DeMint’s discourse: Government is fascist, says he will ‘break’ Obama and cause the Senate ‘pain.’
DeMint’s discourse: Government is fascist, says he will ‘break’ Obama and cause the Senate ‘pain.’
Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) is ratcheting up his anti-Obama rhetoric. On a call with right-wing activists yesterday afternoon, he proudly proclaimed that he aims to “break” the President by defeating health reform. He also said recently that he prefers to cause “pain” to his fellow legislators rather than working on reform. And while promoting his new book on the G. Gordon Liddy show yesterday, DeMint agreed with Gordon — who ironically has a history of expressing sympathetic views to Nazis — that Obama has created a government like that under Hitler:
LIDDY: But there’s something else that I remember because I’m a lot older than you are and it’s called national socialism and that’s where the government allows private people to continue to own industrial capacity and what have you but tells them what they may — must do with it. You know, you will make Messerschmidts, etc. That was national socialism. That seems to me the way we’re going.
DEMINT: You’re right we’ve got national socialism, national paternalism and our form of socialism seems more benign than the classical form that we noted in Europe.
Listen here:
This isn’t the first time DeMint has used this incorrect analogy. As Matt Yglesias previously wrote, “Look, comparing your domestic political rivals to Nazis is a time-honored tradition. But confusing the Nazis and Germany’s Social Democrats is a scandal. The Social Democrats were the main source of opposition to Hitler at a time when the Communists were bizarrely maintaining that there was no difference between the two and the mainstream parties of the center-right decided that it made sense to form a tactical alliance with Hitler. Social Democrats stand for a generous welfare state and active labor market policies. Nazis try to conquer the world and send people to the gas chamber.”
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Good luck with that, DeMint.
I’m sure Mr Liddy will help you find a new job…
July 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pmMatt Yglesias writes as if Republicans cared about accuracy of fact or history. I’d think he would know better than that.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pmGot treason?
July 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pmAs Matt Yglesias previously wrote, “Look, comparing your domestic political rivals to Nazis is a time-honored tradition. But confusing the Nazis and Germany’s Social Democrats is a scandal. The Social Democrats were the main source of opposition to Hitler at a time when the Communists were bizarrely maintaining that there was no difference between the two and the mainstream parties of the center-right decided that it made sense to form a tactical alliance with Hitler. Social Democrats stand for a generous welfare state and active labor market policies. Nazis try to conquer the world and send people to the gas chamber.”
Trolls, here’s an easy-to-understand explanation for the difference between “National Socialists” and Social Democrats. Please read and understand the above paragraph before making fools of yourselves. AGAIN.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pmDeMint is just another hack who is blowing smoke out his behind. He will say anything or do anything to grandstand for his audience. I would not be surprised if he tries to run for President.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:08 pmAny know if DeMint spends any time at C Street? He seems very focused on “pain”. Wonder if this “pain” transfers to his sexual preferences. A little S&M perhaps?
Anyone that speaks in such a vile manner usually has many skeletons in their closet.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pm[...]confusing the Nazis and Germany’s Social Democrats is a scandal. The Social Democrats were the main source of opposition to Hitler[...]
Yeah, but those are facts…
Republicans and conservatives in general don’t use terms in the literal sense to try to draw a parallel, let alone to learn the lessons of history.
They use words like “National Socialism” to mean “something I think it’s really, really bad”, regardless of whether it actually applies or what it means.
They are going for rhetorical effects -we all know accuracy and rigorous adherence to facts are not the right wing’s forte.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pmIronic really, considering that DeMint lives in the C Street cult house in Washington, DC, run by “The Family”… and that “The Family” hold Adolf Hitler up to be a model leader.
Can’t these guys just pack it in?
July 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pmSen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) is ratcheting up his anti-Obama rhetoric. On a call with right-wing activists yesterday afternoon, he proudly proclaimed that he aims to “break” the President by defeating health reform. He also said recently that he prefers to cause “pain” to his fellow legislators rather than working on reform.
After dinner DeMint shows everyone what every Cancervatives true agenda is ; governing correctly , improving the lives of your constituents and making the US an even better place , doesn’t matter a whit.
It’s all about being a complete GOP moron and jackass…….
