ThinkFast: July 17, 2009
ThinkFast: July 17, 2009
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Last night, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow debated her colleague Pat Buchanan on the role of affirmative action in the Supreme Court nomination of Sonia Sotomayor. When Maddow pointed out that 108 of 110 Supreme Court justices have been white, Buchanan responded, “White men were 100% of the people that wrote the Constitution, 100% of the people that signed the Declaration of Independence, 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg, probably close to 100% of the people who died at Normandy. This has been a country built basically by white folks.”
In his first speech before the NAACP since taking office, President Obama told the audience that, while “the pain of discrimination is still felt,” there’s “never been less.” He also issued a challenge to African-Americans: “We’ve got to say to our children…you will face challenges [but]…that’s not a reason to get bad grades, that’s not a reason to cut class, that’s not a reason to give up on your education and drop out of school.”
Senators “friendly to labor” have decided to drop card-check, the central provision of a bill that would have made it easier for workers to organize simply by signing cards saying they wanted a union. Several “moderate Democrats opposed the card-check provision as undemocratic.” Instead, “the revised bill would require shorter unionization campaigns and faster elections.”
The House Ways and Means Committee passed a health care reform package that includes a robust public option. The plan includes a surtax on the wealthy to pay for it. “We’re very, very proud of what we’ve done,” Chairman Charles Rangel (D-NY) said. The American Medical Association had endorsed the plan.
“The American Conservative Union asked FedEx for a $2 million check in return for the group’s endorsement in a bitter legislative dispute, then flipped and sided with UPS after FedEx refused to pay,” Politico reports. After FedEx turned down the offer, ACU signed on to a letter supporting UPS’ position on legislation that would have FedEx “negotiate union contracts for individual locations.”
The Senate voted yesterday to extend hate crimes legislation to include “people attacked because of their sexual orientation or gender.” The bill will also “make it easier for federal prosecutors to step in when state or local authorities are unable or unwilling to pursue hate crimes.” The House passed a similar bill in April.
A new study from the San Francisco Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center and UC, San Francisco “found that more than one-third of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who enrolled in the veterans health system after 2001 received a diagnosis of a mental health problem, most often post-traumatic stress disorder or depression.” The number of vets with mental health problems “rose steadily the longer they were out of the service.”
Two suicide bombers attacked two luxury hotels in Jakarta, Indonesia early this morning, killing at least eight people and injuring more than 50. “There were no immediate claims of responsibility for the attacks on Friday, but initial suspicion is likely to be directed at Jemaah Islamiyah, which the United States government has placed on its list of terrorist organizations.”
Iranian opposition leader, Mir Hussein Moussavi, will attend Friday prayer services today, making his first official appearance since last month’s disputed presidential election. “As word of Mr. Moussavi’s planned appearance spread, opposition supporters vowed to show up in large numbers to the vast prayer hall where Friday’s sermon and prayers will take place. There were reports that green prayer mats — the color of Islam and of Mr. Moussavi’s election campaign — were sold out across the city.” Check out Nico Pitney’s coverage of the Iranian uprising.
And finally: “We’re going to do that crack cocaine thing,” Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) said to a bemused witness at yesterday’s Sotomayor confirmation hearing. The hearing room quickly cracked up. Sessions laughed along with the crowd, saying “I misspoke.” He then clarified to the witness, Wade Henderson of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, that “we’re going to reduce the burden of penalties in some of the crack cocaine cases and make them fair.”
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July 17th, 2009 at 9:06 amPat pat the bunny….
July 17th, 2009 at 9:08 amSorry I was playing what comes to mind first….
Pat Buchanan made the KKK proud last night.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:08 amWhy is Pat the racist still on TV?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:08 amRachel vs. Pat last night reminded me of an episode of “All In The Family”:
Archie: “Well, then, how come all the astronauts are white?”
Black neighbor: “Because they were picked by lily-white astronauts who only pick other lily-white astronauts.”
Pat doesn’t get it.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:09 amThis has been a country built basically by white folks.
