Rep. Adam Smith Responds To Rove: Administration Leaks ‘Far, Far, Far More’ Than Congress
Rep. Adam Smith Responds To Rove: Administration Leaks ‘Far, Far, Far More’ Than Congress
Last night on Fox News, former Bush policy czar Karl Rove argued that the administration is justified in withholding information from Congress. “It is so dangerous to give Congress information” because they leak it, Rove argued.
ThinkProgress interviewed Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) earlier today, and asked him to respond to that accusation by Rove:
First of all, leaks come far, far, far more often from the administration than they do from Congress. So if the issue is we can’t tell anyone because they might leak it, well then you better not do it at all, because you’re going to have to tell somebody and somebody’s going to leak it. Vastly more amounts of secret programs have come out of the administration than they have come out of Congress.
Smith added that the importance of informing Congress is because of the need for checks and balances. “We have oversight responsibility for the intelligence community,” he explained. Smith said that if the intelligence community pursues wrong or illegal activities, Congress is held responsible for it. “If we’re not briefed fully and in a timely manner,” he said, referencing the recent example of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, “then we’re being held responsible for things we didn’t know about.” Watch it:
Smith is of course correct that the Executive Branch leaks a great deal. After all, while working in the White House, Karl Rove himself leaked classified national security information, helping to damage the career of a covert CIA agent. Moreover, the secret program that has been reported in the press in recent days (purportedly a targeted assassination program) was leaked to the Wall Street Journal by “two former intelligence officials familiar with the matter” in its report — not Congress.
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Watch this clip of Liz Cheney dodging the same question over and over again. Like the title of this article says, shows no understanding of the law.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2166
July 14th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThere is no point in trying to teach Rove about the Constitution because he does not believe in the document. Rove believes the executive branch of government is not bound by the US Constitution. In fact, Rove thinks the executive branch is not bound by any law and can make its own laws.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:06 pmStomp says,
You’re back and once againyou are
FLAGGED!!
July 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pmkarl is just a liar. Everyone should know it by now and he should never be listened to about anything including a pardon.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
G’bye, Stomp.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pmTim Vaculik
Whatever timmy. It doesn’t matter to anyone except you. They are all liars and you are just one of them.
bottom line, kkkarl whined about congress leaking.
irony, you guys just don’t get it.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Once again, Tim Vacuous lies through his teeth. KKKarl, along with Cheney are responsible for the treason that destroyed Ms. Plame’s carrer as well as, in all probability resulted in the deaths of those in Iran that we she employed.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:17 pmTimmy, flagged for off topic.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pmAnd Tim Vacuous lies like a thief.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pmThe only way to respond to Mr. Rove is like this, “Mr Rove, you have the right to remain silent, anything you say may be held against you, you have the right to an attorney…..”
That’s how you respond to a Bushite.
RIP
July 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
they didn’t just hide stompers post this time, it’s gone. good riddance
July 14th, 2009 at 6:20 pmIronically, it’s the uncontrolled racism of the right wing that’s “stomping out” conservatism as a viable political force in this country. The GOP is rapidly shrinking to a whites only Southern regional party because they’ve yet to crack down on the lunatic right wing racist fringe.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pmstomps bs was removed from the other thread too. You’re next timmithititty
July 14th, 2009 at 6:21 pmValerie Plame did NOT have covert status in any event.
The Director of the CIA stated otherwise. Why else would she be working there, and why else would she give up her career at the agency? When she was outed, her covert status evaporated and was useless in her role.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pmHis name is really Adam Smith? Nice. I guess he goes golfing with Thomas Paine and John Locke.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pmIt doesn’t matter if Congress leaks or not. Nor, for that matter, does it matter if the Administration is full of leaks. The law requires that Congress be provided with certain information and it’s not up to any individual to disobey the law.
BTW. Armitage was part of Bushco. It was up to his superiors to keep him quiet or punish him rather than tell him to break the law.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pmTim Vaculik says:
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Mr. Rove is exactly correct. Congress leaks like a sieve…
July 14th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
And the Bush administration leaked like a 20 year prison con’s anus………….
