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Is the GOP candidate for Kansas Secretary of State an Obama birther?

kobachk The Leavenworth County Republican Party in Kansas held a BBQ on Saturday that attracted state bigwigs such as Sen. Sam Brownback and Rep. Todd Tiahrt. Also in attendance was Kris Kobach, who is running for state attorney general and revealed that he may be a birther when he talked about voter ID issues:

Kobach told the group he would fight for the requirement of providing proof of citizenship at election booths. He said photo identification is required when boarding a plane or buying certain spray paints and medication. He wants the same when trying to combat voter fraud.

A professor of law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, Kobach kept the mood light with a political joke. He asked what President Obama and God had in common, with the punchline being neither has a birth certificate.

The difference between the two? God only takes 10 percent of a person’s income, Kobach joked.

As Dave Weigel notes, Kobach is “a Marshall scholar and Yale Law grad who was chairman of the state GOP until earlier this year, is considered a frontrunner for the job with jurisdiction over elections in Kansas.” An inquiry to Kobach’s camaign on whether or not he believes President Obama is a U.S. citizen has not yet been returned.



94 Responses to “Is the GOP candidate for Kansas Secretary of State an Obama birther?”

  1. Republicans Love Facts says:

    What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?


  2. Another Joe says:

    It’s a powerful way to get attention, throwing meat to that rabid crowd.

    It’s a legitimate point of discussion, but surely there are other issues that this guy is really hanging out with the loonies.

    I will accept the birthers, they marginalize themselves. But the rest of the agenda most of the advocate for is even more nutty and deserves to be swatted down.


  3. Zooey says:

    It’s possible that Kobach could be a birther, but it’s a virtual certainty that he’s an imbecile.


  4. Republicans Love Facts says:

    world nut daily? Bwahahahahahah!


  5. Another Joe says:

    I am just grateful this crowd is arguing about Obama’s birth and no one is talking about waiving that part of the constitution so arnold “the gropenator” can run.

    He took himself right off the table with his results in CA, but there was a time when many of today’s birthers would have screamed for the gropenator!


  6. Zooey says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:

    What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?
    July 13th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Nothing. President Obama is a natural born American.

    I always ask you dimwits this question, but you never have an answer: If Barack Obama were not a natural born American, do you really think Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have exposed him?


  7. CheeseFlap says:

    Kansas was ocean
    Many fossils left behind
    Strong fins now elbows


  8. JvS says:

    No more Christian Reconstructionists !


  9. Bobwurst says:

    What do God and President Obama have in common?
    They both know kobach is beneath them.

    The difference between the two? God has no problem smiting those who bear false witness…


  10. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Dear Republicans Love Facts,
    Where’s YOUR birth certificate?
    What’s next? PAPERS PLEASE?

    hint: playing snuggle bunny with Fascist ideals leaves impressions that you like it that way…


  11. Zooey says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:

    world nut daily? Bwahahahahahah!
    July 13th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Yeah, even world nut daily has debunked the story. I would think that would be sufficient…for you.


  12. Bobwurst says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    world nut daily? Bwahahahahahah!

    Republicans Love Facts? Bwhahahahahahahaha!


  13. RantingTommy says:

    the main difference is: Obama is real, not just a character in an ancient fairy tale


  14. Bobwurst says:

    Republicans Love Farts,

    Tell you what, we’ll provide President Obama’s birth certificate, when you provide bush’s honorable discharge. OK? Until then, STFU


  15. Republicans Love Facts says:

    obama is nothing more than an empty suit.


  16. Sahu says:

    Here’s my question to the Birfers–So what, if Obama wasn’t born here. Do you people deny that his mother was an American citizen? Because last time I checked, that automatically qualified one for citizenship regardless of the location–just ask John McCain (born, Panama) or any other child of a US servicemember born while their parents were deployed.

    Oh, and, for the record it’s all academic, anyway, as he has an official birth cirtificate, the original of which the State of Hawaii confirmed was in their possession last year.

    Seriously, folks, quit listening to Hannity and Limbaugh and take the time to do a cursory Google search. Then, take a deep breath and get on with your lives.


  17. Bobwurst says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    obama is nothing more than an empty suit.

    And you’re a full condom, what’s your point?


  18. stewarjt says:

    Bircher, birther, what’s the dif?


  19. Chyron HR says:

    obama is nothing more than an empty suit.

    Yeah, that’s Obama for you. He’s an empty suit who is also turning America into a Socialist nation by being exactly the same as George W. Bush.


  20. Bobwurst says:

    Come on fart lover, show us chimpy’s honorable discharge. It doesn’t exist and you know it, You know that your hero is a deserter in time of war. he’s the only republican who is a bigger coward than you.


  21. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Dear Republicans Love Facts,
    If you wish to engage in discourse, it is always best to discuss things with substantive points and persuasive facts.

    Neither you bring…

    Operation F&F in play!


  22. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    You know, it has never been conclusively proven that Kris Kobach is not half stegosaurus. Can you just imagine what would happen if someone with a brain the size of a walnut became the Kansas Secretary of State?

    Someone from a state as fossil-laden as Kansas should be required to submit to DNA testing to prove that they are all human and not part-dinosaur. Mr. Kobach, the ball’s in your court.


  23. Zooey says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:

    obama is nothing more than an empty suit.
    July 13th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Can’t answer the question, huh?


  24. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    “What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?”

    apparently, nitwit, nothing. at least the founding fathers thought so and included that in the copnstitution. but we know a cancervative such as yourself wouldn’t know that since according to you clowns, what’s clearly stated in the constitution is negotiable.


  25. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    p.s Republicans Love Facts,
    ALWAYS FEAR the Marxist/Commie/Socialist/Fascist/Pinko Black man.


  26. Bobwurst says:

    This is the problem with republicans, they undersatnd facts and logic almost as much as they understand Klingon. And we may as well be speaking in Klingon as using facts and logic when we talk with them.


  27. winddancer says:

    It never fails to amaze me how some Republicans apparently deliberately “dumb” themselves down to earn points with the far right. This guy is a law professor, Yale graduate and Marshall Scholar. He’s not an idiot. But I presume he knows his intended audience pretty well, and certainly believes that THEY are idiots.


  28. fergus says:

    Kobach is running for Kansas State Attorney General, which would have jurisdition over Kansas elections. Has anyone checked to see how invested he is in Diebold? We wouldn’t want any hijacked elections in Oz, now, would we?


  29. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    where’d republicans love abuse go?
    is he off in the corner nursing his wounds after getting his ass handed to him by 10 different people?


  30. Mr. Cobb says:

    Where did all the nutty people come from? He’a probably a fundgelical and cheats around.


  31. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says: obama is nothing more than an empty suit.

    President Obama wasn’t the one resorting to wearing a fake codpiece.


  32. Rich H says:

    Off Topic

    I’m watching the hearings and I’m about to throw up. Look at the fine dem.s pontificate (thank god for television) about the qualities necessary to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

    All fine and dandy mind you, but where were they when Bush I and II’s picks were nominated? We could have avoided the whole Chimpy fiasco with a few good rational justices.

    Please, I think I’m going to be sick.


  33. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Are birthers also rebirthers? Does there position mean that Jesus can’t be President of the US? Good, we’ve got separation of church and state covered then, don’t we.


  34. katy says:

    … even IF he was just “playing to the crowd”, he’s disrespecting
    not just the President of the United States, but also his “crowd”,
    for presuming they were all stupid.

    i really am amazed, daily, at the ignorance and bigotry…


  35. Marie says:

    What’s the matter with Kansas?

    They produce an inordinate number of cretins, creationists, and moralistic christians who think they are superior to everyone who doesn’t meet their “standard.”
    Not unlike Texas who seems to have a similar population from which they draw their politicians.


  36. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says
    July 13th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?
    ___________________________________________________________

    Absolutely nothing. But I think the question should be — why do you believe this is a problem?



  37. Rich H says:

    I’m beginning to think a degree from Yale doesn’t mean anything.


  38. Badmoodman says:

    The difference between the two? God only takes 10 percent of a person’s income, Kobach joked.

    – - Well, “God” also likes to diddle young boys.


  39. Zooey says:

    Immigration2008DotCom Says:
    July 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    I’ll ask you the same question I asked the other troll (who has mysteriously disappeared):

    If Barack Obama were not a natural born American, do you really think Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have exposed him?


  40. Fred says:

    Immigration2008DotCom Says:

    I thought you guys were all up in the air about frivilous lawsuits. Irony and hypocricy, where would they be without each other:

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/03/05/washington/AP-Obama-Citizenship.html
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvhtmoNEnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD96O5TV03
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama’s citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court’s time and suggesting the plaintiff’s attorney may have to compensate the president’s lawyer.

    Robertson ordered plaintiff’s attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn’t violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn’t have to pay Obama’s attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.


  41. Sahu says:

    Marie @39:

    Yes, the similarities between the conservative electorates in Kansas and Texas are, lamentably, quite pronounced. But we should, in the spirit of the late Molly Ivins, make lemonade out of these Wing-nutistani lemons in our midst.

    As Ms. Ivins pointed out, Texas is actually highly useful to the nation as a whole as our “laboratory of Bad Government.” Basically, the idea is to examine the Texan (or Kansan) “solution” to a given policy problem and do as close to the exact opposite as is practicable.

    The problems occur when we forget to take the inverse of a given Texan policy or, God help us, allow them to export one of their policy-makers to the country at large (see: Bush, George W.). Then we get Bad Government for All, which tends to end up with the Country in a metaphorical ditch (see: the S&L crisis of the late 80s or, more pressingly, the US economy from 2007 to the present).


  42. pags2 says:

    I am surprised Yale hasn’t recalled his J.D. degree.


  43. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Kobach told the group he would fight for the requirement of providing proof of citizenship at election booths.
    _____________________________________________________________

    How many pieces of identification does Kobach believe should be shown at the polls? I can’t speak for what the rules are in Kansas, but here in North Carolina, every registered voter is given a voting card, which voters are expected to have with them when they go to vote. However, many voting places don’t bother asking for them, as long as the voter can rattle off their name and their address (which must match what’s on the list).

    Of course, to register to vote, whether at the DMV or any other registration place, one must prove citizenship (as well as legal age and a few other things).

    I’m not sure what Kobach is after. Does he want original copies of birth certificates or naturalization certificates? And then does he want other government-issued ID to prove that the certificates actually belong to the voter showing them? And then additional ID so we can be sure that all this ID hasn’t been forged somehow?

    My polling place is very crowded on election day, with long lines. Giving the third degree to each voter is going to slow up the process considerably.

    If there was really a fraud problem, I would be willing to put up with this. But until somebody can convince me that voter fraud is a widespread thing, I really don’t want this inconvenience.

    Oh, what’s that? The only inconvenience would be to people who look “foreign” or “of color”? Sigh. That’s still an inconvenience, and what’s more, it’s an outrage.


  44. LibertyLover says:

    He said photo identification is required when boarding a plane or buying certain spray paints and medication. He wants the same when trying to combat voter fraud.

    These are all things that have been put in place in the last 10 years or so. Maybe 15 for the Plane ID, but I’m not sure. This country has existed for over 200 years without these so-called safeguards. I actually remember being able to buy an airline ticket and getting on a plane without giving my name. Imagine that! Free travel across state borders!

    I fail to see how any of them are not “Government intruding into our lives” that Republicans rail against.

    Oh that’s right, being against Government intrusion only applies to corporations’ “rights.”

    Sometimes Progress is not Progress.


  45. okie dokie says:

    What did they barbeque at that GOP party in Kansas?

    Crosses?

    Birther. Bigot. Hate.

    Whatever.


  46. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    He should fit right in with the Oral Roberts, 6,000 year earthers.
    You know, the salt of the earth………… Morons.


  47. Fred says:

    He said photo identification is required when boarding a plane or buying certain spray paints and medication. He wants the same when trying to combat voter fraud.

    In addition to what LibertyLover said I would also ask the photo ID group “what voter fraud”? It is literally non-existant by voters at the polls. The only fraud was done mechanically by the gop.


  48. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    He said photo identification is required when boarding a plane or buying certain spray paints and medication. He wants the same when trying to combat voter fraud.

    How would this have prevented Ann Coulter from committing an election code felony?


  49. JeffCO says:

    Forget what Hillary would or would not have done. My question for the birthers remains: If Obama is not a US citizen, and this is a known and accepted fact among Republicans, why did Chief Justice John Roberts swear him in, twice? Why did Scalia, Bush, Cheney, indeed the entire GOP leadership all stand by and do nothing as this happened?

    Are they *all* in on the conspiracy?


  50. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Let’s follow this idiot’s lead to the extreme.
    All babies born in the US (except to illegal aliens, of course) should be branded with a Citizenship UPC code.

    That’ll fixit.


  51. Mr. Cobb says:

    They know it doesn’t matter whether or not. Their point is to keep harping on it to make people crazy and confuse things only because they control the “liberal” media.


  52. vinylspear says:

    “Kobach told the group he would fight for the requirement of providing proof of citizenship at election booths”.

    Election fraud by citizenry has been debunked.
    Election fraud by Diebold has been proven.


  53. Mr. Cobb says:

    Hey, I voted for him and will keep the pressure on when I think he’s wrong and I don’t care if he was born on the Moon.


  54. majii says:

    Republicans Love Facts,

    It is precisely because of people like you that racism still exists. I’m the empty suit who taught thousands of children for over 30 years. I’m the empty suit who went to and graduated from the University of Georgia based on SAT scores before it was fully integrated. I’m the empty suit who raised a child who graduated from high school and college with honors. I’m the empty suit whose parents were married for 52 years before being parted by death. I’m the empty suit who has never spent one day in jail. I’m the empty suit who moved into a neighborhood where my family was the only minority family in the neighborhood (and I still live there). I’m the empty suit who pays all of my taxes. I’m the empty suit who gives to charitable organizations. I’m the empty suit who will give you the clothes off my back if it would help you. I’m the empty suit who helps people earn post-graduate degrees for free. I’m the empty suit who believes in God, follows the law, and is highly thought of by friends, neighbors, and former colleagues. Yes, I’m that empty suit you referred to in your post, and—

    I, too, am Barck Hussein Obama


  55. misscoleopteramolly says:

    The difference between the two? God only takes 10 percent of a person’s income, Kobach joked.
    ____________________________________________________________

    But I suspect that if God needed to put together an army to go fight a senseless war, if God was really big on corporate welfare, or if God wanted to give out a lot of lucrative no-bid (and apparently no limit) contracts to His best buds, He’d be asking for a great deal more.


  56. Jackie says:

    As a real Christian I wonder what God thought of Kris Kobach’s disgraceful joke? Well at lease the GOP has a young Racist to push out to the Media. This could give Sarah a run for the White House. Kris worked with Attorney General Ashcrof and might ask him to serve again as AG. Who knows the GOP ticket could be Kobach/Cheney for 2012. Ok Sarah can be Secretary of State which is the same unqualified person name Connie Rice. Well it will be back to the 2001 – 2008 years again.


  57. FriedmanIsDead says:

    Well in case you were wondering, the only talk radio stations we have in the Kansas City area are conservative stations who’s line-up includes, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, Michael Savage and Dave Ramsey. You cannot go anywhere in the area without seeing Fixed News providing the daily info-tainment on any TV set not playing ESPN in public.

    I can quite literally see Kansas from my house and these type of people are all too common in these parts. Remember the guy who murdered Tiller lives in a KC suburb. Kansas is chock full of nutbags…


  58. Marie says:

    #48 sahu,
    Point well taken.


  59. Immigration2008DotCom says:

    Zooey: your comment has nothing to do with what I posted. Clearly, you don’t understand my argument or you didn’t bother looking. You might also find that trying to understand the different types of LogicalFallacies to be helpful.


  60. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Max Anax junius -1 Says:
    Dear Republicans Love Facts,
    Where’s YOUR birth certificate?

    You are asking the wrong question. The question should be “where is your original birth certificate”. President Obama has already shown his certificate of live birth (what the people in Hawaii get as their copy of their original birth certificate). The birthers want him to show the original of his birth certificate. They are too stupid to know that no one has the original of their birth certificates. These are retained by the states so that they can give out certified copies if asked. And, several news organizations (including a couple who are very conservative) went to Hawaii and the officials in Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii.


  61. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?

    Barack Obama is an American. Even if he had been born in Kenya (which he was not) he would still be a natural born citizen because his mother was an American citizen. Why is it that the birthers ignore that inconvenient truth?


  62. Rich H says:

    FriedmanIsDead #64,

    Amazing what KC has become. It used to be quite the hot spot for Big Bands and was fairly culturaly significant.

    Don’t feel bad though. I live in S.C. and often drive to the bay area. Between L.A. and S.F. there is nothing but right wing hate, and “burn in hell” christian radio.


  63. Jane E. Schneider says:

    majii Says:

    Hear, hear! Great post, majii!


  64. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    republicans hate facts Says:
    Republicans Love Facts Says:
    What’s wrong with asking for the potus to be an American?
    Good question. Maybe you should ask the GOP why the SELECTED Panamanian Born McCain? ;)

    An interesting factoid that is frequently missed is the fact that McCain was born BEFORE the law was passed making children of citizens automatically a citizen and THE LAW WAS NOT RETROACTIVE!


  65. Zimzone says:

    Bobwurst Says:
    This is the problem with republicans, they understand facts and logic almost as much as they understand Klingon.

    Q: What’s the difference between Starship Enterprise & toilet paper?

    A: None. They have identical missions; circle Uranus & wipe out the Klingons…
    /rimshot


  66. Zooey says:

    republicans hate facts says:

    A point we BOTH can agree on! ;)
    July 13th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    I knew we’d find something. :)


  67. Keith says:

    At one point the story says he is running for state atorney general and the headline says he is a candidate for Kansas Sec of State. These are two different offices.

    What’s with this new “vote up” and “vote down”? No, matter what you hit, it registers as “vote down”. Or is it just me?


  68. mary lacewing says:

    Keith – that was my first impression too, but it seems that the count to the right of the Vote Down is the net number of the votes up and the votes down.

    A bit misleading until you get used to it.


  69. republicanSScareme says:

    In addition to Sen. Brownback, Rep. Tiahrt, and Kris Kobach, numerous other nut-jobs were at the BBQ.


  70. Zooey says:

    Immigration2008DotCom says:

    Zooey: your comment has nothing to do with what I posted. Clearly, you don’t understand my argument or you didn’t bother looking. You might also find that trying to understand the different types of LogicalFallacies to be helpful.
    July 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    You couldn’t answer my question either, huh?

    Of course I won’t waste my time looking at your crap. The point is moot. President Obama was born in Hawaii, and that fact is settled.

    Stick that up your fallacy.


  71. JNBenson says:

    You’re missing the cheap and easy shot folks. Rebublicans Love Facts, they’re just not committed to them.


  72. Harleyrydyr says:

    One question to chiroptera toasterhead and the other cast of “SIMPLETONS” who decided to write ignorant comments about my home state of Kansas, did it make you feel better with the vile you projected from your computer about a state of people? I will not bring myself to you level argueing or even mentioning the faults of your state and the qualities of mine which I sure are many. I always deducted after fifty years of life the “right wing Christians” disgusted me worse than any liberal ever could, but after reading these comments maybe its a close race. I hope the leader of our ignorant state can do a good job in the Presidents cabinet to get health care reform done in this country, big job for a nitwit hey? And for my last word for this site let me leave a quote for all the haters that spew garbage in half the posts I have read on this site, ” I shall never permit myself to stoop so low as to hate any man” Brooker T Washington


  73. Zooey says:

    Bye, Harleyrydyr.


  74. EugeneDebs says:

    RepublicansloveSTUPIDITY

    YOU are nothing but an ignorant punkass troll


  75. Keith says:

    Is he any relation to Booker T. Washington? And has he ever been to Kansas?


  76. MapleStreet says:

    Of course, the argument of using a birth certificate only holds water when applied to those born in hospitals. While becomming increasingly common (as applied to the early 1900s), there are still a lot of folks born away from the hospital. The birth certificates are then usually issued on statements from the mother.

    Likewise, the “facts” on the birth certificates (dealing with family members, etc.) are commonly stated by individuals and not verified.


  77. Canare says:

    This site would be so much more informative if it weren’t a seething hate mongering. You all spend so much time sniping at each other than neither side really understands, or cares to understand, the other’s position.

    It is perfectly reasonable to want the President to be a proven American. After all, it is a constitutional requirement.

    With that being said, I agree with a few of the above posters that Hillary would have ferreted that out long before now.


  78. EugeneDebs says:

    immigrationNUT 41

    Please. I am begging you to do whatever it takes to get some functioning briancells. Beg, borrow, or steal them. Think for YOURSELF for the first time in your pathetic life. Obama has shown his certificate of live birth. Hawaiis state officials have told us they have personally seen his original birth certificate. The blurb in the Honolulu paper at the time of his birth ANOUNCING HIS BIRTH has been shown. Stop being an idiot. This is over. It is proven he was born in Hawaii. No amount of proof would be possible for you morons at this point. Stop parading your stupidity. Stop humiliating yourself. Stop being so brainwashed.


  79. EugeneDebs says:

    Canare

    This site would also be better if some conservatives would show up who werent so stupid and brainwashed. MORE than adequate proof Obama is a citizen has been produced. Only those COMITTED to ignoring facts and reality can dispute this. Conservatives have Ann Coulter, Micheal Savage and Rush Limbaugh spewing hatred and bile toward the left day after day and snivelling punks like YOU come in here and whine that liberals give back a little of what we have been getting for a decade or so. Go clean up YOUR side before you snivel about ours.


  80. EugeneDebs says:

    immigrationNUT 66

    The reproduced from microfilm the birth anouncement in the Honolulu newspaper from the time of his birth. What exactly MORE do you want?


  81. Canare says:

    @87 eugene debs (great name btw – first communist to get 1 million votes if memory from history serves /wink)

    The sooner we get rid of this “my side your side” mentality, the faster we will solve real problems. I work in healthcare, and I can tell you we don’t check voter registration cards in the hospital.

    Coulter, Savage, Limbaugh LOVE YOU TO DEATH – you make them money, not republicans. They love to be hated. I look at them like an interesting painting, and move on. If I want entertainment, I will turn on a talking head. Both sides thrive on the divide so well demonstrated in this forum.


  82. Canare says:

    Oh and Eugene, I think you would add a ton of credibility to your arguments if you drop the name calling =)


  83. EugeneDebs says:

    EugeneDebs was a Socialist not a communist and for most of his life a union organizer. A great orator, you should read some of his speeches. No. You are wrong. It isnt liberals that buy their books and listen to their radio shows which get them advertisers. It is the rightwing not the left that makes them money. To think otherwise is frankly delusional. I know its a well trotted out talking point but it makes no sense. Still. I spent a couple of years taking rightwing abuse while taking the high road and saw it get the left characterized as weak. So you want to have a debate or a discussion on the facts. I am there. If someone wants to take the discussion into the gutter I will follow and beat them there too. So go to Redstate and FreeRepublicansewer and read their vitriol. See what the trolls say here. Its not like the left started the flaming nor like it is our preferred venue but the days are gone when the exclusive franchise on insults and rudeness is given to conservatives and its probably something you ought to get used to. It isnt natural to spend too much time as a punching bag not natural and not healthy


  84. EugeneDebs says:

    Canare says: 90

    I dont care WHAT you think


  85. Canare says:

    #92 and #91 are conflicting posts Eugene =(


  86. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Harleyrydyr says:

    One question to chiroptera toasterhead and the other cast of “SIMPLETONS” who decided to write ignorant comments about my home state of Kansas, did it make you feel better with the vile you projected from your computer about a state of people?

    July 13th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
    _______________

    So it’s not true that Kansans are part dinosaur?

    I’d like to see some DNA evidence of that, please.


  87. EugeneDebs says:

    Canare says:

    #92 and #91 are conflicting posts Eugene =(
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No. They arent. Adult education look into it. The fact I choose to respond to a post doesnt mean I care in the LEAST what the poster thinks about how I should act. If you want to be a pious scold I suggest you get a job as a schoolmaarm. As far as I know there is no position open as piety moniter or chatroom protocol moniter or resident holier than thou bore open at TP.


  88. Canare says:

    Eugene says:

    So you want to have a debate or a discussion on the facts. I am
    there

    I don’t care WHAT you think
    ——————————————–

    I’d put my education and CV against yours any day bud. You think you can be a bully because you are surrounded by people with similar views. But argue a point for a change, not just pick a fight. Any pinhead with a mouse and keyboard can do that.


  89. Kuni says:

    Republicans love facts so much that they f#@k them over every chance they get.


  90. Canare says:

    I would settle for honest and fair exchange of ideas


  91. EugeneDebs says:

    Canare says:

    Its not my fault you are stupid. Your CLAIMS on a board dont really mean much. All I have seen from you so far is snivelling and pious scolding. I have seen you make no points nor try. I have just seen you act the moron with a chip on his shoulder. I will take you apart like a cheap watch because you just arent very bright. You like to talk tough but you dont bring it. There is very little chance you will since you are a moron. Stealing Bill O’falafels favorite pinhead insult shows just what a pathetic mentally deficient cretin you are. So you want to toss insults lets go. You want to have a discussion I will take you to school. I dont need any help. You see anyone coming to my rescue? The sun will never dawn on the day I need backup for a cretinous intellectually challenged poser like you. Dont think I didnt notice that I made several points all of which you ignored. BITE ME you ignorant punkass troll.


  92. EugeneDebs says:

    Canare says:

    I would settle for honest and fair exchange of ideas
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I would settle for you growing up you cretinous wanker


  93. Canare says:

    Sorry Eugene – until you drop the insults, I don’t think I will converse with you. You should read the rules of this site.

    As for my intellect, you have yet to respond to anything topic-oriented I post in any blog – either because you are so filled with hate or just don’t have anything constructive to add. Maybe it is because you just can’t accept the fact that someone just might have a different perspective.

    Have a great day. Maybe get some exercise and some sunshine.



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