ThinkFast: June 25, 2009
ThinkFast: June 25, 2009
President Obama is set to meet with congressional leaders in both parties today “to begin laying the political groundwork for sweeping immigration legislation.” While lawmakers are looking for Obama to use his political capital to push the issue, White House aides say that Obama “does not intend to get out in front of any proposal until there is a strong bipartisan commitment to pass it.”
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad assailed President Obama today, claiming that “Obama made a mistake” in condemning the crackdown in Iran. “We were not expecting Mr. Obama” to “fall into the same trap and continue the same path that Bush did,” said Ahmadinejad. At the same time, opposition leader Mir Hussein Moussavi said he would “not back down.”
The White House announced yesterday “that it had withdrawn invitations to Iranian diplomats to attend Fourth of July festivities at U.S. embassies around the world.” “July 4th allows us to celebrate the freedom and the liberty we enjoy,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. “Freedom of speech. Freedom of religion. Freedom to assemble peacefully. Freedom of the press. So I don’t think it’s surprising that nobody’s signed up to come.”
Venezuela and the United States yesterday said that “they will restore their ambassadors more than nine months after President Hugo Chavez expelled the U.S. envoy in his final diplomatic bout with the Bush administration.”
The U.N.’s high commissioner on human rights, Navanethem Pillay, yesterday “appealed to the Obama administration to release Guantanamo Bay inmates or try them in a court of law, and said officials who authorized the use of ‘torture’ must be held accountable.” “People who order or inflict torture cannot be exonerated, and the roles of certain lawyers, as well as doctors who have attended torture sessions, should also be scrutinized,” Pillay said.
“Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid,” a Senate Commerce Committee report found. At a hearing yesterday, “three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell ‘junk’ policies that do not cover needed care.”
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that “[t]hree-quarters of Americans think the federal government should regulate the release into the atmosphere of greenhouse gases from power plants, cars and factories to reduce global warming” and that 52 percent of Americans support “a cap-and-trade approach” to doing so.
“Six days before U.S. combat forces are due to withdraw from major Iraqi cities, a bomb hidden under vegetables on a three-wheeled motorcycle killed at least 60 people and wounded 135 more in Sadr City.” The bombing other attacks earlier in the week that killed 109 Iraqis earlier in the week.
And finally: Obama’s head of Regulatory Affairs, Cass Sunstein, may have some romantic competition. Indeed, actress Kristen Bell — who was in Washington yesterday lobbying with the advocacy group Invisible Children — seems to be a bit taken with Sunstein’s wife, Samantha Power, who serves on the National Security Council. “Last time I was here, I met Samantha Power. She’s my idol. I can’t even explain how my heart was beating, I was so badly trying to absorb every bit of her,” Bell said of Power.
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I’ve never trusted them damned trikes!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:06 am“Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid.”
That sounds like fraud to me, selling something and not fulfilling the promise. This is group Obama, Baucus and Conrad kow tow to. Simply bizarre.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:06 amI’m glad Obama is standing up to the insurance companies. Luckily, he isn’t kow towing to them, like the right wingers did.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 am“Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid,” a Senate Commerce Committee report found.
1st rule of health insurers: Deny ALL claims.
This is corporate greed at it’s worst. Letting sick Americans die to up your profit margin has become the norm for these predatory medical brokers.
They should be investigated & put behind bars. One of BCBS’ exec up here was just found with 600,000 pictures of child porn on his PC.
Americans want single payer coverage, Congress.
Get it done or be done!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 amHealth insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid,” a Senate Commerce Committee report found. At a hearing yesterday, “three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell ‘junk’ policies that do not cover needed care.”
But this is the BESTEST way to do healthcare in the world. It is bester than any other country, because we are exceptional and only compare against ourselves. #1 out of 1!!! And capitalism and free market insurance providers are the gooder thing for us, because only they have our bester interest at heart and wants us to be healthy and insured. // :/ //
No, really, they DO want everyone to be BOTH healthy AND insured. That raises the bottom line, more money for doing nothing at all. More money to pay the lobbyests, to keep more money coming in through deregulation and lack of quality controls.
Yep. The free market sure does regulate itself well, and operates to the best interest of the consumers. Yeah, riiiiight…..
June 25th, 2009 at 9:12 am““We were not expecting Mr. Obama” to “fall into the same trap and continue the same path that Bush did,” said Ahmadinejad.”
don’t worry about that happening dude in the ill-fitting suit. if obama were to “fall into the same trap as bush” right now missles would be raining down on tehran.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:13 amI really thought that Fourth of July story was from the Onion. I seriously wish this country was run by adults rather than by grade school children. You crack down on dissidents and you can’t come to the celebration of our independence, Nyah.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:13 am“People who order or inflict torture cannot be exonerated, and the roles of certain lawyers, as well as doctors who have attended torture sessions, should also be scrutinized.”
