ThinkFast: June 30, 2009
ThinkFast: June 30, 2009
“Nearly three-quarters of all Americans support the plan to withdraw most U.S. combat troops from Iraqi cities and towns, even though most believe that the troop movements will lead to an increase in violence in that country,” according to a new CNN/Opinion Research poll. “This plan has widespread bipartisan support,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad Al Bolani writes in the Washington Post today that while the withdrawal of U.S. troops from major Iraq cities “must provide some relief to many Americans, whose sacrifice has been extraordinary,” “none of us can be lulled into believing that Iraq is a ‘mission accomplished.’” “June 30 is not an historical endpoint,” but “the beginning of a highly uncertain chapter in Iraqi democracy.”
The health insurance lobby plans to hold more than 75 townhall and other events around the country this week to rally their supporters on health care reform. “We have really ramped up our efforts to engage the health plan community,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for AHIP. “We are encouraging health plan employees from across the country to get involved, reach out to their Member of Congress, talk about what they do and the value they’re adding to the health care system.”
The House Intelligence Committee approved legislation meant to strengthen congressional oversight of sensitive intelligence matters. The committee “proposed doing away with provisions that allowed a president to limit disclosure of sensitive intelligence activities to the ‘Gang of Eight.’” Instead, the committee “gave each intelligence committee, rather than the president, the legal authority to limit briefings to its own members.”
Bernard Madoff was sentenced to the maximum 150 years behind bars, one of the stiffest penalties ever given for a white-collar crime, which averages out to a year in prison for every $333 million Madoff cost investors. “The penalty sparked a burst of applause in a courtroom packed with victims of the fraud,” while the judge labeled Madoff’s Ponzi scheme “extraordinarily evil.”
After “quickly finishing a partial vote count,” Iran’s Guardian Council “formally certified the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to a second four-year term, saying there was no validity to charges of voting fraud.” The decision “touched off scattered protests in Tehren” last night. “It is a divided country now,” said an unnamed Iranian political analyst.
The Obama administration is “developing plans to seek up to 1,500 National Guard volunteers to step up the military’s counter-drug efforts along the Mexican border, senior administration officials said Monday.” Some officials worry such a move will be “seen as militarizing the region.”
Yesterday, Center for American Progress President John Podesta and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle “joined to promote a plan to get roughly one-third of the $1.2 trillion from new tax revenues and the rest from savings in Medicare and Medicaid payments to hospitals, doctors, pharmaceutical companies and other health-care providers.” The two said that taxing some employer provided benefits may be necessary.
The Obama administration is moving forward with lifting “a 1987 U.S. ban on travel and immigration by foreign nationals” infected with HIV. Last year, President Bush signed into law a provision to remove HIV from the list of banned diseases, and yesterday, the Obama administration published the official rule in the Federal Register. There is now a 45-day comment period before it can officially become law.
And finally: Although First Lady Michelle Obama is well-known for her fashion-forward sensibilities, President Obama is beginning to influence men’s clothing too. Anthony Asaf has been a tailor to “the high-powered, high-profile men in Washington for years” and says that more of his clients are now asking for an “Obama-like” fit. “We are seeing a much slimmer suit, and a narrower, almost tapered pant leg,” said Asaf. “The shoulder is also much softer, with less padding in it than before.”
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McCain staffers allegedly called Palin ‘little shop of horrors’
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Time for Michal Moore to re-release “Sicko”
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am“Like, there was this lady who said she thought she had a lump on her breast, and I said, ‘No, you don’t’. And now she’s dead from cancer! HIGH FIVE!”
June 30th, 2009 at 9:05 amBernard Madoff was sentenced to the maximum 150 years behind bars, one of the stiffest penalties ever given for a white-collar crime, which averages out to a year in prison for every $333 million Madoff cost investors.
I’m thinking he’ll get 5 years off for good behavior.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:09 amFrom the article:
Although they counted only 10% of the votes cast, they counted 100% of the votes cast for Ahmadinejad.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:12 amWatch Rabid Righties try to spin the Supreme’s decision as ‘proof’ that Sotomayor is an activist Judge.
Never mind the fact it was the Supremes themselves that decided current law should be changed.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:16 amMaybe Bachmann will weigh in with expert analysis on this today.
After “quickly finishing a partial vote count,” …
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Can we assume this “partial vote count” consisted of the votes from Ahmadinejad’s home town?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:19 amHBO had an excellent documentary on the 1st Amendment & free speech last night.
One of the stories portrayed how the Feds & even the NYC went to great lengths to discredit, slander & try to shut down a woman’s efforts to open a Madrassa named the Kahlid Gibran school.
Check it our if you can, I recommend it to refresh our memories of how important the 1st Amendment is.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:27 amThe health insurance lobby plans to hold more than 75 townhall and other events around the country this week to rally their supporters on health care reform.
The vultures’ idea of neutralizing the opposition is by following their outreach tactics.
Rallying the status quo is helluva lot better than being forced to shape up or ship out by offering swindled customers a new option: the public option.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am“…even though most believe that the troop movements will lead to an increase in violence in that country,”…
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There may very well be. After all, we’re talking about a couple of groups of people who genuinely hate each other, and without the playground monitors, the sectarian violence could take an upswing.
But there are a couple of factors that may mitigate this. First, with the Americans gone (or at least off the stage and into the wings), the anti-American violence should diminish. And second, there will be the Iraqi police force to keep order. We haven’t really given them a chance yet to see what they can do — they may surprise us and do a great job, or they may fall on their faces.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am“We are encouraging health plan employees from across the country to get involved, reach out to their Member of Congress, talk about what they do and the value they’re adding to the health care system.”
I’m thinking that if the employees don’t become very visible lobbyists for their employers they might just, coincidentally, be one of those on the chopping block if any cuts happen down the road.
This is from a year ago:
snip
June 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
um… when did reuters go fox?
Madoff To Rot Behind Bars
Reuters – ?22 minutes ago?
By sara.behunek – The Big Money The New York Times leads with and the Wall Street Journal banners with news that Bernard Madoff, architect of the largest-ever financial fraud, has been slapped with the maximum sentence of 150 years in prison six months …
or NYPost, or Enquirer…
i dunno… it seemed a tad too tabloid… for reuters…?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:29 amThe two said that taxing some employer provided benefits may be necessary.
None of that is necessary. Just abolish private insurance and go to single-payer.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:31 am“We have really ramped up our efforts to engage the health plan community”.Yeah to destroy our progressive efforts to have good decent single payer health care that all Americans can afford and know that they won`t be dropped due to previous conditions that have no bearing on your health whatsoever or lose your home to foreclosure due to medical bills which only happens in this country but not the rest of the industrialized world which has what we don`t have here.Why has the industrialized world based their health care on our V.A which takes care of our military heroes,which is socialized medicine or they have used our Medicare which takes care of our 60 million plus elderly and runs at a 2 to 3 percent overhead,it`s greed that has driven this country to where it`s at today in health care and it`s a very sad commentary on our country`s state of health care.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:32 amOf course, the insurance lobby would love for me to appear at their “rally” – I’m in their target demographic: 20-something and healthy.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:33 amGary Kleppe Says:
The two said that taxing some employer provided benefits may be necessary.
None of that is necessary. Just abolish private insurance and go to single-payer.
That’s what I’d like to see. But it would really make a statement to see people voluntarily gravitate from the private insurers to a public option. 72% percent of Americans and 50% of republicans are confident that the free market isn’t so free when as it pertains to health care.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:40 amThe health insurance lobby plans to hold more than 75 townhall and other events around the country this week to rally their supporters on health care reform. “We have really ramped up our efforts to engage the health plan community,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for AHIP.
To ensure that competition is killed before it can emerge.
Competition is the insurance industry’s enemy.
The insurance industry needs to be destroyed. They are the ticks and leeches that feed off of an ailing nation. They weaken America from within, with the aid of ‘our’ representatives.
They need to be driven out, along with the congressmen who enable them.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:41 amTazing health plans?
I get my health care from the VA.
Good morning, campers
June 30th, 2009 at 9:43 amtaxing, not tazing.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:44 amI’m no good without my morning coffee.
John Podesta and former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle “joined to promote a plan to get roughly one-third of the $1.2 trillion from new tax revenues and the rest from savings in Medicare and Medicaid payments to hospitals, doctors, pharmaceutical companies and other health-care providers.
The “logic” for payments being cut is “everyone” will have a payer source. Some 20 million people will remain uncovered, due to illegal immigrants and the chronically non-compliant. Safety net hospitals and doctors are already financially strained. They will remain burdened as for-profit hospitals and their medical staffs limit exposure to Medicare and Medicaid.
Taxing health insurance benefits is a burden for the worker/employee. If Congress keeps the health insurance deduction for the individual, watch for the benefit to be dumped to workers. This will happen slowly, otherwise the frog might notice the heat and jump out of the pot.
Our corporate sponsored Congress plans to do the Chamber of Commerce’s bidding. Obama, Orzag, Emanuel, Summers, and DeParle/Sebellius use Chamber of Commerce language on health reform. Corporations will win and employees/workers lose.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:48 amJudge Denny Chin unplugged the chief sociopath of Wall Street.
My question is, how many roaches remain scurrying?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:49 am.
Madoff will be out in a matter of months for some health problem. No one in his crime family will ever have to work, or worry about money. The people he robbed will suffer and die before he does. He should be executed. Every tenth Wall Streeter should be executed. But they have friends in high places, so, that’ll never, ever, ever happen. TANJ.
And that 75% who approved of pulling our troops probably assumed they were coming home. They’re never coming home. We’ll be in Iraq till the Middle East runs out of oil and/ or somebody wipes Israel off the map. Even then…
And we’ll have real healthcare after all that happens. Maybe.
This is self-explanatory, really: R. Crumb, Global Warming & the California Free Lunch
June 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am.
From the link above about the health insurance lobbying:
U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue also said his group will not stand by idly if its members disapprove of the ultimate legislation.
“If we decided what was in that bill had to be defeated — which we’re not there at all — we’d do whatever we have to do to beat it,” Donohue said. “I’m still working on getting a workable bill.”
This Tom Donohue before the last presidential election?
and this:
June 30th, 2009 at 9:53 am
For-profit health insurers had eight years to address the needs of the uninsured. The uncovered grew by over 8 million people.
Nonprofit coops exist in markets where the uninsured grew.
Government exists to provide important services the private sector can’t or won’t.
Our corporate sponsored elected officials plan to give huge amounts of new business to the private sector. It ranges from health care to education to infrastructure. Our government gives huge chunks of government business to their corporate friends and donors.
Dirty Daschle and Lobbying Podesta are pushing a private health insurance model.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:55 amJust watch the attention the healthcare lobby gets from BIG MEDIA. And if that is not enought to squash your hopes for a PUBLIC PLAN, well the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS will come to their aid and put the OPTION to bed.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:58 amThe health insurance lobby plans to hold more than 75 townhall and other events around the country this week to rally their supporters on health care reform. “We have really ramped up our efforts to engage the health plan community,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for AHIP. “We are encouraging health plan employees from across the country to get involved, reach out to their Member of Congress, talk about what they do and the value they’re adding to the health care system.”
That would be great! I hope they hold one in my hometown.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:01 amI’d especially like to talk to all the members who comprised my ‘tumor board’. Yeah, the ones who told me I should wait 90 days and have my cancerous tumor re-examined, so as not to risk an ‘unnecessary surgery’.
I’d like to talk to them.
I don’t know how worried health insurance companies really are. I have Blue Cross and they’re messing with me worse than they ever have. I guess the industry would rather spend their money lobbying and propagandizing than servicing their customers. If they were going to change the way they treated consumers don’t you think they’d be doing it now.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:01 amPremiums have gone up over the past six years by more than 87 percent, on average, while profits at ten of the largest publicly traded health insurance companies rose 428 percent from 2000 to 2007.
That’s all I need to know, hanshiro. The trolls never answer me when I ask them where the “free-market solutions” were during the Bush years.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:02 amYou don’t get to go their townhall meeting. All seats are reserved.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:04 am“Nearly three-quarters of all Americans support the plan to withdraw most U.S. combat troops from Iraqi cities and towns…”
Wait, so over a quarter of Americans do not support upholding the SOFA agreement that we signed with the democratic government of Iraq? What’s the other option? Invade and overthrow them?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:04 amHi RU, don’t forget to bring the cancelled check. You know, of last month’s premium. And try to have it mega-sized like one of those prize checks.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:05 amExclusive: Fox Newser Accused of Dragging Cyclist Through Central Park
Witnesses paint a different picture:
As if you needed yet more evidence why Murdoch’s little prima donna parade is so contemptible. Doubtless there must be a profile that Fox and the Post requires for their employees: “Must be a sociopathic @sshole…”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:07 amZimzone Says:
One of the stories portrayed how the Feds & even the NYC went to great lengths to discredit, slander & try to shut down a woman’s efforts to open a Madrassa named the Kahlid Gibran school.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am
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FYI – that’s the Khalil Gibran school, named for the Lebanese-American poet whose writings mostly dealt with Christian spirituality. Which of course makes it quite ironic that the Arabic language school was attacked as a “radical madrassa,” in itself an irony since “madrasa” simply means “school.”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:08 am… i’m not trusting tom daschle…
heard he went to the dark side, lobbying… no details…
but his ‘no public option’ was a real let down…
June 30th, 2009 at 10:09 amFleabag, so you thing General Electric, probably the biggest lender to corporations in the country, should have been allowed to fail while every other financial interest was bailed out. Do you even know that this has nothing to do with the media interests of GE or do you just post what your handlers tell you to?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:09 am4 U.S. soldiers killed during Iraq city pull out.
Four thoughts on this:
1-My prayers go out to the soldiers and their families.
2-How long before the republican’s use this to say we should just keep our troops in Iraq forever?
3-If the death toll of U.S. soldiers increases during the pull out you can bet the republican party will capitalize on this to attack President Obama.
4-Some where deep in his cave, Darth Cheney is pleased that the sacrifices of these four U.S. soldiers wasn’t wasted.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:11 amHanshiro’s post needs to be said a 3rd time…
Premiums have gone up over the past six years by more than 87 percent, on average, while profits at ten of the largest publicly traded health insurance companies rose 428 percent from 2000 to 2007.
Folks, these profits aren’t generated by healthy corporate competition. They’re generated by collusion, breaching anti-trust laws & not giving a phlying phuck about you, the customer.
Deny all claims! That will generate some ‘healthy’ profits!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:11 amGood morning, Uncle Ho. “tazing health plans” is something the patient has experienced at bedside.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:11 amwatchdog Says:
4 US soldiers killed during Iraq cities pullout
And TP is silent on this? WHY?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:01 am
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What a shame. It’s tragic and sad that four soldiers were killed in Iraq.
There, now you can no longer say that we’re silent on it.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:13 amFox News: Don Broderick (D-NY), MSNBC writer
June 30th, 2009 at 10:16 amsnooze pup says:
It’s most unfortunate that you were not one of those four soldiers killed.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:17 amChickenhawks squawk the big talk, but never have the balls to put their bodies where their mouths are.
Madoff gets a 150 year sentence!?!
When will he suddenly and mysteriously die from a heart attack? If he would have been heavily tied to the Bush family crime syndicate he’d be living it up on the Bush family compound in Portugal with Ken Lay.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:19 amGM, toasterhead. That parody of watchdog a week ago was brilliant.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:20 amToasterhead,
Thanks for the clarification…we can always count on you!
I actually read a couple of Gibran’s works as a young man. You know, before all those Mideasters became ‘the enemy’.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:23 amUncle Ho Says:
snooze pup says:
It’s most unfortunate that you were not one of those four soldiers killed.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:24 amChickenhawks squawk the big talk, but never have the balls to put their bodies where their mouths are.
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Yep. They demand freedom, security and liberty but ALWAYS at others expense and sacrifice, usually the children of the poor and middle class.
total number of casualties during Iraq’s unwarranted occupation
And blotchdog is silent on this? WHY?
Oh, that’s right. Because blotchdog just loves to disrespect the families of the fallen heroes.
Mucking’ foron!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am“We are seeing a much slimmer suit, and a narrower, almost tapered pant leg,” said Asaf.
yeeahhh… that only works if you’re obama-tall&slim… not?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:26 amUsing TP’s Madoff Math: Can I spend a week in jail for 6.38 million $$$ ?????
June 30th, 2009 at 10:34 amYou don’t give a shit about troop deaths, watchpup. The height of troll masturbation was in 2006, when violence in Iraq was at epic proportions and Bush was chanting stay the course ™.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:35 amI’d even have healthcare for that week :)~
June 30th, 2009 at 10:35 amblotchdog,
I guess it is a little difficult to admit your disrespect for a fallen hero, when EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US who posted on that thread a month or so ago, sent condolences and prayers, EXCEPT FOR YOU!!!
I guess it is a little difficult for you and your little a$$ brain to admit you’ve used the honorable dead as a political pawn for your right wing agenda.
But I don’t have to guess this: You and your ilk are still
June 30th, 2009 at 10:35 amMUCKIN’ FORONS!
Oh don’t be too hard on the idiot known as watchdog, he is just so used to seeing Bush use our U.S. soldiers for photo ops and for political gain…
Never mind that 4100+ U.S. soldiers have died and 20,000 more have been maimed over a war driven by lies, an unnecessary war which has cost the lives of over 150,000 innocent Iraqi’s, a war that has cost us trillions of dollars for which our grand children will be paying for, a war THAT had nothing to do with 9/11.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:38 amBy the way, blotchdog, if you want to play your silly, petty game about troop fatalities/casualties, I say, let’s dance, monkey breath.
I DO NOT PUT UP WITH THE DISRESPECT OF THOSE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN, WHO ARE SERVING, OR WHO HAVE SERVED, OR WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY IN THE LINE OF DUTY!!!
And if you want to talk an agenda, I do have one! To have those brave men and women back home safely, to be with their families.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:38 amThat is not a left wing agenda. That is not a right wing agenda.
That is a COMPASSIONATE HUMAN agenda!!!
But, but, but watchdog supports our troops! He has a yellow magnet ribbon made in China on his rusty old Ford pickup truck with the confederate flag in the back window to prove it.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:40 amCompassionate human agenda is foreign to the right wing agenda.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:42 amNow compassionate corporate agenda is something they are familiar with.
Maybe, but unlike you neoCon morons, the political use was aimed at SAVING American soldiers’ lives from an unnecessary war. If you’re so concerned about Bush’s recreational war, nobody’s stopping you from going over there and keeping order yourself. You start your own Troll Patrol…
June 30th, 2009 at 10:45 amPhuck off watchdog, you phony piece of human garbage! You have been cheer leading Bush’s failed war from day one and never gave a damn about U.S. causalities until the disaster in the desert was conveniently passed on to President Obama
June 30th, 2009 at 10:45 amwatchdog Says:
Your emotional slobbering proves your admission to using troop deaths for political reasons. NEXT!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:42 am
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Stating that troops died is not “using their deaths for political reasons.”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:46 amYour emotional slobbering proves your admission to using troop deaths for political reasons. NEXT!
U.S. operations in Iraq are coming to a close, watchdog. Don’t cry, Halliburton wasn’t hiring anyway.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:46 amThank you, blotchdog, to once again disrespecting the fallen heroes, by trivializing their deaths as insignificant.
I thank you, only because you’ve proven my point.
Now go away, and let real adults discuss real issues, with compassion, respect, and INTELLIGENCE!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:48 amLMAO
June 30th, 2009 at 10:49 amZimzone Says:
Toasterhead,
Thanks for the clarification…we can always count on you!
I actually read a couple of Gibran’s works as a young man. You know, before all those Mideasters became ‘the enemy’.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:23 am
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Thankee! I like to drop a little knowledge now and then…
Though I must admit I haven’t read much Gibran yet. Gonna fix that now.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:50 amchiroptera toasterhead Says:
Stating that troops died is not “using their deaths for political reasons.”
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Apparently to splotchdog it is only when the democrats are in control. Remember during the Bush years showing photos of the caskets of the returning dead U.S. soldiers was forbidden. I guess splotchdog thought that was the right thing to do. See, Cheney learned the lessons from Vietnam. Keep the media coverage at arms length, do not show the death toll or it will sway public opinion to become anti-war.
You disrespectfully bring the subject up with no real concern for the dead troops. Who is using them for political reasons, idiot?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:51 amWatchpuppy is just another one of these rightwing tough guys, who has never done anything himself, never put his own life on the line or served his country in any form. He’s just alittle piss ant who talks a good line, but doesn’t walk it himself.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:57 amwatchputz, the goal of progressives was to get troops out of Iraq and the very first thing TP posted on today was troop removal. But I guess when you got your RNC talking points they didn’t know what would be up there. Maybe you should put a little effort into your job.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:57 ampodesta and daschle: working as hard as they can to destroy any hope of real medical coverage for the population. As Greg Palast says, “we have the best government that money can buy.”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:57 amwatchdog Says:
4 US soldiers killed during Iraq cities pullout
And TP is silent on this? WHY?
