After Campaigning For Climate Change Legislation, McCain Now Derides It As ‘Cap-And-Tax’
After Campaigning For Climate Change Legislation, McCain Now Derides It As ‘Cap-And-Tax’
On Friday, the House passed the American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) Act which, among other things, would institute a cap-and-trade system to curb U.S. carbon emissions that contribute to man-made climate change. The Senate is set to consider the legislation in the fall, but a number of Republican senators have declared the legislation dead on arrival. In an interview this morning with conservative talker Mike Broomhead on Pheonix, AZ’s Newstalk 550 KFYI, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) echoed their sentiments. He smeared the ACES legislation as a “cap-and-tax” program motivated by the Obama administration’s desire to pay for things like “banks and the world’s largest insurance company”:
MCCAIN: In its present form, which is cap-and-tax. … It’s really terrible, because I believe that climate change is real, I believe it is something that we need to address, and I’m sure that a lot of Americans do, but to do so with a bill like this? … What [the Obama administration is] doing is using cap-and-trade…to raise billions of dollars so they can spend money on Cash for Clunkers, you know, buying General Motors and Banks and the world’s largest insurance company. … So it started on the wrong path and now it’s just turned into, you know, it’s laws and sausages at its worst in my view.
Asked whether he thought ACES would get through the Senate and the U.S. would “end up with cap-and-trade,” McCain lamented, “Look, elections have consequences.” McCain said further that Americans didn’t support ACES, calling it a “far-left” agenda item. Listen here:
While resistance to ACES among Senate Republicans isn’t surprising, McCain’s apparent disdain for the legislation certainly is. During the campaign, McCain laid out a plan to reduce U.S. carbon emissions that included a cap-and-trade component. Describing his plan in May 2008, McCain said, “A cap-and-trade policy will send a signal that will be heard and welcomed all across the American economy.” In June 2008, he said, “I have proposed a new system of cap-and-trade that over time will change the dynamic of our energy economy.” What was that McCain said about elections having consequences? It seems Congress would likely be considering a cap-and-trade system today even if McCain had won the election last fall.
More to the point, however, McCain’s principle substantive objection to early versions of ACES — that it would have auctioned 100 percent of the initial emission permits — has been addressed. The version that passed the House on Friday allows for 85 percent of the emission permits to be distributed free of charge for a “prolonged transition period.”
Finally, McCain is simply wrong to claim that the American people are not supportive of legislation like ACES. According to a Washington Post-ABC Poll, 75 percent of respondents said they supported government regulation of green house gas emissions, and 80 percent of those respondents said the government should do so even if it raised the cost of goods. As for their support for a cap-and-trade system, in particular, 52 percent of respondents favored it while just 42 percent said they opposed it.
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Time to send grampy to the old folks home. He could make new friends every day.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pmGood on McCain. Cap and trade will do nothing but make utilities sky rocket.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pmI’d much rather see mclame embarrass himself by offering his wife up for sex with bikers at sturgis (which he did last summer) than see him be such a shill.
Of course the real issue is this – I do not even see faux or the mainstream media reporting on what grandpa mclame says today.
Why does TP?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pmclimate change is a LIE.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Good on McCain. Cap and trade will do nothing but make utilities sky rocket.
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this legislation doesn’t set utility rates.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:39 pmThe Young Republican Says:
climate change is a LIE.
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and tons of pages of research to the contrary goes POOF!
June 29th, 2009 at 4:40 pmso what if you’re young?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:40 pmRepublicans Love Facts @#2, can you prove your claim with a credible link?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pmwhere did The Young Republican go? did he leave fearing a military recruiter would show up?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pmhttp://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/i-am-your-mother/1085842/
i’ll say it in this tone – IT’S A LIE!
June 29th, 2009 at 4:46 pmThe REpubliCANTS Party, aka Goofy Obstructionist Partisans, is going, going, gone. Extinct. Out of Business. As the great Elmer Fudd once said, “good riddance to bad wubbish.”
June 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pmG.O.P., R.I.P.
If Mcaine was smart he would have his wife by his side when he talks in public. She isnt a bad looking woman. We all know that in America sex sells. She has quite a few years on me but i wouldnt mind…….
June 29th, 2009 at 4:49 pmBut the sweeping climate bill Mr. Waxman and Rep. Edward J. Markey … introduced at the end of March includes a provision that benefits Duke Energy Corp., a founding member of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP), whose climate plan released in January the lawmakers have frequently called a “blueprint” for their climate legislation.
The exemption would save Duke Energy — along with other firms now building new coal power plants — from having to spend millions of dollars outfitting its Cliffside, N.C., power plant currently under construction with “clean coal” technology.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pmWhile campaigning, Grampy couldn’t even remember his talking points from day to day, so why should he be more lucid after six months? Dementia doesn’t work that way.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pmTaxes up=rates up. Economics 101.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pmI see Republicans Love Goats has run out of his own ideas and so is plagiarizing again.
Yawn.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:53 pmLet’s face it, folks; Grampy shot what little wad he had left in ‘08.
Stick a fork in him. He’s done.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWhen you can’t refute, atack messenger…..yawn.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Taxes up=rates up. Economics 101
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does a tax rate always increase in your world?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
“When you can’t refute, atack messenger…..yawn.”
what exactly is your “message”? that you’re a jackass who can’t provide a credible link for his claims?
June 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pmIt’s laws and sausages at its worst in my view.
Yup. “Laws and sausages.” But remember, it would be totally inappropriate to speculate that McCain had a stroke last year.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:00 pmThank God this crazy old man will never be POUSA. McSame yelling at the clouds.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:00 pmRonnie Raygun, king messiah of the rethuglican party, raised taxes.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:01 pmDaddy Bush raised taxes.
That message has been received, loud and clear.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Who cares what that PANAMANIAN POLITICIAN THINKS? ;)
June 29th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
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Seriously. How is Johñ McCaiñ in any way relevant to anything?
June 29th, 2009 at 5:10 pmLaws and sausages, sounds like something out of “The Stand”…
My Laws, M -O -O -N that spells sausages!
June 29th, 2009 at 5:10 pmYes I am a young republican. We are growing rapidly and soon the youth of this great nation will be mostly republicans. Want proof? Youtube search steven crowder.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pmMccain never held a principle that he wasn’t willing to sell. He’s just a sore loser and a cranky old man who’s time has come and gone.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pmWe are growing rapidly and soon the youth of this great nation will be mostly republicans.
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hi steven crowder. we youngins elected barack obama.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:15 pma comedian? a f ucking comedian?
June 29th, 2009 at 5:17 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Taxes up=rates up. Economics 101.
June 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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Unless, of course, these taxes are offset by savings in energy efficiency and the cost of fossil fuels that are replaced by renewable energy sources. As well as revenue companies gain by trading in carbon futures, which is what’s happening in the EU cap-and-trade system.
That’s economics 301 – you haven’t gotten there yet.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:18 pmRumors that John McCain was embalmed in 2008 are false.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:18 pmThe Young Republican Says:
Yes I am a young republican. We are growing rapidly and soon the youth of this great nation will be mostly republicans. Want proof? Youtube search steven crowder.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
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For better proof, see the Mike Judge movie “Idiocracy,” whose basic premise is that stupid people reproduce in far greater numbers than intelligent people.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:20 pmi know the right so well i spend my time here mocking them. the ranks of republicans thinned out to snippy, callous, rude, greedy, know-it-all-better-than-you-do rhetorical flourishing types.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:21 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
He informs us on how BANANA REPUBLICANS think… ;)
June 29th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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Got the feeliñg, power steeriñg,
June 29th, 2009 at 5:23 pmPistoñs poppiñg, aiñt ño stoppiñg ñow!
The Young Republican Says:
Yes I am a young republican. We are growing rapidly and soon the youth of this great nation will be mostly republicans.”
especially with freaks like bristol palin getting knocked up outta wedlock.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:23 pmamanda carpenter is a recent example of a young republicans i described.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:24 pmMcCain the maverick, I was for it when running for President and now that I lost, I’m against everything that I was for.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI know fox noise is a joke but i like to think that when you make phone calls it might have some sort of impact. I just left a message directed towards that clown beck (1-212-301-3000). Fox is so delibrate with their rightwing propaganda that it should be illegal. I dont condone violence but i would pay good money to slap the shit out of beck and then bang his wife.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:26 pmFein: Obama ’shuts his eyes’ to ‘open confessions’ of Bush-era war crimes
Speaking at the National Press Club on Monday, former Reagan administration Associated Attorney General Bruce Fein lamented President Barack Obama’s decision to shut his eyes to open confessions of war crimes by members of the prior administration.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:26 pmHeck, he couldn’t even remember that Joe’s name was Sam or that he wasn’t really a plumber.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:29 pmPoliticians love cap and trade because they can claim to be taxing “polluters,” not workers. Hardly. Once the government creates a scarce new commodity — in this case the right to emit carbon — and then mandates that businesses buy it, the costs would inevitably be passed on to all consumers in the form of higher prices. Stating the obvious, Peter Orszag — now Mr. Obama’s budget director — told Congress last year that “Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program.”
Hit hardest would be the “95% of working families” Mr. Obama keeps mentioning, usually omitting that his no-new-taxes pledge comes with the caveat “unless you use energy.” Putting a price on carbon is regressive by definition because poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries or home heating.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThe Young Republican Says:
Yes I am a young republican. We are growing rapidly …BLAH BLAH, BLAH…
Your little woody may be growing, but the rest of the nation just guffaws at your complete absurdity. Your craving for authoritarian subserviance is pathetic.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pmIt’s why the GOP is down to 21% of the population… ;)
As opposed to the less than 10% progressive?
June 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pmSounds like a problem. Try laying off the Cheetos, and get some exercise.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pmThe libs are scared they are losing their youth vote to the conservative republicans. The libs are scared of steven crowder.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:40 pmJohn McCain: “I believe climate change is real, I believe it is something we need to address.”
WOW. Most republicans would have gagged on those words.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:45 pmMore plagiarizing from Republicans Love Goats.
You know how we can tell when the troll plagiarizes?
Because it posts complete sentences that approach making sense.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThe Young Republican Says:
“The libs are scared they are losing their youth vote to the conservative republicans.”
yeah, because grampy mclame really appealed to the 40 and under set.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pmOnce the government creates a scarce new commodity — in this case the right to emit carbon — and then mandates that businesses buy it, the costs would inevitably be passed on to all consumers in the form of higher prices.
Unless, of course, those busineses buy energy from Wind, Solar, or Geothermal sources….
That’s kind of the point.
Conservatives are SOOOOOO into the power of Market Forces, except (as in this case) when they’re Not.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pmThere’s this psychological concept called “Projection”. It’s a phenomenon where a person projects his own failings — say, fear — onto others as a means of controlling them.
I hear that a qualified therapist can work wonders.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Nice rebuttal! Can’t touch it!
June 29th, 2009 at 5:53 pmIt must be nice to be able to afford acting so irresponsibly. Good thing McCain lost. If he were actually President he would have a lot more to worry about.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pmIt’s hard to hear what Jung Publican is saying with Crowder’s member in his mouth….
June 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
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The Young Republican Says:
“The libs are scared they are losing their youth vote to the conservative republicans.”
yeah, because grampy mclame really appealed to the 40 and under set.
Most young people have little knowledge of how the world works, that is why the “under 40 ” crowd used to vote dem. Now that obama is screwing things up so much, us youngis are seeing the light. We have been brainwashed by the liberal media.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pmTake your fantasies elswhere, maggot.
June 29th, 2009 at 5:57 pmI wouldn’t worry too much about Young Rep’s “youngis”…
They’re probably only allowed out of the home on special field trips. I hear last month they went to see how Dunkin’ Donuts are made.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:01 pmNot your call to make, troll.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Progressive hypocrisy on full display, again.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:06 pmPeter Orszag — now Mr. Obama’s budget director — told Congress last year that “Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program.”
June 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pmMore plagiarizing?
Can we get better trolls please? The ones we have now are too stupid.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:11 pmThis is another example of Republicans complaining about a weakened policy that was already designed to compromise on their behalf.
I’d prefer direct carbon taxes to cap-and-trade anyways. The real problem with cap-and-trade is that it creates a secondary trading market, the value of which is wildly variable and constrained by competing economic exchanges. It just creates another complicated “asset” that can be manipulated in complicated ways to allow the few to cheat at the expense of the many.
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…it’s laws and sausages…
Maybe you’re in the wrong line of work, Senator. If you don’t want to do the work of making law, I’m sure Arizona will find somebody else who’s willing to.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pmReally, perhaps you should have watched election night on something other than Fox News and seen the crowd in Chicago. OR maybe you could have watched the inauguration. Then you wouldn’t sound quite so incredibly stupid.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:22 pmLook how angry republicans hate facts is. Why are libs so angry all the time? Is it because they are stupid?
June 29th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThe Young Republican Says:
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climate change is a LIE.
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Conservatives have a mental illness
“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation”
June 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pmHerbert Spencer
… says the big-brained wingnut who generalizes the behavior of a single anonymous poster and seeks to apply it to an entire political ethos.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:44 pmThe conservatives are monumentally stupid and monumentally inept.
McCain is just a poor looser.
June 29th, 2009 at 6:52 pmGive Grampa McBomb a nice set of golf clubs and a membership to the Mustang Ranch. The old fool needs to retire.
Why would someone who claims to truly love this country risk the safety and security of its citizens by allowing a cretin like Sarah Palin to get so dangerously close to the levers of power?
June 29th, 2009 at 7:07 pmTax his asss.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pmMcCain need to learn how to read polls. Reinforcing the GOP as the party of no is a sure loser if ever there is one. He is so much like Bush in one respect; he doggedly goes with his gut.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:59 pmMcCain changes mind.
McCain does one thing and says he did the other.
Water is wet.
Now please see if you can find the recipe for ice.
June 30th, 2009 at 1:05 amThe Young Republican Says:
Why are libs so angry all the time? Is it because they are stupid?
No, it’s because stupid people (aka. “conservatives”) keep trying to destroy our country. They are traitors to everything the U.S.A. has ever stood for, and they are trying to dismantle its ideals and turn our country into a sick parody of everything it is not. We are angry because we are American patriots. We are angry at you specifically because you advocate treason.
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Ghost Walker373 Says:
as long as Libs keep on killing unborn babies…
There’s no such thing as an “unborn baby.”
June 30th, 2009 at 1:13 amMcCain is such an ass.
June 30th, 2009 at 2:01 amdispleased, repelled, scandalized, annoyed, exasperated, troubled, pestered, bedeviled, disturbed, plagued, disbelieving, irritated—
but not angry. Don’t have time for anger.
June 30th, 2009 at 2:28 amSome testimony from doctors
link
June 30th, 2009 at 2:33 amThat’s just McCain going all mavericky. You never can tell what he’s going to support from one day to the next. Some call it pandering, some call it opportunistic posturing, but all McCain knows is that it brings in the bri-, er, political contributions.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:16 amIn the 70’s we were all told to get ready here comes global cooling, that theory was debunked in the 80’s. Then in the 90’s we were told here comes global warming. That too is turning out to be just a crock. now they just say “climate change”. Ha what a bunch of junk. This is just nothing more than the governments attempt to gain more control over business, economy and our private lives. And us suckers to foot the bill.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:07 amHow’s that for uninformed “republicans hate facts”? I think I’ve touched on all of your style. Facts plus name calling, I guess that is called “debate” in your book.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:26 am