Claire McCaskill Tweets That Clean Energy Bill Will ‘Unfairly Punish’ Missouri
Claire McCaskill Tweets That Clean Energy Bill Will ‘Unfairly Punish’ Missouri
Last night, the House of Representatives passed the American Clean Energy and Security Act, which will establish the first national standards for renewable energy, energy efficiency, and global warming pollution. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) responded on Twitter this morning, saying that the legislation’s cap on carbon pollution would “unfairly punish” Missouri’s families and businesses:
Missouri gets 85 percent of its electricity from coal and is home to the world’s largest coal company, Peabody Energy. Peabody has spent neatly $10 million lobbying against climate legislation since 2008. In reality, the cap-and-trade system the House passed fully protects states now dependent on coal, with multi-billion-dollar programs for advanced coal technology. “My focus in the shaping of the bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee was to keep electricity rates affordable and to enable utilities to continue using coal,” coal-district Rep. Rick Boucher (D-VA) explained during yesterday’s debate. “Both of these goals have been achieved.”
In his weekly video address, President Barack Obama congratulated “the House for passing this bill, and urged “the Senate to take this opportunity to come together and meet our obligations – to our constituents, to our children, to God’s creation, and to future generations.” He also asked senators like McCaskill not to be “prisoners of the past“:
Now my call to every Senator, as well as to every American, is this: We cannot be afraid of the future. And we must not be prisoners of the past. Don’t believe the misinformation out there that suggests there is somehow a contradiction between investing in clean energy and economic growth. It’s just not true.
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You know, our President is really good at speechifying, but if you really dissect what he actually SAYS, you can see that it’s mainly platitudes and clever wordplay.
He plays very loose with the facts.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:35 pmim Vaculik Says:
You know, our President is really good at speechifying, but if you really dissect what he actually SAYS, you can see that it’s mainly platitudes and clever wordplay.
He plays very loose with the facts.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:36 pm=========
Loose with what facts?
Folks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
If we want to get away from using coal, fine! Let’s invest in NUCLEAR power plants like the French!
June 27th, 2009 at 8:37 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Folks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
If we want to get away from using coal, fine! Let’s invest in NUCLEAR power plants like the French!
June 27th, 2009 at 8:37 pm========
Says who?
What the hell is a “prisoner of the past” anyway?
He tries to make it seem that the past, or indeed the present is BAD somehow. Like the most advanced industrialized country in the world is somehow “backward” for having developed safe, efficient, RELIABLE electric power that contributes to a standard of living that is the envy of the world.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pmranus69,
Easy. Look at the state of air pollution in other countries that use coal.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:41 pmMs. McCaskill is right. This bill will punish the businesses and citizens of her state. Some states are going to suffer greatly in fact. And for what?
Does anyone with a brain really think the massive Federal regulations spawned by this bill are going to reduce the temperature of the Globe even 1/2 of a degree?
C’mon!
June 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pmI for one WILL NOT APOLOGIZE for being a citizen of the greatest nation on earth.
We have EARNED the standard of living we enjoy and it is simply UN-AMERICAN for anyone to try and give it away! PArticularly to third-world countries ruled by tin-pot dictators who infest the halls of the U.N. and who are trying to make us PAY them.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pmThis global carbon trading scheme is the biggest scam to ever come along, at least in my lifetime.
The more I read about it the more I become incensed, not so much at the foreign elements involved, but rather at OUR OWN citizens and politicians who are selling us all DOWN THE RIVER.
Wake up, people!
June 27th, 2009 at 8:51 pmMissouri gets 85 percent of its electricity from coal and is home to the world’s largest coal company, Peabody Energy. Peabody has spent neatly $10 million lobbying against climate legislation since 2008. In reality, the cap-and-trade system the House passed fully protects states now dependent on coal, with multi-billion-dollar programs for advanced coal technology.
If only coal-producing communities weren’t paying with their very lives…
While this is a study of Appalachia, the comparison to other coal communities is inevitable.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
hanshiro the antlion,
So you fully support a switch to base-loaded Nuclear generation, right?
June 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pmDon’t get me wrong, folks. I can get behind reducing our dependence on coal.
The question is, what do we replace it with? Sorry, but solar, wind, etc., just won’t do the heavy lifting our economy REQUIRES.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pmFolks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
Would you like to provide valid documented facts to back up that assertion?
June 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pmReggie,
No. That’s YOUR homework assignment.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:08 pmReggie,
You can start by researching the clean air act and all the relevant regulations our coal-fired plants abide by.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:10 pmReggie,
Next, you might want to compare the pollution generated by coal-fired plants in other countries.
It isn’t that hard, now get to work!
June 27th, 2009 at 9:11 pmTim, you made the claim. The burden is on you to provide the appropriate information.
Post proof or retract.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:13 pmAccording to the American Lung Association, 24,000 people a year die prematurely because of pollution from coal-fired power plants. And every year 38,000 heart attacks, 12,000 hospital admissions and an additional 550,000 asthma attacks result from power plant pollution.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:17 pmTim Vaculik, it is true that you are a piece of excess baggage on Space Ship Earth.
I took a survey at the pond and 9 out of 10 dragonflies agree with me.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Folks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
If we want to get away from using coal, fine! Let’s invest in NUCLEAR power plants like the French!
false dichotomy if I ever saw one
June 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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I for one WILL NOT APOLOGIZE for being a citizen of the greatest nation on earth.
I apologize to the world for this ugly “American” imbecile. Sadly, many Americans think just like him, but they are no longer the majority — they just make a lot of noise.
We have EARNED the standard of living we enjoy and it is simply UN-AMERICAN for anyone to try and give it away! PArticularly to third-world countries ruled by tin-pot dictators who infest the halls of the U.N. and who are trying to make us PAY them.
June 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
You should be embarrassed to even write something like this, but you are an arrogant, cock-sure, consumerist pig, who would see the ability of all humans to exist on this planet destroyed because we “earned” a certain lifestyle.
You sicken me.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm11. Tim Vaculik Says: hanshiro the antlion, So you fully support a switch to base-loaded Nuclear generation, right?
You seek to corner me in a false dilemma fallacy. If I don’t approve of more use of coal, by your definition I must embrace Nuclear alternatives.
Witnessing your continued and petulant use of faulty bias and reasoning, it would be pointless to engage you in anything resembling a substantive discussion. Your disingenuous leap of logic tells me all I need to know…
I’d spend 99% of my time clarifying your purposeful misinterpretations…like the one above. Who needs that, or you?
June 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pmOrganisms like the Tim troll are the problem on this planet.
Their arrogance kills, quite literally, and yet they proclaim loudly from the rooftops that we are entitled to whatever our money can buy.
Tim, YOU are the reason this country is not respected. YOU are the reason we were attacked on 9/11.
Deal with it.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:24 pm19.Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says: I took a survey at the pond and 9 out of 10 dragonflies agree with me.
I hear the tenth dragonfly recanted…it’s unanimous.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:25 pmTim Vaculik Says: McCaskill is right.
You are so full of right-wing lying sh*t. You have no proof for anything you say, other than– I’m guessing– right-wing lying websites that invent everything they say. Go run away and let the rest of us informed people run the world. Scientists all over the world know that climate change is destructive & pervasive. You, on the other hand, prefer to listen to liars.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pm12.Tim Vaculik Says: The question is, what do we replace it with? Sorry, but solar, wind, etc., just won’t do the heavy lifting our economy REQUIRES.
Start with banning corporate energy lobbies who squelch alternative energy proposals and possibilities in order to monopolize the market. The auto industry has managed to set back auto emissions standards, safety and mileage by decades, for no good reason but to profit via oil corporations. Make no mistake, while people believe innovations will generate profits…
…interfering and derailing innovations, fomented by the old guard, will protect profits, but they don’t want the American people to know about that.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pmagain???
TP headline:
Claire McCaskill Tweets That Clean Energy Bill Will ‘Unfairly Punish’ Missouri
actually, no, she is hoping it DOESN’T…
maybe it would be more accurate to say:
Claire McCaskill Tweets That Clean Energy Bill MIGHT ‘Unfairly Punish’ Missouri
…
so, has claire mutated? is she another coat tail rider who should be mighty grateful to have gotten her votes with obama’s help?
kinda sounds that way…
June 27th, 2009 at 9:44 pmJune 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Hey vaculik, read Reggies post at 18. Would you think differently if your entire family were part of those stats? You need to wake the fck up.
June 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pmthis story made news yesterday, heard on WCIA:
Friday, Jun 26, 2009 @10:59am CST
(Mattoon) — Two power companies are backing out of the proposed FutureGen plant near Mattoon, but organizers say the clean coal project will be fine.
Power companies in Ohio and Georgia will be pulling their financial support from the multi-billion dollar plant.
Those companies say high costs and other energy projects convinced them to put their research dollars elsewhere.
This move comes just weeks after the Department of Energy restored its support for the clean coal power plant that will cost billions but could help the struggling southern Illinois job market and coal industry.
Nine power companies from across the globe remain committed to FutureGen.
also, googlenews search:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:02 pmhttp://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=FutureGen
Miner downplays exodus of 2 companies in FutureGen
Chicago Tribune – ?Jun 26, 2009?
But Vic Svec of St. Louis-based Peabody Energy says that company and others in the FutureGen Alliance will press on. He says the defections reflect more …
O/T sorry my fellow libs. I was watching Farrah`s documentry on MSNBC.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:02 pm\little timmy V compalins that President Obama “speechifies” without saying anything but doesn’t see his own reflection in that statement.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pmMy comment was sent before i was finished. I wanted to ask the religious wingnuts, why do you always say that people who die are in a better place?
June 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pmLook, we have to look into alternative fuels. People don”t want to invest in the future. European comunnites always invest in new ideas. We are stuck with the same old, same old.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:09 pmFolks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
NOW we do… or might… china is building “clean coal” plants…
but we had to fight like hell to get the coal cos to clean up
what little they DID…
and are STILL fighting them.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:19 pmDear Sen. Claire McCaskill,
There are many American businesses and families dependent on military spending.
Do you think that we should continue to wage war all over the world, killing hundreds of thousands/millions of defenseless people, just so that it doesn’t unfairly punish those who manufacture bombs, tanks, bullets, land mines, aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, destroyers, grenades, rifles, napalm, and attack helicopters?
June 27th, 2009 at 10:29 pmAs a human issue, why do we subscribe to things that leave our comments up for public consumption. Seems weird.
If you’re a pol, don’t tweet. If you want your stuff private, make it so.
I feel odd about the whole sharing thing.
transparency in gov’t, yes. all up in my bee’s wax? no thanks.
my two cents…carry on.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:33 pmRepublicans hate facts, Its hard to figure out what these wingnuts want. I believe that 98% of them are hypocrits and to ignorant to form their own opinions. They just repeat whatever limpdick,orielly,and hannity tell them. The other 2% are just wealthy and only care about tax breaks.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:37 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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sscncturn64 Says:
My comment was sent before i was finished. I wanted to ask the religious wingnuts, why do you always say that people who die are in a better place?
If that’s TRUE shouldn’t they WANT ABORTIONS?
What a moron.
June 27th, 2009 at 10:45 pmFraudbama’s lack of leadership is the problem. The climate bill will die in the Senate, as will meaningful health reform. Meanwhile Fraudbama’s Justice Department will continue to compare gay marriage to incest, while Fraudbama himself will issue Bush-style signing statements when it suits him.
Let’s admit the truth: we’ve been had.
June 27th, 2009 at 11:01 pmBoehner: Climate bill a ‘pile of s–t’… http://tinyurl.com/mc4caq … sheer madness. By the way, didn’t anyone read the 300 page climate bill prior to voting? I am getting sick and tired of congress voting on stuff without reading every word of the bill.
June 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pmUsing the word “punish” weakens her concern, and makes her sound like a Republican.
June 27th, 2009 at 11:16 pmSubstitite the word punish and its’ meaning for the concept of we all have to contribute to the betterment of all. With people as short-sighted as Dear Claire we don’t stand a chance. She sounds like an advertisement from the head of the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and not a U.S. Senator. Maybe she and John Conyers’ wife should have lunch and work out all the problems of this country and record the document on a bar napkin for posterity. I’d just make sure they didn’t dine and dash and leave the rest of us with the tab.
June 27th, 2009 at 11:41 pmWill you PLEASE just do the right damn thing??!! We The People are soooo damn TIRED of this crap. JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. ALL TOGETHER…. You came into the Senate because of US. BE A DAMN LIBERAL FOR ONCE OR GET THE F OUT. DON’T (if it already hasn’t happened yet) get corrupted by money & corporate power!!!!!! If you can’t take the pressure then get the F outta there & we will (hopefully) elect a true progressive… Look across the world, SENATOR… Which countries are doing well for the people, and why? DUH!!!!
June 27th, 2009 at 11:53 pmTim Vaculik Says:
You know, our President is really good at speechifying, but if you really dissect what he actually SAYS, you can see that it’s mainly platitudes and clever wordplay.
He plays very loose with the facts.
You try to be clever. You are steeley fun-nee.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:33 am“We have EARNED the standard of living we enjoy…”
Wait a minute, Tim: Who has earned what standard of living that who enjoys?
It’s late and I’m tired so I’ll keep it short: WTF? Are you drunk?
“…and it is simply UN-AMERICAN for anyone to try and give it away!”
Now there’s the true Republican psyche.
June 28th, 2009 at 1:07 amZooey Says:
Using the word “punish” weakens her concern, and makes her sound like a Republican.
June 27th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Using the word “unfairly” makes it sound like Missouri should be punished for some real reason. Hmmm…
June 28th, 2009 at 1:10 am.
THREE CHEERS FOR BIG COAL…
/snark
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June 28th, 2009 at 1:15 amJane,
Tim claims not to be a REPUBLICAN, but instead, a CONSERVATIVE!
Just thought I’d correct ya on that point.
(I guess not all Conservatives are Republicans)
Tim, am I following you well…?
June 28th, 2009 at 1:17 am.
I heard someone say that cigarettes don’t cause cancer…
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June 28th, 2009 at 1:20 am.
Dirty Cash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwdigYvkzOI
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June 28th, 2009 at 1:24 amMax, thanks for the correction, I’ll accept Tim’s claim to be a conservative. I wouldn’t want to affiliate myself with the current Republics either. Plus, I’m registered Independent and am not connected at the spine to any or all Democrats.
Have a good night!
June 28th, 2009 at 1:32 am.
G.M. and Chrysler stuck with combustion engines for a bit too long…
… How’d that work for them?
Like Tim, narrowly focused and blind to the possibilities.
Had, HAD GM and Chrysler’s R&D pushed for alternate engine types, maybe, just MAYBE they wouldn’t be in the pickle they find themselves in today.
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June 28th, 2009 at 1:36 amJane:
I think think in Tim’s case conservative is code word for devoted follower of Ron Paul.
June 28th, 2009 at 1:36 amAh, thank you, Reggie, that’s a help.
Goodnight!
June 28th, 2009 at 1:38 amGood night Jane
June 28th, 2009 at 1:40 amNight Jane
June 28th, 2009 at 1:48 am.
Fat elephant in room said:
Over 100 State Bar Complaints Filed This Week Against Torture Lawyer William Haynes
http://www.nlgsf.org/news/view.php?id=113
June 26, 2009
Hundreds More Expected Demanding Accountability From Cal Bar
June 28th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Reggie Says:
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Jane:
I think think in Tim’s case conservative is code word for devoted follower of Ron Paul.
Says the olbyloon.
June 28th, 2009 at 2:11 amSays the olbyloon.
RLF, what’s that about?
June 28th, 2009 at 2:39 amI think it may be possible that you have me confused with another blogger.
I respectfully ask you to please take a few minutes and look at what I have posted at Think Progress and then come back and make that statement again if you find any evidence to support your hypothesis, or if none can be found be man enough to admit it and apologize.
Republicans Love Facts Says:
When you get back to Blogmocracy, tell Trajan to check his mail.
June 28th, 2009 at 2:50 am.
Dear Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO),
In the spirit of recognizing Michael Jackson the other day…
… Earth Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOnL5c8LMqM
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June 28th, 2009 at 2:54 amI believe Missouri is already punished unfairly by its sports teams.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:06 amanother post with a raving nutcase posting first. Can TP ban tim and his ilk. I’m getting REALLY put off by them just parroting their dear leader’s “facts”. I can’t even make a point about this article because it feels dirty, like the fish I can’t eat.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:58 amClaire McCaskill: Twit.
There, fixed it.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:30 am‘You know, our President is really good at speechifying, but if you really dissect what he actually SAYS, you can see that it’s mainly platitudes and clever wordplay.
He plays very loose with the facts.’
Well, even if I agreed with that vacuous tripe, he has had 8 years to learn from the undisputed king of speciousness, Gee Dumbya.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:20 am‘What the hell is a “prisoner of the past” anyway?
He tries to make it seem that the past, or indeed the present is BAD somehow. Like the most advanced industrialized country in the world is somehow “backward” for having developed safe, efficient, RELIABLE electric power that contributes to a standard of living that is the envy of the world.’
Oh I don’t know; how about someone who insists the US has no environmental issues as a result of irresponsibility to the planet’s ecosystems, claims to be the ‘envy of the world’ for denying the effects of it’s unregulated energy policies on climate change, or produces the world’s largest volumes of pollutants, or whose standard of living increasingly separates the uber-wealthy from the working poor?
That person would be a prisoner of the past; continually looking backward to the halcyon days of a bygone era, while the rest of the world lives in reality and looks to a better future.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:25 am‘Ms. McCaskill is right. This bill will punish the businesses and citizens of her state. Some states are going to suffer greatly in fact. And for what?’
Only something as useless as a more environmentally sound future; who would EVER want that?
June 28th, 2009 at 8:26 am‘This global carbon trading scheme is the biggest scam to ever come along, at least in my lifetime.’
Really? Where have you been while you people were greeted as liberators in Iraq?
June 28th, 2009 at 8:27 amIn their desire to be re-elected (and not irritate their major contributors), many of our Senators and Representatives will choose to sacrifice our future by opposing this legislation.
Just for grins, look up “global warming” on your computer and read some of the articles.
Once we cross that critical threshold, there is no going back. Many of you will continue to believe what Limpbaugh and Boehner say. Keep your heads in the sand and ignore the facts.
As a baby boomer, I and everyone in my generation have the responsibility to stop this dangerous path we selected of instant gratification and profit.
Wake up damn it before it’s too late.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:57 amI say back the President. We now have a bill that will most likely become law. First of its kind. I do not believe it is possible to suddenly change over to clean energy. I think the conservatives should be thankful that the president obviously has this point of view in light of what they have said about his energy policy ideas. It is certainly a moderate approach. I do believe that this is a good first step when no real steps have been made since the catalytic converter. Clearly this bill is set up so that we can make the proper adjustments as time passes.
If we attack the President now simply because this bill is a not the dramatic enough change we thought we would get, he stands to lose popularity, and thus effectiveness in making the changes that we elected him to make in this and on other issues. Republicans will miss no opportunity to take up the void and suddenly Democrats are losing seats during the midterms, the bill gets stripped and all of it gets blamed on President Obama’s ineffective leadership.
When our previous Republican president made dumb moves, stupid comments, and, generally showed his infantile understanding of virtually any issue, the conservatives stuck right by him. If we want change, we should do the same for President Obama. I believe the President knows what he was elected to do and I believe his ability to do it depends on our support.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:21 amPaul Krugman made a good point on ABC today.
He said that Those who think Free Markets are the Answer to everything (ie. Conservatives)…are now claiming that using Market Forces ( giving a small incentive to take greenhouse gases in to account) will cause the Economy to Fall Apart.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:55 amrepuggish.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:09 amSo McCaskill would rather we all die from the affects of global warming than to have her state lose the coal industry. My Ms. McCaskill, how selfish of you.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:38 amTim Vaculik Says:
Folks, we have the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the WORLD.
If we want to get away from using coal, fine! Let’s invest in NUCLEAR power plants like the French!
Perhaps you can tell us what you have against clean energy like wind and solar. I’m a little confused as to why you are so wedded to the dirtiest forms of energy possible.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:43 amTim Vaculik Says:
Reggie,
No. That’s YOUR homework assignment.
Typical right wing troll. You make a ridiculous statement that you can’t back up with facts and then it’s up to us to prove you wrong.
Sorry cupcake, that’s not how it works in the blogging world. If you make a statement it’s up to you to prove it’s fact. It is not up to others to prove you wrong.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:46 amBilbo Hussein Baggins,
Honestly, I don’t have anything against new technologies. It’s just that I’m a realist and I understand the energy industry in this country.
There is simply no way wind, solar, biomass, etc. can produce reliable energy in sufficient quantities to maintain our economy.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:46 amBilbo Hussein Baggins,
Just a question: are you old enough to remember the global COOLING scare? I am and the current hysteria has exactly the same trappings.
Further, have you done any reading with respect to the effect the Sun has on our climate?
Have you read the well-researched book “Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 10,000 Years” ?
June 28th, 2009 at 11:48 amBilbo Hussein Baggins,
Are you aware of the percentage of CO2 in our atmosphere? It’s about 2.5%
Are you aware of the amount of CO2 that we add to that 2.5%? About .11 percent
June 28th, 2009 at 11:50 amAaronQ of Maine,
Since you are so F#@*ing smart, dipstick, please tell me who my “dear leader” is.
If you can’t stand the heat GET OUT of the Kitchen.
June 28th, 2009 at 11:57 amReggie,
Ron Paul is a Libertarian. I’m not a libertarian.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThis is for Tim Vaculik in answer to #3:
Actually what we have, Tim, are coal fired electric plants that have never stopped pouring billions of tons of CO2 into the air. They don’t have the technology to stop it. They claim that coal is “clean” because they capture the particulates, or ash, in smoke stack scrubbers before the hot smoke is released. They take that ash and pour it into water pools called impoundments that they dig on whatever land is available, sometimes near streams so that the polluting ash can seep into the water, and sometimes the ash dams burst causing an ecological catastrophe and either injuring or endangering human life. Many of these dams have not been inspected in 20 years.
The coal fired smoke that is still released into the atmosphere has the ash removed so that it is invisible and appears to be “clean” when in reality not one pound of CO2 is removed. “Clean coal” is a lie.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pmTim is an energy company flunky, bought and paid for. Who cares what you think.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pmI hope animal and plant life isn’t unfairly punished and decimated on planet Earth..
June 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pmHere in the state of Mizzery coal interests are very strong. Clair is just doing her job in protecting their interests over those of the people she represents.
When she won her seat in the senate, she ran against Jim Talent who was nothing more than a stooge for Bush. She is better, but I hope there is a better choice the next time she runs so I can vote for them.
June 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pmUnited states is behind Germany, Czech republic, and South Africa in terms of air pollution and they all use coal. Those are only three examples that have been cited in the news stories lately. South Africa is contemplating a change to nuclear or ocean generation but still produces less air pollution per mile, per capita and per GDP than america, Germany Chancellor discussed the benefits of switching to a cleaner burning fuel 10 years ago well before US discussed it, and the Czechs model has been used by the Kyoto treaty to represent real progress in cleaner fuel consumption and energy production
June 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pmIt seems that the Missouri Senator is more closely tied to the energy companies than she is her own people. She fought previous legislation to help encourage changes to cleaner burning fuels, she cut legislation from bills which provided money for newer more efficient energy in Missouri that did not supply current companies with any subsidies and she has received a good portion of her money from the energy companies. Hand in the cookie jar syndrome if you ask me.
June 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pmJust for grins, look up “global warming” on your computer and read some of the articles.
Once we cross that critical threshold, there is no going back. Many of you will continue to believe what Limpbaugh and Boehner say. Keep your heads in the sand and ignore the facts.
As a baby boomer, I and everyone in my generation have the responsibility to stop this dangerous path we selected of instant gratification and profit.
Wake up damn it before it’s too late.
Strange how ALL the planets in our solar system have heated up almost exactly the same amount. Just imagine, this is probably due to solar maximums, which if taken into account, blows the global warming theory out of the water! C02 content may be going up, but we are actually starting a cooling period on lil ol earth. If anyone says global warming is man made, perhaps they should stop driving their big SUV`s on the other 8 planets!
June 28th, 2009 at 6:16 pmStrange how ALL the planets in our solar system have heated up almost exactly the same amount. Just imagine, this is probably due to solar maximums, which if taken into account, blows the global warming theory out of the water! C02 content may be going up, but we are actually starting a cooling period on lil ol earth. If anyone says global warming is man made, perhaps they should stop driving their big SUV`s on the other 8 planets!
OOPS! This was my part of the post lol!
June 28th, 2009 at 6:19 pmI think it is funny. These dems are so hypnotized by Obama that they can’t look past his charisma. I am just sitting back and watching all their “plans” from the campaign trail evaporate. Right now we are in magical land with the unemployment rate past what he promised the stimulus would fix. He is intruding on business, medical insurance (because he is a politician, they know what health care we need. LOL) and now how much we will pay for electricity. I mean the Dems did such a wonderful job with California…oops, that’s right they screwed it up pretty bad. This will end up affecting the poorest people in our country. After that, you watch, our taxes will be raised again to help everyone else pay their electric bills. Redistribution of wealth.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pmClaire lacks the intelligence to understand the wisdom of saving our planet. In her arrested little mind there exists the notion that it is better to support a few coal-mining interests- you know, wealthy exploiters who do as little as possible to ensure safety, fight regulations, etc.- than to ensure we even HAVE a future. The miners will find other jobs, perhaps in green industries, so it is essentially for a select few that she would throw all of us under the bus. C*nt.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:09 pmqmslager wrote:
It seems that the Missouri Senator is more closely tied to the energy companies than she is her own people. She fought previous legislation to help encourage changes to cleaner burning fuels, she cut legislation from bills which provided money for newer more efficient energy in Missouri that did not supply current companies with any subsidies and she has received a good portion of her money from the energy companies. Hand in the cookie jar syndrome if you ask me.
I guess those coal companies have robots working for them? The economies of the town in Missouri probably have nothing to do with coal. Wake up! She is looking after her constituency! You are putting your values on her and the people she is fighting for.
Sad really. Freedom is dying in this country.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pmbarrelhse, you should be ashamed. Your lack of intelligence to use such language is disturbing. Your argument is probably the best since you can use such clean words. GED educated?
June 28th, 2009 at 7:17 pmwelder Says:
Have you actually read those reports, warming is only occurring on 6-9 planets, planetoids, plutons and major asteroids. Cooling is taking place on another 8. And the other 80 don’t seem to be impacted at all. As for the regular planets Uranus isn’t warming it’s cooling, I have no idea why. Venus, not warming and it’s closer to the Sun. Mars, warming, but it’s spin which impacts warming/cooling trends is going erratic. Erratic spin will increase or decrease temp according to our understanding of it. Pluto- we only have two days of data for pluto something like 14 years apart. So we’re not even sure if we got Pluto one time in summer and the other time in winter. We do know that Neptune is warming but we also know neptune is entering into what we on earth would call summer. It will continue to warm for another 30 or forty years until it hits Autumn. Jupiter isn’t really impacted by the sun to begin with and gets most of its heat internally, so any trend can be easily discounted as strictly Jupiters trend. Solar activity still impacts it but here’s where the argument regarding this makes people who cite “warming trends on planets outside of our own” as factors against anthropogenic causes. The sun only impacts it when there is a greater amount of surface visible greenhouse gas like CO2 or methane, in other words, increased greenhouse gases impact temperature, which is the argument climate change people here on earth keep saying. It is so unlike the rest of the solar bodies that it’s hard to determine whether a cooling trend will be seen on both us and Jupiter anyways or if we really matter in its trends. Triton’s warming but it is approaching an extreme summer at the lowest southern it gets, which makes it have higher heat. And the studies that discuss solar changes all point out over the last thirty years we should have been cooling or at least staying at a norm since solar activity has not changed, instead we were warming. It’s true we did have a cooling year this year but we are also at a solar minimum. think of how it will feel when we hit that actual maximum in 2 years, which I believe NASA says will produce a solar storm (my predictions of 35 named storms is still standing). But not to worry increased storms are a good thing as increased storm fronts decrease CO2. It will help us deplete some of the excess.
As for the rest of the global warming debate: who knows? All I know is that I am tired of hearing the debate about CO2 and would like to discuss other pollution problems that impact us more. For instance, in an area that has 4 times the amount of fatal cancers, childhood autism, and infant mortality we have ten times the amount of lethal products in our air than anywhere else, beyond the acceptable or perceived acceptable standard. Climate debate is just a way to get out of discussing the bigger question of pollution
June 29th, 2009 at 1:47 amCoal Fired Power Plants are unfairly punishing me and my family.
The thing these pollution mongers don’t stop to think about is how their desire for MORE, their desire to do less to get it, their desire to have ALL of the latest and greatest and fastest and most powerful is killing us. They believe it is their RIGHT to have these thing. They believe that their right to have supersedes my right to health.
Don’t live in the now – live in the longg term
June 29th, 2009 at 9:54 amI believe the GOP is very very guilty of playing with the fact because they only see what they want too.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:20 amWell maybe it is time for Missouri to clean up it’s act if what she says is ‘true’(we all know congress bends the facts when ‘their’ state might be effected).
WE are ALL in this together so get the “bleep” over it. This bill is for ALL states not just a select few.
How many on this site have a solar powered water heater, and if you don’t why not?
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Energy guzzler. Water heating is the second largest energy user in the average home. Only central air conditioning uses more energy.
History. Miami had 60,000 solar water heaters during the 1940s. What happened? Really cheap electricity and utility company “All-Electric Living” promotions. Some utility companies gave away electric water heaters, just to get homeowners to switch from natural gas.
Carbon bigfoot. Everyone is concerned about their carbon “footprint” these days. Well, a home water heater’s carbon footprint is a whopper.
How big, you ask? Using electricity from an electric utility powerplant to heat 80 gallons of water from 72°F to 140°F each day for one year sends almost four tons of carbon dioxide[1] emissions into Earth’s atmosphere. Yes, really.
How many have a solar AC and if not, why not?
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July 1st, 2009 at 11:17 pm