Black Chamber of Commerce CEO accuses Barbara Boxer of racism.
Black Chamber of Commerce CEO accuses Barbara Boxer of racism.
In a Senate Environment and Public Works Committee hearing today, National Black Chamber of Commerce CEO Harry Alford accused Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) of being a racist. Alford, an opponent of the American Clean Energy and Security Act, attacked Boxer for being “racial” when she cited the NAACP’s support of clean energy and climate legislation. Saying he took “offense as an African American and a veteran,” he asked why she didn’t quote an “Asian” instead:
All that’s condescending, and I don’t like it. It’s racial. I don’t like it. I take — I take offense to it. As an African-American and a veteran of this country, I take offense to that. You’re quoting some other black man — why don’t you quote some other Asian or some — I mean, you’re being racial here. And I think you’re getting on a path here that’s going to explode, in the Post.
Watch the exchange:
Alford, whose organization has received at least $275,000 from ExxonMobil, spoke on behalf of the “black community” in his opening statement. As Boxer noted, it seems “relevant” that other organizations with “a deep understanding” of the “black community,” such as NAACP and 100 Black Men of Atlanta see the threat of global warming and the opportunity in a clean energy future.
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Let me get this straight… he is calling her racist, because she quoted a different black person?
July 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pmThat is just fooking ridiculous… what drugs are Alford taking to make himself so delusional?
Harry Alford sounds like Michael Steele — in over his head. At least he caught himself with his “Asian” remark as undercutting his point. Maybe Alford needs to question why it is necessary to have a separate but equal black Chamber of Commerce where he can be used.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pmAlford is a good little repiggie, and was trotted out by the nervous repiggie white guys in the Senate just to show how “racially enlightened” the repiggies are.
Just listening to Alford made me feel embarrassed for him.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm“You’re quoting some other black man — why don’t you quote some other Asian or some”
Excuse me, but how is this NOT racist?
July 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pmThis is touchy. Bur Boxer is one of the most Liberal members of the Senate. Calling her a racist is not espousing his cause.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pmNothing like a huge check from Exxon to help form an opinion. Love how throwing some racism in there helps deflect from the fact that the man is bought and paid for by Big Oil.
PEACE
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Harry Alford = Daryll?
July 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pmAlford is making a big mistake throwing the racism card. Just a couple of weeks ago, a few miles from my house, Young Black and Hispanics kids were basically kicked out of a swim club because “They changed the ‘complexion’ of the club. Now THAT is racism. This guys rant was Big Business stamping their feet because of Clean Energy. Alford is hurting people who are the real victims of racism.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pmI would vote down LookfortheHills, but I’d have to understand his/her statement first.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pmLet me get out my decoder ring.
tony and lido
Another Repignofascist reveals how completely removed from reality he really is. I wonder if he thinks this comment is “racial” also? Would he have claimed that Boxer made a “racial” comment if she had quoted the Mormon Tabernacle Choir? They seem to all be white.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pmOy, that’s spooky.
Hi Daryll, you self-hating black man!
July 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pmWhen did she say we all look alike?
July 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pmtony and lido
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Graham was right – Republican stupidity is not just for white guys any more.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pmlooktothehills says:
You want to hang and whip me dontsya sir!
July 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Leave your sex life out of this, Daryll.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
But to your way “thinking”, it’s OK for Alford to claim he was peaking for “the black community?” That’s a stupid contention, even for a neoCon…
July 16th, 2009 at 5:55 pmAlfred overreacted and I don’t see racial motivation or racial conflict with what she said.
to Wayne @ 1
July 16th, 2009 at 5:55 pmHe didn’t call Boxer a “racist” he called her comments “racial.” There two different meanings.
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Yer an idiot drywall. Alford can speak for all AA’s but the NAACP can’t? Why are you hiding behind race? Is it because you don’t have a better argument?
July 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pmI thought he was getting out of his chair to go and kick her ass. He sure did get a little hot under the collar,I watched the clip twice and I still dont understand why he was so pissed off. I like the fact that Boxer remained cool the whole time.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pmOur little evangelical trolly roller is quite busy today, fighting off all the heathens
July 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pmand sounding the trumpet of righteousness.
