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	<title>Comments on: SCOTUS rules strip search is unconstitutional, but school officials immune from accountability.</title>
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		<title>By: idimension</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5709641</link>
		<dc:creator>idimension</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Clarence Thomas guy has a history:
&quot;Wright, who worked with Thomas at the EEOC before he fired her,[17] told staff of members of the Senate Judiciary Committee during an interview that Thomas had repeatedly made comments to her, much like those he allegedly made to Hill, including pressuring her for dates and commenting on her body.[18][19] Wright said that Thomas made comments about her and other women&#039;s anatomy &quot;quite often.&quot;[19] Wright told several senators&#039; staff that Clarence Thomas asked her the size of her breasts.[18]&quot; - Wikipedia

After she refused a date he fired her for supposedly lackluster work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Clarence Thomas guy has a history:<br />
&#8220;Wright, who worked with Thomas at the EEOC before he fired her,[17] told staff of members of the Senate Judiciary Committee during an interview that Thomas had repeatedly made comments to her, much like those he allegedly made to Hill, including pressuring her for dates and commenting on her body.[18][19] Wright said that Thomas made comments about her and other women&#8217;s anatomy &#8220;quite often.&#8221;[19] Wright told several senators&#8217; staff that Clarence Thomas asked her the size of her breasts.[18]&#8221; &#8211; Wikipedia</p>
<p>After she refused a date he fired her for supposedly lackluster work.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5709641', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: seslikent</title>
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		<dc:creator>seslikent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: prozac-me</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5703429</link>
		<dc:creator>prozac-me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The supreme court is supposed to be composed of the finest minds in our country. But, hey Clarence Thomas whatever you do &lt;strong&gt;STAY CLASSY.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supreme court is supposed to be composed of the finest minds in our country. But, hey Clarence Thomas whatever you do <strong>STAY CLASSY.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5703429', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mari2RR</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5703202</link>
		<dc:creator>mari2RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be on a school board in Texas.  I cannot imagine any school personnel doing such a stupid thing.  First, our schools had guidelines as to what was allowable and teachers and administrators followed them explicitly.  No school board should get away with it if they approved such a despicable thing that allowed this treatment of any child.  I am thrilled that the Court made this decision and I trust that this young woman is feeling much more hopeful after this decision by the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be on a school board in Texas.  I cannot imagine any school personnel doing such a stupid thing.  First, our schools had guidelines as to what was allowable and teachers and administrators followed them explicitly.  No school board should get away with it if they approved such a despicable thing that allowed this treatment of any child.  I am thrilled that the Court made this decision and I trust that this young woman is feeling much more hopeful after this decision by the Supreme Court.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5703202', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5703027</link>
		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see letting the people off this time, things have gotten out of hand in the school system. Pressure to be &quot;tough&quot; comes from all sides. Make sure, however, that administrators know such an act is a violation of the constitutional rights of the children and their parents. If parents want to have these administrators fired, they should look into that. I suspect that there is a pattern of overstepping their boundaries, and this is not an isolated incident. People should be asking what else they might be doing that could be considered outside of their actual authority or a violation of constitutional rights.  

It would be real nice, if someone with authority explained the difference between violating a policy and committing a crime and sent that information to all school administrators. There appears to be an assumption that they can criminalize violations of policy and take police action. They aren&#039;t cops. A child bringing an ibuprofen to school is not a criminal. School administrators aren&#039;t doctors either. I see no reason for them to remove a child&#039;s clothing---not even the school nurse has a reason to remove a child&#039;s clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see letting the people off this time, things have gotten out of hand in the school system. Pressure to be &#8220;tough&#8221; comes from all sides. Make sure, however, that administrators know such an act is a violation of the constitutional rights of the children and their parents. If parents want to have these administrators fired, they should look into that. I suspect that there is a pattern of overstepping their boundaries, and this is not an isolated incident. People should be asking what else they might be doing that could be considered outside of their actual authority or a violation of constitutional rights.  </p>
<p>It would be real nice, if someone with authority explained the difference between violating a policy and committing a crime and sent that information to all school administrators. There appears to be an assumption that they can criminalize violations of policy and take police action. They aren&#8217;t cops. A child bringing an ibuprofen to school is not a criminal. School administrators aren&#8217;t doctors either. I see no reason for them to remove a child&#8217;s clothing&#8212;not even the school nurse has a reason to remove a child&#8217;s clothing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5703027', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rjw.progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702882</link>
		<dc:creator>rjw.progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoeless says:

&gt;&gt;The Angry Republican Says:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;THEREFORE...I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#039;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME...

&gt;&gt;No, now that they&#039;ve ruled on it, that&#039;s illegal. That&#039;s the point of ruling on it.

There were a range of facts which were very important - the court did not rule that all strip searches are illegal in schools, but that&lt;strong&gt; on these facts,&lt;/strong&gt; the search in this case was unconstitutional.

It might well have gone the other way if there had been more concrete accusations or if the alleged drugs had been &quot;street drugs.&quot;

BTW, this was one area where Thomas made some (although not complete, IMHO) sense - he argued that there shouldn&#039;t be different standards depending on the nature of the illegal drugs (and yes, the accusation was about alleged illegally possessed prescription drugs.)

That is, if the facts had been all the same except the allegations said she had had oxycontin, or PCP, say, would the strip search have been constitutional under the majority&#039;s opinion?

If the answer is yes, are administrators given adequate guidance as to which drugs are &quot;dangerous&quot; enough to warrant a strip search?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoeless says:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;The Angry Republican Says:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;THEREFORE&#8230;I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#8217;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;No, now that they&#8217;ve ruled on it, that&#8217;s illegal. That&#8217;s the point of ruling on it.</p>
<p>There were a range of facts which were very important &#8211; the court did not rule that all strip searches are illegal in schools, but that<strong> on these facts,</strong> the search in this case was unconstitutional.</p>
<p>It might well have gone the other way if there had been more concrete accusations or if the alleged drugs had been &#8220;street drugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, this was one area where Thomas made some (although not complete, IMHO) sense &#8211; he argued that there shouldn&#8217;t be different standards depending on the nature of the illegal drugs (and yes, the accusation was about alleged illegally possessed prescription drugs.)</p>
<p>That is, if the facts had been all the same except the allegations said she had had oxycontin, or PCP, say, would the strip search have been constitutional under the majority&#8217;s opinion?</p>
<p>If the answer is yes, are administrators given adequate guidance as to which drugs are &#8220;dangerous&#8221; enough to warrant a strip search?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702882', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rjw.progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702865</link>
		<dc:creator>rjw.progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Well, let&#039;s go look at the title of the case: SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING.
&gt;&gt;.... Interesting thing there, they were suing the kid! Talk about some persecution.

In this case, the title reflects who is bringing the latest appeal - the school district was appealing from the court of appeals ruling

It does not reflect who originally sued whom: which here was the parents on behalf of the student suing the school district and the 3 main school officials who &quot;participated.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BTW, the opinion can be read/DL&#039;d here&lt;/a&gt; And don&#039;t mistake the syllabus/summary at the beginning of the case report with the actual pinion, which begins on p 5 pf te .pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Well, let&#8217;s go look at the title of the case: SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING.<br />
&gt;&gt;&#8230;. Interesting thing there, they were suing the kid! Talk about some persecution.</p>
<p>In this case, the title reflects who is bringing the latest appeal &#8211; the school district was appealing from the court of appeals ruling</p>
<p>It does not reflect who originally sued whom: which here was the parents on behalf of the student suing the school district and the 3 main school officials who &#8220;participated.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf" rel="nofollow">BTW, the opinion can be read/DL&#8217;d here</a> And don&#8217;t mistake the syllabus/summary at the beginning of the case report with the actual pinion, which begins on p 5 pf te .pdf.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702865', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702658</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;shoeless Says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;    ElBruce Says:

    I would assume this was a civil suit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t pedophilia a criminal offense?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, let&#039;s go look at the title of the case: SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING.

Nope, that&#039;s a civil suit.  Interesting thing there, they were suing the kid!  Talk about some persecution.


.

&lt;em&gt;rjw.progressive Says:

IOW, Thomas thinks strip searches are routine!&lt;/em&gt;

Well, duh.  He&#039;s Clarence Thomas.

.

&lt;em&gt;The Angry Republican Says:

THEREFORE...I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#039;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME...&lt;/em&gt;

No, now that they&#039;ve ruled on it, that&#039;s illegal.  That&#039;s the point of ruling on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>shoeless Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>    ElBruce Says:</p>
<p>    I would assume this was a civil suit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t pedophilia a criminal offense?</em></p>
<p>Well, let&#8217;s go look at the title of the case: SAFFORD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT #1 ET AL. v. REDDING.</p>
<p>Nope, that&#8217;s a civil suit.  Interesting thing there, they were suing the kid!  Talk about some persecution.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>rjw.progressive Says:</p>
<p>IOW, Thomas thinks strip searches are routine!</em></p>
<p>Well, duh.  He&#8217;s Clarence Thomas.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>The Angry Republican Says:</p>
<p>THEREFORE&#8230;I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#8217;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME&#8230;</em></p>
<p>No, now that they&#8217;ve ruled on it, that&#8217;s illegal.  That&#8217;s the point of ruling on it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702658', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Firefly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702610</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Angry Republican Says: 
OMG...

They agreed it was illegal but then went on to say the school has NO LIBILITY due to the search...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

They didn&#039;t say the school has no liability, just the individuals who actually did the search.

However, notice is now given from here on that school administrators who conduct strip searches are going to be held personally liable unless they can show a &lt;em&gt;bona fide&lt;/em&gt; safety issue to justify the search.</description>
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<blockquote>The Angry Republican Says:<br />
OMG&#8230;</p>
<p>They agreed it was illegal but then went on to say the school has NO LIBILITY due to the search&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t say the school has no liability, just the individuals who actually did the search.</p>
<p>However, notice is now given from here on that school administrators who conduct strip searches are going to be held personally liable unless they can show a <em>bona fide</em> safety issue to justify the search.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702610', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Angry Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG...

They agreed it was illegal but then went on to say the school has NO LIBILITY due to the search...

THEREFORE...I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#039;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME...

This is a crap decision.
The entire SC needs to be removed and replaced....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230;</p>
<p>They agreed it was illegal but then went on to say the school has NO LIBILITY due to the search&#8230;</p>
<p>THEREFORE&#8230;I CAN STRIP SEARCH YOUR KID ANY DAMN TIME I WANT IN SCHOOL ON ANYBODY&#8217;S ACCUSATION WITH NO LIABILITY FOR THE CRIME&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a crap decision.<br />
The entire SC needs to be removed and replaced&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702393', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rjw.progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702355</link>
		<dc:creator>rjw.progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute: turns out we all have an easy solution when the school assumes too much &lt;em&gt;in loco parentis&lt;/em&gt; authority:

&quot;Restoring the common-law doctrine of in loco parentis would not, however, leave public schools entirely free to impose any rule they choose. “If parents do not like the rules imposed by those schools, they can seek redress in school boards or legislatures; they can send their children to private schools or home school them; &lt;strong&gt;or they can simply move.&lt;/strong&gt;” See Morse, 551 U. S., at 419 (THOMAS, J., concurring).&quot; [Emphasis added]

BTW, Thomas cites himself several times as authority for the positions hes asserting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute: turns out we all have an easy solution when the school assumes too much <em>in loco parentis</em> authority:</p>
<p>&#8220;Restoring the common-law doctrine of in loco parentis would not, however, leave public schools entirely free to impose any rule they choose. “If parents do not like the rules imposed by those schools, they can seek redress in school boards or legislatures; they can send their children to private schools or home school them; <strong>or they can simply move.</strong>” See Morse, 551 U. S., at 419 (THOMAS, J., concurring).&#8221; [Emphasis added]</p>
<p>BTW, Thomas cites himself several times as authority for the positions hes asserting!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702355', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JungleJoel</title>
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		<dc:creator>JungleJoel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not hard to imagine UNCLE TOMass abusing himself whilest dreaming of strip searching young white girls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not hard to imagine UNCLE TOMass abusing himself whilest dreaming of strip searching young white girls!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702334', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rjw.progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702327</link>
		<dc:creator>rjw.progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REading Thomas further: he wants a return to the days of yore - e.g., late 1700 and early 1800&#039;s:

&quot;The perils of judicial policymaking inherent in applying Fourth Amendment protections to public schools counsel in favor of &lt;strong&gt;a return to the understanding that existed in this Nation’s first public schools&lt;/strong&gt;, which gave teachers discretion to craft the rules needed to carry out the disciplinary responsibilities delegated to them by parents.&quot; [Emphasis added]

Can&#039;t wait until a school caning case goes his way.

Wonder if he feels the same way about slavery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REading Thomas further: he wants a return to the days of yore &#8211; e.g., late 1700 and early 1800&#8217;s:</p>
<p>&#8220;The perils of judicial policymaking inherent in applying Fourth Amendment protections to public schools counsel in favor of <strong>a return to the understanding that existed in this Nation’s first public schools</strong>, which gave teachers discretion to craft the rules needed to carry out the disciplinary responsibilities delegated to them by parents.&#8221; [Emphasis added]</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait until a school caning case goes his way.</p>
<p>Wonder if he feels the same way about slavery?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702327', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Liberal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702303</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCOTUS ruling or not, these so called administrators should be put on trial for sex crimes against a minor and when convicted required to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCOTUS ruling or not, these so called administrators should be put on trial for sex crimes against a minor and when convicted required to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702303', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John Barringer</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702274</link>
		<dc:creator>John Barringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Whenwillthisnightmareend Says:&quot;Thus the big question, What rock does Clarence Thomas live under? His &quot;legal opinions&quot; are about as far from mainstream America as the Vatican is.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Which makes perfect sense since he&#039;s a convert to Catholicism.  Worse yet, he&#039;s a member of Opus Dei, a seriously crazy right wing sect of Catholicism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Whenwillthisnightmareend Says:&#8221;Thus the big question, What rock does Clarence Thomas live under? His &#8220;legal opinions&#8221; are about as far from mainstream America as the Vatican is.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Which makes perfect sense since he&#8217;s a convert to Catholicism.  Worse yet, he&#8217;s a member of Opus Dei, a seriously crazy right wing sect of Catholicism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702274', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rjw.progressive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702271</link>
		<dc:creator>rjw.progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading the decision-- two points

1: The qualified immunity arises from the fact/conclusion that the unconstitutionality of the search wasn&#039;t clear under existing law.

2:  Thomas&#039; basic argument: &quot;It also grants judges sweeping authority to second-guess the measures that these officials take to maintain discipline in their schools and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge. This deep intrusion into the administration of public schools exemplifies why the Court should return to the common-law doctrine of in loco parentis under which “the judiciary was reluctant to interfere in &lt;strong&gt;the routine business of school administration&lt;/strong&gt;, allowing schools and teachers to set and enforce rules and to maintain order.” [Emphasis added]

IOW, Thomas thinks strip searches are routine!

BTW: search and seizure cases (as well as other constitutional issues) require judges to exercise their empathy in determining whether a search is reasonably within a person&#039;s &quot;expectation of privacy.&quot;

In light of their Sotomayor hysteria, many Republicans, it seems, don&#039;t want judges who can actually do the job we give them.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading the decision&#8211; two points</p>
<p>1: The qualified immunity arises from the fact/conclusion that the unconstitutionality of the search wasn&#8217;t clear under existing law.</p>
<p>2:  Thomas&#8217; basic argument: &#8220;It also grants judges sweeping authority to second-guess the measures that these officials take to maintain discipline in their schools and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge. This deep intrusion into the administration of public schools exemplifies why the Court should return to the common-law doctrine of in loco parentis under which “the judiciary was reluctant to interfere in <strong>the routine business of school administration</strong>, allowing schools and teachers to set and enforce rules and to maintain order.” [Emphasis added]</p>
<p>IOW, Thomas thinks strip searches are routine!</p>
<p>BTW: search and seizure cases (as well as other constitutional issues) require judges to exercise their empathy in determining whether a search is reasonably within a person&#8217;s &#8220;expectation of privacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>In light of their Sotomayor hysteria, many Republicans, it seems, don&#8217;t want judges who can actually do the job we give them&#8230;..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702271', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chrisdutch</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702266</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrisdutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, so we won&#039;t have to look at Ann Coulter in the buff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, so we won&#8217;t have to look at Ann Coulter in the buff.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Whenwillthisnightmareend</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702243</link>
		<dc:creator>Whenwillthisnightmareend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus the big question, What rock does Clarence Thomas live under?  His &quot;legal opinions&quot; are about as far from mainstream America as the Vatican is.  But this was another GOP nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus the big question, What rock does Clarence Thomas live under?  His &#8220;legal opinions&#8221; are about as far from mainstream America as the Vatican is.  But this was another GOP nomination.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702243', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: spencers mom</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702242</link>
		<dc:creator>spencers mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has it ever been disclosed whether those involved with the &quot;strip search&quot; of this female child were all women?  Because if there was a man in the room or at the door, and I were this girl&#039;s parents, no bullshit SCOTUS decision would prevent me from filing charges against the school district!

PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has it ever been disclosed whether those involved with the &#8220;strip search&#8221; of this female child were all women?  Because if there was a man in the room or at the door, and I were this girl&#8217;s parents, no bullshit SCOTUS decision would prevent me from filing charges against the school district!</p>
<p>PEACE<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702242', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/strip-search-ruling/comment-page-2/#comment-5702227</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unfreaking believable.  Acting on a tip from another student, these holier than thou school administrators decided that violating a student&#039;s civil rights AND her dignity was in the best interest of the student body because of their ridiculous no tolerance policy on drugs that includes OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATIONS?  How can they not be held liable if the GD Supreme Court rules they broke the law?

The US is rapidly becoming a nation of imbecilic interpretations of asinine laws designed to punish &#039;offenders&#039; who dare to defy the morality Gestapo.

Why shouldn&#039;t that girl and her family be able to sue the fertilizer out of that school, the individuals responsible, and the school board that instituted this ridiculous policy and who are all guilty of breach of trust at the very least?

Thanks again Justice Thomas for your enlightened views on what constitutes abuse of power; I wonder if you would hold the same opinion if that had been your daughter humiliated in this obscene fashion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unfreaking believable.  Acting on a tip from another student, these holier than thou school administrators decided that violating a student&#8217;s civil rights AND her dignity was in the best interest of the student body because of their ridiculous no tolerance policy on drugs that includes OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATIONS?  How can they not be held liable if the GD Supreme Court rules they broke the law?</p>
<p>The US is rapidly becoming a nation of imbecilic interpretations of asinine laws designed to punish &#8216;offenders&#8217; who dare to defy the morality Gestapo.</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t that girl and her family be able to sue the fertilizer out of that school, the individuals responsible, and the school board that instituted this ridiculous policy and who are all guilty of breach of trust at the very least?</p>
<p>Thanks again Justice Thomas for your enlightened views on what constitutes abuse of power; I wonder if you would hold the same opinion if that had been your daughter humiliated in this obscene fashion?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5702227', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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