Last week, the Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney (who is also a former member of ThinkProgress) found himself in the center of controversy after President Obama called on him at a press conference. One of the harshest pieces came from the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank, who called Pitney a “planted questioner.” Today the two faced off on Howie Kurtz’s “Reliable Sources” segment on CNN. Pitney called some of Milbank’s past reporting “pathetic,” and Milbank claimed that Nico had “worked in collusion with an administration.” Watch it:
The discussion was evidently so heated that Milbank called him a “dick” at the end of the segment, as Pitney writes on Huffington Post:
The only thing that surprised me was when Dana turned to me after our initial sparring and called me a “dick” in a whispered tone (the specific phrase was, I believe, “You’re such a dick”). Howie Kurtz wrote on Twitter that he didn’t hear it, which is understandable — he was doing the lead-in for the next part of the segment on the ABC White House special. But it happened (I urge Howie to watch the video of the panel during the ABC intro) and it was frankly pretty odd.
I’m confused. Didn’t Bush conduct all of his briefings with a large percentage of pre-arranged soft ball questions?
June 28th, 2009 at 3:19 pmGo, Nico, Go! You know you’re doing something right when you drive the media establishment NUTS. And you’re right. They are jealous.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm.
I see two men arguing…
… One is a blogger.
… The other is pundit posing as a journalist who prefers to pander to radical party members and shy’s away from facts.
.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:29 pmWAAAAY off topic, but worth it!
USA-2 Brasil-NIL
June 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pmIf the USA can win this…..WOW
That was at Half Time btw.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIsn’t Milbank one of Keith O’s favorites?
June 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pmAlso, why hasn’t Joe Scarboro ever been a Worst Person in the World?
Absolutely,they are jealous.But remember folks this is not the 1st time,remember the very 1st presser when Obama called on Sam Stein(HufPo) politico grumbled.The Trad media is trying to tear down the HufPo & other Internet news providers.The public is turning away from the print -enablers(WaPo,NY-Times etc).I refused to reward NyTimes or Wapo with my readership,look elsewhere for news folks.With the Internet our sources are massive & varied.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIt wasn’t that long ago when Katharine Graham ruled the roost at the Post and it was a GREAT NEWSpaper with great reporters–now we see a dufferent intellectual horizon in its reporting and reporters.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pmDOES NOONE IN THE BELTWAY REMEMBER EFFIN’ JEFF GANNON?!?!?!?!!
June 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pmhahahahaha……and the moral highground is from the Moonie Times?
that’s hysterical. thanks for the comedy routine.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pmThis is non-news and the mainstream media (i.e., print and cable) is just going nuts over it. Yawn.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pmWAPO has been circling the drain for awhile now. With Dan Froomkin being canned, its my opinioin that they are no better than the Moonie owned Washington Times. Really sad.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pmMilbank, a former olbermann sock puppet, really handed pitney his ass!
June 28th, 2009 at 3:42 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Milbank, a former olbermann sock puppet
You’re the expert on sock-puppets, how many of yours have banned banned here so far?
June 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pmSince Nico Pitney doesn’t work for a propaganda mill like Fox News that caters to you ditto heads it doesn’t really matter what you think. It is amusing that you believe Milbank won that debate though. You 20 percenters sure are stoopid.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:56 pm>>It wasn’t that long ago when Katharine Graham ruled the roost at the Post and it was a GREAT NEWSpaper with great reporters–now we see a dufferent intellectual horizon in its reporting and reporters.<<
June 28th, 2009 at 4:01 pmFairly good assumption that Katherine Graham was a neocon stooge. See Operation Mockingbird. She stepped in right where husband Phil left off.
Milbank took a quote by President Obama out of context and what he said about the him was inaccurate. MSNBC was waiting for a correction and Milbank refused to give it and decided to leave rather than admit he was WRONG. He obviously has a pattern of misinterpretation and jumping to inaccurate conclusions. That being said, I hope President Obama calls on Nico first every time and we can watch ditto heads explode.
June 28th, 2009 at 4:01 pmJim Wolf359 Says:
That was at Half Time btw.
Brazil just scored at 72:??. In any case, the rise of USA soccer can only mean one thing: We are offically a washed up, has-been, third world country…
June 28th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI don’t care if Pitney is a dick or not, I care about his reporting, which is top-notch. Dana Milbank, on the other hand, is a crappy journalist, and a weenie. And I’d rather be a dick than a weenie….
June 28th, 2009 at 4:06 pmRepublicans love facts just about as much as they value families….
June 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pmBobwurst Says:
Yeah, it was a heckuva goal by Brazil. Howard couldn’t do much about it.
June 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pmShame that, joining the rest of the world. Heh.
Well gee, kids. Maybe next time such a situation comes up, President Obama should ask, “Is anyone here getting information from Iranians that they would like to share?”
June 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pmim Wolf359 Says:
Bobwurst Says:
Yeah, it was a heckuva goal by Brazil. Howard couldn’t do much about it.
Shame that, joining the rest of the world. Heh.
Yup. Catch World Cup Fever!
June 28th, 2009 at 4:30 pmAnd the women in your life are grateful too.