-Pat Buchanan
Beyond wingnuttia, Buchanan is still paid handsomely by ‘The Morning Joke’ show on MSNBC. Why?
A White, Southern racist is not, in any way, shape or form, reflective of America’s current demographics. Allowing his 19th century ideas to be broadcast to millions is defying common sense.
He claims only white folks built America. Bullshit! Whites were the property owners, sipping mint juleps while they watched their slaves do the heavy lifting & back breaking work; including building our Capitol.
Rachel basically reamed him. Thank you, Rachel.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:12 amI guess Pat believes in government of white people, for white people, by white people. Sheees!
July 17th, 2009 at 9:12 ampat Buchanan; racist much?
BTW: your slip is showing from under your lily-white KKK robe.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:15 amPat apparently forgot that only white people (males specifically) counted as people when the Declaration was signed, the Constitution was written, etc.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:16 amFor a group that overwhelmingly lost the November 2008 elections, the repiggies are all over the 24 hour news channels, as well as totally owning FoxNews.
Why aren’t there more progressive voices on the 24 hour news channels?
Why are there virtually no news programs that don’t have a reactionary repiggie slant constantly?
Why are these repiggies being shoved down our throats as the only voices of “authority” on anything?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:16 amIs Pat perhaps missing the point that the TAXPAYERS are NOT 100% white men? And the country is NOT 100% white men? Not a hard concept Pat, you can’t apply apartheid principles, you white men no longer own the country. Hell, you don’t even run it anymore.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am. .. … . ..
now it’s conservative family values
guy chip pickering with his tail caught
in the crack, what’s with this c street group?
i’m sure both troll and non-troll will join me
in agreeing that it’s nothing but a whore house
of hypocrisy and indecent monkey shines!
***
can i get an “amen”?
:0
July 17th, 2009 at 9:20 amAs the Capital Steps put it, “America Can’t Stand Pat!”
July 17th, 2009 at 9:21 amC-Street should be renamed Cheat-Street
July 17th, 2009 at 9:24 am“This has been a country built basically by white folks
[holding whips].”
that was amazing…
and rachel was amazing, holding on the way she did…
and pointing out the ol’ pat is in the wrong century…
wow.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:24 amDoes anyone else find the news that over 1/3 of our soldiers are displaying symptoms of PTSD?
These young men & women have experienced horrors that nobody is prepared for, regardless of the amount of training received.
The Iraq invasion will go down as one America’s worst actions in history. Not only was it illegal & corporate driven, the fallout with our young soldiers is becoming intolerable.
The Bush cabal must be punished. It will not ‘fix’ anything, but we owe it to ourselves & the rest of the World to show we recognize our folly & justice will be served.
Phuck Yoo, Addington, Cheney, Bybee, Bush, Rumsfeld, Tenet, and all the corporate tentacles profiting from others deaths.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:24 amthe NAACP speech was great also…
“inner preacher” i heard this morning… yes, he did…
July 17th, 2009 at 9:26 amAnyone still doubt “conservative” is a fancy name for crack wh*re willing to do or say anything for money?
PEACE
July 17th, 2009 at 9:28 amkaty says: the NAACP speech was great also…
“inner preacher” i heard this morning… yes, he did…
Agreed, & good morning, Katy.
Now, watch Fixed Noise & Insannity immediately compare Rev. Wright speeches to Obama’s NAACP speech last night.
My take on it was I wish President Obama would display the same passion to Congress & lobbyists.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:29 amIt is EXTREMELY difficult for me to watch and listen to Bucolic Buchanan. And at this point I believe MSNBC is beyoud the ability to be embarrassed by him. They must provide him living quarters because he is on every show almost every day. Especially when they need something stupid said.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:30 amWhites were also 100% of slave owners and 100% of the oppressing British regime that the American colonials fought against. Pat’s point was…?
(And really, yes. What is the point to having such a violent racist as lead spokesman on TV?)