July 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pmCongress damned near has a duty to “leak” information to the public.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pmTim Vacusuck lies like a rug …….
July 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Trollspotter says:
Ironically, it’s the uncontrolled racism of the right wing that’s “stomping out” conservatism as a viable political force in this country. The GOP is rapidly shrinking to a whites only Southern regional party because they’ve yet to crack down on the lunatic right wing racist fringe.
Interestingly enough, Judge Richard Posner, US Ct. of Appeals, 7th circuit (Midwest) is a conservative judge who is complaining that there is nowhere for intellectual conservatives to go even in the Republican party. Posner advocates a cost/benefit analysis in litigation as a legal standard.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“She wasn’t covert!” has been the desperate argument for years. Why, then, would Fitz get involved? Why did the Bush admin feel the need to defend itself? Why did Scooter’s case go to trial? She was just a rank-and-file agency employee in the PR department, according to the out-of-power lemmings.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pmTimmy needs his meds adjusted. He seems more irrational than normal and that’s saying something…..yikes.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm…
this new “vote down” feature
really puts the trolls into a
republican meth frenzy, doesn’t it?
:)
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July 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
He was an effing member of the Bush Administration, Timmeh.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pmLike the new rating system, though trolls will have the power to knock out the up votes of more esteemed posters.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Look this up timmy(pointing up my ass).
We don’t care. It was a dispicable and dishonorable act no matter what you say so stfu about it.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:33 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I did “look it up”, Timmeh.
But official legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations, fully establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak’s column was published in July 2003.
I’m sure you can follow the footnotes and establish the accuracy of the Wiki entry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame
July 14th, 2009 at 6:35 pmMegaloptera McWars,
Sorry, this lie about her status has been repeated so often most people are actually ignorant of one simple fact – she was NOT a covert agent.
After all the attention within and without the judiciary, you expect your sandbagging claim to cancel out the judgement of the agency director himself and hundreds of legal minds? If she wasn’t covert, as you vehemently claim, no investigation would have taken place. The government doesn’t know the status of its own employees, but you do, apparently.
What’s your deal? Was Valerie not qualified in your mind to be covert? Is covert status reserved for Bushies?
July 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pmTimmeh. Why arent you embarassed to be so stupid? Did you REALLY think that ONLY one person could leak something? Until it was published any number of people could have leaked it and Roves lawyer ADMITTED he leaked it. So no its not a lie but you ARE breathtakingly stupid and brainwashed.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pmIf you look it up it has your picture. You have ranted about plame and I don’t see her name anywhere in the article…..get it?
you are a troll, why not just admit it and let’s get that part behind us so we can move forward.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pmMegaloptera McWars says:
Like the new rating system, though trolls will have the power to knock out the up votes of more esteemed posters.
There’s only three “regular” trolls. Two victims of multiple personality disorder, who produce the endless stream of sockpuppets, plus Timmeh.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:39 pmTim Vacuous says,
Lets see “Chump”.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:41 pmThe CIA stated unequivocally that she was indeed covert. She was running a operation in Iran that kept tabs on that Country’s Nuclear program. According to the CIA and other sources, her operation was providing good information on the state of their program and progress (if any) towards aquiring a Nuclear Weapon.
I am of the belief that Ms. Plame was outed by the Traitors Karl Rove and Dick Cheney for not only her husband’s op-ed damming the administrations rational for war with Iraq (”yellow cake,” remember that Tim?) but also because her work directly contradicted the Bushies conclusion that Iran was close to getting the bomb and destroyed their rationale for listing Iran as a member of the “Axis of Evil.”
Tim, next time you here to come post, make sure you have facts to back up your assertions. Not YOUR facts, but the real, honest to God bonafides. Otherwise STFU!
“It is so dangerous to give congress information.”
I’ll bet the founding fathers would agree completely.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:41 pmMegaloptera McWars,
What trolls? I’ve seen a few people from both left and right “trolling”, but by and large people here are just engaged in conversation.
Do you understand the definition of “troll” ?
I consider your arrogant assertion of a long-debunked claim to be trolling, Tim, because every falsehood you spew here, is spewed with your typical sense of grandiose. You’re not here to argue a point, you’re here to f uck your own ego.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:43 pmTim Vaculik says:
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Valerie Plame did NOT have covert status in any event.
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Timmeh you are a liar and a fool and a stupid brainwashed useful idiot. The CIA read her employment record into the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. She was covert PERIOD. Only the stupidest and most brainwashed morons are still trying the Plame wasnt covert IDIOCY. It has been PROVEN TO BE A LIE. What is it about proving how brainwashed you are that appeals to you? Do you enjoy making a fool out of yourself? Do you think humiliating yourself and establishing how stupid a member of the Limborg hivemind you are will do you some good somehow? Stop. It isnt to late to at least TRY to do your own thinking. You will never be good at it. You are too stupid but you can at least TRY.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pmTim Vaculik says:
You don’t even know the meaning of that word, chump. Besides, her “career” wasn’t one of a covert agent. How was her career “destroyed” ???
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You are a liar and a fool. Her employment record was read into the Congressional record. You are stupid and regurgitating rightwing talking points long ago PROVEN to be lies
July 14th, 2009 at 6:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Well, so much for Liz’s rationale for breaking the government. Not that such a feeble rationale would ever exhonorate Bush and Cheney of their obvious crimes.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pmTimmeh 29
You are a liar and a fool. You are so brainwashed it is pathetic read it and weep
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/updated 1:24 p.m. MT, Tues., May 29, 2007
WASHINGTON – An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame’s employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was “covert” when her name became public in July 2003.
The summary is part of an attachment to Fitzgerald’s memorandum to the court
Undercover travel
The unclassified summary of Plame’s employment with the CIA at the time that syndicated columnist Robert Novak published her name on July 14, 2003 says, “Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for who the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.”
The employment history indicates that while she was assigned to CPD, Plame, “engaged in temporary duty travel overseas on official business.” The report says, “she traveled at least seven times to more than ten times.” When overseas Plame traveled undercover, “sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.”
Now YOUR stupidity has been repeated quite often however anyone even slightly informed on this issue KNOWS the bilge you have been spilling is an outright lie. Only the stupidest and most brainwashed members of the Limborg hivemind are still ignorant of this well known FACT. That is because the Limborg doesnt care BEANS about facts and if it needs to be true for the propaganda then for them it becomes true for THAT REASON ALONE. Stop being so pathetic Timmeh
July 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
I see the facts about Ms. Plame are not of any use to you folks, but that’s not really a surprise!
Still no proof that you know better than the CIA, the U.S. attorney’s office and the congress of Plame’s employment status.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:56 pmTim you are a brain washed idiot…a total low life cretin who won’t know the facts if it sat in your lap and called you mama.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Only your “facts” Tim, only your “facts.”
July 14th, 2009 at 6:58 pmTim Vaculik
Still no proof. Afraid to admit you churned your “facts” out of a birther site?
July 14th, 2009 at 6:58 pmThere’s “opposing opinions” and then there are lies upon lies mixed in with the utter nonsense.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pmTim BSculik Babbles:
I see the facts about Ms. Plame are not of any use to you folks, but that’s not really a surprise!
You are beyond help; I am certainly not posting this for your education but for the benefit of others:
According to court documents (pdf) filed by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, Valerie Plame was a “covert” CIA employee when her name became public in July 2003. MSNBC reports that Fitzgerald made the claim in documents recommending that I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby be sentenced to 2.5-3.0 years in prison. The sentencing hearing is 5 June.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pmCIA: Plame Was “Covert”
We do welcome opposing opinions Tim. Just not the lies and stupidity that comes with it in your case.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Still no facts from Tim, but he’s making a lot of noise stroking his ego.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:01 pmAgain Timmeh you are a liar and a fool.