July 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pmThe word games these wingnuts play are really something. They feel free to change the meaning of any word. If your side acts like fascists by torturing prisoners and spying on your own people and using news propaganda, then naturally you accuse your opponents of being fascists.
Do not be fooled by anything a Republican says. They are treasonous liars to their core. I think it is becoming clear they are planning an armed civil war in the near future to establish their theocracy.
We must vote them out of power at every level of government and prepare to defend our constitution from their impending armed revolution.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pmDeMint has just declared himself an enemy to democracy and the American people. He is the reason I’ve given as much as I could to organizations fighting for healthcare reform.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pm@CitiDC
Furthermore, members of the “C Street Family” pray to be “broken” themselves. DeMint is essentially saying he is going to recruit Obama into “The Family”
July 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pmWill stimulus money be used to build that weird corral sort of thing? And I really think that we need to consider supporting whatever small town family buisness makes those giant rubber bands…
Two men enter. One man leaves… Two men Enter. One man leaves… Two men enter…
July 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pmIf anyone decides to “break” DeMint’s skull or otherwise cause him “pain”, no one would object. Well, except for his Family Brethren hell bent on screwing the country, one mistress at a time.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pmSo he does in the C Street house. I’m beginning to see a pattern here with the C Street members. Can’t wait to see what scandal will unfold with DeMint.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pmDeMint and other Republicans are practicing “doublthink (Orwell-1984)” This is the description of doublethink:
“The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them….To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.”
July 18th, 2009 at 2:23 pmDeMint is a little wrong in his time line. The US gov’t was fascist from Jan. 2001 to Jan. 2009 under the Bush Republican coup of December 2000 in which five right-wing Supreme morons stopped the Florida vote counting, stopped our democracy and installed Bush as dictator. Fascism is the combination of corporations and government power against the people. That is what we experienced under the Bush gangster regime, with the Republicans just goose-stepping right along with Bush, Cheney and Rumseld and their endless lies…
July 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmDeMint is an absolute loser. He tries to be totally un-American & succeeds very well.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmSince our government is apparently still practicing all that illegal spying stuff inside our nation, I hope every phone, every room, every crawl space in C Street House is being recorded. Sounds like a domestic terrorism safe haven if ever there was one.
BTW, does that “C” stand for what I think it does? With all that in ‘n out activity by a bunch of amoral pricks, I think it does.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmHe’s a racist who will do anything to undermine President Obama and to embarrass himself. His hatred of President Obama (because he’s an African-American) supersedes any sense of shame that he’s is causing to himself.
He can’t see straight because President Obama is a Great African-American President.
He’s on his way out. He’ll be a lobbyist in no time.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmProud says:
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July 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
“Obama’s agenda” is cleaning up the colossal shit pile left by 8 years of the Chimpy administration ; which happens to be the worst in US history , you ignorant GOP stooge………
July 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmMaybe Prod could explain exactly what is being projected?
Do try anyway…
July 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pmProud,
We are currently cleaning up “the mess”. In fact, we will be cleaning up the mess for several generations. That is how long it will be before a Republican majority is likely.
We are removing you wingnuts from power so you do not destroy America and the world. You are obsolete.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pmDemint is demented.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:31 pm“And while promoting his new book on the G. Gordon Liddy show yesterday, DeMint agreed with Gordon — who ironically has a history of expressing sympathetic views to Nazis — that Obama has created a government like that under Hitler”
It’s all about the benjamins for DeWimp and promoting his book: “Saving Freedom: We Can Stop America’s Slide into Socialism.” And he had to promote his book on the convicted felon Liddy’s show of all places. Good grief. This is all show for DeWimp. It is sad that he is putting politics first before the people in his state that need the stimulus money.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pmThe beauty of all this overt racism is that the United States is rapidly evolving into a nation where pure white is a minority race, and the GNOP is alienating all non-whites. Add in the fact that women outnumber men, and the GNOP is doing everything it can to alienate women, and that base shrink even smaller.
Now, exclude the thinking white men of this country, and you’re left with the ignorant racist white male as your base. But you can bet that that base is armed to the teeth and willing to kill.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 2:34 pmMy diagnosis of DeMint”
July 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pm=Narcisstic Personality Disorder
=Delusions of Granduer.He’s a nobody from SCarolina but talks like he’s the King Of France.
tony and lido
prod, if you’re going to play the “much” game, you simply must remember the question mark.