July 17th, 2009 at 9:30 amBuchanan responded, “White men were 100% of the people that wrote the Constitution, 100% of the people that signed the Declaration of Independence, 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg, probably close to 100% of the people who died at Normandy.
Cracker, pleaze! (Uh oh, that will infuriate b-cup).
I don’t think his last two statistics are correct.
Slaves did fight in the Civil War, and I’m pretty sure “them blacks” were allowed to fight for our country during the second World War. I’m also pretty sure some were killed on D-Day!
I also think his analogy is completely off base. By his reasoning, Major League Baseball shouldn’t have any non-whites participating, because it was originally created by whites, for white players, financed by whites, for the entertainment of whites. Yet, eventually, it realized the error of it’s ways, and allowed “minorities” to play (albeit, it happened way too late, and not without major racial overtones and confrontations, such as the hatred and racism towards Jackie Robinson and Hank Greenberg, among others)
July 17th, 2009 at 9:30 amjoe,
AMEN!
July 17th, 2009 at 9:31 amjimmcdosh says:
voted down and flagged for spam
July 17th, 2009 at 9:38 amZimzone says:
Hitler invades Poland, 1939; crimes against peace
Bush invades Iraq, 2003; crimes against peace
Associate Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, the chief American prosecuter at Nuremberg said that the planning, conspiracy, starting, and waging a war of aggreesion the SUPREME WAR CRIME.
War criminals who committed crimes against peace were sent to the gallows at Nuremberg and Tokyo.
Ergo, Bush/Cheney and their henchmen need to be hung by the neck until dead.
NUREMBERG II 2009
July 17th, 2009 at 9:38 amone-third of our soldiers, our young women and men, are comeing back as mental time-bombs. They need our help, our support, and they need it immediately.
We owe it to them for putting them there in the first place. We owe it to their spouses, and we owe it to their kids.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:38 am. … … ..
i’m skeptical about pat’s claim
regarding america being an all
white production.
* * *
it might make pat feel better to learn
that the turd reich was put together
by a bunch of eager beaver white dudes.
: + )
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July 17th, 2009 at 9:40 am““White men were 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg”
July 17th, 2009 at 9:40 amReally pat? i am sure that would come as a surprise to the freed slave regiment that fought for the union during the civil war. perhaps we at TP should take up a collect for an adult education course in american history for squinty eyed pat.
Please, people, pointing out that Pat Buchanan is a racist is about as ground-breaking as pointing out that pretzels are salty.
It’s part of the package. It’s part of Pat’s “appeal” such as as it is.
Personally, I think his continued employment on MSNBC is a plot by the librul media™ to discredit the Right. Come to think of it, most of the right-wing pundits in the MSM serve that function, including those on Faux News…
On Noes! Faux News is actually part of Vast Librul Conspiracy!
July 17th, 2009 at 9:41 amWhoops, my bad.
It appears Cracker Buchanan’s “statistic” about Normandy is mostly correct.
The forgotten battalion.
Still doesn’t make his argument any stronger.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:41 amPat BUCHANAN lives in the 18th century but he forgets that his white Irish ancestors would not have been front line white men in English America.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:41 amthe privacy center is so going down in flames.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:43 amFact check for Pat Buchanan:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Uncle Ho says:
“…Bush/Cheney and their henchmen need to be hung by the neck until dead.”
Bush should be made to watch his veep and henchmen swing before his turn. If he pleads for mercy he should be mocked by the hangman like he did when he ridiculed death row inmate Karla Fay Baker:
“In the week before [Karla Faye Tucker's] execution, Bush says, Bianca Jagger and a number of other protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Tucker. “Did you meet with any of them?” I ask.
Bush whips around and stares at me. “No, I didn’t meet with any of them,” he snaps, as though I’ve just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. “I didn’t meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like ‘What would you say to Governor Bush?’ ”
“What was her answer?” I wonder.
“Please,” Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, “don’t kill me.”"