June 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pmOUR MAN AILES. BITE ME MILBANK.
June 28th, 2009 at 4:35 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Bobwurst Says:
And I’d rather be a dick than a weenie….
And the women in your life are grateful too.
Just one, It’s not like I “hike the trail” or anything like that :)
June 28th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWhen you get these MSM types all riled up you know your doing something right.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pmDidn’t Milbank get canned from MSNBC a couple of years ago for false reporting or something?
June 28th, 2009 at 5:08 pmkasinca, it was last year.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
First, full disclosure I’m a journalist for a mainstream wire service here in DC _ OK so with that let’s suppose that Nico was in full collusion with the Obama administration and was a planted questioner.
Even if that was true, Nico’s question was GREAT: “Under which conditions would you accept the election of Ahmadinejad, and if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there isn’t that a betrayal of what the demonstrators there are working for?”
And whether Obama knew or didn’t know the question beforehand his response was in line and consistent with what he has said before of how the US should be dealing with any Iranian leader.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pmI think that “whines” is a pretty good summation of Milbank’s whole life. He reminds me of the kid in school who would hide in the bathroom stalls in the hope of overhearing stuff he could tattle about. Then never quite figured out why someone kicked the crap out of him every few days.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pm‘WAAAAY off topic, but worth it!
USA-2 Brasil-NIL
If the USA can win this…..WOW’
Sorry bro; Brazil 3 USA 2
A stunning comeback orchestrated by Brazil’s first goal 40 seconds into the 2nd half; they even had a goal that wasn’t counted, so the final should have been 4-2.
The US has nothing to be ashamed of, they played far over expectations, but you can never count out a powerhouse like Brazil, they absolutely dominated the 2nd half.
A great game for the final.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pmMilbank is a tool; enough said.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pmjrfunkenstein says:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:47 pmIt was a great for the final. US Soccer may have turned a corner in this tournament. You’re right about Brazil in the 2nd half. Howard was really under seige in that half. USA needs to learn how to put 2 halves together and finish. But, overall, I’ll take it.
Dana Milbank wins the news cycle with his truthiness. He knows the righties love this stuff, so he’s going to jump to conclusions about things just for the pageviews. What’s truly ridiculous is that he’s so pompously defensive about it afterwards. It’s good practice for journalists to admit they screw up every so often, Dana. C’mon and try it.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:03 pmThe WaPo is now a neo-con rag. It cheered on the Bush/Cheney catastrophe in Iraq. Hiatt is going after the FoxNews crowd.
It saddens me. The WaPo used to be a great paper many years ago.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:16 pmToo true.
US soccer fans should be getting tired of looking for “respect” out of games like this. You get respect when you consistently WIN games like this.
Still, the whole team played well, except for the subs Klestjan and Bornstein, who both came on just after Brazil tied it and added nothing in terms of the pace and energy that Bradley was looking for at that point.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:19 pmI don’t know… I thought they did that pretty well on Wednesday against Spain. But you’re right; now they have to learn to do it in a FINAL.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:21 pmThere will be many exchanges like this to see which liberal news outlet becomes Obamas “official news outlet” based in the White House which all news will be released by and exactly as they want the rest of the MSM to report it. There will be no argument or speculation as to what Obama or his officials meant on any subject. The stories will be written for the press and published exactly as written….PERIOD! As you can clearly see “try outs” are under way starting with ABC. Two questions remain, who will get the job and what will it be called once the federal government has taken it over.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:33 pmhaha, they love each other!
Some thoughts on the issue: First of all, who cares. Second, as “Vincennes” points out (really dude, too soon), whether or not the question was prearranged or whatever, the substance of the question was no softball. More like a friggin’ bowling ball. Third, Nico does in fact sound like a “dick”. And fourth, Milbank looks like he’s about to explode for merely having to sit next to this whippersnapper. He will be the new David Broder.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:42 pmTwo questions remain, who will get the job and what will it be called once the federal government has taken it over.
It certainly won’t be FOX NEWS because they are a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Party.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:45 pmAmanda carpenter the fox news right wingette….complaining about democratic favoritism toward a left leaning reporter….considering fox news used to get GOP talking points directly from the white house each day for 8 years under the rove/cheney/bush administration. And that shieking voice. Pathetic hypocrite.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:48 pmKid Charlemagne Says:
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Isn’t Milbank one of Keith O’s favorites?
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He used to be but he’s more or less been blacklisted by Olberman – I can’t remember the cause, but he’s no longer invited to the program.
June 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pmHey Dana Milbank, if you weren’t SUCH A SUCK ASS for the Bush administration you may have a leg to stand on here. Stop your damn whinning chump!!!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 6:57 pmThe bloggers have been relentlessly ridiculed by the old guard. The important thing is, the body of work of these Cheetos-eating, underwear prancing bloggers has not only ridiculed the old guard itself by revolutionizing politics and how we evaluate candidates, it’s ignited a foul-mouthed frenzy from the likes of Milbank.
Shape up or ship out. You outdated prunes are obsessed with the reemergence of the GOP when we’re trying to pull this country out of a rut.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:05 pmOf course the MsM is whining. They are being eclipsed by bloggers.
Nico represents the shift from traditional, conservative media to progressive Internet media. Nico represents massive losses in revenue and reputation.
Dana lashed out because he knows he is on the losing side of the media revolution and he is frustrated by how helpless he and his establishment are.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:07 pmThat’s about the crux of it, Megaloptera McWars. Bloggers have pulled ahead of beat writers.
The instant access to the net has surpassed the produced media. And the concept of “news” being packaged for profit has pretty much ticked off everybody.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:15 pmBush and Cheney, with the help of imbedded journalists from every “Main Stream Media” outlet in America, are responsible for the deaths of over 6,000 American troops and hundreds of thousands of defenseless civilians in Iraq.
I wish that we could throw these imbedded journalists in prison forever with Bush and Cheney. I wouldn’t give them an ounce of food or water. I’d just let them eat each other until the last of the murdering scum fades away.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pmIs this news? I can’t beleive CNN wasted so much air time on this! Clearly, the reason they do waste time like this is because the intricacies of real issues like health care are too complicated for them.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:24 pmWow, I really want to take Nico’s side in this, but he came off so small-timer tit-for-tat, and, worse, he completely missed the core of his own position.
Why does he even feel he has to defend himself? He did nothing wrong. He ends up muddying the water. Imagine if he’d said this:
‘The Obama press people contacted me. I don’t have any idea of the appropriateness of that. So I did my best to come up with a responsible, tough question. I can’t control whether they contact me. I can control whether my question was responsible in a journalistic sense. Compare that to, say, Jeff Gannon asking about Harry Reid and soup lines, which was the definition of stage-managing. I have nothing more to add to this. I see all the rest of Dana’s huffing and puffing as some kind of turf-protection and jealousy that seems to be about the position I was put in, but nothing about what I did when I found myself in that position.’
June 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pmWell said djangone.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pmRabbitcore says Nico got ambushed, I am so sorry, he should have been much, much more aware of those clowns and his surroundings, they do not play fair, I am sure he tried to do what is right, and if given another chance he will square, his opposition can not stand with the truth before them. No battle should be fought unless it is already won, and however tragic, a humble lesson for us all.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:46 pmMillbank is a dick and a crybaby. If he weren’t so bad at his job, bloggers wouldn’t have to do it for him.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pmHey, Dana–who was “right” and who was “wrong” about such vital matters as Iraq? Now move over and STFU.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:03 pmgo nico!
milbank is the dick here… but, you knew that…
i’ll probably find out when i read the comments soon,
but didn’t milbank have another hissy fit recently?
with or on olberman?
oh, and, wouldn’t ED HELMS do a good job of playing
June 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmDana the DICK Milbank?
i just read some idjit who thinks milbank “really handed pitney his ass”…
jeesh… milbank looked, sounded and acted like a sour-grapes-suckin’, whiny-ass, jealous tattle-tale in the vice-principle’s office…
what a pussy… a dickish pussy… and the little trooll too…
June 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pmTXProgressive Says:
You know exactly what milbank did. He dared to criticize obama on olbermanns comedy show. That’s a big “NO,NO” on olbyplanet!
June 28th, 2009 at 8:39 pmI forget, didn’t Dana Call out Jeff Gannon/Guckert for being a fake journalist?
June 28th, 2009 at 8:42 pmDidn’t think so.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:43 pmRepublicans Love Facts,
You can whine about how much you hate Olberman all you want, but since you love facts, let me share some with you.
The Republicans are a super minority. The Republicans do not have a majority in either house or the Executive branch.
The Republicans have little chance of regaining the presidency and Republicans are going to lose even more Senate and congressional seats in 2010 and 2012.
The Republican Party is marginalized and must learn to accept its new level of representation, at the same level as that of the American Communist Party.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pmSpeaking of dickheads, do you know why Dana Milbank wears a tie?
To keep his foreskin from wrapping itself over his head and suffocating him…
June 28th, 2009 at 8:48 pmNico’s biggest sin was showing up the hiteHouse press corpse for the pack of lazy, incurious, sycophantic asslick hacks and shills they are and their corporat bosses want them to be…
June 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pmThe NYT is upset that Sean Hannity did a special over the weekend that focused on Obama’s radical associations. The Times is angry because it was an overly partisan presentation that lacked any opposing point of view.
The odd thing is that Keith Olbermann NEVER has an opposing viewpoint on his show. He brings in the same bunch of left-wing ‘yes men’ to nod in agreement with him night after night.
Thankfully, Olbermann Watch decided to complile a list of Olbermann’s guests going all the way back to 2006 and identify them by party:
* May 22 (2006): Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
June 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pm* May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
* June 9: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
* June 16: Rep John Murtha (D)
* June 19: Al Gore (D)
* June 20: Sen Jack Reed (D)
* June 20: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 23: Al Gore (D)
* July 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 12: Barbara Boxer (D)
* July 13: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 26: Bill Richardson (D)
* August 8: Daily Kos (D)
* August 9: Joe Trippi (D)
* August 30: Howard Dean (D)
* August 31: Barbara Boxer (D)
* August 31: Rocky Anderson (D)
* September 5: Tom Kean Jr (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* September 6: Richard Ben-Veniste (D)
* September 7: Sean Maloney (D)
* September 8: Mack McLarty (D)
* September 11: Max Cleland (D)
* September 20: Jane Hamsher (D)
* September 22: Bill Jefferson Clinton (D)
* September 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* September 28: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 16: John Ashcroft (R)
* October 18: Joe Trippi (D)
* October 20: Barack Obama (D)
* October 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 31: Joe Trippi (D)
* November 6: Howard Dean (D)
* November 22: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 30: Joe Trippi (D)
* December 6: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 3 (2007): Barney Frank (D)
* January 4: John Murtha (D)
* January 4: Jay Rockefeller (D)
* January 11: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 18: George McGovern (D)
* January 23: Hillary Clinton (D)
* January 24: James Webb (D)
* January 24: Hillary Clinton (D)
* February 20: Tammy Duckworth (D)
* February 21: David Boies (D)
* February 27: Patrick Murphy (D)
* March 21: Charles Schumer (D)
* March 22: Patrick Leahy (D)
* April 2: Joe Biden (D)
* April 3: Russ Feingold (D)
* April 6: Madeleine Albright (D)
* May 15: Lanny Davis (D)
* May 29: Al Gore (D)
* June 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 20: Wesley Clark (D)
* June 26: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* July 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 12: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 20: John Kerry (D)
* July 26: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 8: Joe Biden (D)
* August 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* August 30: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 4: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 12: Chris Dodd (D)
* September 13: Joe Biden (D)
* September 27: Jim Webb (D)
* September 27: Bill Clinton (D)
* September 28: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* September 28: Bill Clinton (D)
* October 3: John Edwards (D)
* October 11: Hillary Clinton (D)
* October 12: Bill Richardson (D)
* October 24: John Garabendi (D)
* October 29: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 19: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 29: John Edwards (D)
* November 30: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 11: Tim Roemer (D)
* December 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 14: Markos Moulitas (D)
* December 27: Chris Dodd (D)
* January 4 (2008): John Edwards (D)
* January 10: Bill Richardson (D)
* January 11: Rush Holt (D)
* January 23: John Edwards (D)
* February 25: Dee Dee Myers (D)
* March 14: Barack Obama (D)
* March 21: Bill Richardson (D)
* March 31: Chuck Hagel (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* April 9: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* April 21: Hillary Clinton (D)
* April 25: James Clyburn (D)
* April 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* May 1: Joe Andrew (D)
* May 9: Harry Reid (D)
* May 9: James Webb (D)
* May 28: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 6: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 9: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 11: John Kerry (D)
* June 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 23: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* June 25: Robert Wexler (D)
* June 30: Jim Webb (D)
* July 1: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 17: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 21: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 22: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 25: Bob Barr (L)
* July 31: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 8: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 12: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 8: Barack Obama (D)
* September 9: Barack Obama (D)
* September 10: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 12: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* September 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 18: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 24: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 25: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* September 26: Robert Gibbs (D)
* September 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 2: Chris Kofinis (D)
wow… check this out… he really is an insufferable dick…
found via balloon juice, via google search (of phrase copied earlier):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/06/19/DI2009061902029.html
i couldn’t read past many of the comments, because of his haughty attitude…
ick.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pmyay! good for keith!
it’s not enough! more truth! more truth!
thank the gods for keith olberman, rachel maddow and ed schultz on the teevee!
it’s working too!!!
June 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pmIt’s important for progressives to take notice that Obama is paying attention to what the Internet media outlets are thinking.
It gives me hope that Obama realized what a sham the traditional media has become. Progressives know that to have a clue what is really going on requires we gather our news and information from sources other than the mainstream media.
Newspapers that spew conservative tripe deserve to go bankrupt. Network and Cable news programs that cannot remain impartial don’t deserve to ask questions of the president.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:00 pmding ding ding!
shayne @17 knew the answer to my question! before i even asked it!
that’s it!
yea, keith gave him all kinds of time to fix that goof…
June 28th, 2009 at 9:00 pmi never did like him anyway… he proved me right.
Republicans Love Facts: If one were to tune in to “Rush Limbaugh” on those same dates they would get? The odd thing is that Limbaugh NEVER has an opposing viewpoint on his show. It’s usually just him and his drug-addled rantings–and from time to time Dick Cheney and Karl Rove–two known liars.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:04 pmOlberman doesn’t put Republicans on his show because no one gives a f uck what Republicans think.
Republicans are not in charge anymore and the wingnuts aren’t going to change that with Olberman watch.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:07 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
So?
Only idiots like you would get news from ONE source. Guess what? Just because Keith Olbermann says it, it doesn’t mean it’s carved in stone. We’re supposed to explore things further for ourselves, and come to our own conclusions.
Just because you know you’re a f ucking moron, doesn’t mean everyone else is.
Get over your Olbermann obsession, it’s really sad.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:09 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
I believe Rachel Maddow has a list of Republicans that she invited on her show who didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to make an appearance.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:09 pmIs anyone aware of how many have refused to do an interview with Mr. Olbermann?
That’s the whole thing, Reggie. The Reichwhiners never seem to go anywhere they might be challenged. Shelly Bachmann is doing interviews with Alex Jones, of Stormfront fame. Heck! Every time one of them appears, anywhere but FAUX, they just provide a new soundbite for rational people to call them on.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:30 pmAll the elite White House stenographers have their panties in a twist because bloggers are taking the time to ask actual tough questions and making them look bad.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:30 pmWow Go Keith!
Remember teabaggers an opposition to facts and the truth aren’t fiction and lies.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:33 pmOur sockpuppet friend expects us to find his list (courtesy of Olbermann Watch convincing, even though at first glance it’s difficult not to notice that there are only three guests listed for November, 2006, the month of a critical mid-term election. Only three political guests all month?
That seems a bit strange.
And only one political guest the following month, as Democrats in the House and Senate prepared to take control of Congress.
Y’know, it strikes me as a good way to skew a piece of “evidence” such as this; compile a list of all the liberal guests, throw in a bare sprinkling of conservatives to make it look authentically comprehensive, and pretend that it’s not a partial review assembled for a specific agenda.
Would it have killed ya to include frequent Olbermann guest Pat Buchanan? If you had, it wouldn’t have been quite so easy to destroy the credibility of the list. It would still have been easy, but not THIS easy.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:34 pmi knew it! shayne was the first of many…
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as to how obama knew about nico’s blogging with iranians, that was well publicised on the left… even rachel maddow gave him a shout out, saying his was the go-to site for news about the rallies…
even though obama said he didn’t listen to the ‘chatter’ on the cable shows – to which rachel gave a smack-down of that notion…
June 28th, 2009 at 9:41 pmAnd there’s such a thing called a stupid question.
If it weren’t for Keith, Rachael, Ed and a few others, all we would hear from are idiots.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pmBrilliant work “Republicans like facts” a.k.a. Sherlock Holmes. Give me a DUHHHH shout out everyone! That’s why we watch the freeking show! We know we will not have to see the likes of Trans Coulter, Bully O’Rielly, or the “Weiner-Savage” on Kieth’s show. Where does he ever say that he is “fair and balanced”. Only a moron would watch his show and not know it is a progressives view (though always factual, so you should like that.
And Nico did a brilliant job! That guy is going places.
June 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pmOk Amanda T. disrespecting Nico, well, shall we take this outside as Howie suggested, and I’m sure he said this in jest. Just let me be there I’ve got one hell of an asenlix psilocybin hit that would come over the top of Nico’s right shoulder like a rogue lightning strike.
June 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pmit’s important that we get back to the original folks’ reporting to decide the next president – john a. boehner!
June 28th, 2009 at 11:40 pmWhen Pitney delivered the knock out punch describing Milbank the worm as “quick to malign, slow to correct,” Milbank got this look on his face like he’d been hit on the head by a two by four. Shut up Amanda Carpenter. You as the arbitrator? Bite me.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:00 amdont be dick , dick
June 29th, 2009 at 12:05 amralph the wonder locust Says
Where’s your evidence to back your claim? None?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:07 amWhere does he ever say that he is “fair and balanced”. Only a moron would watch his show and not know it is a progressives view
“I’m not biased.” keith olbermanns own words
June 29th, 2009 at 12:13 ammore WaPo trouble:
WaPo Turns Into Healthcare Insurance Industry Advocate By Skewing Coverage
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/wapo-turns-healthcare-insurance-indus
June 29th, 2009 at 12:32 amIf only Nico had said “I know you are, but what am I?” It would have made my friggin week!
June 29th, 2009 at 12:34 amWhich claim is that, Republicans Love Goats?
My evidence is right here.
That will back up my claim that your list only names three guest for the entire month of November 2006, and only a single guest for that December.
Pretty simple observation to confirm, don’t you think?
Oe did you mean the claim that Pat Buchanan (R) is a frequent guest on Countdown?
That evidence is here.
As for the rest of it, that’s just simple deductive reasoning on my part, based on the evidence you have provided.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am“I love to blow goats.” Republicans Love Goats own words
June 29th, 2009 at 12:36 amRepublicans Love Facts,
I was hoping your moniker was at least true and not libelous about yourself. But maybe you do love facts, you were just handed a bad one. According to your list which I have slightly included apparently Olbermann only invites dem’s or lib’s to the show as guest or at least that is what we would see from your post which is taken from another site. Quite frankly I find Olbermann to be an overzealous dip wad who’s only claim to fame is that he opposes an equally offensive dip wad, both of whom share bad tailors and lack any dignity. And while I find the lack of honesty on O’Bile ey’s show to be offensive, I also find Olbermann to have the same penchant for dishonesty. Of course neither of them annoy me as much as Beck and Maddow, but I’ll leave that for later. My point is that I do not favor Olbermann any more than I favor Oreilly but at least I respect people enough to get the facts straight. While Olbermann did host a string of libs. The dates you list do not cover all of the guest or contributors to the show as they are pot shots at the guest list and not the full guest list. if you look at dates between the dates you listed you will find Republicans as well as bizarro cons like Ron paul or angry white men like Pat Buchanan fill the list of guests and contributors. Look at your list for yourself, a show that is a five nighter show should have five dates within the week yet most of the months only have two or three days listed. Where are the rest of the shows? Well those would be the dates where special contributors like Paul, or Buchanan came and sat in, or others talked about non political events. I always find these watch lists disappointing, especially from the political right as they tend to be guided by the bias of those who w”right” them. As a person who likes facts I would think you’d rather quote actual facts rather than a package handed to you by some group supported by a right wing fundamentalist church leader. And many times you do, so I will just chalk this up to accidental misinformation and not intentional disservice to the cause of truth.
May 22 (2006): Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
*May 23: Who?
May 24: who?
May 25: Who?
May 26: who?
May 29 Who? (I’ll give you a hint at least two of these normally have R after their name)
May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
May 31 Who?
June 1: Who?
June 2 Who?
June 5: Who?
June 6: Who?
June 7: Who?
June8: Who?
* June 9: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
June 12: Who?
June 13: Who?
June 14: Who?
* June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
June 16: Who?
I think you see the point, this was rather underreported because of bias against Olbermann.
As for Rush Limbaugh, he does have dems on the show occasionally. Now most of the time he yells at them non stop and doesn’t let them speak, but he does have dems on the show. During the days of his old radio program he never let a liberal on his show. So it’s a change for the better.
But let’s face the facts Anne Coulter has seen ten times as much play as a contributor on FNC then any one person has for any other show, and she is not an expert on anything. Last time I saw her she was there as the expert on climatology. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t she get a degree in law? Not science? So if anyone should get credit for being one sided it should be the people who ask her to visit so often Fox news, followed closely but a distant second by MsNBC.
In the case of Nico, all of the reporters are asked to the briefing room and told what topics the president will cover. This has been the practice since they started conferences. They all get the prep time, and regular reporters are given a list of salient talking points that the President will probably cover in his speech. Irregular reporters like the post or bloggers who are special invitees do not get that list nor are they always aware of the topics the president is willing and able to cover at the conference. In that way they are the only ones who do not get special privileges and prior information from the White House, which is why they tend not to be called or come up with some off the wall questions when they are. So if Dana is damning prior knowledge privileges then he is somewhat damning himself as he gets the same rights all the time where many bloggers aren’t even invited.
The fact that the president previously arranged for a person who is not status quo media to ask a question is rather unusual, especially from someone who may be emotionally charged in their questioning. That question is a potential landmine, and most administrations would avoid those people and stick to standard media who ask safe-t questions because they want to get invited back. That’s what makes this question and retort so amazing, everyone knows that if a reporter asks too tough a questions or presses too hard for answers they will shut out of the media game for any president, so the president can rely on them to soft ball most questions, but special interests or special news outlets with one time invites have nothing to lose and will play hardball like no other as can be seen. The fact that Dana was prepared with attacks against Niko suggests that he was usingthe Niko event to further his own carreer and tried to create a personal bullypulpit out of his position.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:38 amAppellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdock, successfully argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves.
This case was all about reporter Steve Wilson and his wife, working not for FNC but for a Fox affiliate in Florida (it would later be a Fox-owned station but this all began when it was still independent).
June 29th, 2009 at 12:40 amhttp://www.2dca.org/opinion/February%2014,%202003/2D01-529.pdf
The actual court document.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:44 amqmslager: Your trying to present facts to someone who thinks Oliver North is a hero.
Stop it.
Look at his name. “Republicans Love Facts”
June 29th, 2009 at 12:54 amIf he did would he be a Republican.
You have to have faith in a whole lot of lies to be a Republican.
And that’s a big lot.
June 29th, 2009 at 12:56 amamanda carpenter is the young republican of the future! i love her pretentiosness towards these libs! she did an amazing job sticking up for sarah and the leadership potention of john mccain during the campaign!
June 29th, 2009 at 12:58 amREWARD for anyone who finds my missing republican majority!
June 29th, 2009 at 1:26 amMoose Boogers who?
Joe the Plunger what?
Charlie Krauthammer and Fox’s alternative reality why?
Seriously, why is anyone giving any attention to the sore losers?
They keep using their straw man argument of the LBRUL MEDIA.
For all the years Fox and the BU$HWIPES had unrestricted access to the Chimp’s W.H., they kept whining all along.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
the LBRUL MEDIA.
Seriously, is there any pundit, commentator, analyst on the GOPig side with ANY credibility left?
June 29th, 2009 at 1:30 amKaty, you nailed something I’ve been pondering today. The Bush administration, neo-cons, and most Republican statesmen and pundits manifest the worst attributes of our cultural male principle and the worst of the female principle.
“dickish-pussy”
like you say
Sure it would be great if we could see a critical mass of the best of both in our culture, but it would be a profound improvement to dilute that negative…geistgechichte? of dickish-pussiness in half.
BTW, I wonder if this cussing among these pundits lately isn’t a symptom of their study of blogs.
June 29th, 2009 at 1:32 amdeductive reasoning
LOL!
June 29th, 2009 at 2:39 amCan you imagine if KO & Maddow didn’t have a show? There would be no lefty side of the news at all on any channel! Thankfully we have them! What a dark cloudy world we would live in with only the right wingers represented on the airwaves.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:38 amWhoever posted the following list…THANK YOU! It’s fabulous! At least some people who are watching the news are getting the facts with this kind of line up….
* May 22 (2006): Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
June 29th, 2009 at 6:39 am* May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
* June 9: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
* June 16: Rep John Murtha (D)
* June 19: Al Gore (D)
* June 20: Sen Jack Reed (D)
* June 20: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 23: Al Gore (D)
* July 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 12: Barbara Boxer (D)
* July 13: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* July 26: Bill Richardson (D)
* August 8: Daily Kos (D)
* August 9: Joe Trippi (D)
* August 30: Howard Dean (D)
* August 31: Barbara Boxer (D)
* August 31: Rocky Anderson (D)
* September 5: Tom Kean Jr (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* September 6: Richard Ben-Veniste (D)
* September 7: Sean Maloney (D)
* September 8: Mack McLarty (D)
* September 11: Max Cleland (D)
* September 20: Jane Hamsher (D)
* September 22: Bill Jefferson Clinton (D)
* September 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* September 28: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 16: John Ashcroft (R)
* October 18: Joe Trippi (D)
* October 20: Barack Obama (D)
* October 26: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* October 31: Joe Trippi (D)
* November 6: Howard Dean (D)
* November 22: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 30: Joe Trippi (D)
* December 6: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 3 (2007): Barney Frank (D)
* January 4: John Murtha (D)
* January 4: Jay Rockefeller (D)
* January 11: Russ Feingold (D)
* January 18: George McGovern (D)
* January 23: Hillary Clinton (D)
* January 24: James Webb (D)
* January 24: Hillary Clinton (D)
* February 20: Tammy Duckworth (D)
* February 21: David Boies (D)
* February 27: Patrick Murphy (D)
* March 21: Charles Schumer (D)
* March 22: Patrick Leahy (D)
* April 2: Joe Biden (D)
* April 3: Russ Feingold (D)
* April 6: Madeleine Albright (D)
* May 15: Lanny Davis (D)
* May 29: Al Gore (D)
* June 5: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* June 20: Wesley Clark (D)
* June 26: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* July 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 12: Wesley Clark (D)
* July 20: John Kerry (D)
* July 26: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 6: Wesley Clark (D)
* August 8: Joe Biden (D)
* August 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* August 30: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 4: Wesley Clark (D)
* September 12: Chris Dodd (D)
* September 13: Joe Biden (D)
* September 27: Jim Webb (D)
* September 27: Bill Clinton (D)
* September 28: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* September 28: Bill Clinton (D)
* October 3: John Edwards (D)
* October 11: Hillary Clinton (D)
* October 12: Bill Richardson (D)
* October 24: John Garabendi (D)
* October 29: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 19: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* November 29: John Edwards (D)
* November 30: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 11: Tim Roemer (D)
* December 14: Lawrence O’Donnell (D)
* December 14: Markos Moulitas (D)
* December 27: Chris Dodd (D)
* January 4 (2008): John Edwards (D)
* January 10: Bill Richardson (D)
* January 11: Rush Holt (D)
* January 23: John Edwards (D)
* February 25: Dee Dee Myers (D)
* March 14: Barack Obama (D)
* March 21: Bill Richardson (D)
* March 31: Chuck Hagel (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* April 9: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
* April 21: Hillary Clinton (D)
* April 25: James Clyburn (D)
* April 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* May 1: Joe Andrew (D)
* May 9: Harry Reid (D)
* May 9: James Webb (D)
* May 28: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 6: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 9: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
* June 11: John Kerry (D)
* June 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* June 23: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* June 25: Robert Wexler (D)
* June 30: Jim Webb (D)
* July 1: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 17: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 21: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 22: Chris Kofinis (D)
* July 25: Bob Barr (L)
* July 31: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 8: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 12: Chris Kofinis (D)
* August 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 8: Barack Obama (D)
* September 9: Barack Obama (D)
* September 10: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 12: Markos Moulitsas (D)
* September 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 18: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 24: Chris Kofinis (D)
* September 25: Rahm Emanuel (D)
* September 26: Robert Gibbs (D)
* September 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
* October 2: Chris Kofinis (D)
Republicans Blow Goats for food.
Do either of the original losers where you lifted the list know you are lifting their work without credit to them?
You lifted an Oct 7, 2008 blog post that refers to another loser.
In the ultimate case, the credit goes to Mark Koldys. Loser blogger with 3 regulars and a homosexual obsession with Keith Olbermann. This idiot started collecting his list on May 22, 2006, with the latest entry on Feb 26, 2009.
For a CEO/Managing Editor/Internet marketing/new media consultant to be charging an hourly rate (all prices are negotiable) of $50.00 an hour, I see being a CEO is not what it used to be.
And the October 2008 post, a grand total of ZERO tweets and ZERO replies.
The new moniker fits you quite well:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:58 am
qmslager has an excellent point about Republicans Love Facts (ironic name, that one. LOL.). Where are all the missing days and guests? That’s the first point. But the second is this: so what if Olbermann has a plethora of Democratic guests? He is only on one hour a day during the week. Faux News spews their unedited Republican talking points 24/7! I think that Olbermann is a drop in the bucket compared to Faux’s GOP propaganda machine, the hosts of which, when they have Democrats on as “guests” proceed to shout them down, frown at them, talk over them, cut their mics, etc. Some way to treat your “guests!” My mother would be appalled, but she doesn’t watch Faux.
June 29th, 2009 at 8:11 amThere’s something that wants clarifying:
Milbank, on his insufferable ‘Washington Sketch,’ claims that he did coverage on Jeff Gannon extensively.
There’s just one problem, as I read it. Here is the salient excerpt on Milbank’s ‘Sketch:’
Apparently Milbank missed the slam entirely. As I understand Boehlert’s point, Milbank criticized Pitney within hours of asking a single question, but Gannon, a fake journalist with a fake name and phony journo credentials for two years since 2003, operated openly right under Milbank’s nose without Milbank making a peep, until another organization exposed Gannon.
That’s some investigative instincts on Milbank’s part.
Two years.
Milbank is evidently unable to connect any dots whatsoever unless someone else either does it for him or, as in Pitney’s case, Milbank fills in his own dots to satisfy a predetermined suspicion…
(ht: katy #67 for the link)
June 29th, 2009 at 8:36 amPitney certainly did more than hold his own in that exchange. He got a heavy dig in on Milbanks rotten coverage of the lead up to the invasion of Iraq and he easily shot down Milbank by pointing out that his question was not a softball question. More proof can be gleaned from the fact that it was Milbank who did the name calling. Let’s see how this plays out on MSNBC tonight. I am sure it will have coverage.
June 29th, 2009 at 8:37 amRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Let’s see…no citing any of his pilfered information, the overuse of the LOL!…
Hi, obamawipe$!
Hiding behind another name? SHOCKER!
June 29th, 2009 at 8:41 amqmslager Says:. . . I always find these watch lists disappointing, especially from the political right as they tend to be guided by the bias of those who w”right” them. As a person who likes facts I would think you’d rather quote actual facts rather than a package handed to you by some group supported by a right wing fundamentalist church leader. And many times you do, so I will just chalk this up to accidental misinformation and not intentional disservice to the cause of truth.
And what a shock that RepublicansLoveFacts failed to respond to this post. I appreciate the time and thoughtfulness that went into your message, qmslager.
Unfortunately, truth, facts, and reality often get in the way of one’s long-held, pre-conceived notions.
Wayyyyyy too disturbing to open one’s mind to new information. Muuuuuuuch easier to just call names and deny the truth.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:41 amStill no proof, ‘ralph?’
On to better news, it looks like the bible quack has found a church!
Now, in an unexpected move, Obama has told White House aides that instead of joining a congregation in Washington, D.C., he will follow in George W. Bush’s footsteps and make his primary place of worship Evergreen Chapel.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:31 amwiley Says:
Katy, you nailed something [...] the worst attributes of our cultural male principle and the worst of the female principle.
“dickish-pussy”
wiley – a long time ago the “elders” here got into a discussion about using that word – pussy – because it could be sexist.
it COULD.
but not in MY case.
i use it EXCLUSIVELY as a description of one who is afraid,
a ’scaredy cat’, hence, a ‘pussy’…
any other use of the word, except as it relates to felines,
is untoward and you won’t hear it from me…
MY word of choice to refer to female genitalia is ‘twat’.
which is why i get annoyed with those who confuse the words
‘twit’ and ‘twat’… twits and idjits – same thing…
just sayin’…
June 29th, 2009 at 11:11 amNico may be a “Dick”, but he is no Jeff Gannon.
June 29th, 2009 at 11:13 amhanshiro @111 -
thanks!
i caught that too – you say it very well:
Apparently Milbank missed the slam entirely. As I understand Boehlert’s point, Milbank criticized Pitney within hours of asking a single question, but Gannon, a fake journalist with a fake name and phony journo credentials for two years since 2003, operated openly right under Milbank’s nose without Milbank making a peep, until another organization exposed Gannon.
TWO YEARS!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:13 amfletc3her Says:
All the elite White House stenographers have their panties in a twist because bloggers are taking the time to ask actual tough questions and making them look bad.
That’s the real dynamic going on here. They hate him because a mere “blogger” got invited to a White House press conference and was allowed to ask a question. Must be staged! It couldn’t possibly be because he’s been continually scooping them all on the most important news item to happen so far this year…
June 29th, 2009 at 11:21 amoh, and as far as ‘dick’ goes – that also has no relation to the male anatomy, in my view… i prefer another popular word…
June 29th, 2009 at 11:25 amin private…
ElBruce – remember the outrage when ed schultz sat in the front row of the first news conference… outrage, i tells ya!
and he didn’t even get to ask a question…
and not many bothered to explain that those people took a number, as they arrived, which designated their seat…
June 29th, 2009 at 11:28 amFurther investigation is called for. For example, why are these two lightweights getting so much play?
June 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pmTalking about soft balls, I don’t remember Dana having a problim with white house shill and Karl Rove Boy Toy jeff Gannon asking his questions, Hypocracy is endemic in the MSM that the right laments when they are questioned about their bathing and deoderant problems. What sensitive fellows they prove to be. Prima Donnas!
June 29th, 2009 at 11:21 pm