You are confusing her employment status with the actual job she was employed to perform. Had she actually been a “covert agent”, then Patrick Fitzgerald could have proceeded with criminal prosecution of Mr Armitage.
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First are you REALLY saying that the CIA has her classified as covert but since YOU say she isnt that means she isnt? My GOD you are stupid. Second there are many aspects he would have to prove other than her covert status which WAS PROVEN. The statute says the exposure must be intentional and that they had to KNOW she was covert. By YOUR standards there must have been no murders at the ST Valentines Day massacre since no one was prosecuted for them. WOW. Your capacity for self delusion is astonishing.
He did not and the reason was that her job at the CIA did NOT fall under the statute governing the release of covert agents’ identities.
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This is flat out wrong.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00000426—-000-.html
The term “covert agent” means—
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—
(
Her job summary CLEARLY shows she meets these qualifications you are repeating what you have been TOLD to believe like the good little propaganda parrot you are but you are FLAT OUT WRONG.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:01 pmTim BSculik Prattles:
The way I see it, I’m getting voted down just so you folks won’t be shown for the ignorant blow-hards you actually are.
If that’s the way you see it, you are wrong about that one too.
You are being voted down for not contributing anything positive, only lies, distortions, and already debunked claims. You do this routinely, regardless of whatever information is provided to you that proves you wrong.
In other words, you are being voted down for trolling.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:01 pmTim Vaculik says:
I see the facts about Ms. Plame are not of any use to you folks, but that’s not really a surprise
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You dont KNOW any facts about Valerie Plame you MORON. You only know the LIES the Limborg has programmed you with.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:02 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
I see the facts about Ms. Plame are not of any use to you folks, but that’s not really a surprise
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Welcoming an opposing opinion is one thing. Welcoming the long ago debunked LIES that are only retold by brainwashed morons is quite another
July 14th, 2009 at 7:04 pmIt’s more likely they’ll get read, sure, but it will come in handy to compress the length of threads exceeding 200 comments, which usually indicates troll infestation.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:05 pmSpeak for yourself, Timmeh. I have no desire to read hidden comments. I just assume they are lies and BS that’s better relegated to obscurity. Of course, your name on a post pretty much assures that anyway.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:05 pmOnce again KKKarl refuses to ignore the law which basically says that congress must be informed of the Activity`s going on in the secret world of intelligence gathering.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
What you dimwits haven’t figured out is that by voting down my comments you are actually INCREASING the times they get read.
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You WISH you moron. I almost NEVER check the deleted posts. Only when I am already spanking a moron who is getting deleted like THIS time
July 14th, 2009 at 7:06 pmYou didnt cover ANYTHING you liar. I SHOWED that she WAS covert according to the statute in question you are just too stupid to understand anything. That is why the Limborg does your thinking FOR YOU
July 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pmTim Vaculik says:
You folks sure like to declare any opinion you don’t share a “lie.”
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You are LYING. I showed that. You are a liar.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:08 pmtim, you have been proven wrong
you are just making a fool out of yourself by continuing
have a little pride in yourself
geez
July 14th, 2009 at 7:09 pm“There are points governed by law at which the executive branch is obligated to notify Congress of an anticipated intelligence activity,” said Vicki Divoll, a former deputy counsel to the CIA Counterterrorist Center who was general counsel of the Senate Intelligence Committee from 2001 to 2003.
“Even if arguably those points weren’t reached, the executive branch may not spend money developing a program if those funds had not been appropriated and authorized by Congress,” said Divoll, who teaches government at the U.S. Naval Academy.
Of course Cheney spent a certain amount of energy informing us that he wasn’t part of the executive branch – what branch was he a part of again?
July 14th, 2009 at 7:10 pmYou are lucky your posts are being raptured Timmeh. They only show how stupid and brainwashed you are. The proof is right there.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pmYou folks sure like to declare any opinion you don’t share a “lie.”
It’s no longer a matter of opinion when posters here have linked to the facts. You’re still at the stage of spewing your ingrained falsehoods *cough* opinions.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pmTim Vaculik Babbles:
The FACT of her employment was covered by law, but her ACTUAL JOB was not that of a covert agent, which has special protection under the law.
This makes no sense. Again, for the benefit of others:
The unclassified summary of Plame’s employment with the CIA at the time that syndicated columnist Robert Novak published her name on July 14, 2003 says, “Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for who the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.”[...]
July 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pmWhen overseas Plame traveled undercover, “sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.”
Plame was ‘covert’ agent at time of name leak
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lol, now tim is playing the ‘o poor me’ card
let’s all call whine wun wun and get poor little timmy his waaaambulance
don’t let the door hit ya on the way out, monkeybrain
July 14th, 2009 at 7:14 pmDon’t go away mad, Timmy, just go away…
July 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pmYour motivation for posting here is obvious Timmeh. You are a brainwashed moron who likes to spread lies. You have been PROVEN wrong and you continue to spew lies. The mindset any SANE person reading a thread like this will be astonished by is YOURS. Your inability to take in any FACT that disputes your programmed Limborg brainwashing. Your basic love of showing how stupid you are. How little you care about facts or reality and your comittment to pushing long ago debunked propaganda. You dont CARE if its true. You dont CARE what is real. If a lie better suits your agenda you tell it and continue to tell it after you have been PROVEN WRONG. Now THAT is a mindset any SANE psychology student could write a quality paper about
July 14th, 2009 at 7:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim, you’re still gonna need to post that link.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:20 pmTimmy wouldn’t know a fact if it him upside the head like a 2×4.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:21 pmTim, I’m sorry but I can’t buy that. If you’re going to make a claim, you have to cite the facts. Your “philosophical standpoint” won’t suffice.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:24 pmTimmeh FOR THE RECORD. YOU have been proven wrong here. PROVEN with links to unbiased sources that PROVE you are spewing lies. I have spanked you MANY times with more than personal attacks. You get spanked because you are stupid and repeat what you are TOLD to believe and that is often false. You dont CARE. You continue to BELIEVE you are right even when PROVEN wrong and to YOU that means we arent admitting we are wrong. How about like in this case. WE ARENT WRONG YOU ARE. This is simple. The Facts PROVE you to be wrong. YOU should be embarassed for being so stupid and brainwashed. When you just spew your programming and ignore the facts that PROVE you wrong you should EXPECT to be insulted. You do an awful lot of insulting yourself so your WWWWWAAAAAHHHHHH is just pathetic. Time to give up Timmeh. You really arent bright enought to play in this league. Stay away from Media Matter too they will eat your lunch. Better go find some shallow water to swim in
July 14th, 2009 at 7:25 pmTim Vaculik says:
THis more than anything has shown me the level of character of the majority or people who post here.
Yeah, we won’t put up with proven liars and those who come here to harass and annoy. Shameful!
July 14th, 2009 at 7:26 pmYou are more than entitled to your own opinions, Timmy, not your own facts.
You have been proven wrong, in this and other threads, over and over again.
It’s time for you to apologize for being so thick-skulled and retire to your bedroom. It’s way past your nappy time.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:29 pmHere are some FACTS Timmeh
1 Valerie Plame WAS COVERT
July 14th, 2009 at 7:34 pm2 You have been PROVEN wrong
3 You are a liar and sadly very brainwashed
Gregor Samsa
Not sure about his nap but I think it is time for Rush to tell him what he thinks today.
July 14th, 2009 at 7:35 pmEugeneDebs,
Heh -yep, it’s about time to get the new Limbaugh’s Talking Points Of The Day. One of which probably is that Sotomayor eats White children for breakfast, or something just as idiotic…
July 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pmI haven’t been paying attention to this story as closely as I should, but I just don’t understand all the whining from the left about this Cheney and intelligence BS.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that Cheney is part of Congress. There is no need to tell the others.
/snark off
July 14th, 2009 at 7:46 pmHey, I just realized another good use for the vote down option.
Any day I feel like I haven’t had my dose of CRAZY I can just edit the posts by most popular – and all the crazies will settle to the bottom.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:13 pmUnfortunately, it seems that even with the Vote Down feature, an industrious troll can still hijack a thread. Over 100 posts, and most of them are about Valerie Plame, who really has nothing to do with the original post. To me, this Cheney quote was chilling:
Seven little words that completely encapsulate the mindset of the Cheney/Bush administration. That sentence reeks of arrogance and hubris. It is the antithesis of the whole idea of representative democracy and shows total contempt for the Constitution. I can’t wait for AG Holder to name the special prosecutor.
P.S. to Tim Vacuous: It’s true that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It’s when you start insisting on living in your own reality that medical professionals need to become involved for your own safety.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:16 pmWhat the repugs’ fools seem to miss about the cia controlled under buckshot’s and his hit squad is that it doesn’t matter whether or not it was used…TAXPAYER’S MONEY was spent on chimpy’s cowboy, illegal whims and congress holds the purse strings.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pmI’m glad I don’t have to read stupid comments from timmeth or any other troll.
Why is the “vote up” not next to its count?
July 14th, 2009 at 8:30 pmSince the program was leaked to the Wall Street Journal by two
July 14th, 2009 at 8:33 pmformer intelligence officials, I sincerely hope they have some
kind of whistleblower protection.
Pals around with domestic terriers says:
True enough on both counts. Certainly it is frightening. It is the executive branch saying there is NO oversight function for Congress no role at all in fact. It is the executive branch claiming they are a dictatorship and NO ONE can tell them what they can and can not do. Pretty much the typical Bush administration arrogance.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:42 pmThe vote up/vote down system is a karma system. If the number displayed is positive, you have a net positive karma.
If you see a negative number, its a net negative karma number. At -10, you become a member of the Republican Party.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm‘TURD BLOSSOM’(ROVE), must be hearing the ‘FOOT STEPS’, of ‘PROSECUTION’.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:53 pmFrom Fitzgerald’s Sentencing Memorandum to Judge Walton:
(Source)
Suck it, troll.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:49 pmAfter Tim Vacuous said his comments get more reads because people can’t resist opening them to see what they say, I opened his comments JUST TO VOTE THEM DOWN AGAIN.
No idea what they said. ;)
July 14th, 2009 at 10:50 pmCan someone explain to me how come Cheney’s daughter knows so much about what happened ?
The only explanation I can see is if Cheney was divulging classified information to her. Information that was so classified that they couldn’t even be revealed to Congress.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:13 pmSmith added that the importance of informing Congress is because of the need for checks and balances.
It’s nice to know that at least *someone* in our government once took a US History lesson. Now if only Mr. Rove and Mr. Cheney had as well…
July 14th, 2009 at 11:35 pmMapleStreet says:
July 14th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Exactly. In addition, have any of the hosts put it together that Liz is ardently defending something that she shouldn’t know anything about (criminal), or she’s just a woman blindly defending her daddy, and therefore shouldn’t be getting all of this exposure. (Once again, ‘liberal MSM my arse!)
July 15th, 2009 at 12:42 am#59 Timmeh Vee
Good!
Then people can see how lame your comments are.
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:32 am#83 Timmeh Vee
To be a TROLL? Yea, what’s changed?
LOL professor…
… Do your students know who that TROLL Tim Vacuum-licker is?
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:41 am.
Dear Timmeh-Vee,
Reality is more than just T.V. game shows.
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:45 amSomeone please please please explain to me how this creature can ignore congressional subpoena’s out a CIA agent and still be free to walk the streets?
July 15th, 2009 at 7:10 amExcerpt From TP’s terms of use:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:37 pm