July 17th, 2009 at 9:44 am“This has been a country built basically by white folks”
But they had shiny boots, a full belly, clean houses and yards, and a satisfied libido thanks to the handy dandy slaves.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:45 amBite on this Cracker Buchanan:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:47 amHistory Lesson Time!
“This has been a country built basically by white folks”
unless of course, you were a slave, in which case you built the capitol
July 17th, 2009 at 9:47 amAnd jimmcdosh, fck off and die. Why can’t TP put a bullet in his IP address’ ear?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:47 amralph the wonder locust says:
“Personally, I think his continued employment on MSNBC is a plot by the librul media™ to discredit the Right.”
Pat Buchanan is to MSNBC as Alan Colmes was to FOX Snooze
Pat is out token Rightie. Affirmative action baby of MSNBC.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:48 amout s/b OUR
July 17th, 2009 at 9:48 amWe white folk sure are fortunate that we’ve got brave souls like Pat Buchanan willing to stand up to defend our legacy.
We’re all like Dick Nixon that way.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:49 amI just have one thing to say to the trolls who want to trash Rachel: She’s a Rhodes Scholar. You?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:50 amAnother thing about buchanan’s rant last night that bugged me is his defense of the the working class. Her doesn’t give a shit about the working class. First off a lot of hispanics, asians, and African Americans are members of the working class. It’s not just white archie bunker types. And a lot of the them are in or used to be in UNIONS! Is Pat suddenly pro-union?
Where was pat’s concern for the working class when he was using his student deferments to go to the elitist college Georgetown while the working class was getting shipped off to Vietnam? Where was his concern when his boss Nixon was escalating that war and killing 1000’s of working class soldiers in Cambodia and Laos in addition to Vietnam? Where is his concern for the working class when his fat cat friends are sending working class jobs overseas?
Working class is just code for white in pat’s pea-sized brain.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:51 amjimmcdosh is now officially anonymous, which is what it desired as the ultimate.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:52 amHA!
caption contest:
Pat Buchanan, on exiting the men’s bathroom at Reagan Airport, “Hey, I just ran into Lindsey Graham and Bobby Jindal! Who wants to smell my thumbs?”
July 17th, 2009 at 9:54 amAnother fact check for Pat:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:55 am
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Buchanon should have been executed along with all the rest of the Nixon crime family. There might never have been a Reagan or a Bush.
Meanwhile, out here on the Rim, “Indonesia: Human Beings Slaughtered.”
July 17th, 2009 at 9:55 am.
42, I think you forgot to add “/snark”?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:57 amThat I did, my friend. That I did. Sometimes I figure the snark should be obvious, when it isn’t.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am“This has been a country built basically by white folks.”
What was Ms. Maddow’s response?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:59 amSay… has anyone seen watchpup lately?
I’d hate to think the new voting system is depriving us of our daily ration of regurgitated right-wing talking points and misleading headlines.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:01 amDRxJ, the Army was still segregated at that point, and the Allied commanders (you know, white guys) didn’t include “colored” soldiers in their plans. And does anyone know what Buchanan’s military records consists of? That’s right, Mr. Patriot didn’t serve.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:01 amhttp://www.realchange.org/buchanan.htm
joeyramonesmom says:
I just have one thing to say to the trolls who want to trash Rachel: She’s a Rhodes Scholar.
conservatives think college is for dummies…
July 17th, 2009 at 10:02 amSenators “friendly to labor” have decided to drop card-check, the central provision of a bill that would have made it easier for workers to organize simply by signing cards saying they wanted a union.
Bailouts for rich people? Hell yes! Unions for the working class? Not gonna do it.
Another capitulation by the Dems.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:02 amOne of the things I have always admired about Pat Buchanan (probably the ONLY thing) is that he seems to be an honest man. He speaks his mind, and doesn’t care how offensive his thoughts may be to others.
But while it’s refreshing to hear a politician or pundit give his honest thoughts freely, the thoughts themselves are disturbing — and quite frankly, Pat’s vision of the world scares the crap out of me.
