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	<title>Comments on: Census Bureau: We&#8217;re Working With Bachmann To &#8216;Explain The Rules Of The Census&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: seslikent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cheeky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheeky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that we shouldnt dissuade anyone from expressing his/her opinion, however, when someone expresses an opinion that is so cleary WRONG! why is it that the Big Media journalists covering the story dont call them out on it?  When Bachman is making these ridiculous comments, why is it that no journalist speaks up at that moment and calls her on it?  I think if journalists would start doing this then maybe the idiots of the world would begin to quiet down. Bachman is obviously not able to understand the necessity of the census...how is it that someone that stupid is allowed to hold public office?  Shouldnt there be a test for office holders, something to test their intelligence level?  We could call it the &#039;No Public Official Left Behind&#039; or the &#039;We dont want anyone as stupid as Michelle Bachman in Office&#039; test and the results should be made public BEFORE the elections!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that we shouldnt dissuade anyone from expressing his/her opinion, however, when someone expresses an opinion that is so cleary WRONG! why is it that the Big Media journalists covering the story dont call them out on it?  When Bachman is making these ridiculous comments, why is it that no journalist speaks up at that moment and calls her on it?  I think if journalists would start doing this then maybe the idiots of the world would begin to quiet down. Bachman is obviously not able to understand the necessity of the census&#8230;how is it that someone that stupid is allowed to hold public office?  Shouldnt there be a test for office holders, something to test their intelligence level?  We could call it the &#8216;No Public Official Left Behind&#8217; or the &#8216;We dont want anyone as stupid as Michelle Bachman in Office&#8217; test and the results should be made public BEFORE the elections!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706460', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explaining the &quot;rules of the census&quot; to bachmann is only slightly more difficult than explaining cold fusion to a rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explaining the &#8220;rules of the census&#8221; to bachmann is only slightly more difficult than explaining cold fusion to a rabbit.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706307', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: funk-E-net</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5706227</link>
		<dc:creator>funk-E-net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, privacy is not a concern when this information is not shared with anybody but the census bureau.  They use this information to help support our local communities with federal aid. This is not a proper way to thank them for the work they do. So THANK YOU census bureau.

Secondly, there are many options to pick on the racial background question and you are allowed to mark as many boxes as you would like. There is even an &quot;other&quot; option. 

Lastly, your religious views are not the census bureau&#039;s concern, as they are not asking a question pertaining to religious views on the 2010 census.  

Bachmann is simply being using her &quot;shock and awe&quot; tactics get attention and thoroughly confuse us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, privacy is not a concern when this information is not shared with anybody but the census bureau.  They use this information to help support our local communities with federal aid. This is not a proper way to thank them for the work they do. So THANK YOU census bureau.</p>
<p>Secondly, there are many options to pick on the racial background question and you are allowed to mark as many boxes as you would like. There is even an &#8220;other&#8221; option. </p>
<p>Lastly, your religious views are not the census bureau&#8217;s concern, as they are not asking a question pertaining to religious views on the 2010 census.  </p>
<p>Bachmann is simply being using her &#8220;shock and awe&#8221; tactics get attention and thoroughly confuse us all.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706227', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ITISME</title>
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		<dc:creator>ITISME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one needs to know my race or religion or salary but me.  I don&#039;t care who agrees with me - I don&#039;t follow politics and don&#039;t know anything about this care about this Bachmann person.  I just know I will not be providing this personal information on the 2010 Census - or on any other form I an requested to complete.  I will give my name and the name of anyone living in my house - that&#039;s all. 

Even my family does not know anything about my religious beliefs and would consider it rude to ask, so why would the government need to know.

Also, I have never condidered myself as a paticular race - I&#039;m just a mixture of other mixed generations with whitish skin, so what&#039;s the big deal about choosing a race - aren&#039;t we all equal?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one needs to know my race or religion or salary but me.  I don&#8217;t care who agrees with me &#8211; I don&#8217;t follow politics and don&#8217;t know anything about this care about this Bachmann person.  I just know I will not be providing this personal information on the 2010 Census &#8211; or on any other form I an requested to complete.  I will give my name and the name of anyone living in my house &#8211; that&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>Even my family does not know anything about my religious beliefs and would consider it rude to ask, so why would the government need to know.</p>
<p>Also, I have never condidered myself as a paticular race &#8211; I&#8217;m just a mixture of other mixed generations with whitish skin, so what&#8217;s the big deal about choosing a race &#8211; aren&#8217;t we all equal?????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705851', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark701</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman is a about 3 watts short of lit. She reminds me of a brunette Ann Coulter.

