and the hypocrisy of the GOPiggies.

    Nobody told Sanford to go hike the Appalachian all the way to Argentina, and whine like a LOSER for FIVE DAYS.


  21. ElBruce says:

    kasinca Says:

    The GOP may want to be fiscally conservative, but their actions are very liberal for their personal frailties.

    The thing is, they’re hardly “conservative” per the actual definition of the word. Their economic approach is extremely radical and known to be contrary to all fact. Total elimination of all government from ecnomic affairs equates to pure anarchy.

    .

    misscoleopteramolly Says:

    What will surprise me is if Sanford actually gets prosecuted under that law, since anything done to Sanford will get national coverage.

    Given the level of exposure on this case, if he doesn’t get prosecuted under that law, then anyone after him who does can claim they’re a victim of selective prosecution. Which would pretty much invalidate it.

    .

    misscoleopteramolly Says:

    This would do for South Carolina what the Scopes Monkey Trial did for Tennessee back in the 1920’s — and that is to give the impression to the rest of the nation that the state is a backwoods.

    And Tennessee has improved how since then?

    .

    Chocolate Jesus Says:

    I LIKE that law..honestly, if marriage is a state regulated contract I see no reason why the state cant legitimately create legal penalties for breach of that contract.

    Because breach of contract is a matter of civil, not criminal, law. The difference is important.

    .

    JohnM Says:

    Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.

    You always say that.


  22. lokidog says:

    misscoleopteramolly Says:

    Surely South Carolina has some kind of law about that as well, as the chief executive of any state should be reachable at all times.

    You sure would think so. And aren’t governors considered “commander-in-chief” (or something similar) of their state national guard? At the very least, SC had the head of their national guard technically AWOL.

    To hell with Sanford’s zipper problem, his utter failure to meet the most basic requirements of his position should alone force him to resign.


  23. ralph the wonder locust says:

    JohnM has exhausted his “But Clinton!” strategy on Mark Sanford and so now tries to indict TP for covering yet another story of a Republican hypocrite.

    Come to think of it, that story is getting rather old.

    Was THAT your point, JohnM?


  24. Reggie says:

    JohnM Says:

    There are an almost an infinite number of web-sites on the internet and if you do not like what you read here, please feel free to do your blogging elsewhere.


  25. joe cantwell says:

    JohnM Says:
    Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.

    June 25th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    ***

    then i guess this is your last post.

    you’ll be missed.

    buh bye!

    :)


  26. Hoodathunktick says:

    Anyone who thinks this shark has been jumped is obviously a Republican because the best is yet to come.


  27. ralph the wonder locust says:

    lokidog Says:
    misscoleopteramolly Says:

    Surely South Carolina has some kind of law about that as well, as the chief executive of any state should be reachable at all times.

    You sure would think so. And aren’t governors considered “commander-in-chief” (or something similar) of their state national guard?

    As I recall, that was about the fullest extent of Sarah Palin’s claim to any “national security” cred.


  28. thomas mc says:

    Without hypocrites, there would be no GOP.


  29. joe cantwell says:

    ralph,

    if tp has “jumped the shark”

    then he’s gone.

    if it hasn’t

    then he’ll be back.

    KISS.

    :)


  30. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    The traditional meaning of “sanfordized” is a trademarked term for pre-washing of cotton fabric to minimize shrinkage.

    After seeing a couple pictures of Sanford’s very cute brunette girlfriend, Maria Belen Shapur, (those gossip websites are on the job!), I leaned that she is 43 years old, and lives in a Buenos Aires apartment which is located near the Buenos Aires Zoo. She has two teenage sons that are living at home with her.


  31. misscoleopteramolly says:

    ElBruce Says
    June 25th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Given the level of exposure on this case, if he doesn’t get prosecuted under that law, then anyone after him who does can claim they’re a victim of selective prosecution. Which would pretty much invalidate it.
    ___________________________________________________________

    And the law SHOULD be invalidated. As much as I am offended by adultery, I am offended by the government being in our bedrooms even more.


