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	<title>Comments on: GOP Responds To Cheney&#8217;s Concealment Of CIA Program With Strawmen And Shrugged Shoulders</title>
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		<title>By: upright left</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5723495</link>
		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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KayInMaine says: 

After 8 years of the Bush Regime, I&#039;ve welcomed the 6 months of President Obama. I haven&#039;t agreed with everything he&#039;s done, but to fall into the right wing paranoia that President Obama is the worst president in the history of America is getting very tiring. You all look like a bunch of fools at times. 

July 13th, 2009 at 8:08 am 
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Wow, when did AJ and Hanshiro say that about Obama?  The only comments I&#039;ve ever seen them post against him were pointing out when he had gone against something he had said or implied that he would do.  I got the impression that they are quite happy that Obama was elected, but refuse to quietly accept actions that are similar to, or protect, the Bush administration.</description>
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KayInMaine says: </p>
<p>After 8 years of the Bush Regime, I&#8217;ve welcomed the 6 months of President Obama. I haven&#8217;t agreed with everything he&#8217;s done, but to fall into the right wing paranoia that President Obama is the worst president in the history of America is getting very tiring. You all look like a bunch of fools at times. </p>
<p>July 13th, 2009 at 8:08 am<br />
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<p>Wow, when did AJ and Hanshiro say that about Obama?  The only comments I&#8217;ve ever seen them post against him were pointing out when he had gone against something he had said or implied that he would do.  I got the impression that they are quite happy that Obama was elected, but refuse to quietly accept actions that are similar to, or protect, the Bush administration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5723495', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Foxtrottango2</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722798</link>
		<dc:creator>Foxtrottango2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA republican party is a disease.  The GOP is a Demon created by Satan.  Conservatism is a curse from the Dark Ages.  Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Oreilly, Beck, hannity are demons that surfaced from the ashes of the Dark Ages.

As long as the Republicans have a say so in America, the nation will continue be dragged into the pitholes of Hell.

Other than that, have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA republican party is a disease.  The GOP is a Demon created by Satan.  Conservatism is a curse from the Dark Ages.  Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Oreilly, Beck, hannity are demons that surfaced from the ashes of the Dark Ages.</p>
<p>As long as the Republicans have a say so in America, the nation will continue be dragged into the pitholes of Hell.</p>
<p>Other than that, have a nice day.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722798', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderators:
Please kill this thread.
By now, we know AJ and Hanshiro are on an ego trip.
tony and lido</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderators:<br />
Please kill this thread.<br />
By now, we know AJ and Hanshiro are on an ego trip.<br />
tony and lido<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722509', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Squad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722506</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Squad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, he obviously does not know what disingenuous means anyway. What really toasts me is that hanshiro and AJ (who I suspect are the same burgeoning troll) always want links, EXCEPT when they are requested of them. Day before yesterday, for example, AJ got busted on a serious factual error on his claim about a coal disaster that happened under Bush, but when asked for a link his only response was &quot;I&#039;m not your monkey.&quot; 
This is exactly why there is a kid&#039;s table at Thanksgiving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, he obviously does not know what disingenuous means anyway. What really toasts me is that hanshiro and AJ (who I suspect are the same burgeoning troll) always want links, EXCEPT when they are requested of them. Day before yesterday, for example, AJ got busted on a serious factual error on his claim about a coal disaster that happened under Bush, but when asked for a link his only response was &#8220;I&#8217;m not your monkey.&#8221;<br />
This is exactly why there is a kid&#8217;s table at Thanksgiving&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722506', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722499</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanshiro, I think one must be able to recognize that your desire to highlight Obama&#039;s &quot;bushlike behavior&quot; is  by this time a separate issue. It&#039;s been explained to you numerous times that AJ&#039;s willingness to criticize Obama is not the issue, but (speaking of straw men) you still insist that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanshiro, I think one must be able to recognize that your desire to highlight Obama&#8217;s &#8220;bushlike behavior&#8221; is  by this time a separate issue. It&#8217;s been explained to you numerous times that AJ&#8217;s willingness to criticize Obama is not the issue, but (speaking of straw men) you still insist that it is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722499', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722497</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For that matter, how is calling me &quot;disingenuous&quot; not an &lt;em&gt;ad hom&lt;/em&gt;, by your standards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that matter, how is calling me &#8220;disingenuous&#8221; not an <em>ad hom</em>, by your standards?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722497', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro the antlion</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722488</link>
		<dc:creator>hanshiro the antlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s bushlike behavior is cast aside in favor of belaboring in republican style rationale and fallacies.

I&#039;ll start: Please explain why Obama leading the vote for telecom immunity is being a &#039;chessmaster.&#039;

Oh and why is &#039;preventative detention&#039; not entirely a scumbag bush move?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s bushlike behavior is cast aside in favor of belaboring in republican style rationale and fallacies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start: Please explain why Obama leading the vote for telecom immunity is being a &#8216;chessmaster.&#8217;</p>
<p>Oh and why is &#8216;preventative detention&#8217; not entirely a scumbag bush move?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722488', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanshiro, can you explain how complaining about the annoying, repetitive nature of AJ&#039;s posts is &quot;ad hom&quot; but calling the list &quot;childish&quot; isn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanshiro, can you explain how complaining about the annoying, repetitive nature of AJ&#8217;s posts is &#8220;ad hom&#8221; but calling the list &#8220;childish&#8221; isn&#8217;t?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722473', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722467</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hanshiro the antlion Says:
&lt;em&gt;646. ralph the wonder locust Says:
Yeah, well maybe.&lt;/em&gt;

No &quot;maybe&quot; and no &quot;buts;&quot; it was childish.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My mistake. I didn&#039;t realize that you were the arbiter of all acceptable opinion here on TP. As you can see, I&#039;m trying to judge these things from the standards you propose. Now that I understand that your opinion is the final word, that will make it easier.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;But when dozens of regulars (&quot;Zoo buddies&quot; if you prefer -- no ad hom there)&lt;/em&gt;

Ralph, this is not the first time you&#039;ve distorted what I&#039;ve said to erect a strawman. You&#039;re disingenuous. I never, ever said dozens of regulars were &#039;zoo buddies&#039; and again, you fabricate an insult never advanced, attribute it to me, and proceed to impugn.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pardon me, I understood you to be using &quot;Zoo buddies&quot; as a euphemism for those of us who think AJ is a nuisance, regardless of whether or not we frequent the Zoo. Am I a &quot;Zoo buddy&quot;?

But I&#039;m not being disingenuous at all. I really thought that was your use of the term &quot;Zoo buddies&quot;. After all, you insisted spencers mom is one, even after she pointed out that her first visit to Zooey&#039;s site was very recently. Thus I figured &quot;Zoo buddies&quot; was not strictly literal and could be fairly applied rather broadly.

&lt;em&gt;And still, you&#039;ve successfully avoided Obama&#039;s bushlike behavior.
Again.&lt;/em&gt;

Um... Obama&#039;s &quot;bushlike behavior&quot; wasn&#039;t the point of my comment. And I think you know that.

But I see you&#039;ve successfully avoided the &quot;ad hom&quot; implications of &quot;Zoo buddies&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hanshiro the antlion Says:<br />
<em>646. ralph the wonder locust Says:<br />
Yeah, well maybe.</em></p>
<p>No &#8220;maybe&#8221; and no &#8220;buts;&#8221; it was childish.</p></blockquote>
<p>My mistake. I didn&#8217;t realize that you were the arbiter of all acceptable opinion here on TP. As you can see, I&#8217;m trying to judge these things from the standards you propose. Now that I understand that your opinion is the final word, that will make it easier.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>But when dozens of regulars (&#8221;Zoo buddies&#8221; if you prefer &#8212; no ad hom there)</em></p>
<p>Ralph, this is not the first time you&#8217;ve distorted what I&#8217;ve said to erect a strawman. You&#8217;re disingenuous. I never, ever said dozens of regulars were &#8216;zoo buddies&#8217; and again, you fabricate an insult never advanced, attribute it to me, and proceed to impugn.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pardon me, I understood you to be using &#8220;Zoo buddies&#8221; as a euphemism for those of us who think AJ is a nuisance, regardless of whether or not we frequent the Zoo. Am I a &#8220;Zoo buddy&#8221;?</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not being disingenuous at all. I really thought that was your use of the term &#8220;Zoo buddies&#8221;. After all, you insisted spencers mom is one, even after she pointed out that her first visit to Zooey&#8217;s site was very recently. Thus I figured &#8220;Zoo buddies&#8221; was not strictly literal and could be fairly applied rather broadly.</p>
<p><em>And still, you&#8217;ve successfully avoided Obama&#8217;s bushlike behavior.<br />
Again.</em></p>
<p>Um&#8230; Obama&#8217;s &#8220;bushlike behavior&#8221; wasn&#8217;t the point of my comment. And I think you know that.</p>
<p>But I see you&#8217;ve successfully avoided the &#8220;ad hom&#8221; implications of &#8220;Zoo buddies&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722467', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pachydiplax de St. Augustine</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722461</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachydiplax de St. Augustine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanshiro you&#039;re confusing me. 

What tactic was childish, creating the list or your calling it a &quot;middle school&quot; antic?

Are you next saying that posters here derided Nixon and Goldberg when they made lists of enemies or comparing posters here to Nixon and Goldberg? Of course since TP wasn&#039;t around during Nixon&#039;s term it must be the later, isn&#039;t it.

I sometimes think the words you type may not be the words you meant to type, unless I&#039;m taking them out of context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanshiro you&#8217;re confusing me. </p>
<p>What tactic was childish, creating the list or your calling it a &#8220;middle school&#8221; antic?</p>
<p>Are you next saying that posters here derided Nixon and Goldberg when they made lists of enemies or comparing posters here to Nixon and Goldberg? Of course since TP wasn&#8217;t around during Nixon&#8217;s term it must be the later, isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>I sometimes think the words you type may not be the words you meant to type, unless I&#8217;m taking them out of context.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722461', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro the antlion</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro the antlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;652. RantingTommy Says: hanshiro thinks only he and AJ should get to bully TP about what topics TP posts about&lt;/em&gt;

You can bully TP all you want, just lay off the ad homs about the posters. Better yet, challenge their points with sourced and credible information.

Try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>652. RantingTommy Says: hanshiro thinks only he and AJ should get to bully TP about what topics TP posts about</em></p>
<p>You can bully TP all you want, just lay off the ad homs about the posters. Better yet, challenge their points with sourced and credible information.</p>
<p>Try it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722458', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RantingTommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>RantingTommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanshiro thinks only he and AJ should get to bully TP about what topics TP posts about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanshiro thinks only he and AJ should get to bully TP about what topics TP posts about<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722444', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro the antlion</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro the antlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;646. ralph the wonder locust Says:

    hanshiro the antlion Says:
    
&lt;blockquote&gt;641.spencers mom Says: hanshiro, in all fairness, the AJ problem started weeks ago, if I recall correctly. There was even a list of regular posters who asked AJ to please stay on topic and stop hijacking threads.

    Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, well maybe. 
&lt;/em&gt;

No &quot;maybe&quot; and no &quot;buts;&quot; it was childish.

&lt;em&gt;But when dozens of regulars (&quot;Zoo buddies&quot; if you prefer -- no ad hom there)&lt;/em&gt; 

Ralph, this is not the first time you&#039;ve distorted what I&#039;ve said to erect a strawman. You&#039;re disingenuous. I never, ever said dozens of regulars were &#039;zoo buddies&#039; and again, you fabricate an insult never advanced, attribute it to me, and proceed to impugn.

And still, you&#039;ve successfully avoided Obama&#039;s bushlike behavior.

Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>646. ralph the wonder locust Says:</p>
<p>    hanshiro the antlion Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>641.spencers mom Says: hanshiro, in all fairness, the AJ problem started weeks ago, if I recall correctly. There was even a list of regular posters who asked AJ to please stay on topic and stop hijacking threads.</p>
<p>    Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, well maybe.<br />
</em></p>
<p>No &#8220;maybe&#8221; and no &#8220;buts;&#8221; it was childish.</p>
<p><em>But when dozens of regulars (&#8221;Zoo buddies&#8221; if you prefer &#8212; no ad hom there)</em> </p>
<p>Ralph, this is not the first time you&#8217;ve distorted what I&#8217;ve said to erect a strawman. You&#8217;re disingenuous. I never, ever said dozens of regulars were &#8216;zoo buddies&#8217; and again, you fabricate an insult never advanced, attribute it to me, and proceed to impugn.</p>
<p>And still, you&#8217;ve successfully avoided Obama&#8217;s bushlike behavior.</p>
<p>Again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722440', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: fletc3her</title>
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		<dc:creator>fletc3her</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding record?!  LOL

One thing that remains true, you fail up in the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding record?!  LOL</p>
<p>One thing that remains true, you fail up in the GOP.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722441', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. So the blog version of a grass-roots petition is now the equivalent of a secret &quot;enemies list&quot; kept by a single paranoid power figure?

Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. So the blog version of a grass-roots petition is now the equivalent of a secret &#8220;enemies list&#8221; kept by a single paranoid power figure?</p>
<p>Interesting.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722438', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722436</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jail him before his heart stops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jail him before his heart stops.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722436', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro the antlion</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-14/#comment-5722426</link>
		<dc:creator>hanshiro the antlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says: hanshiro, can you explain how your statement &quot;Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&quot; is not an attack on the posters?&lt;/em&gt;

The tactic &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; childish. As forming &#039;enemies lists&#039; was derided many, many times here when Nixon and Bernard Goldberg had done it, so is avoiding tackling issues by a less-than-effective game of bullying.

It is just that. Bullying by regulars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says: hanshiro, can you explain how your statement &#8220;Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&#8221; is not an attack on the posters?</em></p>
<p>The tactic <em>was</em> childish. As forming &#8216;enemies lists&#8217; was derided many, many times here when Nixon and Bernard Goldberg had done it, so is avoiding tackling issues by a less-than-effective game of bullying.</p>
<p>It is just that. Bullying by regulars.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722426', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-13/#comment-5722423</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hanshiro the antlion Says:
&lt;em&gt;641.spencers mom Says: hanshiro, in all fairness, the AJ problem started weeks ago, if I recall correctly. There was even a list of regular posters who asked AJ to please stay on topic and stop hijacking threads.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, well maybe. But when dozens of regulars (&quot;Zoo buddies&quot; if you prefer -- no ad hom there) kept telling AJ that he was disrupting the threads and annoying people, and he kept insisting, like you, that it was just a tiny clique, a comprehensive list seemed the most effective way to dispel that little bit of denial.

Childish? Maybe. But no more childish than AJ.</description>
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<em>641.spencers mom Says: hanshiro, in all fairness, the AJ problem started weeks ago, if I recall correctly. There was even a list of regular posters who asked AJ to please stay on topic and stop hijacking threads.</em></p>
<p>Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, well maybe. But when dozens of regulars (&#8221;Zoo buddies&#8221; if you prefer &#8212; no ad hom there) kept telling AJ that he was disrupting the threads and annoying people, and he kept insisting, like you, that it was just a tiny clique, a comprehensive list seemed the most effective way to dispel that little bit of denial.</p>
<p>Childish? Maybe. But no more childish than AJ.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722423', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-13/#comment-5722421</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Still at it.

How exactly is &quot;zoo buddies&quot; not an &quot;ad hom&quot; by hanshiro&#039;s standards? Or is it okay when he does it? Maybe that&#039;s it.

I think I have left a single comment at the Zoo, and that was about a year and a half ago.

Tommy, don&#039;t bother pointing out yet again that the reason AJ draws so much ire is because of the way he deals with TP threads he doesn&#039;t like, and not because he posts opinions some people disagree with. Apparently, that point is always made at a frequency some folks can&#039;t hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Still at it.</p>
<p>How exactly is &#8220;zoo buddies&#8221; not an &#8220;ad hom&#8221; by hanshiro&#8217;s standards? Or is it okay when he does it? Maybe that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>I think I have left a single comment at the Zoo, and that was about a year and a half ago.</p>
<p>Tommy, don&#8217;t bother pointing out yet again that the reason AJ draws so much ire is because of the way he deals with TP threads he doesn&#8217;t like, and not because he posts opinions some people disagree with. Apparently, that point is always made at a frequency some folks can&#8217;t hear.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722421', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pachydiplax de St. Augustine</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/gop-cheney-congress/comment-page-13/#comment-5722419</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachydiplax de St. Augustine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanshiro, can you explain how your statement &quot;Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&quot; is not an attack on the posters?

Of course you are always right, hanshiro, you constantly tell us that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanshiro, can you explain how your statement &#8220;Yes, I saw the middle-school list antic. Both childish and unworthy.&#8221; is not an attack on the posters?</p>
<p>Of course you are always right, hanshiro, you constantly tell us that!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5722419', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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