McCain says the House is ‘almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.’
McCain says the House is ‘almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.’
During an appearance on a local radio station in Phoenix, AZ this morning, a caller asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) when Republican leaders were going to emerge in Congress to “wake the American people up” to the “cap-and-tax” bill. “Why can’t we get the House members and the Senate members to just walk out on what the Democrats are doing?” the caller asked. In response, McCain said that the GOP lawmakers — particularly his House colleagues — have to stay and fight, even though they are working under Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) authoritarian rule:
McCAIN: We’re fighting every single day. You don’t want to leave the arena; you want to stay in it and fight. And I guarantee you we are using every parliamentary possibility we have and I have great sympathy for my friends in the House because it’s almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.
Watch it:
For the House to be an autocracy, Pelosi would have appointed herself ruler and would possess unlimited power. Even if she expressed any desire for this outcome (something she hasn’t done), then American democracy, the electoral process, and the Constitution’s system of checks and balances would prevent that from happening.
Transcript:
CALLER: Hi Senator McCain. I’m a Republican Party precinct committeeman and what I want to know is when is the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate going to do something dramatic and lead and help the American people see what’s happening. For example, why can’t we get the House members and the Senate members to just walk out on what the Democrats are doing? They can do whatever they want. They’re going to cram this down our throats with cap-and-trade, cap-and-tax bill. We need to wake the American people up don’t you think? And where’s the leaders going to emerge in the Republican Party and help this happen?
HOST: Alright I don’t want to cut you short but time is short here. Senator.
McCAIN: I’ll be brief Dan. We’re fighting every single day. You don’t want to leave the arena; you want to stay in it and fight. And I guarantee you we are using every parliamentary possibility we have and I have great sympathy for my friends in the House because it’s almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.
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As opposed to Gingrich, Armey, Delay, Hastert (Delay II), etc. ???
June 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pmAnother Joe says…
Who’s ever heard of this John Caning guy?
Well, he will in a few minutes, anyway.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pmBy Ben Armbruster at 2:49 pm
FreeMarketLiberal Says:
June 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
You are getting quicker every thread!
June 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pmWalnut’s only response to any question is FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pmMcCain says the House is ‘almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.’
– - That’s, Ayatollah Pelosi to you, Johnny boy.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pmPoor wingnuts. They see visions of what they did to the democratic party under their leadership happening to them for a long, long, time. What goes around comes back around wingnuts.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pmJohn feels so tiny
June 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pmNo fun as minority
Freemarket Loser
McCain, fighting his way into obscurity one interview at a time.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm1. Flag the poser
2. Tell TP to ban by IP.
3. This jerkoff is most likely unemployed from his male pole dancing job due to being too ugly. Now, it’s trying to make money by posting every 10 seconds.
4. The Troll is even dumber than McCan’t.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pmI apologize for the repetition but this bears mentioning again
THINK PROGRESS
It may be in your best interest to finally BAN free market liberal.
I noticed that he is posting comments within one or two minutes of the threads going up.
It may give some readers the wrong impression, leading them to believe that he is a ringer posting here to make right wingers look bad.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pmUnfortunately, a lopsided predominance of TP’s posts lately are limited to, “what mean/stupid things republicans said about democrats/global warming/gays…etc. Dems are not interchangeable with progressives.
Even Jon Stewart is aware of Obama’s justice department shutting down transparency. Stewart referenced this bit of Obama Justice Department comedy gold on his program:
Okay, on any planet other than here, seemingly, this is absolute bullsh¡t on a number of levels. This is, imo, far more immediate than some petulant hairball republican spouting stupidity after stupidity, much less having every utterance of a defeated irrelevant opposition party documented ad nauseam.
It’s appearing that TP is less a progressive site and more a democratic apologist site.
Conyer’s wife just got busted for conspiracy:
I wonder if this had anything to do with Conyers’ impeachment decision?
