GOP Rep. Introduces Bill To Deny U.S. Funding For Nobel Winning IPCC Because Of Its ‘Junk Science’
GOP Rep. Introduces Bill To Deny U.S. Funding For Nobel Winning IPCC Because Of Its ‘Junk Science’
Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) this week introduced a bill purporting to “save taxpayers $12.5 million this year and millions more in the future by prohibiting the United States from contributing to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is fraught with waste and is engaged in dubious science.” In a press release, Luetkemeyer explained his move:
We all know that the UN is incompetent when it comes to spending money, and that is why American taxpayers should not be forking over millions more to one of its organizations that not only is in need of significant reform but is engaged in dubious scientific quests. Folks in Missouri and across the country are tired of this never ending government spending spree, and my goal is to deliver some of our people’s hard-earned money back into their pocketbooks instead of spending it on international junk science.
Far from “junk science,” the IPCC is generally regarded as the world’s top authority on issues of global warming and climate change. The U.S. National Resource Council has praised the IPCC, calling its conclusions “accurate.” The Royal Meteorological Society referred to the IPCC as “the world’s best climate scientists.” In fact, the Nobel Committee seems to think so too, awarding the panel in 2007 with the Nobel Peace Prize “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change.”
Stating his case, Luetkemeyer said that “more than 700 international scientists” signed onto a Senate GOP report questioning that global warming is man-made and said that number is more than “the number of UN scientists, 52, who authored a report claiming that human emissions of carbon dioxide are responsible” for climate change. (One of these “700 scientists” has no college degree and another doubt’s Darwin’s theory of evolution.)
Yet, the IPCC’s most recent report, which found that global climate change is “very likely” to have a human cause, was reviewed by more than 2,500 experts and was written by more than 800 contributing authors and 450 lead authors.
To bolster his argument, Luetkemeyer claimed that the EPA (in its entirety apparently) says the world is actually cooling. No, the “EPA” doesn’t say the world is cooling. Luetkemeyer is referring to EPA economist (i.e. not a scientist) Alan Carlin’s assertion in an allegedly “suppressed” document that “global temperatures have declined for 11 years.” In fact, the last decade will likely be the hottest on record. And while annual global temperatures have both fallen and risen in the last 11 years, climate scientists have identified long-term warming trends spanning decades to indicate that the earth is warming, not just the last 11 years.
(HT: UN Dispatch)
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These sick bastards. I guess the only “science” a repignofascist will believe is that spewed from the mouth of Rush, the former pen of well known climate scientist and novelist Michael Crichton, or the vile mouth of another well known climate scientist Senator James Inhofe (R-OK).
Congressman Blaine Luetkemeyer introduced this ridiculous bill after he voted against the Stimulus package. That suggests just how far up his Cheney the Congressman’s head is planted.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pmFolks in Missouri and across the country are tired of this never ending government spending spree, and my goal is to deliver some of our people’s hard-earned money back into their pocketbooks instead of spending it on international junk science.
How about scrapping the missile defense boondoggle? It would save taxpayers a lot more than a paltry 12 mil.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:01 pmBetween this bozo, Rush Limprod and that bimbo state representative who wants to cut food programs for school kids because hunger is a great motivator, I begin to suspect that parts of the great state of Missouri still use lead pipes for their drinking water.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pmJunk Science = Nobel Prize, because W or Ronnie Raygun didn’t get one?
How can this guy pass for a congressman?
Oh, he’s from Roy Blount, Kit Bond and Jim Talent’s state? THAT sure explains a lot.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pmDarn you dogless LBURLS!
Don’t cha all know the pious GOPiggies answer to everything is to PRAY!
PRAYER is much cheaper compared to SCIENCE!
If we all end up in a man made climatic disaster, well, the flying spaghetti monster willed it that way.
PRAYER! It also works wonders on pop quizzes.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmIs this guy related to the moron from Arizona who thinks the world is 6,000 years old?
July 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pmThere’s no such thing as “junk science”. If it’s “junk”? It’s not science.