Tell me, TPers, is this Daryll’s first adventure into the new world of vote downs?
What a rude awakening he’s in for.
PEACE
July 16th, 2009 at 6:01 pmAlford sounded ridiculous in front of Senator Boxer. Boxer countering with testimony with support from another group that represents blacks that is relevant and not racist.
Now, I have to ask Alford why his organization was happy to collect a donation from ExxonMobil [one of the biggest polluters in this country and biggest robbers in profits right next to Wall Street]in a heartbeat. Alford is an opponent of the American Clean Energy and Security Act yet NAACP supports the act. It doesn’t take a rocket science to figure it out that we still have a division in this country and these two organization representing blacks. This is a prime example: Two different organizations on two different sides. One black organization is doing the dirty work for the oil companies to continue to reap profits. The other black organization isn’t.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:02 pmUmmm, what’s the name of his organization? The Chamber of Commerce? No, the BLACK Chamber of Commerce.
Isn’t that a little racial singling yourself out like that? No, it identifies your group with people of common interests and concerns.
He’s pulling a Rove!
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Drywall says:
When was the last time that Congress and the Black Caucus came to a consensus? What a racist party. Liberals, the white meat
1- Congress has at least 3 parties, idiot.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:04 pm2-Your strawman is pathetic, even by your standards. What does the Black Caucus and consensus and why should we answer your lame, pointless question?
3-Liberals come in all hues, and we’re more than meat. idiot.
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According to the link, Boxer was citing a joint NWF/NAACP resolution. The National Wildlife Federation’s ‘Fair Climate Project’ also names the Women’s Environment and Development Organization as a partner.
I bet Alford didn’t like this paragraph in the resolution…assuming he even read it:
BE IT THEREFORE RESOLVED THAT, the NAACP will call on our nation’s elected leaders to ensure that the response to climate change can take a higher ground than business as usual – one that ensures that we capture real public benefits from the new energy economy;
July 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pmOur little trolly roller is typical of the disease infecting the repiggie ranks.
His crowd has destroyed whatever credibility that party ever had.
The “Gentle Jesus, meek and mild” stuff has been thrown off the cart.
The holy rollers are mad as hornets, that intelligent people don’t buy their crap.
Notice how our little trolly roller hurls out insult and indulges in name-calling.
Would Jesus behave like this, trolly roller?
Beware the sin of pride, trolly roller.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pmlooktothehills:
Racial: arising, occurring, or existing because of differences between races or racial attitudes: racial conflict; racial motivations
Racist: hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Alfred was completely wrong and used a poor choice of words. In my opinion Boxer was using good politicking skills to gain more votes (as all politicians) for the climate bill and there was nothing wrong with that.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:08 pmlooktothehills says:
Look, since you can’t comprehend, I will splain’ it to you. He was speaking on behalf of Black business owners who are members of the NBCC, not the the entire dark-toned populist. Jesus dislikes the behavior of those who bear false witness.
1-Boxer was quoting a much larger group of AAs who disagree with your Uncle Tom Alford.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:08 pm2-Using the Ricky Ricardo “splain” is pretty racist of you.
3-Why are you bearing false witness against Jesus?
looktothehills says:
It is to be expected, since people who support Democrats lack the aptitude to observe many points of view.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Wow. The pot calls the kettle black.
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Every minority group has these few for money.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pmMr. Cobb says:
Every minority group has these few for money.
You mean uncle toms? In south africa this clown would be marched through town with a burning tire hung around his neck.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pmApparently Alford forgot the NAACP’s famous expression.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pmlooktothehills, why don’t you look to the hills in Iran?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pmThe Moderate Squad says:
“Let’s make sure that we let the whole country know the Republican party is not just a party of short white guys.” – Lindsey Graham
Graham was right – Republican stupidity is not just for white guys any more.
Yeah right. the old white stupid repug club is still the old white stupid repug club.
Just because there are jimmies on the vanilla ice cream doesn’t make it vanilla ice cream and jimmies, it makes it vanilla ice cream with jimmies.
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At which holy roller diploma mill is our little trolly roller a student?
Liberty, Bob Jones, Regent?
Inquiring minds want to know.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pmThen apparently you’ll be attending Satan’s post-Apocalypse weiner roast. As the weiner…
July 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pmWhy did he say he was speaking on behalf the the Black community when the NAACP is against the position he’s taking?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pmkwsventures says:
Note to all: Exxon Mobil pays billions in taxes to the Feds which in turn throw lots of that money down the sinkhole. I always get a good laugh at the stupidity of going after companies that pay a massive amount of taxes. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you.
I’m just curious, who is your fav limpydic or mooseyak?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pmAwwwww, I think Daryll is ignoring me.
Win!!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pmYou’re a dumbass.
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looktothehills says:
First AA Supreme Court Justice: Clarence Thomas (Conservative).
And I thought the first African-American Supreme Court Justice was Thurgood Marshall (Progressive).
If you are going to lie, then at least try not to be so stupid about it.
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That’s a racist statement. We help people in need no matter what color they are.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pmGame of Life @ #41: OK, I stand corrected…
July 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pmIf you must know, Oral Roberts 04′.
I always get a chuckle out of that name. I always have images of what goes on at night in the men’s dorms!
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looktothehills, those “hills,” in geological time, are probably billions of years old unless mountain-top removal.
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The little trolly roller today might want to get off this blog, and go out among the poor and the needy, to truly do the work of the Lord.
So many good people have been put off religion, thanks in great part to the smarmy self-righteous stormtroopers of the religious right, such as our little
trolly roller.
I find it ironic that someone who claims to want to empower racial minorities is a member of a party that still has no problem with racist jokes about our President’s
parents. That party showed us Obama dolls with a noose, Obama pancake mix
and many other “distinguished” examples of repiggie racism.
Stop yapping about your moral outrage, little holy roller, and try to go out and put your faith into action, if you still remember what Christianity purports to be.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pmI stand corrected. He was the second AA SCJ. Based on history, I do believe that Thurgood Marshall was a Conservative, as well.
What are you smoking? He was one of the lawyers that won the case of Brown vs. The Board of Education of Topeka. That is a real conservative resume builder. Dumba$$
July 16th, 2009 at 6:23 pmThe Black Chamber of Commerce is the Steppinfetchit of the Republic Party. They aren’t welcome in the regular Chamber of Commerce, so they form their own group, but, still carry water for their party, and don’t even recognize the fact that they’re being used and abused.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pmlooktothehills
You are an ignorant a$$.
Alfred+Steele=reverse racism
Alfred won’t have a job soon, “you betcha”
And I admire Boxer for quoting “100 Black Men of Atlanta” for throwing their support behind the Climate Bill as well as the NAACP.
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Just because they pay taxes doesn’t tell you anything about what the company is doing or if it is good, bad or indifferent. Would you continue to accept food from someone if you had reason to believe it was poisoned?
Seems like a good time to bite the hand…
July 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pmJesus hears you, so be careful about making false comments to support your political agenda
You mean the way the Barbaric War Criminals Bush/Cheney did?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pmObviously your party is really into quantity rather than quality and really interested in pushing tokenism in all its forms…since you mentioned it, let’s look at your examples–this is not a complete analysis btw, but it will do…
Clarence Thomas: Renown Sexual Harasser AKA: Bump on the log of the Supreme Court, in other words, useless as a Justice
Condoleeza Rice: Liar to Congress and various others, enabler of Illegal War
Alberto Gonzales: Torture Guy
Colin Powell: Lied At U.N. on Feb 5, 2003 to aid Bush Cheney’s illegal war.
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July 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pmP.S. Kookinthehills:
“liberals”:
Barrack Hussein Obama: FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
You Really Cannot Top THAT!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pmlooktothehills says:
…dark-toned populist.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
It’s sad that Daryll hates himself so much.
“Populist?” I think you mean population. Duh.
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looktothehills says:
Based on your screen name, I know that sin is in your camp!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
ranus69 is sinful?
