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Rove: Obama ‘Has Carried Pre-Packaged, Organized, Controlled, Scripted Events To A New Height’

Former Bush adviser Karl Rove went on Fox News this morning and attacked President Obama’s health care town hall meeting yesterday as “pre-packaged, organized, controlled, [and] scripted,” adding that the Bush administration would never have done something so audacious:

ROVE: This White House has carried pre-packaged, organized, controlled, scripted events to a new height, and they’re getting away with things that in any previous White House, the media would have eviscerated the press secretary and the White House for it.

Watch it:

ThinkProgress contacted a White House spokesperson who said that at yesterday’s health care town hall event in Virginia, half of the tickets were given out by the school (to “students, faculty, staff, as well as members of the health community from the area”) and the other half by the White House (”grassroots activists and people involved in the issue in the area”). The spokesperson then explained how questions were chosen:

The President posted a video on YouTube several days ago, saying respond to this video with questions for me on health care, and we got hundreds, and all of those are online. So in terms of the videos that were selected, anyone can look at the range and see which ones we did and didn’t select. That’s fully transparent. They’re all up on YouTube; they were all up yesterday on our website.

Because YouTube doesn’t actually have a voting function, our new media staff took videos that were rated highly by other users and selected, from among those, questions that represented the range of things being asked. So a lot of people in the progressive community still want a single-payer system, so the first question was from a single-payer advocate. We took a question from a Republican member of Congress, Mike Burgess, about medical malpractice reform.

The spokesperson then noted that there were also questions taken from people who were following along on Twitter and Facebook. When asked whether these questioners or audience members were pre-screened for their political ideology or whether they agreed with the President, the spokesperson replied, “Absolutely not.”

Of course, pre-screening for political ideology is exactly what the Bush administration did.

In March 2005, people seeking tickets to a Social Security event were quizzed about their support of President Bush and his Social Security plan ahead of time. In April 2005, Bush’s security detail threw out three people from an event in Colorado because they had a bumper sticker reading “No More Blood For Oil.” White House spokesman Trent Duffy said that if there’s any evidence people might “disrupt the president,” they “have the right to exclude those people from those events.”

Bush even screened the assembled group of soldiers he would meet in Iraq during a 2003 Thanksgiving visit: Soldiers had to fill out a questionnaire asking whether they supported Bush.

Transcript:

HEMMER: This was the scene at the White House in the press room before the town hall event took place on health care. Roll this with Helen Thomas.

(VIDEO) THOMAS: You have left open the suggestion that you are pumping the answers.

REID: Even if there’s a tough question, it’s a question coming from somebody who was invited or was screened — the question was screened.

GIBBS: Chip, Chip, let’s have this discussion at the conclusion, how about that?

THOMAS: No, no, no. We are having it now.

GIBBS: Well I’d be happy to have it now. Which question did you object to at the town hall meeting, Helen?

THOMAS: It’s a pattern. It isn’t the question. It’s a pattern of controlling the press. (END VIDEO)

HEMMER: Now, Chip Reid’s next to her from NBC. Look, people are talking about this today, not the town hall meeting. How does that hurt the cause and the message about health care reform?

ROVE: Well, look. I thought — I’m like Jonah Goldberg; I really find it unusual to be in agreement with Helen Thomas. But notice what Gibbs said. He said, in essence, you have the right to end in a question by e-mail and we have the right to determine whether or not we ask it, so what’s the problem? It was sort of like, it’s a free-flowing town hall meeting if you get to send in via Twitter or e-mail your question, not if we have free-flowing questions in the room.

This White House has carried pre-packaged, organized, controlled, scripted events to a new height, and they’re getting away with things that in any previous White House, the media would have eviscerated the press secretary and the White House for it.

HEMMER: And when something like this happens, you know, the credibility is shaken and the argument stands on weaker ground. It’s plain and simple.

ROVE: Well, they got what they wanted.



83 Responses to “Rove: Obama ‘Has Carried Pre-Packaged, Organized, Controlled, Scripted Events To A New Height’”

  1. Sandoz76 says:

    What a joke. The Fox audience is the only one that Karl can say this to with out being laughed off.


  2. eyeswideopen1 says:

    Yawwwn, Rove projecting again. Nothing new here.


  3. stateofthedivision says:

    New height? Only in that Obama is taller than Bush and works better off script.

    Karl delivers another new low for the red team.


  4. robbez_92107 says:

    Methinks the lady doth protest too much.