The use of the term displays an inability to understand scientific subjects.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pmThis lunkhead doesn’t believe in climate change, so he stands opposed to the rest of the world and introduces legislation to advertise his ignorance.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pmWho stands with him in this stupid project?
Oh boy! another nut who thinks humans walked with dinosaurs. Where do these nut jobs come from? I bet if asked, this clown believes Noahs ark was real and Adam and Eve really walked out of the garden of eden.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pmpaleolib Says:
…I begin to suspect that parts of the great state of Missouri still use lead pipes for their drinking water.
The lead pipes are bad enough but, their insistence on flavoring their coffee with mercury is a real problem.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pmIt’s 1984 and Gingrichism is alive and well: False controversy for the sake of controversy to point to.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:22 pmMarie Says: “This lunkhead doesn’t believe in climate change, so he stands opposed to the rest of the world and introduces legislation to advertise his ignorance.
Who stands with him in this stupid project?”
I DO! I stand by him! Wearing a T-shirt that says “I’m with Stupid and his stupid stupidity project” ( and the arrow of course).
July 10th, 2009 at 3:22 pmAs a resident of Missouri, I assure you, that most of us here don’t smoke what this guy is selling. My apologies however for having to be unfortunately associated with this individual based on my state of residence.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pmIMPORTANT BREAKING STORY:
Surveillance went beyond warrantless wiretapping
IG Report: Bush surveillance program extended well beyond just warrentless wiretapping
When obama was virtually unknown and asking for money, he was willing to proclaim he would not support immunity and used very strong rhetoric to state this.
When he had the nomination mostly locked-up, he threw those supporters under the bus, capitulating to the most unpopular president in US History (by some measures, even more so than Richard Nixon when he resigned).
This is why many demand we have a dialog about accountability now – after all, obama is a self-proclaimed “expert” on the constitution.
Did FISA reform and the retro immunity mean that no one can be held accountable for this?
We cannot let this be shoved down the “memory hole”.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pmR(MO) is a real clue. Reject Moron.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pmWhy do conservatives revel in their ignorance?
Ironic Luetkemeyer should call the IPCC’s findings “junk science” while relying on the opinion of a creationist at the Discovery Institute -the same people who are still pushing for the inclusion of the so-called “Intelligent Design Theory” in the public school’s scientific curricula.
Goes to show they have no idea what science actually is.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pmFriedman, no offense intended from my last post. My grandma was a member of the Stout clan from Joplin…
July 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pmAnother Joe, damn man, this is the thrid thread in a row that you tryed to highjack with OT shit. Go start your own blog instead of taking every thread here off topic
July 10th, 2009 at 3:30 pmThe difference between science and junk science to a GOP nutjob is basically a bright burning flame, in the name of the lord…of course.
Who need facts when you can have ash?
July 10th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIn about 100 years, when Missouri is a desert, and the mighty rivers that now run through it are a trickle, someone will surely be pissing on this idiot’s grave.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:31 pmThat’s the only thing Republicans are good for: bringing junk bills and obstructing…
July 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pmRep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) still thinks that Alley Oop is nonfiction…
July 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pmOK, by this guy’s very unscientific approach to data, since he is one guy who released an anti-climate control press statement that has already been disagreed with in writing by at least 12 people here at TP then our position wins. What this guy fails to add into the factual mix is quality of the data. A rat that pushes the “1″ on a keyboard in response to a math question isn’t equivalent to PhD in mathematics doing so. And the quality data belongs to the climate control people.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pmNone taken, I am just ashamed that I get lumped in with these lugs by the beltway media crowd too often. People like this make me feel as bad as my buddy does down in Tulsa everytime Inhofe or Coburn open their mouths…
July 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pmAfter sticking us Americans with eight long wretched years of torture, treason and tyranny under the Bush-Republican gangster regime, Republicans in 2009 are at loose ends; all they can seem to do is be obstructionist and continue their lies and stupidity… Heck of a job, morons.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pmThis guy represents the area west of St. Louis to Columbia (which is where the main campus of the University of Missouri is located) north to the Iowa border.
