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Liz Cheney: Investigating My Dad Would Prove Americans ‘Can’t Trust’ Democrats With National Security

Dick Cheney talks to his daughter, Liz.On Saturday, the New York Times reported that former Vice President Dick Cheney gave “direct orders” to the CIA, compelling the agency to withhold “information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years.” Despite news organizations’ efforts to contact him, Cheney has yet to comment on the revelation.

Following the revelation, congressional Democrats have called for an investigation into the hidden program, which the Wall Street Journal reports involved “an attempt to carry out a 2001 presidential authorization to capture or kill al Qaeda operatives.” But on the Washington Times’ America’s Morning News radio show today, Cheney’s daughter, Liz, lashed back at his critics:

CHENEY: There’s this big piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning that says that it was a number of different concepts for ways that we could capture or kill al Qaeda leaders in the days after 9/11. I am really surprised that the Democrats decide that that’s what they want to fight over. I mean, if they want to go to the American people and say that they disagree with the notion that we ought to be capturing and killing al Qaeda leaders, I think it’s just going to prove to the American people one more time why they can’t trust the Democrats with our national security.

Cheney claimed that complaints by Democrats that the program was concealed from Congress are surfacing only because they are “very worried about Speaker Pelosi” and the attacks on her over her claim that the CIA misled her about the Bush administration’s use of waterboarding. Listen here:

Of course, Cheney is dodging the issue of whether Bush and Cheney fulfilled their obligations under the National Security Act of 1947, which says that congressional intelligence committees must be “kept fully and currently informed of the intelligence activities of the United States, including any significant anticipated intelligence activity.”

Cheney also responded to news that Attorney General Holder is considering appointing a special prosecutor to investigate “the Bush administration’s brutal interrogation practices,” calling it “shameful.” She added that her father is “very angry” about the development:

CHENEY: His reaction to the story that we may well be prosecuting folks, I’m happy to talk about that. … You know, he is very angry, as you’ve heard him say publicly. You know the notion that this administration is going to come into office and they’re going to prosecute the brave men and women who carried out this program that kept America safe. It is, it is un-American. It’s something that hasn’t happened before in this country, in terms of somebody taking office and then starting to prosecute people who carried out policies that they disagreed with, you know, in the previous administration. He’s been very public about that.

Cheney says that Holder would be investigating people “who carried this program out according to the Department of Justice opinions,” but Newsweek reports that Holder is more concerned about “startling indications that some interrogators had gone far beyond what had been authorized in the legal opinions.”



137 Responses to “Liz Cheney: Investigating My Dad Would Prove Americans ‘Can’t Trust’ Democrats With National Security”

  1. dasm says:

    What??? This woman makes no sense at all. It’s like saying, investigating a murder means you can’t trust police/detectives with solving crimes.


  2. vinylspear says:

    No Cheney you have that one backwards and upside down.
    It is you who are un-american.


  3. mild_bill says:

    No, Liz. After 8 years of lawlessness by Repugnants
    we have history on our side to prove THEY could not
    PROVIDE or PROTECT our INTERNAL or EXTERNAL security!


  4. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Why does anyone pay attention to a word this woman says?

    Especially when she’s defending her father?


  5. BrianFL says:

    Sure they only targeted “terrorists”. Just like the wire-tapping only targeted “known Al Qaeda operatives”. That’s why they also had to keep it secret and avoid any oversight. That’s why Cheney had to tell the CIA not to inform Congress. Just like their torture and spying program, I’m sure it was all on the up and up. (end sarcasm)

    After hearing about the Cheney “assassination ring”, my first thoughts went to the UK’s weapons expert David Kelly.


  6. WillowOrchid says:

    Cheney sounds scared. How much longer will our Media shield him and give him countless opportunities to taint a prospective jury?

    Who gives a Rat’s turd what Liz Cheney thinks about anything?


  7. Zimzone says:

    I smell John Phuck Yoo in this pile of steaming Cheney.


  8. nanlichi says:

    It is un-American to shine the light of day on illegal activities? Really Liz?

    If the evil one has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to hide right? The corollary to that is that if he knew it was wrong he would have tried to hide it.

    Just like Daddy did.


  9. Buckie Boy says:

    No, it would prove that they uphold the law.

    So far I am unimpressed with their reluctance to bring charges against Bush and Cheney.

    It is obvious that they are WAR CRIMINALS and should have been charged wtih WAR CRIMES 6 months ago.


  10. Virtual Pebble says:

    Stick up for your Pop, Liz. Even after he gets popped into Leavenworth or some other branch of Club Fed.

    Congress and DoJ are derelict in their duty if they don’t investigate a failure of the administration to report to Congress, a reporting which is legally obligated.

    The Cheneys seem to forget that the reporting requirements are not just a good idea, it’s the law. There’s not anything new in the idea, though, of the GnOPe claiming that the law is a matter of ‘do as we say, not as we do’.

