In coup aftermath, Hugo Chavez seen as the ‘George Bush of Latin America.’
In coup aftermath, Hugo Chavez seen as the ‘George Bush of Latin America.’
The New York Times reports today that, despite Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez’s attempts to portray the U.S. as the instigators of last weekend’s coup in Honduras, the Obama administration appears to have out-maneuvered him. Obama “firmly condemned the coup, defusing Mr. Chávez’s charges,” and leaders of other Latin American countries and media outlets seemed unwilling to accept Chávez’s portrayal of “Washington as the coup’s possible orchestrator.” Chávez’s unpopular and belligerent rhetoric inspired Venezualan opposition party Acción Democrática to dub him the “George Bush of Latin America“:
Mr. Obama’s nonconfrontational diplomacy seems to have caught Mr. Chávez off balance. “Chávez is beginning to understand that he’s dealing with someone with a very different approach than his predecessor,” said Michael Shifter, vice president of the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington policy research group. …
Mr. Chávez’s threats of belligerence in Central America led one opposition party here, Acción Democrática, to issue a statement on Monday that was full of irony: “Hugo Chávez has become the George Bush of Latin America.”
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Is Chavez a drunk and a cokehead?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pmDid Chavez invade a country halfway around the world, killing hundreds of thousands and obliterating vital infrastructure in the process?
No, this is just dumb. News flash, guys: The USA may well have been involved in the coup. We shouldn’t take Obama’s word on faith that it wasn’t. Haven’t we figured out by now that blindly believing what our leaders tell us leads to bad consequences?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:22 pmCHAVEZ: Wow. I guess not all Americans are as easily played as George W. Bush.
Well done, President Obama.
Cue the troll saying, “But but but, Obama SHOOK HIS HAND!!!!!”
July 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pm…
he went to yale.
and attended harvard business school.
in his spare time he works as a piñata
at children’s birthday parties.
…
viva jorge w. chavez!!!
:)
:0
July 1st, 2009 at 12:27 pmAnnnnnd, the most stupid troll EVER has arrived!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pmChe’s dead?
Sweet. The price of my Che T-shirt’s gonna skyrocket!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pmThinkprogress = Muswim Jorge Sowos!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pmAmazing to think that when America behaves with quiet power, intelligence, and with a sense of ethics and morality, thugs around the globe appear to be thugs in the eyes of the world. And when we behave as radical Capitalist without care for the rights of other countries, things get blurry in the eyes of people around globe.
Who’d a thunk it?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmOne of my favorite troll jujitsu moves — imagine what your opponent thinks, then criticize them based on your own fantasy.
Too bad this Flea Market Troll always trips on his own shoeleaces.
have you thought of velcro shoes, FML? I know they’re a bit dated and dorky, but y’know, if it solves a problem…
July 1st, 2009 at 12:35 pmWhy hasn’t FLEAMARKETREPIGGIE enlisted in the military to fight in Bush’s favorite wars?
What is it about these repiggies that keeps them from the glory of warfare?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:35 pmOh, before I forget, FreeMarketLiberal, you forgot to answer my question about the Census the other day. Mind being a sweetie and answering it here?
Thanks, dollface.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pmIn coup aftermath, Hugo Chavez seen as the ‘George Bush of Latin America.’
– - Chavez is a little Bushian but he’s more Generalissimo Francisco Franco, and we know how long it took that guy to expire.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:38 pmSo George is the Hugo Chavez of North America?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:38 pmI hear that the Bush clan wants to inflict another of their demon spawn on our poor suffering nation.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pm…
october 9, 1967.
† † †
just a little bit behind
the curve, aren’t you?
:)
July 1st, 2009 at 12:41 pmoh whatever!
that story is so full of shit…i am surprised that TP even ventured that stupidity.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:43 pmAmericasBack,
I’ll never forget the infamous shoulder rub for Andrea Merkel.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pmCreepy!
Gary Kleppe Says:
No, this is just dumb. News flash, guys: The USA may well have been involved in the coup. We shouldn’t take Obama’s word on faith that it wasn’t. Haven’t we figured out by now that blindly believing what our leaders tell us leads to bad consequences?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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It’s possible, sure. After all, Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, the head of the Honduran armed forces, is allegedly a School of the Americas graduate. Given our history in the region, it’s quite plausible.
However, it’s also entirely possible that the whole affair is motivated entirely by internal Honduran politics and has nothing to do with us.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:47 pmjoe,
With all of the celebrities dying last weekend, I think FML got a little confused.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pmHugo Chavez is no George W. Bush! Sit back and allow the death of over 3 thousand of your citizens, about 5 thousand of your soldiers, 100’s of thousands of innocent foreigners, become an international war criminal and tank your economy Hugo…THEN we’ll talk! Hugo is a lightweight.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm…
zoo,
shoulder rubs,
soul mates,
bathroom stalls.
…
viva la bush doctrine!
:|
:)
July 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pmThis is stupid Chavez isn’t nearly as bad as Bush nor has he failed miserably as Bush and he’s left not right in fact I think he’s the opposite of Bush.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pmBeing referred to as “the George Bush of…” anything is the ultimate insult, even around the globe.
That’s gotta hurt.
PEACE
July 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pmDoes Chavez love the little snowflakes?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pmChavez may have very good reason to think that the U.S. was in some way involved.
My understanding is that the two generals involved in the military coup in Honduras are both graduates of the infamous School of Americas based at Fort Benning, GA. Of of them a double-graduate.
That said, I’m glad that Obama out-maneuvered Chavez.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pmSoul mate?
Seriously joe, Sanford must be stuck in junior high.
:-D
July 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pmI suspect the reason the Obama administration “out-maneuvered” Chavez, and the reason Chavez is “dealing with someone with a very different approach than [Bush]” is that President Obama actually pays attention to what’s going on in the world, and doesn’t depend solely on the daily presidential briefings for his information.
And he was paying more attention to the coup in Honduras than to Michael Jackson’s death (no help from the MSM on this). Yes, that’s a different approach.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:56 pmSanford sees himself as the Che Guevara of marriage. He is literally going undercover to ferret out the loose women of the third world, those vamping sirens who along with the gays are destroying the sanctity of marriage.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pmI’ll never forget the infamous shoulder rub for Andrea Merkel.
Creepy!
Little George had another unforgettable faux pas with Merkel when he became obsessed with “slicing the pig”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBc4FqqSMJw
July 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pmEnough Hugo Chavez demonization! If he was the US president, I guarantee we would have single payer health care.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pmOMG, Reggie, I’d forgotten about that. Merkel looked absolutely mortified.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pmZooey Says: “Cue the troll saying, ‘But but but, Obama SHOOK HIS HAND!!!!!’”
Yeah, hand-shaking has been a Right Wing bugaboo for decades. One time John Foster Dulles, then our Secretary of State, was formally introduced to his Chinese counterpart, Foreign Secretary Chou En Lai, and pointedly refused to shake his hand.
That musta showed him!
July 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pmThe opposition party in Venezuela and their right wing media outlets are all working together with the coup plotters in Honduras.
The CIA (Capitalism’s Invisible Army) are no doubt working with them. CIA doesn’t work for the Obama administration. They work for American corporations. Keep this in mind.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pmstewarjt Says:
Enough Hugo Chavez demonization! If he was the US president, I guarantee we would have single payer health care.
And he would have gotten rid of every news network other than Fox News.
I’m very wary of any leader, right-wing or left-wing, theocratic or secular, that declares that he, and only he, knows what’s good for the people and will do whatever it takes to get it done, because the laws don’t apply to him.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pmHere’s how great your glorious leader is.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/24/photos/index.html
Hell, just read Greenwald’s blog once and a while and you’ll see just how similar Obama is to Bush and how similar the Democrats are to the Republicans.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/30/white_house/index.html
July 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
The only similarity between George W. Bush and Hugo Chavez is Chavez has an ability to say stupid things at times because he doesn’t try to verify things and go through proper procedures before he makes statements. Bush’s rhetoric problems were more an issue with the English language. Outside of that he is very progressive policies that have done a large amount of good for his country. It’s more his personality traits that irk me.
I wouldn’t really care much what an opposition party like Acción Democrática, who hold a whopping zero seats, have to say since prior to Chavez they essentially ran the country with the Venezuelan elite. Now all they have left is the media…
July 1st, 2009 at 1:09 pmmary lacewing Says:
My understanding is that the two generals involved in the military coup in Honduras are both graduates of the infamous School of Americas based at Fort Benning, GA. Of of them a double-graduate.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
True.
And Zelaya was committing the usual cardinal sin that gets Latin American leaders deposed by the CIA – clashing with foreign oil companies while trying to improve the standard of living for the poor in his country.
Come to think of it, the circumstances leading up to the coup read a bit like a bad telenovela. Term-limited president seeks referendum to remove term limits… Supreme court rules the referendum unconstitutional… President tells Supreme Court to shove it and orders his Armed Forces Chief to distribute referendum ballots anyway… Armed Forces Chief refuses to distribute ballots… President fires Armed Forces Chief… Armed Forces Chief and Supreme Court tell President he can’t do that… President says “I can’t? Says you and what army?”… Armed Forces Chief shows President what army…
All it’s missing is a doctor using a false name to operate on his ex-wife and a cheating spouse and a raccoon-eyed temptress trying to bring ruin on the protagonist.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:09 pm#40. Respectfully, you are writing out of ignorance or brainwashing. Please read this article by Dr. Mark Weisbrot for more information.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:24 pmIn coup aftermath, Hugo Chavez seen as the ‘George Bush of Latin America.’
Yeah, let’s take a NY Times’ reporter’s word for any pronouncements about who President Chavez is and isn’t. Judith Miller, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
TP, thanks that’s enough ideology for today.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:28 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
And Zelaya was committing the usual cardinal sin that gets Latin American leaders deposed by the CIA – clashing with foreign oil companies while trying to improve the standard of living for the poor in his country.
I appreciate your knowledge of these sorts of things and hope that TP and other news outlets report anything said by both Chavez and his opposition with a balanced hand.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:30 pmstewarjt Says:
#40. Respectfully, you are writing out of ignorance or brainwashing. Please read this article by Dr. Mark Weisbrot for more information.
I’ve read the article some time ago. It’s from 2007. I still believe Chavez wants to control all the media in his country. But don’t take my word for it: here’s what the Sociedad Interamericana de Prensa have to say.
Please don’t talk to me about brainwashing when we’re speaking about Chavez. He’s the one talking about teaching young children to be good Socialists in their schools. He’s also ordered that all State-sponsored culture must be Socialist.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:44 pmHe nationalized their oil industry and put the profits into programs for the poor. That’s kind of the opposite of anything Bush would do.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:12 pmMel Zelaya was another Castro and Chavez want-a-be. In light of the reality of the situation, someone somehow turned the events into an evil Bush agenda. The supreme court of Honduras ordered his ouster which is now finally being confirmed by news sources. The statements by our state department are a terrible mistake. Where would our democracy be without our supreme court? Fortunately we have leaders that uphold their decisions. Not so in Honduras.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:12 pmhttp://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/other-views/story/1120408.html .
tim.ned Says:
Mel Zelaya was another Castro and Chavez want-a-be. In light of the reality of the situation, someone somehow turned the events into an evil Bush agenda. The supreme court of Honduras ordered his ouster which is now finally being confirmed by news sources. The statements by our state department are a terrible mistake. Where would our democracy be without our supreme court?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:12 pm
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Do explain how the Supreme Court ordering a military coup to overthrow the President is in any way “democratic.” Would you consider it “democracy” if the Supreme Court ordered Obama or Bush deposed on a whim?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm#45. You write as is socialism is something bad. The US and especially capitalism, have no moral superiority or humane high ground versus any old or new socialist country anymore.
The US government jails “suspected terrorists” and “enemy combatants” without due process or constitutional protections, it wiretaps its citizens without warrants, it tortures, it murders “terrorists” while in custody. The US government provides trillions in bailouts and bonuses for the wealthiest Wall Street bankers and we, the people, can’t even get a single payer health care plan on the table for discussion.
Give me a break about press censorship in Venezuela and lecture me on what President Chavez did for the poor people in this country when oil prices were $147 a barrel.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pmChavez is alright. I’m guessing he’s probably aware that United Fruit and SweatShop inc., etc., is in some regards bigger than President Obama; so prompting a condemnation from the President of SuperPower may actually be doing them both a favor. Now, they are on the same page— vocally condemning the coup.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pmIf any American President was ordered by the Supreme Court, either democrat or republican, to surrender power based upon constitutional law and they refused, than they would be physically removed if such action called for. The process was in place for Richard Nixon before he resigned.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pmstewarjt Says:
Give me a break about press censorship in Venezuela and lecture me on what President Chavez did for the poor people in this country when oil prices were $147 a barrel.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
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Yeah – he used it as an opportunity to give himself some good public relations in a country whose leader he frequently insulted…
Hugo Chavez is no saint, and he’s no demon, either. He’s just a very skilled politician who knows how to play the game, occasionally with some dirty tricks.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:36 pmtim.ned Says:
If any American President was ordered by the Supreme Court, either democrat or republican, to surrender power based upon constitutional law and they refused, than they would be physically removed if such action called for. The process was in place for Richard Nixon before he resigned.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Which article of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the authority to order the removal of a sitting U.S. President?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:37 pmI’m not sure at what fork in the road you took this discussion south. Do you really believe that any sitting president who refused to vacate the white house would not be forcibly removed? Our representatives can impeach our leaders. Fortunately our presidents understand the nature of a peaceful power transition and such acts have never occurred. But you pose an interesting question. Where do you believe the action would come from should such action be required? I quite frankly don’t know. I suspect through the impeachment process. Another question. Would you like to Obama overturn the eight year limit on the presidency and stay in power?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pmstewarjt Says:
#45. You write as is socialism is something bad. The US and especially capitalism, have no moral superiority or humane high ground versus any old or new socialist country anymore.
I completely agree with you re: the USofA superiority. And I don’t claim that socialism is bad: I claim that brainwashing children is bad, be it by socialists or capitalists or enviromentalists or whomever.
The US government jails “suspected terrorists” and “enemy combatants” without due process or constitutional protections, it wiretaps its citizens without warrants, it tortures, it murders “terrorists” while in custody. The US government provides trillions in bailouts and bonuses for the wealthiest Wall Street bankers and we, the people, can’t even get a single payer health care plan on the table for discussion.
All of those are activities which have been commented and criticized here. So you’re preaching to the choir.
Give me a break about press censorship in Venezuela and lecture me on what President Chavez did for the poor people in this country when oil prices were $147 a barrel.
I can very damn well criticize the press censorship in Venezuela while commending Chavez on helping the poor people. It’s not an “either/or” scenario. I don’t see why you can’t have free press and also a socialist country, at the same time.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
I can very damn well criticize the press censorship in Venezuela while commending Chavez on helping the poor people. It’s not an “either/or” scenario. I don’t see why you can’t have free press and also a socialist country, at the same time.
“free press” is definitely a good thing.
But I’m not so sure how “free” most countries’ press is in general. Who owns the newspapers and tv outlets? What are the interests of those owners, whether they be financial or ideological?