Even more disturbing is that this lunatic is given legitimacy by the media. I would think that if he holds the view that whites are superior to other races (and he clearly does), that while he is on screen, his name should read “Pat Buchanan/White Supremacist”, as well as a disclaimer that his views do not reflect the views of the station or network. In other words, treat him exactly the same as if a news show was interviewing a member of the Aryan Brotherhood.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:03 amA Patriotic Anopheles Acting says: caption contest:
Pat Buchanan, on exiting the men’s bathroom at Reagan Airport, “Hey, I just ran into Lindsey Graham and Bobby Jindal! Who wants to smell my thumbs?”
lol, that brings Larry Craig & Jake the Tapper to mind…
July 17th, 2009 at 10:04 amjoeyramonesmom says:
I just have one thing to say to the trolls who want to trash Rachel: She’s a Rhodes Scholar.
Have you heard about the new self-help book for conservatives? It’s called
“Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Bible Study Class”
July 17th, 2009 at 10:04 amralph@52,
July 17th, 2009 at 10:05 amyes, the maroon was trying to convince us the other night a liberal arts college education creates liberals.
Ralph, don’t you know better than to kick a sleeping dog?
July 17th, 2009 at 10:07 amblotchdog, care to dissect each right wing talking point you linked, and discuss it intelligently, like an adult?
If not…
BUH-BYE!
July 17th, 2009 at 10:08 amSounds kinda activisty, Jeff.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:09 amwatchdog says:
Bozo The Neoclown says:
ralph@52,
yes, the maroon was trying to convince us the other night a liberal arts college education creates liberals.
The idea of a liberal arts education does not but the tenured professors do.
Yes, by exposing students to a wide range of ideas, and by questioning their un-thought-through assumptions.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:09 amAccording to forms filed with the IRS, the legal name is C Street Center (seriously). I’ll leave it there without indulging my inner frat boy.
Brownback and Hatch: Fun with hate crimes legislation:
http://www.tips-q.com/1148695-breaking-hate-crimes-bill-moving-along-senate
And, if I hear Rachel refer to “Uncle Pat” one more time I shall vomit.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:10 amD’oh! My bad.
Sit, watchpup. Sit. There’s a nice snausage in it for you if you go lay down on your dog bed and stop barking at the clouds.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:12 amThese damn Blue Dogs are going to kill the EFCA because of card check.I hope these people are up for reelection so they can be booted out, I don`t get it, what makes these blue dogs progressive? is it because they aren`t Reich wing nuts, only wanna be`s without the hard core Christofascism.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:13 amThe problem with watchpup’s contention about “creating liberals” is that he’s largely correct. More education leads to more open minds, which leads to liberal thought and philosophy.
The problem is that watchpup thinks that’s a bad thing.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:13 amblotchdog, I have an idea for you.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:15 amInstead of posting several links all at once, and then disappearing (and having your post disappear), why not just only post one, then defend it’s content.
Healthy, intelligent debate.
Try it.
You may like it.
The Cur agrees with his old master KKKarl Rove (stoopid mutt):
“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans — unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”
July 17th, 2009 at 10:17 amKarl Rove, quoted in the “Daily Texan,” March 19, 2001
At least watchpup recognizes that systemic ignorance is the only prayer the Right has of retaining relevance and gaining new recruits.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:18 amAnother point of history for racist Pat…One of the first persons killed in the revolutionary war was a black man in Boston.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:19 amI find that part to be true enough but you have to give the gop credit for a lot of the swing to the left these days. Thanks.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:20 amralph the wonder locust says:
D’oh! My bad.
No problem. But since you have the power to summon conservatives, why not bring Keltoi back? It would be nice to have a reasoned discussion.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:20 amwatchdog@61,
July 17th, 2009 at 10:21 amyou mean like lil billy kristol at harvard?
I suspect Keltoi could no longer face the embarrassment of being politically aligned with the kind of morons that typically provide the right-wing point of view here.
Can’t say I blame him.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:23 amDo you suppose watchpup realizes that during the Eisenhower administration the top marginal tax rate was 91%?
