Comments on: Saddam Hussein Considered ‘Security Agreement’ With U.S. To Counter Threat From ‘Fanatics’ In Iran http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: youtube http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5712317 youtube Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:35:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5712317 Bush tried finish his father job. Bush tried finish his father job.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710820 Keith Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:51:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710820 Osama bin Laden had called Hussein a "secular hedonist". All intel about their association or links were known lies---such as the meeting in Prague or the "shack in the north". Osama bin Laden had called Hussein a “secular hedonist”. All intel about their association or links were known lies—such as the meeting in Prague or the “shack in the north”.

]]> By: kasinca http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710727 kasinca Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:53:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710727 Always remember that the war in Iraq was immoral, illegal, and totally unnecessary. Our poor military, which is the best in the world, was exploited for the greed and the dishonesty of the GOP and the Bush Crime Family. G*d d@mn Bush, Cheney and the entire gang of thugs. Always remember that the war in Iraq was immoral, illegal, and totally unnecessary. Our poor military, which is the best in the world, was exploited for the greed and the dishonesty of the GOP and the Bush Crime Family. G*d d@mn Bush, Cheney and the entire gang of thugs.

]]> By: precaryus http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710690 precaryus Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:58:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710690 woulda been much less painful if we had taken the bastard up on his offer. woulda been much less painful if we had taken the bastard up on his offer.

]]> By: Daddy-O http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710638 Daddy-O Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:12:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710638 How do you ask the last man or woman to be the last one to die for a mistake? Somebody said that a long time ago. How do you ask the last man or woman to be the last one to die for a mistake?

Somebody said that a long time ago.

]]> By: flight http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710619 flight Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:03:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710619 When you see this in print, you want to scream. I remember Clinton's advisors making very similar arguments prior to the Iraq war; "the Iranian connection". The other argument was the analysis of the Iraqi economy itself. Saddam was not spending or importing anything of any scale to support WMD. Cheney/Bush must have been aware of these arguments and arrogantly and intentionally ignored these them. The aftermath of those decisions have been disastrous. The lives lost, the fortune spent and the deeds done in our name. I can’t understand how any of the Necons can show their faces’ in public. <strong>I am really beginning to believe the Necons are sociopathic.</strong> <strong>I would like to see the bunch of them committed for life. A danger to society!! </strong> When you see this in print, you want to scream. I remember Clinton’s advisors making very similar arguments prior to the Iraq war; “the Iranian connection”. The other argument was the analysis of the Iraqi economy itself. Saddam was not spending or importing anything of any scale to support WMD.
Cheney/Bush must have been aware of these arguments and arrogantly and intentionally ignored these them. The aftermath of those decisions have been disastrous. The lives lost, the fortune spent and the deeds done in our name. I can’t understand how any of the Necons can show their faces’ in public.

I am really beginning to believe the Necons are sociopathic.

I would like to see the bunch of them committed for life. A danger to society!!

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710416 MapleStreet Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:29:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710416 84. Buckaroo Bonzai, I didn't know that Georgie's brother was connected to a private airport security firm. Would I be stretching things to speculate that he may have made a fortune from the post-9/11 massive growth of airport security forces (TSA etc.) ? Perhaps a no-bid contract ? 84. Buckaroo Bonzai,

I didn’t know that Georgie’s brother was connected to a private airport security firm.

Would I be stretching things to speculate that he may have made a fortune from the post-9/11 massive growth of airport security forces (TSA etc.) ?

Perhaps a no-bid contract ?

]]> By: cornhusker http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710312 cornhusker Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:29:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710312 Bush launched war on March 19th... <strong>[C]hief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix's March 7 presentation to the U.N. Security Council on the progress of the inspection effort in Iraq.</strong> http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/sprj.irq.un.transcript.blix/index.html Inspections in Iraq resumed on the 27th of November 2002. ... How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can -- cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament, and at any rate verification of it, cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude induced by continued outside pressure, it will still take some time to verify sites and items, analyze documents, interview relevant persons and draw conclusions. It will not take years, nor weeks, but months. Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programs. Bush launched war on March 19th…
[C]hief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix’s March 7 presentation to the U.N. Security Council on the progress of the inspection effort in Iraq. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/sprj.irq.un.transcript.blix/index.html

Inspections in Iraq resumed on the 27th of November 2002. …

How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can — cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament, and at any rate verification of it, cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude induced by continued outside pressure, it will still take some time to verify sites and items, analyze documents, interview relevant persons and draw conclusions. It will not take years, nor weeks, but months.

Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programs.

]]> By: BuckarooBanzai http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710308 BuckarooBanzai Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:25:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710308 <blockquote>NOLIESPLEASE Says: Isn't Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?<em And yes...Neil Bush was on the board of the security company that handled security for the WTC. </blockquote> As I said earlier, it was Marvin Bush, not Neil. The company was also responsible for airport security at Dulles Airport and for United Airlines at Logan. Convenient.

NOLIESPLEASE Says:

Isn’t Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?<em

And yes…Neil Bush was on the board of the security company that handled security for the WTC.

As I said earlier, it was Marvin Bush, not Neil. The company was also responsible for airport security at Dulles Airport and for United Airlines at Logan. Convenient.

]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710290 Innocent Bystander Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:13:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710290 Lets also not forget that Saddam was hanged just days before the Democrats took majority control in Congress. I remember watching the fast tracked kangaroo court culminating in his hanging...you know the last thing the Bush administration wanted was Saddam being debriefed by a House-Senate foreign relations committee. Oh, the stories he could have told... Lets also not forget that Saddam was hanged just days before the Democrats took majority control in Congress. I remember watching the fast tracked kangaroo court culminating in his hanging…you know the last thing the Bush administration wanted was Saddam being debriefed by a House-Senate foreign relations committee. Oh, the stories he could have told…

]]> By: evangenital http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710231 evangenital Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:44:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710231 The "experts" are all heavily invested in Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater and the rest of the defense contractor corporations. They see what they want to see. The “experts” are all heavily invested in Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater and the rest of the defense contractor corporations.

They see what they want to see.

]]> By: jjm http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710155 jjm Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:23:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710155 This confirms what many of us thought at the time; that Hussein had to bluster, after being weakened by sanctions and flyovers--in order to keep his old enemy Iran at bay. If lay people like me could see this, why couldn't the 'experts'? This confirms what many of us thought at the time; that Hussein had to bluster, after being weakened by sanctions and flyovers–in order to keep his old enemy Iran at bay. If lay people like me could see this, why couldn’t the ‘experts’?

]]> By: Luis Chapulin M http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710153 Luis Chapulin M Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:22:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710153 <em>Jeffboste Says:</em> Does Jeffboste needs to be flagged and banned? YES / Hell yes! Jeffboste Says:

Does Jeffboste needs to be flagged and banned?

YES / Hell yes!

]]> By: DallasNE http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710117 DallasNE Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:05:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710117 This just exposes the need for back door channels where off the record messages can be exchanged. War with Iraq was very avoidable yet Bush plundered nearly a trillion dollars and nearly 4,500 American lives for no good purpose. And now people like Bolton want war with Iran. This is all so sick! This just exposes the need for back door channels where off the record messages can be exchanged. War with Iraq was very avoidable yet Bush plundered nearly a trillion dollars and nearly 4,500 American lives for no good purpose. And now people like Bolton want war with Iran. This is all so sick!

]]> By: evangenital http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710101 evangenital Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:55:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710101 The repiggie liars on this blog, all "experts" on the Bush invasion of Iraq, kept their own sorry asses out of the conflict. The repiggie liars do not walk their own talk. They want the poor and the naive to fight these stupid wars, and the liars just want to sit here safely and lecture us on "morality." Why would any sane person ever consider voting for a repiggie these days? The repiggie liars on this blog, all “experts” on the Bush invasion of Iraq, kept their own sorry asses out of the conflict.

The repiggie liars do not walk their own talk. They want the poor and the naive to fight these stupid wars, and the liars just want to sit here safely and lecture us on “morality.”

Why would any sane person ever consider voting for a repiggie these days?

]]> By: NOLIESPLEASE http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710087 NOLIESPLEASE Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:45:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710087 <em>Isn't Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?</em><em How many of you know, the WTC was shut down two weeks before 9/11? Building black out. How many of you know that the bomb sniffing dogs that were part of the security at the WTC were released from duty two weeks before 9/11!!! Is it just me or does this smell funny....building shut down and bomb sniffing dogs can't return to work. And yes...Neil Bush was on the board of the security company that handled security for the WTC. How nice that the MSM investigated...NOT!!! The largest crimal act in American history has never been crimally investigated....priceless!!! GOD DAMM AMERICA!!! Isn’t Neil Bush the brother who was in charge of security for the World Trade Center?<em

How many of you know, the WTC was shut down two weeks before 9/11? Building black out. How many of you know that the bomb sniffing dogs that were part of the security at the WTC were released from duty two weeks before 9/11!!!

Is it just me or does this smell funny….building shut down and bomb sniffing dogs can’t return to work. And yes…Neil Bush was on the board of the security company that handled security for the WTC.

How nice that the MSM investigated…NOT!!!

The largest crimal act in American history has never been crimally investigated….priceless!!!

GOD DAMM AMERICA!!!

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710048 shoeless Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:25:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710048 <blockquote>CP Says: Luck for him this mother and baby never threatened him again. Or the other 182,000 Kurds who died by his hand.</blockquote> That is yet another lie. According to the US Army War College, Saddam didn't kill the Kurds, the Iranians gassed them. At the time, Saddam was too busy fighting a couple of million Iranian soldiers to be gassing his own people. <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5257.htm" rel="nofollow"><strong>Iran Gassed Kurds, Not Iraq</strong>,</a><a></a>

CP Says:
Luck for him this mother and baby never threatened him again. Or the other 182,000 Kurds who died by his hand.

That is yet another lie. According to the US Army War College, Saddam didn’t kill the Kurds, the Iranians gassed them. At the time, Saddam was too busy fighting a couple of million Iranian soldiers to be gassing his own people.

Iran Gassed Kurds, Not Iraq,

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710038 MapleStreet Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:20:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710038 So as the real problem today seems to be Iran, if Mr. Peabody and I step into our wayback machine, the real solution 8 years ago would have been to work with Saddam to limit Iran. Doing so would have the benefits of : no 4300 dead servicemen (not to count the non-military support folks we privatized so their deaths wouldn't count). the crippling effects of the Enron-style off-the-books-accounting to pay for the war wouldn't be there (read, my retirment funds wouldn't have decreased by 1/2 over the Bush Admin. My children won't have this huge expense to repay, ....) . . . So as the real problem today seems to be Iran, if Mr. Peabody and I step into our wayback machine, the real solution 8 years ago would have been to work with Saddam to limit Iran.

Doing so would have the benefits of :

no 4300 dead servicemen (not to count the non-military support folks we privatized so their deaths wouldn’t count).

the crippling effects of the Enron-style off-the-books-accounting to pay for the war wouldn’t be there (read, my retirment funds wouldn’t have decreased by 1/2 over the Bush Admin. My children won’t have this huge expense to repay, ….)

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]]> By: Luis Chapulin M http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710033 Luis Chapulin M Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:18:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710033 <em>Divided We Fall Says: Hey Luis, buddy stop being so <strong>naive and gullible</strong>. </em> Sorry, whut? <em>Many of the dictators if not all of them are useful little tools for our government until they decide to not be our puppets anymore.</em> Well, I'm sure there are a few dictators which aren't (or weren't) puppets for the Americans (Stalin comes to mind) but you make a very good point. Divided We Fall Says:
Hey Luis, buddy stop being so naive and gullible.
Sorry, whut?

Many of the dictators if not all of them are useful little tools for our government until they decide to not be our puppets anymore.

Well, I’m sure there are a few dictators which aren’t (or weren’t) puppets for the Americans (Stalin comes to mind) but you make a very good point.

]]> By: Doodlebug Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/02/saddam-iran-threat/comment-page-2/#comment-5710023 Doodlebug Shayne Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:13:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=48948#comment-5710023 <blockquote>Divided We Fall Says: We just treat our people a little better and give more freedom.</blockquote> Do we? Well we used to anyway.

Divided We Fall Says:
We just treat our people a little better and give more freedom.

Do we? Well we used to anyway.

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