Saddam Hussein Considered ‘Security Agreement’ With U.S. To Counter Threat From ‘Fanatics’ In Iran
Saddam Hussein Considered ‘Security Agreement’ With U.S. To Counter Threat From ‘Fanatics’ In Iran
Yesterday, the National Security Archive released declassified FBI reports detailing both the bureau’s interrogations and “casual conversations” with former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. According to the documents, Hussein told FBI agent George Piro (one of only a few agents who spoke Arabic) that he let the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction because he feared appearing weak to what he considered his country’s real threat, Iran:
Hussein’s fear of Iran, which he said he considered a greater threat than the United States, featured prominently in the discussion about weapons of mass destruction. … Hussein said he was convinced that Iran was trying to annex southern Iraq — which is largely Shiite. [...]
“The threat from Iran was the major factor as to why he did not allow the return of UN inspectors,” Piro wrote. “Hussein stated he was more concerned about Iran discovering Iraq’s weaknesses and vulnerabilities than the repercussions of the United States for his refusal to allow UN inspectors back into Iraq.”
Saddam “felt so vulnerable to the perceived threat from ‘fanatic’ leaders in Tehran that he would have been prepared to seek a ‘security agreement with the United States to protect [Iraq] from threats in the region.’” If that could not happen, only then, he said, would Iraq reconstitute its WMD programs.
Piro revealed to CBS’s 60 Minutes last year that Saddam “didn’t want to associate” with Osama bin Laden and viewed him “as a threat to him and his regime.” The new documents expound on Saddam’s distrust of Al Qaeda and bin Laden, whom he called “a zealot”:
Hussein replied that throughout history there had been conflicts between believers of Islam and political leaders. He said that “he was a believer in God but was not a zealot…that religion and government should not mix.” Hussein said that he had never met bin Laden and that the two of them “did not have the same belief or vision.”
When Piro noted that there were reasons why Hussein and al-Qaeda should have cooperated — they had the same enemies in the United States and Saudi Arabia — Hussein replied that the United States was not Iraq’s enemy, and that he simply opposed its policies.
President Bush, Vice President Cheney and numerous members of the Bush administration repeatedly cited the (now debunked) threat from Iraq’s supposed WMD program and Saddam Hussein’s alleged links to Al-Qaeda as the main justifications for launching the invasion of Iraq more than six years ago. The U.S. could end up spending trillions of dollars in Iraq and today, 130,000 U.S. troops remain there, 4,321 have died (4,639 total from coalition forces), and more than 30,000 have been wounded. Over 100,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the invasion while millions have been displaced.
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Didn’t Hussein also state that if he acutally did have WMD, “By God, I would have used them on the invading US forces!”?
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 amAnd to think if the Bush Crime Family had not of stepped in where Iraq and the U.S. would be at this time………….hang all the Bush crime family and hang them HIGH.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 amI would not attach a lot of significance to this story since it is all speculation. Saddam may have said those things to save himself.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 amWell as George said, My bad…not finding WOMD was disappointing.
4300 dead and counting Cheney!
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 amThe joke was on saddam hussein. SURPRISE! the fanatics you were worried about were occupying the white house
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amI expect the nationl response another confirmation of the lies and disastrous Bush administration will be a collective ho-hum. Shameful.
Families destroyed forever.
Prosecutions of Bush criminals still not begun.
But we must hear of Michale Jackson 24/7, and Palin’s latest riduculous taunt, and how Obama hasn’t fixed the economy yet.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amI thought the idea that Saddam blocked inspectors was a myth??!
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amAnd the plot thickens! Bush for whatever reasons wanted to attack Iraq from the first day he entered the White House. It’s been proven that plans were on the table within the first two weeks he was in office.
The neocons knew the American people would NEVER agree to just go and invade Iraq, as they stated on their PNAC site, they needed a new Pearl Harbor event to further their war mongering agenda.
The neocons believed with Russia down and the USA now the sole super power left in the world that the time was now to attack Iraq, Iran, Syria and North Korea to assist in a regime change in these countries that would be friendly with the West.
They believed with our 21st century technology and lighter, faster brigades we could just move quickly from one country to the next, like taking candy from a baby…they realized they were wrong.
9/11 WAS allowed to happen by our government and anyone thinks I am crazy for thinking this or that I’m wearing a tinfoil hat needs to look up Operation Northwoods. If those within our government were willing to murder it’s own citizens back in the early 60’s in an attempt to get the support of the America people for a with Cuba, why wouldn’t those within our government do the same thing in 2001 to get us all to back an unnecessary war in Iraq? Plus there was a lot more money and profits to be made with a war in Iraq.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amThat Saddam is such an ingrate.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 amI think Michael Scheuer has been on TV lately saying we need another attack in this country.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 amHe joins the neocons and Cheney who can’t get enough bloodshed and tragedy.
Waitaminnit — wasn’t Dubya wearing a flight suit on the deck of the “Mission Accomplished” aircraft carrier? Or did he strip down to suit and tie for this photograph?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 amHussein…said that “he was a believer in God but was not a zealot…that religion and government should not mix.”
– - Well no wonder the born-again Bush and GOP wanted to so badly rid the world of Saddam. Those kind of people are dangerous!
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 amAnother of the never ending string of tid-bits of information that confirm our collective idiocy of believing in Bush/Rove/Cheney/Rumsfeld and the hype that went into selling the war to the American public. We’re almost all to blame for believing that crap, or at least for following them down their rabbit hole.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 am[Hussein] said that “he was a believer in God but was not a zealot…that religion and government should not mix.”
Hmm. Yes, we’ve seen what having a religious zealot as a leader, and mixing religion and government, can do to a nation.
PEACE
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 amOperation Northwoods http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
As I said, if those within our government were willing to murder their own citizens in an attempt to gain support for a war with Cuba back in the early 60’s you can bet there are those within our government who would murder their own citizens in 2001 to gain support from American citizens for a coming war with Iraq.
After 9/11 with the help of the corporate/government controlled media we were brainwashed and the government preyed on all of our fears, shock and sorrow to push for their quest of war, blood and oil.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 amThis confirms what we (you know, the rational, thinking part of the American populace) have known since 2003.
Of course, we slapped Iran’s hand around the same time when they wanted to help in Afghanistan. Khatami was a reasoned, intelligent ruler…if not exactly a wielder of much power.
Lousy neo-cons.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 amNice post Divide We Fall. I’ve always felt that Bush’s interest in Iraq was obtaining oil and avenging his pappy. Dick Cheney brought the neocons into the White House long before Bush Jr was on the scene. Installing himself as VP was a move to guarantee that PNAC’s vision could become a reality. Bush was a willing patsy to the neocon’s desires as he saw it as a win/win/win/win. Be a big, blustering war President, avenge your pappy by completing his mission in Iraq, obtain a stranglehold on Iraqi oil deposits and spread democracy to the middle east whether they want it or not. Typically though, George W. Bush never considered the consequences of what might happen if their plan was flawed(and it was…severely), if Iraqis DIDN’T great us as liberators(we all know what happened there)…in other words Bush was a sucker for all the bullshit that was sold to him by Cheney and the neocons as they assured him of a cakewalk and cherrypicked the intel to fit their agenda.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 amyet again people seem to lose very important pieces of the article….”he let the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction”…..and by not letting the inspectors in he reinforce that belief.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 amBefore the first Gulf war, someone in Bush 41’s cabinet had assure Saddam that we would not get involved if Iraq invaded Kuwait. It was a lie of course. George HW. Bush got what he wanted.
Before the second Gulf war, it’s been documented that George W. Bush suggested that we paint one of our military aircraft to look like a United Nations aircraft and fly it over Iraq with the hope that Saddam would have it shot down, which Bush hoped would gain world support for a war with Iraq. If this had happened the 9/11 attack would not have been needed.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 amHe blocked them for a while, then he let them in. What the fu(k is so hard to understand about that? You never heard of Hans Blix? Good gawd you Republican slaves are stupid.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 amThis story also proves the effectiveness of advertising, PR, lobbyists, media manipulation and lying liars in selling the public on a storyline that is 180 degrees from reality.
Press freedom sunlight, an educated populace and eternal vigilance are the antidotes.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 amThis past weekend, some holy rollers knocked on my door, trying to talk to me about their church. I immediately asked them how many of them voted for
Bush/Cheney. All three of them did.
I told them that their church was a tool of Satan, and and I ordered them to never trespass again on my property.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 amA Patriotic Anopheles Acting, Thanks! Remember the look on Bush’s face when he was told about the first plane hitting the WTC? It wasn’t a look of disbelief or shock it was a “Wow, they actually went through with it” kind of look.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 amThe flight suit didn’t have a back to it. It was just held on by velcro straps. Bush had his suit and tie on underneath.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 ampags2, care to point out the speculation in this? Iraq and Iran had fought an 8 year war against each other. No massive stockpiles of WMD’s were found. No operational link between AQ and Saddam existed. OBL had called Saddam a bad muslim.
The speculation came from the Office of Special Plans that it would be a quick in and out.
You may want to turn your head to this but I don’t take lightly the death of a single soldier (or civilian) for lies.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 amThat evil Bush clan is attempting to install another of their demon spawn on our nation. The fat one Jeb is busy collecting money in Iowa.
Some repiggies are even mentioning the name of Liz Cheney for a possible run for office.
Do we really need any more of those nasty Bushes?
Liz Cheney’s husband is another one of that merry band of war criminals who have eluded criminal prosecution.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 amI’d love to play poker with you. I could show you my cards and still bluff you.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 amI’ve been saying that same thing for years. It was like he all of a sudden realized what kind of people he’d gotten into bed with.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 amDid he already spend all the money he stole from the Savings & Loan?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 amjrzguy Says:
yet again people seem to lose very important pieces of the article….”he let the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction”…..and by not letting the inspectors in he reinforce that belief.
That’s why we’re supposed to have an independent intelligence service, so that any claims made can be verified.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 amSo now we were supposed to believe what Saddam said?
Hey, a spokesman for Kim Jong Il said North Korea’s “armed forces will deal an annihilating blow that is unpredictable and unavoidable, to any ’sanctions’ or provocations by the US,”
I guess we’d better take him seriously and invade the fu(ker, huh?
Right-wingers are such easily-terrified pansies.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:35 amShoeless, don’t forget the other slimy Bush that has been hidden away for all these years, Neil Bush, who ruined Silverado Savings and Loan with his financial shenanigans. From what I have read, that Bush divorced his wife and has spent much of his recent life in Thailand with 12 year old girls.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 amSo has it really come to this? We are taking the word of Saddam Hussein over the U.S. Government? Truely a sorry day. If Saddam feared the Iranians he must have really feared the Jurds. You know those people he used WMD on. Luck for him this mother and baby never threatened him again. Or the other 182,00 Kurds who died by his hand.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 amDeserves a re-post.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 amjzzguy Says:
yet again people seem to lose very important pieces of the article….”he let the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction”…..and by not letting the inspectors in he reinforce that belief.
Well, there’s a great argument for acceptance of 4300 brave men and women dead, and 100,000 plus innocent Iraqis!
Besides, the whole parade of fallacy brought forth at the UN and Congress by Bush & Co. was because Saddam DID have WMD, not that he MAY have.
My, what a limited memory you have.
And no offense, but before I go to my neighbor and punch him in the face for hitting my children, I make sure I have, you know, actual proof.
Or better yet, if I do have proof, I go punch another neighbor who had nothing to do with the abuse.
Mucking forons!
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 amSaddam is dead and the pussys are still scared of him.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 amOh Saddam had WMD’s alright…the ones OUR government sold to him back in the 80’s. The ones Saddam used against his own people and the Iranian people.
Why do you think Saddam was executed so soon after his first trial? He had two more trials. The NEXT trial was about the crimes he committed against his own people using nerve gas, the same nerve gas he obtained from the USA back in the 80’s.
Now how would the U.S. looked if this had gotten out to the rest of the world? That Saddam indeed used WMD’s on his own people and on the people of Iran during the Iraq/Iran war, WMD’s purchased from the USA. And now the USA has invaded Iraq for alleged WMD’s.
This I believe is why Saddam was hanged before his next trial, the trial that would have made the USA look hypocritical to the rest of the world.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 ammisscoleopteramolly Says:
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
Missmolly, when he got off the plane, he wore the flight suit with crotch strap firmly in place for the swagger. Later, for the formal address to the crew assembled on the deck, he wore the presidential suit.
That will live forever in his history – and I hope it is mocked in perpetuity.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 amWell, Neil should have neough money to pay for his adolescent hookers. He even though he was found guilty of stealing $100 million, the judge let him keep it.
Jeb on the other hand never even got busted for all the money he stole. I was in Florida during his first campaign. Then Gov. Chiles was telling everyone, “Why would you consider voting for a guy who stole $250 million from a S & L?”
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 amWhether the reports of Saddam having or not having WMD’s at the time is a mute subject. Why? Because Senator Dick Durbin admitted back in 2005 that he and the other Senators on the intelligence committee who were briefed by the Bush administration and shown the intelligence reports regarding WMD’s and the threat posed by Saddam WERE all manipulated and cherry picked.
Senator Durbin said he should have spoken up but that these documents and what was discussed in these meetings were classified and protected for National Security reasons, so if any Senator at these briefings had spoken up, they would have been thrown in prison.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 amFox News is as guilty as Bush and Cheney for spewing the lies and propaganda that created this mess.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 amIsn’t Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 amFor that matter, so is the NY Times.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 amIf Jeb runs for national office it shows how dangerous it is to not investigate crimes. He was the Governor of Florida in 2000. When is anybody going to pay for the election crimes committed?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 amThe rest of the MSM is guilty of gross negligence. But Fox worked as a propaganda arm of the White House knowingly spewing lies. GHW Bush referring to “our man Ailes” should hold up in court it anybody every did anything.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 amDubya is an amateur thief compared to Jeb and Neil. He only stole $14 million from the taxpayers of Arlington, TX.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 amThat was yet ANOTHER Bush, Marvin Bush. He was a principle of the company that provided security at WTC, Dulles Airport, and for United Airlines (at Logan-Boston).
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amshoeless @ 41, Jeb Bush also stole money from Florida HMO’s with a shady South American business partner.
The Bush family is as evil and corrupt as you can get. What I fear is that with all of these possible 2012 republican presidential candidates going down like flies, it just may pave the way for Jeb Bush to run for president in 2012.
Four years is a long time, people will have forgotten about the failures of George W. Bush by then. Most Americans will be focused on our failing economy, unemployment, health care, the bailouts and blame it all on President Obama and the democrats.
Keep an eye on Jeb Bush in the future, if he starts to become more vocal and starts appearing on the political media circuit
you know he is going to run. The Bush family want to continue their legacy and will do it at any cost.
I suspect if the economy starts doing better and Obama looks like he is doing all the right things, we will see another “terrorist” attack within our country, which of course will help the republican party.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amToo bad the war criminals thought that hanging Saddam would protect them, he would have made an interesting witness in the trials in the Hague.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amBut his words live on.
And they can’t get him to change them since he’s dead!
Ah, but you forget. Fox already went to court and won the right to lie.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 amWhy? He knew Bush was going to hang him no matter what he said.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 amI told them that their church was a tool of Satan, and and I ordered them to never trespass again on my property.
Did you tell them your TP handle??
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 amjrzguy – Yes, the invasion – WHOOP, I meant WAR – was necessary, justified, and even fun to watch on Fox News. The checks to Halliburton were worth it, and intelligence was very intelligent.
Anything else you’d like to hear before you go your merry way?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Isn’t Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?
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No that would be the other brother Marvin who I believed was linked and worked for the security firm at the WTC. I believe after 9/11 he conveniently resigned his post and took a job with Houston LLC insurance company (I believe that was the name) which dealt with some of the claims from the WTC.
Lets not forget that it was that security company Marvin Bush worked for that hired retired FBI agent John O’Neil two weeks before 9/11, O’Neil died in the attack.
John O’Neil while an FBI agent was investigating the movements of Atta and other alleged terrorists, but was stonewalled at every turn by those higher up in the FBI….I wonder why?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 amThanks for this. I’ve read about this before. I find it especially striking that they wanted another “Remember the Maine” event. Hews closely to PNAC’s ‘we need another Pearl Harbor’. Both events to galvanize the public against ‘enemies’. How many times have we heard ‘Remember 9/11′?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 amAnd, of course, there was the Tonkin Gulf non-incident.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 amLets face reality. 9/11 was a Coup d’etat by the Neocons within the Bush administration and the government.
Look what has happened since 9/11. Two costly and failed wars. The creation of the department of Homeland Security. Laws like the Patriot Acts I&II. The John Warner Defense Act Of 2007. The Military Commissions Act. The new FISA bill and there are other bills or treaties all passed or signed in the guise of security.
These laws are all still on the books so I shudder to think what may happen if we ever get another republican president (Jeb Bush) and a republican majority in control of our government again.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 amCP Says:
So has it really come to this? We are taking the word of Saddam Hussein over the U.S. Government? Truely a sorry day.
Goes to show you how little credibility the US Government has, after all the lies and propaganda of these past 8 years. Truly sorry indeed.
If Saddam feared the Iranians he must have really feared the Jurds. You know those people he used (American-sold) WMD on.
Fixed that for you. And yes, everybody knew that Saddam wasn’t a nice guy. He was a dictator who killed a lot of people. And the USA still sold him WMDs. Way to go, moron neo-cons!
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 amThe Iraq catastrophe has been at the very heart of the economic disaster here at home. That goddamned useless war has bled out so much wealth from this economy.
Keep your anger near, and don’t ever vote for the repiggie trash.
They are all part of the enabling conspiracy to destroy this nation.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am9 A Patriotic Anopheles Acting said,
Thank you. I really needed to lol out loud.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 amshoeless Says:
And, of course, there was the Tonkin Gulf non-incident.
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We’ve had a history of false flag attacks. Attacks allowed to happen or attacks which were fabricated and pushed in the media.
The USS Maine – helped started the Spanish-American war.
The sinking of the Lusitania – Some suggest this event helped get us into WWI. Sunk by a German U-Boat,
which killed 1924 people, 114 were Americans. Germany warned it would sink any vessels in the North Atlantic. The luxury liners on it’s way to Great Britain from New York was loaded hidden with cargo containing munitions for the British war effort, a fact not known by the passengers but known by the Germans.
Pearl Harbor – Got us into WWII. Some suggest that FDR allowed it to happen after being pressured by European countries and international bankers.
The USS Liberty – Attacked and sunk by our ally Israel. Didn’t get us into a war but some of the survivors claimed this deadly attack by Israel aircraft was an attempt to get us to support their war with Egypt by claiming it was Egypt who attacked the vessel. There has been much debate about the attack of the USS Liberty and a coverup by our Navy and government.
The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident – We all now know that this incident never happened and is a text book case of the government/military/media reporting an event with the hopes of gaining the support of the American people for war.
9/11 – No explanation needed here…
What will be the next new 9/11 incident?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 amHey Luis, buddy stop being so naive and gullible. Many of the dictators if not all of them are useful little tools for our government until they decide to not be our puppets anymore.
I am tired of all of this false patriotic bullcrap I hear from the right. Our government is as evil as any other government in the world. We just treat our people a little better and give more freedom.
Look at our long history of sticking our noses into other countries affairs and usually at the behest of a corporation. Saddam was a bad man, but we helped get him into power.
I love my country, I just despise many of the actions my government has committed in the name of my country and people.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 amIt seems Saddam was the only sane person between he, Bush and Cheney.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 amToo much attention on Iran’s military? Where else do we see that?
Hmm… maybe the Saudis, most of the 9/11 terrorists… nah, they’re legit. Let’s hold hands, la la la…
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 amTaking pause, a deep breath and stepping back from this article. Is it possible that this article is getting mileage now to possibly help beat the drums of war against Iran?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 amKind of makes you wonder if they are threatening President Obama. I still say GHW Bush and his connections are behind what we’ve been going through starting with the assasination of JFK. Letting him get off on Iran Contra was probably one of the biggest mistakes this country made. And the Republican mantra is always that we need to look forward. NO, we need to look back and correct things or we are doomed to fail. If Obama is being intimidated to not act we need to FORCE him to act.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 amThe reality is that even though dots can fairly easily be connected, there have been no prosecutions. We can’t even get a dog and pony show of a ‘truthiness commission’. There is no significant difference in the parties or else complacency would have evaporated after ‘06 elections or surely after ‘08 elections.
You shouldn’t have to be a partisan conspiracy theorist to say that we had the worst attack in US history, therefore someone fcked up, big time and there are consequences.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:03 pmDo we? Well we used to anyway.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pmDivided We Fall Says:
Hey Luis, buddy stop being so naive and gullible.
Sorry, whut?
Many of the dictators if not all of them are useful little tools for our government until they decide to not be our puppets anymore.
Well, I’m sure there are a few dictators which aren’t (or weren’t) puppets for the Americans (Stalin comes to mind) but you make a very good point.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:18 pmSo as the real problem today seems to be Iran, if Mr. Peabody and I step into our wayback machine, the real solution 8 years ago would have been to work with Saddam to limit Iran.
Doing so would have the benefits of :
no 4300 dead servicemen (not to count the non-military support folks we privatized so their deaths wouldn’t count).
the crippling effects of the Enron-style off-the-books-accounting to pay for the war wouldn’t be there (read, my retirment funds wouldn’t have decreased by 1/2 over the Bush Admin. My children won’t have this huge expense to repay, ….)
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July 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pm.
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That is yet another lie. According to the US Army War College, Saddam didn’t kill the Kurds, the Iranians gassed them. At the time, Saddam was too busy fighting a couple of million Iranian soldiers to be gassing his own people.
Iran Gassed Kurds, Not Iraq,
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pmIsn’t Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?<em
How many of you know, the WTC was shut down two weeks before 9/11? Building black out. How many of you know that the bomb sniffing dogs that were part of the security at the WTC were released from duty two weeks before 9/11!!!
Is it just me or does this smell funny….building shut down and bomb sniffing dogs can’t return to work. And yes…Neil Bush was on the board of the security company that handled security for the WTC.
How nice that the MSM investigated…NOT!!!
The largest crimal act in American history has never been crimally investigated….priceless!!!
GOD DAMM AMERICA!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pmThe repiggie liars on this blog, all “experts” on the Bush invasion of Iraq, kept their own sorry asses out of the conflict.
The repiggie liars do not walk their own talk. They want the poor and the naive to fight these stupid wars, and the liars just want to sit here safely and lecture us on “morality.”
Why would any sane person ever consider voting for a repiggie these days?
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pmThis just exposes the need for back door channels where off the record messages can be exchanged. War with Iraq was very avoidable yet Bush plundered nearly a trillion dollars and nearly 4,500 American lives for no good purpose. And now people like Bolton want war with Iran. This is all so sick!
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pmJeffboste Says:
Does Jeffboste needs to be flagged and banned?
YES / Hell yes!
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pmThis confirms what many of us thought at the time; that Hussein had to bluster, after being weakened by sanctions and flyovers–in order to keep his old enemy Iran at bay. If lay people like me could see this, why couldn’t the ‘experts’?
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pmThe “experts” are all heavily invested in Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater and the rest of the defense contractor corporations.
They see what they want to see.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmLets also not forget that Saddam was hanged just days before the Democrats took majority control in Congress. I remember watching the fast tracked kangaroo court culminating in his hanging…you know the last thing the Bush administration wanted was Saddam being debriefed by a House-Senate foreign relations committee. Oh, the stories he could have told…
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmAs I said earlier, it was Marvin Bush, not Neil. The company was also responsible for airport security at Dulles Airport and for United Airlines at Logan. Convenient.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pmBush launched war on March 19th…
[C]hief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix’s March 7 presentation to the U.N. Security Council on the progress of the inspection effort in Iraq. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/sprj.irq.un.transcript.blix/index.html
Inspections in Iraq resumed on the 27th of November 2002. …
How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can — cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament, and at any rate verification of it, cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude induced by continued outside pressure, it will still take some time to verify sites and items, analyze documents, interview relevant persons and draw conclusions. It will not take years, nor weeks, but months.
Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programs.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm84. Buckaroo Bonzai,
I didn’t know that Georgie’s brother was connected to a private airport security firm.
Would I be stretching things to speculate that he may have made a fortune from the post-9/11 massive growth of airport security forces (TSA etc.) ?
Perhaps a no-bid contract ?
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmWhen you see this in print, you want to scream. I remember Clinton’s advisors making very similar arguments prior to the Iraq war; “the Iranian connection”. The other argument was the analysis of the Iraqi economy itself. Saddam was not spending or importing anything of any scale to support WMD.
Cheney/Bush must have been aware of these arguments and arrogantly and intentionally ignored these them. The aftermath of those decisions have been disastrous. The lives lost, the fortune spent and the deeds done in our name. I can’t understand how any of the Necons can show their faces’ in public.
I am really beginning to believe the Necons are sociopathic.
I would like to see the bunch of them committed for life. A danger to society!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:03 pmHow do you ask the last man or woman to be the last one to die for a mistake?
Somebody said that a long time ago.
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:12 pmwoulda been much less painful if we had taken the bastard up on his offer.
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmAlways remember that the war in Iraq was immoral, illegal, and totally unnecessary. Our poor military, which is the best in the world, was exploited for the greed and the dishonesty of the GOP and the Bush Crime Family. G*d d@mn Bush, Cheney and the entire gang of thugs.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 pmOsama bin Laden had called Hussein a “secular hedonist”. All intel about their association or links were known lies—such as the meeting in Prague or the “shack in the north”.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pmBush tried finish his father job.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm