Cincinnati Enquirer Columnist Issues A Non-Apology For Using Doctored Franken Photo, Deletes Original Post
Cincinnati Enquirer Columnist Issues A Non-Apology For Using Doctored Franken Photo, Deletes Original Post
On July 1, Cincinnati Enquirer columnist Peter Bronson wrote a column titled, “Minnesota — the joke is on you,” in which he wondered whether Al Franken will “embarrass his party and become a kick-me sign on the back of Democrats at election time.” To make his point, he posted this image:
A little googling would have shown Bronson that the image is fake. As ThinkProgress first reported in 2006, the Ohio Republican Party photoshopped an AP image:
Bronson’s original post has since disappeared. Although the Cincinnati Beacon — and then some of Bronson’s own commenters — pointed out that the image wasn’t real, Bronson didn’t seem to care. Yesterday, Bronson went into his comments section and was unapologetic in using the fake image:
Yes, the photo of Franken in a diaper was apparently altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of his SNL skits. It resonates because people find it easy to see Franken that way.
Bronson finally posted a “non-apology” yesterday afternoon, writing, “Franken did many things on Saturday Night Live that could be embarrassing to a Senator. But apparently, that was not one of them. It turns out the picture was photoshopped.” He also claimed that he doesn’t “knowingly run false pictures,” and instead posted a different “goofy” picture of Franken.
No word yet on why Bronson’s original post was deleted. (His post from yesterday notes that the link no longer works but he’s “not sure why.”) Ironically, as the MinnPost points out, Bronson’s column is called, “Bronson is Always Right.”
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious picture.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 am“Is this who you want making decisions about your health care?”
– - Yes, because he’s smart enough, good enough and doggone it, I like him.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amJust wait – once franken gets his bearing, he is going to make these and the rest of the lying liars look ridiculous.
That is why the unprecidented attacks on him and the extended effort to prevent him from being seated.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amSenator Franken has a history of calling these liars out.
Senator Franken doesn’t want to hear about being ‘# 60′.
He’s already stated his job is to be #2, the second MN Senator.
Senator Franken is deeply honored to be taking Paul Wellstone’s seat.
Senator Franken will prove to be skilled, honest & fair.
Senator Franken is already driving wingnuts even crazier!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 amMeanwhile:
Do Baucus’ Ties To Health Care Industry Compromise His Reform Efforts?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Where did the Cincinnati GOP dig up that picture of Senator Vitter that they slapped Franken’s face on?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:55 amThe Young Racist is still allowed to post here? WTF?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:56 amHi The Young Republican:
July 7th, 2009 at 11:58 amAny chance you can stick around and chat today or do you have to run as always?
Yes, the photo of Franken in a diaper was apparently altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of his SNL skits. It resonates because people find it easy to see Franken that way.
Oh, that is AWESOME!
Just picture how useful this excuse is going to be in the years ahead:
“Yes, the photo of Bill O’Reilly with a fake journalism prize was apparently altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of his books. It resonates because people find it easy to see O’Reilly that way.”
or
“Yes, the photo of Limbaugh wth a small Dominican boy sex-worker was apparently altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of his rips to the Caribbean. It resonates because people find it easy to see Limbaugh that way.”
or even
“Yes, the photo of Mitt Romney in a Nazi uniform was apparently altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of his rallies. It resonates because people find it easy to see Romney that way.”
This could be FUN!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:59 amdemocraps lol what a joke.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pmNow I get it.
The Young Republic is only 5.
He gets to use the PC whenever Mom gets out the crack pipe.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pmThe poor Hitler youth can’t comprehend that the photo is a fake. Upon seeing it, the fake picture instantly became part of his alternate reality.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pmDouble standards much?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pmIn 10 minutes or so, Al will be the newest United States Senator.
Sweet.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pmsesli sohbet sesli chat seslichat seslisohbet
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pmFor real The Young Republican are you all grown up enough to have an actual conversation or not?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pmThe picture should read ” A democrat in his natural habitat “
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pmBronson finally posted a “non-apology” yesterday afternoon, writing, “Franken did many things on Saturday Night Live that could be embarrassing to a Senator. But apparently, that was not one of them. It turns out the picture was photoshopped.”
You see, Mr. Bronson… the thing is this: Al Franken was not a Senator when he performed on SNL and did those “many things… that could be embarrassing to a Senator”. He was a professional comedian.
He ran for the Senate with that experience on his résumé, with the voters of Minnesota fully informed of his past careers.
He won that Senate seat. There is no joke on the voters of Minnesota. They knew exactly who they were electing.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pmWe Are Only a Few Senators Away from Having Much Better Health Care
By Paul Krugman
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
As a Cincinnatian, all I can tell you is that Peter Bronson is stupid even by Ohio Republican standards. Considering this state produced John Boehner, Joe the Plumber and Ken Blackwell, that tells you something.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pmWhy are they going to such lengths to discredit Senator Franken before he’s even begun? Because they are scared of him, his intellect, his deep knowledge of the issues, and his ability to call a jackass a jackass without appearing to do so.
Fear – it’s not just for breakfast anymore.
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pmIs krugman under the bus or in the bus, today?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pmKey Senator: With Franken Seated No Need for Compromise on Public Option
Senator Schumer criticizes Senators wanting to compromise on health care and draws a line in the sand.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
The Young Republican Says:
The picture should read ” A democrat in his natural habitat ”
July 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
It makes you all tingly, doesn’t it?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pmSenator Al sure does have the Republicans scared.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pmI think our Young Racist still hasn’t gotten the message that the photo is fake.
Either that, or he’s proven once again that Republicans have to pretend that their fantasy worlds are real in order to smear Democrats.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pmSo why the hell is White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel selling us out?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pmExplain please?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pmSen. Franken was a cutting edge writer and actor during that time. Now he has moved directly into acting on his concerns for other people . Sen. Franken is a genius in disguise. This has been proven.
Can repugs suck on dried up used teabag forever?
Sen. Franken is growing and progressing, like normal people do, repugs.
HAHAHAHA
repugs be more stupid.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pmPalin is photoshopped holdinig her child but the child’s face is replaced with a repub that she is said to be politically connected with. That is libel. We’re gonna sue. How unseemly. etc.
Letterman makes a joke about Palin that could be seen as distasteful and going to far (so Letterman said something that was unseemly. What is the surprise.) Letterman apologized. We’re still gonna run Letterman out of town on a rail.
A picture of Franken in a diaper holding a stuffed rabbit. Clear implication of kinky sex (let’s forget that it was a repub who dressed 14 year olds in rabbit costumes). If anyone was offended, I apologize.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pmHas Fox News been putting a (D) next to David Vitter’s name again?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pmWas Franken’s head photoshopped onto the body of David Vitter? I thought Vitter was a Pampers man, but I doubt he’d have any brand loyalty when it came to making some money.
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmSee the thing is the habitat looks like a normal room in a norml house to me. Where exactly do normal republicans reside or are we using an alternative definition for habitat. Did the little one mean niche instead?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmEmanuel forced Obama to interrupt his diplomacy in Russia to release this statement:
Big KUDOS to Obama – and it does go to show that he needs progressives and liberals to hold people’s feet to the fire and hold BOTH SIDES accountable for meaningful healthcare reform!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmThe Young Republican Says:
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democraps lol what a joke.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Claims someone who reveres Ronald Reagan and George W Bush ; a pair of clowns who provided a never-ending source of material for comedians………….
July 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmspencers mom, that was hilarious. Nice work.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pmRepublicans don’t like Al Franken because they were always too stupid to get his jokes.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pmBeing a photoshop expert I certainly can do a great job of compositing Bronson & The Young Republican blowing a goat and you know, people will believe it because that is the way they see them.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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Is krugman under the bus or in the bus, today?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
He’s taking his turn at driving it ; here’s hoping he runs your stupid ass over………….
July 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pmhttp://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/03/14/franken-asian-stereotype-shock-video/
July 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pmThanks Ralph. I was surprised I was the first to make the Vitter/diapers connection.
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pmRepublicans Love Facts like they love unicorns. They love them, but don’t believe in them.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pmThere is nothing to explain. He just types random words.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pmactually, spencers mom, my favorite part was the snark about brand loyalty.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pmThe repugs and their wingnut followers lie and make things up constantly. It doesnt surprise me that some wingnut would doctor a photo. All it does is show how ridiculous they really are. And they wonder why they keep losing elections, and are losing people that support them.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/03/14/franken-asian-stereotype-shock-video/
July 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
With David Pampers Vitter in your clown corner , do you really want to go there , republicans love farts ?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pmIt’s just the latest manifestation of their esteem for appearance over reality.
http://blahgblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/gop-officially-repudiates-reality/
July 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmRepublicans…THE JOKE’S ON YOU!!
-Minnesota
July 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmspencers mom Says:
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Thanks Ralph. I was surprised I was the first to make the Vitter/diapers connection.
Double standards? Indeed!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmYou weren’t. I beat you by one minute. See #31.
:-)
July 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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spencers mom Says:
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Thanks Ralph. I was surprised I was the first to make the Vitter/diapers connection.
Double standards? Indeed!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
What in the hell are you talking about ?
Do you even know ?
Apparently not………..
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pmdbadass Says:
Hi The Young Republican:
Any chance you can stick around and chat today or do you have to run as always?
No, he won’t engage, he’s a republican, which means he’s quitter and a coward. like the painted whore of Wasilla.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pmAnother Joe Says:
So why the hell is White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel selling us out?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
There’s a thread for that below. Please take it there.
Write and call your congress people and the White House. Set up a demonstration. Set up your own blog.
Just DO something other than spamming every single thread on this blog.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pmPeter Bronson is one of those former 60s poser hippies who realized he could never make it by living up to his beliefs. He sold out and became a well paid, ideological lap dog of the right wingnuts owning and editing the Cincinnati Enquirer. He is not to be taken seriously by anyone.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pmApparently rlf is having problems stringing together more than three words today… got stupid much?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pmNo, Republicans loath facts, had a Democratic senator been frequenting prostitutes and needing to be diapered as a part of sex play, I’d be making the same connection.
Defensive much? Or are you a diaper man, too?
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pmSorry, shoeless! I looked first, but I guess I was typing as you were posting! Great minds…
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pmMc Metal, I think rlf’s point is that liberals can’t make fun of republicans because they’re liberals and liberals are supposed to be sensitive and caring and have no sense of humor. Kind of like republicans are supposed to be adult and serious and fiscally responsible and moral…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pmhaven’t read the copy here, but that picture looks fairly mile compared to the crazy LIES that oLIElly told his viewers last night…
they are sooo scared of this guy…
GO AL!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pmspencers mom Says:
Believe everything you read on far left blogs much? Rhetorical question of course!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pmspencers mom Says:
No, Republicans loath facts, had a Democratic senator been frequenting prostitutes and needing to be diapered as a part of sex play, I’d be making the same connection.
Defensive much? Or are you a diaper man, too?
PEACE
Well, he’s too shy to approach a prostitute, so he just poops his pants and has mommy change him…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pmSenator Al Franken now, it is official. Let the republiscum weeping chorus begin.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pmrlf,
July 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pmmuch much?
I’ll bet al freakshow really appreciates you loons posting that hilarious picture, again!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pmIt’s not a double standard simply because of the fact that Mr Vitter’s has a known fetish for wearing diapers while using the services of prostitutes.
RLF:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pmI highlighted key words because I understand that you have difficulty with reading comprehension.
Reggie/sock Says:
No proof? Shocker!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pmWow, rlf actually posted a complete sentence that doesn’t end with “much?”…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pmspencers mom, in the alternate reality of Republican insurgents, the David Vitter scandal never occurred. All they know is, Republicans gave him a standing ovation on the floor of the Senate for some unknown reason.
And now they know for a fact that Al Frankin wears diapers.
You cannot change alternate reality. Once created, it is set in stone.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Reggie/sock Says:
No proof? Shocker!
No, dummy, a shocker is when you bend your ring finger at the knuckle and use the first two fingers to massage your lover’s g spot while the pinkie is inserted in her anus. Ask your mom.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:33 pmWith the recent announcement for Sarah Palin’s resignation coinciding in proximity to the announcement of Al Franken’s acceptance into the U.S. Senate, the one thing that stands at its intersection is…Saturday Night Live.
While SNL does satire a lot of politics, the satire of Palin was not only hilarious but on the mark. The unintentional effect, albeit minor and possibly indirect, was the defeat of the Republican Party in November.
Now the GOP and its supporters, with Palin’s withdrawal, see red meat with Franken’s election. No doubt about it–this is just the start of the GOP’s attack on the closest connection to “liberal celebrity” and SNL itself. Fox News and all of the conservative blogs are going to be ruthless in their smearing of Franken’s career and his inexperience in Congress.
And yet no one complained when Sonny Bono (God rest his soul) became a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:33 pmrlf,
much much?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pmWell, I asked RLG to explain the first time he made this non sequitir claim, and he declined so… I guess you’re right. Republicans Love Goats has no idea what he’s talking about.
“Double standards” seems to just be the meaningless talking point of the day.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pmPurple State, right, the same with grampa fred, cooter from the dukes of hazard, and gofer from the love boat.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pmBobwurst Says:
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No, dummy, a shocker is when you bend your ring finger at the knuckle and use the first two fingers to massage your lover’s g spot while the pinkie is inserted in her anus. Ask your mom.
What a sick and disgusting person you are. No wonder you’re a leftist.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pmThere are a couple of facts that Republicans should know about the Minnesota Senate race. First Minnesota has election day registration. You can walk into a polling place on election day, register and then vote. I know this because I have done it. The Acorn stuff about it being involved in frauduant voter registration does not make any sense in Minnesota. Second during the Minnesota Supreme Court hearing on the Senate race, one of the Justices ask Coleman attorney if he was claiming fraud in the election, replied “absolutely not”.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pmWhat are the GOP complaining about? This is a picture of the one they chose as president. He also made a lot of people laugh, some time ago.
(I mean the one on the right)
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pmTracy_5, that’s just one of hundreds of examples of liberal hypocrisy/double standards.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Bobwurst Says:
Wow, rlf actually posted a complete sentence that doesn’t end with “much?”…
It’s hard for her to type with one hand when MUCH of her concentration is busy with the other one whilst staring at the diapers and moaning in ecstasy! ;)
rlf is a woman? no way! maybe she’s trying out the shocker on herself.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pmThe Young Republican Says:
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Bobwurst Says:
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No, dummy, a shocker is when you bend your ring finger at the knuckle and use the first two fingers to massage your lover’s g spot while the pinkie is inserted in her anus. Ask your mom.
What a sick and disgusting person you are. No wonder you’re a leftist.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Claims a backer of a toe-tapping cretin and diaper-donning pervert………….
Get a clue , stupid………
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pmI feel sorry for the wives and girlfriends of Republicans. It must be a bummer to go through life never having an orgasm.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pmrlf/patsy replies to his own posts under other names.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pmThe Young Republican Says:
Bobwurst Says:
No, dummy, a shocker is when you bend your ring finger at the knuckle and use the first two fingers to massage your lover’s g spot while the pinkie is inserted in her anus. Ask your mom.
What a sick and disgusting person you are. No wonder you’re a leftist.
Larry Craig said Clinton was a dirty dirty man
Vitter said Cinton was immoral and should resign
Sanford said Clinton couldn’t be trusted and should resign.
Do you see a pattern here with republicans questioning other peoples morals? Can you guess where I’m going next?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pmshoeless, orgasms have a well-known liberal bias.
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pmThe Young Republican
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm‘Are you afraid is that the problem? Come on little feller let’s talk…
Tracy__5 Says:
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Does anyone ever reply to RHF’s posts?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
What for ? Doesn’t the fact he generally has recommends for nearly every one of his posts indicate a reply in some manner , dipshit ?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Franken had no problem being a COMEDIAN ON PURPOSE, whilst VITTER and the WHOLE GOP is full of CLOWNS like YOU that just CAN’T HELP BEING ONE DESPITE YOURSELVES! ;)
Hi RHF. Great way to showcase the difference between Franken and the non-professional clowns :)
Tracy__5 Says:
Does anyone ever reply to RHF’s posts?
Thank you for your concern.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmYoung republican, what perversion are you overcompensating for? Shall we all guess?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmAnd let us not forget the greatest Republican comedian ever elected…Take a bow, Ronnie.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmthese bold, fresh Righties understand that juvenile smack-talk will get them everywhere.
keep at it, courageous and undaunted snots – your high-class example is an inspiration to 11 year old boys the world over!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmBobwurst, don’t forget Promise Keeper Ensign. He was piously calling for Clinton’s crucifixion, too.
PEACE
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmIt’s satisfying to see that the wingnuts are SO terrified of Senator Franken. :-D
July 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
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rlf/patsy replies to his own posts under other names.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Least he doesn’t turn tail and run away like you GOP backing pansies do when asked a question you cannot or refuse to answer , republicans love dogfarts……….
July 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pmI am baffled by The Young Republican’s age. Claims to be young but also claims to know events as they were fifty years ago but is also clueless about the shocker. What young person doesn’t know the shocker. I am starting to think that perhaps The Young Republican is just a pretend poser. I suppose The Young Republican might wanna refute that but I doubt it as they seem to frightened to talk…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pmwhile I thought the pic was funny in my own twisted sense of humor, can you imagine if it were the other way around? Had the left tried this on a right wing conservative? That would be one they would whine about for months, even years. Yet they can photoshop Franken and then their lemmings can get away with all those Obama/Hitler pictures and its no big deal. Only in America.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:44 pmReggie/sock Says:
No proof? Shocker!
Check out the urban dictionary’s definition VITTER.
vitter:
July 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
watchdog Says:
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republicans hate facts Says:
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watchdog Says:
Al Franken The Clown
Al Franken Pic # 2
Franken had no problem being a COMEDIAN ON PURPOSE, whilst VITTER and the WHOLE GOP is full of CLOWNS like YOU that just CAN’T HELP BEING ONE DESPITE YOURSELVES! ;)
You have a lot of room to talk. The fact that you can’t see past partisan politics demonstrates how truly ignorant and short sighted you are.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
As opposed to you GOP/Bush backing clods , who have repeatedly try to defend/apologize/excuse-make for the indefensible the previous 8 years ?
Are you friggin’ serious ?
Wow , you’re an imbecile…………
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pmClassy, really classy. Aren’t the Repugs always screaming how Palin has been unfairly smeared? Remember when after Hurricane Katrina hit they said the press was to unfair on Bush? Jeez.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm60
liable to become 68, if the R’s can’t find a different tune to hum.
thanks, righties, for securing Obama’s second term so far in advance.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pmHow so Proud.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:48 pmI see no fear. I see people just goofing on her. Is this another thing you made up like your assured knowledge of Trig’s iq?
Let’s see, he thinks it’s disgusting and perverted to tough a girl’s private parts. Imagine that.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:49 pmTracy__5 Says:
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“Doesn’t the fact he generally has recommends for nearly every one of his posts indicate a reply in some manner , dipshit ?”
Uh, no. He’s not worth the effort SFB. If you like to…oh well take another step down.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Outside of the GOP/Bush backing suckhole sycophants like yourself here , do you ever receive any type of positive response for the worthless twaddle that you post , tool ?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:49 pmSorry, I meant touch, of course.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pmProud Says:
It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
Sorta the same feeling I get when O’Reilly expressed his frustration over Franken’s election.
That’s a GREAT feeling. I totally get your point, dude.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pmProud Says:
Zooey Says:
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It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
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“quitters never win
and winners never quit.”
– vince lombardi.
’nuff said.
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July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pmTracy, how’s you invisible black friend doing? Do you ever see him these days?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pmYoung republican is strangely aroused by the picture because he has an un-natural urge to sodomize his teddy bear.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pmProud Says:It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
Totally terrified.
Please, whatever you Republicans do, do NOT run Sarah Palin in 2012… anything but THAT!!!
(This full body shaking that looks like the giggles is abject terror, I assure you)
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pm…
never.
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July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pmFreudian slip?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pmProud Says:
No,just pointing out the incredible hypocrisy of the left, if you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
So what doctored photo of Palin was passed off as real by a media outlet?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pmProud Says:
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Zooey Says:
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It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
The only thing “scary” about that brainless banshee is her IQ…….Or her complete lack thereof………
July 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pmhey proud,
wanna go a few rounds of “i know you are, but what am i?”
hey – give us some of that “i am rubber and you are glue…” shtick while you’re at it. i love those old pee wee herman bits….
July 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pmWe should be concerned. The Republicans already managed to get one total dumbass into the White House. You would have thought it was impossible, but it happened. We don’t need a repeat performance.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmProud there is nothing you can serve that I can’t take. Well other than that shitty Applebee’s low brow preportioned cryovaced crap…
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmWhy hasnt’ the Young Repiggie signed up for military service in Afghanistan?
He totally skipped out on Iraq, but it’s still not too late to serve in his generation’s “great conflict.”
Why is he absent from the military?
Is he so important to this blog?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmProud Says:
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dbadass Says:
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How so Proud.
I see no fear. I see people just goofing on her. Is this another thing you made up like your assured knowledge of Trig’s iq?
No,just pointing out the incredible hypocrisy of the left, if you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Get back to us when Bible Spice Palin graduates an Ivy League school , d-bag………
And , oh yeah ; when Franken QUITS his Senate seat , jackass………..
July 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmYoung republican, does your mom know you think about her when you masturbate?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pmProud Says:
dbadass Says:
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How so Proud.
I see no fear. I see people just goofing on her. Is this another thing you made up like your assured knowledge of Trig’s iq?
No,just pointing out the incredible hypocrisy of the left, if you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
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“i didn’t grow up in the ocean — as a matter of fact — near the ocean — i grew up in the desert. therefore, it was a pleasant contrast to see the ocean. and i particularly like it when I’m fishing.”
– george w. bush, washington, d.c., sept. 26, 2008
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and don’t you forget it.
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July 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pmshoeless Says:
We should be concerned. The Republicans already managed to get one total dumbass into the White House. You would have thought it was impossible, but it happened. We don’t need a repeat performance.
The fact they tried to push Sarah Palin on us was the warning sign we needed, and she never even got close to stepping into the Oval Office as veep.
I think people’s eyes have been opened to those eligible for the 2012 election and won’t be surprised if she throws her hat in the ring. I think we’ll be prepared to face whatever GOP candidates are ready to challenge the majority in 2010 and the President in 2012.
But I agree. No resting on the laurels.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pmIt’s just a photoshopped picture. Just like the Palin bikini gun pic. Franken will probably chuckle at this.
I don’t expect an apology from whomever posted/created/sent this.
I don’t expect a mea culpa from the republican party for the massive blunders Bush was allowed to create. But the GOP will remain a minority until they come to grips with what they allowed to happen.
The myopic desire to insult instead of owning up to the failures in the GOP has put them in a tailspin. Remember fiscal responsibility? Smaller government? Govt. out of people’s lives? All platforms of the GOP that were abandoned under Bush. Instead of owning up to that they want to point at pictures.
No WMD’s. No capture of OBL. No cohesive plan once we entered Iraq. Disclosing a Secret Agent’s identity. Missing emails. and the list goes on.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pmSays:
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As a Cincinnatian, all I can tell you is that Peter Bronson is stupid even by Ohio Republican standards. Considering this state produced John Boehner, Joe the Plumber and Ken Blackwell, that tells you something.
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——————————————————————————–Don’t forget the oldies, but goodies.
John Kasich, the Price women,Voinovich,Jim Rhodes, etc,
Of course, it’s going to take decades to recover from Tafts reign of destruction.
tony and lido
July 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
none of the WATBs matter any more…
it’s too late…
HE WON.
SENATOR AL FRANKEN.
say it.
deal with it.
GO AL!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:02 pmhellinabucket Says:
It’s just a photoshopped picture. Just like the Palin bikini gun pic. Franken will probably chuckle at this.
This is exactly what I think politicians need–a sense of humor.
Yes, they need to be proficient in current events, politically focussed, and able to look at issues in a positive way, but they also need to know when to LAUGH.
Clinton was able to do that. Bush was able to do that. Obama’s able to do that.
Sarah Palin can’t take it.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pmaaawwww……
now that’s cute…..
lil ol dogwash is tryin’ to come off sounding “academic”, like those legal beagles in the White House Department of Law.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pmwatchdog Says:
MCMetal Says:
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watchdog Says:
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watchdog Says:
Al Franken The Clown
Al Franken Pic # 2
Franken had no problem being a COMEDIAN ON PURPOSE, whilst VITTER and the WHOLE GOP is full of CLOWNS like YOU that just CAN’T HELP BEING ONE DESPITE YOURSELVES! ;)
You have a lot of room to talk. The fact that you can’t see past partisan politics demonstrates how truly ignorant and short sighted you are.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
As opposed to you GOP/Bush backing clods , who have repeatedly try to defend/apologize/excuse-make for the indefensible the previous 8 years ?
Are you friggin’ serious ?
Wow , you’re an imbecile…………
Progressivism is the epitome of apologetic and propagandizing politics.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
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another point of view:
“there’s an old saying in tennessee — I know it’s in texas, probably in tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
—president george w. bush, nashville, ienn., sept. 17, 2002
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think about it.
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July 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pmMCMetal Says:
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Proud Says:
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It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
The only thing “scary” about that brainless banshee is her IQ…….Or her complete lack thereof………
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July 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
“damn those progressives, and their “rights”, and their “weekends”….we should all be sweatshop workers and grateful for it”
- A. Selfhating Plebe
July 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pmwatchdog Says:
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MCMetal Says:
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watchdog Says:
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republicans hate facts Says:
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watchdog Says:
Al Franken The Clown
Al Franken Pic # 2
Franken had no problem being a COMEDIAN ON PURPOSE, whilst VITTER and the WHOLE GOP is full of CLOWNS like YOU that just CAN’T HELP BEING ONE DESPITE YOURSELVES! ;)
You have a lot of room to talk. The fact that you can’t see past partisan politics demonstrates how truly ignorant and short sighted you are.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
As opposed to you GOP/Bush backing clods , who have repeatedly try to defend/apologize/excuse-make for the indefensible the previous 8 years ?
Are you friggin’ serious ?
Wow , you’re an imbecile…………
Progressivism is the epitome of apologetic and propagandizing politics.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
As if cancervatism isn’t about meaningless bumper-sticker slogans that are about as useful as used toilet paper ?
That’s all cancervatism is ; uintelligent tools appealing to even more unintelligent tools……….
July 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pmWhat a perfect example of the moral bankruptcy of the GOoPers.When threatened, or beaten, they just make stuff up.