July 1st, 2009 at 3:12 pmYou missed 45 before you went on your rant! I don’t know the process as I am not as smart as you, as the eloquence in your post points out. The point is that the facts from Honduras are coming out and the picture is quite different today than a week ago.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:17 pmtim.ned Says:
I’m not sure at what fork in the road you took this discussion south. Do you really believe that any sitting president who refused to vacate the white house would not be forcibly removed? Our representatives can impeach our leaders. Fortunately our presidents understand the nature of a peaceful power transition and such acts have never occurred.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
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Okay, if we want to go off on a ridiculous, hypothetical tangent, your point might be valid. True, if a sitting U.S. President were to somehow refuse to leave the White House at 12:01 on January 20th, then there would likely have to be some involvement by the Secret Service to remove him/her by force. However, the actual transfer of power would happen regardless. The old president would no longer control the football or be able to issue executive orders or travel in Marine One or command troops. So even in your ridiculous hypothetical, it would merely be a trespassing issue.
All of which is completely irrelevant to the situation in Honduras, in which an unpopular one-term President was trying to hold a non-binding referendum to gauge support for the idea of amending the Constitution to allow him to run for a second term.
That in itself is not undemocratic. It’s not a power grab. A reckless publicity stunt, yes, but not a power grab. The Supreme Court and the legislature weren’t having it. No problem. The President then tried to fire the Armed Forces chief, who also wasn’t having it and got the Supreme Court to reject that decision. Also no problem – that’s just due process duly processing.
When the sitting, democratically-elected President is yanked from his house in his pajamas by eight men carrying high-powered rigles, that is a problem. No matter how unpopular the President, no matter what kind of political scheming he was doing. It is a removal from office without due process, and it is inherently undemocratic. Such actions deserve the condemnation of the world.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:22 pmtim.ned Says:
Another question. Would you like to Obama overturn the eight year limit on the presidency and stay in power?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
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Moot point. He can’t. It would take a Constitutional Amendment to do that, which must be ratified by the state legislatures. It’s not something he could overturn by executive order or national referendum.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:30 pm#55. You’re right. Why decry the beam of the poor’s plight when you can trumpet the mote of censorship? Honestly, which one gets more attention in the US capitalist, corporate media and even here?
Preaching to the choir assumes knowledge of individual singer’s songs that I do not have.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pm#52, Exactly what were these good public relations President Chavez had? Exactly how did he accomplish this? My recollection is the capitalist, corporate media line was the same one you’re spouting.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pmstewarjt Says:
#52, Exactly what were these good public relations President Chavez had? Exactly how did he accomplish this? My recollection is the capitalist, corporate media line was the same one you’re spouting.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
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I didn’t say he accomplished it. I just said he attempted it. It was a failed attempt to get himself some good press and make President Bush look foolish.
Do you really think Chavez’ motivation was to help the poor suffering United Statesians? There are plenty of poor people in Venezuela or Cuba or Bolivia or Ecuador who are MUCH more in need.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pm#63. You didn’t answer so my question stands: What did President Chavez do?
July 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pmmary lacewing Says:
“free press” is definitely a good thing.
But I’m not so sure how “free” most countries’ press is in general. Who owns the newspapers and tv outlets? What are the interests of those owners, whether they be financial or ideological?
I agree with you about the press not being completely free of ideology in many countries. Maybe “free press” is a little bit hard to find in this world, but at least there are many options available (to one degree or another), and that’s better than having only one voice (the President’s) in your country’s media.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pmstewarjt Says:
#63. You didn’t answer so my question stands: What did President Chavez do?
July 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Donated 100 gallons of free heating oil to 200,000 U.S. families last year through Citgo.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pmstewarjt Says:
You’re right. Why decry the beam of the poor’s plight when you can trumpet the mote of censorship?
Are you serious? We can’t talk about something bad happening because something worse is also happening? And when we deal with the poor’s plight, will someone complain that we’re not talking about the killings in the Congo? And when we do, someone will complain that we’re not talking about the millions of people dying of AIDS in Africa.
Preaching to the choir assumes knowledge of individual singer’s songs that I do not have.
Well, let’s check the songs on our playlist then:
- The US government jails “suspected terrorists” and “enemy combatants” without due process or constitutional protections,
- it wiretaps its citizens without warrants,
- it tortures,
- it murders “terrorists” while in custody.
- The US government provides trillions in bailouts and bonuses for the wealthiest Wall Street bankers
- we, the people, can’t even get a single payer health care plan on the table for discussion.
All of these stories have appeared time and again here in TP. I can get you links to the corresponding threads, even.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pmThat in itself is not undemocratic. It’s not a power grab. A reckless publicity stunt, yes, but not a power grab. The Supreme Court and the legislature weren’t having it. No problem. The President then tried to fire the Armed Forces chief, who also wasn’t having it and got the Supreme Court to reject that decision. Also no problem – that’s just due process duly processing.
When the sitting, democratically-elected President is yanked from his house in his pajamas by eight men carrying high-powered rigles, that is a problem. No matter how unpopular the President, no matter what kind of political scheming he was doing. It is a removal from office without due process, and it is inherently undemocratic. Such actions deserve the condemnation of the world.
Outstanding post! I agree and perhaps with your first paragraph I was the one that took the wrong fork in the road as we both hope that such a scenario is ridiculous. We will definitely disagree with the facts of your other paragraphs as there seems to be definitely differences in opinion. Zelaya weeks before continued to disobey the law. He called for a national constitutional convention which the Supreme Court stated could only be called by congress. And when his military commander disobeyed his orders to enforce it anyways, Zelaya tried to dismiss him. He has taken on many similar tactics as Chavez. Mob intimidation. I believe the story will definitely be different once more facts come out.
July 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pmAt least Venezuela has government-sponsored health care.
July 1st, 2009 at 5:32 pmI think Obama’s afraid all the corporate trade deals aren’t going to go the way his political contributors want.
What a cheap shot to someone he met not long ago. It’s Obama who’s sounding like Bush, if you ask me.
“Is Chavez a drunk and a cokehead?”
Is the pope Catholic?
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:33 amReally ? While Pres. Obama was making obscure and undefined comments on the Honduran situation and pretending to be “concerned” while not cutting off finantial aid to the illegal government of Mr. Goriletti, Chavez and the ALBA group organized the isolation of the Honduran fascists.
To be quoting a member of Accion Democratica of former kleptocrat president Carlos Andres Perez is nothing less than ridiculous. Perez’s party is currently running at around 3% of the Venezuelan electorate.
Of course, how can the American people know about these things. Misinformation is part of the American Way of Life!
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 amchiroptera toasterhead Says:
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tim.ned Says:
If any American President was ordered by the Supreme Court, either democrat or republican, to surrender power based upon constitutional law and they refused, than they would be physically removed if such action called for. The process was in place for Richard Nixon before he resigned.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Which article of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the authority to order the removal of a sitting U.S. President?
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None. He is an idiot. Only impeachment can remove a President. The SC has no such authority.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 amtim.ned Says:
I’m not sure at what fork in the road you took this discussion south. Do you really believe that any sitting president who refused to vacate the white house would not be forcibly removed?
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Zelaya had six months more left in his term. Do you have evidence that Honduran constitution gives their Supreme Court the right to just demand the President vacate? WAS he impeached? Why no he wasnt. It was a coup.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 amEugeneDebs!
Yea! Good to see you man.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am#67. Apparently we value freedoms differently. That’s fine and with that you make my point for me that everyone at TP does not sing the same tune.
Can you provide another reference for your claim that President Chavez wants to control all the media in his country? I don’t read Spanish so one in English would help. There should be English news stories on the same subject since we have a free press and one ideologically opposed to Chavez. Certainly such a story line would sell ad space in the capitalist, corporate media.
It is not a question of whether Constitutional violations and other heinous US crimes receive media attention, it is one of emphasis and frequency as Glenn Greenwald illustrates here.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pmFirst you never read my other posts. But my contacts in Honduras state that the Supreme Court is anxiously awaiting the return of Mel. If he dares he will be arrested at the airport and the corruption charges are knee deep in documentation. One Communist tyrant down, four more to go!
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm