Bachmann Lies About Census’ American Community Survey, Claims It Doesn’t Ask About Citizenship
Bachmann Lies About Census’ American Community Survey, Claims It Doesn’t Ask About Citizenship
As ThinkProgress has previously noted, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has been fearmongering about the 2010 Census and bragging that she plans to break the law by refusing to answer it. “I know for my family, the only question we will be answering is how many people are in our home. We won’t be answering any information beyond that,” said Bachmann recently.
On Sean Hannity’s radio show yesterday, Bachmann continued to attack the Census, repeatedly insisting that people should go to her website to “see the Census form for themselves.” Listing off a few questions from the American Community Survey (a long-form survey sent out to one in 40 households each year) that she considers invasive, Bachmann claimed that it doesn’t ask “are you an American citizen”:
BACHMANN: Twenty-eight pages. Sean, you know the one question they don’t ask? They don’t ask, “are you an American citizen?” They don’t ask if you’re here on a visa or when it expires. We have no real idea how many illegal aliens are in our country. But wouldn’t you think, here they are asking every personal question about our lives, they could at least ask if we’re an American citizen? They don’t bother to ask for that. That’s why I think people need to read this census for themselves. If you go to my website, michelebachmann, you can read it.
Listen here:
In fact, the American Community Survey does ask about U.S. citizenship and it has since 1890:
Additionally, though Bachmann repeatedly directed Hannity’s listeners to her website, michelebachmnann.com, in order to view the Census questions, the questions aren’t actually available on her website. A press release on her congressional website, however, does encourage citizens to read the Census and ACS questions. Apparently Bachmann has yet to take her own advice.
Transcript:
HANNITY: And Congresswoman, credit to you. I mean, you’re out there and you’ve become a target by the Democrats because of your outspokenness and your willingness to take on the administration. A lot of press was made over the fact that you said, “well, I’m only going to give pertinent constitutional information as it relates to the census.” What’s the status on that?BACHMANN: Well, the Democrats are trying to make a lot out of this because at my website, Michelebachmann.com, I’ve invited people from all over the United States to come and sign the ACORN petition to get ACORN out of conducting the census. And then I’ve also stated that as for my family and myself, we are not comfortable telling the administration every intricate detail of our life. If a person goes to my website at michelebachmann.com, they can see the census form for themselves. There’s a short form and a long form. On the long form, and recognize that the federal government says unless you answer every question, you’ll be subject to a fine. So the federal government will fine you if you don’t answer the questions.
HANNITY: Give us some of the example of the intrusive questions. We’ve gone over this some time ago and some of the questions that you don’t like.
BACHMANN: Well, they ask you your phone number. They want to know how many times you’ve given live birth. How many times you’ve been married. How many bathrooms are in your home. They want to know what time you leave your house in the morning to go to work. The hour and the minute. What time you come back from work. The hour and the minute. Your age, your race, your sex. And not only just for you, but for every person that lives in your house. Twenty-eight pages. Sean, you know the one question they don’t ask? They don’t ask, “are you an American citizen?” They don’t ask if you’re here on a visa or when it expires. We have no real idea how many illegal aliens are in our country. But wouldn’t you think, here they are asking every personal question about our lives, they could at least ask if we’re an American citizen? They don’t bother to ask for that. That’s why I think people need to read this census for themselves. If you go to my website, michelebachmann, you can read it.
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And it is sad to see that on the Tribune web site many Minnesotans are buying into her proposition.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:05 pmIt’s 28 pages, and she couldn’t read it all the way through even though she her main point was about what it did, and didn’t, contain?
I don’t think Batshit Bachmann would make it through “My Pet Goat”.
PEACE
June 30th, 2009 at 8:06 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
Another dumb smearing article by the Democratic funded CAP hookers…keep up the good work and crank those useless article out.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:06 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
FreeMarketLiberal Says:
John Podesta just got a message from the White House…you’re not smearing the Republicans enough…keep cranking out more radical fear-mongering articles.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
***
cry me a river.
:)
June 30th, 2009 at 8:10 pmSo if the Census doesn’t have the question EXACTLY like Ms. Bachmann wants it, it should be grounds for her not to fill it out?
Well, if that’s the case, I refuse to fill out my Census in 2010, since it’s not asking me how big my…pen is.
And it’s pretty big, if I must say. Can write all day with that bad boy.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:14 pmMan someone help me I can’t get the Loony Tunes theme out of my head every time I read about her….
De det de dee Thats All Folks!
June 30th, 2009 at 8:15 pmjoe cantwell Says:
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cry me a river.
:)
Hey, joe.
Did Mr. Soros and Mr. Podesta send you your weekly paycheck yet?
Mine bounced.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:18 pmfreemarketliberal
are you saying that its a good thing for elected officials to go on national television and lie?
are you saying that no one should be held accountable for the lies they tell in a public forum?
perhaps you don’t understand what smearing is
its not smear if you’re simply stating what was said.
surely bachmann’s statements are unbelievably stupid
surely they are also delusional
but TP is not smearing her in any way, they’re simply holding her accountable for telling a lie on national television
but apparently you don’t think there should be any accountability for politicians
you’re an idiot
June 30th, 2009 at 8:19 pm…
purp,
in god we trust.
all other pay cash!
:)
…
fml,
1) crap in your hat.
2) pull it down over your ears.
:|
:) :)
June 30th, 2009 at 8:19 pm…
other = others
…
June 30th, 2009 at 8:22 pmInnocent people are being slaughtered and all the 21% liberals want to do is split hairs over what anyone who disagress w/them says……..
June 30th, 2009 at 8:36 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
You’re so damn funny.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:41 pmRLF,
I hope this does not come as a surprise, but, you do know that you are a MORON, right?
FOADYPPOS
June 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pmI’m a, sometimes, proud Minnesotan from a few blocks outside Crazy Shelly’s District and found an interesting article about how the local “librul media” has given her a pass. Thankfully her national reputation for batscat is coming home.
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/2009/06/have-we-reached-truth-about-bachmann.html
June 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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Innocent people are being slaughtered and all the 21% liberals want to do is split hairs over what anyone who disagress w/them says……..
June 30th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
You mean like Iraqis , jackass ?
Why did a Republican president , the worst in US history , order an (illegal) invasion of it then ?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pmBachman should spend some time reading the census questions instead of flapping her lips. But then again, Bachman is about getting attention. It doesn’t matter if it is positive or negative. To her, all publicity is good. The press needs to start ignoring her.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:43 pmFreeMarketLiberal, been wondering.
What do you not like about the Census?
Being serious here.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:43 pmnot sure what the 21% means, but she is an elected official on Fox News, lying about what the census does and does not have as a question. This is not about a disagreement, this is about a fact and she is being busted for being the moronic buffoon she really is…make sense now?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:43 pmRepublicans don’t need to be smeared. They do it to themselves. With idiots like Coleman and Bachmann and Vitter and Mr. Widestance and “Gov. no stimulus SC” etc. etc. smearing their own excrement all over themselves…
June 30th, 2009 at 8:45 pmWhat is Bachman afraid of? What is she trying to hide? Is she having an affair?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pmMost of the innocent people being slaughtered, in the parts of the world the Reichwhiners care about, are being slaughtered in pursuit of the goals of Crazy Shelly’s political allies.
She’s a very dangerous person and anything that exposes her extremist agenda is a public service. Our stupid pet trolls may not care if a certifiable lunatic has a vote in Congress but real patriots do. We want her out.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pmWhy is it that left-wing do-badders seem always to have second careers in academia?
Because all the burger flipping positions have been filled by racist righties?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pmI’d like to tattoo the 2010 Census form to Bachmann’s forehead. Maybe then she’d stop lying about it.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pmI really like the new Report Abuse features. Thanks, TP.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pmCats r Flyfishn Says:
What is Bachman afraid of? What is she trying to hide? Is she having an affair?
No. She’s afraid that she’ll be locked up, strapped down, and forcibly medicated.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:47 pmConservative: 41% (29%)
June 30th, 2009 at 8:48 pmModerate: 41% (50%)
Liberal: 18% (20%)
FreeMarketLiberal Says:
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The Radical far left agenda is to teach teach teach in college.
Why is it that left-wing do-badders seem always to have second careers in academia?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Because FOX News jobs are all reserved for right-wing do-badders , which seems to be an infinite number………..
June 30th, 2009 at 8:48 pmBachmann is against the Census, but for illegal wiretapping of US citizens? No logical position that I can discern.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:49 pmRepublican: 21%
June 30th, 2009 at 8:50 pmEverything but Republican: 79%
but for illegal wiretapping of US citizens?
You mean like obama? :)
June 30th, 2009 at 8:50 pmIf the NSA is doing its job, then surely Bachman must know that the government already has all the information about her.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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Conservative: 41% (29%)
Moderate: 41% (50%)
Liberal: 18% (20%)
June 30th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Thank you for revealing the number of those with sub-average intelligence in the US , which appears to be at 29%……..
June 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pmColbert may have said it best: “… she’s going to report a lot of people at her house because she’s going to count the voices in her head.”
June 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pmFreemarketLiberal, what do you not like about the Census?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pmfrom the Freemflibberty Dictionary:
“Dumb smear” : factually supported statement that thoroughly and irrefutably contradicts a Republican’s unsupported statement.
“Free Market Liberal” : a coagulation of snot that types words it doesn’t understand.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:52 pmObama, sounding on Friday a lot like Bush, said: “Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay.”
Here’s what Bush said the same day as Obama: The bill “allows our intelligence professionals to quickly and effectively monitor the plans of terrorists abroad, while protecting the liberties of Americans here at home.”
June 30th, 2009 at 8:52 pmAny single ACORN volunteer has done more good for this country than all of Bachmann’s lunacy combined.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:53 pmAlright RLF I’ll bite, are those the percentages of closet homosexual congressman?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:53 pmRepublicans Blow Goats
Does your boyfriend know lifting someone else’s Oct 2008 comment from a pathetic blog is dishonest?
And cross posting at several threads is just a pathetic cry for negative attention.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:54 pmRLF is for wiretapping when Bush does it, but against it when Obama continues the policy.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:54 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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Obama, sounding on Friday a lot like Bush, said: “Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay.”
Here’s what Bush said the same day as Obama: The bill “allows our intelligence professionals to quickly and effectively monitor the plans of terrorists abroad, while protecting the liberties of Americans here at home.”
June 30th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
The “slight difference” is that Bush was lying about Americans having their liberties protected……….
June 30th, 2009 at 8:55 pmIf colleges and universitites are left leaning I suspect it must be the magical invisible hand of the market which is responding to the desires of the consumers…
June 30th, 2009 at 8:55 pmJ$,
June 30th, 2009 at 8:56 pmRLF does not know any better. It’s a MORON.
jb Says:
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RLF is for wiretapping when Bush does it, but against it when Obama continues the policy.
Actually, I’m for it either way.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:57 pmBill Ayers would make a much better Congressional Representative than Ding-a-ling Bachmann.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:57 pmWhy is it that left-wing do-badders seem always to have second careers in academia?
Because all the burger-flipping positions have been filled by racist Righties?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pmjb says, “Republicans don’t need to be smeared. They do it to themselves. With idiots like Coleman and Bachmann and Vitter and Mr. Widestance and “Gov. no stimulus SC” etc. etc.”
You can add John Ensign (R-nails his coworkers wives-Nevada) to your list. There are so many sex-crazy Republican hypocrites coming out of the closet, it’s hard to keep track of them.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
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Thank you for revealing the number of those with sub-average intelligence in the US , which appears to be at 29%……..
And those that go to College to buy intelligence meets the radical left wing agenda!
The radical left wing agenda is to brainwash College students into thinking your radical point of views.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
As opposed to your radical points of view , which you accumulated by mindlessly and blindly believing habitual liars and morons like Limbaugh , Hannity , and the garbage GOP………..
June 30th, 2009 at 8:59 pmRush and Hannity are respectively No. 1 and No. 2 on the radio. Savage usually comes in a close 3rd.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:01 pmRadio is soooo 1930’s.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:02 pmThese sockpuppets are broken beyond repair. They’ve been reduced to whoopee cushions.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:03 pmFrom the Freemflibberty Dickopedia:
“Bill Ayers” : a question on a national census but particular to Minnesota
“Timothy McVeigh” a mass murderer denied an academic position by Democrats.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:03 pmSo Freemarketliberal, you are claiming the mass murderer of Oklahoma as someone someone cut from the same political cloth as you? You agree that killing children is a legitimate form protest do you? Would you like to tell the FBI your views?
FreeMarketLiberal Says:
The radical left wing agenda is to brainwash College students into thinking your radical point of views.
Blah blah blah. This wasn’t worth one comment much less repeating yourself over and over on different threads. You’re babbling.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pmnot to hard to be numbers 1,2 and 3 when you are the only talk radio on the dial
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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Rush and Hannity are respectively No. 1 and No. 2 on the radio. Savage usually comes in a close 3rd.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Thank you for pointing out that there is certainly no accounting for taste ………..Which further reveals that being popular and being intelligent and/or correct are not mutaually exclusive , and in this instance , not even in the same universe………….
June 30th, 2009 at 9:05 pmRepublicans Blow Goats
Bloated Limpo, the King of the GOPiggies.
Coward KKKlannity that pals around with domestic terrorists.
Dr. Weiners, internationally rejected hate monger.
ROFLMAO!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:05 pmRush, Hannity, Savage Weiner, Eichmann, Tokyo Rose all cut from the same cloth.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pmdbadass Says: If colleges and universitites are left leaning I suspect it must be the magical invisible hand of the market which is responding to the desires of the consumers…
Or it could be that people who understand what words mean are more effective at filling out applications and loan forms and what not..
June 30th, 2009 at 9:07 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
John Podesta just got a message from the White House…you’re not smearing the Republicans enough…keep cranking out more radical fear-mongering articles.
FreeMarketLiberal, in response to you,I have just two words: DICK CHENEY!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pmjb Says:
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Rush, Hannity, Savage Weiner, Eichmann, Tokyo Rose all cut from the same cloth.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
In Limbaugh’s case , that’s certainly a lot of cloth ………
There are circus tents that take a helluva lot less to construct……
June 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pmHi FreeMarketLiberal
June 30th, 2009 at 9:11 pmMichele Bachmann and Glen Beck are having a problem with facts today, or any day it seems like. If Bachmann was my representive I would be shakeing my head, how can someone be so stupid not to check the facts before you speak. In Becks case, the facts are just a formality.
It is painfully clear what happened to the Republicans for 8 years.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:12 pmRepublicans Love Facts says, “Rush and Hannity are respectively No. 1 and No. 2 on the radio.”
It’s sad to think that there are so many hateful, racist, unpatriotic, terrorist loving Republicans in America who listen to Limdick and Handjob.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:14 pmLies and wacko theories and grandstanding is all the GOP has left. Their trickle down Corporate Welfare State has run aground and only the most blinded ideologues remain on board.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:14 pmShe didn’t lie.
She just isn’t capable of understanding the high-level obfusicating words:
Are you a citizen ?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:15 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says: 5th Estate.. Would you like some KY with that far left loon SPIN of an assesment of yours?
Only if if you can spare an unopened jar from your End Times hoard in your your bunker, freemflibberty.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:15 pm68 FReeperLoon
Careful there, your boyfriend Republicans Blow Goats may not take too kindly to your going around offering hand jobs.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pmClearly this woman is insane. And by insane, I mean certifiably, cuckoo, knife-wielding insane and not an affably, eccentric insanity. If I was running against her in the congressional district I would have to employ the insanity offense because there’s just no other explanation _ unless the Republican Party is actively recruiting from criminally insane hospitals (which, sadly, wouldn’t surprise me).
June 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pmWhat;s your point?
Are you suggesting that ratings success for these gentlemen is evidence of the triumph of the conservative message in the marketplace of ideas?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pmAt least Minnesota now has a fine Senator.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:19 pm…
rlf,
senator al franken.
:)
i enjoy your suffering.
carry on.
:) :) :)
June 30th, 2009 at 9:19 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says: The radical left wing agenda is to brainwash College students into thinking your radical point of views.
Really! The bastards! I’ll sue them for copyright! Do you have the address of the radical left wing agenda by any chance?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:19 pm…
fml,
spam don’t make it so…
:)
carry on.
:0
June 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pmWhat a liar.
She is a liar right, or where does she get her information?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:23 pmWe should thank our pet trolls for confirming that they share the same contempt for intellectuals as folks like Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. And they have the gall to call their political opponents “fascist” and/or “communists”?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:24 pmFreeMarketLiberal, just so I understand what you’re saying, are you making an equivalency between crimes committed by Bill Ayers and crimes committed by Tim McVeigh?
McVeigh murdered 168 people.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:24 pmThank you for sharing your great support Muhabbet | sohbet
June 30th, 2009 at 9:25 pmShe wouldn’t be much of a wingnut if she let the facts get in the way of her ill informed rants, would she?
I love how she seems simultaneously upset that the census data could be used to round up a minority and that the census data isn’t being used to round up immigrants.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:26 pmApe-Man Says:
What a liar.
She is a liar right, or where does she get her information?
I’m guessing her hubby first, her preacher second, and ReichRadio third. Plus the voices in her head and various televangelists in no particular order.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:26 pmIf God is speaking through Bachmann, God is a dumbshit.
PEACE
June 30th, 2009 at 9:30 pmThis constant scapegoating of ACORN is just bizarre. It reminds me of the way Republicans acted towards the ACLU in the early 90’s. I would think that a volunteer organization that does things like registering people to vote and helping to conduct the census would be viewed as a pretty patriotic group. And I would wonder about the possible anti-American leanings of people who found it politically favorable to make baseless accusations against such a group.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:31 pm“She wouldn’t be much of a wingnut if she let the facts get in the way of her ill informed rants, would she?”
Sorry, but when I read this I couldn’t help thinking of this from Monty Python: “If we took out the bones, it wouldn’t be crunchy!”
June 30th, 2009 at 9:31 pm82 Trollspotter
FReeperLoon is not making any points.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:32 pmHe lifted that Oct 2008 comment from a pathetic RW nut blog.
He is so retarded he is still throwing tantrums about a non issue.
The unfortunate truth is that, relatively, powerful people who are paranoid about being locked up tend to have plans to lock up those they find “different” to allay their paranoia.
And that doesn’t even address the terrifying fact that she is an end times fanatic. We really need a law that establishes anyone who Believes the World will end in his/her lifetime should be barred from public service. How can someone plan for the future if they don’t think there is a future?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:34 pm…
“In the last five months, we have witnessed successful elections in Afghanistan, the Palestinian Territory and Iraq; peaceful demonstrations on the streets of Beirut; and steps toward democratic reform in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The trend is clear: In the Middle East and throughout the world, freedom is on the march.”
- george w. bush, radio address, march 5, 2005
†††
and today it marched into minnesota too!
:)
June 30th, 2009 at 9:35 pmYou know, TPers shouldn’t be so hard-assed – it just takes some people longer (in Bachman’s case, about 120 years) to absorb information like what it actually says on the census.
C’mon, progressives, show a little charity…
June 30th, 2009 at 9:47 pmIf Freem would just take a break from spanking the monkey over Michelle Bachmann, actually learn what words mean, learn the difference between slogans and arguments, he could maybe get into a college where he could then thwart my radical brainwashing plan that the far-left liberal agenda is using without my permission.
And then he could take over the Dean’s office and give mass murderer Tim McVeigh tenure.
But I guess he’s needs to clear it with Bill O’Reilly first, with whom he must be great friends, otherwise why would FreeM be using Bill’s “far left loon” trademark?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:48 pmI wonder if Michelle believes the world is only 6,ooo years old? Today(I’m not sure) scientist from around the world went to the Creation Museum. To put it lightly, they were astonisheed. I hope they think all Americans aren’t that stupid.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:55 pmFreeMarketLiberal sez: The prime question to ask is this: How is it that Bill Ayers, a self-admitted unrepentant terrorist, got hired by the University of Chicago?
And how is it that Kkkkarl Rove, a self-delusional liar and unadmitted domestic terrorist who outed an undercover CIA operative (treason, according to the Constitution) has targeted for smears and falsehoods each and every candidate who ever ran against Dubya or other equally inept Rethuglicans, got hired by Faux News as an ‘expert” on politics and (ACK!ACK!) Rethuglican “Family values” (Jeff Gannon, anybody? plus Craig, Foley, Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, too many to remember….all of whom have not had the “values” to resign–and have literally been applauded by their (R) colleagues on the senate floor and at the weekly Rrthug luncheon.) And Sanford is still babbling. Somehow I think that sort of dims your outrage. Nice try, though.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:56 pm@ FreeMarketLiberal – do you know anything about the Weather Underground, the SDS or what these people stood for?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:02 pmEverywhere one looks these days, there are nothing but black
faces staring back from TV, websites, advertisements junkmail. You name it, there’s a black face on it. Even children’s cartoons in predominantly white areas are now featuring hastily constructed black characters. Seemingly overnight, the socialist liberal traitors have succeeded where blacks did not – they have marginalized and trivialized whitey.
How did this happen? The largest population group in the United States of America has lost it’s spine. Yes, white people in America no longer have a single spine between the entire lot of them. They have allowed the media and public schools to hammer them into submission with politically correct indoctrination of themselves and their children. Did they protest, fight or object? No, they caved in without even a whimper. Sticks and stones, Whitey. Had Whitey taken to the blogs with any shred of courage, CNN, CBS, MSNBC and ABC might well be going under instead of the venerable newspapers who are vanishing at the rate of one per week.
The millions who sacrificed their lives to build America are
spinning in their graves. What a disgrace. Being an American used to mean something, something special. It symbolized the strong, the brave, the indomitable force that nothing could withstand. They were revered the world over for their freedoms, their minimally corrupt government, and their
penchant for taking on the impossible with inevitable success. Everyone on the planet wanted to be an American.
Today, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools. How did it come to this? The reasons are many, most unspoken for fear of peer criticism. Free speech, one of the most important rights of the American citizen, has been effectively neutered by the American media. It didn’t have to be that way, not in a capitalist society. If Americans cared, they could bend the media like a reed in the wind by expressing their discontent with media sponsors. A little sacrifice here and there, a little time, and not spending their money with those sponsors could put them both on their heels in less than a year. Americans simply don’t have the discipline to see something like that through. Most modern day Americans are weak and cowardly.They have more interest in fag or freak shows on television than their own person.
Free America is over. Corporate America, liberals, and a now
highly corrupt federal government have sold the entire country into slavery for 100 years. Americans stood by and watched it happen.
Shame on all of you
June 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pmToday, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools. How did it come to this?
Offhand I’m thinking that it might have something to do with the fact that GWB was elected TWICE.
I suspect that there may be many more reasons.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pmYoung Republican- grow up.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pmCould you be a bit more racist, TYR?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:09 pmHow come we can get any amusing parodies? Racial parody still just reads as dumb f uck shit…
June 30th, 2009 at 10:09 pmYoung Republican
WOW, just WOW! I am almost rendered speechless by your unbridled hubristic nationalism.
Wanna know how we came to be the most hated on the planet? George W. Bush and DICK Cheney.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:12 pmI’m extremely protective of free speech rights, but there has got to be some way to legally pursue Fox News for falsely presenting itself as a news outlet and disseminating hateful propaganda. Anyone know if any legal precedent here in the US?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:12 pmIt seems as if Young Republicans are just as racist , stupid and useless as the wrinkled old white ones……….
June 30th, 2009 at 10:13 pmYoung Republican, You can’t be serious. Tis country’s demographics are changing, soon, in a matter of decades, whites will be the minority. What is up with whites beleiveing they are superior? As a white woman, I have no problem with diversity, why do you?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:15 pmWow. What a thread.
Troll dung all over the place.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:15 pmI’d say Hi FreeMarketLiberal again but I would probably get that message about already posting that….
June 30th, 2009 at 10:15 pm…
tyr,
why don’t you go buenos aires
and find your “soul mate”?
:)
:|
June 30th, 2009 at 10:22 pm…
fml,
stealing again, eh?
:)
:)
June 30th, 2009 at 10:24 pmWhere did Young Repug go? I guess he is busy shaming himself. No wait, he’s a Republican.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:25 pm…
and lo and behold
tyr steals too.
:|
not surprisingly
it’s a racist website.
:\
June 30th, 2009 at 10:29 pmAB,@113
June 30th, 2009 at 10:29 pmI agree, and I think the DNC would be a good place to start. I also think the Slogan was not licensed to these numbskulls. So there might be a good legal starting point.
Obama Chia Pet? Jesus! Where was it advertised? Maybe Young Republican is ordering them in bulk.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:33 pmweb_geek Says:
Wow. What a thread.
Troll dung all over the place.
Pathetic, isn’t it? And two of them can’t even come up with relevant dung, but have to post the same stupid racist comments multiple times on different threads. It’s almost as if they got someone else to put together all the hard words for them . . .
June 30th, 2009 at 10:37 pmP.D. Says:
I wonder if Michelle believes the world is only 6,ooo years old? Today(I’m not sure) scientist from around the world went to the Creation Museum. To put it lightly, they were astonisheed. I hope they think all Americans aren’t that stupid.
Oh Nos! We should put together a museum that’s dedicated to science and history to counter that Creation Museum so scientists don’t think all Americans are that stupid!
Wait, we already have them. They are every museum but than the stupid Creation Museum.
PEACE
June 30th, 2009 at 10:39 pmThe dame is pickled beyond all reason. If enough of her constituents refused to answer the census to lower the number of representatives for Minnesota, would that not be a most delicious orgy of schadenfreude? She will have clawed and spit her way out of the job she’s mocking.
Oh—because of that head injury I had when I was seven (the slip-n-slide incident), I accidentally recommended the kid’s comment. That’s why it has two recommends. To make up for it, I gave a recommend to asi.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:39 pmO/T and sure to make the trolls heads explode
EPA grants state (CA) waiver to implement emissions curbs on cars
Ouch!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:41 pmwiley,
June 30th, 2009 at 10:43 pmI give your fauxpaux(sic) make-up a recommend!
Bachmann = crazy paranoid dingbat broad
She must’ve been a snake handler in a past life.
Young Republican needs to be reported to DHS. Better yet call the men in the white coats.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:44 pmspencers mom, you are right. We have excellant museums. I just read though, how conservatives are busing in young children to this museum and telling them lies. It disgusts me.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:46 pmI think that question is only on the Hawaiian cansus form.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:52 pmfrom slashlegal.com
and
newsgroups.derkeiler.com:
>Everywhere one looks these days, there are nothing but black
>faces staring back from TV, websites, advertisements, junkmail.
>You name it, there’s a black face on it. Even children’s
>cartoons in predominantly white areas are now featuring hastily
>constructed black characters. Seemingly overnight, the
>socialist liberal traitors have succeeded where blacks did not -
>they have marginalized and trivialized whitey.
>
>How did this happen? The largest population group in the United
>States of America has lost it’s spine. Yes, white people in
>America no longer have a single spine between the entire lot of
>them. They have allowed the media and public schools to hammer
>them into submission with politically correct indoctrination of
>themselves and their children. Did they protest, fight or
>object? No, they caved in without even a whimper. Sticks and
>stones, Whitey. Had Whitey taken to the blogs with any shred of
>courage, CNN, CBS, MSNBC and ABC might well be going under
>instead of the venerable newspapers who are vanishing at the
>rate of one per week.
>
>The millions who sacrificed their lives to build America are
>spinning in their graves. What a disgrace.
>
>Being an American used to mean something, something special. It
>symbolized the strong, the brave, the indomitable force that
>nothing could withstand. They were revered the world over for
>their freedoms, their minimally corrupt government, and their
>penchant for taking on the impossible with inevitable success.
>Everyone on the planet wanted to be an American.
>
>Today, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools.
>
>How did it come to this? The reasons are many, most unspoken
>for fear of peer criticism. Free speech, one of the most
>important rights of the American citizen, has been effectively
>neutered by the American media. It didn’t have to be that way,
>not in a capitalist society. If Americans cared, they could
>bend the media like a reed in the wind by expressing their
>discontent with media sponsors. A little sacrifice here and
>there, a little time, and not spending their money with those
>sponsors could put them both on their heels in less than a year.
> Americans simply don’t have the discipline to see something
>like that through.
>
>Most modern day Americans are weak and cowardly. They have more
>interest in fag or freak shows on television than their own
>person.
>
>Free America is over. Corporate America, liberals, and a now
>highly corrupt federal government have sold the entire country
>into slavery for 100 years. Americans stood by and watched it
>happen.
>
>Shame on all of you.
***
look familiar?
…
June 30th, 2009 at 10:53 pm,,,
fml,
do you ever think for yourself
or is it all done by remote control?
:)
June 30th, 2009 at 10:55 pmFreeMarketLiberal,
What hand do you use?
Are you a righty or a lefty?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:57 pmIt’s almost as if they got someone else to put together all the hard words for them . . .
Rethuglican talking points…all good little Rethugs and Faux Noise get them every morning (or once a week, if they’re not important enough) from Grover Norquist’s office. That’s why they all sound alike. Do a little experiment: spend one day watching and listening to Rethug pundits (I know, I know..it’ll be pure torture, but quite enlightening) and write down how many times you hear the same twisted ideas and phrases..you will be amazed!.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:58 pmI was going to ask if it were national cut-and-paste day. I see it has been put to good use. Looks like Joe is locked onto the target. TPers you are free to fire. How copy?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:59 pmThe stupid is definitely strong with the trolls tonight.
Racist rants, and obsession with “left wing extremism”?
I suspect these two dimwits are Bachman supporters/voters from Minnesota. What can I say? Truth hurts…
June 30th, 2009 at 11:00 pmThese lost little punks aren’t worth the effort, wiley. They shoot themselves down with each inane, often plagiarized, post.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:01 pmLet’s see. Here in the U.S.A. Rightwing extremists have deliberately assassinated about 60 people, from cops to babies, to make a political statement since the Election. How many have been killed, intentionally, by “leftwing extremists” since, let’s say, 1979?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:05 pmThe troll will do anything to distract from the fact that Bachmann has no clue what in the world she is talking about.
Come to think of it, Bachmann and the troll are two birds of a feather, aren’t they?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:05 pmYeah, those evil leftwing terrorists & their Code Pink allies -breaking into museums and shooting people at random. Oh wait…
June 30th, 2009 at 11:07 pmFreeMarketLiberal Hi…
June 30th, 2009 at 11:07 pmpete,
June 30th, 2009 at 11:09 pmI think it may to treat them with a little humor, best if it’s moronic. They would trip up with anything else!
I must quibble, a bit, Gregor Samsa. The people who voted for Bachmann aren’t bad people. They just aren’t very sophisticated, are inclined to give undue consideration to anyone who avows themselves to be a “good Christian”, and haven’t seen the truth about her if they haven’t looked beyond the local news.
With any luck, her continued bizarre presence on the national scene will finally force the local media to call her on it.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:10 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
Now that the CAP Juveniles have the right wing agenda outlined for you Rosie O’Donnell Micheal Moore worshipping bunch…
So. Let’s return to the definition of a “Leftwing Extremist”: Those who “embrace a number of radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements.”
Animal rights and environmental extremists: “Many of these extremists claim they are conducting these activities on behalf of two of the most active groups, the Animal Liberation Front and its sister organization, the Earth Liberation Front. Other prominent groups include Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty; and chapters within the Animal Defense League, and Earth First!”.
Anarchist extremists: “Anarchist extremist groups include entities within Crimethinc, the Ruckus Society, and Recreate 68.”
—Code Pink (codepink4peace.org) has been less than coy about its contacts with R68.
=============
You actually posted this, what a shame?
That Bachmann syndrome is spreading we gotta contain it before it erupts it’s HAZMAT mouth again ?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:11 pmFreem’s begun to drop the same turds on other threads.
How many more pixels will be abused by him?
So I say rally round the Flag, boys.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:15 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
Pathetic, isn’t it? And two of them can’t even come up with relevant dung, but have to post the same stupid racist comments multiple times on different threads. It’s almost as if they got someone else to put together all the hard words for them . .
LOL @ the “It’s almost as if they got someone else to put together all the hard words for them . .:” part.
It IS pathetic. I just wonder which bullsh|t factory their words came from. ???
June 30th, 2009 at 11:16 pmhi dbadass hi..
/:-)
June 30th, 2009 at 11:16 pmI find it awfully suspect that the DHS defines a Liberal the same way a that basic dumb@ss right wing troll does. I’m thinking this might be boooooooogus
June 30th, 2009 at 11:17 pm5th Estate Says:
Freem’s begun to drop the same turds on other threads.
[...]
So I say rally round the Flag, boys.
Multiple threads. Flag!
June 30th, 2009 at 11:20 pmI favor contempt to humor, wiley. Why waste good jokes on cut-rate sockpuppets?
Though I must admit that the stupid troll’s plagiarized list doesn’t seem to mention the Rightwing anarchists who, while lapping up the message of fools like Crazy Shelly, are amassing arms in the hopes of overthrowing the lawful government of our country.
The people this country needs to be most concerned about are those who are best represented by Crazy Shelly. They are ignorant and childish and would rather wreck all their toys than let anyone else play with them. They just aren’t smart enough, or sane enough, to understand smart, sane, people.
And they are the ones who are sitting on ranches, amassing arsenals, swilling Bud, absorbing every insane rightwing talking point, misquoting the Bible, and vowing to shoot anyone who suggests they pay taxes to help people when there are so many brown people, atheists (including all those who don’t Believe in Jesus including but not limited to Muslims.), and “libruls” left to kill.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:23 pmI received one of these long form surveys recently, and they certainly do ask about citizenship.
Does this b!tch ever think before she speaks? STFU!
June 30th, 2009 at 11:28 pmPETE!
I knew it was all your fault! :D
Oh, make that selectively “misquoting” the HOLEY BIBBLE
June 30th, 2009 at 11:29 pmHey Zooey, sorry I’ve been AWOL lately.
And then I got stuck-in here! But it’s just been a phase.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:31 pm5th Estate Says:
Hey Zooey, sorry I’ve been AWOL lately.
And then I got stuck-in here! But it’s just been a phase.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
I’ll forgive you, if you’ll forgive me. I’m not only AWOL, but off the wall! ;)
June 30th, 2009 at 11:34 pmYoung Repub:
I must admit that what you wrote is a post, the likes of which I rarely see posted. Very seldom is one willing to post such clearly racist, bigoted and hateful material. You do, however, write much better than the barely educated, lower blue collar white guy without any experiences beyond the 10 miles where he grew up that I suspect you are. Am I close???? If you are, indeed, the future of the Republican Party, the future of our country is in serious jeopardy.
May I make a suggestion? Do what few Republicans do: Instead of spending all day on blogs, why not actually DO something for the nation and enlist in the military…by the end of your first 6 months, you’ll have more experience than Cheney, “W”, Newt, Rove, COMBINED.
Only one problem: You’ll have to take orders from people who are not white southern kids. They may be black, or Samoan, or Japanese Americans, or even….women. You’ll have to EARN the right to be on the giving end rather than the receiving end.
But you know what? You’ll have EARNED the right to make a statement. But keep a copy of the one you just wrote. I think after 4 or 5 years or so, you’ll have figured out that what you wrote is a nasty, bigoted, screed that has no place among Americans who actually are Patriots.
How would I know? I’ve served for 20 years. I’ve served under and with some of the bravest men and women in the world…and some are even white! Others may be Wiccans, or Catholics, or blacks, or Jews…you name it–but whatever they are, they’re Americans.
Pr Chris
Good luck. You’ve got a LOT of growing to do.
Pr Chris
June 30th, 2009 at 11:44 pmWas she all about the Shrub and his illegal wiretapping?I don`t recall.As a member of congress she should remember that the census has been going since the inception of this country and at her age(50+)I am sure she has participated in giving uncle Sam the info needed for the census and done it without fear mongering to be sure.Did someone screw her tin hat on? Is that why see can`t get it off ?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:44 pmDOne, Zooey.
And I’m off to bed, and I expect I’ll dream of blaming America and its territories and Dominions, for the things it does and doesn’t do, using harsh, vulgar and intolerant language.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:46 pmchristopher wiwi,
Bachmann practically humped GWB after one of his SOTU addresses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=930gQZmC6iE
Ick.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pm5th Estate Says:
DOne, Zooey.
And I’m off to bed, and I expect I’ll dream of blaming America and its territories and Dominions, for the things it does and doesn’t do, using harsh, vulgar and intolerant language.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Well, who doesn’t? :-D
Goodnight!
June 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pmbarfly Says:
Why is it that left-wing do-badders seem always to have second careers in academia
And convicted criminals are invited as experts on Fox “news” to discuss things they know absolutely nothing about.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:48 pmCalSailor
Nicely done. I’m sure Young Republican is going get that polynoidal cyst on his ass lanced immediately and sign right-up!
and with that, it’s goodnight from me.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:50 pmI just feel so conflicted about being a Minnesotan today. The Supreme Court put a unanimous decision exclamation mark on the oddest, and most widely covered, recount in American history. That’s good.
On the other hand, Crazy Shelly will still have a vote tomorrow.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:50 pmHe didn’t even write it, CalSailor. It was lifted, every word. He’s not just a worthless little punk, he’s an effing thief as well.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:53 pmThe trolls just get dumber and dumber. It’s really pretty scary that so many are so stupid.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:55 pmI’ve just been catching up on the comments and flagging the trolls. I hope that some of this filth gets cleaned up, it really stinks.
Goodnight, everyone (except trolls.)
July 1st, 2009 at 12:00 amZooey, re: #158: That was just bizarre, and I hope she had a sponge in her knickers, because that look on her face was orgasmic (take note, neoCons, because I’m sure you never saw that look on your sweethearts’ faces).
July 1st, 2009 at 12:09 amBachmann is as dumb is the day is long.
She must have fallen out of the stupid-tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Good Lord…
July 1st, 2009 at 12:11 amI just wonder which bullsh|t factory their words came from. ???
Webgeek – It’s the latest Repuke Random Insult Generator. That’s all. Freem’s got hisself a new toy. *eyes rolling*
July 1st, 2009 at 12:13 amShe is a duly elected representative of Minnesota registered voters and is, therefore, a representative voice until, and should, Minnesotans in the 6th District decide otherwise.
If she wants to break the law, so be it. It will give us a chance to see what the DOJ will do.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:17 amHey, FML:
Are you saying liberals don’t love their country? Is it necessary that one must believe that America is perfect in order to love it? Show me where ANYONE of significance in American history (say, before 1950 or so…) who believes that.
Are you saying that we don’t believe in progressive taxation (most of us do…and we’d like it restored. Bush nearly destroyed it, in reducing taxes on the rich. Let’s start, by restoring the tax brackets as they were under Reagan….)
You say that we don’t believe that “capitalism, carefully regulated and progressively taxed…is the best liberal idea in human history.” Well, I most certainly do. The problems we are living with today are the result of a denigration of carefully regulated capitalism. The Right Wing has bet everything on the “dead hand” of the market…and they’ve just learned that it doesn’t work as advertised. So, please, lets get effective regulation back. And, oh, BTW, progressive taxation is great. Let’s get that back, too…see above.
You think that crime and poverty are not the result of the society which forms people while growing up? Then please explain both. If your answer is “evil” , then are you saying that all poor people are evil? Because that’s the corrolation. And You’ll have a hard time proving it.
Yes, most liberals know America is not a democracy. It is a republic, a representative republic. A democracy is a straight, majority rules by direct vote sort of place. The purpose of our laws and courts are, in large part, to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority. (Yes, I know, Michele Bachmann throws the word tyranny around very loosely…that’s not my fault.)
Corporations are not fundamentally evil at all. But should stockholders, who have invested money, be granted greater consideration than labor, who invests the sweat of their hands and brow?
Conspiracies that control the world are the hallmark of the Right-Wing nuts. Ie, poll 100 Republicans on “New World Order” etc., and you’ll find a percentage who probably believe in it. Poll 100 liberals, and 99 have probably never heard of the entire “conspiracy”.
I am not intolerant of good ideas, no matter where they come from…but usually Republicans who rant on these sorts of blogs have few ideas, and even fewer facts.
As to harsh, vulgar, intolerant language…your previous posts are some very good examples of what not to say.
And, as a member of the clergy, and a person of faith, I can tell you that I am not at all dismissive of faith. But my faith is much larger than the issues of gay marriage and abortion. It includes an end to war and capital punishment, issues of justice and equality for all people, the inherent dignity of all people as children of God, and the tasking to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and visit those in prison.
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.” (Dom Helder Camara, Bishop)
Pr chris
July 1st, 2009 at 12:18 amTHIS COMMERCIAL IS OUTRIGHT RACISM AT ITS UGLIEST.
I preferred the Jerry Garcia.
At least he had a huge afro.
Obama, eh, not so much.
The only question is, who is profiting and what are they doing with the money?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:23 amLove that qoute at the end of CalSailors last entry..right on
July 1st, 2009 at 12:27 amI have a standing offer of $1000 to the first person who can actually set forth a plan to “take all the guns” in the US. Like they keep accusing Obama of planning. So far, the offer still stands…
Pr Chris
July 1st, 2009 at 12:30 amThe key to remember here is that Bachmann/Republicans DO NOT win anyone/new voters over by making these outrageous claims. They just look uninformed to the casual voter which most US citizens are. They can make silly statements and create fake controversies but all that they are doing is firing up a base that already agrees with them. The people that believe this stuff prob listened to Rush this morning, Hannity in the afternoon, watched Glen Beck & then caught the O’Riely factor before they went to bed…… This is the echo chamber that lead to Obama winning by 10 million votes last November. Let them have their say & the American people will hash out the details come election time. Lets concentrate on winning 3-4 more Senate seats in 2010 & another presidency in 2012 – essentially, that is all that matters – eyes on the prize folks!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:32 amStewie from the family guy will put on those funky glasses that make people do whaever he says, he will then go on TV, tell every to drop all of there guns to a pre-designated area. Bam..I got..where do I pick up my money :)
July 1st, 2009 at 12:37 amWell, another troll infested thread that cured my insomnia at 1 am.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:39 amTo FML(aka big dummy) via fred g sanford. You really are a big dummy. I mean it.
dtony and lido
If young rethug keeps posting his racist screeds I’d be looking for a vist from the FBE
Pete:
You’e right that I hadn’t caught on to the fact that TYRs quote was stolen from another website. Given the text, probably a similar site to the ones Mr Brunn liked to visit.
TYR. Remember Mr Brunn? Holocaust Museum? Too bad Mr Johns didn’t win that confrontation…but he was out-gunned by the maniac who attacked him. Or are you a Mr Brunn wannabe? If so, the Secret Service might like to talk to you. You can contact them via the White House. They are VERY interested in guys like you. Have a nice conversation.
Pr Chris
July 1st, 2009 at 12:39 amFBI
July 1st, 2009 at 12:40 amJane E. Schneider Says:
——————————————————————————–
I’ve just been catching up on the comments and flagging the trolls.
Such a pleasant life you must lead…….:(
July 1st, 2009 at 12:41 amSuch a pleasant life you must lead…….:(
July 1st, 2009 at 1:00 am–
I’d like to explore this concept
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-three percent (33%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2. That matches the lowest level yet recorded (see trends). More at link…
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ…_tracking_poll
July 1st, 2009 at 1:04 amTYR
Just like you, your link doesn’t work.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:05 amhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
July 1st, 2009 at 1:08 amTYR:
His overall approval rating is still +8 which nearly exactly matches the election results.
Nice try troll but once again you fail miserably.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:12 amOh Snap!
July 1st, 2009 at 1:20 amHere it comes.
Overall, 54% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove. Eighteen percent (18%) say that Congress is doing a good or an excellent job.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:22 am…
tyr’s
racist web site.
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poll that.
:|
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July 1st, 2009 at 1:25 amTo quote Keith Olbermann, “TRY is a big bag of mashed up jacka$$”
July 1st, 2009 at 1:33 amSome people call it an attention seeker, I call it a slingblade…
July 1st, 2009 at 1:38 amThis line is from Chesterton’s first book of essays The Defendant(1901) from the chapter, “A Defence of Patriotism”:
- The “Quotemeister”
July 1st, 2009 at 1:47 amWhat this country really needs is a drugmeister. It is the only way the War on Drugs will be won…
July 1st, 2009 at 1:50 amIn answer to any (progressive or conservative) who questions TP’s rationale in carrying the backwards, frightening, delusional, fear-mongering words of people in power, I point to this particular thread as an example.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:11 amrepugs will politicize everything. Gawd the census isn’t political, you dumb bytch. Don’t fill it out and see where it will get you, silly goose.
Why do they insist on bullshitting everything?
President Obama has nothing to do with the census, dummy.
I bet when the wind blows through her ears, it’s playing Dixie. She is almost like moosey.
Dumb, wrong and loud = repugs
July 1st, 2009 at 2:14 amFML has such an obsession with Bill Ayers. It’s too bad that if he went to Chicago, he would take his gun to the wrong campus. Professor Ayers teaches at the University of Illinois-Chicago, not the University of Chicago. It’s a common mistake made by uneducated GED holders who are unfamiliar with the workings of academia.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:16 amThe topic is the dangerous lies of Michele Bachmann. Focus, trolls, focus!
How does it make you feel inside when Michele sings her siren song of fReichwing buzzwords? Do your tiny manparts get all atingle when she says freedom and liberty and tyranny? Do you wish you were one of her several natural born or foster children so you could nuzzzle against her firm American breast and suckle of the nectar of Evangelibanian hate?
Tell us more so we can understand the thrall of worshipping a crazy-eyed Nazi.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:20 amIn answer to any (progressive or conservative) who questions TP’s rationale in carrying the backwards, frightening, delusional, fear-mongering words of people in power, I point to this particular thread as an example.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:38 amWell, another troll infested thread that cured my insomnia at 1 am.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:46 amTo FML(aka big dummy) via fred g sanford. You really are a big dummy. I mean it.
dtony and lido
If young rethug keeps posting his racist screeds I’d be looking for a vist from the FBE
Is Bachmann a Stepford wife by any chance?
July 1st, 2009 at 3:49 amIn answer to any (progressive or conservative) who questions TP’s rationale in carrying the backwards, frightening.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:43 amAcer Aspire PA-1300-04 Laptop AC Power Adapter
Speaking of Hannity; No he won’t be caught with another woman, or a man, but one day he will get caught beating his meat in his Escalade while listening to a Toby Keith song.
July 1st, 2009 at 5:09 amStudy finds torture is GOOD for you:
July 1st, 2009 at 5:58 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HJDm_x24g
Another Republican bites the dust… They have to know if you are an American citizen… This woman is a nutcase. Michele Bachmann keeps forgetting her prozac meds… Her dementia is showing! :)
July 1st, 2009 at 6:56 amAnd toll booths on toll roads have fart gas monitors that are capable of reconstructing your DNA from microscopic poop particles.
July 1st, 2009 at 7:45 amI bet Michele Bachmann is hiding a girlfriend and tons of drugs down in her basement and this is why she’s freaking out about the Census! She’s got a lot to hide obviously.
July 1st, 2009 at 8:02 amThat stupid cow is emblematic of the repiggie party these days.
The repiggie party is the Party of Stupid.
July 1st, 2009 at 8:31 amFlag Hootoo at 199 for spamming!
July 1st, 2009 at 8:56 amBachmann/Palin in 2012 and we can just clean all the repigs out of office once and for all.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:12 amMs.Bachmann’s refusal to cooperate with the pending census gives her the appearance that she is not proud of her citizenship. That makes her unpatriotic at best and a subversive at worst. Ye gods!
July 1st, 2009 at 9:14 amSo FreeLiberalReport.com never answered my question?
Not surprised.
Selective hearing does that.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:23 amGhost Walker373 Says:
it does not ask if you are a citizen, she is right children, pat thaat girl on the back, and buy her a a dozen big red roses
Well, if those roses are to celebrate “Thanks for the Misinformation” Day, give her two dozen.
Questions in the U.S. Census for 2000
The reason it doesn’t ask “are you an American citizen?” is because the Census asks about each person in the domicile in question. “Person 1″ is “you”, I assume, and “American citizen” is “citizen of the United States”.
Really, are you questioning the contents of the Census as if they were Obama’s birth certificate? Because the question, like the birth certificate, exists and is legitimate.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:30 amThe Young Republican Says:
Everywhere one looks these days…
I took a chunk of your text and put it into Google. Here is the original article. I won’t repeat the title here, but you obviously knew what it was when you copy/pasted from it.
Sorry “white power” dude, nobody’s interested in your filth. You just completely tipped your hand. Go back to Stormfront where you belong.
July 1st, 2009 at 9:52 amWhy isn’t the young repiggie serving in the military in Afghanistan?
July 1st, 2009 at 9:53 amFreemarketliberal @ 17 is so funny. You would think he would do some online research to answer his own question about Bill Ayers, which is very old and has been answered many times, but here it is again:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:58 amBill Ayers is not a terrorist and never has been. He was an anarchist. There is a difference. He killed NO ONE and did not intend to do so. He did property damage to call attention to the illegitimacy of the Vietnam War. Charges against him were completely thrown out when it was shown the FBI did an illegal investigation into his activities. Afterward, Ayers worked in the field of education for years, contributed to his field and is a respected college professor.
Tim McVeigh WAS a terrorist who killed 168 Americans in the worst U.S. domestic terrorism attack until 9/11.
Despite the attempts of the GOP to equate the two during the 2008 campaign, most American voters were intelligent enough to differentiate between them. Any more questions?
Purple State Says:
Well, if those roses are to celebrate “Thanks for the Misinformation” Day, give her two dozen.
Questions in the U.S. Census for 2000
The reason it doesn’t ask “are you an American citizen?” is because the Census asks about each person in the domicile in question. “Person 1″ is “you”, I assume, and “American citizen” is “citizen of the United States”.
Really, are you questioning the contents of the Census as if they were Obama’s birth certificate? Because the question, like the birth certificate, exists and is legitimate.
First of all, if you’re going to post a link to the Census questions, make it the 2010 version, not the 2000 version.
Here is the link to the 2010 Census questions and ACS Survey: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/Questions_Planned_for_the_2010_Census_and_American_Community_Survey.pdf
Once you read the facts, you’ll see that Michele Bachmann is correct in that the Census does not ask if you are an American Citizen.
The Census itself only consists of 10 questions. Questions #1, #2, #4, #5, and #10 are strictly for administrative purposes only. Therefore, you only have to answer 5 questions: #3, #6, #7, #8, and #9
From page 7a regarding the Administrative Questions:
Also, for your information, Hispanic is not considered a Race for the purposes of the Census and Hispanics may identify with any race.
Visit http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/questionnaire.aspx for more information on questions #5 and #6.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:18 amBachmann would be a great poster child for what happens when you DON’T get an education.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:34 amThis woman is more clueless then a speed bump.
What an outrage! They asked if your are a Citizen?!? Don’t they know we are all global citizens?
Hey wait a second….that kinda sounds like don’t ask don’t tell type of policy.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:17 amThis woman is so stupid it’s scary….BUT, she’s fallen for every trap and hic-up that the extreme neonut community has to offer. She is even trying to get rid of her own congressional district (unknown to her obviously) with the encouragement she offers in not filling out the census forms.
Loon Watch takes up so much time nowadays but at least it keeps you laughing…..
July 1st, 2009 at 11:33 am@SleepingGnome
Wow, you really aren’t very good at paying attention, are you?
There are two Census forms – a short one and a long one. The short one asks only a handful of questions, it’s basic goal is to get a headcount, and that’s all the information you are required to provide. This form is sent to every American household. Per your own link, there are 7 questions, not 9, indicating that not only are you stupid, but also incapable of even glancing at the references that you yourself are trying to prove your point with. Stunning, really.
Per YOUR LINK (http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/questionnaire.aspx)
The person in who fills out the form (Person 1) will provide the household information, including whether the home is rented or owned, and will answer just seven questions about every household member, including himself or herself:.
Not making a good case for listening to you, are you, buddy? Seeing as you can’t even be bothered to read your own links, and all.
Now, to what this stupid b!tch is actually talking about, which you seem to have either purposefully or out of just blatant stupidity missed: there is the long form, and yes, it asks you if you are an American citizen. In fact, it’s question number 8 for each person, and it reads “Is this person a citizen of the United States?” It asks the same question for each and every person on listed on the survey.
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics/SQuest/SQuest1.htm
Select “2009 ACS Questionnaire” in whatever language you prefer, open the PDF, flip to page 8, and just effing read it, if you even can.
In conclusion, Bachmann IS NOT correct, and neither are you. She’s a complete moron who is encouraging people to violate federal law, and you are so stupid that you believe her bullshit. Congratulations on being completely gullible, but also so utterly incompetent that you epically failed to read not only the proper forms, but also the forms that you tried to use to bolster your own point.
Sir, you are the shining example of a typical idiot Republican. Congratulations.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:40 am@217
No, it doesn’t. They ask you specifically if you are citizen. Your point fails, your joke fails, you fail.
People who listen to Bachmann regarding ANY topic are morons. It is only amplified when the topic is something that we have all see and/or dealt with before, particularly when a simple Google reveals how stupid you have to be to buy this bullshit. If you’re that idiotic, do us all a favor and DON’T BREED. There’s plenty of stupid people out there already. We don’t need more of them.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:44 amsmidget Says
This form is sent to every American household
I guess that means citizen? Illegal immigrants aren’t Americans by definition.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:53 am@SleepingGnome
Hey there foolio – go to section 3:18
Your lengthy screed about facts takes a serious hit when you obviously haven’t done the homework to corroborate your allegations. Go take a nap.
Schlitweitz!!!
July 1st, 2009 at 11:54 amjrzguy Says:
I guess that means citizen? Illegal immigrants aren’t Americans by definition.
Hey ass-hat, why don’t you educate yourself. Mosey on down to section 3:18
July 1st, 2009 at 11:56 amAlso, the ACS is 14 pages long, not 28 as Ms. Batshit seems to think. Clearly she can’t count any better than she can read.
Not everything she said was wrong, but since I have it open right now, let’s go ahead and fact check her screed, shall we?
Well, they ask you your phone number.
That’s true.
They want to know how many times you’ve given live birth.
No, they don’t. They ask if you’ve given birth within the past 12 months. (Question 24 for each Person)
How many times you’ve been married.
Yep. (Question 22 for each Person)
How many bathrooms are in your home.
No, they don’t. In the Housing section, they do ask how many rooms you have in your home, and they specifically exclude bathrooms from the count. (Question 7 in Housing)
They want to know what time you leave your house in the morning to go to work. The hour and the minute.
That is actually true. They also ask how many minutes it takes you to get to work. That doesn’t surprise me. I mean, I know what the average commute time is, so obviously that info was collected somehow.
What time you come back from work. The hour and the minute.
That’s not true. They don’t ask what time you get home. That did surprise me.
Your age, your race, your sex.
Wow, really? Who would have thought that demographics this intrusive would be on a census, right? I mean, you can clearly determine these things just by looking at someone, so obviously its sensitive personal information…./snark.
Strangely, she didn’t seem to be all that concerned with the copious amount of data and detail they are requesting about annual income and where it comes from. These pieces of information actually ARE sensitive, but she seems to not have enough of an issue about that to mention it. Strange. Race is too personal a question, but how much you make a year and where it comes from is totally cool. What a stupid b!tch.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:59 amWhat does that have to do with you claiming that asking whether or not someone is a citizen parallels to DADT?
Oh, I get it. It doesn’t. You’re just an idiot. *applause*
To answer your question, since you are obviously too lazy to either think it through yourself, if one is not a citizen or in some way registered with the US government, ie “illegal,” then the government has no record of them and therefore doesn’t know they exist, thus they cannot be sent a census form.
Now, I know that it’s difficult to make logical inferences like that when you have your head crammed so far up your ass, but please, try harder in the future, so I don’t have to waste my time educating you.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:03 pmYes, finally we get to employ that scam of an organization “ACORN” to do something constructive. Find out just how many illegal immigrants there are, where they are and send them home.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pmwell, hopefully someday send them home.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:14 pmjrzguy Says:
well, hopefully someday send them home.
We should send them to New Jersey, so at least there would be some people in the state willing to work hard.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:29 pmIs JRZ doing blog comedy, or is he really that stupid?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pmwhy are they so dumb??? It is very obvious, the republicans do not think before they speak…WHY ARE OUR CONGRESSMEN SO DUMB?
July 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pmsmidget Says
To answer your question, since you are obviously too lazy to either think it through yourself, if one is not a citizen or in some way registered with the US government, ie “illegal,” then the government has no record of them and therefore doesn’t know they exist, thus they cannot be sent a census form.
Maybe you need the education…census forms are mailed to every household. They don’t care who’s in the house. That’s why its sent to “occupant” and not a name attached. Good try though.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:18 pmI see Timothy McVeigh has been mentioned a few times.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:21 pmThis is worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk
@smidget
Your sheer stupidity should be commended; especially your lack of sources. My source (from the actual Census.gov site) states under the heading 2010 DECENNIAL CENSUS PROGRAM PLANS (Sec2:vii)
If you can follow basic reading instructions, you’ll notice the third paragraph in the same heading states:
Also, from (http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/questionnaire.aspx) and your own direct quote
The person in who fills out the form (Person 1) will provide the household information, including whether the home is rented or owned, and will answer just seven questions about every household member, including himself or herself:.
The web site states the form will ANSWER seven questions about every household member, not that there are seven questions (or even nine as you so stupidly suggested) on the form.
Here is the official Information Copy of the Census Form (http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pdf/2010_Questionnaire_Info_Copy.pdf)
Note the number of questions is 10. So, if I may quote you, “not only are you stupid, but also incapable of even glancing at the references that you yourself are trying to prove your point with.”
Please return from under the rock from whence you came. You are no match. You can go away now.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:26 pm@Tweedster
If you would read the document like a normal intelligent human does, then you would clearly have noticed that Section 3:18 is in the American Community Survey (ACS) portion and is not part of the official Census questions.
Please visit the link to the Informational Copy (provided above) for the actual 10 questions on the Census form. Please show me where there is any mention of citizenship as you so foolishly claim.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pmSleepingGnome
WHAT PART OF http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics/SQuest/SQuest1.htm ARE YOU INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING YOU FCUKING MORON??
CENSUS.GOV
Goddamn idiot.
Furthermore, the short form is sent out once ever 10 years to take a head count, the long form is sent to 1 out of 40 households EVERY YEAR, and is clearly the form that this moronic excuse for a legislature is referring to, as it’s the one that asks the questions she finds offensive and is, you know, LONG.
My god you’re stupid.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:34 pmjzrguy
If you’re talking about the short form, it probably does go to “occupant,” because it is a count of “the whole number of free persons” (source: US Constitution, Article 1), and says nothing about citizenship being a requirement for counting. Illegal immigrants have been counted on every full, short-form census for 232 years. It’s a headcount. Who you are and why you are here is irrelevant to a headcount.
The long form, on the other hand, is addressed to a specific person, not “occupant,” thus if they don’t know you exist because you are illegal, you aren’t going to get one.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:52 pm@smidget
Your sole reference only addresses the ACS. The ACS does address the citizenship issue, but the actual Census questionnaire (the single form that contains 10 questions that everyone has to respond to) does not. The ACS is not part of the decennial enumeration as mandated by the Constitution. The ACS happens every year is used to create a rolling five-year average.
Ms. Bachmann may be wrong about a lot of things, but she was right about there not being a question on citizenship on the Census form.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:18 pmAre you completely incapable of reading?
Shall we try this again?
I clearly stated that there is a long form and a short form. The short form is a headcount, and it doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. Every person living in the US is counted.
The long form, which this idiot is talking about (the hint: the questions she says is on it, the length – which she was wrong about – of the form in question, it doesn’t take a genius to figure this out, yet you are having a really difficult time), specifically asks if you are a citizen.
Therefore she’s wrong, and so are you. Get over it.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pmAlso:
Furthermore, the short form is sent out once ever 10 years to take a head count, the long form is sent to 1 out of 40 households EVERY YEAR
Considering I’m the one that posted that, are you really suffering under the delusion that you needed to tell me that again? I am very well aware of which forms go out yearly, which go out every 10 years, and which one this stupid b!tch is talking about. She may not know the difference between the two, which wouldn’t surprise me, but you seem to, so what is your malfunction here?
July 1st, 2009 at 4:19 pmSince you can’t seem to read it at the top of the page, I’ll repost it here (emphasis mine):
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