If progressives wouldn’t stand for it from a republican, they sure as hell shouldn’t stand for it from a democrat, yet there aren’t any threads covering these alarming events. I was under the impression that this is a Progressive site; none of the above mentioned shenanigans are progressive ideals, nor are they likely to promote progressive advancement. These should be decried as surely as the numerous threads about Sanford.
The republicans are cockroaches, nothing more; but after the dems stonewalling of investigations and taking impeachment off the table, plus the revelations of torture while the dems did nothing, my affinity for them is long gone. I think, regardless of party, that anti-progressive idiocy and craven policy decisions should be highlighted far more often.
Preoccupation with the innate ability for republicans to shoot themselves in the foot only reduces space better devoted to republicans and the current majority party undermining progressive efforts.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pmHahahahaha, this actually gives me hope if McCain has to resort to whining about Pelosi.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pmI see McCain still has his issues dealing with women (see joke re Janet Reno being Chelsea Clinton’s father, abandoning his first wife, calling his current wife a c__t and basically offering her up for the wet T-shirt contest at Sturgis). Seeing these whiny little boys complaining about big bad Nancy does nothing to belie the GOP’s current image as a pack of maladjusted seven year olds.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm“because her stock in clean energy fuels is bound to skyrocket ;)” So, you hate the free market?
The caller must have been under a rock for the last year, or so. What the house and senate are doing is what they were elected to do, and the republicans are throwing a tantrum. How can they keep this up for the next 42 months?
June 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pm(ignore)#1,2,&7 this person is a nitwit.
June 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pmhanshiro the antlion Says:
Thank you.
Post of the day.
I think we have a nice precedent here to encourage actual discussion, regardless of Party.
After all, that’s what Progressives do.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pmIt’s 1984 and Gingrichism is alive and well. Guys like ‘FreeMarketLiberal’ monitor sites like this with the sole purpose of creating an argument.
Gingrichism says to be first with any comment, no matter how inane … make the other side defend, defend, defend.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pmWelcome to your daily dose of Republican crying & whining!
At this rate, just 5 months into Dem rule, by the time 2012 rolls around, the GOP will have run out of overheated epithets to throw at the Dems!
June 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm#14 (IGNORE) this person is only here to aggrevate
June 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pmtony and lido
McCain says, “We’re fighting every single day. You don’t want to leave the arena; you want to stay in it and fight.”
McCain, Limbaugh, and the Republican Party have stated that their ultimate goal is to see America and Obama fail.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pmFML is here – again – to sling poo and illustrate his unstable way of thinking. His comments are off topic, his logic is non-existant, his juvenile spit is terrible, but here he is.
FML obviously has no job or responsibilities. He has no demands on his time except to watch Fox and Friends for his daily round of stoopid. He has all the time in the world and how does he spend it? By soiling a once proud website. By creating reasons for those of us who have been posting of TP for years and years to turn away and let the trolls take over. Is that what Faiz and the TP folks want? I don’t think so. Yet he is here day after day, hour after hour.
Ban the FML – and all of his names, once and for all. The stains are becoming increasingly difficult to scrape off my shoes. It is annoying to continue debating an unarmed rival.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:02 pm“Why can’t we get the House members and the Senate members to just walk out on what the Democrats are doing?” the caller asked.
I’m seeing a trend here…..we’ll call that the “Mark Sanford” strategy!
Walk out. Run away. Get lost. Hide from reality.
Works for me.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:02 pmhey Ben, TP, et al, you’ve been around a while… you should remember the near-”autocracy” republican rule not too long ago…
is it against the tax-exempt rules to finish off this piece with an anecdote or 2 of those repug years of “tyranny”?
it would sure be fun…
i know the comments can supply it, but we can all be ASSURED of the correct sources and veracity of the info when TP post it….
you all know what i mean…
June 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pm22. dietrich Says: #14 (IGNORE) this person is only here to aggrevate tony and lido.
No, this person is here to dope-slap you if you keep posting crap like this.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pmhanshiro the antlion says, “After the dems stonewalling of investigations and taking impeachment off the table, plus the revelations of torture while the dems did nothing, my affinity for them is long gone.”
The only political alternative you have is to move to a different country. Canada, Germany, France, Italy, or Switerland would be my choices.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:11 pmIf that’s true then why does the House keep voting with the republicans?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pmIf Little Johnny McNumbNuts knows what’s good for him, he will STFU.
Next stop if he keeps whining –> Hanoi Hilton II
June 26th, 2009 at 3:14 pmdear grampy mclame,
June 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm“autocracy” didn’t seem to bother you in the era of tom delady and fatass danny hastert. now, please STFU
Angry man strikes again. Is it just me or does that asshat get uglier and angrier every day?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm28. delafield Says: The only political alternative you have is to move to a different country. Canada, Germany, France, Italy, or Switerland would be my choices.
Why did you omit the decision to stay and fight for progressive causes/options? The healthier the protests/outcries and opposition to corruption, the greater the possibility that the current course may be corrected.
The key is information to the voting populace, hence my disdain of first bush, now Obama’s secretive policy decisions and stonewalling.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pmSo your goal is to make liberals and or progressives look like cold heartless children who mock a soldiers service to the country?
Picking on what McCain says is one thing.
Mocking the Hanoi Hilton, a place of horror for thousands of US soldiers during Viet Nam and a place where John McCain spent years being tortured, is just beneath contempt.
We need to be better than this.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pmWhy can’t McSame do everyone a favor and just dry up and blow away? He adds nothing to the national discourse other than his bitterness.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
Another winner of an article brought to you by the Democratic and Soros funded CAP zombies.
Stop whining and pay your taxes like a man.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
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Nancy Pelosi salivating to get this bill passed because her stock in clean energy fuels is bound to skyrocket ;)
The progressives could care less.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm“Nancy Pelosi salivating to get this bill passed because her stock in clean energy fuels is bound to skyrocket ;)
The progressives could care less.”
all of a sudden republiclowns are worried about someone turning a profit?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pmOh geez — another whiner. Can these Republicans explain in detail, with specific examples, how Pelosi’s Congress is more unfair to the minority party than Gingrich’s was?
I thought not. They just spew this crap to appease their base and have something to put on fundraising letters, since they can’t really use their record for this purpose.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pmHow about this for autocracy, Grampy Insane?
Every time a Senator, Representative, President, Mayor etc., opens their mouths to speak, especially under the flag of public official, they should be under oath and know that their words can and will be used against them…maybe they might speak more wisely.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:29 pmAs one of our trolls might say:
McCain, exaggerate much.
His hyperbole would be equivalent to me saying “McCain is almost dead now” so why should we listen to him. And I’m not saying that, since I actually don’t think we should listen to him simply because he is wrong.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pmWomen on the order of Caribou Barbie are more understandable for Grampa McBomb.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pmCreepiest moment from the GOP convention last year was McCain chanting “fight! fight! fight! fight!” on and on. He’s always talking about “fighting” this or “fighting” that.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:34 pmpastcaring Says:
How about this for autocracy, Grampy Insane?
Every time a Senator, Representative, President, Mayor etc., opens their mouths to speak, especially under the flag of public official, they should be under oath and know that their words can and will be used against them…maybe they might speak more wisely.
credit RANDI RHODES…? … that’s where i first heard the idea…
i miss her… and keep forgetting to find her on the tubes here…
time to do that…
COME BACK TO XM RADIO, RANDI!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pmBut I thought the repubs liked the strong concentration of power at the top – for example, strong unitary executive, for example, the strong use of senate rules in Bush’s first term…….
June 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pmkay,
June 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pmrandi is on now:
http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st
Just once it would be interesting to have the repubs spouting slogans give examples and back up their “the sky is falling” rhetoric.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pmOh, I suppose Cheney, gave the Senate a feeling of warm fuzzies while fostering individual liberty ?
June 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pmGood thing we didn’t elect this whiner (and trigger happy warmonger), along with his professional victim Vice-whiner, to the most powerful position in the free world.
Better get used to losing election, my friend, because by alienating the Hispanic vote, you’ve just turned your party into the Dixiecrat party.
