1. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)

2. Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)

3. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

4. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)

5. Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)

6. Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)

7. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

8. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)

9. Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)

10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

11. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)

12. Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)

13. Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)

Anyone….why is the current healthcare system “Employer based”….
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Thats easy. It is a good way to maximize profits in a hidden way. If you get a chronic or serious illness you miss too much work and LOSE your job AND insurance and they dont have to pay for you anymore. This way they GET the premiums then when you need what you pay for they can weasel out of their obligation

It has been part of the hidden GOP agenda, or maybe not so hidden, to eliminate social programs. They always said they wanted to shrink government down to the size of a bathtub and drown it…. They tried to kill social security, by privatizing it, letting all those brokers make lots of commissions. We were all lucky to avoid that, can we even fathom how much worse the economy would be if social security funds had been in the stock market that last year…..

When the Republicans came to power they did everything they could to undo Roosevelt’s legacy. They sold a bill of goods to the public that all these programs were bad. Now we are having problems because of the rollback of the laws. Let us see if the voters will easily fall prey to the Republican siren song of less taxes and less government. The Republicans are afraid of health care reform because it could signal a new Democratic coalition that will dominate Congress for decades.

There’s the proof.

marwick, I worked for the largest super market in the South East. I got a job there because they offered health care for part time workers after one year of employment. They had this policy for more than twenty years. Last year they stopped offering this health care. Over fifty thousand lost their health care.

Capitalist heath care= rationing
There’s the proof.

I would like to ask you a question if I may? Please answer honesty marwick, not as repub or dem but an American. Don’t you think if everyone paid into one pool, insurance would be less expensive because the costs would be incurred by all instead of just the employed. Also wouldn’t a business’s end product be significantly cheaper because he no longer has to pay as much for workers comp and nothing for health care? Wouldn’t everyone’s auto insurance go down because they would no longer be liable for medical bills as a result of an accident? This would be the same for home owners liability, store owners, basically the cost of just about everything would drop because the medical liabilty would be erased. NO? Then, add to this the immediate 30% reduction in cost for administration and paperwork for over ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED different health insurance Co’s. Just that alone is is around 85 billion dollars. There would also be a huge reduction in fraud because there will be a medical history.

Getting back to Massachusetts. That 30 thousand is what percent of the whole of the people insured? The reason I asked is because at the store I worked at, 75% of the employees lost insurance. Lets have a sincere discussion. Just because Mass is having a problem we should not scrap the whole issue. How did they fund their plan? Obviously there was poor oversight. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak. Right now in America people are losing their health care to the tune of about 134 thousand a month! WILL YOU BE NEXT?!!!

Sad, but true

“In Greed We Trust”

want to know more about health interests’ influence on our political futures? the full report can be found here: http://www.commoncause.org/healthcare2009

2 of my neighbors are retired military. Both told me that I was crazy not to vote for McCain, Obama would socialize medicine….they did not want the healthcare system to change .

Funny thing happened….each one of them now has an unemployed kid that has moved back home. The kids bought private health insurance plans that now costs over $ 200.00/month…which the parents are paying…

My 2 retired friends think that the cost is “outrageous ” considering the high deductibles, no preventative care, NO RX and one of the kids had some riders for pre-existing coverage. I told one of the Dad’s that if their daughter was hospitalized for one of those pre-exist conditions..that the daughter would have to pay all charges…her insurance will NOT pay.

Guess what “Marwick”…both my patriotic retired military friends CAN NOT WAIT FOR HEALTHCARE REFORM

If you support the present system, you are a Socialist. You are telling people that they better go to work for the government or a large corporation in order to get their healthcare…
The ” Employer Based” healthcare funding system DOES NOT WORK in a global economy.
Level the playing field

I have zero respect for anyone who became a doctor just to make a lot of money. I would rather die than be treated by a doctor who is more concerned with whether or not I can pay his high fees than he is with whether or not I live or get better.

Not only are some out there to make money, but the system is such some have gone to unsavory means. Being under the thumb of insurance co, ex: only allowed five minutes per visit and fearful of law suites I have witnessed:

dumping difficult patients under the disguise of a referral

physician eager to support one another for networking brownie points… if a mistake appears to be a pending law suit

Chart cheating. Ex: a physician sees a patient, charts his assessment and plan, then a few months later patients records come in from a previous physician, the physician goes back to the chart to the previous date, changes his plan to match the other physician then lies to the patient with the next visit over what his plan was. With electronic charts, they could not do this.

Conservatives are MORONS. YOU are the proof

Here’s the proof.

Here’s another story from Massachusetts, where socialized health care is failing and being rationed. 30,000 people being thrown off socialized health care because the state can’t afford it. I guess if Obama and Pelosi socialize health care, maybe this will happen to you.

Peter Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

My family and I moved to Boston last year (late June). Due to numerous reasons, I ended up on something called the Health Safety Net here in MA (this means I earned too much for the ‘free’ option, which my kids got on, but didn’t have other health insurance; my wife had insurance through her school as she finished up her degree here).

Needing prescriptions refilled (but otherwise healthy) I was placed on the waiting list to see a doctor. FIFTEEN MONTHS LATER (not a typo), I was called to be informed that I had a doctor’s appointment: 1) at a doctor over an hour away 2) exactly 3 weeks AFTER we’ll be moving out of the state.

Still needing those Rx filled, I called local doctors, informing them that I would pay cash for the appointment. No doctor, within 30 miles of my house, that I called, was accepting new patients. None. Nada.

Thankfully, my old doctor has been refilling the Rx for me, and I’ll be driving over 1000 miles next week to see her on my way to our new house.

You might think: go to an urgent care facility. Nope, not legal in MA. CVS sued the state to have their MinuteClinics in stores so they now have about 10 or so…BUT, they are not legally allowed to offer all the great (and cheap) services that MinuteClinics in other states offer (for instance, for $30 I could have gone to a MinuteClinic for a blood pressure screening and refills…)

One of my sons (who is on the ‘free’ plan) had open-heart surgery at 3 months old. He’s now 6 and perfectly fine except he needs to see a cardiologist for a check-up every year. Fifteen months later, the MA ‘insurance’ has still not approved his appointment so he will not be seeing a cardiologist until after we move. This despite constant calls to the insurance by both me and his pediatrician AND his former cardiologist (who has offered to see him for free if we drive him down the 1000 miles or so).

On the other hand (cue: sarcasm): we get new car seats for ‘free’ every year. And ‘free’ safety helmets. And ‘free’ kits to child-proof a house.

Through the ‘health safety net’ I was given a price of $82 a month for my RX from the major drug chains. Without using the ‘health safety net’ Costco fills my Rx for about $16 a month.

That is MA health care, from a personal level.

I can not wait to arrive in LA at the end of this month…