It’s that great combination of rural stupidity and suburbanites that are afraid of darker skin that this guy is representing.
Also, the coal industry is very big in the state of Mizzery, so they have a lock on the politicians. Remember the thread about Clair McCaskill (D-MO). Even the Democrats in this state aren’t immune to the money coal interests represent.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pmThe GOP: political party or mental illness?
July 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pmIs this a picture of Claire McKaskill’s boy toy? They both share ignorance and denial and just maybe the want it hotter so they don’t need so many covers to hide their real motives. Missouri is the show me state so I guess the pols there are waiting to be shown how backward they are. A joke often repeated in Iowa is that If Iowans ceded their southernmost tier of counties to Missouri it would raise the IQ of both states by 30 points. Sad, but true, the state should be renamed Misery and reminded constantly that it still remains part of the Confederacy.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:39 pmI know, angle, breaking news does not matter with you, but it does to others.
If your little mind can’t handle more than one idea in a thread at time, please feel free to scroll by – it doesn’t matter to me.
There are many that click through on links to breaking stories.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:39 pmHere’s a story for the pray-it-away, anti-science crowd:
If there is a God, He made man to think. He created the scientific mind, which has brought us medical miracles, techonological advances, and now the ability to see the real changes in our planet’s atmosphere.
To discount science is to discount God.
Here endeth the lesson.
PEACE
July 10th, 2009 at 3:40 pmDaggummit. Only time someone from Missoura gits noticed is when they open their pie hole and spit out foolishness.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:40 pmgood post, mom – the wingnuts would rather be the ultimate authority on what God stands for, what he/she wants, and how to live in harmony with the world.
When God works through others, it really pisses them off.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:43 pmPretty much RollaMO, pretty much.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pmRollaMO Says:
Daggummit. Only time someone from Missoura gits noticed is when they open their pie hole and spit out foolishness.
Last time I can think of a MO politician actually doing something right was Harry Truman. Even then, he left office with very low approval ratings. It was only later that historians realized his impact on the US.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pmWould anyone consider it “off topic” to post a link about the history of pantyhose?
July 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
uMMM.. Joe? Yes.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pmlinkwray,
Claire, however, was a much better choice than Talent.
Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
Unfortunately, if one has to move to Mizzery it’s as if one is moving into the Dark Ages. One undergoes culture shock.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pmEvery time someone applies the Scientific Method to an issue, they can call themselves a “scientist”.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWhen they DON’T apply the Scientific Method to an issue, they can’t.
“Most scientists identify as Democrats (55%), while 32% identify as independents and just 6% say they are Republicans.”
http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1549
I wish we would stop wasting tax dollars on junk politicians!
July 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pmEvangelicalism is the fastest growing mental illness in this nation.
Millions are infected, including that clown from Missouri.
The repiggies truly are the Party of Stupid.
You just can’t fix Stupid.
It is.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pmLuetkemeyer, get thee to MIT!
July 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pmRichard, is MIT the Missouri Institute of Theology?
July 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pmThe most famous or infamous, depending on how close to Missouri one finds themselves, is not Truman but Jesse James. He represents what is most apparent about Mizzou– a gang of bankrobbing, murdering thieves who justified their actions by selling their fellow idiots the phony bill of goods they were just fightin’ “big govement”. The second most infamous group from ” jus show me the lynchin tree” state were the Cantrill Raiders. Another bunch of murdering crooks turned into heroes by the state of Misery.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pmThis proves that no matter how much money the US spends on education, we still have way too many stupid people. Makes me wonder how these people got elected.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pm14 Billion years ago something happened that caused our space time dimension to be not only created, but to expand. Over billions of years interstellar nurseries spit out newborn stars into the cosmos, and planets and solar systems were formed as the universe expanded at the speed of light, over billions and billions of years. After 10 billion years, our solar system formed and in it, the planets. And over 4 billion years, one, single, solitary planet formed an atmosphere that was sufficient to produce temperate climates, and life.
If we could travel at the speed of light, 186,000 miles a second, or roughly 6 Trillion miles per year, it would take us one hundred thousand years, just to exit our own Galaxy.
To reach the edge of the known universe? It would take literally billions of years. At the speed of light. And of course given the universe is expanding at the speed of light, once we got there, the time it took to cover the distance would have been added to our journey, thus if it took 14 billion years to reach the edge of the known universe, once we got there we’d find that the universe had expanded another 14 billion lightyears in size, meaning we’d have another 14 billion years of travel at the speed of light, just to reach the edge, which of course once we got there would have expanded another 14 billion lightyears. Meaning that even if we could reach the speed of light, we could never reach the edge of our known universe.
Ever.
When one contemplates these vast impossible distances of space time, the cold, blackness of lifeless space, and the billions of dead worlds which we observe in our study of it, the image of this one, lone, bright shining life filled blue marble, traveling in perfect tedious orbit around a small yellow dwarf star, the only one ever known of in all recorded history, we know that this is precious. We can’t help but marvel at the impossible odds of our planet even being here, much less the tentative nature of our tediously balanced existence. The Ozone, our atmosphere, all tied to a chorus of flora and fauna that both relies on it and helps to produce it, all so incredible, and so important to our existence, and too precious to be squandered by us for a few dollars here and there.
Once we recognize the nature of our own, tentative existence, and the incredible rarity of it in the vast distances of a cosmos we cannot think of traversing, then we must realize how precious it is. Thus anyone not taking things that affect our precious, life giving atmosphere and the cooling system that allows us to exist, on this tiny, bright blue marble floating endlessly in a cosmic sea so vast that no shore has ever been seen, is fooling themselves. They see the earth as so permanent, but in the cosmic scale, it’s not.
Its time to stop letting politicians make decisions on science, that can only be made by scientists.
The scientists can tell us what to do.
The trick is compelling our congress to listen.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:07 pm“my goal is to deliver some of our people’s hard-earned money back into their pocketbooks instead of spending it on international junk science.”
Or, to the rest of us, just plain “science”.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:11 pmmuy rosada Says:
linkwray,
Claire, however, was a much better choice than Talent.
Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
Unfortunately, if one has to move to Mizzery it’s as if one is moving into the Dark Ages. One undergoes culture shock.
I was born and raised in Mizzery and left to take a job in Pennsylvania. I didn’t notice much difference between the two states, even after I moved back to Mizzery 8 years later.
I then moved to Los Angeles for 5 years. When I moved back, wow did I see a HUGE difference. The people here in Mizzery just don’t seem to be able to think about how they interact with the rest of the world. It is all about god, guns, and beer (though I do have a bit of a taste for Boulevard Beer).
The most progressive politician has their minds in the 1950’s if they are lucky. I can’t wait for the economy to pick up so I can get out of this miserable state and move somewhere with some intelligence.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSome of those “700 scientists” are actually weathermen. Some are economists Some claim that they never signed the letter. Very few of these “scientists” have any environmental credentials at all. In fact, most of the scientists in the 255 page report do not dispute the existence of man-made global warming. I guess the GOP figured that nobody would bother to actually read this thing.
A humorous approach: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve
July 10th, 2009 at 4:15 pmIt’s time for our government to empower a scientific body, and compel other branches of the government to abide by their findings. Science after all is best left to scientists.
It’s time to stop letting undereducated people like Blaine Luetkemeyer, make decisions about science.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pmpags2 Says:
This proves that no matter how much money the US spends on education, we still have way too many stupid people. Makes me wonder how these people got elected.
I theeeeeenk you answered yourself there.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pmLefty Liberal,
July 10th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWhen I noted culture shock, I wasn’t exaggerating. MO was an extreme shock to the intelligence.
The way the church controls things in Mo makes one feel as if one is literally in the dark ages.
This kind of isolationist thinking is not uncommon in this part of the country. Since childhood I’ve seen handmade billboards in fields along the highway in OK, ARK, and MO that said “GET THE U.S. OUT OF THE U.N.!
I never understood whether it was money, politics, or just country people that want to keep the rest of the world (especially the non-christians) far, far away.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pmmuy rosada Says:
The way the church controls things in Mo makes one feel as if one is literally in the dark ages.
What is surprising is that a former Mayor of Kansas City, and now Congressman from the Fifth district is actually pretty progressive. Why that is surprising is that he is a Baptist Minister.
Go to his official web site and you will see links to Global Warming issues, energy savings, recycling and other environmental issues. Why he doesn’t get any press is beyond me, and idiots like Blaine Luetkemeyer, Sam Graves and others do.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pmRUCeriousMaggot! #22
I thought he learned about man and dinosaurs from Peabody and Sherman.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pmThere have been times in the history of humanity when the best minds have been ignored or even persecuted. Those periods are called “Dark Ages”.
The Euro centric Western World tends to only count a single dark age in Europe but, there have been many. Any time that those who dare to think new thoughts are silenced, every fall of a great and enlightened empire, every time intellectuals are purged by despots afraid of those smarter than themselves, is a dark age.
One could make a case that our country began a dark age the moment the “Moral Majority” became a political force. Since that moment we have seen a systematic effort to deny science and reality itself. Millions are convinced that the Buy-bull, of which they seem to be mostly ignorant, is a history and scientific tome rolled into one. It is neither.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:31 pmAsk most middle class Americans how important it is that America stay technologically dominant and they’ll make it a #1 priority. Our postwar mythology involves Big Military, Big Capitalism, and Big Science. We’re still the America of the Space Race, and the America was scared to death of the Japanese getting ahead of us. (Remember Fifth-Generation Computing? Ooooh, scary!)
That’s why this is such a disaster for the Republicans. We can talk about God all we want, but the spectacle of the US as a scientific backwater is as convincing a horror story of the decline of America as you can get for most people.
And we’re already at the point that world-class scientists are refusing to take positions in America because of the yawping of these anti-science yahoos. (That, and our awful healthcare. It’s reversed quite a bit because of Obama, but it’s still there.
God bless Al Gore fore forcing this issue. If not for him, they would just try to gut these programs, but thanks to him, they’ve come out snarling against the world scientific community. A wonderful piece of political aikido that’s destroying the Republican Party.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:34 pmThat’s exactly what it is Pete.
Our own little “dark age”.
Courtesy of the neoconservative Christian “right”.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:34 pmI was born and raised in MO. And I can tell you that this man represents the norm, and not the exception. The politicians who represent this backward state are nearly all like him. I give you Ashcroft, Kit Bond etc.
They embrace fundamentalism,and creationism. There is no science they will not refute. The people are wonderful, but they seem to prefer their politics and beliefs on the anti-intellectual side. I know it does not seem possible to have wonderful people with the ability to elect knuckle draggers but they are.
This idiot is just another example of why MO is so low regarding the numbers of all kinds.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:46 pmYes, curious, there are many wonderful, kind people in MO,
July 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pmbut they just don’t seem to be capable of thinking on their own.
I declare the GOP brain free.
July 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pmThe GOP isn’t totally brain free. They know how to get “objective” flyers into church lobbies that compare the candidates stances. The flyers don’t endorse any candidate, but the church really lets them know which are the god approved stances.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:11 pmThe amount of chicken houses in this part of MO,ARK,OK has increased so much in the past decade it has become a serious environmental issue for our water supply in OK.
The nitrogen from the chicken poop gets into the creeks and ground water that flow into the reservoirs and lakes. This acts as fertilizer to algea and other aquatic plants which totally screws up the eco-system and the water quality. The chicken farmers don’t give a poop.
So please boycott Tyson!
July 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pmBetter yet, boycott all meat.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pmnellre Says:
I declare the GOP brain free.
I wouldn’t say they are quite “brain free”. But? They are logically challenged and they use their brains in an odd way. It seems to me that they don’t think. They scheme.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pmI think it’s just lazyness and lack of creative thinking.
That 700 scientist crap is Inhofe’s retoric, and I’m sure he didn’t come up with it.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pmMaybe the 700 scientists are petroleum engineers!
July 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pmJunk science = scientists that don’t take corporate $$ to try to prove right-wing talking points. Gimme junk science any day of the week …
July 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm#64 — Pete you’re correct. However, in most of us, the size of the mammalian brain is larger than the reptilian. In the case of the right wing religious wackjobs and the Republicons, the reptilian brain completely overwhelms the mammalian.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:46 pmIt is too ironical and too hypocritical to hear any Republicon talking about anyone spending OUR money irresponsibly or recklessly.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pmMaybe those 700 engineers are looking for jobs. who would have ever thought there would be a shortage of engineering jobs?
July 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pmLeutkemeyer & those Repubs like him are one of the main reasons the rest of the world shakes its head in disbelief at the ignorance & stupidity of the U.S. And it’s not because there aren’t many worthy Americans that are informed, it’s because jerks like Leutkemeyer & those Repubs like him keep spewing their stupid, lying comments, & the whole world hears them. They continue to try to diminish any gains Obama makes on the global front.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pmI love their list of “700 independent scientists”. The ones that I’ve actually looked into are without exception energy industry employees, and/or religious nuts, and/or GOoPers.
The fact is that no scientific body of national, or international, standing is still debating the validity of anthropogenic climate change.
There’s plenty of debate about how bad it will get and what can be done about it but, it’s far past time to stop claiming there isn’t a problem and get about the business of solving it.
I also have a special message for the kooks who say that God is too big for Man to have any effect on “His Creation”:
We have solved “God’s problems” before. We’ve wiped out smallpox. We’ve all but wiped out polio and many lesser diseases. We’ve managed to find ways to feed a population undreamed of by the first farmers. We’ve, largely, restored the Great Lakes from cesspools to healthy fisheries. We’ve brought back the Bald Eagle, our Nation’s Symbol, from the endangered list (simply by banning DDT). We’re even making some progress in restoring wild lands and making our suburbs, if not cities, less taxing on the environment. I think that human ingenuity is up to the challenge IF we stop letting stupid people block action.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pmI’m a Missouri boy and remember being told that the diversity of resources, natural and agricultural, within the state would all building a wall around the state as it could be fully self-sustaining. The time seems right to do it… now that I’m out.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pmRep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) says, “Folks in Missouri and across the country are tired of this never ending government spending spree, and my goal is to deliver some of our people’s hard-earned money back into their pocketbooks.”
What Luetkemeyer really means is that he wants to continue the Bush/Cheney tax cuts for billionaires and trillionaires; the people he calls “just plain folks”.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm26. Lefty Liberal,
A little more detail. Lutkemeyer, Blunt In TP today for saying Medicare should never have been) and Blunt’s Brother have Missouri is a Bush Lockstep. The district includes the very progressive Columbia / Jefferson City, MO and dilutes it with the massively rural, conservative northern MO (dare I say Gerrymander ?)
Living in rural, northern MO, you are far enough separated from the urban areas that they seem to be a distant image that doesn’t penetrate your daily life.
This has been enhanced in the last year or so as the Urban Papers (such as St. Louis) have pulled back from having subscriptions outside of their immediate area.
July 10th, 2009 at 6:59 pmWell, it IS junk science. Some of these wacko’s actually think the earth is over 6 thousand years old. If they want to be credible, then they need to accept the facts as God’s book tells them.
July 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pmThere seem to be a lot of opinions here, knocking Missouri. I would like to point out that there are some good things about the Show-Me State. 1. Mark Twain. 2. Budweiser Beer. 3. St. Louis Cardinals. 4. The citizens of Missouri elected a dead man over John Ashcroft.
Evidently, they aren’t totally brain-dead.
July 10th, 2009 at 7:46 pmI can recall a reader poll in New scientist magazine a while back that asked what they considered the worst jobs in America
The winning answer; Science teacher in Kansas.
July 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pmOnly the Bible doesn’t say the earth is 6000 years old.
July 10th, 2009 at 9:52 pmEven Mark Twain moved out of MO as soon as he could.
July 10th, 2009 at 10:05 pmcheck it out LOL
How to Argue With a Global Warming Denier
July 11th, 2009 at 12:22 amAn additional rider was attached to the bill to reaffirm that the earth is indeed flat.
July 11th, 2009 at 7:58 amShorter Leutkemeyer:
July 11th, 2009 at 12:47 pmIt’s cold today, therefore the planet couldn’t possibly be warming.
CT 76- assuming you’re not snarking about the age of the Earth:
July 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWho says it’s “God’s Book”
I think being stupid is another name for being a republican.
After all, their bible schools teaches them nothing but superstitious, supernatural nonsense. Add that to the lead in the drinking water, and their inbreeding with their hillbilly cousins or half sisters and you have an ongoing genetic problem what not even stem cell research is gonna cure.
As one anonymous individual said: “Republicans are like that, they have big mouths but there is nothing behind it.”
And to think that Americans suffered for eight whole years under these bordering on insanity idiots!
July 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pmI was born and raised in Pennsylvania. I came to Missouri for my PhD. I thought it was the old South. I moved away, then recently returned and it is as bad, if not worse, than ever. The caliber of politician here has to near that of Alaska. A state rep thinks feeding poor children is bad because hunger is a great motivator. Of course this ass wipe Luetkemeyer hates science just like the rest of the gNOp. to paraphrase Eric Burdon, I got to get out of this mid-west!!
July 11th, 2009 at 9:05 pmI come here to read the posts by the supposed “enlightened, tolerant” left. Because they give me a good laugh! My god you people are stupid. But then you already know that and try to cover up your ineptness with sarcasm. Wait, I take that back, you really don’t know it. The good thing is midterm elections are getting closer by the day. Anyone remember 1994?
July 12th, 2009 at 12:16 amjust the facts Says:
Did you just drop by to show us what an ignorant unrepentant moron you are? You know you are stupid right? Like most of the conservative trolls that drop by you are too stupid to even know what we are talking about. Logic, facts, reality. All that goes right over your empty useless head. Just STFU. You are way too much of a moron to actually contribute here
July 12th, 2009 at 1:49 amEighth coolest June in history, Chicago had record low last month, where’s the “warming”?
July 12th, 2009 at 10:39 amPopatop: where’s the “warming”? Vegas, it’s extra hot this year. Of course if you had read something about climate change, you’d know that while the globe is heating, different places can have cooler weather.
From RealCimate.com West Antarctica is warming quite strongly and that even Antarctica as a whole is warming since 1957 and they go on to point out that because of the effects of aerosols, the eastern part of the continent is cooling. You should go there, and then find the links to the starting points.
But then, you’re likely to think that since you aren’t flying off into space what’s with this idea of rotation about the axis?
July 12th, 2009 at 11:35 amThere aint no need for sience. If they wuld just teach the good book in schuls then we wount be in the mess we are. The earth aint hot, its cold. It rains all the dang time and that cools thing down so don’t lisen to the left coast babbles. If they took the money and puts it in the oil wells we would have lots more oil and no muslems wanten to kill all of us. They need to quit wasting out time with this sience stuff that just gets jobs for sientiests and then they come out and spred a bunc of lies. You left winger are just looney tunes. Get a live.
July 12th, 2009 at 1:16 pm#80
Mark Twain was so sick of the hillbillyism he didn’t just moved out of Missouri, he moved out of the country and went to live in France. He must have hated the ignorance and arrogance surrounding him or what it represented so much that he even put on for the record for future generation warning us of the like of the Blain Luctkemeyer’s of today.
Here is one of them:
“it was wonderful to find America, but it would have been more wonderful to miss it.”
Humm..I wonder if he was referring to Missouri.
July 12th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThank You..
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