  5. CitiDC says:

    Scripted? Like the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED carrier landing? Still not owning up to that one, Karl?


  6. KaneJeeves says:

    Standard neocon tactic – accuse others of exactly what you yourself are guilty of.

    I want to know when TP is going to get serious investigating Rove? Is he that squeeky clean?


  7. evangenital says:

  8. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Why can’t Rove just STFU? I mean — his time on stage is over.

    Oh. Right. He’s talking on Fox News, and the only people Fox News is talking to these days are has-beens from the Bush administration.


  9. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Please, Karly. BushitCo catapulted the BSPropaganda with such care that this administration’s breath of fresh air is both welcome and needed.


  10. Another Joe says:

    Thank dems for not enforcing 2 subpeonas and holding this squealing pig accountable.

    Now faux puts him on the air regularly thumbing his fat nose at us.

    Yes, what he says is stooooooopid, but more so if the fact THE DEMS GAVE THIS CRIMINAL A FREE PASS!


  11. CageyCretin says:

    What’s the big deal? Republicans can do these things becasue their greatness and compassion and their ability to see the bottom line allow them to not have to cling to things like rules, or morals, or accountability.

    Besides, they can’t find anything substantial to complain about, so they have to invent these issues by thinking about how they had done it in the past.

    Rove is merely explaining how he and Bush had done these things by accusing the current administration of those same things, regardless of the actual facts (… oh…. I guess several others already identified Rove’s projection…).

    Piggy-boy…. why aren’t you in jail yet? Do you really think you will slide?


  12. jjm says:

    Rove and others of his ilk use this tactic almost to the exclusion of any other: attack Obama and any Democrat claiming they do what only Rove had the hideous audacity to imagine doing to begin with. Rove was a terribly transgressive political operative, admiring the disruptive tactics that early Nazi youth used to attack opponents. He has not one single ounce of integrity, and why any news organization would look to him for opinions is beyond me. Maybe the FCC should look into the lies his network pours out every day (e.g. that the US purchased Alaska in the 1950s for its oil!–Beck) and start fining them rather than hunting for foul language usage.


  13. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Why isn’t Rove in jail?


  14. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Y’know, it’s tempting to view Rover as an evil genius who knows exactly what buttons he’s pushing at any given moment. But I think he’s just a morally stunted reprobate whose personal defense mechanisms (projection, dishonesty, self-preservation) proved surprisingly effective with a core group of conservative voters.

    i think he’s just doing what he’s always done to survive, from the time he was a miserable, fat ugly child. I don’t see KKKarl ever experiencing a Lee Atwater “Come to Jesus” moment.


  15. evangenital says:

    Rove is a criminal. He should be facing charges for war crimes.


  16. Gregor Samsa says:

    Why should anyone listen to anything this man has to say? It seems Rove is willfully unaware he was the political advisor to the worst, most disastrous presidency in history.

    One thing he knows about, though, is carrying pre-packaged, organized, controlled, and scripted events to new heights.


  17. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Washington Post cancels lobbyist event amid uproar
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24441.html

    Washington Post Publisher and Chief Executive Officer Katharine Weymouth said today she was cancelling plans for an exclusive “salon” at her home where, for as much as $250,000, the Post offered lobbyists and association executives off-the-record, nonconfrontational access to “those powerful few”: Obama administration officials, members of Congress, and even the paper’s own reporters and editors.

    The astonishing offer was detailed in a flier circulated Wednesday to a health care lobbyist, who provided it to a reporter because the lobbyist said he felt it was a conflict for the paper to charge for access to, as the flier says, its “health care reporting and editorial staff.”
    (continued)

    .


  18. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Shouldn’t Karly be modeling his Orange Jumpsuit? That’d be a better use of his time.


  19. CageyCretin says:

    Proud Says:

    Nothing as to his own opinions of the topic, or his own opinions on anything, in general. He seems to be far more interested in telling the rest of us here what we are thinking, or what he thinks we should be thinking.


  20. CheeseFlap says:

    “I hold out my hands
    You put on the rubber gloves
    Now the fun begins”


  21. Zooey says:

    Shorter Rove: In my teeny tiny sad world, it’s true if I say it.


  22. Zooey says:

    CheeseFlap,

    I love your haiku. :D


  23. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Can Rove say

    ‘Plastic Turkey’

    ???


  24. texasrick says:

    These freeking tools have circled the wagons.

    They constantly share their warped perception of the world with each other (usually on Fix news) and hope that if they say enough negative stuff often enough, someone will believe them.

    This is coming from Mr. Fair play himself Karl Rove…


  25. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Would someone, anyone tell Rove over and over again that his math didn’t add up and he LOST…


  26. dasm says:

    If Rove weren’t such a hateful liar, he’d be hilarious. How anyone can even talk to him, let alone listen to him, is astounding.


  27. dasm says:

    People here have commented on Bush/Rove/Cheney photo-ops such as Mission Accomplished & the fake turkey, but I also recall the photoshopped image of Bush with all the troops behind him, where it was discovered many of the faces were duplicated to make the crowd larger.


  28. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Prod Says:
    What happened to the great promise of openess and transparency in the White House. Of course when Bambi runs his White House staged like a Broadway play

    First, that’s President Obama to you.

    Second, just because you and KKKarl Rove say that the Obama White House is “staged like a Broadway play” doesn’t mean it’s so.

    In fact, given the credibility that both you and KKKarl have earned, the extreme likelihood is that whatever you say is the opposite of reality.


  29. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Zooey Says:
    Shorter Rove: In my teeny tiny sad world, it’s true if I say it.

    Shorter Prod:

    In my teeny tiny sad world, it’s true of KKKarl says it.


  30. CageyCretin says:

    Proud Says:

    What happened to the great promise of openess and transparency in the White House.

    Are you truly concerned over this? If so, then you were NOT pleased with the prior level of transparency and openness, correct? Or are you just bringing this up as a partisan attempt to disillusion non-republicans? I doubt the former is the case, and that the latter is the truth — and that you are not interested in greater transparency and openness in government, as you were perfectly satisfied with the levels during Bush’s tenure.

    Of course when Bambi runs his White House

    Racist? If not, can you defend referring to the president of the US as “bambi”? What does that mean? And, is that some veiled threat to the preisdent of the US?

    staged like a Broadway play

    Hyperbole much?

    all you little minded libs

    Ah… that really makes your argument — disparge the audience. Nice. Classy.

    on cue start crying,” Well Bush did this and Bush did that”

    Comparisons are not unrealistic. And I still have not heard “you little minded cons” shut up about Clinton.

    Why can’t you hold your dear leader accountable to keep his word,

    So, you are not an American? I hope you have a green card if you are in this country, then. If you are an American, then President Obama IS YOUR president, too. Just like Bush WAS all “the little minded libs’” president when he was in office. Hate it as much as you like, that’s the fact. Or do you deny the fact? And holding ANY politician “to their word”? Show me when that has been done to any degree like that which you expect. Politcians are “held accountable to their word” at the ballot box, AFTER they have had their full time in office to try to keep their word. And how, precisely, do YOU want the “little minded libs” to hold the POTUS “accountable to his word”? And why aren’t YOU doing that. if you have such a problem with his word?

    apparently according to the left he is running the White House the same as Bush, so who are you really mad at?

    According to WHAT “left”? Is this Limbaugh telling you this (I’ll bet it is, isn’t it?)? Limbaugh does NOT speak for “the left”, nor does he even know the thoughts of those “on the left”. His opinion is completely partisan and is muddied by his hatred of anything that does not agree with him (see apologies of sitting elected republican officials who have DARED to mock Limbaugh publicly….).

    See — YOU are trying to tell others what THEY believe, and what they should think and do.

    I hope you are not Christian, as you have crossed the line repeatedly as to judging others.

    No need to respond. I was not posting this to speak WITH you, I was posting this ABOUT you.

    ;/

    :O

    :]


  31. Zimzone says:

    Turdblossoms come and Turdblossoms go.

    When it comes to KKKarl, he just blows.


  32. The Young Republican says:

    0bama without his teleprompter: uhh umm uh well umm uh uh errr um well ok but uhmm CHANGE


  33. spencers mom says:

    I don’t see KKKarl ever experiencing a Lee Atwater “Come to Jesus” moment.

    Ralph, Atwater’s moment came as he lay dying of cancer. With Rove, it appears even Satan isn’t interested, so we’re stuck with him. I don’t wish death on him, but a stroke that knocked out his ability to speak…

    PEACE


  34. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    “pre-packaged, organized, controlled, [and] scripted,” – sounds exactly like how the Rove-run Bush crime family ran America into the ground after stealing the Presidential Election in November 2000.


  35. MapleStreet says:

    So 33. The young republican didn’t get what he wanted by posting racist poems, so now he has backed off to racist stereotypes of blacks not being able to speak.

    Only trouble, YouTube has massive videos of Obama speaking without a teleprompter.

    But TYR has already poisoned his reputation.


  36. Zimzone says:

    The Young Republic without his talking points handed to him…

    *
    **
    ***crickets chirping***


  37. CageyCretin says:

    TYR is a racist POS.

    Flag and forget.

    (we don’t need the bible ‘n’ guns racist ‘n’ ready to go shootin’ types hanging around here….)


  38. MapleStreet says:

    What I was going to say: As much as I both like and admire President Obama, I must admit that when it comes to scripting events, he is a rank amateur when compared to the repubs.

    President Obama apparently doesn’t even know to screen the bumper stickers on the cars carryiing people in – that way you can harvest the ones with the Palin stickers on their cars and detain them for 2 hours.

    President Obama doesn’t know to refuse attendance in the Congressional gallery to anyone who has Bush underwear.

    President Obama doesnt’ know to beat up 60 year old librarians standing on street corners near his speeches.

    Really, the guy really needs to get a clue !


  39. pete says:

    Ain’t it funny? Our President, in contrast to his predecessor, speaks eloquently and is informed about the subjects he addresses so, the GOoPers attack him for it.


  40. Hoodathunktick says:

    And the saddest part is that as long as the US does nothing about the war criminals loose in our country, we will have to listen to this. They are heroes, running around free, bragging, so they must be right.

    It is much more difficult to take to the bully pulpit when wearing orange coveralls and shackles.


  41. Mugsy says:

    Whenever they accuse you of doing/thinking something, it’s because THEY’RE doing/thinking it and assume everyone else is doing it too.

    I first noticed this about Republicans some 20 years ago (under Reagan) and I have YET been proven wrong.


  42. P.D. says:

    Bush looked like a deer in headlights and Rove is complaining about Obama? LOL! They are desparate.


  43. Keith H. says:

    Now there’s an ‘Architect’ that couldn’t orchestrate the construction of a honey-bucket.


  44. pags2 says:

    This just proves that the liberal media press is giving Obama a pass. Sarcasm off


  45. The Moderate Squad says:

    Why is it that every time I see some Bushie like Dr. Bunsen HoneyRove deperately trying to attack Obama or rewrite his own history I don’t even have to look for the Fox logo? I remember telling a friend once a couple years ago after watching Fox “Well, at least they’ve hit rock-bottom ethics-wise. There’s no way they could get any sleazier…”

    My apologies to my friend Marty for my being so very wrong…


  46. Zimzone says:

    The reason Bush didn’t use teleprompters is that he can’t READ.


  47. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Rove is, has been and always will be a political dirty tricks hatchet man.
    Political analyst, not so much if at all…


  48. Hoodathunktick says:

    Zimzone Says:
    The reason Bush didn’t use teleprompters is that he can’t READ.

    At least not without pictures of goats.


  49. xero says:

    The Young Republican Says: “teleprompterz!!!” drool…

    Pitiful. So 2 months ago.


  50. barfly says:

    The Young Republican Says:

    0bama without his teleprompter: uhh umm uh well umm uh uh errr um well ok but uhmm CHANGE

    Remember “I know how hard it is to put food on your family?”

    Even with a teleprompter, Bush was still was the unrivaled king of malaprops.


  51. joe cantwell says:

    The Young Republican Says:
    0bama without his teleprompter: uhh umm uh well umm uh uh errr um well ok but uhmm CHANGE

    July 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    forget your link?

    :|


  52. WaltinTexas says:

    This un-American, treasonous, Nazi has been doing this for years. Take what you are or have done, or your weakness and then accuse the other guy of being or doing just that. Create your own reality. As his student Bush said, “You have to keep repeating the propaganda…” This is the guy who said Bush was hated because he, “represented middle America”. What a joke. Rove and his party are nothing but a detriment to our country and to “middle America” and always have been. His job is, and always has been, to mislead and fool the easily fooled to get their votes in order to benefit their base- the haves and have mores.