How are they doing these days? Thought so.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pmI was there myself. I can talk about it if I want to.
BTW, did you know that McNumbNuts was a POW? Did you know he got captured when he crashed his fifth military aircraft? Did you know that he “broke” under torture? Did you know that he’s a philandering, lying, crooked asshat?
GFY, WAYNEBRO
June 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pmOnce again the senile loser speaks out of his ass.
I’m afraid ‘that one’ is in need of medical attention. I hear MJ’s doctor is now unemployed.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pmthank you, bozo! but, i can’t get that link to work…
i’ll get it…
though brunch with bernie (rebroadcast thom hartmann) is great right now…
June 26th, 2009 at 3:40 pmJune 26th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Tom,
June 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pmCut BRO some slack. It’s got to be difficult being the Manners Nazi. Just look at how he jumped to defend a man who not only broke under TORTURE, but signed coerced confessions AGAINST his own men.
Katy – here’s a different link (different station):
http://www.am760.net/pages/RandiRhodes.html
June 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pmYou just catching on, John? Maybe you forgot about the whole “Impeachment is off the table.” thing.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:52 pm54.JmacSF Says:
O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter her enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all.
“The War Prayer,” a short story or prose poem by Mark Twain, is a scathing indictment of war, and particularly of blind patriotic and religious fervor as motivations for war.
….
He explains to them that he is there to speak aloud the second part of their prayer for victory, the part which they have implicitly wished for but have not spoken aloud themselves: the prayer for the suffering and destruction of their enemies. What follows is a grisly depiction of hardships inflicted on war-torn nations by their conquerors. The story ends on a pessimistic note: the messenger is ignored.
Be careful what you wish for, however nationalistically inculcated.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pmSo what would McCain call the house under fat bastard Dennis Hastert? You know the former speaker of the house who was under investigation by the FBI, who were seeking to determine his role in an ongoing public corruption probe into members of Congress or how the former speaker of the house Dennis Hastert used a federal earmark to turn a $1.5 million profit.
Old Johnny McCrazy shouldn’t cast stones when he lives in a glass house filled with republican criminals.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pmNo sense of humor.
June 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pmWar Prayer follows
http://www.ntua.gr/lurk/making/warprayer.html
June 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Old man Johnnie is still yelling at the clouds.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pmMapleStreet Says:
But I thought the repubs liked the strong concentration of power at the top – for example, strong unitary executive, for example, the strong use of senate rules in Bush’s first term…….
June 26th, 2009 at 4:00 pm““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
No silly, repubs only like that when they are in control of the government, when the democrats are in control it’s dangerous to the whole country, didn’t you know that?
hanshiro the antlion says, “Why did you omit the decision to stay and fight for progressive causes/options?”
The system is too corrupt. America murdered over one million men, women, and children in Iraq for a pack of lies about WMDs (Bush Jr.) and babies getting bayonetted in their incubators (Bush Sr.). And now we murder civilians in Pakistan and Afganistan.
We helped Israel build the largest “concentration camp” in the history of mankind. The Israelis steal Palestinian homes, land, employment, and way of life. Then they throw millions of these Palestinian men, women, and children in the Israeli military controlled concentration camp called Gaza Strip.
Who is the real “Evil Empire” today?
June 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pmAnd the Repukes want to give all their money to non tax paying churches so they can spread their brainwashing to more stupid people. Cut taxes on individuals and start taxing churches, that will fix the budget.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pmHey Johnny McNumbnutz, ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pmThank God this senile old fart didn’t become our 44th president. He is better suited for yelling “Get off my lawn” to all the kids in his gated community.
He truly reminds me of the senile old grandfather that a family tucks away in the other room during the holidays, you know the type, mumbling to himself incoherently as he swats at imaginary flies.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm*sigh* STFU, McMaverick.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pmWow, conservative old white dudes just really hate/fear a powerful woman, don’t they.
whine on Republicans, whine on….
June 26th, 2009 at 4:13 pmnope… that one didn’t work either, loki… but thanks!
June 26th, 2009 at 4:17 pmi need a whole computer update…
64. delafield Says: The system is too corrupt. America murdered over one million men, women, and children in Iraq for a pack of lies about WMDs (Bush Jr.) and babies getting bayonetted in their incubators (Bush Sr.). And now we murder civilians in Pakistan and Afganistan. Who is the real “Evil Empire” today?
I understand that we are not the good guys.
But as far as I’m concerned, giving in is not an option. As long as there is an ability to bring the truth to the fore, there’s a possibility to make substantive change.
Be informed and challenge conventional cultural mindsets. Plant a garden and turn off the MSM.
Watch “V for Vendetta.” ;-) and read more.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pmFor all who have not been keeping up: McSame lost, we won. We are the majority and we are doing what we said we were going to do. The minority must sit down and wait until they are called upon. Losers are on the bench. Wingnuts lost, for a reason.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:30 pmI know! I know! Because if you walk out it will be even more obvious that the Republican party is intellectually bankrupt, unnecessary, and useless. If they walk out, the next election will be between Democrats and third parties. The American people don’t need to “wake up”—they didn’t go into a trance and elect the Democrats that are now dominating. It’s the Republicans that need to wake up.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:41 pmWe should all remember that these are the people that gave the Democrats absolutely NOTHING for 6 long years. They shut the Democrats totally out of the legislative process. They also lost the last election and they lost badly. Now they are acting like they should be in charge. One has to ask why is that? Why should they be in charge, they lost. And why are the Democrats giving them anything? Why don’t the Democrats treat the Republics the same way they were treated?
June 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pmStratRat Says:
Ban the FML – and all of his names, once and for all. The stains are becoming increasingly difficult to scrape off my shoes. It is annoying to continue debating an unarmed rival.
What is annoying is that people even respond to it’s idiotic posts. Why can’t we all just ignore it and stop giving it the attention it so craves?
June 26th, 2009 at 4:55 pmLosing sucks, huh John?
June 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pmI know that by your vernacular, the closest you came to the Hanoi Hilton was your DVD collection. I know that.
And I know the people giving you the little “recommends” are as blind as you are bullshit.
I know that.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:24 pmAnd here’s something else I “know” scumbag.
I also know that if you had “been there” you’d know that ALL soldiers “crack under torture”. No one holds out.
No one.
Which further confirms what a rat you are for pretending to have “been there” and what a bunch of brain wasted fools are in here cheering you on with their little “recommends”.
I know that too.
June 26th, 2009 at 5:39 pmJohn McCain LOST.
How’da’ya like THOSE gumballs Grandpa?
June 26th, 2009 at 6:20 pm*
It still cracks me up how the right wingers view any woman in power as a “mean Mommy” who they are terrified of. Go Nancy!
June 26th, 2009 at 7:10 pmOnly when you comment.
June 26th, 2009 at 7:57 pmJohn McCain is a bitter old man who cannot accept the fact that a BLACK MAN is the President of these United States.
He is wasting the years he has left destroying whatever legacy was he is supposed to have built. He has not offered a single solid solution to any of the problems we face in this country. That is because he has no solutions. His goal is to try to undermine President Obama in any way he can.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pmDoes Mr. Dumb John remember Tom “The Hammer” Delay?????
June 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pmLet’s just circumvent the spirit of democracy with glorified rules crying.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:19 pmAw, shaddup, Grampy McFuddled.
You’re just plain embarrassing. Nancy Pelosi could kick yer wrinkly old ass into next week without even mussing up her hair.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:20 pmMcCain is right. Pelosi and all her cohorts are sinking the country fast. :-(
http://www.raptureforums.com
June 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pmYou’re just plain embarrassing. Nancy Pelosi could kick yer wrinkly old ass into next week without even mussing up her hair.
June 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pmOh, yeah…this coming from a guy from the party thats held complete control over the country for the past 8 years! Thank heavens this idiot didnt get elected as President! He would’ve wet his ‘Gramper Pampers’ in fear of actually having to behave Presidential instead of the raving loon he’s allowed to be as a Senator!
June 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pmThank you..
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