I urge all of you proponent of universal health care to actively look at the problems of those that currently have it. Don’t go blindly to where many countries are re-thinking, and many citizens want out.

http://www.heartland.org/suites/health%20care/.

As to republicans hate facts…
We ALREADY *ARE* paying for it d*ckhead! How do you think those emergency room bills get paid for people with no PREVENTATIVE (LESS EXPENSIVE) insurance

Your right we are. Every time someone goes into an emergency room to be treated for a cold. In my state since 1992, 25 hospitals have closed. Why? Well a big part of the problem is the $275 to $300 million annually (in my state alone) caring for undocumented immigrants that hospitals don’t get reimbursed. How about we start by enforcing immigration policy instead of draining our economic resources?

And over 90% of that came from *REPUBLICAN* PRIORITIES like a NEEDLESS WAR of OIL and EGO in Iraq.

Oh I always love this one….Needless war of oil. Well needless war is a debate in itself… as for a war for oil. You really need to get a new war chant that’s getting old. But hey lets talk of oil a second…I know that has become the poster child of your cause. Where do you think, in this day and age, we would be with no oil. No cars to go to work, no trains or trucks to move goods and food. no Planes flying, no plastics being made. Our Country would come to a complete standstill. You are so childlike in your beliefs that if we just do away with oil we’d all be OK. Without oil, right now anyway, our society would break down in a matter of days you dope.

Will we just keep printing money until its worthless? How much more taxes can the public bear?

It WORKED for BUSH, BUSH, RAYGUN, FORD, NIXON – why do you care *NOW* – you HYPOCRITICAL J*CK*SS.

Wow, great argument for someone who’s supposed to be so intelligent. Its only hypocritical if I supported the others. when it came to our debt I didn’t support what they did either. And you forgot Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Obama. I guess that was just an oversight.

callcongress.org
which has these phone #:
1 (800) 828 – 0498
1 (800) 614 – 2803
1 (866) 340 – 9281
1 (866) 338 – 1015
1 (877) 851 – 6437
then went here:
elected Official site

No one with the exception of the switchboard operators are answering the phone. Wyden’s office asked me to leave a message and someone will get back to me. No live voice to talk to. May I suggest WE ALL begin writing letters, as I have heard one written letter is worth 10 people calling in. The above site has addresses.

A strong public option must be included in the final bill.

health reform is not getting past, basically, what the

president and the democrats are telling us is that the

politicians of this country are much stupider than the

politicians of all the other industrialized countries.

Maybe, that needs to be pointed out to them.

capitalism creates a very selfish and materialistic society that will self destruct

we are seeing that self destruction now in many aspects of american lives.

karma will do its thing it wont be pretty but it cannot be stopped

profits over people that is the capitalism way

christianity died on the cross

the most christian nation and the only industrialized nation without universal health care.

again christianity died on the cross

the demos will let the repubs define them

all demos and repubs will line up for money next year from the insurance and drug corps.

drain the swamp only way out of this crisis.

But whatsoever it is, Obama will sign it, and it will be universally greeted as the next best thing to the return of the baby Jeezus!

Not if the Titanic sailed into NYC harbor will or would there be such an exaltation of miraculous, triumphal rhetoric….

and it won’t mean shit of it doesnt redress the inequities of Medicare part 5 and/or rescind the Bushevik’s deal with the pharmaceuticals that prohibits the government from negotiating the best deal.

Those seem to me to be benchmarks. The ‘public option’ was only on the table as a cynical negotiating chip. That phukker Obama only mentions it so it looks like he’s giving something away to the right that was never an oprion in the first place.

Anybody who continues to voluntarily participate in this charade, this extravagant and deadly kabuki, needs theire head examined.

I’m gonna shriek and shout and make a goddam fool of myself in public, but I am through with the “process.”

Scroom awl…

Users of the internet, it’s time to move to the next level. We are not weak. We are not uninformed. 72%

72%

Tim Vaculik swore in the thread below that Obama would give us a single payer system. He swore that Obama said that during the campaign, in no uncertain terms. He swore that single payer was Obama’s ultimate secret plan, undocumented by the alphabet news organizations.

Turns out Tim Vaculik is a g*dd*mn*d f**king liar. Turns out Tim Vaculik is a troll WorldNet Daily nutjob who is convinced that Canadians have to wait 9 months for lifesaving procedures. Turns out I was p*wned by a neocon compassionate conservative who told ME to run and get the evidence to support HIS lies.

F**k you raw, Tim Vaculik. I never should have given you the benefit of the doubt, and I hereby retract my apology and kind words to you.

Post of day.

Incredible. Thank you for sharing this story.

Wake up, America! We’ve been lulled to sleep by warm words and pretty promises.

What’s your life worth today?
Don’t bother calculating; others will do that for you…for a fee, of course.

Blood work was ordered in advance of the cardiologist visit set for Friday. He was to fast overnight, see the cardiologist and then get his blood drawn. Seems to be progressing, eh?

Well, only until he sat down in the LabCorp office to get his blood drawn. The LabCorp employee typed in my husband’s Social Security Number, and promptly told him he could not have his blood drawn or have his test administered until he cleared up his old bill with LabCorp. The bill? $7. That’s right — $7.

And my husband has been covered by insurance for many years. But now he sat – post myocardial infarction or heart attack – being told by a laboratory employee that he would be denied care due to an unpaid $7 bill. He did not have $7 with him. He was fasting. He tried to explain. They did not budge. They did call the supervisor. She confirmed and stood her ground for LabCorp. No test for Larry Smith. He owes $7.

David King, the CEO of LabCorp, made $8.2 million in 2008. He’s one of the people and LabCorp is one of the companies President Obama is celebrating who will help transform our nation’s healthcare system. Indeed. And LabCorp’s political participation committee donated funds to several candidates in 2008, including Sen. Max Baucus and Sen. Charles Grassley, both of the Senate Finance Committee that is working on the nation’s healthcare reform.

So what was his life worth? $7.

Good question, Mom.
He was on the Ed Schultz show recently, supporting the public option. The reason we don’t see much of him, is Rahm knows damn well Dr. Dean will tell the truth, not wallow in political dung.

The ‘enemy’ here isn’t based on fact, it’s based on politics, big business and campaign donations.

He wouldn’t have capitulated on the public option. I’d like to kick Rahm’s butt.

PEACE