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Republicans On House Census Subcommittee Rebuke Bachmann’s Fearmongering As ‘Illogical’ And ‘Illegal’

bachmannAs ThinkProgress has repeatedly pointed out, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has been bragging about the fact that she plans not to answer Census questions this year, which is a violation of federal law punishable with a fine up to $5,000. Bachmann has been mocked by Stephen Colbert and criticized harshly by the largest Minnesota newspaper for her conspiratorial stance.

Now, in the latest rebuke of her off-the-wall claims about the Census, three out of the four House Republicans on the subcommittee that oversees the Census have released a statement calling her boycott plan “llogical, illegal and not in the best interest of our country”:

“Boycotting the constitutionally mandated Census is illogical, illegal and not in the best interest of our country,” Reps. Patrick McHenry (N.C.), Lynn Westmoreland (Ga.) and John Mica (Fla.), members of the Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census and National Achieves, said in a statement Wednesday.

“[A] boycott opens the door for partisans to statistically adjust Census results,” the trio’s statement said. “The partisan manipulation of census data would irreparably transform the Census from being the baseline of our entire statistical system into a tool used to wield political power in Washington.”

According to Roll Call, the three Republicans “approached Bachmann privately over the past few weeks and asked her to stop the boycott,” but “decided to go public because Bachmann appeared unfazed by their request.” Bachmann pushed her boycott plan on Monday in an interview with Sean Hannity.

Census officials have been meeting with Bachmann to try to talk her down from her illogical concerns. CongressDaily reports that McHenry even “showed her printed census materials in the attempt to dispel her fears.” But she remained skeptical. A GOP source said, “As long as Fox News keeps calling, she’s going to keep going.”

Update Bachmann's spokesperson, Debbee Keller, told Roll Call that "Congresswoman Bachmann cannot be reached, but we appreciate their views and hope to be able to work with them to keep ACORN — which has earned public mistrust through its repeated voter registration fraud — out of the Census." PolitiFact found that Bachmann's claims about ACORN and the Census are "ridiculously wrong."


93 Responses to “Republicans On House Census Subcommittee Rebuke Bachmann’s Fearmongering As ‘Illogical’ And ‘Illegal’”

  1. drago says:

    Michele Bachmann is a F * * K T A R D!


  2. evangenital says:

    Does she have something on her hands?


  3. evangenital says:

    She obviously has nothing important on her mind – just her usual crap.


  4. dumbstruck says:

    If that idiot Patrick McHenry thinks you’re illogical, then you must be a real first class dumbass.


  5. madstork123 says:

    That Shelley. She funny. (in a pathetic sort of way)


  6. PissedOffVeteran says:

    “As long as Fox News keeps calling, she’s going to keep going.”

    We can only hope! Between MB and SP it’s hard to chose who is more crazy.


  7. Bobwurst says:

    Bachmann’s spokesperson, Debbee Keller, told Roll Call that “Congresswoman Bachmann can not be reached

    There’s no cell coverage in crazyland…

    And please, don’t talk her out of the boycott, people who complain about government spending don’t deserve government services.


  8. evangenital says:

    Rupert Murdoch thinks that she is hot.


  9. The Young Republican says:

    Everywhere one looks these days, there are nothing but black
    faces staring back from TV, websites, advertisements junkmail. You name it, there’s a black face on it. Even children’s cartoons in predominantly white areas are now featuring hastily constructed black characters. Seemingly overnight, the socialist liberal traitors have succeeded where blacks did not – they have marginalized and trivialized whitey.

    How did this happen? The largest population group in the United States of America has lost it’s spine. Yes, white people in America no longer have a single spine between the entire lot of them. They have allowed the media and public schools to hammer them into submission with politically correct indoctrination of themselves and their children. Did they protest, fight or object? No, they caved in without even a whimper. Sticks and stones, Whitey. Had Whitey taken to the blogs with any shred of courage, CNN, CBS, MSNBC and ABC might well be going under instead of the venerable newspapers who are vanishing at the rate of one per week.
    The millions who sacrificed their lives to build America are
    spinning in their graves. What a disgrace. Being an American used to mean something, something special. It symbolized the strong, the brave, the indomitable force that nothing could withstand. They were revered the world over for their freedoms, their minimally corrupt government, and their
    penchant for taking on the impossible with inevitable success. Everyone on the planet wanted to be an American.
    Today, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools. How did it come to this? The reasons are many, most unspoken for fear of peer criticism. Free speech, one of the most important rights of the American citizen, has been effectively neutered by the American media. It didn’t have to be that way, not in a capitalist society. If Americans cared, they could bend the media like a reed in the wind by expressing their discontent with media sponsors. A little sacrifice here and there, a little time, and not spending their money with those sponsors could put them both on their heels in less than a year. Americans simply don’t have the discipline to see something like that through. Most modern day Americans are weak and cowardly.They have more interest in fag or freak shows on television than their own person.
    Free America is over. Corporate America, liberals, and a now
    highly corrupt federal government have sold the entire country into slavery for 100 years. Americans stood by and watched it happen.

    Shame on all of you


  10. Gregor Samsa says:

    This woman is a train wreck. How embarrassing.

    She sounds as crazy as some of the conservative visitors we get at ThinkProgress… she might actually be, actually.


  11. Realness says:

    Michelle, is that you?


  12. ranus69 says:

    Did this “stupid kunt” pull a Sanford and now she’s gone into hiding?


  13. lokidog says:

    Census officials have been meeting with Bachmann to try to talk her down from her illogical concerns.

    Talk about exercises in futility!

    They’d have better luck locating Osama Bin Laden and converting him into a born again Christian.


  14. smidget says:

    What is wrong with this woman?

    I don’t know what the laws in Minnesota are, perhaps one of my fellow TP’ers can clarify them, but isn’t a call to willfully violate federal law an offense worthy of a recall? This was funny a few days ago, but it’s actually quite serious. She is encouraging her constituents to break the law.

    Now, I’ve heard a lot of legislators speak out against laws they don’t like, fight against laws they don’t want, or advocate laws that they do want, but I’ve never heard of one calling for the direct and blatant violation of the law. That is such a stunning example of incompetence, (and considering her government position and the Constitutional mandate for census taking, it strikes me as possible that such actions are treasonous), she has no business being anywhere NEAR Congress.


  15. EnnuiDivine says:

    When your statements are criticized by Lynn Westmoreland as being illogical, illegal, and not in the best interest of the country, you KNOW you’ve gone batshit insane.

    Maybe Bachmann’s just being uppity with her disdain of the Census


  16. Badmoodman says:

    Bachmann’s spokesperson, Debbee Keller…

    – - Seriously? That’s just perfect.


  17. pete says:

    As much as it pains a, sometimes, proud Minnesotan like myself to get all this negative publicity; I’m overjoyed that some of her colleagues in the House are finally calling her out.

    And the best part is that she, being Crazy Shelly, will just get crazier in her defense. Even the poor simple people who vote for her are bound to start hearing it.


  18. Count Istvan says:

    I really hope YR’s comments were a parody. And yes Bachmann is nuts.


  19. evangenital says:

    Why isn’t Young Repiggie volunteering for military service in Afghanistan?

    The Army is now accepting overweight evangelicals. Now is his chance to sign up.

    What’s he waiting for?

    Doesn’t he want to defend the sanctity of traditional marriage against the Taliban socialist brown menace Nazi thingies?


  20. Gregor Samsa says:

    And the stupid, bigoted Republican shows up to make a racist comment in the thread about another stupid and bigoted Republican. How cute.


  21. evangenital says:

    Michelle Bachman is throwing an exorcism at her home on Saturday night. It will be a repiggie fundraiser.

    It is rumored that Satan himself might show up.


  22. jonwisby says:

    this sounds more like the Donner Party than the republican party


  23. lokidog says:

    The Young Republican says:

    Today, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools.

    Only if “today” covers the period 1/20/01-1/20/09.

    OT – Thomm Hartmann is eviscerating the Christian wackjob that asked his sheeple to bring their guns to church right now.

    Too funny.


  24. Mike Hunt says:

    The words “Michelle Bachmann” and “illogical” are synonyms. Personally I hope she continues this nitwitted tirade and does so up to election day 2010.


  25. gummble-bee-itch says:

    I can’t decide whether Bachmann is stupid or crazy or if she’s just an incredible attention suck who has finally figured out a way to get on television. Well, get on Fox.

    It’s always possible that all three apply, of course.


  26. Hoodathunktick says:

    “Congresswoman Bachmann cannot be reached.”

    I believe that says it all.


  27. Wayne says:

    “Congresswoman Bachmann cannot be reached.”

    “The lights are on, but nobody’s home.”


  28. joe cantwell says:

    racist spam from tyr.

    here’s the link.

    ***

    is the tp mod awake?

    :|


  29. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Hmmm…where was idiot Bachmann’s concern over voter fraud in Florida in 2000 or in Ohio in 2004? Where was her concern over documented electronic vote flipping or rampant vote caging. Where was her concern for our privacy when she voted for the Bush FISA bill? Me doth thinketh that Michele Bachmann doth protest too much and is a completely 100% batsh*t crazy.

    Bachmann constituent: Hello, 9-1-1 please send a straight jacket immediately, I’m afraid congresswoman Bachmann has completely lost her marbles!


  30. Reggie says:

    Gregor Samsa Says:

    This Racist Troll spammed that same comment on several threads yesterday.


  31. paleolib says:

    I must disagree. I hope Bachmann follows through on her boycott and encourages her constituents (at least the ones who vote for her) to follow her example and refuse to cooperate in any manner with the census. Can’t wait for the electoral map that will result from the subsequent redistricting.


  32. zxbe says:

    Damn, that staffer for Bachmann needs to be fired. While she did get Acorn in there, she failed to also mention Soros.


  33. joe cantwell says:

    who was the fourth

    house Republican on the

    subcommittee that oversees the census

    who’s down with “the bachmann plan”?

    ???


  34. smidget says:

    Young Republican, if you’re going to go on a racist rant, don’t plagerize it.

    I flagged your post for both racism and plagerism. You may want to hope that no one on this site gets the wild hair to email those you ripped off to let them know what you have done. If that happens, start praying now that they don’t decide to sue you, as is their legal right.

    Ass.


  35. evangenital says:

    Michelle Bachmann and Jesus take care of each other’s split ends. They use the same conditioner.


  36. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Make sure you flag The Young Racist so he gets booted out.


  37. Tachinidae Leporello says:

    Acorn! Witches! Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My! Please, Please, Please let her rave on! It’s really unkind of me (she really Does need her meds, Badly!), but the Shelly Unreality Show is one of my Favorites!


  38. hormiga brava chavez says:

    It’s about time that some Republicans have objected to Bachmann’s comments.


  39. pete says:

    About 60 people have been slaughtered, in this country, since the election by people who “think” like Crazy Shelly. Right-wing extremists are snapping, one by one, and racking up body counts. And while this is going on…

    This Crazy b!tch keeps spreading her paranoia of the mythical “extreme left” and refuses to even call the killers she inspires “terrorists”. That’s because she’s one of them. In her twisted mind anyone who is white and wears a cross is absolved by God.

    I suppose now is as good a time as any to ask you all to contact your Representative, as I do regularly, and demand her censure before the House. Thanks.


  40. The Young Republican says:

    Now I like sugar and I like tea,
    But I dont like naggers No Siree,
    Theres two darn things,
    that’ll make me puke,
    Thats a hog eaten slop,
    And a big black sp00k!
    You know it cuz i show it,
    Like a barn yard rooster i crow it!
    And the end of a lacey pete,
    Would sure like to get a hold of Nagger haten me.

    Roses are red and violets are blue,
    And Naggers are black,
    you know thats true
    They dont mind cuz what the heck
    You gotta be black
    to get a welfare check
    And Im broke No joke I aint got a nickle for a coke
    And i aint black you see
    So uncle sam wont help,
    poor nagger haten me

    J1gga Boo J1gga Boo Where are you
    I’s here in the woodpile,
    watchin you (nagger)
    J1gga Boo J1gga Boo Come out now
    I’s scared of the white man,
    way down south (nagger)
    Stick your black head out,
    and ill spit at it!
    And the end of a lacey pete
    cant keep you away from nagger haten me.

    Mirror mirror on the wall
    who is the blackest of them all!?
    A man named king it aint no doubt,
    Hes causing lots of trouble,
    with his baboon mouth!
    heroic he do it its caused by the trouble hes a brewin
    And the end of a lacey pete keep you away from nagger haten me

    Hey mister president what do ya say,
    When are we whites gonna have our day?
    The naggers had theres
    For such a long long time
    Im whitenin its time that i had mine!
    You know it Cuz i show it,
    stick your black head out,
    And ill tow it!


  41. Republicans Love Facts says:

    Are you far left whack-jobs trying to say that you agree on every single issue?


  42. cwarddc says:

    Obviously, this woman is mentally ill. Did she go off her meds? Or does she needs to be put on some? Either way, something is not right upstairs.


  43. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Michele Bachmann has a history of being uninformed, a fear monger, a conspiracy theorist and a user to elevate herself.

    In the 90’s she ran for the school board in Stillwater, Minnesota. She was a very vocal opponent against the Minnesota Graduation Standards known as “Profile Of Learning” which stirred up fear and fed mythical liberal conspiracy theories among the far right wing activists in Minnesota.

    She would be invited to speak at social events in Church basements across her district where she would spread her delusional rantings yet never talking about God or how politics uses religion to steal or sway votes.

    She is a certifiable loon. A phony, plastic double talking attention lover who loves hearing the sound of her own voice. Her husband Marcus is a very successful clinical therapist, perhaps he needs to start treating his warped wife ASAP!


  44. har5125 says:

    I had never heard of Michele “Anti-American” Bachmann or watched Hardball with Chris Matthews until I just happened to flip on Hardball for the first time on Oct 17,2008. After she was done talking I had to pick my jaw off of the floor.


  45. Bobwurst says:

    The young republican is typical of his breed:, too stupid to have an original thought, too lazy to write its own words, too self-centered to cite its source… It’s a republican allright.


  46. hanshiro the antlion says:

    Why not change this from “Think Progress” to Bash Irrelevant Republicans 24/7?”

    Obama is floating the worst policy of detention in US history and all TP has is bashing Bachmann? Again? After bashing Steele? After Bashing Inhofe? Notice a pattern? Christ, could these irrelevant imbeciles be easier target; While TP posts are increasingly bereft of any substantive, urgent information or calls to action in favor of hurling insults at conservative, intellectually challenged meatballs?

    Where’s the “Progress” part, since the “Think”ing is reduced to the amateur equivalent of a tired, insult-trading sitcom?

    C’mon TP, this is getting old. I want to “Think Progress” but all you’re serving is petulant sniping at democrats from republicans.

    Where’s the substance? Where’s the beef?!


  47. blackwidow says:

    Bachmann’s spokesperson, Debbee Keller, told Roll Call “lalalalalalalala I can’t hear you lalalalalala Acorn lalalalalalalalalal”


  48. smidget says:

    @Republicans Love Facts

    No. No one said that. No one hinted at that. Even saying such an incredibly off-topic and unprompted statement makes your screenname deliciously oxymoronic.

    And speaking of moronic…..


  49. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    The Young Republican should change IT’S name to the Dumb Republican, but add a number after it’s name so that IT isn’t confused with the other dumb republicans who come here to spew their hate, lies and recreated history.


  50. Lunaluz says:

    Why are Michele and The young Republican not under restraints yet???????????


  51. smidget says:

    Actually the Young Republican should lynch itself.

    Racists don’t deserve to breathe our oxygen. They are subhuman, worthless pieces of garbage that will die slowly, painfully, and alone if the universe is even remotely just.


  52. Bobwurst says:

    har5125 Says:
    I had never heard of Michele “Anti-American” Bachmann or watched Hardball with Chris Matthews until I just happened to flip on Hardball for the first time on Oct 17,2008. After she was done talking I had to pick my jaw off of the floor.

    She’s the one who put the vulcan sleeper hold on bush after one of his state of the union mumbles and wouldn’t let go until she shoved her tongue down his throat:http://crooksandliars.com/2007/01/24/rep-michele-bachmann-hearts-bush


  53. joe cantwell says:

    The Young Republican Says:
    Now I like sugar and I like tea,
    But I dont like naggers No Siree,
    Theres two darn things,
    that’ll make me puke,
    Thats a hog eaten slop,
    And a big black sp00k!
    You know it cuz i show it,
    Like a barn yard rooster i crow it!
    And the end of a lacey pete,
    Would sure like to get a hold of Nagger haten me.

    Roses are red and violets are blue,
    And Naggers are black,
    you know thats true
    They dont mind cuz what the heck
    You gotta be black
    to get a welfare check
    And Im broke No joke I aint got a nickle for a coke
    And i aint black you see
    So uncle sam wont help,
    poor nagger haten me

    J1gga Boo J1gga Boo Where are you
    I’s here in the woodpile,
    watchin you (nagger)
    J1gga Boo J1gga Boo Come out now
    I’s scared of the white man,
    way down south (nagger)
    Stick your black head out,
    and ill spit at it!
    And the end of a lacey pete
    cant keep you away from nagger haten me.

    Mirror mirror on the wall
    who is the blackest of them all!?
    A man named king it aint no doubt,
    Hes causing lots of trouble,
    with his baboon mouth!
    heroic he do it its caused by the trouble hes a brewin
    And the end of a lacey pete keep you away from nagger haten me

    Hey mister president what do ya say,
    When are we whites gonna have our day?
    The naggers had theres
    For such a long long time
    Im whitenin its time that i had mine!
    You know it Cuz i show it,
    stick your black head out,
    And ill tow it!

    July 1st, 2009 at 4:39 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    Are you far left whack-jobs trying to say that you agree on every single issue?

    July 1st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    ***

    they roam in pairs.

    † † †


  54. joe cantwell says:

    doc,

    welcome to

    name jacking 101.


  55. evangenital says:

    Why isn’t the young repiggie enlisting in the military instead of wasting our time with his puerile drivel?

    Walk your talk, stud. Sign up, and prove your manhood.

    Quite often, the white guys who get all racist on our non-white brothers and sisters are generally the worst looking examples of the white race.

    Rush Limbaugh is a fat pig. Obama is fit and toned.

    Who looks better?


  56. Bobwurst says:

    July 1st, 2009 at 4:39 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    Are you far left whack-jobs trying to say that you agree on every single issue?

    July 1st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    ***

    they roam in pairs.

    The RNC hires summer interns…


  57. pete says:

    Well gee, hanshiro. I’m just a poor Minnesotan and American patriot who thinks that a raving lunatic in the U.S. House, representing a District only a few blocks from my home, is pretty big news. Since the local MSM has been largely silent about her alarming extremism, I applaud every source who brings her up. Every mention she gets serves to expose her to a largely ignorant base of support.

    Stories like this give us hope. Hope that the truth will come out before the next election. Hope that her future opponents will receive national backing. And even hope that concerned citizens like us might force her colleagues to officially censure her and send a message that her kind of hateful batscat is intolerable.

    If you want to hold others to a higher standard, hanshiro, I beg you to contact your Representative and demand Crazy Shelly’s censure. And please don’t presume to judge what stories are worthy. In my little corner of the World, this story thread gives me a platform to make a nationwide, if to a selective audience, appeal for help in removing this abomination from the halls of power.


  58. evangenital says:

    By the way, I must say that the young repiggie has accurately summed up the racial attitudes of the white southern repiggies.

    Michael Steele should take note. This is the reality of his party.


  59. glogrrl says:

    The young republican:
    Crawl back in your hole, you hate-filled moron. We’ve already read your racist screed on several other progressive websites. Just like every other white supremesist, your limited brain cells just keep repeating the same tired old sick rantings…which stink to high heaven like the pile of crap they are. The majority of Americans have spoken, and they no longer wanted to be lead by a wrinkeled old white man–or a lunatic fringe hockey mom. It’s 2009, not 1809…get with the program. Or, if you don’t like that, do what all your Reputhuglican contemporaries always say, “Go live somewhere else.”


  60. hellinabucket says:

    Young P. would be a victim of fratricide if it were to join the military.


  61. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    How effective is the insane, delusional ramblings of Michele Bachmann? My older sister, a republican followed Bachmann in the early days, she worships Bachmann now.

    Back in the 90’s she’d come back from a day of activism or after attending a Bachmann event and would call my other sister and swear that she was being followed by black helicopters.

    That is how paranoid and delusional her supporters are and unfortunately there are many of them here in Minnesota. They truly believe there is a grand liberal conspiracy, that liberals and socialists have taken control of our government, our schools, the media, etc, etc,…never mind that the banks, corporations and war industry are what control our government and that it was the moral majority in the 70’s & 80’s who removed the history of the labor movement and the fights between workers against ruthless corporate owners from all the history books in the public school system.

    They


  62. dbadass says:

    Hi The Young Republican,
    Wanna chat?


  63. Trollspotter says:

    joe cantwell Says:

    they roam in pairs.

    One’s from Stormfront, the other’s from Olbermann Watch. Same deal, two peas in a pod.


  64. Reggie says:

    dbadass

    Freemarketliberal now sleeps with the fishes


  65. belaccifer lacca says:

    The young and republican sez:Free speech, one of the most important rights of the American citizen, has been effectively neutered by the American media.

    Funniest thing I’ve read in a long time… all this free speech is being killed by the free press… when will we silence media so that people can be heard?

    When will we learn?

    heh.


  66. sscncturn64 says:

    I thought this beatch was irrevalent?


  67. curious says:

    Bachmann has a congenital defect. Intelligence. She doesn’t have it and cannot acquire it. It is much too late. And like most airheads she never let’s facts get in the way.

    It reminds me of what Reagan did one time. He wanted to dump the welfare system. So he gave out his often told story of the lady welfare cheat who defrauded the government out of a half million dollars in aid, and drove a Cadillac. Finally this one reporter decided to check the facts. He caught up with Reagan and told him he had it wrong. That bad as it was,it was only 6,000 and she drove an old car. Reagan looked him in the eye and smiled. And he said,” yes but it was a good story wasn’t it?”

    This kind of hyperbole and lies comes often from the right. Not just the talking heads, but from some of them in congress and the senate. They take it for granted the people will not check and won’t know different. They are wrong.

    This idiot. This Palin twin, likes the attention. She wants name recognition. And she doesn’t want to earn it through hard work and attention to detail. She hopes to get re-elected just from her name. I hope she is wrong. Perhaps the people in her state might get fed up with her antics. She truly has hoof in mouth disease.


  68. shoeless says:

    Caption: Of course it’s illegal. We’re Republicans. What’s the problem?


  69. pete says:

    Another possibility is that she plans on running for Governor! That’s enough to wake me up in a cold sweat. Can this country really afford to have another lunatic like her rise in the ranks of any party?


  70. Art says:

    Maybe Bachmann has something here.
    What would happen if all republicans refused to stand up and be counted?


  71. hanshiro the antlion says:

    56.Dr. Hussein Matt Says: Did Another Joe get a new moniker?

    No, actually I have had a bellyful of Obama’s smooth, sleight-of-hand bullsh¡t, bush-defending double-talk and the dem congress’s contortions to kiss big industry’s @ss at our expense.

    There is newsflash after newsflash that rival bush shenanigans out of this WH and congress and all we get here is “All Bachmann, All The Time,” type of coverage. Hell, I could save myself the trouble of commenting and just read TP’s source here; But I still think discussing and expanding on the important stuff is necessary….all we need is the important stuff!

    It’s just getting tiresome to expect progressive news and actions and instead get shallow, dem apologist, republican bashing analogous to a political ‘People’ magazine.


  72. shoeless says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Are you far left whack-jobs trying to say that you agree on every single issue?

    Of course not. Why would we act like Republicans?


  73. Bobwurst says:

    Hanshiro, start your own blog.


  74. Art says:

    You’ve got a point Hanshiro.
    And although it is fun, I get tired of the petty sniping also.


  75. klittle32 says:

    I don’t understand the big deal about voter registration fraud. ACORN paid volunteers/employees based on the number of voters they got to register, which provided them with incentive to file false registration applications, right? Well how did this affect the outcome of the election? Fraudulent registration does not equal fraudulent votes. So I really don’t see what the big stink is about. Yes, any instance of fraud is bad, especially in connection with elections b/c it diminishes the process’s credibility. But claims from the extreme right that imply that the 2008 presidential election was “stolen” by the dems in through ACORN are just ludicrous.

    Question: do the charges from the right about ACORN deserve a response from the dems? Do they have anything to gain by responding?


  76. joe cantwell says:

    Trollspotter Says:
    joe cantwell Says:

    they roam in pairs.

    One’s from Stormfront, the other’s from Olbermann Watch. Same deal, two peas in a pod.

    ….

    they’re so agreeable.

    ***


  77. pete says:

    I might add, klittle32, that the much discussed Federal charges are not against ACORN. The individuals charged defrauded ACORN and were discovered and turned in by ACORN officials.


  78. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    now nutty shelley,
    if the feds really wanted to “get you” they’d raid the fox “news” headquarters on a weekend morning and round up the whole lot of you clowns.


  79. Tirebiter in Sector R says:

    Wait a minute, let’s not get all hasty in flaming the Divine Miz B.

    What if this catches on with GOP districts all around the country? We could have an 80% Demo House! So let’s encourage our Goposaur friends to tell their constituents to disenfranchise themselves.


  80. dbadass says:

    The Privacy Center sucks ass…


  81. Purple State says:

    To some extent, I agree with hanshiro. There’s a lot of bashing going on here of the now-super-minority GOP. I understand the whole idea of “no resting on laurels”, but perhaps we need a little more positivity here and less attention at the Insignificant Party.

    Perhaps…a yin and yang? One part positive spin, one part negative spin?

    Or perhaps I just ought to be looking more at other progressive sites too.


  82. Dawn1954 says:

    Bozo The Neoclown Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    now nutty shelley,
    if the feds really wanted to “get you” they’d raid the fox “news” headquarters on a weekend morning and round up the whole lot of you clowns.

    July 1st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
    ————————————————————-

    They can start with Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Billo the clown… while the feds are at it, they can pick up Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter…

    Hey, does anyone have the phone# to the DOJ? LMFAO


  83. Leftside Annie says:

    *snicker*

    What a dumb twat. I know that’s a vulgar word, but OMG, if you’re going to go for the gusto and call a woman a dumb twat, well, Michelle Bachmann is the epitome of dumb twatness.


  84. dbadass says:

    twat isn’t a vulgar word. It is a silly fun word…


  85. tntster says:

    93 posts on the subject and not one with any substance….Does anyone know what the Constitution say concerning the Census? You might want to look, no, I’ll just post it for you so you can continue your progressive thinking.

    Today, the controlling law for the U.S. Census is Title 13 of the U.S. Code. There is a lot of census data collected in the United States today, such as economic figures, sales and production figures, and agricultural statistics. Still, the head count is the only part of the census that is called for by the Constitution. The code for the enumeration can be found in 13 USC 141. In this code, the census is directed to be taken in 1980 and every ten years thereafter, and that the count is to be taken on April 1. The returns must be completed within nine months for use in apportionment of representatives. The code also specifies a mid-decade census be taken in 1985 and every ten years thereafter. This count need not be a head count (sampling may be used) though the data cannot be used for apportionment.

    The code, at §141(g), notes that “As used in this section, ‘census of population’ means a census of population, housing, and matters relating to population and housing.”

    There are fines for non-response and for false response as well, though the amount has risen from the 1790’s $20. Today failure to respond can result in a $100 fine; providing false answers is a more severe offense, and carries a $500 fine. Recent news reports, however, indicate that punishment for failure to respond is not usually enforced. The controlling section of the Code is 13 USC 221.


  86. dbadass says:

    making friends I see…


  87. tntster says:

    Just adding a few facts to the debate or is it mud slinging?


  88. jb says:

    Bachmann should boycott existence. She’s using more than her share of oxygen.


  89. Zooey says:

    I just love Bachmann. She’s an endless source of hilarity. Now we have her spokesperson, “Debbee.” I really hope we get to hear more from her…


  90. labman57 says:

    I think all children should be required to listen to the interviews and speeches given by Michael Steele, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and now Cynthia Davis.

    Because listening to the mindless ramblings of these ignorant buffoons can be a positive motivator to stay in school and get a good education.


  91. Mark701 says:

    Poster #9 says “Today, Americans are scorned, laughed at, thought of as fools. How did it come to this?”

    It came to this because America is populated with bigots, homophobes, xenophobes and all around fools whose views are “legitimized” by folks like Limbaugh, Hannity and OReilly who take money from the weak minded to pay their multimillion dollar salaries.

    Want to know why America is despised in the world? Look in a mirror for your answer.


  92. mari2RR says:

    As a disgruntled Republican, it is my wish that Bachmann continues to push these inane ideas so that she may be one of the casualties of her own stupidity. I guess she does not even understand that the Census directly controls the number of Representatives from each state. Perhaps Republicans would be lucky enough that her own seat would be obliterated due to her leadership in the illegal “don’t fill our the form” movement. Of course, we would probably not be that lucky for this sort of unintended consequences to occur. So Sad, Too Bad!!!!


  93. BigTom says:

    Let’s be accurate about what Rep. Bachmann has called for. First of all she did not say that she would not answer any and all questions on the 2010 census. She said that she would answer the question about how many people were in her household and that would be it. The constitution in article 1, section 2 calls for this ‘actual enumeration’ so that the apportionment of representatives can be accomplished. She believes that any other questions to be an invasion of privacy and unconstitutional. So in answering the questions about the number of people in her household and if others followed suit MN or any other state would not lose any representation. She may be a whackjob but at least let’s be accurate about what she called for.



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