Daryll, can you explain this to me? I’m just not getting it.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pmDrywall at 42:
Yer all over the place idiot. I responded to your post. you keep flinging shit hoping something will stick. You misrepresent my post and then rail against it. Jesus would call that bearing false witness, and he’s getting really pissed at you. really. he just told me. And he asked me to tell you he wants his gameboy back.
ps. Marshall was the first AA supreme court justice.
Condie was also the first Secertary of State to have an oil tanker named after her, andthe first SofS to have an afair with her boss
Powell is no longer a member of the republican party (ask rush)
July 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pmpastcaring, it’s too bad I can only recommend you once for #70…
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Zooey says:
Awwwww, I think Daryll is ignoring me.
Win!!
I thought Daryll was going away for 40 days and 40 nights to pray the Obama, gays, socialists, unweds and just about anyone else who didn’t heed the prayer warrior way away.
Oh wait, doesn’t the prayer warrior way also involve eating spaghetti, getting high on Cheetos dust and drinking gallons Mountain Dew?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pmlooktothehills says:
I stand corrected, again.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I knew you hated yourself, Daryll.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pmlooktothehills says:
I stand corrected, again.
If you had gone to a real university, you might not be wrong so often. It’s that whole education thing that idiots like you just don’t get.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHey looktothehills: what do you call 2 gay guys named Bob?
Hint: you graduated from there in ‘04…
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Thank you…btw, i’m having so much fun voting a certain someone we know, down…whoever introduced the vote down really needs a million votes up…
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July 16th, 2009 at 6:35 pmAlso, 100 dark-toned men do not represent this cultural group.
Huh, Is it fair to say that Democrats received around 95% of this cultural groups votes in the last national election? And that Barbara Boxer received a majority of this cultural groups votes in her last election in 2004? And that votes are at least some indicator of the preferences and opinions of any cultural group?
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Zooey says:
ranus69 is sinful?
Daryll, can you explain this to me? I’m just not getting it.
I’m guessing drywall is making the leap of connecting “anus” and “69″…
July 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pmKeep in mind that in drywall’s world, he’s pure of thought and you’re a filthy harlot or something…
looktothehills says:
Ranus69 = Our anus 69. Hell is real!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Daryll, you have a dirty f ucking mind!
I heard that ranus69 ran across the US, and he’s 69 years old.
SHAME ON YOU!
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looktothehills says:
No professional is perfect. We are fallible.
It seems some more than others. My only question is “professional what?” TROLL? I don’t think you could do anything else
July 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pmlooktothehills says:
Unqualified token.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Daryll, you are a racist.
Jesus is listening!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pmI’m black, and this fool doesn’t represent my views. He’s in the same category with me as Blackwell and Steele.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pmBTW, I made Daryll respond to me.
Ultimate win!!
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Drywalls says:
Please review your post. And you are calling me the liar?
Yes, i am calling you a liar. you are a fraud. you are a sodomite. you are a fake christian. you are a running dog lackey for the bourgeois,
July 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pmlooktothehills
Based on your screen name, I know that sin is in your camp! Also, 100 dark-toned men do not represent this cultural group. BarbaraKKK is a racist.
Good lawd, your not even worth my keystroke. Come outta those hills and meet me in the bathroom and tap your feet 3 times and I’ll show you how sinful I can be. I’m done with you, your a moot case.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pmThanks Zooey.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pmlooktothehills, we’re undeterred. Seem to be making progress with the political make up of things so far. But it takes time with the electoral process.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Harry Alford, living proof that asshattery knows no racial boundaries.
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ranus69 says:
looktothehills
Good lawd, your not even worth my keystroke. Come outta those hills and meet me in the bathroom and tap your feet 3 times and I’ll show you how sinful I can be. I’m done with you, your a moot case.
You got it right, this clown is in the larry craig wing of the republican party.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pmLMAOROTF!!! You must have taken up comedy as your new job!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pmThanks for the laugh!!
My pleasure, ranus69.
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drywall,
He’s doing better than your boy bush, who’s economic experience consisted of running multiple companies into the ground and getting daddy’s friends to bail him out, after earning a less than honorable discharge from the military.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pmSorry, but 2 things:
1. Clinton is not and has not been president for almost 10 years, GET OVER HIM!!
2. I don’t discuss the private parts of our leaders.
3. Discuss the inherently racial and racist politics and ideology of the party you seem to be shilling for and please do tell us how you can compartmentalize the self revulsion at trying to cozy up to people who hate you…
Har Har Har
July 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pmlooktothehills says:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Here’s a factual statement:
You are sick in the head Daryll. If Jesus were real, he’d hide his face in shame.
Your hell is real, and you will burn in it.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pmlooktothehills says:
Information Technology.
Then you do know that you can check your “facts” very quickly on the Internet so you don’t look like such an a$$?
Or didn’t they teach that at ORU? Probably didn’t. They didn’t have time between prayer sessions, and how to bilk people out of money.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pmYou did didja? Oh really now, what about all the
Republican Sex Offenders out there…or did you forget your dear leaders Ensign and Sanford?
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July 16th, 2009 at 6:52 pmOr perhaps you were looking for something a little closer to home?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pmlooktothehills says:
If this is true, I apologize. I made this assumption based on liberals’ sexual devious behavior.
No, you cannot apologize and have a disclaimer, otherwise the apology is as false as everything else you say.
You made a faulty assumption because you are a narrow minded holier-than-thou fool who cannot make rational connections to factual information. And you are a total a$$hole.
No one has stoned you yet for being a false prophet yet Darryl?
July 16th, 2009 at 6:57 pmDidn’t tell your church about your false prophecy about president-elect Huckabee yet, I guess. If they were really followers of that book as you claimed, you would be at the bottom of a pile of stones.
Zooey says:
Your hell is real, and you will burn in it.
Zooey, drywall is living in his hell right now. He’s a closeted gay man who can control his urges only by the most virulent attacks on those who he would dearly love to touch.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:58 pmP.S. kookinthehills,
Wasn’t Ted Haggard an alumni at your revered institution?
It seems your side can teach the deviancy better than any other…
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July 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pmMany times, as an adult thinking man, I’ve been astounded and in awe of our Founding Fathers and the system they set up. Like Jefferson writing afterwards to the Danbury Baptists, so no mention of Christianity in the Constitution but would be there or the Treaty of Tripoli. You have to wonder if they purposefully set out that objective or just lucked out. I go with the former. Those were seriously brilliant men, afterall. But we’re still going to get these mindless relgious eruptions every hundred years like we have now. They were aware of the beheadings and torture because of religious views.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:01 pmShame on Alford for pulling the race card to defend his pockets full of oil company charity!
Boxer issue is not that he’s black.
Her issue is that he’s bought!
He must have used some of the payola to fly to Alaska for Palin’s fake outrage boot camp!
July 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pmRacist is the new Republic Fascist Party Attack Word.
Call everything and anything “Racist” and that way they will look to be less “Racist”.
It’s they new game plan.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pmWhat I mean is, if they had put a clear ’seperation of church and state’ in the Constitution, the religious whack-jobs at that time would have exploded and it wouldn’t have passed. So they mumbled something like “Creator.”
Jefferson’s words were very carefully worded.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pmThe guy has apoint just this week we saw how the media played Racists Jeff Sessions asking Sotomayor why she could vote like the other minority judge(Cardenas)(sp).So this is the same situation.But I don’t think Boxer is a racists,she is just another “weak-kneed” Senator.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pmPoor Daryll, that didn’t take long. But it sure did bring out the racist, the bigot, the self-hating AA in him!
Oh, and Daryll? “Karma” is not a very Xtian thing to think about. I’m tellin’ Jesus on you!
Oral Roberts Univ. + IT + government job = Bush Burrower and all around worthless POS
PEACE
July 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pmSomeone get Mr. Alford another plate of GOP fried chicken and potato salad. Tell him his check is in the mail.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:37 pmWhat??? This is absolutely stupid. Bar none– stupid. And so are the people who call this “racist”.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pmlooktothehills says:
It is to be expected, since people who support Democrats lack the aptitude to observe many points of view.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Zooey says:
Wow. The pot calls the kettle black.
It’s like the chalk calling the shell white. :)
overthehills: That’s the funniest s hit I read thus far. Surely your fellow teabaggers are proving their “aptitude” and their many “points of view” by asking Judge Sotomayor the same bs questions, almost verbatim, time after time.
You and your teabaggers are the laughingstocks of the world. Your lame ass chimpy, ran what? Get Real.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pmIMO – this accusation of Senator Boxer is ridiculous.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:11 pmOnce one reaches the top it’s impossible to be a token, teabaggers.
To teabaggers: What’s in stupid that tastes so good?
July 16th, 2009 at 8:39 pmDutchHenry says:
The guy has apoint just this week we saw how the media played Racists Jeff Sessions asking Sotomayor why she could vote like the other minority judge(Cardenas)(sp).So this is the same situation.But I don’t think Boxer is a racists,she is just another “weak-kneed” Senator.
She is a racist. She believes all people of color think alike. OTOH she’s inferring white people are the only one that can think for themselves. She not a white supremacist by any means, but she definitely has some hang-ups with with people of color.
What she did is called a slight. It’s demeaning.
Just enough to get under ones skin.
No doubt.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:00 pmJust because your Black doesn’t mean you’re not a fool.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:21 pmMathazar posted: “Apparently Alford forgot the NAACP’s famous expression.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.”
I don’t know whose worse. You or Boxer — or Sen. Sessions who pulled the same kind of tactic this week during the confirmation hearing. Hmm… And, come to think of it, Sessions curious Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican routine didn’t receive the kind of deference here at TP that Boxer is getting. To me, to whatever extent the same posters are reacting differently, reflects some kind of weird, mindless partisanship if not some other ill-conceived notions.
Oh, Mathazar, since you don’t know… That’s not the NAACP’s famous expression.
PS:
Game Of Life… I didn’t see your post until I started mine. Anyway, thanks for trying to explain what’s at issue here. What people need to understand is that African-Americans get this kind of stuff countless number of times throughout their lives and there’s a long, nasty and unambiguously racist history of this.
The issue is not whether Boxer “is a racist.” The issue is what is it in the minds of Whites like Sessions and, now, Boxer (mere televised examples of stuff that happens all the time) that drives them, perhaps unconsciously, to think that one Black person/org (the NAACP) should be a model or example that others (Alford’s findings) should find relevant or follow.
Boxer didn’t just cite one Black organization. She cited two and, to me, acted like she was making some kind of point to Alford. What made it worse is that it took her a while to catch a clue. In fact, she was surprised that Alford would be offended and obviously didn’t have the capacity or, as they say “empathy” to listen. She thought she was being clever as indicated by her repeated and patronizing (and, yes, “racial”) use of the term “proud”… You know, because that’s what minorities are — they are “proud” of each other. Exactly what that had to do with the hearing, she and no one else here can explain. Also, no one can explain why the NAACP, in name alone (and its org’s resolution), was a relevant point in terms of the pro or con aspect of the hearing. What kind of relevant expertise does the NAACP or 1000 Black men have? That was Alford’s point.
And for the person (P.D.) who said something about Alford calling Boxer a racist (something he technically did not do — racial is often used to only convey that undue attention to race is given in a matter) was not helpful to his “cause” and acting like Boxer’s “one of the most Liberal” cred is somehow relevant… Well, that’s stuff Black people hear a lot, too.
(Link to TP thread when Sessions did it too.)
July 16th, 2009 at 10:08 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/14/sessions-sotomayor-prldef/
At first glance Bozo The Neoclown, Jim Wolf359 ad P.D. posted on both this thread and the Sessions Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican thread but had different and inexplicably different reactions to Sessions vs. Boxer. No matter what you think about Alford, there should be little difference in how Boxer and Sessions employing this curious ‘model minority’ tactic is viewed. That’s like the whole reason for the “rule of law”, objectivity aspiration… and I have little, if any, affection for Black Republicans or Black political, party/ideological conservatives.
And the idea that Boxer’s “Liberal” cred/status invalidates Alford’s reaction is like excusing Sessions and other Republicans with his type of sentiments, let alone his type of history, because of a favorable vote or two they’ve made or the Republican party being the “Party of Lincoln”, though a nuanced or an extent and degree view of Boxer’s full body of work, so to speak, should necessarily be considered along with the fact that she is not perfect.
July 16th, 2009 at 10:41 pmI’m really surprised at all of you would vote down the comments that suggest her argument was misguided. Come on people, don’t follow blindly. I love Babs, she’s not a racist in the slightest, but it was a racial argument to make, and she was being condescending. He has a point.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:42 pmA ‘token’ is someone appointed to a visible but impotent position in order to improve image.
The Republican Party likes doing that, and subsequently trumpeting about how non-racist they are. Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Michael Steele, Clarence thomas–all appointments.
(I wouldn’t call Thomas a ‘token’ because his position has real power. But it’s still an appointment.)
How many people of color do Republicans elect?
How many black Senators–zero.
Black Representatives? Zero.
Black Governors? Zero.
The leadership may cynically appoint black faces, but the rank and file don’t elect them. For a reason.
You want to see a list of all the Brack Republican elected officials?
http://www.aarlc.org/blackgop/elected.shtml
It’s one page long, including judges and members of city councils.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:58 amArguments have been made that Thomas’ behavior on the court, including a lot of silence, amount to him being in an “impotent position” and, certainly, one harmful to policies favored by the Black political consensus/majority.
On a different note — any Republican or Democratic politician/judge who is out of step with their party/constituents the vast majority of the time would be an issue and definitely not considered as representing them; hence, the tokenism in Thomas’ case.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:22 amWhat a waste it is to lose one’s mind, or not to have a mind, is being very wasteful.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:17 amTo set the record straight:
- Harry Alford is a registered Independent.
- The National Black Chamber of Commerce (NBCC) is a non-partisan group. They are endorsing the Democratic National Health Care plan. Harry Alford supports this plan.
- The NBCC is a business/commerce-centric organization. The NAACP and 100 Black Men of Atlanta are not. Harry A. Alford is right- if she wanted to make her point and not be racist, why wouldn’t she compare the findings to a different commerce-centric group such as the US Chamber of Commerce, or a different ethnic business org such as the National Hispanic Chamber of Commerce? Because it appears almost ALL these groups are also opposed to the bill.
Barbara Boxer’s offers no reasoning or rationale for comparing the NBCC’s findings vs. the NAACP’s or the 100 Black Men of Atlanta’s findings. It can ONLY be based on the fact that these are “black organizations”. Like it or not folks, Barbara Boxer is being RACIST.
- To defend her only because there is a “D-” in front of her name tells me many of the respondents on this site will sacrfice any ethical/moral belief they may have and blindly defend someone’s behavior regardless of the act simply to protect one of their “team members”. If that is you, shame on you.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pmpbeeg,
Secretary of State is an impotent position?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pm“republicans hate facts” said (with sissy whine):
f*KKK off NQuest you IDIOT.
Nquest says: You apparently got me confused with somebody who’s affected by little childish fits of emotion (yours). Yelling “IDIOT”, ironically, because you’re too much of an idiot to make me “f*KKK off” by actually raising a substantive or direct point (not to be confused with a sissy whine — aka cowards plea) in opposition to what I’ve said is an invitation for me to laugh at you.
As for our friend who thought the famous expression, “A mind is a terrible thing to waste,” was one promoted by the NAACP… Well, I’ll help you out. That expression is promoted by the UNCF, not the NAACP.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pmIt’s only racist if you are a black liberal.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:47 amDo you folks realize how bad you sound. Most of these comments are undeniably elitest and racist. Have you reached such a height in your towers that you can’t look at what you are saying? Just a reality check, but hate is hate. You really should try some introspection. No offense but … dang.
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July 21st, 2009 at 6:32 pm