  53. energylab says:

    TP and Karl Rove are exactly the same animal. Both pick up on some incredibly obvious and hypocritical moment in the life of someone from “the other side” and then point out some other example of hypocrisy from the other side without ever looking in the mirror. Hey, TP, why don’t you follow the Chris Dodd down the rabbit hole. Why don’t you criticize PBO for reversing himself about Guantanamo Bay since he doesn’t think he can follow through now that he knows more http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090702/US.Obama.AP.Interview/


  54. Leftside Annie says:

    Oh, just eat shite and die, KKKarl, you pudgy evil little barstid.


  55. kasinca says:

    Rove you were part of an administration that was a failure. Why aren’t you in prison?


  56. kasinca says:

    energylab Says:

    Go away troll. You are wasting bandwidth.


  57. glogrrl says:

    OMG!! Is he SERIOUS?!! What a projectionist! And I ‘m not talkin’ about film. That’s his M.O. and the motto of all the Faux Noisers and adherents to The Kkkarl Rove School of Obfuscation—always accuse (and LOUDLY) your opponent of the most egregious things YOU do–a type of “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” mentality. Face it, Karl…Obama is light years smarter and ahead of Dubya (and you)….and the teleprompter thing? Come on, politicians of all parties have been using them since they were invented. At least Obama sounds intellegent and well informed when he speaks..qualities sadly lacking in King George.


  58. okie dokie says:

    Geez! What kind of surreal puppet show was that! Totally unscripted, I’m sure.

    We all know KKKarl”s job is to injure the credibility of anyone outside of the Bush cult. Fox provides him the stage to document the patriotic moment. Rove posts the video on his pac website. Angry white people watch it and nod their heads in agreement. Their outrage inspires them to send Karl money so he can represent their hate and disgust in future appearances. All in a days work.

    PayPal accepted.


  59. mary lacewing says:

    pete Says:

    Ain’t it funny? Our President, in contrast to his predecessor, speaks eloquently and is informed about the subjects he addresses so, the GOoPers attack him for it.

    This one struck me as funny too Pete, because if Rove thinks that after watching him in action for a good ten years…well let’s just say that if Obama came off as less slick Rove would then claim that Obama was a novice, not ready for primetime or whatever.

    Seeing right through you Rove!
    “getting away with things” lol, sounds pretty whiny to me.


  60. okie dokie says:

    Naomi Klein said (on Real Time): The Republicans are revealing themselves as a personality disorder, not so much as an idealology.

    Rove’s performances could be used in a psych class to illustrate the characteristic behaviors of narcissistic personality disorder.


  61. energylab says:

    You can’t defend anything. You call names and can’t look in the mirror. Wake up. Or just step up be patriotic and pay out the wazoo like Biden says. Joe Biden has given in charity an average of $369 a year for the past decade or about .02% of his income while he tells Americans they need to pay more taxes or they are not Patriots.
    Haven’t you noticed none of these idiots do anything with their own money until they have to. If they have such great ideas, why don’t they lead by example. no, they want pretend money to play with.


  62. kasinca says:

    energylab Says:

    Changing the subject to Chris Dodd or Joe Biden does not change the fact that KKKarl Rove is a lying piece of shite and should be in prison What is it with you mental midgets that makes you think that if you can point out some fault in a democrat it excuses the thugs which make up the majority of the crime family GOP? Take a hike. You are a troll and you are abusive and combative. Get a real life.


  63. energylab says:

    The only troll i know of lives on top of Joe Biden’s head. Someday, when you have built something, you will realize what a game this all is. Wasting all your energy on the rules instead of doing good. But go ahead. HATE. HATE. HATE. How about a solution instead of some mindless mantra of “How can anybody not want clean water?” “He’s a racist.” SO insightful!


  64. energylab says:

    I not excusing anyone. Where did i say that? It’s not there. You made it up. Give Rove whatever he deserves. But, thank you, you just proved my argument by accusing me of what you do! You just hiss at Reps “crime family” all day and point fingers w/out taking care of your own house.


  65. sscncturn64 says:

    I think about the video of Sadam being hung for his crimes.
    Bush,cheney,rumsfeld,rice. There should be a gallow built with four nooses for these for murderes.


  66. ranus69 says:

    KKKRove let’s see you dance your lying a$$ way to jail. And I take it that those soldiers who was against Bush got the fake turkey. I can’t even watch this hillbill-of-a-betch.


  67. RandomChaos says:

    Sooo… according to “energylab” The Repugs and it/he/she have thier house in order?

    *Yawn*
    Pathetic


  68. energylab says:

    Can you even read? THEY BOTH SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!high school is serving you well…YAWN!


  69. SKdeAnt says:

    Operation FnF on energylab…


  70. Ape-Man says:

    Everything Rove accuses others of he actually does.

    So Rove scripted everything Bush said huh?

    Is that why bush sounded so stupid?


  71. kasinca says:

    energylab Says:

    You never comment about the topic, wingnut. You always want to talk about something different to prove that they are all bad. Read the article. Comment on the article of the link. Is that hard to understand? You are a typical troll who cannot take instructions. Must suck to be a wingnut troll.


  72. flight says:

    energylab,
    You gotta understand, old Carl is a rattlesnake, and one thing I can’t stand is snakes. This snake has been sneaking around for a long time and I want him gone. Sent him back to his hole, shoot him but I don’t want to see him around here anymore.

    I just have a thing about rattlesnakes, especially “the Rove color”.


  73. christopher wiwi says:

    KKKarl Bush is gone,thank god and unfortunately your still on Faux spilling lies and forgetful(hypocritical) that Bush did solicit questionnaires before hand and Obama has done as usual with transparency and using the internet and youtube where it`s all out in the open.KKKarl you guys lost in November and are now marginalized now that we have a 60 vote majority for almost any legislation we need to get us out of the this economic meltdown we are in,unlike you and your ilk on the Reich we want this country to succeed and prosper.


  74. AndyShep says:

    99.9% of your responses presuppose that anyone who finds this practice loathsome is a Bush supporter, and that the standard for excellence Obama should strive for is to either be as bad as or, not too terribly much worse than Bush.

    Politics has become a team sport rather that a struggle for excellence in the nation, and you dim bulbs are precisely why the country is going down the tubes. Helen Thomas and Chip Reid understand what you don’t. The country will be made better not by how hard you fight those you oppose politically, but by how vigorous your expectations are towards those you have supported.

    Bush had an absolute complete lack of expectations from the right, and that is the standard you all support.


  75. katiebegood says:

    Yesterday I drove from Oregon to California to visit my daughter. Once I lost the progressive station out of Portland I was in a radio wasteland. There were 6-7 stations playing conservative talk but none progressive talk. So, out of boredom I listened to Sean Hannity or all of 5 minutes (that’s all I could take without putting my fist through my radio). His subject was how Obama “stages” his town halls and how all the people telling their tales of woe about health care were plants. He offered zero evidence of this, he just said it figuring his audience would believe him just because he said it (they probably do). It pissed me off that they are saying that Obama does what Bush did for 8 years. Even if that’s what Obama is doing (which I doubt), why do they think it’s bad for Obama to do it but it wasn’t bad for Bush to do it?

    BTW, my favorite staged picture of Bush was at Walter Reed when he had employees lined up behind him while he gave a talk. Every one of those employees was shooting daggers out of their eyes into Bush’s back. The picture was a classic.


  76. katiebegood says:

    Regarding my trip. I was really amazed that there were no radio stations from Southern Oregon until I hit the Bay Area that carried a progressive talk show. Most of the stations I got on AM were either religious stations preaching to their audience or conservative talk. Considering what people can get on their radio I find it amazing that President Obama has such high approval ratings and that the Republicans have such low approval ratings. I also wonder how well the conservative talk shows really are doing since their audience is shrinking daily.


  77. paganagnostic says:

    Most people believe that others think in the same way they do. Rove probably genuinely believes what he said. The far right and the media that projects their agenda are a spectacular new form of group autism. Rove is but one of the many clowns that keep this circus rolling along!


  78. Deuce Coupe says:

    It seems that everything Obama does is just total BS

    BOHICA


  79. Foxtrottango2 says:

    The thing I dislike about duly elected Democrats is they are too damn polite to individuals such as Karl Rove, GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rummy and the granddaddy of them all, Rush Limbaugh!

    But than again, Democrats don’t have to be nasty to win elections, do they? Still, we need Democrats to get something going and charge these international war criminals and hang them for betraying our democratic principles.

    Only than, can the nation clean it’s hands of the blood and the international crimes against humanity these evil evil creatures created on the world stage.

    Thank God the American people voted most of these demons out
    of power. Eight years of the GW Bush/Dick Cheney seem like demons had arisen from the ashes of the Dark Ages!


  80. rabbitcore says:

    Rove, why is it rich capitalistic pigs just seem to live on and plaque everyone around them. Bush’s brain, Rove could not add 2+2 without the help of Rupert and fox news.


  81. EdgeOnIt says:

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