She&#039;s worried about a freaking census but didn&#039;t say anything when Bush/Cheney started illegally spying on 300,000,000 Americans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman is a about 3 watts short of lit. She reminds me of a brunette Ann Coulter.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s worried about a freaking census but didn&#8217;t say anything when Bush/Cheney started illegally spying on 300,000,000 Americans?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705727', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Henk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buffaloeric:&quot;I&#039;d be more than willing to bet she does not believe a word that she is saying, she is just saying it for effect &amp; to rile people up.&quot;

I&#039;ll take that bet. Bachmann is a fundamentalist fool. She truly believes her bullshit. While she was a state representative her focus was &quot;The Gay.&quot; In her view Gays had an agenda and her job was to stop it. There was a rally at the state Capitol once where Bachmann was caught hiding behind some bushes peering out at the &quot;gays&quot; gathered there. 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x4258101

In another incident she filed a report saying that she had been held hostage in the ladies room at a village hall in her district. She thought that two lesbian women were out to get her. This link lists some that I&#039;d forgotten. Its well worth reading.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-04/rep-michele-bachmannrsquos-wackiest-moments/2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buffaloeric:&#8221;I&#8217;d be more than willing to bet she does not believe a word that she is saying, she is just saying it for effect &amp; to rile people up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take that bet. Bachmann is a fundamentalist fool. She truly believes her bullshit. While she was a state representative her focus was &#8220;The Gay.&#8221; In her view Gays had an agenda and her job was to stop it. There was a rally at the state Capitol once where Bachmann was caught hiding behind some bushes peering out at the &#8220;gays&#8221; gathered there.<br />
<a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x4258101" rel="nofollow">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389&#215;4258101</a></p>
<p>In another incident she filed a report saying that she had been held hostage in the ladies room at a village hall in her district. She thought that two lesbian women were out to get her. This link lists some that I&#8217;d forgotten. Its well worth reading.<br />
<a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-04/rep-michele-bachmannrsquos-wackiest-moments/2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-04/rep-michele-bachmannrsquos-wackiest-moments/2/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705716', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5705606</link>
		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working with Bachman ?

Don&#039;t try to teach a pig to sing - it only annoys the pig.

And as the dude points out - there is a massive amount of information that the credit bureaus gather with almost no oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working with Bachman ?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try to teach a pig to sing &#8211; it only annoys the pig.</p>
<p>And as the dude points out &#8211; there is a massive amount of information that the credit bureaus gather with almost no oversight.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PFWoody488</title>
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		<dc:creator>PFWoody488</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Census Bureau:
Good luck. I suggest that you talk slow and don&#039;t use any big words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Census Bureau:<br />
Good luck. I suggest that you talk slow and don&#8217;t use any big words.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705513', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: qmslager</title>
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		<dc:creator>qmslager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry lack of edit button and accidentally pressing return during reorganization made my post much longer than necessary</description>
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		<title>By: qmslager</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>her arguments lack reason.  Your credit report currently says more about you as an individual than the census report ever has.  In fact, depending on the person you can identify, work, age, gender, religion, political party affiliation, economic status, dependents, as well as hundreds of other tidbits that you could not learn from the census, and I can go out and buy your credit report, I can&#039;t buy the census information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>her arguments lack reason.  Your credit report currently says more about you as an individual than the census report ever has.  In fact, depending on the person you can identify, work, age, gender, religion, political party affiliation, economic status, dependents, as well as hundreds of other tidbits that you could not learn from the census, and I can go out and buy your credit report, I can&#8217;t buy the census information<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705435', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: qmslager</title>
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		<dc:creator>qmslager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I haven&#039;t seen a denial that the census was used to enable roundup Japanese-Americans during WWII.

So it appears to be true that the census data can be abused.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From what a relative said who helped round up Japanese people, most of the information was provided by the immigration services at the time (I don&#039;t know the exact name of immigration services during that time period, as it has changed since).  They provided lists of immigrants and their families.  

From my readings specifically of a camp diary, a boy&#039;s father was accused of being a Japanese conspirator, when he was actually Chinese, and his mother was Japanese.  They were apprehended and shipped there due to his fathers business dealings and not his ancestry.  

Reports of that time also suggested that many immigrants failed to register with the census for fear of pogroms similar to Russia&#039;s, Japan&#039;s or China&#039;s (under Britain).  Many of the camp&#039;s residents were unregistered aliens making them victims of occurrence and not of the census.  Because of the Alien registration act, which was fundamentally apart from the census, officers were allowed to apprehend aliens who did not have registration cards, allowing them to gather  data separately from any census.  When the exclusions were set, forcing all Japanese Americans to flee, it did not require any personal information, as it only required the suggestion of Japanese blood, either by sight, organization involvement or neighbor complaints, which is why there were a few Chinese Americans and Korean Americans caught up in the internment camps.  The whole involvement of the census was rather cursory, as it was only partially utilized by the FBI to formulate their codex, with a majority of it developed through domestic wiretaps and spying, and the US Attorney at the time put the kabosh on that codex as he said it was illegal. 