And that the economy still grew pretty robustly under that system?
July 17th, 2009 at 10:25 amNavajo talkers served in WWII. Somebody tell Pat.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:26 amBobwurst says:
conservatives think college is for dummies…
Thanks for the reminder! I forgot that conservatives think colleges are only for white guys who are legacies (shout out to W).
July 17th, 2009 at 10:27 amralph the wonder locust says:
I suspect Keltoi could no longer face the embarrassment of being politically aligned with the kind of morons that typically provide the right-wing point of view here.
Can’t say I blame him.
Yeah, you’re probably right. But he also took quite a beating here, from folks who were venting their frustrations on hit and run trolls. With the new voting system, a more reasoned, nuanced dialogue from the conservative side might be welcome.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:27 amI would hope so, but I suspect that most of us will vote down any comment we don’t agree with, rather than engaging those arguments and just voting down the trolls.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:30 amI would give the new voting system a thumbs up.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:31 amwatchdog says:
Bozo The Neoclown says:
ralph@52,
yes, the maroon was trying to convince us the other night a liberal arts college education creates liberals.
The idea of a liberal arts education does not but the tenured professors do
Like those tenured professors at Georgtown did to Pat? Imagine how much of a right-wing a$$hole he must have been before!
July 17th, 2009 at 10:31 amralph the wonder locust says:
Bobwurst says:
With the new voting system, a more reasoned, nuanced dialogue from the conservative side might be welcome.
I would hope so, but I suspect that most of us will vote down any comment we don’t agree with, rather than engaging those arguments and just voting down the trolls.
Good point. I hope we’ll do enough self- police-ing to stop that, otherwise we’ll just become a left-wing redstate. I’m not here to debate how many liberal angels can stand on the head of a pin with other liberals.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:34 am. …. ..
what’s that ya say doggie?
:)
:)
July 17th, 2009 at 10:47 amthe best thing about the new voting system at TP is that the spam gets voted down quickly and therefore people like watchpuppy and jimmmcdosh and jeffboste can’t advertise their right wing sites here
July 17th, 2009 at 10:53 amSen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL): “we’re going to reduce the burden of penalties in some of the crack cocaine cases and make them fair.”
They’re reducing the penalties in some crack cocaine cases, because they’re harsher than white-collar cocaine cases? I found this link, but I’d like it if anyone else can find something a little bit clearer. Thanks.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:53 amI wonder if Rachel is forced to have Pat Puke-cannon on her show or if she voluntarily has him on just to slap him down and show him for the ignorant, racist fool he really is.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:11 amLinger on that statement for awhile. I guess it depends on what you mean by “built”. If by that you mean the labor to build America much of that came from either slaves or immigrants. The westward expansion of the Railroads was done by Chinese indentured servants. Mexican laborors do much of the “dirty” work today. Yes, at times the immigrants were white, such as the Irish, but more often they were non-white. Granted, the master for these non-white slaves and immigrants were basically white. So Buchanan showed not only a mean racist streak, he also show a basic ignorance of history. An ignorance formed by his racism.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:11 amDallasNE says:
Yes, at times the immigrants were white, such as the Irish, but more often they were non-white. Granted, the master for these non-white slaves and immigrants were basically white.
Don’t forget, at the time the Irish people were also the victims of discrimination, by the white people.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:20 amI see the cracks. Collapse is near.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:31 amThe ‘opposition’ has abandon all pretenses. They show themselves to be blatently racist, sexist bald faced liars.
Who in their right mind could support these people?
Well, except for the White House. There, only the overseers were white. The actual building was done by black folks.
I so hope this will spell the end of Buchanan’s noxious public career.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:56 amThis has been a country built basically by white folks.”
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July 17th, 2009 at 11:59 amThat’s right, Pat. First taken away from the Native Americans by “white folk” and then built on the backs of kidnapped and enslaved Africans. Then came the poor Mexicans who worked for slave wages. I am a “white folk” who is not so proud of us. Thankfully the majority of Americans would not agree with Uncle Pat.
