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There’s a short form and a long form. On the long form, and recognize that the federal government says unless you answer every question, you’ll be subject to a fine. So the federal government will fine you if you don’t answer the questions.

HANNITY: Give us some of the example of the intrusive questions. We’ve gone over this some time ago and some of the questions that you don’t like.

BACHMANN: Well, they ask you your phone number. They want to know how many times you’ve given live birth. How many times you’ve been married. How many bathrooms are in your home. They want to know what time you leave your house in the morning to go to work. The hour and the minute. What time you come back from work. The hour and the minute. Your age, your race, your sex. And not only just for you, but for every person that lives in your house. Twenty-eight pages. Sean, you know the one question they don’t ask? They don’t ask, “are you an American citizen?” They don’t ask if you’re here on a visa or when it expires. We have no real idea how many illegal aliens are in our country. But wouldn’t you think, here they are asking every personal question about our lives, they could at least ask if we’re an American citizen?

Any questions?

Furthermore, the short form is sent out once ever 10 years to take a head count, the long form is sent to 1 out of 40 households EVERY YEAR

Considering I’m the one that posted that, are you really suffering under the delusion that you needed to tell me that again? I am very well aware of which forms go out yearly, which go out every 10 years, and which one this stupid b!tch is talking about. She may not know the difference between the two, which wouldn’t surprise me, but you seem to, so what is your malfunction here?

Shall we try this again?

I clearly stated that there is a long form and a short form. The short form is a headcount, and it doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. Every person living in the US is counted.

The long form, which this idiot is talking about (the hint: the questions she says is on it, the length – which she was wrong about – of the form in question, it doesn’t take a genius to figure this out, yet you are having a really difficult time), specifically asks if you are a citizen.

Therefore she’s wrong, and so are you. Get over it.

Your sole reference only addresses the ACS. The ACS does address the citizenship issue, but the actual Census questionnaire (the single form that contains 10 questions that everyone has to respond to) does not. The ACS is not part of the decennial enumeration as mandated by the Constitution. The ACS happens every year is used to create a rolling five-year average.

Ms. Bachmann may be wrong about a lot of things, but she was right about there not being a question on citizenship on the Census form.

If you’re talking about the short form, it probably does go to “occupant,” because it is a count of “the whole number of free persons” (source: US Constitution, Article 1), and says nothing about citizenship being a requirement for counting. Illegal immigrants have been counted on every full, short-form census for 232 years. It’s a headcount. Who you are and why you are here is irrelevant to a headcount.

The long form, on the other hand, is addressed to a specific person, not “occupant,” thus if they don’t know you exist because you are illegal, you aren’t going to get one.

WHAT PART OF http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics/SQuest/SQuest1.htm ARE YOU INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING YOU FCUKING MORON??

CENSUS.GOV

Goddamn idiot.

Furthermore, the short form is sent out once ever 10 years to take a head count, the long form is sent to 1 out of 40 households EVERY YEAR, and is clearly the form that this moronic excuse for a legislature is referring to, as it’s the one that asks the questions she finds offensive and is, you know, LONG.

My god you’re stupid.

If you would read the document like a normal intelligent human does, then you would clearly have noticed that Section 3:18 is in the American Community Survey (ACS) portion and is not part of the official Census questions.

Please visit the link to the Informational Copy (provided above) for the actual 10 questions on the Census form. Please show me where there is any mention of citizenship as you so foolishly claim.

Your sheer stupidity should be commended; especially your lack of sources. My source (from the actual Census.gov site) states under the heading 2010 DECENNIAL CENSUS PROGRAM PLANS (Sec2:vii)

The 2010 Census will be a “short form only” census.

If you can follow basic reading instructions, you’ll notice the third paragraph in the same heading states:

Decoupling the short form and long form allows the Census Bureau to focus efforts on the constitutional requirements to produce a count of the resident population, employ technology to improve efficiencies, provide more timely data, improve coverage accuracy, and contain costs while keeping operational risk to a minimum.

Also, from (http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/questionnaire.aspx) and your own direct quote
The person in who fills out the form (Person 1) will provide the household information, including whether the home is rented or owned, and will answer just seven questions about every household member, including himself or herself:.

The web site states the form will ANSWER seven questions about every household member, not that there are seven questions (or even nine as you so stupidly suggested) on the form.

Here is the official Information Copy of the Census Form (http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pdf/2010_Questionnaire_Info_Copy.pdf)

Note the number of questions is 10. So, if I may quote you, “not only are you stupid, but also incapable of even glancing at the references that you yourself are trying to prove your point with.”

Please return from under the rock from whence you came. You are no match. You can go away now.

Maybe you need the education…census forms are mailed to every household. They don’t care who’s in the house. That’s why its sent to “occupant” and not a name attached. Good try though.

well, hopefully someday send them home.

We should send them to New Jersey, so at least there would be some people in the state willing to work hard.

Oh, I get it. It doesn’t. You’re just an idiot. *applause*

To answer your question, since you are obviously too lazy to either think it through yourself, if one is not a citizen or in some way registered with the US government, ie “illegal,” then the government has no record of them and therefore doesn’t know they exist, thus they cannot be sent a census form.

Now, I know that it’s difficult to make logical inferences like that when you have your head crammed so far up your ass, but please, try harder in the future, so I don’t have to waste my time educating you.

Not everything she said was wrong, but since I have it open right now, let’s go ahead and fact check her screed, shall we?

Well, they ask you your phone number.
That’s true.
They want to know how many times you’ve given live birth.
No, they don’t. They ask if you’ve given birth within the past 12 months. (Question 24 for each Person)
How many times you’ve been married.
Yep. (Question 22 for each Person)
How many bathrooms are in your home.
No, they don’t. In the Housing section, they do ask how many rooms you have in your home, and they specifically exclude bathrooms from the count. (Question 7 in Housing)
They want to know what time you leave your house in the morning to go to work. The hour and the minute.
That is actually true. They also ask how many minutes it takes you to get to work. That doesn’t surprise me. I mean, I know what the average commute time is, so obviously that info was collected somehow.
What time you come back from work. The hour and the minute.
That’s not true. They don’t ask what time you get home. That did surprise me.
Your age, your race, your sex.
Wow, really? Who would have thought that demographics this intrusive would be on a census, right? I mean, you can clearly determine these things just by looking at someone, so obviously its sensitive personal information…./snark.

Strangely, she didn’t seem to be all that concerned with the copious amount of data and detail they are requesting about annual income and where it comes from. These pieces of information actually ARE sensitive, but she seems to not have enough of an issue about that to mention it. Strange. Race is too personal a question, but how much you make a year and where it comes from is totally cool. What a stupid b!tch.

I guess that means citizen? Illegal immigrants aren’t Americans by definition.

Hey ass-hat, why don’t you educate yourself. Mosey on down to section 3:18

Hey there foolio – go to section 3:18

Your lengthy screed about facts takes a serious hit when you obviously haven’t done the homework to corroborate your allegations. Go take a nap.

Schlitweitz!!!