  32. deebaser says:

    Okay, this is a cute “GOTCHA”, but it’s beyond stupid to even suggest that this “May Be Criminal Under South Carolina Law”. A state can’t prosecute you for crimes committed in another fricking country. I seriously doubt South Carolina is going to extradite him to Argentina.

    This post is very ‘hack’.


  33. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Reggie Says:
    JohnM Says:
    There are an almost an infinite number of web-sites on the internet and if you do not like what you read here, please feel free to do your blogging elsewhere.

    Why should he leave. Here he’s a big fish in a little pond (made a big fish by all the people who respond to his idiotic posts). If he were to go somewhere like redstate where his brethren hang out, he would be a little fish in a big pond. He likes to be a big fish so as long as you feed his ego by responding to his idiotic posts, he’ll hang around.


  34. ADAY says:

    Mika and majority of the Morning Joe Panel (Except Willie) seem to be excusing Mark Sanford’s behavior. Mika was whining about there is a double standard with Democrats and Republicans and I am still trying to figure out what is she talking about because what I see is that Democrats resign and Republicans don’t but what I suspect is going on is that they are trying to figure out an excuse for Joe Scarborough to still run for higher office and not making his past a big deal, but hello, cheating on your first wife with your second wife plus others, along with a d ead woman’s body being found in your office and then you suddenly resign from congress is probably not a good path.

    But you can almost tell who the adulterers are on this show and they are the ones who are coming out and excusing Sanford behavior; they are the ones who keep saying well Democrats do it to, what about Bill Clinton (memo to morning Joe; everyone knows about Clinton, late night does comedy about him almost every night) and then you have Joe Scarborough trying to call out the night time pundits with a slight threat of exposure because he doesn’t like how they are taking glee of Sanford and his hypocritical behavior, but the question I have is, does Joe Scarborough really want to go there?


  35. Purple State says:

    JohnM Says:

    Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.

    Then why are you still here giving TP web hits?


  36. lokidog says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    As I recall, that was about the fullest extent of Sarah Palin’s claim to any “national security” cred.

    Ouch! That’s probably where I heard it the “CIC” claim – from Palin! Talk about a no credibility source!

    Thanks for b*tchslap, Ralph :)


  37. Hoodathunktick says:

    For me, the adultery is just something to poke fun at since he has been such a pious marital/family values blowhard. It doesn’t matter who he porked, where or when.

    The main story is he abandoned his post as governor with deliberate forethought.

    But I do thank him for giving the world so much to laugh at while he did it.


  38. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says
    June 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    I watched Sanford’s press conference yesterday with a slack jaw. All I can say is that I wonder about his sanity. I have to hand it to Rachel Maddow because she also questioned his sanity. That press conference was the biggest bunch of self-serving BS I have ever heard. He took 5 minutes to apologize and at that time we had no idea what he was apologizing for. I’m betting there’s more to come on this one.
    _____________________________________________________________

    I (mercifully) missed the Sanford’s presser, but the coverage I’ve been exposed to so far has me questioning Sanford’s general mental wattage anyway.

    How in the world did he think he was going to go AWOL for several days and fly to Buenos Aires without anybody noticing? Hello? This is on a par with Governor Jerry Brown of California (remember him?) taking Linda Ronstadt (his girlfriend at the time) on a business trip with him and expecting the tabloids would leave them alone.

    And then there’s the badly constructed statement on his part. Tip for Sanford — explain what you did wrong FIRST; then apologize. Otherwise everybody will think you’re about to confess to a murder.

    But then, the way he’s been running his state indicates he’s really not the sharpest knife in the drawer, anyway.


  39. tigger says:

    I think we should start a schadenfreude of the week club featuring videos of GOP officials falling apart…


  40. Dirty Hippie says:

    Sanford’s Adultery May Be Criminal Under South Carolina Law

    unless it’s with a farm animal.


  41. ralph the wonder locust says:

    No b!tch-slap intended, lokidog. I just thought it relevant.


  42. Buckie Boy says:

    Hypocrit, hypocrit, hypocrit….will he leave office?

    No, he’s an (R), they lack the ethics gene.


  43. kye says:

    Okay. It is *entirely clear* that SC has no jurisdiction over crimes that didn’t occur in SC. Maybe you should leave the legal questions to actual lawyers.


  44. Just2Stressed says:

    Ok, the man may be a scumbag but we are really stretching it now.


  45. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Don’t Cry for Me Argentina! ROTFL!

    It would be hilarious if Sanford was charged for committing adultry. I don’t have any sympathy for the man.

    I’ve laughed so much this morning listening to Stephanie Miller and now Thom Hartman playing every version of “Don’t Cry for Me Argentina” and “Take a Letter to Maria.”

    Any song about a chick named Maria!

    Sanford has become such a joke!


  46. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Isn’t this when the religious zealots should be chanting…

    “PRESERVE THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE”.

    .


  47. Hoodathunktick says:

    What would folks say if President Obama ditched his security detail and hopped a plane to Katmandu to meditate with the Dalai Lama over the stresses of office without telling his wife or the VP where he was going or how long he would be gone?

    The infidelity part is just frosting on a sh*t cake.


  48. liberalinaredstate says:

    Adday, nice post! Mika whines a lot, or giggles like a school yard girl. It’s offensive, and someone should ask/tell her to stop. Joe s. is looking for a fight, he tried with Jon Stewart and now he’s subtlely going after other cable hosts. His book has given him bigger balls to work with and he’s carefully choreographing his future.
    As for Sanford, an admitted adulterer, a liar, and a hypocrite who invokes God when he’s caught. It’s Standard Operating Procedure with these Family Values ppl. Sure it’s easy to make this a bipartisian issue. But Democrats don’t shove their values down anyone’s throat before during or after their own infidelities.


  49. Reggie says:

    Has anyone looked into when Mr Sanford reserved the airline tickets?

    During his news conference, he alleged that he originally planned to go hiking in Appalachia but changed his mind at the last moment.

    If the reservations were made in advance, this could blow up in his face.


  50. P.D. says:

    I feel for his wife, but Sanford was a total hypocrite. I’m tired of the same ole white Republicans spouting that ‘Family Values’ crap when they don’t practice what they preach. At least Democrats don’t claim they have a hold on moral values and that is why I’m pissed. Spitzer went down. McGreevy went down. But Vitter and Ensign get applauded by fellow Republicans. WTF?


  51. shoeless says:

    JohnM Says:

    Democratic adultery bad.

    Republican adultery good.


  52. Hoodathunktick says:

    Spitzer went down. McGreevy went down. But Vitter and Ensign get applauded by fellow Republicans. WTF?

    For some odd reason, Dems seem to have the remnants of a thing called conscience.

    Republicans have trouble with the word because it has science in it.


  53. shoeless says:

    kye Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Okay. It is *entirely clear* that SC has no jurisdiction over crimes that didn’t occur in SC.

    I wondered why he didn’t just send Maria a plane ticket, and install her in a Columbia, SC hotel.


  54. RantingTommy says:

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    Spitzer went down. McGreevy went down. But Vitter and Ensign get applauded by fellow Republicans. WTF?

    For some odd reason, Dems seem to have the remnants of a thing called conscience.

    Republicans have trouble with the word because it has science in it.

    but it also has the word “con” in it


  55. eyeswideopen1 says:

    South Carolina sounds like quite a funky place. Is slavery illegal there yet?


  56. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Sanford is such a liar – he wouldn’t give a straight answer when asked if he was separated from his wife! The only thing I believe in his statement yesterday is his confession that he’s cheated on his wife.

    The rest is just fluff – he’s just sorry he got caught risking his career, family and reputation! MF HYPOCRITE!


  57. DRxJ says:

    Officially jumped the shark?
    Is that CONservative code for gettin’ some?
    In Argentina?


  58. hanshiro the antlion says:

    “Disappeared, went AWOL, took a powder”….and now

    “Pulled a Sanford?”.=Playing hooky from your job to rendezvous with your O.P.P./mistress/boy toy/pet goat/person that is not your legally wed spouse…


  59. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    JohnM Says: Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.

    Would you please advise regarding the official who made this official? Thank you, in advance.


  60. Reggie says:

    More lies from Fox News regarding the other adultery story.

    The Las Vegas Sun reports that Fox News received Doug Hampton’s bizarre letter — about the affair between Hampton’s wife Cindy and Sen. John Ensign — three days earlier than the right-wing news channel had previously acknowledged.


  61. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Is there an S.C. law against unbridled dumbfukkery?


  62. pastcaring says:

    Until the hypocritical reightwingers stop making political advantage of private matters (such as adultery and sexual/gender identity) they should continue to be exposed and ridiculed as often as possible.

    Out them all.


  63. RantingTommy says:

    PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    JohnM Says: Thinkprogress has officially jumped the shark.

    Would you please advise regarding the official who made this official? Thank you, in advance.

    ToiletM thinks TP is the Fonz


  64. Hoodathunktick says:

    It appears the Republicans, for all their pious cant, really do think with their heads. Too bad it isn’t the one with a brain in it.


  65. RantingTommy says:

    RUCeriousMaggot! Says:

    Is there an S.C. law against unbridled dumbfukkery?

    no

    matter of fact, it can get you a tax break

    bonus if you drive really slow in the left lane

    I just always assumed South Carolina license plates were just made of extra heavy metal.


  66. RantingTommy says:

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    It appears the Republicans, for all their pious cant, really do think with their heads. Too bad it isn’t the one with a brain in it.

    they keep the one with a brain on a shelf in a closet


  67. barracks9 says:

    Ah…the late night comics worried for no good reason when Bush left office. Thanks to the widening array of Republican antics, the fodder just keeps coming.

    And we thank you for that.

    (Not all of SC is backwoods – I just returned from a wonderful long weekend in Charleston. Had we known the Governor was in absentia, we could have staged a coup. Damned missed opportunities!)


  68. evangenital says:

    I hope that his marriage continues to be rocky, and that it finally implodes. I do not like hypocrites like Sanford making the lives of others a living hell, just because they don’t fit the holy roller definition of “American.”

    In a sense, I feel some pity for his aggrieved wife. It must be noted, however, that she has actively aided and abetted in the persecution of gay men and women.
    Furthermore, the Sanfords and their repiggie friends have constantly angered its black citizens with their fanatical embrace of the Confederate flag as a marker for the state. Is this what authentic “Christian” behavior has been reduced to?



  69. AmiBlue says:

    Surely dereliction of duty and abandoning one’s post is a greater wrong to the public good. Of course infidelity opens an official to the possibility of blackmail, but if you are as incompetent as Sanford it wouldn’t make any difference.


  70. ranus69 says:

    I still wanna know how Sanford was able to pull off such a trip by going to Argentina without the State Department not showing any record of him leaving the country or using his passport. Or for that matter her possibly coming here to the US without being notice?

    My only conclusion is that he used an alias or she came here under an alias and that would be a real problem?

    If US public officials can slip out of the country like Sanford allegedly said he did than the US has a real, real bad problem and only debunks “Evil” Cheney’s claims that America was safe under Bush and his watch.

    I wish this issue was pressed a bit more, as this is a matter of National Security and there’s no telling what Sanford told his Argentine mistress?

    You can’t put anything pass these Rethuglicans?


  71. An Outhouse says:

    Maybe its not illegal if you commit adultery outside of SC. And also it has to be someone of the opposite sex or its not illegal either.


  72. Leftside Annie says:

    *snicker*

    Schadenfreude…the other white meat. ;o)


  73. LibertyLover says:

    He’s certainly guilty of Outsourcing His Affairs to other countries.
    Does he believe in “Free Trade” Agreements?


  74. tom says:

    Another wing-nut weighs in on the Sanford story

    Grover Norquist, on the Sanford meltdown: “It does indicate that men who oppose federal spending at the local level are irresistible to women.”


  75. ElBruce says:

    Reggie Says:

    More lies from Fox News regarding the other adultery story.

    The Las Vegas Sun reports that Fox News received Doug Hampton’s bizarre letter — about the affair between Hampton’s wife Cindy and Sen. John Ensign — three days earlier than the right-wing news channel had previously acknowledged.

    And remember, Ensign went public because he found out that his ex-employee was going to tip off the news. Well, his first story was that he was being blackmailed, but then it turned out he was just trying to get “ahead of the story.” I wonder who buried it and tipped off Ensign instead of reporting what they knew, hmm?

    .

    An Outhouse Says:

    And also it has to be someone of the opposite sex or its not illegal either.

    What? That’s extra illegal! This is South Carolina we’re talking about:

    SECTION 16-15-120. Buggery.

    Whoever shall commit the abominable crime of buggery, whether with mankind or with beast, shall, on conviction, be guilty of felony and shall be imprisoned in the Penitentiary for five years or shall pay a fine of not less than five hundred dollars, or both, at the discretion of the court.


  76. Leftside Annie says:

    Jebus. Who knew the guv was auditioning for “Evita”??

    /snark


  77. Bobwurst says:

    Until pics of Maria and Johnny frolicing topless in the surf show up on the cover of the National Enquirer, I’m holding out for the juicier story that this is just the cover for.


  78. Bobwurst says:

    Jumping the Shark
    Hiking the trail
    Writing away from the kids
    Shaking off the Devil
    Having a wide stance
    askeered of the big black guys

    I just can’t keep up with the kids’ fancy lingo these days…


  79. realitarian says:

    the poor guy. he’s suffered so much, already. he had to fly to another continent to get laid.

    *snort**


  80. Chocolate Jesus says:

    >Because breach of contract is a matter of civil, not >criminal, law. The difference is important.

    I know you feel the need to constantly disagree with me but you are aware civil and criminal law can interact right? I may have a civil contract with my doctor to perform surgery but if hes not liscensed to practice when he performs on me, its pretty certain he’s in violation of some criminal statutes. Sooo puleeze dont give me that “its a civil matter so it cant be criminal cr@p”


  81. Chocolate Jesus says:

    Oh and lets not forget hot checks, I guess because me writing a check is a civil contract between me, the merchant, and my bank, the state isnt allowed to make any criminal penalties for writing hot checks…that would be news to the district attorneys around here.gosh bruce you might want to think a little bit before going off with your kneejerk disagreements You might want to stick to sticking up for hypocritical drug addled wh0res claiming to be spokespeople for absintinence, at least thats a simply a matter of taste as opposed to being downright ignorant..


  82. Chrisdutch says:

    Ensign last week, Sanford this week. Gosh, maybe Mondays will be worth it after all because I can’t wait until next Monday.


  83. ElBruce says:

    Chocolate Jesus Says:

    >Because breach of contract is a matter of civil, not >criminal, law. The difference is important.

    I know you feel the need to constantly disagree with me…

    You’re who again?

    .

    Chocolate Jesus Says:

    Sooo puleeze dont give me that “its a civil matter so it cant be criminal cr@p”

    It’s up to his wife whether to sue for divorce or not – “sue for” indicating it’s a civil matter. If enforcing marriage contracts (all contract law is civil law) were a criminal matter then nobody would have the option of fixing a marriage once one of the parties had cheated. The state would be taking the option of staying married out of the hands of the other partner. In my mind, that would be a bad thing in many instances. Choice is good.

    I know of no form of contract law that is criminal, rather than civil law. As a matter of fact, I believe that enforcement of contracts is pretty much the definition of civil law.


  84. barrelhse says:

    Crying like a Boehner. They really are all the same.


  85. Republicans Love Facts says:

    If a (R) does it, lock ‘em up. If a (d) does it, it’s a “personal matter,” right?


  86. curious says:

    Ah yes the old partial adultery stuff. That and a lot of one handed typing on the old keyboard. Hence the typos on the email. It is only women who can multitask.

    As for a law against adultery. Let’s not be stupid. What his state should be doing is finding out if tax payer money was used for these sordid little Argentinian trysts. God, I don’t believe I could say all that. If he did indeed use tax money for that, then he can truly cry a river. And with enough water he might be able to float back to Argentina.

    “Don’t cry for me Argentina. The truth is I never left you.” Sorry, I could not resist that song title. It cried out to be sung, or hummed or reproduced in some way.


  87. obama-biden2009 says:

    Damn you “curious”, “Don’t cry for Me Argentina” has been playing in my mind since last nights crying game by the Gov…

    Moral high ground, the Republicans take, until they get caught with their d*cks in the cookie dough.

    Impeach Clinton, bl*w jobs in the WH! Craig, bl*w jobs in the bathroom stalls it’s okay, Gov. Palin forgives you so let’s make this a private issue okay?


  88. flight says:

    If we were good pious people we would try to realize the devestation this poor guy has brought on himself.
    Come on don’t you feel a twinge of sympathy for Sanford?

    On the other hand the smug son of a b!tch thought he was above the law, both moral and civil. Sanford was caught with his pants down and it is downright hilarious. Move over Clinton bashers, you have a new poster boy, and boy does he deserve it.
    We are going to have some fun with the Republicans and their high moral diatribes. Can’t wait!


  89. ElBruce says:

    It just bugs me that this takes the news spotlight off Ensign so fast… now that guy’s a real sanctimonious bastard.

    .

    flight Says:

    Come on don’t you feel a twinge of sympathy for Sanford?

    I kinda do. I hope he gets the gumption to flee all of these burdensome problems and responsibilities and just take off back to Argentina to live out his sexy romantic fantasy forever.


  90. wiley says:

    I wonder if anyone has gone to jail for adultery in S.C. in the last hundred years. Personally, I think this is a law that can be scrubbed. It’s criminalizing a personal matter. It assumes that fidelity should be considered a crime for all married people. It pushes my bickering-married-couple button. Work out your own damned marital problems—I don’t want to hear about them, and I certainly don’t want any public money being spent on prosecuting adultery.

    The main issue is that he was derelict in his duties. He ruined things with his own base over adultery, but I suspect that this will be as antiquated as the law against adultery, in time. Seems Republicans don’t want the government to benefit us with our money, but they sure as hell want the government to punish us with it.


  91. Reggie says:

    Reggie Says:
    June 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Has anyone looked into when Mr Sanford reserved the airline tickets?
    During his news conference, he alleged that he originally planned to go hiking in Appalachia but changed his mind at the last moment.
    If the reservations were made in advance, this could blow up in his face.

    KABOOM

    From TPM:
    Report: Sanford Booked 10-Day Argentina Trip
    By Zachary Roth – June 25, 2009, 4:24PM

    On or around the day his wife asked him to move out, South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford booked a ten-day trip to Buenos Aires, a person familiar with the governor’s travel plans told POLITICO.

    Sanford booked the trip on Delta Air Lines on June 10, using the company’s SkyMiles program, the source said. He bought a ticket for June 18, returning June 28.

    Jenny Sanford said yesterday, June 24, that she’d “asked my husband to leave two weeks ago.”


  92. Uosdwis says:

    If they ever actually enforced those laws, which they don’t, they wouldn’t need the stimulus money or the jails would be very overcrowded, or both, “at the discretion of the courts.”


  93. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    His lawyers might also argue that he cannot be convicted of criminal adultery because he and his Argentine lover were not engaged in “habitual carnal intercourse”

    So, a little on the side is okay, but too much on the side is not okay.


  94. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    A national law against adultery with a fine would settle our national debt.


  95. lvdragonlady says:

    Always check the fine print when in Bible thumper territory.


  96. pd says:

    Didn’t I read somewhere that Sanford’s wife said that it was not unusual for him to disappear for days without notice? I’m sure someone, somewhere is digging into his records to see how many trips he made directly to Argentina, or Argentina via Mexico or some other country.


  97. MartinD says:

    Gives a whole new meaning to the line “Kissing her down there”…



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