Hmm… watchpup spews an awful lot of statistics but neglects to include any links to verify them…
Like the claim that “46% of our population is already covered by government sponsored plains”.
Since approximately 15% of the population has no health insurance at all, watchpup would like us to believe that only 39% of the population is covered by private health insurance.
Where do those guys get the $1.4 million a day that they’re using to bribe — er… lobby Congress on this issue?
July 17th, 2009 at 12:02 pmThe answer lies within the question – there are a lot of people in this country who are not in their right minds…
July 17th, 2009 at 12:02 pmRalph, you slay me…
July 17th, 2009 at 12:03 pm“This has been a country built basically by white folks”
Yeah Pat, I guess all those black slaves were just sitting around enjoying a free lunch.
I believe slaves had a part in the construction of the White House and other buildings in D.C (Where I believe Pat grew up and went to college), but Pat only knows the outdated racist white man version of US history.
Pat’s too out of it to be a tv pundit. He should not be pontificating his ridiculous off the wall views on tv…..
July 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pmin his own home, the front porch of the retirement home, his local barbershop…fine, but there’s no way this out of date relic from the horse and buggy era should be spouting nonsense on a national level. He’s a waste of time in 2009.
Does watchpup even read the stuff he links to? The first link returns a 404 error, but the second shows the percentage of total population enrolled in Medicare at 20%.
Once again, watchpup pwns self.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:53 pmnellre says:
I see the cracks. Collapse is near.
The ‘opposition’ has abandon all pretenses. They show themselves to be blatently racist, sexist bald faced liars.
Who in their right mind could support these people?
Not EVERYONE is in their right mind.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThey play to the loonies, the delusional, the disturbed, the ignorant, the racists and the angry….that probably adds up to about 20% of the national electorate.
RantingTommy asks (at #4):
To remind the rest of us (i.e., the rational world) what we never want to become.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pmWhy in the world do you live in a place that is built on such atrocities? If I were you I would find a place that has a perfect past says Watchdog.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm———————————
#98 Watchdog – you must be one of those Con Repubs who thinks America can do no wrong? I have news for you, there is no perfect place, but we can work to make it better. It’s clear that for you and Pat Buchanen a perfect place would be 100% “white folks.”
How dare this racist bigot claim America was built by white men when slaves had their backs beaten daily with spilled blood, fingers worked to the bone from sunrise to sunset!!!
MSNBC wants Pat Buchanan on the show because those dirty dogs like what he says. Pat knows they’re pleased…that’s why he doesn’t give a damn.
MSNBC need to be boycotted until Pat Buchanan is gone. They understand money.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pmJust when you thought Pat and Bay Buchanan couldn’t get any worst………they prove you wrong.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:01 pmBehold, the Glenn Beck Screeching Vampire Remix. Rock out, y’all.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pmwatchdog says:
Why in the world do you live in a place that is built on such atrocities? If I were you I would find a place that has a perfect past.
Obviously, there’s no such thing. But putting people who commit genocide up on a pedestal is bad. Blaming the victims of genocide is bad. That’s what Buchanan was doing, and that’s what you’re defending. Therefore, you are bad. You are a bad person.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pmLet’s run with Buchanan’s argument.
The signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constutition were white, English-derived. Therefore, we must do away with the other europeans also.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:04 pm.. … …
doggie…?
:)
July 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pmSome people have already pointed out that Buchanan is wrong from a historical standpoint. I would certainly hope the this falsehood is corrected on MSNBC. But I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Buchanan to retract.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pmjoe cantwell, one of the minor trade-offs of this new system is that it provides a disincentive for the trolls to stick around and babble.
While in most ways this is a good thing, it does tend to cut down on the chances that a troll will pwn itself, as watchpuppy did above.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pm…
ralph,
i think doggie likes it
like long walks, trips in the car
and pinching a loaf.
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yes, this is good for doggie
and good for us.
congrats, tp.
:)
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nellre sez:Who in their right mind could support these people?
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July 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm