Wow, ignorance really is bliss.

I suppose wars support peace, racism supports equality and madness supports sanity?

Quick aside – you only go down for two counts of homicide if the pregnant woman you killed was far enough along. A fetus only has legal rights when it has been deemed viable, most frequently at 24 weeks. If the woman was 23 weeks along, it’s one count, not two. So your argument is only valid in the 3rd trimester, and late-term abortions aren’t legal unless they are deemed medically necessary, and even then they are only legal in 3 states. I welcome you to try again, because that argument failed, just like it has failed for years.

But all that aside.

Okay, I want everyone on this thread to know that these people are way out there crazy, even by Kentucky standards (I know, I’ve lived in Kentucky for 24 of my 25 years). I live in an area that is ridiculously redneck, and everyone I have spoken to about this has said basically the same thing: (paraphrased) “That is an incredibly un-Christian, irresponsible, and stupid thing to endorse.” This took place in Louisville, primarily Democratic with a population of 1.2 million, meaning that .0167% of the population showed up. In other words: We’re not all this stupid and crazy, and please try to not think that we are. We have some stupid and crazy people (like those “Creationist Museum” fools), just like everywhere else, but they are in the minority.

Some quick facts about Kentucky, because many people on this thread seem to think they know what they’re talking about, but clearly don’t. It’s somewhat lengthy, so if you already know about Kentucky, feel free to skip it, but most of you need to read it.

Firstly, Kentucky is not a state, it is a Commonwealth (one of four – VA, PA, and MA), and as such is structured differently than the states.

57% of the population are registered as Democrats, compared to 36.5% Republican. Democrats have run the state government for decades. Since 1851, we have had 43 Democratic governors and 8 Repub governors, 2 of which had Democratic lt. governors, and 1 Know-Nothing way back in 1855. The General Assembly is split in party leadership, with the Senate seating 21:15:1, R:D:I, and the House seating 65:35 D:R.

Adding to the interesting political mix, Kentucky usually votes Democratic on a state level, and usually votes Republican on a federal level. The primary reason for this is unknown, but is likely related to states rights and a pervasive distrust of the federal government (we’ve been burned more than once by the feds, so it’s not surprising, or even irrational).

46.5% of Kentuckians are not affiliated with any church or denomination (the largest segment of the population, with evangelicals coming in second with just over 30%), but the state is home to at least 13 religiously-tied colleges or seminaries, all of which are private and are in addition to the 8 public universities and 16 two-year colleges.

Kentucky was never part of the Confederacy. We were neutral for the bulk of the conflict, until in 1861 when the Confederate forces were forced to withdraw from Kentucky by the order of the General assembly and allegiance to the Union was declared. Even then, however, Kentucky was split. The phrase “brother against brother” has roots in here. Although I wish we had been pro-Union the entire time, it is rather fitting that we were neutral, considering that both Abe Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were from Kentucky, which only serves to show the division among the people in the state. There was a brief and poorly-executed attempt at a small Confederate shadow government, but the result was inconsequential.

Tidbits of interest:
-Kentucky has more navigable miles of waterway than any other state in the US save Alaska, is home to the largest artificial lake in the country, and has more than 90,000 miles of streams.
-Kentucky has 134 protected wildlife areas, including national and state parts, wildlife reserves, and and national forests, one of which is the largest in the country.
-Kentucky has the longest natural cave system in the world – Mammoth Cave.
-Kentucky has reintroduced elk and wild turkey, taking the state populations of the animals from extinct for decades to the largest population of the animals east of the Mississippi.
-Kentucky has more farms per mile than any other US state.
-Kentuckians love football, and really love basketball. If Billy Donovan ran for President, he’d win Kentucky by a landslide (only half-joking).

It’s a lovely state, and the people are sooooooo nice. I’ve known a lot of people who couldn’t wait to get out of our little town…and then couldn’t wait to move back. If you like the outdoors and nature, you’d love Kentucky. Plus we make better bourbon than anyone else. Period. Also, we grow incredible pot…..so I’m told. ;)

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Ghost Walker373 Says:

Jesus said to love your enemy as your brother and to pray for him, but i don’t see where he said we could not defend ourselves…

Matthew 5:39:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.

I think that’s a pretty clear prohibition against defending yourself.

I’m not a churchgoer, and it took me fifteen seconds to find that passage. I would think that observant Christians would have at least some idea what they were talking about when they talk about their religion. And yet I am continually disapponited.

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Ghost Walker373 Says:

…but it is ok to kill a unborn baby??

There’s no such thing as an unborn baby.

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DREW_R Says:

This is sad. Leftwing Liberal Idiots vs Rghtwing dips&*ts.

What’s even sadder is equating the sane people with the crazy ones to try to spread the blame around. Nope, the right-wingers are provably in the wrong in this case as well as all other currently controversial issues. Waving your hands about how “everybody’s a bunch of idiots” isn’t fooling anyone here. The last time your argument was popular, it gave Nader almost 5% of the popular vote.

That being said, we desperately need new federal controls on the casual ownership of deadly weapons. We also need a national registry of violent criminals and mental patients.

Then we need to rationally discuss raising the standard for gun ownership to match a typical “conceal/carry” permit. We need to consider tighter control of “military style” high firepower volume weapons. And we need to eliminate unlicensed sales.

All of those things can be done without violating any part of the Constitution and would serve public safety. When Mexican gangsters are coming here to buy their weapons we have something seriously effed up.

Instead we have in ther place dishonesty, back stabbing and thieves running our gov and a vocal minoriy duped into supporing it. That’s all any of either extreme are.

So go hide behind your guns. Fear every person who doesn’t look like you or talk like you.

Your condition can be labeled pathetic!

Don’t get me wrong, I am not a church going red state zealot but I am an American and I support the Constitution 100%.

Oh I see. You are a member of a well-regulated State Militia.

Yes I am. I was sworn to protect the Constittion of the United States when I joined th US Army and till hold to that sweets. Even if I have to protect it from citizens of the United States such as the minority but vocal socialist liberls trying to tear it down.

I think this problem can be blamed on the wonderful education these people obviously don’t have.

Holy Son of the Gun Batman, there is guns in that Church. We need the bat lasso.

Those idiots Known as the GOP, do they realize that President Obama taught Constitutional Law? Hypocracy at its best.

Mondays were designated “Bring Your Own Switchblade Knife Day.”
Tuesdays…and the church’s southside parking lot…were set aside for “Bring Your Own Tank Day.”
Wednesdays were set aside for parishioners to practice their Kung-Fu moves.
Thursday is Ladies Day at the church…women are shown how to hide weapons in their girdles and Gucci glasses.
Friday is “Baseball Bats and Lead Pipes Day.”
Saturday is their day off. Church members are encouraged to wander about town photographing strangers and other suspicious people.
Sunday: Everyone practices with live ammunition.

Sunday night: One big happy sing-in.

Everybody now! Sing along! Don’t be shy!

ralph, you crack me up sometimes!