This is the proverbial cat they don’t want let out of the bag.
Everyone involved with torture, directly or peripherally should be charged. America needs to make the Bush Regime an example of what we will not allow.
These guys knowingly fabricated ‘policy’, covered up the truth to all of us, including Congress and need to pay a high price.
Meanwhile, the arrogant little shit Bush has crawled out of hiding to open his stupid mouth. Cheney has been on a CYA tour for most of the past 4 months.
They’re worried.
They should be.
Justice is blind. We need to keep her that way. Charge the bastards now, & we begin the healing process all of us desperately need.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:15 amWhile not mentioned above…
Mark my words in the Mark Sanford debacles: there’s a kid involved.
There’s only ONE reason a wife would allow the father of her children to be with his mistress over Father’s Day weekend. He guilted her into allowing him to spend FD with his lovechild, who has missed every Father’s Day with his father so far.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:16 amSingle payer heathcare NOW!!
Make health insurance companies illegal. Period. They serve no useful purpose, and their operations are completely immoral in concept and execution.
F#CK the health insurance companies.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:17 amRantingTommy Says:
a bomb hidden under vegetables on a three-wheeled motorcycle killed at least 60 people and wounded 135 more
I’ve never trusted them damned trikes!
Its not the trike… its those damnned vegetables that’ll kill you. I’ve been sayin’ it since I was a wee-nipper…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 amIranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad assailed President Obama today, claiming that “Obama made a mistake” in condemning the crackdown in Iran.
Did I miss something? What is he refering to? What did the President say?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:22 amOT, but I really should have taken ElBruce up on that Sanford bet yesterday… Hookers….Please! Man… I wish I had that $5. lol
June 25th, 2009 at 9:22 amWait until you’re carving up a mountain road on your motorcycle and some dude that can’t ride anymore is on his trike running 10mph under the speed limit in front of you.
You’ll hate trikes too. You may even throw those veggies at the dude!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 amWhite House aides say that Obama “does not intend to get out in front of any proposal until there is a strong bipartisan commitment to pass it.”
You mean like the strong bipartisan support they used to pass their democRATic Pork Fest?
Zimzone Says:
1st rule of health insurers: Deny ALL claims.
OK…I watched the movie too…I knew that’s where you liberTurds got all you’re enlightened information.
RantingTommy Says:
I’m glad Obama is standing up to the insurance companies. Luckily, he isn’t kow towing to them, like the right wingers did.
…because nothing is more American then the Presidential Messiah Supreme Dictator forcing private companies into bankruptcy because dead weights don’t want to pay for insurance and want everyone else to.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 am“bipartenship” in immigration reform?
Not sure if this is a good thing – after all, its the corporations that underwrite that party that are actually responsible for the mass influx of illegal aliens.
And it has nothing to do with being humane or “compassionate” – its all about cheap labor. In the communities around here, any manufacturing town or agriculture produces that need help all have extensive communities of immigrants and the employers actively recruit illegals.
While repugs talk a good immigration game (or at least mclame did), they will actually sit on their hands before they will do anything. They will only make enough noise to placate the ignorant part of their base that doesn’t get it (most of their dwindling support).
Besides, they have written of the Hispanic vote anyhow when they went into full-frontal attack mode against Judge Sonia Sotomayor.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 amdeebaser Says:
OT, but I really should have taken ElBruce up on that Sanford bet yesterday…
I’ll ‘bet’ Sanford wishes yesterday never came. It’s always interesting to watch these lying pieces of shit try to cover their ass in public.
Yes, we’ll see tears.
Yes, God’s name will be invoked.
Yes, they’re determined to save a marriage.
Yes, they’re worried about the children.
Sanford, you poser, perhaps you should have thought of that before pulling your dipstick out, eh?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:27 amJeff Bovine Says:
Because nothing is more “American” then calling an elected President a “Messiah Supreme Dictator”.
If that is what he is acting like…I fail to see why REAL Americans…and not Phony Amerikans like you can’t understand that!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 amReality Check–Go hike yourself.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:31 amAlternativeReality Check says:
…because nothing is more American then the Presidential Messiah Supreme Dictator forcing private companies into bankruptcy because dead weights don’t want to pay for insurance and want everyone else to.
I thought Hal Turner was in jail.
WTF?
Do they really let inmates blog now?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:32 amBouncedCheck is cute when he pretends to know stuff
June 25th, 2009 at 9:33 amRealityCheck Says:
You sound like you need to take advantage of the mental health benefit of your insurance plan. I wonder if your claim will be denied? I worked in healthcare reimbursement for 12 years, claims are denied first time around over 75% of the time. On appeal, they got paid. Appeals are a wasteland of inefficency and cost more than if the original claim was paid to begin with.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 amRantingTommy Says:
You’ll hate trikes too. You may even throw those veggies at the dude!
Fair enough. Can I just throw the veggies on principle?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 amZimzone Says:
Do they really let inmates blog now?
and that is the way you liberTurds deal with facts…just make personal cuts and hide behind a keyboard!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 am“Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid,” a Senate Commerce Committee report found. At a hearing yesterday, “three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell ‘junk’ policies that do not cover needed care.”
What?
I’m shocked! I tell you SHOCKED!
Last night on the ABC series one of the ‘reporters’ asked President Obama why the government should get involved….
Duh…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:36 amRealityCheck Says:
Why don’t REAL Americans believe me when I say that Obama is the Muslim Socialist terrorist Antichrist and that our real president is Sarah Palin? There must be something wrong with them!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:36 amFree The Enraged Geezers!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:37 amToo bad reality bounces its checks and keeps handing out checks it can’t cash.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:38 amI wonder if HalAlternativeRealityCheckTurner bends over while he blogs.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:39 am“July 4th allows us to celebrate the freedom and the liberty we enjoy,” White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. “Freedom of speech. Freedom of religion. Freedom to assemble peacefully. Freedom of the press.
Freedom to wiretap anyone.
Freedom to ‘detain’ you indefinitely.
Freedom to use the military for an invasion of choice.
Freedom to commit war crimes.
Freedom to use the ‘free press’ to catapult their propaganda.
Freedom to assemble peacefully, two blocks away, in the designated area, out of ear-shot of the subject of the protest.
Freedom to bribe elected officials.
Freedom to allow corporate interest to control the government.
Freedom to loot the national treasury.
Oh yeah, it’s all free as the breeze and wide open here in the U.S. of A.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 amUntil they decide to go all patriot act on your ass.
RealityCheck Says:
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Zimzone Says:
Do they really let inmates blog now?
and that is the way you liberTurds deal with facts…just make personal cuts and hide behind a keyboard!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Since when has your moronic and useless opinion ever been remotely confused as fact , dipshit ?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 amRemind me again, how many suicide bombings did Iraq experience prior to Bush’s invasion?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Ummmmm…None? Yeah, I think that’s about right…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 amRUCeriousMaggot! Says:
Last night on the ABC series one of the ‘reporters’ asked President Obama why the government should get involved….
Gee…are you talking about the Free Presidential Infomercial that they wouldn’t even give the other side it’s time to respond? What a freaking joke.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 amOk. As much as we don’t like President Obama’s continued insistance on bipartisanship, I’m beginning to understand.
Obama is very shrewd, and far more forward-looking than most of us are capable of being. His insistance on bipartisanship is dividing the Republican Party.
Intelligent Republicans (yes, there are those) are breaking with the Reich-wing fringe. This will take time and patience, but Obama is pulling the Republican party (kicking and screaming) back to center.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 amRealityCheck Says:
…because nothing is more American then the Presidential Messiah Supreme Dictator”
hey stupid, 43 the dooshbag who was spying on americans without a warrant and created “free speech” zones is no longer in office. do try to keep up
June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 amRealityUnchecked,
This will be my one and only time I will address you directly.
Do you normally start name calling first thing in the morning?
Because it does nothing to help your cause, whatever it may be (my money’s on attention and disruption for your own personal gain).
I will not be reading anymore of your drivel.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:43 amHave a wonderful, and productive day!
Gee…are you talking about the Free Presidential Infomercial that they wouldn’t even give the other side it’s time to respond?
Awww, does baby want a Fairness Doctrine now? What a pwecious little hypocrite he is!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:43 amRealityCheck Says:
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RUCeriousMaggot! Says:
Last night on the ABC series one of the ‘reporters’ asked President Obama why the government should get involved….
Gee…are you talking about the Free Presidential Infomercial that they wouldn’t even give the other side it’s time to respond? What a freaking joke.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 am
No one cares what the insurance companies , and their imbecilic supporters , the godawful GOP , has to say , d-bag…….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:44 amIrony deficient blood in this one.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:45 amRealityCheck Says:
You mean like the strong bipartisan support they used to pass their democRATic Pork Fest?
Like the bi-partisan support he republicans sought during the 8 years of Bush?….
OK…I watched the movie too…I knew that’s where you liberTurds got all you’re enlightened information.
i have no clue what movie you refer to. I don’t get my information from movies. You know, “The Matrix” is a pretend movie, and is not historically accurate…
…because nothing is more American then the Presidential Messiah Supreme Dictator forcing private companies into bankruptcy because dead weights don’t want to pay for insurance and want everyone else to.
Nothing says “American” like disrespecting the democratically elected President of the US.
Nothing says “American” like the (republican led leadership) bailing out private companies with taxpayer money and no strings attatched. Ooohh. that also says “Free market capitalism works” too, doesn’t it?….
And if the insurance companies face bankruptcy because not enough peole want to pay them the outrageous fees they expect, isn’t that itself a function of capitalism? Why does the company have a RIGHT to exist, regardless of people’s choice or ability to finance said company? You seem to want to argue that they company should exist regardless of performance, affordability, or desire of people to pay them for their ’service’. If people don’t WANT the service as a company offers it, should not that company, by the tenets of free market capitalism idoelogy, be allowed to GO bankrupt?
Your logic is circular.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:45 amRUCeriousMaggot! Says:
Too bad reality bounces its checks and keeps handing out checks it can’t cash.
Zimzone Says:
I wonder if HalAlternativeRealityCheckTurner bends over while he blogs.
Too bad I have to go to work now at the hospital…so I can pay for your FREE health care. Have fun giving each other your normal reacharounds.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:46 amOnce again AlternateRealityCheck shows up to perform the nearly impossible: single-handedly lower that average intelligence level of the Troll Patrol output.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:47 amlet’s face it, RealtyChump is the type of unstable assclown who would open fire in a church where kids are putting on a production of “Annie” because the talking heads at faux told him 17 virgins would be waiting in heaven for him.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:47 amHey, to the Darylls and bitblts of the world.
We now have proof positive that homosexuality is neither a choice, nor a genome issue.
It’s the demons!
/snark
June 25th, 2009 at 9:48 amRealityCheck Says: OK…I watched the movie too…I knew that’s where you liberTurds got all you’re enlightened information.
First of all, it’s not the only place, though CNN was forced to admit that Moore’s facts in the movie were accurate, because they were.
Secondly, I just saw CNN Headline News report, albeit briefly, that Insiurance Companies are dropping people with cancer and women who are pregnant in droves.
Lastly, Liberalism is called liberal because it’s about free-thought (you know liberty). Unlike ou cons, we can read and research and THINK for ourselves. You should try it… Really.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 amRealityCheck Says:
“Too bad I have to go to work now at the hospital…so I can pay for your FREE health care.”
Enjoy wiping people’s asses and emptying the bedpans!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 amRealityCheck Says:
Gee…are you talking about the Free Presidential Infomercial that they wouldn’t even give the other side it’s time to respond? What a freaking joke.
Wait… i thought you weer against the Fairness Doctrine. Or are you for it when it benefits your political party of choice and against it when it does not?
And you hold this same complaint for Bliio, Hannity, Rush, FOX “news”, etc…. right?….. right? ……. RIGHT?…..
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 am…Gee…are you talking about the Free Presidential Infomercial that they wouldn’t even give the other side it’s time to respond?…
Waaaahhh! Fox nuze wasn’t invited…Waaahhhh~!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 amI guess they won’t be able to bash the president,,,oh wait…that’s all they ever do,….
MCMetal Says:
No one cares what the insurance companies , and their imbecilic supporters , the godawful GOP , has to say , d-bag…….
Now see…you have expressed the USUAL LiberTURD response to free speech that I call you on all the time. It’s only free speech to YOU…if it is about what YOU”RE view is. It’s silence the opposition when it comes to everyone else. Way to go Stalin in proving my point!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:51 amZimzone Says:
I wonder if HalAlternativeRealityCheckTurner bends over while he blogs.
Too bad I have to go to work now at the hospital…
We’re glad to hear you’re going to get your meds. Please take them as your Dr. ordered this time, mmmkai?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 amIt will make you less nervous when you’re bending over to blog in jail.
‘RealityChuck, bedpan in 4122 overflowing, stat!’
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 amBozo The Neoclown Says:
Enjoy wiping people’s asses and emptying the bedpans!
In your case…you’re mouth and azz are the same thing!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 amSpecial Pro Trolling Tip: When you say, “I have to go to work at now,” you actually have to stop posting for awhile.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 amhey stupid@54,
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 ami thought you were leaving for eight hours of wiping crap crusted asses and emptying bedpans. buh-bye now!
Remind me again, how many suicide bombings did Iraq experience prior to Bush’s invasion?
You realize, I hope, that the U.S. is ultimately responsible for all of the suicide bombings and genocide that took place after Bush II’s invasion.
To keep the peace after invading a country is the invader’s responsibility under International Law. Peace in Iraq prior to the invasion was due to Saddam’s use of military force on his own population. Remember him using nerve gas (which he bought from the U.S.) on the Kurds after Bush I encouraged them to rise up against Saddam?
When you remove the military which has been subduing internal ethnic strife and leave a power vaccuum, internal violence is a predictable outcome. Bush II was so advised, but refused to send in enough troops to keep the peace. Only after the genocide and ethnic cleansing of tribal regions did Bush II institute “The Surge” and claim success in establishing the peace. Yet, even then, suicide bombings did not stop. And they’re not likely to anytime soon, either.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:54 amRealityCheck Says:
“In your case…you’re mouth and azz are the same thing!”
hey stupid,
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 amnot only does that make no sense, it’s grammatically incorrect. It’s “your” the possessive pronoun ya dipsheeyat, not “you’re” the contraction
RealityCheck Says:
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MCMetal Says:
No one cares what the insurance companies , and their imbecilic supporters , the godawful GOP , has to say , d-bag…….
Now see…you have expressed the USUAL LiberTURD response to free speech that I call you on all the time. It’s only free speech to YOU…if it is about what YOU”RE view is. It’s silence the opposition when it comes to everyone else. Way to go Stalin in proving my point!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Not caring what a group of morons (like yourself) have to yammer about , is not “silencing the opposition” , you lying GOP suckhole ………
Is there a one of you cancervative pieces of shit that’s remotely honest and possesses an IQ above room temperature ?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 amHey RC, I thought you were leaving to go mop those floors at the hospital? Why you still here?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:56 amJust read the Sanford email to his mistress.
Blechh.
Well, at least the one time presidential candidate, husband, and father of four, can fall back on the ole “I was blinded by LOVE” standby.
Double blechh.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am…
rc,
thought you were going to work…?
oh no… you lied about having a job?
how disappointing.
:|
June 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am“Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid,” a Senate Commerce Committee report found. At a hearing yesterday, “three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell ‘junk’ policies that do not cover needed care.”
No Mercy.
The insurance companies should be driven to their knees for the thousands of deaths and anguish they have inflicted on their customers, never mind the Orwellian minefields they’ve assembled to refuse people and the monopolistic wagon-circling over pre-existing conditions.
Such industry practices need to be leveled and repeatedly discouraged through regulation. The insurance industry has caused so much distortion, (such as blaming usuriously rising rates on lawsuits instead of the truth: the stock market losses incurred by the industry.) and heartbreak.
Perpetuating a parasitic industry only encourages for-profit healthcare, the abomination of any ‘civilized’ culture. Drive them out.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:56 amNo, realitycheck, don’t go yet…
I really want to know the answers to my quesitons above.
How about your arguing for the Fairness Doctrine? And why don’t you apply that to other media and pundits?
And more importantly, if the people don’t want a business at the price it wants to charge and are dissatisfied witht he service or product, WHY do you argue that the business should NOT go bankrupt? Why don’t you believe in the free market and capitalism?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 amHow woulda thought that Checked Into The Boards By Reality supported the fairness Doctrine?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am…
“gee”?
trolls really love that word.
“gee!”
:)
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 amSeriously…why do you whine about name calling and then turn right around and proffer insults? Is hypocrisy some kind of requirement to get in the conservative club?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:58 amSorry, Cagey… I didn’t see that you had noted our little friend’s staunch support for the Fairness Doctrine before I posted…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:59 amJeff Bovine Says:
So, you support the Fairness Doctrine now. Congrats. You need to start demanding that Rush, Levin, Hannity, Savage, and the rest start giving equal time to opposing views on their programs.
See…you liberTURDS still don’t get it do you? You want the Government to decide what is broadcast instead of the free market. I would support the Fairness Doctrine only IF it included every means of broadcast communications instead of just an attack on Talk Radio. This would also include TV…all Radio…Internet…Magazines…including the liberal Readers Digest…Time…etc and Newspapers.
You would then lose you’re complete monopoly in all those areas. They should also force NPR to do it too…as my taxpaying dollars currently fund you’re communist programming.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:00 amJeff Bovine Says:
It’s obvious your job at the “hospital” involves buffers and floors.
Hey, whoah. Do not disparge custodians. There is more to such a job than RC could handle (custodians do not “just sling a mop” — espescially in a hospital).
RC is not going to work at a hospital… he must be going to ‘work the hospital’, begging for handouts outside.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:01 amSo… to recap, our silly little friend thinks that NOT CARING what someone else has to say is the same thing as SILENCING them.
Teh Stoopid is strong in this one.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:01 amWait.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:02 amDo you hear anything?
It sounds like an almost inaudible whine for attention?
Or a fart in the wind.
Whichever.
CageyCretin whines as usual…and notice before I leave now that I answered the question on #77. Be careful of what you ask liberTURD…you just might get it!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:03 amWhoah.
There it is again.
Weird.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:04 amralph the wonder locust Says:
Sorry, Cagey… I didn’t see that you had noted our little friend’s staunch support for the Fairness Doctrine before I posted…
No need to apologize. For myself, I appreciate confirmation that I am not the only one noticing these inconsistencies. Besisdes, I can be too wordy sometimes and not clearly state my position.
I also note that RC is completley ignoring my questions. By troll logic, that means he admits to defeat on the points.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 amRealityCheck Says:
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CageyCretin whines as usual…and notice before I leave now that I answered the question on #77. Be careful of what you ask liberTURD…you just might get it!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Just leave already , you brainless jackass ………..
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 amBye now RC. Have fun making lots a money, so you can pay for my healthcare. Thanks.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 amDoes anyone else smell something like dog crap just now?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 amSo?
;)
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 amThose bedpans aren’t getting any emptier, RealityChump…
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 amCageyCretin Says:
Jeff Bovine Says:
It’s obvious your job at the “hospital” involves buffers and floors.
actually my job is giving directions to imbeciles like yourself…to the nut ward!
Bye…and hurry up now so I can greet you at the entrance.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 amRealityCheck Says:
You would then lose you’re complete monopoly in all those areas. They should also force NPR to do it too…as my taxpaying dollars currently fund you’re communist programming.
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this really jumps out at the reader.
here rc, try working it out this way:
“You would then lose you are complete monopoly in all those areas. They should also force NPR to do it too…as my taxpaying dollars currently fund you are communist programming.”
you see? doesn’t make sense, does it?
now try it again, the right way:
“You would then lose your complete monopoly in all those areas. They should also force NPR to do it too…as my taxpaying dollars currently fund your communist programming.”
a little caring goes a long way.
….
you’re going to be late for work.
:)
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 amRUCeriousMaggot! Says:
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Does anyone else smell something like dog crap just now?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
We can “thank” RealityChump and watchingdogdreck for that……
June 25th, 2009 at 10:08 amDayum… I seem to be a couple of steps behind everyone else in snapping towels at RC’s saggy butt.
Nevertheless, I’m pleased to announce that RealityChoad has earned a spot in the Troll Hall of Fame™ for his achievement in expanding the boundary of what constitutes censorship.
Thanks to RC’s tireless efforts “silencing” others no longer stops at mere criticism, as other trolls would have it. Nope. Now “silencing” the opposition includes simple lack of interest in what they have to say. I think it’s safe to characterize this as advancing the cause by an order of magnitude.
Congrats, RC!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 amRealityCheck Says:
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CageyCretin Says:
Jeff Bovine Says:
It’s obvious your job at the “hospital” involves buffers and floors.
actually my job is giving directions to imbeciles like yourself…to the nut ward!
Bye…and hurry up now so I can greet you at the entrance.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Since when did psychiatric wards have valets and Wal*Mart-type greeters ?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 amAs has been said before, (just not on the MSM where they are suddenly possessed of a sympathy reserved only for their own bootlick-corporate cronies,) Mark Sanford should absolutely be remorselessly driven from office.
Until these sanctimonious jackasses stop presuming to morally and artificially elevate themselves above others for political gain, we ought to be ruthless in the application of their own standards to their own behavior.
With enough cases of athlete’s mouth, maybe a light will dawn….
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 amOur a.m. Troll should seriously consider looking for work in the health care insurance industry, where it would find it’s peers.
The thought of this Troll working in a hospital is spooky.
OTOH, maybe he’s the security guard in ER, & gets to shoot people that are sick.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:11 amIn my other life, we run into alot of guys like RealityChump. They come around the club and talk tough, but then when push comes to shove, their the first to run, the first to cry and the first to fall.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:14 amAnd since when did psychiatric health care professionals refer to their facility as “the nut ward”?
Could our friend be telling a fib? Presenting himself as something he’s not?
Never mind, RC, even if you’re a failure in your career as a Health Care Technician, you can always point to your plaque in the Troll Hall of Fame.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:17 amRC obviously got fired from his challenging job as a WalMart greeter, now works on the shipping dock of the local hospital greeting the trucks that haul away the medical waste.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 amRealityCheck Says:
You want the Government to decide what is broadcast instead of the free market.
Ummm… doesn’t the “free market” have the capacity to PAY (as in capitalism) to run ads and such if that is their intent? Oh… but you want the free market to be able to advertise for free? Wow.
And you did not answer my questions above — though you did address one of the issues — the Fairness Doctrine. However, that links to this comment about free market and advertising. Oh, but you are not talking about ads, right? You want the privte insurance industry, a capitalistic venture, to be given free time to post its position (which is, by the way, advertising for itself)?
I suppose, then, that whenever there is any politician speaking on any point that you believe that there should be a counterpoint given? Then why are you not clamoring to hear equal (free) time by the GLBT community whenever a repubilcan goes on and on about “marriage between one man and one woman”? How about the pro-choice getting equal time to rebut the anti-choice crowd?
You are not arguing for fairness nor equality — you want special treatment for what you support: in this instance, a private industry.
If the claims are patently false, then who would believe them? Most people have had some dealing or another with insurance agencies, and have a good basis to judge from their personal experiences as well as additional outside information.
What RIGHT does a privte company have to exist, particularly if the majority of the people do not like the service nor the costs? Why should they NOT be driven to bankruptcy? If, as you posit, most people want the high priced and NECESSARRY service to be free, why should there be special provisions to protect that business instead of offering market alternatives (part of the free market capitalism — competition that is TRULY competition)? And if those market alternatives cause the business to fail, why should the business NOT fail?
Your position is that you support business over people, profits over people, and corporatism over democracy and a properly operating capitalism (which requires enforced regulations to BE properly functioning).
June 25th, 2009 at 10:19 amRealityCheck Says:
See…you liberTURDS still don’t get it do you? You want the Government to decide what is broadcast instead of the free market.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
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No, we don’t. We absolutely want the FREE market to decide what is broadcast, and we absolutely DON’T want the government to decide.
You have to HAVE a free market first. A broadcast market that is dominated by three mega-corporations is not free. What we want is more independent media, more local control of media. THAT is how you achieve fairness.
Also, let’s dispense with the moronic “my tax dollars fund your NPR” talking point, shall we? While the government does give $400,000,000 per year to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, from which NPR derives a mere 2% of its annual fuding, this PALES in comparison to the amount the government spends on advertising on for-profit network television. The Army alone spends over $800,000,000 on recruitment advertising, and that’s just one branch of the military.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:20 amRealityCheck Says:
Bye…and hurry up now so I can greet you at the entrance.
Thanks for confirming my assessment of your “job”.
And I’m afraid that I do not give money to strangers who accost me on the street.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:23 amChyron HR Says:
Special Pro Trolling Tip: When you say, “I have to go to work at now,” you actually have to stop posting for awhile.
I respectfully disagree in this case, because trolling here is his only job. When it stops posting, it’s either a coffee or lunch break.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:24 amRealityCheck Says:
You want the Government to decide what is broadcast instead of the free market.
Obama is proposing an option. If people gravitate to such an option, if made available, what’s it to you? If the insurance companies are the great providers they lobby themselves as, there’s nothing to worry about with so much as just another option added to the marketplace, right?
The right-wingers still haven’t offered an explanation as to why the most humane science should remain a for-profit cesspool. Maybe that’s because right-wingers enjoy seeing people suffering and don’t want to shut off that gravy train.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:28 amYou have 1/6 of the economy pulling down the other 84%. That is overleveraging the marketplace, a cinderblock on a lizard.
21% of Americans are registered with the GOP. Because the other 79% apparently suspect the GOP enjoys bringing the pain to more than just the terrorists.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:37 amMegaloptera McWars Says:
The right-wingers still haven’t offered an explanation as to why the most humane science should remain a for-profit cesspool.
Part of the reason is that they are getting a “pass” on this pointof the issue. This point needs to be brought to the forefront INSTEAD of the whole “free market” “governemtn intervention” screeching.
Most peole are NOT as callous as it seems. If the media even half-azzed picked up the points about the ethics of for-profit-healthcare, and the disconnect between a sharholder profit driven business and the medical service industry ther would be an even greater cry to see the industry giants (med insurance and big pharma) fall.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:41 amI hear RC is a steward of the tax payer? We’ll see about that, once he finds a a crisp invoice for all costs accrued and future obligations incurred for his invading Iraq.
Installment plans not available.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:44 amSure we need to see a movie. I spend $12.5K for Blue Cross and can’t get them to pay for a torn tendon in my daughter’s wrist. She’s 14 years old and they insist she must have been injured on the job. Get a clue.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:47 amCagey, I have a nagging feeling that people in the media really know better about the health care debate, but they’re more afraid than anything of the nasty letter signed by multiple GOPers. Wouldn’t it be great if PBS ran the health care debate?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:50 amThe Army alone spends over $800,000,000 on recruitment advertising, and that’s just one branch of the military.
Great point Toasterhead
Someone should do a little digging into how much the armed forces contribute to NASCAR’s bottom line .
I am willing to wager that since GW Bush was president that figure is way north of $100,000,000 in direct payments.
And there are other ways Nascar has benefited, the GOP slipped in a big tax break for ISC, attached to the bailout bill.
And there are a few more ways that tens of millions of your tax dollars are used to benefit Nascar and it various holding companies.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:50 amI wish I had the means and resources to research this more.
Obama: Drop the Bipartisan BS.
Your trying to clean up the Elephants mess while the Elephants are busy trying to sh!t on you.
Please stop it with the Bipartisan BS.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:57 amAfter wading through all this thread it reminded me today is Thursday and the pumper truck will soon arrive at our little resort and pump out the porta a potty…Recent thread’s have all seemed the same to me of late…Much like before the election…A full crapper that need’s to be emptied…A few good posts scattered with ton’s of back and forth poop….With that I take my leave and go to the garden….We are still at war here and all over the world.. What ever happened to Peace.?…..P. B. & J
June 25th, 2009 at 11:02 amWhen it stops posting, it’s either a coffee or lunch break.
or a cheeto jones fix….
June 25th, 2009 at 11:08 amIt’s an important point: People arguing for national health care do so from bitter experience.
Opponents argue from theory and ideology. (wacky ideology, moreover.)
It’ why I suspect that the trolls on health care are college Republicans. They’re just plain sheltered. (It’s also why they use the tired old ‘I’m leaving now to go to my well-paying job” ploy–and then continue to post.) Either going to the university clinic or just having Mom & Dad pay for everything is a good way to indulge one’s free market fantasies and hatred of liberals.
It’s also why they think that we’re angry about health care because of Michael Moore’s Sicko. that’s as close as they’ve come to actual interface with the health insurance industry. (Mind you, they haven’t actually watched it–just read the indignant reviews of it on the right-wing sites.) It’s all just socialism versus capitalism to them.
There are the rich and powerful who are only interested in the profits of their industry (and even that is deceptive, because the rest of the corporate world suffers atrociously from the depredations of the health industry)–but the trolls aren’t that. to them it’s just a Rand novel.
Except that when John Galt has a stroke, he ends up paralyzed and aphasic because the hospital won’t admit him without insurance.
The trolls think everybody else is 20 too, and that this is getting back at the hippies and save-the-whales-chicks in the other dorms. And they think that only losers and minorities have problems–based on nothing but their own classic sense of immunity.
It’s a real disaster. It’s happening to successful white families that send their kids to good colleges. It’s making America less competitive, less vigorous (the only way someone can start their own company is if their spouse has a job with benefits) and slipping inch by inch into second class status. If you try to tell people how good they’ve got it, it goes over as well as Phil Gramm calling us a Nation of Whiners.”
Ooops. Gotta run. There’s the bell.
June 25th, 2009 at 12:48 pmYou hear that bell, kid?
It tolls for thee, punk.
From Truthout on the Supreme Court’s dismissal of the Valerie Plame lawsuit:
The Obama administration’s representative before the Supreme Court, Solicitor General Elena Kagan, had also sought the dismissal of the civil suit. Kagan argued that the Wilsons had no legitimate ground to sue and further argued that Ambassador Wilson failed to prove that he was harmed by the attacks he endured from Cheney and others for accusing the Bush administration of twisting prewar Iraq intelligence.
That was not the first time Obama’s Justice Department has backed the Bush administration’s position on issues related to the CIA leak case.
June 25th, 2009 at 1:08 pmWow…this just in. I found this while taking my scheduled break here at work….enjoy
white-house-specia
Jeff Bovine Says:
Ah, so you’re one of them feeble elderly volunteer types that work at a front desk.
…and I suppose you are proud of yourself staying at home while living off the hard working taxpayers like me. There are worse things to be doing in life I suppose? You could be like dstankass and be giving BJ’s to B.O.
June 25th, 2009 at 1:36 pmRC and Washdog – Welcome, Duh-namic duo!!
How’s things going there in Wingnutistan??
June 25th, 2009 at 1:51 pmHealth insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released today by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
The report is part of multi-pronged assault today on the trustworthiness of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It comes at a time when the insurance industry is battling efforts to offer consumers a public alternative to private health plans.
At a hearing this afternoon, Rockefeller’s panel is slated to air allegations by a former industry insider that insurers have put profits before people’s health.
The report released this morning alleges that insurers have systematically underpaid for so-called out-of-network care. The issue has been brought to light in past litigation and investigations, including a probe by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo.
June 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pmpoor lil’ monkeys – so afraid that some of “the others” might get a banana from “your” pile…it’s just awful – I saw all about it once on Wild Kingdom.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pmThe inclusion of for profit corporations in the health care system and decision making structure is at odds with the goal of quality health care for all Americans.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:22 pm