When I was young I was taught that, if I had to lie to make a point, the point isn’t worth making.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pmwatchdog Says
:Progressivism is the epitome of apologetic and propagandizing politics.
The bush Aminstration spends 1.6 billion dollars on domestic propaganda between 2003 and 2005
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/13/AR2006021301897.html
July 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pmRethugs gonna whack this guy like they did Wellstone?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pmProgressivism is the epitome of apologetic and propagandizing politics.
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July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Rethugs gonna whack this guy like they whacked JFK Junior.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pmRethugs gonna whack him like they whacked Mel Carnahan?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pmYou know why watchdogs lick their balls?
Because they can…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pmTracy__5 Says:
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#125
“do you ever receive any type of positive response for the worthless twaddle that you post , tool ?”
The responses can be positive comming from negative angry people.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
It’s funny how people get upset when they’re constantly lied to , isn’t it , jackass ?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pmFranken better not fly in a small plane like Liberal leaders Wellstone, Carnahan and JFK Jr, did.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they were all whacked by the Bush CIA creeps.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pmProud Says:
It’s satisfying to see that the libtards are SO terrified of Sarah Palin. :-D
July 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Quitters who ridicule quitters because they can’t get their minds around the fact that they are quitters aren’t terrifying — they’re HILARIOUS!!
Palin/Bachmann 2012!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pmTracy__5 Says:
#129
Just can’t accept it…can you.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
***
accept this:
“When I was a point guard at Wasilla High School,” she continued, “my nickname was ‘The Barracuda.’ Barracudas hunt in packs and they put a full-court press on their prey, just like people have been doing to me. And driving to the hoop, this barracuda didn’t want to succumb because if I let them beat me, I’d be like a dead fish floating with the current. But that’s not how this barracuda is wired. No siree.”
– sarah palin
:|
point guards and barracudas,
which one are you?
:::\\
think about it.
…
July 7th, 2009 at 1:19 pmPalin and dead barracuda are alike in that after three days they both stink. We’ve had WAY too many “three days” with Palin.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pmRepublicans Love Facts Says:
Tracy_5, that’s just one of hundreds of examples of liberal hypocrisy/double standards.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
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Do explain how.
Please remind me which liberal columnist or local Democratic Party organization used the doctored bikini photo of Sarah Palin to make the case against voting for her.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:27 pmShe even got the part about the barracuda wrong, joe.
Adult barracudas are more or less solitary in their habits, while young and half-grown fish frequently congregate in schools. These fish do not care for their young.
Also, wolves travel in packs. Not fish.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:27 pmwatchdog Says:
Progressivism is the epitome of apologetic and propagandizing politics.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
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Before you start trying to use polysyllabic words in your posts, you should probably look them up. How can one’s politics be apologetic and propagandizing at the same time?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pmTracy__5 Says:
#169
“Do explain how.”
Not my post dude.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
…
Not my post dude. = i’m a hopeless dork and i can’t tie my own shoes.
+++
dude.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pmTracy__5 Says:
“point guards and barracudas,
which one are you?”
What does that have to do with shoeless’s lying?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
***
it all depends on your strength and tenacity.
(or lack thereof.)
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pmTracy__5 Says:
joe cantwell = i’m a hopeless dork and i can’t speak in complete sentences OR read.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
…
i got your attention,
didn’t i?
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pmTracy__5 Says:
“it all depends on your strength and tenacity.”
Which is unmatched here. Again what does it have to do with shoeless’s lying?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
***
“if you can’t answer your own
question, why should i answer it for you?”
– winston churchill
:\
“unmatched”?
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pmTracy, are you disowning you invisible black best friend?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pmTracy__5 Says:
“i got your attention,
didn’t i?”
More like my curiousity about your inability to focus.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
…
really?
q: how many fingers am i holding up?
:|
a: one.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 1:52 pmYes, but just keep voting for them, because next time they will be true conservatives and everything will be perfect. Trust them.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:55 pmTracy… are we to assume then that you feel running the Palin Bikini picture you posted in op-ed columns or political ads condemning her as unfit to lead would be acceptable?
Yes, it’s altered. But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of her hunting parties. It resonates because people find it easy to see Palin that way.
Right? Is that what you are saying?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pmTracy, design any leaky medical buildings and get union workers fired because of your incompetence lately?
July 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
For some strange reason RLF and his fellow stalkers at their hate blog have made the silly assumption the you, joe cantwell, dbadass and reggie are all one and the same blogger.
July 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm…
stumped?
***
so much for “unmatched”
tenacity and strength.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pm…
reg,
rlf and rhf are one and the same.
the rest is alphabet soup.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 2:02 pmThis, in a thread about photo-shopped right-wing propaganda. Yet another irony challenged wingnut.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pmDoes he also laugh at your racist posts, or do you not allow him to see those?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmsesli sohbet, sesli chat, seslisohbet, seslichatsesli sohbet
July 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmTracy__5 Says:
#193
“really?
q: how many fingers am i holding up?
:|
a: one.
:)”
Why did you ask then?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
…
to test a theory
about you.
:)
“there’s an old saying in tennessee — t know it’s in texas, probably in tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
—president george w. bush, nashville, tenn., sept. 17, 2002
…
if he can learn from his mistakes,
why can’t you?
:|
July 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pmTracy__5 Says:
#199
“stumped?”
Regarding?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
:) :) :)
…
July 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pmoh man…
if you could only hear ed schultz dressing down franken for his “2nd senator” remark…
i can’t even reiterate parts of it… but, i do agree with ed here…
this is no time for the 60th senator to be wishy-washy…
lots of people – not just minnisotans – helped get him elected,
and that’s not the reason why…
wegoted.com will get ed’s site… maybe he’ll post it there…
hopefully… and, hopefully, al will listen and take heed.
…
ouch!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pm…
t5,
if you’re going to quit at least
do it with some dignity and class
the way sarah did.
…
as tyr would ask,
“have you no shame”?
:\
July 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm…
be a barracuda and a point guard!
***
July 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pmThe NRSC are the terrified party. Why else would they spend millions of their hard-earned propaganda dollars trying to invalidate and ridicule Al Franken before he is seated? How much was spent stonewalling him from taking his seat? What did they actually win by keeping his seat vacant for six months?
July 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmTracy__5 Says:
“if he can learn from his mistakes,
why can’t you?”
What mistake? All I have seen is video that depicts exactly how you type.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
****
682,492 views
+ 1
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmTracy says:“It resonates because people find it easy to see Palin that way.”
Again only with the most ignorant in this nation.
Okay, you do realize I was basically quoting Bronson there, right?
So you agree that only the most ignorant would find it easy to see Franken like he’s portrayed in the photo-shopped picture?
Would those ‘most ignorant’ react something like this?
Tracy__5 Says:
Too funny!!!
I think you may be right…
July 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm…
be a leader,
not a follower.
†††
July 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pmTracy__5 Says:
“if you’re going to quit at least
do it with some dignity and class”
Get someone in here that has had a ounce of tenacity and I will think about it.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
…
that would be a first.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pmTracy__5 Says:Get someone in here that has had a ounce of tenacity and I will think about it.
Ever finish ‘Against all Enemies?’
Remember you promised to read it over a year ago? And then said that Richard Clarke was too ‘obviously partisan’ to be taken seriously? Despite his being a life-long REPUBLICAN appointed by St. Ronnie Reagan?
Remember that? And then you ran away…
I remember that.
July 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pmTracy__5 Says:
“682,492 views
+ 1″
Were you #682,492?
…
no,
that would be tyr.
:)
sucker.
…
July 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pmwell, a minnesotan just called in to help talk ed down…
made really good points about how al had to present himself as serious to the residents of his state, after being portrayed as he has been (case in point here)… “give him a week” she said…
ed promised that if he were wrong about his fears he would be the first to acknowledge it…
i understand both sides, really…
and, still – GO AL!
July 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pmTracy:Many of those, which apparently includes yourself, thought the Palin photo to be funny because of her face on a gun toting body and as YOU said…
“But it’s not exacly [sic] a big reach to believe it could have come from one of her hunting parties.”
Again- if you had read the article you would realize that I was pointing out how ridiculous Bronson’s defense was…
I thought posting the almost word for word (I only substituted Palin for Franken) argument was funny for the ‘tounge-in-cheek humor aspect’ and yet you STILL call it my argument as if I were genuinely arguing that the Palin picture is okay to use in op-eds and political ads ’cause most people ‘ignorantly’ think she is a ‘redneck yahoo’ (all your words…)
The fact that you can’t recognize the ridiculousness of the argument when it’s parroted word for word and in fact mistake it for my own argument sort of shoots down your apparent ‘it’s obvious that it’s only for laughs’ argument, doesn’t it?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pmSo Bronson seems to feel that because Al Franken was an entertainer that any picture of him is fair game, including one of him in a diaper and bunny ears — even though he never played a character close to that.
I wonder if he believes that picture would be appropriate for Fred Grandy, Sonny Bono, Ronald Reagan, or Arnold Schwarzenegger — all of whom were entertainers prior to being elected to public office, and all of whom have played characters in some rather silly situations. It wouldn’t be difficult to photoshop any face in there.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pmTracy:No, because the bunny ears and the diaper don’t seem to have any relation to his personality or previous actions.
So if I were to post a picture of Sarah Palin photo-shopped onto this body…
with the caption, ‘Is this who you want making decisions about your health care, Alaska?’
you’d be fine with that? That’s what you’re arguing? Really?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pmNo I did not. I found a much better read by former Navy SEAL Richard Marcinko called “Rogue Warrior”.
So you lied when you promised to read it cover to cover and get back to me?
That’s a surprise!
July 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pmTracy__5 Says:
#222
“no,
that would be tyr”
You didn’t watch the video you posted?
***
i didn’t say that.
**
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pmWhat do you expect from someone who takes credit for the work of his associates?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pmI wonder what insight former Navy SEAL Richard Marcinko has into the events of September 11, 2001 that Richard Clarke does not… was Richard Marcinko the reason that Lynne Cheney kept hanging up the White House bunker’s direct line to Richard Clarke in the Situation Room perhaps?
No wonder you needed his analysis of the day… he had a direct line to Lynne Cheney! That explains everything!
July 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pmTracy__5 Says:
No, because the bunny ears and the diaper don’t seem to have any relation to his personality or previous actions. I just thought the outfit was funny combined with the look on his face.
Many of those, which apparently includes yourself, thought the Palin photo to be funny because of her face on a gun toting body and as YOU said…
You know, that’s fine. For those of us unwashed masses on the Internet making fun of the others’ politicians, photoshopping is perfectly OK. For a published columnist, it’s not. They should be expected to check and see whether something’s real or fake, and not deal in the fake.
There’s an entire range of decorum and responsibility that’s expected in political discourse, from elected officials at the top, through newspaper journalism, to the MSM, to the semi-pro blogosphere, and finally at the bottom is partisan commenters like ourselves.
The problem I’m seeing is that wingnuts don’t seem to understand that. When one of their politicians goes off their rocker, they respond by saying “well I saw a blog person saying the same sort of thing,” apparently oblivious to the fact that comparing their politician to our anonymous Internet dweller isn’t a fair comparision – to their politician. And this happens all the time.
Look, go ahead and pass around ridiculous shooped photos of Franken all you want at freepers or aceofspadeshq. Have fun, laugh your ass off at them. But when that creeps into your newspaper op-eds or your politicians’ speeches, then somebody screwed up big time, and we’re going to call you on it. When the entire discourse of the right wing has devolved to its own lowest common denominator, then it has finally and ultimately failed as a political philosophy.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:23 pm…
t5,
if you cared about you believe
you’d fight for it.
***
July 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pmWhat if I were to show you this photo, Tracy.
With the caption ‘Chemical Weapons Leaving Al-Musayyib’ even though there are no chemical weapons in the photo would that be wrong, Tracy?
It’s so patently false that you should know better, right? So it’s fine to use that in an op-ed or a political ad or say, a presentation to the U.N., right?
July 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm…
i mean really fight!
***
grrr,
:0
July 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
No I did not. I found a much better read by former Navy SEAL Richard Marcinko called “Rogue Warrior”.
So you lied when you promised to read it cover to cover and get back to me?
That’s a surprise!
Not to mention, Rogue Warrior was published in 1992. And Twacy probably only read the novels that followed – which are pretty entertaining, but not exactly brain trust material.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm…
t5,
be a point guard!
:)
grrr.
:0
July 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
belaccifer lacca Says:
No I did not. I found a much better read by former Navy SEAL Richard Marcinko called “Rogue Warrior”.
So you lied when you promised to read it cover to cover and get back to me?
That’s a surprise!
Not to mention, Rogue Warrior was published in 1992. And Twacy probably only read the novels that followed – which are pretty entertaining, but not exactly brain trust material.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
***
richard marcinko.
that’s the guy who makes
shampoo and cream rinse!
:| :|
July 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pmTracy was going to volunteer to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan but then he found a much better way to defend his country… he just installed this bad boy!
http://www.roguewarrior.com/
July 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pmFranklin should sue!
Ya know, contact that firm Nanook, Bumpkiss, and Von Fleece up there in Goose Bay Alaska, you betcha.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pmIt’s hard to tell sometimes with you guys sometimes what BS you believe. Next time don’t set yourself up like that.
Says the man who just argued that he didn’t need to read Richard Clarke’s assessment of the events of September 11, 2001 because he preferred reading a former Navy SEAL’s self-aggrandizing autobiography (published in 1992!) for his analysis of counter-terrorism… brilliant.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pmTracy__5 Says: I agree with your assessement of Bronson’s BS defense. Why do you think I posted the picture of Palin? Gezzzz….
Ahh, so when you posted this:
Tracy__5 Says:
Too funny!!!
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_sarah_palin_bikini_pic.htm
….but fake as well.
Dead wabbit!!!!
You didn’t mean that ‘both sides do it and that to it’s all in good fun and faking stuff should be aloud in political columns’ but rather that ‘Bronson’s defense is BS, a simple google-ing would have revealed that the photo was fake and therefore inappropriate to use in his column and that, while you find the image itself funny, you find that Bronson’s putting the image forward as ‘real’ and his subsequent justification of that use to be total B.S. and wrong?’
Hmm, I guess we mostly agree then… (I don’t find the image that funny, but to each there own.)
July 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pmWhy doesn’t someone photoshop the same pic but with Bronson’s face on it???
July 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pmaloud = allowed above… sheesh.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pmamish_edison Says:
Why doesn’t someone photoshop the same pic but with Bronson’s face on it???
Because the Dean of Cincinnati beat us to it.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pmI am not arguing anything and yeah it wouldn’t bother because it wouldn’t suprise me that you would do it. Seems kinda the norm for you guys on the left.
And what if I were a columnist or a journalist for a newspaper? Say the Cincinnati Enquirer,
July 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pmshouldn’t I be held to a little higher standard than some anonymous poster on a blog?
It doesn’t surprise me that you’d argue that right after posting some nonsense about a late-night talk show host’s failed joke. Cognitive Dissonance Seems kinda the norm for you guys on the right.
But you’re still wrong.
Tracy__5 Says:
#232
“What do you expect from someone who takes credit for the work of his associates?”
I don’t. Yet another broken record lie of yours.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
***
we have ipods.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 4:08 pmYeah I did, but I could only take so much BS one sided bias from partisian hack like Clark.
Clarke is a life-long REPUBLICAN appointed by Reagan who served with distinction through four administrations… who’s a partisan hack again?
How does one gain a reputation for honesty with you, Tracy?
Agree with all your pre-conceived notions? Right an auto-biography that becomes a video game? What?
July 7th, 2009 at 4:08 pmTracy__5 Says:
#233
“I wonder what insight former Navy SEAL Richard Marcinko has into the events of September 11, 2001 that Richard Clarke does not…”
Apparently alot more about how terrorists operate and think.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
***
“it take one
to know one.”
– the holy bible
:::
July 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pmApparently alot more about how terrorists operate and think.
How do you know? You never finished the book… you just read enough to decide you didn’t agree and picked up the video-game version of counter-terrorism instead.
That says a whole lot about you, Tracy. Sorry.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm,,,
take = takes
***
July 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pmI’m just so thrilled about the election of Al Franken. The Young Republican Says needs to go play with his own kind. Just sounds silly on this particular sight of the evolved.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pmWould you believe Clarke if he were CONVICTED of a federal crime?
July 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm-wikipedia
I seriously doubt he’s even seen the book, belaccifer lacca. They never seem to risk reading, buying, or even touching anything that might be tainted with “teh librul”.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pmIn November of 2000 the NAACP airs an ad you disagree with and you bring it up now?
A former Navy SEAL writes an autobiography in 1992 and you look to it for analysis of the events of September 11, 2001?
We have to have a talk about the progression of time, Tracy. I know you’re against anything with progress in the title but trust me, time is bipartisan.
Geez.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pmTracy__5 Says:
“But when that creeps into your newspaper op-eds or your politicians’ speeches”
Or those race baiters who represent your politicians….
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200011/ai_n8927120/
July 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
***
indeed.
:)
July 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pmTracy__5 Says:
#236
“So it’s fine to use that in an op-ed or a political ad or say, a presentation to the U.N., right?”
No it’s not. Why do you assume so much without investigating first?
I didn’t assume… I asked you.
Hear was your response (the first part is my question that you are repeating, just so you don’t get confused):
Timeline stuff got you down again?
July 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pmTracy__5 Says:
#238
“And Twacy probably only read the novels that followed – which are pretty entertaining, but not exactly brain trust material.”
Better that Clark’s one sided conclusions.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
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conclusions usually are.
:)
good luck.
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July 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pmBetter that Clark’s one sided conclusions.
Again- Clarke is a REPUBLICAN. Those ‘one sided conclusions’ are all coming from YOUR side.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pmTracy__5 Says:
#238
“And Twacy probably only read the novels that followed – which are pretty entertaining, but not exactly brain trust material.”
Better that Clark’s one sided conclusions.
Ah, I get it. “One sided” means that you don’t like his conclusions — even though you’ve never read them.
Marcinko, on the other hand, isn’t “one sided” because you agree with him, and even though Marcinko’s experience has been (a) entirely different perspective than Clarke’s and (b) pre-dates 9/11.
This is exactly the sort of thing that validates what I wrote yesterday about your confused ideology being revealed in your comments here — which you denied.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
Yeah I did, but I could only take so much BS one sided bias from partisian hack like Clark.
Clarke is a life-long REPUBLICAN appointed by Reagan who served with distinction through four administrations… who’s a partisan hack again?
How does one gain a reputation for honesty with you, Tracy?
Agree with all your pre-conceived notions? Right an auto-biography that becomes a video game? What?
Simply adding a recommendation was not enough for me. Very nicely done.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:41 pmRemember when Tracist used to pretend to be a moderate?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pmTracy… you’re right.
‘Against all Enemies‘ isn’t ‘tainted’ with ‘liberal wimp speak’ simply because it is no written by a liberal.
Perhaps if you’d bothered to read it (like you promised you would) you would know that.
Why should we take you seriously when you are not only an admitted liar (or at the very least, untrustworthy) but also willfully ignorant and petulant about it?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pmYou had a good one yourself, at #270, gummble-bee-itch.
It’s fun to watch these freaks defend the most horrible crap from those who have an (R) after their name, unless they say something the trolls think sounds “librul”.
They defend: wife beating, sexual scandal, financial scandal, legal scandal, mental health scandal, and outright rape of our country but? If some poor (R) says, “we screwed up” (which only happens a few times per decade) they throw the poor sap under the bus screeching about RINOs.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pmHis assessment was partisian and politically motivated. Why would I?
What part of ‘Clarke is a REPUBLICAN, appointed by Reagan who served through 4 administrations with distinction’ is evading you, Tracy?
What part of Clarke being an agcknowledged expert on counter-terrorism is confusing?
What part of the publishing of ‘Rogue Warrior’ in 1992 occurred NINE YEARS prior to 2001 is murky???
How can we help?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThere’s no help, belaccifer lacca. I’ve tried, Oh Lawd I’ve tried! But you can’t get past the iron walls that they use to compartmentalize their minds.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pmTracy, you better get going. It’s a long commute from Dallas to rural Pennsylvania.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pmTracy_5 Says: THAT IS SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED hence my calling Bronson’s defence BS. Get it?
But when you post this response to my original question on this subject:
Tracy__5 Says:
“Tracy… are we to assume then that you feel running the Palin Bikini picture you posted in op-ed columns or political ads condemning her as unfit to lead would be acceptable?”
Op-ed columns…no problem. Political ads….absolutely.
You can see why I think you think it should be allowed, huh?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:27 pmOT:
I already posted this on the Palin thread and I don’t wish to spam but, since I never grow tired of my cleverness, I have to repost it here.
I was struck by the odd phrase, “barracudas hunt in packs”. The obvious gaffe is that fish travel in schools, not packs. But, I decided to do a little reading about barracuda because I used to fish for them and recalled that we seldom caught more than one at a time/place.
Well. I found this tidbit at Wikipedia:
Adult barracudas are more or less solitary in their habits, while young and half-grown fish frequently congregate in schools. These fish do not care for their young.
So? Barracuda do not “hunt in packs” or schools once they are adults and the part about not caring for their young is just funny. But then, I dug up an old booklet, ca. 1970, about the sport fish of California and I found this bit that describes Bible Spice even better.
Under the heading “sport value” I found this:
“The barracuda strikes quickly from ambush. Good for one strong run then becomes exhausted and submits to the net.”
Hell’s bells! She really is a barracuda.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:29 pmTracy__5 Says:
“But when that creeps into your newspaper op-eds or your politicians’ speeches”
Or those race baiters who represent your politicians….
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200011/ai_n8927120/
No, advocacy organizations are a separate category. I’d put them just below the MSM.
The entire point of my post was to describe that the categories are different, and you go and screw it up. NAACP =/= Barack Obama. Fcuk, you’re stoopid. But let’s go ahead and add your category into the list. It now goes (from highest responsibility to lowest)…
1. Elected officials
2. Print journalists
3. Network TV news
4. Cable TV news
5. Advocacy organizations
6. Major websites
7. Minor websites and blogs
8. Commenters at any websites
Now, if you find anything else that is not one of the things I listed above, you do not just combine it with the highest level like you did last time. Instead you add it as a new category where appropriate. I’ll be back to check your work, dumbass.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pmTracy says:
“But you’re still wrong.”
About what?
Do we need to go down the list?
You’ve been wrong about a lot today… and petulantly so.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pmPsssst, I’ll let you in on a secret. Tracy lies about everything.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pmSome cross over when it suits their political agenda.
What political agenda do you believe was served by Clarke’s book?
Couldn’t he have done just as well politically and commercially (or if your side’s absurd claim about a ‘Conservative Nation’ is correct, BETTER) by saying that Bush did everything right? That neither he nor Bush were to blame for 9/11 and that they reacted appropriately?
You’re weird.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pmI see you’re just getting to know Tracy. Did you know that his name is Art Vandelay?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pmTracy__5 Says:
#255
“Clarke is a life-long REPUBLICAN appointed by Reagan”
Some cross over when it suits their political agenda.
What part of “life-long” didn’t you understand? Or do people magically and temporarily become Democrats whenever they disagree with you about anything? What do you use instead of word meanings on your planet? Bleep bloop bla bleep bork?
July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pmTracy__5 Says:
Some cross over when it suits their political agenda.
What about those who change their agenda when new information demands it? Those who realize that their agenda was wrong? Given the choice between responding to real-world events and preserving the agenda? I’ll take the first choice every time.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pmAre you suggesting that Marcinko was not a SEAL and that his counter-terrorism expertise doesn’t far exceed anything Clarke has ever done or anyone you know?
Yes- I’m actually suggesting that the head of counter-terrorism under both Clinton and G.W. Bush probably has more first hand knowledge and ‘expertise’ regarding both the events that led up to 9/11 and the subsequent reaction in the White House than a former Navy SEAL who last served in the mid-80’s… surprising, I know.
But yet also strangely logical when you actually think about it.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pmYou asked a question under an assuming premise that I thought in hind sight even today that Powell’s presentation was not a partial fabrication.
Slow down and think this through… ’cause this is gibberish.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:09 pmJust because someone calls themselves a Republican doesn’t mean that he/she is a conservative. I mean you are aware that Snowe, Chaffe, and Specter are not conservatives….right?
You are aware that just because you disagree with someone that doesn’t make them a ‘partisan hack’… right?
You have shown ZERO evidence that anything that Clarke wrote is inaccurate and you have admitted that after a few pages you didn’t even bother to read anymore and instead turned to an autobiography published nine years before the events of September 11, 2001 simply because it reinforced your preconceived notions about counter-terrorism.
So you are aware that even though you may think of yourself as an expert you have ZERO credibility on this issue… right?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pmMarcinko’s accounts and conclusions aren’t based on his personal politics
As I have pointed out time and again- neither are Clarke’s.
And his accounts and conclusions have the added virtue of being actually relevant to the discussion of 9/11 as he had first hand knowledge of the events that led up to it and the aftermath in the White House… get it?
And certainly some of the content of Marcinko’s book is refuted by the courts that found him GUILTY of federal crimes…
July 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pmNo following thru on some BS promise to someone as unimportant as yourself doesn’t remotely qualify as lying.
Got it.
Does it qualify as dishonest?
or self-serving? or self-deluding?
July 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pmI will take a field operative accounts over a career government official any day.
I take it then that you are ready to admit that Water-boarding was criminally counter-productive and inefficient?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/former-fbi-agent-calls-waterboarding-counterproductive/
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pmAbsolutely not. The fact the I posted the Palin picture at the very beginning should have cleared it up for you….apparently I was wrong.
Perhaps not typing this: Op-ed columns…no problem. Political ads….absolutely.
In response to my question: Tracy… are we to assume then that you feel running the Palin Bikini picture you posted in op-ed columns or political ads condemning her as unfit to lead would be acceptable?
The fact that you answered my question in the affirmative to both is what was confusing me… but obviously the very fact that you posted a photo shopped photo of Palin should have tipped me off that we were in complete agreement.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:00 pmTracy__5 Says:
#281
“You can see why I think you think it should be allowed, huh?”
Absolutely not. The fact the I posted the Palin picture at the very beginning should have cleared it up for you….apparently I was wrong.
July 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
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where did you find that picture?
???
July 7th, 2009 at 7:00 pmSeveral decades ago, when I was growing up, “conservative” meant to be careful, logical, and thoughtful. They sought to fix what was broken while leaving things that work alone. It made a lot of sense.
The reckless radicals who have appropriated the name are not “conservative”. Today’s Democrats are pretty conservative. Today’s GOoPers are effing off the scale.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pmWho care where you “put them”? You are in no intellectual position to even attemt to articulate the difference.
Said the man who just argued that a former Navy SEAL who retired in the mid-80’s and then was IMPRISONED for defrauding the people has more ‘expertise’ regarding 9/11 than the former czar of counter-terrorism who ran the situation room on 9/11… jeebus.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pmI will take a field operative accounts over a career government official any day.
Do you have any field operative accounts from 9/11?
‘Cause what I got is Clarke’s account of what actually happened in the White House while HE WAS THERE.
Still confused why it’s relevant and your opinion is not?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:08 pmTracy__5 Says:
#286
“You’ve been wrong about a lot today… and petulantly so.”
You got it wrong over 200 posts ago when I first posted here. Go back to sleep.
I see you’re still petulant… and still wrong.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pmTracy__5 Says:
Are you suggesting that Marcinko was not a SEAL and that his counter-terrorism expertise doesn’t far exceed anything Clarke has ever done or anyone you know?
Clarke: Department of Defense employee; State Department employee; member of the Senior Executive Service specializing in intelligence, cyber security and counter-terrorism; counter-terrorism czar for both the the Clinton and Bush Administrations.
Marcinko: United States Navy SEAL Team Six.
I don’t have any problems with Marcinko’s service, but it’s hardly even remotely close to the high-level experience that Clarke has. It’s like you’re claiming that an army private knows more than a five-star general about the appropriate defense posture for the United States in the 21st Century.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Clinton was never convicted even though he committed a federal crime.
Lying under oath in a deposition relevant to a sexual harrassment suit against you isn’t a federal crime. It is a crime, but not federal.
If you’re going to try to present your arguments effectively, it’s important to be correct about the relevance of your comparisons.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Just because someone calls themselves a Republican doesn’t mean that he/she is a conservative. I mean you are aware that Snowe, Chaffe, and Specter are not conservatives….right?
They’re center-right. They’re what “conservative” used to mean before most of you wingnuts went completely insane. I’d still call them conservative based on the appropriate definition of the term.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Marcinko’s accounts and conclusions aren’t based on his personal politics, just his experiences as field operative something Clark has never even come close to.
If I need to ask someone how to pull the trigger when I’ve got a terrorist in my scope then I’ll ask Marcinko. If I need to ask someone how the U.S. can work with other nations to reduce the threat of international terrorism then I’ll ask Clarke, whose experience as an expert at the international level is something Marcinko has never even come close to.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pmnot to mention the crap about him really being a Republican.
Ahh, so he fooled Ronald Reagan into believing he was a Republican so that he could lie in wait for 15 or so years through 4 administrations until after an attack like 9/11 where he could then take personal responsibility for not doing enough to make W. understand the dangers of Al Qaeda so he could get a book deal and try (unsuccessfully) to get Kerry elected?
He’s quite a mastermind.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pmExpertise about the events leading up to 9/11 doesn’t automatically make on a counter terrorism expert.
No but 30+ years working on counter-terrorism in the State Department and being elevated to counter-terrorism czar generally indicate more than a passing familiarity with the subject, don’t you agree?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:17 pmTracy__5 Says:
I never said he was inaccurate…only that his argument that going to Iraq to take out Saddam was not the right is wrong. It’s an opinion just like yours.
What was the prior justification for taking out Saddam?
How was it right?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pmI never said he was inaccurate…only that his argument that going to Iraq to take out Saddam was not the right is wrong. It’s an opinion just like yours.
Ahh, so you don’t dispute the facts, only the opinions?
You don’t dispute that Clarke could not get a meeting to discuss Al-Qaeda at all in the months leading up to 9/11?
Or that the first thing that Cheney and Bush asked him to do after 9/11 was to ‘uncover’ the link between Iraq and Al-Qaeda and that he could find NO such link? That in fact he found that such a link was HIGHLY unlikely?
That Lynne Cheney repeatedly hung up the direct line between the situation room and the bunker where she and Dick and Condi were secreted so that she could better hear Fox New’s reporting of the events? And possibly hampered the response of the FAA to the initial hijackings as a result?
These things you don’t dispute?
Great.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pmSome field operatives have varying opinions I am sure. Depends on their experiences. I don’t like it.
Find ONE field operative who thinks it’s a good idea.
Just one.
I can wait.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pmWhy would I have posted it?
Why did you answer: Op-ed columns…no problem. Political ads….absolutely. when I asked if this sort of photo-shopped deception was acceptable in op-ed columns or political ads?
That’s why I thought you were okay with it… you said you were.
Get it?
July 7th, 2009 at 7:36 pm…
trace,
in #327 you’re contradicting what you said on #74,
#93, #104, #120, #315. #265. #252 and parts of #262.
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you want to watch out for that.
makes you look inconsistent.
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July 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pmEvery two hours Tracy__5 hits himself in the head with a ball peen hammer until he forgets the last two hours, then starts the argument over at the beginning.
July 7th, 2009 at 7:53 pmTracy__5 Says:
Some field operatives have varying opinions I am sure. Depends on their experiences. I don’t like it.
We have a winner in the category: Freudian slip of the day.
Different people have different experiences. Based on those experiences, they reach different conclusions. Trolls can’t accept that fact because they refuse to adjust their conclusions based on experience.
They just can’t wrap their heads around the idea of changing one’s mind based on experience. That’s why they cling to dogma regardless of their own experiences.
July 7th, 2009 at 8:03 pm…
we’ve lost trace.
“candle in the wind” time baby.
:(
July 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pmpete Says:
They just can’t wrap their heads around the idea of changing one’s mind based on experience. That’s why they cling to dogma regardless of their own experiences.
They view changing one’s mind as treason. This is what happens when one substitutes loyalty to ideology for actual cognitive processing.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:32 pmHoly shi*, I just picked up the thread and saw where tracy 5 has just totally bombarded it. I give up, I’m not reading his nonsense. His moniker should be tracy 5000 to indicate how many stupid comments he can make in a week.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:32 amY’all really should stop responding to the Tracist. Might as well bang your head on the bottom of a pool.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:38 am.
If it was Vitter…
… Well then, I would have no question as to the legitimacy of the photo.
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July 8th, 2009 at 2:49 amTracy lies constantly. Sometimes, it’s obvious that he deludes himself into believing his own lies. He live in a make believe world of deception. As joe cantwell noted in #330, Tracy’s lies often begin to contradict each other. Many times, his lies about his personal life piece together to form a bizzare picture. In this case, he has admitted that he lied, but has rationalized his lie by convincing himself that you are not worthy of being told the truth. In this way, Tracy keeps his delusional self-image by telling himself it is OK to lie to those who are beneath him.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:03 amshoeless Says:
In this case, he has admitted that he lied, but has rationalized his lie by convincing himself that you are not worthy of being told the truth. In this way, Tracy keeps his delusional self-image by telling himself it is OK to lie to those who are beneath him.
I find the psychology of the wingnut somewhat fascinating. One of the things I’ve always wanted to understand is – when they pass around blatant falsehoods, ones which are easy to check and verify, someone in the chain of information made it up as a complete lie; the rest of them either were duped or were in on the lie. So why would they lie to each other constantly if they’re on the same side? And if one was merely duped, wouldn’t they harbor some resentment against all of the other wingnuts lying to them constantly?
I guess your explanation covers why they’d lie to us. Or maybe they’re all in on it, and all know they’re lies. But it seems a stretch to say that the entire right wing is a massive conspiracy of people making up crazy shit. Surely at least some of them have to honestly believe the crazy shit they get worked up about.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Again I am not the one who didn’t understand the first time why I posted the Palin photo.
So why did you post the Palin photo? I get that it was shooped, but it’s hardly very insulting to her. She is a patriot, she is pro-gun, and most folks consider her attractive – so there are no implied insults there. It’s actually a somewhat flattering image. Unlike the photoshopped pic of Franken. Go find one that’s a lot less flattering and you might have a point of some sort. But it still wouldn’t be relevant to the fact that the Franken image was used in a newspaper op-ed and passed off as true.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:31 amYes, when you admitted that you lied, it was probably the first time you have told the truth. Of course, you couldn’t stop there. you had to dehumanize belaccifer lacca in order to justify your lie.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:23 amCharles Krauthammer told us what is going on. They have created an alternate reality. He came right out and told Fox News viewers that Fox was lying to them. Fox went to court in order to be able to legally lie, and call it “news”. So, it is no secret to the wingnuts, yet they continue to consume the lies spilling forth from their TV sets and radios. I’ve come to the conclusion that they lie to each other in order to make their bizzaro world feel real to them. It has become a complete lifestyle. They have learned how to fully embrace and live the lie. That is why someone like Tracy comes here and spins weird and fantastic tales about his personal life.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:35 amDoes your invisible black best friend know you feel this way?
July 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pmSee what I mean ElBruce. Tracy is a perfect example. He completely rejects the real world, and actually seems to believe that the right-wing created, alternate reality is real.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:11 pmUnlike you, I can’t see invisible people.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pmAh Tracy, I thought you were making progress when you admitted that you lied. Now, you are lying about admitting that you lied.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Tracy, Krauthammer admitted that the right-wing has cooked up this alternate reality in which you live.
This is getting scary.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pmTracy, why do you make BS promises?
July 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pmIs it OK to make BS promises in the alternate reality?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pmLet me get this straight, and I’ll let you go.
You live in an alternate right-wing reality, in which you are a superior being who makes BS promises to those beneath you.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pmBut shoeless, we already knew all that…
Tracist is a Republican. All that stuff goes without saying. But kudos to you for drawing an explicit confession out of him.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pmI suppose in the right-wing alternate reality, President Obama is a liar, and George W. Bush is honest.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmActually, belaccifer lacca deserves the credit for finally getting Tracist to tell the truth and admit that he lied. I have just been putting the whole story together in yet another bizzare episode of Tracy World- The Alternate Reality.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pmIs George W. Bush a liar for telling hundreds of documented lies in order to invade Iraq?
You don’t want to play this game Tracy. You’ve got the blood of hundreds of thoushands of innocent women and children on your hands from your support of George W. Bush and the lies he told about Iraq. And that is real reality.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pmI think it’s sweet that you crave my approval so much. But, I don’t live in alternate reality, so I can’t let you off the hook. Sorry.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pmIf President Obama lied to you, it’s OK, because “not following thru on some BS promise to someone as unimportant as yourself doesn’t remotely qualify as lying.”
July 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI just did. Thanks for playing. This little trip through alternate reality has been fascinating, but it’s making me dizzy. I need to go back to the real world for air.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI see you are confused. In the real world, when I quote your lies, that does not mean they become mine. They still belong to you.
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July 8th, 2009 at 5:28 pmPeter Bronson just got axed from the Enquirer.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pmTracy.
I understand it’s more exciting to get into a name calling spit fight than to deal with your own ineptitude and the silliness of your arguments but let me help you get back on track, if I can.
#1- Why did you say you thought these photo shopped pictures were fine in op-ed pieces and political ads if you agree with me that they aren’t? See #329…
#2- Why did you say that you would read, ‘Against all Enemies’ if you had no intention of doing so? See entire second half of thread…
#3- Do you dispute the FACTS of 9/11 as laid out in Richard Pearle’s book or do you accept that they are a true representaion of the events of that day from his perspective?
See #325…
#4- Why should anyone take you seriously when you refuse to answer direct questions and admit that you will not tell the truth to posters here (myself) in order to further your agenda? See #251 and #300…
July 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pmDid you? I can’t seem to remember the title though.
Yeah, I did. Although now I don’t remember what it was either. But I dutifully checked it out from the library and read, like I said I would. And then gave you my opinion. In detail. You then said that you had put down ‘Against all Enemies’ after a few pages. Lame.
#209 should have said…
“Op-ed columns…no problem. Political ads….absolutely NOT.”
Okay. But it didn’t. That’s why I kept asking you to clarify. You didn’t. And don’t tell me what should or should not have been asked- it’s on YOU to make yourself clear. It is you bad.
BTW you were the one who brought up the book thing for no apparent reason. Talk about silliness and off track.
I brought it up for this reason:
Tracy__5 Says:
“it all depends on your strength and tenacity.”
Which is unmatched here.
You ran away from the book thing a year ago… so I was just being ‘tenacious,’ Even though I cannot hope to match your strength or tenacity,
And yes, I meant Richard Clarke. I’m glad to hear that you don’t think he’s lying. Why do you think that Bush and Cheney asked him to find a link between al Qaeda and Iraq the day after 9/11? Why do you think that he couldn’t? Why do you think that Lynne kept hanging up the phone line between the bunker and the situation room on 9/11? Why do you think Mr. Clarke never got that meeting with W. about al Qaeda?
July 9th, 2009 at 7:26 pmThat right there is a lie because you could have only purchased it from a book store just as I had to purchase (and then exchange for better reading) Clarke’s book.
Bull.
I got it from the library… are you an idiot?
Tracy- you are full of crap and you know it.
If you had been clear then I would have ‘got’ it. Or maybe I would have ‘got’ it if you hadn’t answered my direct question with the complete opposite position you now say you had all along. Get it?
You are not clear. I checked out ‘Against all Enemies’ from the library as well… why are you so full of shit?
Remind me what book it was and I’ll check it out again… or I’ll just search my library history… you are a strange and weird person Tracy.
And totally and completely wrong about a lot of things.
July 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pmMaybe libraries in Texas suck, Tracy… but in Seattle they have all kinds of books… including ones that make sense to idiots like you.
July 10th, 2009 at 2:21 pmDo you want to restart our little book club, Tracy?
You tell me what I should read and I will and discuss it with you as long as you (actually, no fooling) read Clarke’s book cover to cover?
Why do I feel like Charlie Brown to your Lucy, Tracy?
July 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm“or I’ll just search my library history”
I have the book right here in front of me. If it is that easy to do you shouldn’t have a problem looking at the list a figuring out which book it was. Let me know when you find out the title because it wasn’t that long ago.
Oh for god’s sake- you’re such a baby, Tracy.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pmYou know that?
How about you tell me the title since it appears that the Seattle Public Library doesn’t keep an ongoing list of what I checked out over a YEAR ago… (I thought they did… I was wrong, ‘My Bad’)
July 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pmWas it Jawbreaker? I vaugely remember reading that at around the same time and it sort of blamed Clinton for not going after Bin Laden forcefully enough (which you would like) and it read like a ‘tough guy’ screenplay (which you seem to love)
That it?
July 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pmI don’t recall this book at all really but would love to read it again and discuss it with you… if you’re up to it this time. I don’t want to waste my time on your silliness again.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:19 pmThe deal is that you read “Against all Enemies” Remember?
And “Suree….”???
You are quite a funny guy, aren’t ya?
I’m not the one who promised to do something and then failed, remember?
How long do you need to ‘read’ Clarke’s book?
July 10th, 2009 at 4:25 pmDid you want me to add ‘Jawbreaker’ and ‘Rogue Warrior’ too?
I’m a pretty fast reader and ‘Rogue Warrior’ looks like a nice bit of fluff… I always enjoyed Tom Clancy novels…
All you have to do is read Clarke’s book. Like you said you would. And then didn’t.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pmSounds good.
Yes. I’m insisting that I do the things I say I do, that’s correct. I remember reading a couple of books in the ‘tough guy’ mold of counter-terrorism… one was ‘Jawbreaker.’
I don’t remember ‘Ghost’ specifically anymore… no. I read a lot and the stuff that doesn’t impress me gets shuffled aside in my noggin. But I don’t say I’ve done something or am going to do something and then not do it.
But if I told you about my opinions then, which I did, I read it. I’m sure it’ll come back to me when I read it again.
Yes. Again. Some of us do the things we say we’ll do here and manage to keep our jobs, and families and other things as well.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pmWell in this instance we will have to agree to disagree with your personal assessment of yourself.
Boy, you’re a jerk aren’t you, Tracy?
That’s my assessment of you. I can merely go by the asinine things you say about yourself and others on this blog…
Here’s hoping you rise above that and the demands of ‘family, work and other pressing matters’ and follow through… I have doubts.
Based on past performance. Or failure to perform in the past.
See you around.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pmAre you sure that Clarke was not just pissed off because he got demoted?
Maybe after you read the book you can speak with some authority about it… doubtful, but maybe.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pmNo- Tracy… you are the one calling me a liar… and couching it in the following nonsense:
Well in this instance we will have to agree to disagree with your personal assessment of yourself.
That’s after you’ve spent weeks calling shoeless a ‘liar’ for merely doubting your assessment of yourself and your racism (or lack there of) based on your having a black friend (or lack there of).
So to then type this:
Well in this instance we will have to agree to disagree with your personal assessment of yourself.
in reaction to my assuring you that I’ve done what I say I’ve done is pretty asinine and stupid.
Prove I didn’t read it and I’ll prove you are a racist. See how asinine this conversation you’re having is? Proof is boring… and you’re becoming so as well.
Please do go through what I’ve said on this thread… perhaps it will be instructive. My assessment of you is that you are a pompous ass… I will discuss Ghost with you is detail (again) after I read it (again) because I follow through when I say I’m going to do something.
Despite my almost certain disappointment regarding your failure to fulfill your end of the bargain. (again)
Sigh.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pmWhat proof could I offer that you’d accept? I spoke of the book when I read it… you obviously remember because you accused me of copying my thoughts off of an online review.
You’re a pompous gasbag and you can call me a liar all you want… that don’t make it so.
You are the one who backed out on our deal, (you admitted it) which makes you- if not a liar, certainly untrustworthy.
And boy? Patronize someone else… ’cause you got nothing on me, all I’m asking for is a tiny ’shread’ [sic] of intellectual honest and rigor, ‘boy.’
July 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm