Comments on: Bill Kristol And Dennis Miller Think That Conservatives Should ‘Plant A Flag On The Phrase Progressive’

By: shediac

shediac — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:30:21 +0000

Please help to find!

Somewhere there is a video with Denis ‘the moron’ saying he doesn’t give a damn about Iraq he just wants cheep gas. So 4,000 plus brave Americans dead…Denis happy with gas prices?

By: Wiz

Wiz — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:41:36 +0000

This must be the Republican equilivent to coming out of the closet. Secret progressive. Kinky.

By: Frugalchariot

Frugalchariot — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:14:17 +0000

I suggest they “plant a flag” on the word ’stupid’ and fly it proudly.

By: UCSBKitty

UCSBKitty — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:46:44 +0000

What have conservatives progressed? Oh yeah, the pockets of the extremely wealthy…

By: pete

pete — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:57:01 +0000

Leave it to these morons to suggest such a thing and then use Bible Spice’s tortured syntax to make their point.

I’m not sure if anyone’s mentioned it but, according to CBS only 33% of Republicans, and 22% of the public at large, think Bible Spice is competent to be President.

Bloody Bill and Dennis can forget their wet dream of Sarah frolicking naked in the Oval Office. She’s a third stringer who’s potential has caught up with her.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:48:08 +0000

Well, shoot, boys and girls – maybe a word that rhymes will work for our fascist pals, you know, since they’re kinda simple and all:

They can be NOgressives.

By: cage free brown

cage free brown — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:30:33 +0000

well, in this economy, I’ve got to admire a couple of guys who can make a good living pulling funny balloon animals out of their butts for a living!

By: Virtual Pebble

Virtual Pebble — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:07:27 +0000

35. Gregor Samsa sez:

Given the current state of the alleged “conservatives” of the rePubs, the difference between reactionary fascist and conservative is pretty thin – ya might not be able to see any daylight between them so the fascist boyos are not an extreme case; they’re just the next seat over on the right.

On the other hand, the difference between a conservative Dem and a reactionary fascist is respectable gulf.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:03:58 +0000

You know the old saying, “If you can’t beat ‘em, steal their name.”

By: UCSBKitty

UCSBKitty — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:56:23 +0000

time to do the same to conservative…it should NOT be the honored term that the conservatives think it is…

By: Mike Hunt

Mike Hunt — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:46:10 +0000

Simple question…..when was the last time that Bill Kristol or Dennis Miller were correct about ANYTHING that slid out of their mouths??? Next.

By: MonkeyBoy

MonkeyBoy — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:41:32 +0000

As a child I overheard my father (a staunch Republican) use the phrase McKinley Progressive in a derogatory fashion, and while I had no idea of what he meant I thought is was sort of cool swear word. Occasionally afterward when he was taking about this politician or that I would ask if they were a McKinley Progressive. Sometimes he agreed and sometimes he told me I was off base or being obnoxious. I never figured out what the phrase meant to him.

Now that I can check Wikipedia I guess it may mean

1) RINO

2) The initial Progressive-Republican President, William McKinley whose Progressive philosophy eventually lead to the relinquishing control of the Presidency in 1912 to the Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

3) Teddy Roosevelt (he who must not be named) who became President upon McKinley’s assignation and was even more progressive. When he ran for a third term in 1912 and lost the primary to Taft, he formed the Bull Moose party which split the Republicans into Progressives and Conservatives which caused the Democrat Wilson win.

So my guess is that McKinley Progressive means something between not a true Republican, or not a true Conservative, or a traitor to Republicans and Conservatives.

Anyway McKinley Progressive seems to be a ‘curse word’ related to the loss of Republican power in 1912. I have no idea how my father picked up that term because he wasn’t even born then.

I hardly think it is a word the Conservatives can co-opt.

By: The Moderate Squad

The Moderate Squad — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:24:04 +0000

If I remember correctly, the English, Spanish, French and Dutch planted flags all over the U.S. before it was the U.S. Since they planted flags, by Kristol’s reasoning I guess they still own it.

By: Uncle Ho

Uncle Ho — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:20:28 +0000

tooneces post @ #24 should be the feature comment for this thread.
(:-D)

By: DRxJ

DRxJ — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:14:30 +0000

Who are these two “characters”?
I mean, I kind of remember this Miller dude, who was quite funny, albeit sometimes too intellectual for his audience (big words and all), on Saturday Night Live, but whose career plummeted drastically during the Monday Night Football fiasco?

But this Billy Kristol? Is he the one who starred in City Slickers and When Harry Met Sally?
Now he’s funny!

By: The Moderate Squad

The Moderate Squad — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:04:10 +0000

Not so bad an analogy at that, DRxJ.

By: DRxJ

DRxJ — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:02:04 +0000

Bill Kristol And Dennis Miller Think That Conservatives Should ‘Plant A Flag On The Phrase Progressive’

Well, of course they should, because Progressives where successful this last election.
Imitation is the best form of flattery.

By the same token, I think my beloved Lions (sad, but true) should change their uniforms to Black and Gold, just like the NFL champion Pittsburgh Steelers.
Oh sure, they’ll still stink to high heaven, but at least they’ll look like a football team!

Okay, really really bad analogy, but you get my drift.

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:59:46 +0000

Look at the mileage they’ve gotten from “compassionate conservatism”.

For folks that hate constructivist activities, they sure are into changing the meaning of the english language.

By: The Moderate Squad

The Moderate Squad — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:53:48 +0000

How is it that Miller will go after Beck (who seems to be on Goldberg’s publisher’s ad payroll given the number of times he plugs that steaming pile), but will sit there and let Kristol extoll the virtues of Bible Spice unchallenged? Miller used to have a pretty sharp sense of satire, but now that he’s come out of the closet as neoCon, he’s lost his balls. I didn’t agree with everything the guy ever said, but he used to at least try to make his commentary intelligent.

By: ralph the wonder locust

ralph the wonder locust — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:52:25 +0000

okie dokie says:
If Bill Kristol keeps trying to validate and intellectualize everything Sarah Palin says, he’s going to have a brain aneurysm.

… or at least an aneurysm in the space that his brain should occupy…