The day before the White House Correspondents dinner, Jamie Kirchick interviewed Meghan McCain for Out, largely focusing on her outspoken support of gay rights. During the interview, McCain took a crack at a man her father made famous during last year’s presidential campaign, Joe the Plumber:
Yet even as the balance begins to shift, the old guard is still yapping in the foreground. Shortly before McCain sat for this interview, Samuel Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber, gave an interview to Christianity Today in which he complained about “queers” and declared, “I wouldn’t have them anywhere near my children.” Unprompted, McCain rails against the man her father’s presidential campaign touted as an American everyman and made a showpiece in the weeks before the election. “Joe the Plumber — you can quote me — is a dumbass. He should stick to plumbing.”
Wurzelbacher later followed that comment up by saying, “Men kissing each other…it throws me off.” “It’s not something I want around my family,” he told a local ABC affiliate in Toledo, OH.
Wurzelbacher is a buffoon, typical of the repiggie intellectual capacity these days.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pm“Joe the Plumber — you can quote me — is a dumbass. He should stick to plumbing.”
And I never thought I would say this but I concur with Meghan on this one. But if only Joe would get his plumbing license and end his extended 15 minutes of fame.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pmWhy is this guy still in the news?
July 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pmAs Bart Simpson said after Lisa called Homer a Baboon. “Wow! Someone had to say it, I just can’t beleive it was her!”
July 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pmJoe is only a plumber when he’s horny.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:16 pmNot only is he a dumbass, but he is “queer.”
Check out this article to see what I mean. Hilarious.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=687
July 15th, 2009 at 8:16 pmIt’s so refreshing to learn that there’s at least one sane rational McCain in that family.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:21 pmKay@7, She is so rational, she should be a Democrat. Megan respects gay rights and is more Liberal than any Repug I now. Hell, even Palins son isn’t a Republican.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:25 pmMeghan McCain actually scares me. She can, at times, put together a coherent thought. I wonder if she will change parties when daddy dies?
July 15th, 2009 at 8:26 pmYes he is!!!!!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 8:26 pm. . . so is Sarah Palin.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:31 pmThanks for the effort, Meghan, but you really aren’t going to have any effect on the hardcore wingnuts — like your dad.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:32 pmMegan is great. I’m sure she regrets becoming a republican for her birthday as a gift to her father!
July 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pmlooking thoughtful for a photo looks painful for Joe
July 15th, 2009 at 8:34 pmJoe smokes plumber’s crack.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:34 pmCircling today in my diary – “Today I agreed with a statement made by a McCain.”
But SammyJoe isn’t just a dumbass, he’s a very dangerous and very public dumbass with a microphone. Just like Flamin’ Flailin’ Palin.
PEACE
July 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pmBruno! Where are you when we need you?
July 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pmCan we be honest about this? About what it is exactly that Mr Wurzelbacher fears? Like most heterosexual homophobes, he is afraid that if he bends over in front of a gay man, that gay man will, because he supposedly can’t help himself, rape him. It goes without saying, though some need to hear it, that this is just as likely as one of his own heterosexual friends doing the same thing to his wife if she bent over in front of him. It is incredibly ignorant, and actually says a lot more of the guy who thinks this way than his blatant homophobia does. It is quite possible that he is very insecure in his own masculinity, or worried that his wife might be cheating on him. They may or may not apply to Mr. Wurzelbacher, I have no proof one way or the other. But it would certainly explain some things. I’ll apply Occam’s Razor on this.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:44 pmJoe seems to have quite a few male/male rape fantasies.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:46 pmI just had my home entirely re-plumbed by professionals. They
July 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pmdid an outstanding job and put to an end years of problems.
To equate them, in any way, with this hacker, is an insult
to their skill and dedication. Let’s please refrain from
identifying this doofus as a tradesman in the same way we can refrain from calling Hannity a patriot.
I thought I had heard the last of Joe who WISHES he were a plumber.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmSorry, but I get the impression that Ms. McCain was merely playing to the audience at hand. Sorry to be so cynical, but she’s a McCain…and I just don’t trust her.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pmJoes a dumbass, yes we knew that a long time ago. Joe is so outspoken about gays that I think hes a little insecure with his own sexuallity.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:59 pmbarracks9 says:
Sorry, but I get the impression that Ms. McCain was merely playing to the audience at hand. Sorry to be so cynical, but she’s a McCain…and I just don’t trust her.
We’ve come to a sad state is merely not being a homophobe qualifies a person as sane or intelligent. Ditto someone being able to recognize a buffoon when they see one.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pmAm I the only one who thinks she may have voted for Obama?
July 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pmNow there’s a face that deserves a teabagging if I ever saw one…
July 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pmblue state bob says:
Am I the only one who thinks she may have voted for Obama?
Probably you are.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pmDumb to allow himself to get used by one of the self-serving John McCain family.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:08 pmI caught Meghan on Bill Maher a few weeks ago. Her ACT is getting tired. She’s trying to be hip and relate to the “younger” generation of republicans. Yeah, who can’t relate to the daughter of a woman worth over 400m and a U.S. Senator?
Not only does she have a brain the size of a pea, she’s totaly intellecutaly dishonest.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:13 pmDoc: now that SamJoe the non-plumber’s 15 minutes of fame has stretched into about an hour and a half, I bet he’d let himself be used like that all over again…
You know, sorta like a cracked-up streetwalker who just needs the next fix and will let some old wrinkled — [ahem] John — do whatever he wants just so she’ll get paid?
July 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm..
so megan votes down joe.
cool.
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:17 pm…
megan = meghan
:::
July 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
…
i didn’t know it,
so it’s news.
…
what else is on your mind?
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:21 pmAnd that’s usually the case with most bigoted right wingers!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Minus,
“Coming from a proven hypocrite that’s rich!”
If your talking about Meghan, I agree.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:27 pmI have to give this repubs daughter credit. Unlike Dicks daughter Liz, Meghan doesn’t mind opening up a can of whup ass on her fellow repubs once in awhile.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hey Minus, I’ve got an idea for you. Why don’t you go through the thread and give everyone a down vote?
Oh, you’ve already done that. Never mind.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
You go, girl!!!!
(Now, if you just stay here with the rest of us sane people in Reality World, I hold out hope for you!)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pm…
voted down…
poor joe.
poor minus.
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pm…
irrelevant?
you’re here,
aren’t you?
>>>
or is that “news” to you too?
:)
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Minus 5 says:
joe cantwell says:
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megan = meghan
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July 15th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
July 15th, 2009 at 9:32 pm…
your turn.
:)
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pmThe kicker to not-Joe-not-the-plumber’s fame is that if any Republican reviewed the initial tape showing Joe with then-candidate Obama, he/she would have to agree that Obama gave Joe an amazing amount of time, thoughtfulness and consideration in addressing Joe’s concerns.
As if McCain or Bush or any neocon would do likewise with someone who didn’t tow the party line.
Somehow, that respect got lost in the nonsense that has allowed this idiot waaaaaay more than his 15 minutes.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pmI don’t know, Rich H,(#29). Maybe Megan had an “Ahah moment” when she was on Real Time.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pmShe said she was nervous when she first came on.
Bill and the panel treated her like they would any other guest capable of independent thought.
She mignt decide it’s more fun to hang out with the cool people outside the box.
It’s definately better than living under the stairs with her sister waiting for the next photo op.
…
c’mon minus,
don’t palin on
us now…
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pmI think I know why SamJoe the non-plumber is such a homophobe:
Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?
And despite Ms. McCain having the occasional progressive thought, she’s still regressive at heart.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pmokie dokie,
Prior to Meghans appearance on Maher she hit the talk show circuit. She was on (probably) a few dozen shows prior to her appearance perfecting her:
“I don’t know I wasn’t born yet.”
However, on Maher, not only was she exposed for the phony she is, this snide remark just oozed “p.o.s.” from every poor.
The comeback was the best:
“I wasn’t born during the French Revolution, but I know about it.”
Put her right in her place. She’s such a phony.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pmfrankly, it’s another pot/kettle think, far as i’m concerned…
she’s a complete ditz, who gets by with her looks and sexuality…
the 2 interviews i’ve seen were embarrassing…
sorry, but she’s another sara mcquitter… another user…
she might have some basic human rights down correctly,
but don’t be fooled…
i hope i’m more wrong as she grows up…
July 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pmmaybe she’s on the right path…
Is this (similar to Rush L) gonna start a string of people speaking against Joe only to appear before Joe the Pontif to ask forgiveness 24 hours later ?
July 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pmAnd meg you are still a teabagger. Joe doesn’t do plumbing.
And your daddy set Sen. Obama up by planting sammy at a Obama stop over. You know it and we know it.
And there’s still isn’t a single repug I like.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pmRich H @ 51
Yeah, that was great. And I wish I could have told her that, myself.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:52 pmBut you have to pity her growing up in a parrot cage, though it be guilded.
Let’s see. That’s 15 minutes of fame for Joe (extended) and 15 minutes for her. Even if you combine the two of them isn’t 30 minutes far too many for these two people to miss the exit signs which are all around them?
July 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pmI’m not so sure, katy. Not that I think she has displayed any particular intellectual brilliance. I have a feeling that the young Ms. McCain will eventually split from the GOP by her own decision or by being cast out.
In her own ditzy way she has drifted away from the party line a few times. She’s one of the few Republicans who even admits her party is in trouble and I find that refreshing. I don’t recall her saying anything terribly distasteful. As long as she isn’t running for office I’m willing to give her a pass.
Although she would have a lot more credibility with me if she stopped saying Sarah Palin is “smart”!
July 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pmpot/kettle thing… thing.
yes, rich, it was on real time… that was the worst…
i LOVED when begala shot back with the french revolution line…
she needed that.
she was on colbert (or was it letterman?) before that…
she came out with her sexual “openness”, giggled, and squeeled,
“oh my god! my dad’s going to see this! oh no!”
as. if.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pmokie dokie,
I guess I could pity her if she ever had to work for a living and had to figure out how to survive on her wits. It’s not easy, especially if you don’t have any.
Alas, since she obviously “attended” (I mean who knows how many classes she had to go to) college, and has more money than she could spend in this lifetime – and will probably never Work a Day in Her Life.
That and the fact she’s trying to make the most criminally corrupt Presidency appealing to the uber cool young republicans – so it’s bound to be repeated.
I think I’ll withhold my pity.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pmRich H says:
okie dokie,
Prior to Meghans appearance on Maher she hit the talk show circuit. She was on (probably) a few dozen shows prior to her appearance perfecting her:
“I don’t know I wasn’t born yet.”
However, on Maher, not only was she exposed for the phony she is, this snide remark just oozed “p.o.s.” from every poor.
The comeback was the best:
“I wasn’t born during the French Revolution, but I know about it.”
Put her right in her place. She’s such a phony.
HAHAHAHAHAHA I saw that too. She looked as if she was gonna cry.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pmHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pete @57
She said Sarah Palin was smart?
After the election?
July 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pmwe’ll see, pete…
it’s a chick thing… we all know the type… all the types…
i’ll give her more credit than most Rs…
my daughter, same age, watched maher with me that night… she saw through her right away, and my daughter is very NOT political…
we’ll see…
July 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pmJoe Cantwell,
I’ve got to give you credit. You totally scared Minus 5 off the thread. Here I am waiting for M5’s return and it’s just not happening.
I’m amazed that all it took was you asking him to participate.
Participation doesn’t float much among the right wingers.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm“Joe the Plumber — you can quote me — is a dumbass.”
Believe me, we will.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pmI think Meghan is trying to get her dad re-elected.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:13 pmAfter raising my own kid’s in a red state, I’ve taken it upon myself to open their friends eyes to a little political truth, in subtle liberal kind of way.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:13 pmSo that mom instinct kicks in when I see Meghan McCain. She needs to be saved.
. ; ;
rich,
minus is a coward.
general george s. patton once compared cowards to horse manure.
the general commented, “cowards are a good deal like horse manure.”
* * *
i pity minus.
i really do.
:|
July 15th, 2009 at 10:13 pmNow that I think about it I don’t recall when I saw the sound byte, okie dokie. It was some time ago but, I think, after the election. I’ll provide a link if I stumble across it.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pmI totally LOVED it when lil’ Meghan got her a$$ handed to her on Maher’s show! ROTFL!
July 15th, 2009 at 10:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim,
You felt the need to post this on all (o.k. I didn’t check them all) the open threads?
July 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pmTim Vaculik says: You agree to:
• Respect other Bloggers – please do not threaten, insult, abuse, intimidate or harass other Blog users.”
How ’bout plain ol’ ignorning.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:27 pmI wouldn’t want Joe W. around my children.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:32 pmSo we can quote her? Cool!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 10:32 pm. . .
tim,
are you a “vic-tim”?
?
:) :0 :)
July 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pmSo Joe is an in the closet homosexual?
It is a proven fact that fully heterosexual men are not threatened by being around gay men. Only men that fear their sexuality and their gayness care if other men are gay.
It is OK Joe, you can come on out of that closet, we won’t judge you.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:37 pmPart of that Maher show can be seen here:
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/real-time-paul-begala-schools-meghan
July 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm. . ..
tim?
tim…?
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 10:43 pmDespite sipping Drano Joe has a clogged drain in the brain pan.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:45 pmWell he’s not really a plumber.
Maybe he just has plumber fantasies.
“Assume the position, Joe.”
July 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pmKeith,
Thanks for posting that. Another thing I remember about that show was how “handsy” Maher was, and maybe it was my imagination, but I thought he had a hard time (trying not to be obvious) “not” looking at her chest.
Sad and funny, all at the same time.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:55 pmI noticed it too, Rich. I’m wondering if there was an after-party…….
July 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pmMs. McCain’s comment is steeped in irony given her exchanges with Paul Begala on Real Time.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:06 pmAnd Joe is the Poster Boy for the GOP?
Why am I not surprised???
Let me know when his IQ gets into double digits, then I will be worried.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:06 pm. .. …
ot,
you ought to see this trailer.
thank you.
:)
July 15th, 2009 at 11:13 pmThe repiggies are truly the Party of Stupid.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pmMs. McCain, you’re both dumbasses. Joe’s just from a different (lower) class than you.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pmIs she going to have to apologize to Rush?
July 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pmSam isn’t a plumber, shouldn’t be allowed to operate a motor vehicle, and is a danger to humanity. Yours and mine.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:18 pm. … …. .l.
remember,
when you ask yourself,
“what has john mccain ever done for me?”
think of “joe the plumber”.
’nuff said.
:)
:0 :)
July 15th, 2009 at 11:19 pmJebus. Joe the Moron looks like a kewpie doll.
Ick.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
. . .
have you been drinking?
:|
July 15th, 2009 at 11:40 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
* * *
joe has fleas.
you have fleas.
go forth and be happy.
:)
> . .
July 15th, 2009 at 11:52 pmIs this suppose to lend credit to what we have known and said all along?
July 15th, 2009 at 11:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Meghan, for all of her faults, understands the current situation.
All she needs to do is say “Joe the Plumber is a dum bass’ and a sizeable chunk of Democrats high-five her and think she’s pretty.
How to reconstitute the Republican Party? Meghan gets it. Not that it’s rocket surgery.
Start sprinkling the medis of the next few years a few more Meghan McCains, saying the obvious, ridiculing both the Palin/Wurzelbacher/teabagger crew and the Gingrich/Sessions geezers, and presto! the New Republicans®!
This is going to happen.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:06 am…
the better to measure your dick.
:)
July 16th, 2009 at 12:07 amwhat i’m worried about, pbeeg…
well, one of the things…
…
g’nite all…
paul mccartney on david letterman…
:-)
July 16th, 2009 at 12:17 amoh – it should be said:
he will be playing outside on the top of the marquee
of the Ed Sullivan Theater.
cool.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:19 amOld Sam Joe’s folks must be so proud of their forty something still trying to find himself…
July 16th, 2009 at 12:22 am…
slappy?
slaaaaapeeeeee…?
*
“fleas”
:)
July 16th, 2009 at 12:23 amAs I recall, Joe/Sam was lamenting that he couldn’t afford to buy the company he worked for, even though he didn’t have any money, and had never discussed the option of buying the company from the owner with the money he didn’t have.
A complete and utter fraud. And Sam/Joe, move back to Arizona and surrender to the Sherrif.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:41 am3, 2, 1…that’s it!
JTP’s 15 minutes of fame are now up.
Back to real, hard worked obscurity and begging local Ohio neocon radio hacks for attention, Joe. Say hi to Ensign for me at the Sizzler!
July 16th, 2009 at 12:42 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hi maasanova…
July 16th, 2009 at 1:22 am.
Dear Sam,
Meghan McCain said you’re a dumb ass who should stick to being a Joe plumber/country singer/writer/political pundit/tax-dodger/correspondent/anti unionist/Republican quitter that you are.
I like Meghan for this.
Oh, I see Sarah’s third Party dreams already…
… Palin/
WurzelbacherJoe 2012?YES?
July 16th, 2009 at 1:50 amLike someone else already postulated, she’ll switch parties when the old man croaks.
July 16th, 2009 at 4:47 amNow there’s an intriguing topic for research: how many right-wingers secretly think all the other right-wingers are for the birds? To what extent do conservatives gove one another the creeps?
The ongoing squabbles from our verbally incontinent friends on the right suggest they hate one another as much as anybody does. This, together with the right’s repressed gayness, dislike of women, and squeamishness about sex, makes one wonder how they reproduce.
Reminder: visualize Rush Limbaugh’s kidneys failing:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:01 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rOSR-QYjpE
Because that’s what he is.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:23 amFor the record…
How is Joe to “stick to plumbing”?
He wasn’t a “plumber” to begin with:
July 16th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Didn’t Joe the Plumber drop out of the republic party recently? I bet Sarah Palin wants to form a new political party with him. Oh gawd I hope so! It will be a laugh-a-minute!
July 16th, 2009 at 8:08 amSo what does Joe the Plumber do anyway? He is not licensed, His bid to be a reporter for “Pajama News” (I think that was the name of the Right-wing rag) failed miserably. He seems to drift from job to another. Palin and Joe are great role models. ‘How you can succeed with no talent and intellegence.’ Should be their motto.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:16 amI first heard this quote on Morning Joe when Willie Geist does News You Can’t Use. I almost fell off my chair with laughter. I’m so glad someone from the McCain camp said this. When I hear the likes of Laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck (and the list goes on) singing his praises.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:44 ammeghan really should keep her mouth shut.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:04 amMeghan McCain is one of the few people in the Republic party that hasn’t completely lost her mind.
July 16th, 2009 at 10:36 amI wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she actually votes Democratic.
Meghan McCain: “The sky — you can quote me — is up.”
July 16th, 2009 at 10:52 amFirst Palin, then Joe the Plumber, wanted to stay in Iraq for the next 100 years, ” Which internet” when asked about fundraising,,,,,,,,,……..uhmmm why did McSame looooooose
July 16th, 2009 at 11:38 amMeghan McCain was not groomed to be politically active other than to help with her father’s campaign. I doubt if anyone is helping her with her public speaking engagements. I am sure that with enough coaching, she would outshine Palin. At least, Meghan has thought through some of her positions. She just needs help in being able to better articulate her beliefs.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:49 amI don’t think Meghan could ever run as a Republican, especially as it becomes a regional party behind Palin. Maybe she could be the force behind a powerful independent party.
July 16th, 2009 at 12:23 pm“Palin/Wurzelbacher 2012: an express train full of things designed to hurt your mind. Coming soon to an insane asylum near YOU!”
July 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pmwhat family is joe the plumber talking about? Last i heard he was single with no kids. Although, maybe he lives in a weird fantasy world, where his name is really joe, he has a plumber’s license and has a bunch of kids that he needs to keep the queers away from.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pmAnd I wouldn’t want brainless, racist, biased Joe around my family.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pmThat picture of Joe sure is….well….looks gay to me.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pmJoe the Plumber is a constructive member of our society –IN OTHER WORDS –HE WORKS FOR A LIVING, unlike you nuthead liberals who are on your lifetime disabilities for marijuana addiction or a hangnail. You’re spoiled brats, demanding to suckle from the Govt. teat from the womb to the tomb. Meanwhile we conservatives have to figure out how to pay for your massive appetites–how about this — GET A JOB.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pmOh Meg, Joe can’t do plumbing. He just got mistaken for a plumber when he was seen crawling out of a sewer.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pm#129 – Baloney says:
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“Joe the Plumber is a constructive member of our society –IN OTHER WORDS –HE WORKS FOR A LIVING”
July 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Maybe he should go back to his job, and quit trying to keep his 15 minutes of fame from ending. Why do right-whiners never shut up when nobody wants to hear them or their opinions??
If only these right-whiners would actually do a full days work rather than pontificating about how only they can save America from the national debt they more than doubled in 8 years, maybe we wouldn’t be in the financial hole that they led us into.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:04 pmIt goes without saying, though some need to hear it, that this is just as likely as one of his own heterosexual friends doing the Sohbetsame thing to his wife if she bent over in front of him. I doubt if anyone is helping her with her public speaking engagements.It is incredibly ignorant, and actually says a lot more of the guy who thinks this way than his blatant homophobia does.youtube
July 20th, 2009 at 7:00 pm