    And there’s certainly no threat to national security in conformance to the law, nor is it ‘un-American’ to pursue and investigation into what may be unlawful activity.


  11. eyeswideopen1 says:

    Zimzone Says:

    I smell John Phuck Yoo in this pile of steaming Cheney.

    lol…..phuck yoo….lol. I am surprised this guy has a job. I am more surprised he has not been disbarred yet.


  12. Bobwurst says:

    Pelosi says the CIA misled congress…

    There is evidence pointing to the CIA misleading congress…

    investigating the legitimate allegations that the CIA misled congress is bad for national security…

    Investigating a 20 year old land deal by the Clintons, and using it to attack him when he tried to go after Bin Laden, was good for national security…


  13. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    T O R A
    B O R A

    … nuf said.

    .


  14. Luis Chapulin M says:

    CHENEY: (…) You know the notion that this administration is going to come into office and they’re going to prosecute the brave men and women who carried out this program that kept America safe.

    Ah yes, the brave men and women who sodomized prisoners and piled them up naked. They should also receive medals for bravely killing a few tied-up prisoners here and there, too.

    /Sarcasm, in case it’s not obvious.


  15. Bobwurst says:

    anlichi Says:
    It is un-American to shine the light of day on illegal activities? Really Liz?

    If the evil one has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to hide right?

    Well, that was her defense when we found out her daddy was illegally listening to phone conversations of everyday americans, right?


  16. joeyramonesmom says:

    Nice try, Lizzie, but you better start baking a cake with a file in it. If the investigations move forward, daddy’s gonna be workin’ on a chain gang.


  17. LibertyLover says:

    Dear Liz Cheney,

    I don’t think that you can be objective here. Just saying.


  18. Another Jo says:

    It all Obama fault. Obama not doing what he promise. It bad bad time.

    Why Think Progess not talk health car yet today? Why so bad bad blogg?


  19. spencers mom says:

    Someone should kick Liz Cheney in the balls.

    Why is this proven liar and talking monkey given any attention, let alone a national stage?

    PEACE


  20. RantingTommy says:

    I couldn’t keep a straight face while blatantly lying like Liz does. Especially when she knows that at least half of the people watching KNOW she’s lying.

    She is a talented actress, although, like Madonna and Paulie Shore, she seems to only be able to play herself.


  21. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Liz,
    So, an uninformed Senate is a good thing?

    .


  22. darnay says:

    Liz is trying to flip the script. It will not work !!


  23. Jackie says:

    Liz knows if there is a full honest investigation her Father will have to leak the names of those who went along with this crime. Yes many Law Makers were involved and got paid to not cause any problems. Now we’ll need of more horror done by the Bush Administration over the 8 year crime wave. Now yes 9/11 was planned by the Bush Administration to make sure the invasion of Iraq continued. One person stood in the way and he was Joe Wilson. But Cheney took care of that by leaking Plame’s name and putting Judges in place to make sure the charges would be dismissed. People wondered where Cheney was as it was always Bush speaking like an idiot with the Press correcting his errors. Now we know Cheney was busy running the Country and the Govenment Departments. Well it was said in the Libby trial that Cheney spent alot of time at the CIA more then any Vice President in the History of our Country. But no one was listening to that at the time. Speaker Pelosi knew of the corruption and fought hard to get Dems in office in 2006 to help the American people get the Country back. She met with President Bush, got a US Contract for her husband and did exactly what she was told. Yes the Famous Words ” IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE”. Nancy got paid and Cheney continued without any problems. I don’t think Feinstein will push to hard nor will Reid/Dodd who were in the back pocket of the Bush Administration.


  24. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Hey Lizzie, you’re not supposed to let them see you sweat.


  25. Bobwurst says:

    I find another joe as annoying as everyone else, but please flag post 20 for namejacking. that is unacceptable, no matter who does it.


  26. WaltinTexas says:

    The evil, corrupt, treasonous apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.


  27. raynman says:

    It may be debatable as to whether the Democrats can be trusted with national security (9/11 did happen with the Republicans in office, after all), we do know that they certainly can be trusted with the Constitution over Cheney… and that’s what’s really important….


  28. RantingTommy says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    I find another joe as annoying as everyone else, but please flag post 20 for namejacking. that is unacceptable, no matter who does it.

    seconded


  29. okie dokie says:

    So, does Cheney really think we will swallow that
    “national security breach” kool-aid if his daughter is
    serving it up?

    Way to pimp your little girl, Dick!


  30. RantingTommy says:

    The right wing base fears attack more than they love freedom.


  31. buzzbomb says:

    Holder will do nothing. Life in our corrupt ass government will gone on. Oh sure, they’ll act like something is going to happen, but nothing will. We are too far down the rabbit hole.


  32. spencers mom says:

    RantingTommy Says:

    I couldn’t keep a straight face while blatantly lying like Liz does.

    While we were playing License Plate Bingo on family vacations, the Cheney children were being taught how to beat a polygraph.

    As George Costanza said, “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    PEACE


  33. evangenital says:

    That woman probably has billions socked away in a Swiss bank account, blood money from her Halliburton earnings as a result of the Iraq invasion.

    LIz Cheney is a monster, from a monstrous clan.

    Her husband was one of the principal architects of the torture program.

    Albert Speer, Hitler’s architect, was prosecuted for being part of the inner circle of the Third Reich. Cheney;s husband should face criminal prosecution for war crimes.


  34. pags2 says:

    She does not say that the programs were legal.Her argument is basically that her father should not be investigated because the Democrats are mean and unpatriotic. She should fade back into obscurity.


  35. ljm says:

    Don’t worry Liz you’ll get your chance to be a character witness at the trial. Imagine this bunch saying the appointing a Special Prosecutor is “shameful.”


  36. ctcadguy says:

    To the Editors of TP:

    Hate to tell you but 911 was an Inside job.

    http://www.gnn.tv/threads/35061/Scientists_find_active_super_thermite_in_WTC_dust

    An abundance of evidence over the years proves this.

    Of course our government certainly will not investigate itself.

    Oh Well – anyone here say Fascist Police State.


  37. Mark701 says:

    How much would you be willing to be that this program had to do with eliminating US CITIZENS that were associated with or thought to be associated with al Qaeda. That’s the kind of thing DICK would want covered up.


  38. labman57 says:

    Great. Vader’s daughter speaks again.
    The Bush/Cheney regime took an ideological dump on the U.S. Constitution. The ends DO NOT always justify the means. Gonzales, Rove, Yoo, and Rumsfeld should also be held accountable for their actions.


  39. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Bobwurst Says:
    July 13th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    I agree. Done and done.

    “Someone should kick Liz Cheney in the balls.”

    Thanks for the laugh, s-mom! :D


  40. tombaker says:

    I hope I get to see plenty of footage of her weeping and wailing while her sick, old, psychotic pater is dragged off to prison.


  41. stateofthedivision says:

    Horse Hockey! It’s the job of the Justice Department to investigate possible law breaking by senior elected officials.


  42. Doom Siren says:

    I don’t get it. I don’t see how the media isn’t listening to what Liz is saying and having one serious WTF? moment.


  43. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Outstanding. Let’s do it. Thanks for agreeing, daughter of Satan…


  44. Zooey says:

    Lizzie’s daddy is pissed off?

    Boo frickin’ hoo.

    Let me tell you how pissed off I am about the Bush administration allowing 9/11 to happen.

    George W. Bush wanted to be president soooooo much, and he got his wish, but he didn’t actually want to do the job, so he didn’t f ucking do it. He just didn’t do it! How messed up is that!?

    But get this, Lizzie, your daddy knew George W. Bush just wanted to wear the “president hat,” take lots of vacations, and have his pictures taken with as many props as he could find, so Dick chose himself to be the vice president. That was pure genius, wasn’t it? I’ll give him that one.

    Well, the Boy King was f ucking up before 9/11, but we were just riding out the one-term screw up, hoping for the best. Then George got a presidential daily briefing on August 6. 2001, but hell, there was brush to clear, fish to be caught, golf to be played, and pictures to be taken — who has time to worry about cave-dwellers who want to attack us? Dude, seriously! Handle it, Harriet!

    In the meantime, Lizzie, your daddy was picking up Georgie’s slack. No wonder he grins like he does, huh? He was the secret president — the most powerful man in the world, with none of the responsibility. That’s how he saw it anyway. The problem is, Lizzie, that your daddy was REALLY BAD at being the secret president. I mean seriously incompetent. Your daddy was so scared after 9/11, he couldn’t even pretend to be following the Constitution or the rule of law. He just made it up as he went along, and then classified everything — then ragged from that day on that he and George W. Bush kept us “safe” since 9/11, as if we were giving out do-overs for allowing the biggest terrorist attack ever accomplished in this country. Wow.

    Lizzie, your daddy didn’t (and doesn’t) give a shit about this country. He cares about power, his bank account, his friends’ bank accounts, and his legacy. I’m sure you and your sister are somewhere in the top 20 things he cares about, Lizzie. You probably get extra points for making a fool of yourself for him on the talk shows.

    So, Lizzie, you’ll understand that when you say that Democrats can’t be trusted with national security, or that holding people like your daddy accountable is “un-American,” I will kindly invite you to shove your shiny flag pin up your ass and shut the f uck up.

    That’s how pissed off I am.


  45. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    the notion that this administration is going to come into office and they’re going to prosecute the the anti American cowards who carried out this anti-Constitutional program that fed anti-American sentiment worldwide and made us less safe. It is, it is our Constitutional responsibility to all Americans. It’s something that hasn’t happened before in this country, in terms of somebody taking office and then starting to prosecute people who carried out policies that were patently unConstitutional, you know, in the previous administration because no previous administration broke the law on such a scale.. He’s been very paranoid about that.