Well, Bush and Cheney have both said that making a big deal out of troop deaths or other bad news might “embolden the enemy” and that would be a bad thing. We wouldn’t want to play right into Al-Qaeda’s hands by acting like Iraq is any more dangerous than NYC – something other wingnuts have repeatedly claimed. After all, as many wingnuts have told us over and over again, having a “liberal media” reporting bad news from Iraq is a bad thing and makes our troops and baby Jesus cry. Right? Isn’t that what you guys used to say?
But the real reason is that TP is not a comprehensive news source, as has been repeatedly explained to you. It posts only stories that fit in with the agenda of the CAP. This is not a secret, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s right out in the open: the CAP, which runs TP, uses it to do stories that pertain to its progressive political agenda, as is its right.
Since troop deaths in Iraq are not the sort of thing that are appropriate to use for political football, those stories aren’t covered here. I realize that right-wing websites may want to politicize their deaths, but we don’t. The most I have to say on it is – at least we’re on the way out so that doesn’t have to happen any more. If McCain were in office, he’d be putting even more troops into harm’s way just so he could look like a tough guy by proxy.
If a prominent conservative politician says something really stupid about those deaths, you can bet TP will post it, though.
In the meantime, I invite you to go to a host of other informative websites which have complete coverage of national and world events in order to get your news. HuffPo has it on their home page, along with lots of other interesting news items.
But please, please, stop asking why TP doesn’t post items that aren’t relevant to CAP’s agenda. I’ve told you. Now you know. So stop asking.
Of course, we’ve told you this before, but it’s easy to misunderestimate the power of wingnut willful ignorance.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:15 amwatchdog Says:
I guess not. But this site had daily war casualty reports leading up to the presidential election. And once the election was over, so was the daily death toll updates.
Right. Once the guy who said he’d start to withdraw from Iraq was elected, as opposed to the guy who wanted to stay there for over 100 years, there was no point in reminding the electorate what the ongoing costs were any more.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:18 amDo YOU feel better mean & mangy ‘watchdog’?
Now that you’ve derailed this thread by doing your best to use troop deaths for your own personal politics?
Do you really think deep in your heart that by leaving our troops there for years and years, that the additional troop deaths are somehow justified so that all of the other troop deaths aren’t “wasted” as The Dick said?
Shouldn’t we get them out asap so prevent MORE troop deaths? Wouldn’t that be that best way to show respect to them – by trying to prevent their deaths?!
June 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pmNo, PileofDog mess.
You plastered those talking points to see what sticks.
Let’s move along and have you elaborate in another current wingnut conspiracy. How GE is to reap enormous profits from its cozy relationship with the Obama administration.
June 30th, 2009 at 12:25 pmTake it away Billdo.
How much blood will be on obamas hands by the end of the day?
June 30th, 2009 at 1:24 pmCar bomb killed 50 more, today.
June 30th, 2009 at 1:25 pmAs if you or I needed any more evidence as to the true nature of the regressive cesspool known as the GOP:
My God, how I detest these degenerate fcukwits.
America.
Fat, dumb, and proud of it.
*spit*
June 30th, 2009 at 1:31 pmSo if Sotomayor followed the precedent of a previous case and is still considered an activist judge is it fair to say that the re-pukes are morons that can handle the truth and isn`t Kennedy now considered an activist judge for not following the same precedents as Sotomayor, are all re-pukes really confused by the truth?
June 30th, 2009 at 1:57 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
How much blood will be on obamas hands by the end of the day?
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Not nearly as much as the Bush crime family`s after 5 plus years I am sure if that.Are you truly ignorant of the facts like all Reich wings ass hats?
June 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pmThe “wothdrawal” is a SHAM. They are only changing the names of the combat brigades to “advisory and assistance brigades”. THE WAR RAGES ON FOLKS. Check out how many US soldiers were killed this month. The “withdrawal” is also only from the cities into the PERMANENT US MILITARY BASES and Green Zone. WE ARE THERE FOR DECADES PEOPLE. All part of STEALING Iraq’s oil resources which was finally accomplished some weeks ago when the US successfully got the Iraqi puppet regime to pass the production sharing agreement law giving 75% of the country’s oil filed revenues to teh largest western oil companies, erego the world’s richest families. It took them 37 years to steal the oil back from the Iraqi people. And they finally got it.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:24 pm