For the most part the census has been a red herring in the case of Japanese internment because it has always been a source of fear mongering among hot bloods, racists and isolationists.  They&#039;ve used the fear to prevent people from being counted.  they did it to black people in the South during the Jim Crow era, they did it to Mexicans in Texas, and the Southwest states, they are trying to do it to the Hispanic immigrants now, and for some reason they are doing it to themselves.  They use the example of these internment camps to rouse suspicion in the unwary and uninformed, mostly because they have found that in the south there is an unequal split among the undereducated, with a greater majority of liberal sympathizers, and by keeping the whole group down they guarantee that the larger portion does not influence federal money, nor do they gain power.  It&#039;s a plan that has been used by several parties since the 1700&#039;s including the republicans and the democrats.  

The census could never be used to identify people anyways as the information is separated within the first few rounds of dissemination, and your name is theoretically no longer connected to your info.  At this stage, any complaint about the census is fundamentally retarded as your credit report holds more information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I haven&#8217;t seen a denial that the census was used to enable roundup Japanese-Americans during WWII.</p>
<p>So it appears to be true that the census data can be abused.</p></blockquote>
<p>From what a relative said who helped round up Japanese people, most of the information was provided by the immigration services at the time (I don&#8217;t know the exact name of immigration services during that time period, as it has changed since).  They provided lists of immigrants and their families.  </p>
<p>From my readings specifically of a camp diary, a boy&#8217;s father was accused of being a Japanese conspirator, when he was actually Chinese, and his mother was Japanese.  They were apprehended and shipped there due to his fathers business dealings and not his ancestry.  </p>
<p>Reports of that time also suggested that many immigrants failed to register with the census for fear of pogroms similar to Russia&#8217;s, Japan&#8217;s or China&#8217;s (under Britain).  Many of the camp&#8217;s residents were unregistered aliens making them victims of occurrence and not of the census.  Because of the Alien registration act, which was fundamentally apart from the census, officers were allowed to apprehend aliens who did not have registration cards, allowing them to gather  data separately from any census.  When the exclusions were set, forcing all Japanese Americans to flee, it did not require any personal information, as it only required the suggestion of Japanese blood, either by sight, organization involvement or neighbor complaints, which is why there were a few Chinese Americans and Korean Americans caught up in the internment camps.  The whole involvement of the census was rather cursory, as it was only partially utilized by the FBI to formulate their codex, with a majority of it developed through domestic wiretaps and spying, and the US Attorney at the time put the kabosh on that codex as he said it was illegal. </p>
<p>For the most part the census has been a red herring in the case of Japanese internment because it has always been a source of fear mongering among hot bloods, racists and isolationists.  They&#8217;ve used the fear to prevent people from being counted.  they did it to black people in the South during the Jim Crow era, they did it to Mexicans in Texas, and the Southwest states, they are trying to do it to the Hispanic immigrants now, and for some reason they are doing it to themselves.  They use the example of these internment camps to rouse suspicion in the unwary and uninformed, mostly because they have found that in the south there is an unequal split among the undereducated, with a greater majority of liberal sympathizers, and by keeping the whole group down they guarantee that the larger portion does not influence federal money, nor do they gain power.  It&#8217;s a plan that has been used by several parties since the 1700&#8217;s including the republicans and the democrats.  </p>
<p>The census could never be used to identify people anyways as the information is separated within the first few rounds of dissemination, and your name is theoretically no longer connected to your info.  At this stage, any complaint about the census is fundamentally retarded as your credit report holds more information<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705432', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: qmslager</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, in addition to your efforts, what is the answer? How do we get our politicians to actually make decisions based on their own judgement (the way is was meant to be) and not the herding we see within the parties?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Article V of the United States Constitution: Specifically &quot;on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution&quot;.  This requires a lot of work, but if that amendment imposed by individual states includes wording to the effect that congressmen shall be beholden to their own state for monetary replenishment, or remuneration including all insurance funds, you may find that congressmen will stop acting on the will of the party throughout the US, and only on the will of the party within the individual state, or more at the will of the state legislation.  Better yet if wages were set by state quorum you&#039;d definitely see politicians working for their districts needs more than the needs of the national party.

we both know this will never happen but one can dream...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, in addition to your efforts, what is the answer? How do we get our politicians to actually make decisions based on their own judgement (the way is was meant to be) and not the herding we see within the parties?</p></blockquote>
<p>Article V of the United States Constitution: Specifically &#8220;on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution&#8221;.  This requires a lot of work, but if that amendment imposed by individual states includes wording to the effect that congressmen shall be beholden to their own state for monetary replenishment, or remuneration including all insurance funds, you may find that congressmen will stop acting on the will of the party throughout the US, and only on the will of the party within the individual state, or more at the will of the state legislation.  Better yet if wages were set by state quorum you&#8217;d definitely see politicians working for their districts needs more than the needs of the national party.</p>
<p>we both know this will never happen but one can dream&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705376', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: paleotectonics</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5705322</link>
		<dc:creator>paleotectonics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the Cities. Shelley&#039;s district is centered in Stillwater, and only lightly touches on the outer ring suburbs. Her district is gerrymandered quite neatly, if I can post a map I&#039;ll do so. Her base in her district, and it is a pretty solid base, has two legs - wealthy retirees and those soon-to-be-retirees who commute to the Cities, and a shockingly large number of megachurchers, mostly followers of Prosperity Gospel and Pentecostals. FWIW, she is very representative of her district - that base, large enough to get her elected in the 2008&#039;s, even with a last minute, big-money push at the end by us after the McCarthy comments, LOOOVES her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the Cities. Shelley&#8217;s district is centered in Stillwater, and only lightly touches on the outer ring suburbs. Her district is gerrymandered quite neatly, if I can post a map I&#8217;ll do so. Her base in her district, and it is a pretty solid base, has two legs &#8211; wealthy retirees and those soon-to-be-retirees who commute to the Cities, and a shockingly large number of megachurchers, mostly followers of Prosperity Gospel and Pentecostals. FWIW, she is very representative of her district &#8211; that base, large enough to get her elected in the 2008&#8217;s, even with a last minute, big-money push at the end by us after the McCarthy comments, LOOOVES her.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705322', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gingerpye</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5705249</link>
		<dc:creator>gingerpye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really ought to be a law against an elected public official deliberately misleading the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really ought to be a law against an elected public official deliberately misleading the public.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705249', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Purple State</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5705048</link>
		<dc:creator>Purple State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yayhoo Says:

May you all rot in hell!&lt;/em&gt;

Dibs on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsu.edu/~alake/the_circles_of_hell.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Circle #2&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yayhoo Says:</p>
<p>May you all rot in hell!</em></p>
<p>Dibs on <a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~alake/the_circles_of_hell.htm" rel="nofollow">Circle #2</a>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705048', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: HighPlainsJoker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-3/#comment-5705026</link>
		<dc:creator>HighPlainsJoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am genuinely curious about the phrase, and concept of &quot;social engineering&quot;.  What is it, and how is the govt doing it?  Examples?  

As for being concerned about the govt running our lives, I have far more concern about Wall St, insurance companies, and health care non-govt organizations running, and ruining my life.  Who should I trust, the salaried govt person or the overpaid insurance company that decides my health care based on maximizing profits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am genuinely curious about the phrase, and concept of &#8220;social engineering&#8221;.  What is it, and how is the govt doing it?  Examples?  </p>
<p>As for being concerned about the govt running our lives, I have far more concern about Wall St, insurance companies, and health care non-govt organizations running, and ruining my life.  Who should I trust, the salaried govt person or the overpaid insurance company that decides my health care based on maximizing profits?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
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		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Census Bureau also said that they were working with Bachmann to find her a suitable resthome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Census Bureau also said that they were working with Bachmann to find her a suitable resthome.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5705016', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rightwing seems to have mixed opinions about the internment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII.  Bachmann is implying that it was a bad thing, while another Michelle (Malice/Malkin) wrote an entire book defending the racial profiling of Japanese-Americans after Pearl Harbor.  Maybe the two loonies--oops, I meant ladies--should have a debate on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rightwing seems to have mixed opinions about the internment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII.  Bachmann is implying that it was a bad thing, while another Michelle (Malice/Malkin) wrote an entire book defending the racial profiling of Japanese-Americans after Pearl Harbor.  Maybe the two loonies&#8211;oops, I meant ladies&#8211;should have a debate on this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5704966', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dasm</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/27/census-bachmann-mpr/comment-page-2/#comment-5704927</link>
		<dc:creator>dasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belittling Bachmann &amp; her racist, lying, uninformed, loser, idiot comments is like eating popcorn-- you want to stop, but you just can&#039;t, because it makes so much sense. And she certainly doesn&#039;t. 
Dear Lord, this woman is the worst, most ridiculous, most insane politician ever, and that is saying a lot. Turf her out.  She&#039;s a lying, racist, stupid jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belittling Bachmann &amp; her racist, lying, uninformed, loser, idiot comments is like eating popcorn&#8211; you want to stop, but you just can&#8217;t, because it makes so much sense. And she certainly doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Dear Lord, this woman is the worst, most ridiculous, most insane politician ever, and that is saying a lot. Turf her out.  She&#8217;s a lying, racist, stupid jerk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5704927', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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