    Fixed it right up, Tin Lizzie.


  46. misscoleopteramolly says:

    nanlichi Says
    July 13th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    It is un-American to shine the light of day on illegal activities? Really Liz?
    _____________________________________________________________

    Especially if the illegal activities were done by a Republican. Now, shining a bright, bright spotlight on sexual misbehavior by a Democrat — THAT’S as American as apple pie.


  47. Another Joe says:

    This is insane – Did Ricard Nixon use his children when his administration was being investigated. What about hitler’s kids during the Nuremberg trials?

    Can anyone site any any examples of this?

    Why does MSM give a totally unqualified kid of cheney, with no credentials that make her opinions valid or meaningful, a platform?


  48. Another Joe says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt

    The repugs/neocons have even lost that teabaggers – pretty lame bunch. They have backed off promoting these wackos because THEY GET BOOED at the staged events!

    Expect the term “teabagging” to revert back to its more-widely known meaning – to insert a scrotum into one’s mouth.


  49. Another Joe says:

    You tell em Arn!


  50. cynicalgirl says:

    Hey Liz, if dead-eye Dick is really innocent, why not investigate so he can clear his name?

    BTW, since this latest revelation, I’m curious about the 2001 attempted coup on Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Could this assassination team have been involved?


  51. Another Joe says:

    Cheney sounds scared. How much longer will our Media shield him and give him countless opportunities to taint a prospective jury?

    Exactly their goal – and we can all see the mainstream media is “catapulting” the propoganda.


  52. DRxJ says:

    Oh Lizzie, you’re just so darned cute.
    Okay, maybe not, but you do try:
    I mean, if they want to go to the American people and say that they disagree with the notion that we ought to be capturing and killing al Qaeda leaders,

    Capturing and killing GUILTY al Qaeda leaders maybe, but holding hundreds of “brown skin” Middle Easterners because they happened to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and without a trial?
    Not so much.
    Let’s put it this way, shouldn’t we also be capturing and killing anti-abortionists? After all, they are terrorists, they threaten our citizens, and there be a whole bunch of em running around this country.
    Your defense is stale, and reeks of submitted talking points.
    Honoring you father is fine, but making up bull $hit to attack the other side is NOT!

    OH, and Hi Twajie!


  53. Alecto says:

    David Addington had personally approve EVERY person who was to have access and knowledge of this program.

    Liz Cheney needs to be investigated on obstrcution of justice and treason charges.


  54. mild_bill says:

    Can an Ex president and a president of vice
    still be Impeached?

    I would believe the answer would be yes, but anyone
    have any more information about this?


  55. okie dokie says:

    The Cheneys are implying that exposing their treason

    is unpatriotic.

    That 9/11 psycological blackmail only works when you’re

    holding executive office, dick. Unless you’re willing to

    spend all your war profits on bribes!


  56. Another Joe says:

    LOL

    a few proclaim the speak for EVERYBODY.

    The stalkers and flamers are not actually as popular as they proclaim, which is why they hide behind a small clique.

    Real big fans, there, stalking and flaming, pretending the be the best of supporters, is disrespecting the editors big time.

    And assuming they are not smart enough to see it is even more so.


  57. LibertyLover says:

    Zooey @46

    You make the assumption that Cheney wasn’t successful. You just don’t know what his agenda was. His agenda was to create Chaos in the Middle East and to legally steal the treasury of the United States for himself and his cronies. In this he was very successful.

    We only perceive him to be incompetent because he wasn’t competent in the DEMOCRATIC sense that this country was founded on. But you are right, he was very competent on the DICTATORIAL sense of plundering and pillaging.

    And remember how mad he got at GWB when GWB didn’t listen to his advice and follow through on Cheney’s wishes? (Complete Pardon of Scooter Libby, anyone?)


  58. Another Joe says:

    I agree, making this about “competence” is a distraction no matter how well-meaning it is.

    To the folks stealing BILLIONS AND BILLIONS (and cheney is just their public race) they are COMPETENT BEYOND AVERICE.

    Especially even when most folks smell a rat, they just talk about the stench coming from in front of the camera.


  59. DRxJ says:

    I swear, I just “heard” a small fart in the wind.
    Seriously.
    Just an insignificant blip.


  60. Another Joe says:

    I see the stalk and flamers are back – the small group that pretends to be big fans while undermining each and every post.

    And, evidently, being so disrespectful of the editors intelligence, that they think they are too stupid to see through the dishonest tactics and who the disruptors are.


  61. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Another Joe Says:

    LOL

    a few proclaim the speak for EVERYBODY.

    The stalkers and flamers are not actually as popular as they proclaim, which is why they hide behind a small clique.

    Real big fans, there, stalking and flaming, pretending the be the best of supporters, is disrespecting the editors big time.

    And assuming they are not smart enough to see it is even more so.

    FLAGGED.


  62. DRxJ says:

    Whoah.
    There it is again.
    Neat.


  63. eyesopen says:

    The reason that the big Cheney is mad about all of this is that he’s already used used up all of his jailhouse deferments.

    The little Cheney is busy earning a reputation which cannot be properly or decently described in a social context.


  64. Zooey says:

    LibertyLover Says:
    July 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    I see your point, Liberty Lover, and I think you are correct. I wanted to keep a fairly narrow focus, since really, I could have gone on much longer, and I really am trying to manage my stress more effectively. :-)


  65. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Another Joe, I don’t even see where anybody said anything to or about you. So unless I missed it you’ve lost your mind.


  66. RantingTommy says:

    poor AJ, still failing at trying to make every thread about him

    tsk tsk


  67. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Liz Cheney: Investigating My Dad Would Prove Americans ‘Can’t Trust’ Democrats With National Security

    EDITED FOR SANITY

    Liz Cheney: Investigating my Dad would prove to Americans that the democrats DON’T think anyone is above the law, not even a president or vice president.


  68. fletc3her says:

    Dick Cheney and George Bush have a terrible national security record. The excesses of their over-reaction to their own failures show that they care more about winning elections than protecting the national security interests of this country. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the primary targets of their covert surveillance operations were their political enemies.


  69. LibertyLover says:

    eyesopen @66

    Jailhouse deferments? Where can I get myself some of those? Never know when I might need them. I’m law-abiding but you never know.

    ;)


  70. Another Joe says:

    Related story:

    I’ve Seen 1,200 Torture Photos

    This moment, in which the Attorney General of the United States claims to be considering the possibility of allowing our laws against torture to be enforced seems a good one in which to reveal that I have seen over 1,200 torture photos and a dozen videos that are in the possession of the United States military. These are photographs depicting torture, the victims of torture, and other inhuman and degrading treatment. Several videos show a prisoner intentionally slamming his head face-first very hard into a metal door. Guards filmed this from several angles rather than stopping it.


  71. Another Joe says:

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  72. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Where’s Dick now???? He was on his North American media tour for three months showing his arrogance as he spewed lies to cover his evil ass. Has he slithered back into his cave?

    I hope that when Dick first heard this report in the media that he instantly filled his depends.


  73. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Another Jo Says:
    July 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Why is this faux name-jacker being given so many recommends? C’mon, folks, this is just wrong.


  74. Winski says:

    Classic Cheney..take your pick which one….

    Liz would make a nice addition as a hand holder on Dick’s flight to the Hague !!


  75. Another Joe says:

    Related news:

    Cheney ‘ran secret black ops unit inside the CIA for eight years’

    ALLEGATIONS that former US vice-president Dick Cheney ran a secret “black ops” unit inside the CIA for eight years without informing Congress have increased pressure on the White House for a full investigation of alleged abuses of power by the Bush administration.

    The unit was so secret that even the former CIA director George Tenet did not control its activities, according to reports yesterday.




  76. benji85 says:

    You know it’s funny watching the confirmation hearings today hearing the Republicants claim that the law is clear there is no gray and that they are worried about Sotomayor will change that. However when they hear talk about Obama’s administration hold people accountable to the law, then it is somehow wrong.

    I believe that in most instances the law is gray, however the crap Bush and his lackeys pulled need investigation because there were laws that were clear that were broken.


  77. John Barringer says:

    Rotten apples fall even closer to the tree.


  78. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    All of this secret stuff being about National security and keeping our country safe is a bunch of bullsh*t!

    Bush, Cheney & Rove truly thought that the republicans would remain in power for 10-20 more years. They had most of their marbles in place as they appointed like minded judges and prosecuting attorney’s all across the country while perfecting vote caging, voter disfranchisement and electronic voting machines to flip voted.

    So they broke the law at will, hiding behind the cloak of National security, thinking they would be protected by a long reign of republicans in the White House and a republican majority in both houses of congress.

    Then unchecked greed on Wall Street and with the banks, along with two failed and costly wars hit them and the republican party like a tsunami. Now all Cheney can say is that he did what he did to keep our country safe and hopes everyone buys his bullsh*t


  79. jjm says:

    I do think Americans will see through this blatant self-serving nonsense.


  80. Another Joe says:

    Too funny to watch WAXCLA try to give a peer reviewed scientific study proving thermite residue at twin towers to reid – and he won’t take it!

    LUGAR took it, but you should see the look on his face!


  81. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    This all makes Seymore Hirsche’s claim that Cheney had his own private assassination squad very interesting and totally believable. Perhaps this is what was being hid???


  82. RantingTommy says:

    I don’t think it’s a fly, sounds more like a gnat


  83. Doc Rock says:

    It would also mean they hate the flag and apple pie, too, hunh, Liz? Whatta Scheisskopf!!!


  84. okie dokie says:

    HEY!

    #59 ANOTHER JOE!

    After eight long years of Cheney raping my country, this might
    possibly be the day that he is exposed for the criminal he is.

    To me, it’s pretty damn exciting and interesting.

    Did you notice the topic at all?


  85. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    it’s amazing how we can’t see daddy’s hand up the upscale welfare queen’s ass working her mouth when she opens up her yap.


  86. candide says:

    Isn’t that just too sweet! She loves her daddy. Too bad her daddy is a lying, murdering scumbag.


  87. MapleStreet says:

    Let’s assume that Cheney is telling the truth. Everything done was in line with the constitutional authority of the president (and I assume the distain for constructionist judges also extends to constructionist executives).

    Then why are you so concerned about a simple deposition to get things on the record ?

    The repubs impress me as a squaling 7 year old trying to avoid bedtime, sequentially peeling off a long list of excuses:

    I need a drink of water.
    I need to use the bathroom.
    It will only hurt the dems.
    We were acting lawfully.
    My stomach hurts.
    I need a snack.


  88. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    so…uh liz,
    tell us what it feels like to whore yourself out to a war criminal? apparently hermann goering’s daughter defending her old man til the day she died.


  89. Bobwurst says:

    Hey Joe some of us in the club are defending you against the namejacker, the least you could do is to stick to the topic, for one day…


  90. Zooey says:

    Bozo,

    I think you just looked into poor Lizzie’s future.


  91. Peter C says:

    Liz is an American, so’s her mom and dad. None of them can trust Democrats (who are in charge of both National Security and the Justice department) not to prosecute her dad. So, American can’t trust the Democrats with National Security – those three Americans.

    Why were we asking her again???


  92. UCSBKitty says:

    The only people who’ll believe that this secret program had anything to do with trying to go after Al Qaeda are the 20% that believe anything that Fox News tells them…


  93. okie dokie says:

    ANOTHER JOE:

    So sorry.

    When I saw #59 I thought you were referring to TP politics
    and being off topic. My PTSD from last night’s thread must have kicked in. My bad.

    I will go meditate now and maybe my eyes will uncross.


  94. LibertyLover says:

    The Washington Times has Lizzie thinking about making a run for public office:

    “The daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that running for political office is on her horizon.”

    Please. Just say this isn’t so…


  95. suziq says:

    What level of security clearance does Liz have?


  96. jbrantow says:

    Once again….chicken hawk and draft dodger cowardly cheney needs his daughter to protect him. Pathetic.


  97. Chickenbone Bill says:

    I thought all this “I was just following orders BS” was flushed down the crapper at Nazi and Japanese War Trials after WWII?


  98. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    AB, would that be like one of those ‘Ken Lay Heart Attacks’?? (**cough, wheeze**)


  99. DallasNE says:

    Like father, like daughter. Just like Dick, daughter Liz runs the fear card up the flag pole at the first sign of criticism. To the Cheney’s the law is for sissys. Hitler didn’t let any laws stop him either. We know where that can lead.


  100. LibertyLover says:

    An assassination squad operating out of the VP office of Cheney needs to be investigated. Perhaps that is why Cheney still needs Secret Service Protection from ongoing death threats?


  101. LibertyLover says:

    AB -

    Is there no justice? geeezzzz.

    If there was, would Cheney still even be alive?


  102. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    So Liz Cheney thinks that the American people would approve and appreciate assassination squads? Why is this vapid woman given the ability to be on every talking head show acting like she’s some kind of an authority? Apparently the GOP is grooming her to be their next woman superstar. Heaven help us all.


  103. Marie says:

    So, the spawn of the evil one has emerged to speak.
    It only proves that evil is destined to be with us as long as this earth exists.


  104. tomcat27834 says:

    ZOOEY #46…………..

    ZOOEY #46………………..

    VENT SOME MORE ANGER ZOOEY……..EXCELLENT and ACCURATE RESPONSE ON YOUR PART !!!!!!!!


  105. majii says:

    Cheney has been incommunicado in the past few days. He’s probably hiding out in his newly constructed bunker.


  106. wizard2000 says:

    This WSJ article looks more and more like another right-wing “planted” story meant to divert attention away from what the Bush administration, and rogue American Dick Cheney, were really doing, something that they, and he, were afraid Congress and patriotic American citizens would find out about, something that would blacken the record of the Bush administration, and the Republican Party, even more.


  107. ranus69 says:

    Liz’s logic is so phucked and asinine?

    It’s un-American to investigate your fathers crimes and yet it’s American to torture and create a secret intra-government assassination ring in which laws were broken and than he lied to Congress?

    Liz phuck what your evil, lying father said he is not to be trusted and he is un-American.


  108. samg says:

    now let me get this straight. the cia started a secret program in 2001 to assassinate al qaida officials. yet by june of 2009, when the agency’s new director, leon panetta, learned of it, that program was still not operational. after almost 8 years. it ought to be investigated for its inefficiency and ineffectiveness if for nothing else.


  109. glogrrl says:

    ZOOEY #46………That’s how pissed off I am.

    YOU GO, GIRL!


  110. Ape-Man says:

    I wonder how long Liz thrashed her mind to come up with that one.


  111. ranus69 says:

    Zooey @ 46

    Spot the phuck on!!! And I feel your anger as well.


  112. Marie says:

    The spawn herself is going to substitute host for MSNBC Morning Joe tomorrow!
    How low will MSNBC go in their attempt to show the right that the channel is not all liberal?

    BTW — what is this new rating system — how does it work??


  113. Old Uncle Dave says:

    Be careful, America. If Dick gets pissed off, some more buildings might turn to dust.


  114. Ape-Man says:

    Marie, i guess we can vote either up or down resulting a + or – total. I’m thinking good to let trolls how many share their ideas.


  115. Ape-Man says:

    The spawn herself is going to substitute host for MSNBC Morning Joe tomorrow!
    How low will MSNBC go in their attempt to show the right that the channel is not all liberal

    Ya, i don’t get it! these Republicans are criminal.


  116. kennethetucker says:

    sigh…

    (What A Dick) Cheney, perhaps the MOST ‘chicken’ of ALL the Chickenhawks of the Bush/Cheney ‘roost’, once again showing his true color, yellow. Cowering behind the skirts of ‘Lynn (Vietnam deferment #5) Cheney in some undisclosed location.

    (Perhaps his attorney FINALLY got thru to him, as in ’stow it’?)

    As for her ‘assertion’ (to the Moonie Times no less):

    CHENEY:

    There’s this big piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning that says that it was a number of different concepts for ways that we could capture or kill al Qaeda leaders in the days after 9/11. I am really surprised that the Democrats decide that that’s what they want to fight over.

    a) she’s quoting the Post (another Murdock/Fox) holding
    b) of course, it’s undisclosed sources (just like all those planted stories that Miller and Scooter and DICK ran thru the ass of the NYT) so… you believe HER/’them’? Fu*king-A NO!
    c) what we (Dems/Progressive) want to ‘fight’ over is accountability, the rule of law, and getting some people UNDER OATH and ON THE RECORD.

    (What A Dick) Cheney, come outta your hole your Chicksh*t Chickenhawk POS.


  117. jarjarbush says:

    What part of “defend against all enemies, both foreign and domestic” does Liz not understand?


  118. flight says:

    CHENEY: His reaction to the story that we may well be prosecuting folks, I’m happy to talk about that. … You know, he is very angry, as you’ve heard him say publicly. You know the notion that this administration is going to come into office and they’re going to prosecute the brave men and women who carried out this program that kept America safe. It is, it is un-American. It’s something that hasn’t happened before in this country, in terms of somebody taking office and then starting to prosecute people who carried out policies that they disagreed with, you know, in the previous administration. He’s been very public about that.

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

    Brave men and women: you give your father way too much credit
    look who he is hiding behind
    your father is a coward

    Poliies they disagree with: what your father initiated went
    way beyond the pale, this is not
    simply a disagreement
    The cesspool: The mess Cheney/Bush left behind is the
    extraordinary for a new administration
    to deal with
    Motivation: you have it wrong if you think this is President
    Obama’s prerogative. A major component of
    Obama’s base is insisting.
    History demands it!


  119. Robert M. says:

    So, is this the cheney daughter who is a lesbian?

    I want to ask all true, red-blooded Americans out there, can we trust our National Security to a lesbian?

    And really, how could we trust our National Security to a president of vice who was unable to prevent his daughter from becoming a lesbian? I think it’s outrageous that this issue wasn’t fully brought out in the press prior to the cheney appointment by the supreme court.


  120. republicanSScareme says:

    It must be difficult being the daughter of the biggest political criminal in American history…the biggest scumbag in town?

    Liz says:

    “It’s something that hasn’t happened before in this country, in terms of somebody taking office and then starting to prosecute people who carried out policies that they disagreed with…”

    It’s not about disagreeing with policies, stupid. It’s about breaking the law. About prosecuting people guilty of violating the public trust…violating their oaths of office. Our system of justice was severely damaged by the criminal-rich Republicans playing dictators.

    What the Republicans are saying is that we’re not supposed to go after criminals because we “disagreed” with them. BS on steroids.

    Liz, you need to look up the word JUSTICE and analyze its meaning.


  121. kennethetucker says:

    Robert M. > WTF, over?!

    Dude, either you are wayyyyy OFF your meds or, overdosing!

    a) this isn’t the lesbian daughter, that’s mary, this is ‘deferment #5′ (his LAST Vietnam era ‘ticket’ outta having to serve), Lynn.

    b) lesbian/gay doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with ANYONE’s ability to ‘protect our country’. As far as i know, (Whatta) Dick Cheney isn’t gay, and look how he fu*ked things up.

    And, there are (too) many good pilots/field officers/interpreters that have be tossed from the services because of ‘don’t Ask don’t Tell’ and, our safety as a nation is the less for it.

    c)

    ‘cheney appointment to the Supreme Court’

    … WTF??

    i hope you are NOT operating any heavy equipment and/or driving anywhere tonight.

    wow


  122. Veritas1978 says:

    Wizard2000 at #114 nailed it. The WSJ article is a plant to suggest “those liberals don’t want to kill Al Qaeda!”

    But everyone knew we have been killing Al Qaeda. The CIA waited five months to tell Panetta about it, and then he ended the program the very day he was told?

    The program was something much more sick and twisted, so bad that even the Congressional Dem patsies like Feinstein & Rockefeller couldn’t have stomached it, so the CIA withheld it for eight years. It’s got to be something really awful.

    There is much more to this story. Right now, we’re just getting the tactical defensive leaks.


  123. Ape-Man says:

    So cheney was giving orders to the CIA without Bush signing off on it. That’s wrong Dick.


  124. Ape-Man says:

    So bush and cheney have been operating well outside American honor, American law, and the American constitution have they? A violation of the basic issues of acountability in a democracy. Cheney was a master chess piece to facilitate Bush’s crimes. BushCo’s crimes…


  125. MJT says:

    UHM….Dick is going to need a roomate in the pokie …


  126. Game of Life says:

    Listen woman! Your father carried out crimes, broke laws, he’s a criminal. No! We weren’t kept safe during chimpy’s years. chimpy never gave a viable explanation concerning anthrax, blackouts and other forms of anarchy.

    If you call “keeping us safe for eight years”(liar) is outing of a covert operative, then no wonder you’re a teabbagger.

    Keep on talking about your father’s crimes and how wonderful it is he ran roughshod in the WH, keep on talking about how you would break the law and you will be held as an accessory or coconspiator.

    Also we don’t want any stinkin buckshots (pellets) in office, EVER again.


  127. Game of Life says:

    chimpy was the president, well in name, and he is the ONE who’s responsible.


  128. Ape-Man says:

    Modern day toture. Modern day preemptive assasins. just think of it, if you can. It’s lord of the Flies, and it’s here, now. clear and present danger.


  129. Foxtrottango2 says:

    Just hope your inbred hillbilly redneck pappy doesn’t go to prison and becomes somebody “woman”, Lizzy.

    Personally, I hope he share a cell with a black muslim. Now, that would really be justice.

    It would make me start believing in God again!


  130. Foxtrottango2 says:

    Wow! What I have read and seen about the entire “Dick” Cheney family, it’s a queer one. One of it’s kind.

    No wonder America is so sick!


  131. Ambrose says:

    Liz, your old man is nothing but a draft dodging SOB. In addition he is a gutless bastard who sent over 4,300 of our young men and women to die in a war that he had a big hand in starting. He does not have the balls to stand up to anyone and has his daughter running defense for him. Put him in a room with me or any one of hundreds of thousands of Vietnam era veterans and we would all be more than happy to beat the crap out of him!


  132. bluesunflower says:

    CHENEY: I mean, if they want to go to the American people and say that they disagree with the notion that we ought to be capturing and killing al Qaeda leaders, I think it’s just going to prove to the American people one more time why they can’t trust the Democrats with our national security.

    WTF? Way to throw out a misdirection here, Ms. Cheney. I don’t think many disagree about “capturing and killing al Qaeda leaders”. Rather it’s HOW you choose to do it. And illegally, not to mention behind Congress’ back, is NOT the way.


  133. Robt says:

    Is Liz Cheney taking a page from George Bush? Remember GW howling about how Saddam threatened his dad?

    I’m happy that Liz cares for her father and what she might inherit from him. But, I just do not understand how he could send his daughter out to gravel for forgiveness from Americans.

    Liz and Sarah Palin should go and start the “Tea Party” and challenge the GOP.

    So answer me this, Does Liz Cheney have privy to top secret information?

    She makes the asumption in her dad’s defense.

    Did Dick Cheney give top secret information to his Daughter who did not have need to know nor clearance?


  134. MJT says:

    Sadam Cheney could be Bernie Madoff’s roomate , maybe we could get Halliburton to cover the court costs . Perhaps the IRS will give Halliburton a tax break for doing this………..OOOps…they are now an “Offshore Corporation” and avoid US taxes…I’m bad


  135. Sir Real says:

    Cheney has decades of experience subverting justice,ignoring treaties and burning the constitution. Like father like son.

    Sorry to inform you girl but your daddy is a war criminal in addition to being a enemy of the state. Your attempts to give cover for his crimes is somewhat less than admirable. If you know what happened that makes daddy guilty of leaking secret information. Of course he also has a history of this,as evidenced in the Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson affair.

    Did he also tell you how he arranged those anthrax attacks,on Democrats?



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