It’s “Project much?” See how that works? Without the “?” it looks more like “Project MUCH”. But maybe that’s the acronym you intended:
Project
Male
Uneducated
Christianista
Haters
Seems about right.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pmSeems lilke Prods boy Bush didn’t think dissent was such a good thing.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pmAnyone remembering him condeming the your on my side or your a terrorist lines.? I don’t
tony and lido
Gregor Samsa says:
[...]confusing the Nazis and Germany’s Social Democrats is a scandal. The Social Democrats were the main source of opposition to Hitler[...]
Yeah, but those are facts…
Republicans and conservatives in general don’t use terms in the literal sense to try to draw a parallel, let alone to learn the lessons of history.
They use words like “National Socialism” to mean “something I think it’s really, really bad”, regardless of whether it actually applies or what it means.
They are going for rhetorical effects -we all know accuracy and rigorous adherence to facts are not the right wing’s forte.
Huh?
They are straight up liars and warmongers.
No question about that. They keep “forgetting” (because they are idiots) things aren’t what they used to be. They can’t lie in one state and and try to get away with it in another state. The internet and progressives aren’t going to let them get away with their bs any freakin more.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pmSo Prod cannot explain what is being projected.
I didn’t think so.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pmProud says:
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July 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
You are a hypocritical pansy insect ; I know you were one of those Bush Adoration Brigade morons who would regularly call anyone who even questioned Bush the Retarded Boy Blunder an anti-American , traitor and/or a terrorist/terrorist sympathizer.
Get lost , you sorry little pissant………..
July 18th, 2009 at 2:44 pmHi Proud…
July 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pmBTW, I would fight to the death Prod’s right to express himself…and I’m sure he would fight to the death our right to point and laugh at him.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:46 pmWhy do trolls believe that progressives/dems/liberals would want to keep anyone in the party if they think like a freakin repug? WHY?
And I hope trolls and repugs are the 3% that won’t use the public Option.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
proud says:
If your idea is to squash all opposition to anything concerning Obama then that is the most UN-American thing you can do. Dissenting opinons are the backbone of this country.
no one is squashing opposition – there is no need as every time the party of NO opens their mouth or votes they further fall down the rat hole.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pmCongress is hardly acting like a Council of Corporations. Since Reagan, Congress embarked on a course to deregulate corporations. The Libertarians think we need to deregulate even more which is a roadmap to the end of the middle class. Deregulation takes us back to the turn of the 20th century and the abuses that nonregulation created. After 24 years of deregulation, the free market system failed because there was no oversight. We need some regulation on corporations to check the unbridled greed.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pmShorter Cowardly Sniveling Halfwit: “Dissenting opinons are the backbone of this country. Therefore, please stop saying anything that I don’t like.”
July 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pmAlejandro says:
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July 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
And your posts more closely resemble a pile of fecal matter than anything that can readily be considered intelligent ……
July 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pmProudtobeSTUPID says
Proud you are such an ignorant piece of garbage. It must just suck to be a stupid, brainwashed cretin like you are. The man says he is going to break the President and cause pain to any legislator that doesnt do things his way and you REALLY DID come in here and snivel like the subhuman punk you are that WE are attacking the poor GOP. Why dont you just STFU and stop humiliating yourself by constantly showing with your every post how stupid and pathetic you are.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pmBut I thought Obama was a Marxist?
If one thing is clear, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are the dumbest men on T.V.
This clip is proof that Glenn Beck is an idiot.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2213
July 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pmWe need a mental health czar to address the psychological disturbances projecting out of C- Street House.
Or maybe this is just the side effects of all that pharmaceutical payola.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pmThis guy is in the wrong venue. He needs to join the WWF and get a better gimmick, perhaps “The Dirty Politician”.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pmJust imagine him saying these things in a wrestling ring with a funny outfit and a bunch of goons standing around him nodding their heads in agreement and it all comes together nicely.
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Seriously, it’s treason. And its very close to being a call to insurrection.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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July 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Ronnie Retard sucked ass , tool………..
July 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pmAlejandro says:
July 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Are you just going to complain, or are you going to do what you can to make the situation better?
And yes, I know that commenting on a blog doesn’t change anything — but most people do other things as well.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pmRepublians throw labels around like celebrants throw rice at a wedding. When “good” Repugs sit on there hands and refuse to speak out about his garbage they are tacitly approving of Demint and others, like Buchanan. When people start getting seriously injured and/or killed over Obama policy iniatives it will these people who call for martial law: getting what they want with guns rather than ballots.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Germany, France, Canada, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Japan, Ireland, and Great Britain have socialist forms of government. In their societies, quality of life for everyone comes before obscene corporate profits.
I’d rather have two heaping buckets full of French or German style socialism rather than the “steal from the poor / give everything to the rich” system that we have in America.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pmAlejandro says:
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July 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Quite frankly , I don’t give a shit whom you agree with , twerp …Your posts are devoid of any and all usefulness , and are just a moronic excuse for you to basically claim everyone who doesn’t think , agree and like whom you like , is misguided , ignorant and/or blind.
Break out of the stupid of your way being the right way because you’re someone who isn’t gullible and are highly intelligent ; you are neither…………
July 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pmAlejandro says:
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What do you think I should do?
July 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Leaving and never returning comes to mind ………
July 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pmAlejandro says:
What do you think I should do?
July 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Writing your Rep and Senator would help, and you could write Obama directly.
That’s a start. I’m sure you could think of more.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pmAh, G. Gordon Loony, one of the shameless few of Watergate who has cashed in on being a, well, for lack of a better word, a Nazi.
His ignorance of economic structure is quite evident though. He probably never met a corporate fascist that he didn’t like.
DeMint (DeMented?) is already a pain for everyone. Why can’t he do something different and try to find a way to improve the world instead of making it worse than it already is? (no need to address that – it’s rhetorical)
July 18th, 2009 at 3:49 pmDemint wants to cause pain in the senate, hes causing me pain just trying to figure out how he and the rest of the repugs who think like him can be in office. His job is to work for the American people. He clearly doesnt give a sht about the people he works for. Anything positive that President Obama tries to accomplish for the country Demint and the rest of the goons in the repug party try to squash it. Then I get a headache trying to figure out who would vote for a person who obviously doesnt care about them. Damn now I need to take a vicodin.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:50 pmVirtual Pebble says, “DeMint (DeMented?) is already a pain for everyone. Why can’t he do something different and try to find a way to improve the world instead of making it worse than it already is?”
If Demint tried to make life better for the average American, he would be kicked out of the Republican Party faster than you can say “Bush and Cheney lied about WMDs in Iraq”.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pmTypical Republican “strategy”: when you’ve got nothin’, talk tough.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:00 pmDeMint(ia) needs to be locked up. And as far as Liddy is concerned, is there any way a sitting president can revoke a pardon issued by a previous president? Probably not, but it might not be a bad idea to consider.
Sanford, Graham, and DeMint. Ok, I’ll bite and ask the obvious question: WTF is wrong with the voters in that obviously pitiable domain? Just think, had it not been for the Civil War, SC would be someone else’s problem. Hmmm.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:02 pmDo Republicans stand for anything other than hate? Every time they open their mouth out tumbles more hate. Down a couple of articles the new Young Republican chairman responded “LOL” to a comment about “coons”. They are sick to the core. It seems that some things never change.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pmDallasNE says:
Yes. Fear and obstruction. And crime. They’re really good at crime. It’s not that they’re so smart they never get caught, but rather that they publicly admit to their crimes and still avoid any consequences.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pmYes. They also stand for tax cuts, no matter what the situation.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:13 pmWhatever happened to supporting our president in a time of war?
July 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pmCream DeMint is a theocrat Nazi who is just aching to establish a United States of Jesus, a holy roller theocracy.
Don’t kid yourselves about the repiggies. They are either totally on board, or totally disinterested in the future.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pmProud says:
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I hear you all, if the GOP is obsolete why the constant attacks? What purpose does it serve, seriously. If your idea is to squash all opposition to anything concerning Obama then that is the most UN-American thing you can do. Dissenting opinons are the backbone of this country.
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July 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pmI agree with you that dissention is the backbone of our democracy. The dissention that has been served this President is disgraceful, disgusting and UN American, I believed it’s called “Principled Conservatism”.
What I have seen of “Principled Conservatism” appears to be raciest, fear mongering, and self-serving, and does not qualify for “principled dissention”.
DeMint’s comments and arguments are placing him on the fringe. There is no leadership or honesty in this man. You sell out your integrity when you act as the spoiler, and that is not legitimate dissention.
Duh. That’s only for Republican presidents.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pmDallasNE says “Do Republicans stand for anything other than hate?”
ralph the wonder locust says, “Yes. They also stand for tax cuts, no matter what the situation.”
Republicans stand for tax cuts but only for the wealthiest 1% of Americans. Ronald Reagan said, “Greed is good”. George W. Bush said that more greed is even better.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pmralph the wonder locust says:
Damn, I always forget that!
July 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmDrago said the same thing to Rocky in Rocky IV, remember?
He said “I must break you“.
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And we all know how that turned out for Drago.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pmralph the wonder locust says:
TeleMan says:
Whatever happened to supporting our president in a time of war?
Duh. That’s only for Republican presidents.
But he’s not really the president! Remember: birth certificate.
Incidentally, when things get boring here at TP, you can always hang out at Obama Conspiracy Theories. It’s a hoot.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pmThis is just my hypothesis so you can take it or leave it. One of the reasons why many politicians from the South are striking at Obama can be traced to the old Dixiecrats. Before Reagan many chairmanships were held by powerful Southern politicians. After Reagan, the political realignment of the South accelerated with the end result that most of the Southern states are now Republican. In 1994 when the Republicans took control of Congress, many Southern politicians held a lot of the chairmanship of committees. Since 2006, the Southern politicians have been locked out of the chairmenships. They are not accustomed to having power in Congress. This loss of power is very difficult for them to accept so we get the racist comments and psycho talk about Socialism, Nazism, etc.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pmThat should read: They are not accustomed to not having power in Congress.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pmDeMint is a member of The Family as documented by Jeff Sharlet in his NYT bestseller “The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power”
When you read the book you will realize that these “C Street” traitors are anti-American theocratists. DeMint is an enemy of democracy and very dangerous in his conspiracies.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pmHas anyone noticed that since the new “Vote Down” buttons were installed no one votes “up” a comment anymore?
There are no votes for comments. Just votes against them.
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Just an observation.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pmpags2 says:
This is just my hypothesis so you can take it or leave it. One of the reasons why many politicians from the South are striking at Obama can be traced to the old Dixiecrats. Before Reagan many chairmanships were held by powerful Southern politicians.
You’ve got the right idea but you’re a few years late. The Southern Strategy started with Nixon in 1968. Reagan’s team knew how to use the correct buzzwords, but the real work had been done well before them.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pmwayne, see post #54. it has -6 it reflects the total of vote up/vote down. Any positive number is plus.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pmOh, I get it. duh….
Thanks Fred.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmWAYNEBRO, I think what’s happening is that there are some in the shadows who do nothing but vote down. Since the tally is a net of all votes, the previous “recommend only” numbers are lower.
I’ve seen comments go from “0″ to “-1″ to “2″ and back down to “0″.
While the system may skew the up votes, I am still grateful for the community’s ability to collapse the most offensive comments.
One of life’s many trade-offs.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmWaynebro.
I was confused by the same misunderstanding.
Because the |(number)| is to the right of the Vote Down Icon…it also seemed to me that this number is the number of Negative Comments.
Not True…it is the number of ups, minus the number of downs.
I’ll agree it is confusing….but there is NO way that these sensible comments are being voted down by the sensible posters at this site. Troll comments are a different matter.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmTrue, but I was confused actually. I didn’t notice the “minus” signs on some differentiating them from the up votes.
I was being stooopid, but Fred squared me away.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pmDon’t feel so all alone Wayne, it was confusing for most of us when first introduced……
July 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pmLets get real here. If anyone reminds us of the Nazi party, hands down it is the republican party. Through their use of fear after 9/11 (Reichstag fire) the trashing of our laws and constitution, the intimidation to those who opposed them, the repeated lies until they become the truth mantra, the genocide of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, the politicization of the Justice system, vote caging, electronic voter fraud, voter disenfranchisement, lying the country into war…Sorry DeMint you better check your history before you spew such garbage.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pmRepublicans have this way of making a statement and having it debated when there is nothing to debate.
Hitler and the SS killed the social democrats and the “Leftist Nazi’s”, including his long time butt buddy, Ernst Rohm.
This is a matter of simple history.
There’s not “two sides” to it and it isn’t open for debate.
The social democrats ended up in the Nazi death camps. End of story.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pmSociopaths and their enablers winning the hearts and minds of other sociopaths and enablers—and even regular people— had a short run of success after 9/11. Shock and Awe. It doesn’t work on a normal business day, except in foreign affairs.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pmdixie blood says:
DeMint is a member of The Family as documented by Jeff Sharlet in his NYT bestseller “The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power”
When you read the book you will realize that these “C Street” traitors are anti-American theocratists. DeMint is an enemy of democracy and very dangerous in his conspiracies.
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Scary people indeed who have not only hijacked a political party but also a religion. Christian dominionism, the Christian identity movement all hateful, racist, theocratic and evil!
How about that preacher who runs that CULT in DC where Ensign and Coburn live while in DC. The man compared the dedication and sacrifice of the Nazi’s to the dedication and sacrifice of those who were members of his evil cult. Then there is the video where this preacher says, Jesus told his disciples that to become a disciple they must hate their fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers.
Hmmm…I wonder where all of those republicans who were so outraged over Reverend Wrights comments and sermons are today?
July 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
You’ve got the right idea but you’re a few years late. The Southern Strategy started with Nixon in 1968. Reagan’s team knew how to use the correct buzzwords, but the real work had been done well before them.
Nixon may have started it but the Reagan years saw the culmination and the greater number of Southern Dems who became Republicans. During Nixon’s years, the Dixiecrats still had the power and were Dems in name only. The shift accelerated after Reagan. You will still find areas in the south were the Democrats hold the political offices but they are Dems in name only.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pmOn the outside and in public, Senator Tom Coburn is a vocal opponent to abortion. But I get this strange feeling the guy performs abortions for his republican co hearts after they get one of their mistresses pregnant.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:21 pmI also like the up-down vote. If any regulars here get a vote down its most likely a childish wingnut playing games.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm“Thou shall NOT Commit Adultery”
God said so in the Bible.
So my question is… what were these C Street Hypocrites Studying in their Bible Studies???
July 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmBadger says:
“Thou shall NOT Commit Adultery”
God said so in the Bible.
So my question is… what were these C Street Hypocrites Studying in their Bible Studies???
The Republicans think they are exempt from the Ten Commandments.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pmDeMints first loyalty is to “The Family” and the Freedom Foundation,
Not the the United States of America.
So he broke his oath to office.
He should at least, be dismissed of his position as senator,
if not tried for treason.
The same should go for all these Family cult members.
Separation of church and state is constitutional law.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pmProbably numerology.
Mysticism.
Watching Nicolas Cage in “National Treasure 2, Book of Secrets”.
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Just a guess mind you.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pm.
Shorter DeMint:
FEAR the Marxist/Fascist/Socialist/Commie/Pinko Black Man.
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July 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pmI believe you are speaking of Doug Coe and his son David Coe who “run” “The Cedars” at the end of 24th Street N. in Arlington, VA.
They run The Family as documented by Jeff Sharlet and they run the “C-Street church” too.
That’s right. The location where these enemies of democracy live on the cheap is registered with the IRS as a phucking church!!!!! And it’s part of The Family.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm.
Dear Senator DeMint,
Fascist you say?
Like Usurping the People’s Right to be secure from unwarranted searches?
Like attempting to usurp the People’s Right to Habeas Corpus?
Like usurping the People’s Right for fair representation, trial and treatment while in detention?
Like foregoing International Treaties because they are bothersome to abide too?
Like scapegoating minorities, and religions as being inherently evil?
Like the bouts of despotism as displayed by favors and positions granted to big business cronies and family members?
Like, The HOMELAND?
Yep, Mr DeMint, America has become more Fascist under your tenure. How have you fought against such a rise?
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America
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July 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmdixie,
You mean the coven of men who cheat on their wives under the auspice that they are doing their god’s work?
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July 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pmBTW, The word “break” appears early on and often in Jeff Sharlet’s account of these traitors in “The Family”.
They want to “break” people for Christ. They want to “break” people to believe as them.
They are facist, Christianistas who would like to stay out of sight and phuck democracy from the shadows. They are enemies of the state!!!!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 5:52 pmwell stated but like communism worked as a fear factor so will socialism work as a fear factor.
russel nailed it here with this quote of his.
“Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty which are embodied in one maxim: the fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate” Bertrand Russell.
those that have want to keep on having and they are smart enough to know how to keep a dumbed down america in world affairs full of fear.
it sure worked with keeping americans afraid of communism to keep our wars for profits intact.
dont fret capitalism will self destruct like communism did in fact it is self destructing now but our politicans prefer to call it a recession and in a dumbed down society recession will work. ie for awhile. :-)
July 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pmSen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) says, “I prefer to cause “pain” to fellow legislators rather than working on reform.”
It’s true that Republicans like DeMint enjoy causing pain and suffering, especially to the people he represents. The DeMint/GOP economic policies of the past eight years has caused South Carolina’s unemployment rate to soar to 12.1 percent, one of the highest in the country.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pmTo me, this socialism stuff has me considering some kind of totalitarian system where stupid people get persecuted, perhaps tasered, for saying patently false, outright stupid sh*t.
Something needs to be done because all this bold-faced dishonesty, all these people who feel they’re entitled to their own facts needs to be criminally punished. I’d be okay with the general public thinking whatever the hell they want but for any public figure including TV and Radio personalities and especially government officials there should be ethics charges… something, to regulate their discourse so their not so loose with the truth.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pmSo is it a case of psychological projection when facists go around accusing others of being facists?
July 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pmBadger says:
They too were busy coveting their neighbor’s wife (or husband) then bearing false witness while planning how they could steal more from We the People and covering up for the murders committed in the name of patriotism.
PEACE
July 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pmI believe that the ‘C” Street Combo Bible Fellowship and Group Home for Members of Congress is in reality, a secret gay club!
July 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmDid the C street cult dictate the congressional votes to their members? If so it is a thousand times worse. Who is Congress knew that a cult was working behind the curtin manipulating public policy? Talk about the need for an investigation.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pmCorrection: “this socialism stuff Republicans/conservatives keep accusing Obama of…”
July 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pmI just finished reading The Family by Jeff Sharlet. Scared the heck out of me! DeMint is a card carrying member of the “Family”. They consider themselves the chosen. Graced with power because they have submitted to Jesus–not the Jesus we normally think of–helping the poor etc.–the Jesus of power. They admire Hitler, Stalin and Mao because they were able to change the world/grab power with just a few people initally–all in secret–just like members of the Family. And get off the morality bandwagon–these guys believe morality is a secular construct. It doesn’t apply to them. You need to read the book.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pmCan’t tax exempt status be revoked for the C Street establishment, for their overt involvement in politics?
Isn’t it a violation of ethics laws for members of Congress to accept subsidized rent?
July 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pmIf there were anyone who ever defined the “hateful, anti-American, unpatriotic, bigoted, smearing, stupid, loser, treasonous, radical right-wing terrorist extremist– it’s DeMint. For the love of God, throw this hateful, anti-American, anti-Constitution reject out. What a total loser.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmDeMint is so totally deranged, it’s hard to comment on him. He’s a psycho. Another Repub, uninformed, loser psycho.
July 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pmdasm says, “If there were anyone who ever defined the “hateful, anti-American, unpatriotic, bigoted, smearing, stupid, loser, treasonous, radical right-wing terrorist extremist– it’s DeMint.”
DeMint is a reflection of the people who he represents. When DeMint leaves, South Carolina will just elect another hateful, racist extremist.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:09 pmIf the ‘government is fascist” than what does that make DeMint?
July 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm.
FASCISM…
14 Points.
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=britt_23_2
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections
Expanded with examples…
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14_pts/14ptsGOP.htm
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July 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pmSee what the right wingers are doing? They think by saying “national socialism” Americans will confuse it with the National Socialists during Hitler’s time which were Nazis! If we were to life DeMint’s skirt up we would find the Nazi swastika there!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm8 years of George Bush was fascism, but DeMint had no problem with that. It’s socialism that helps the needy out that makes the man cringe!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pmMax @ 117 – It never ceases to amaze me how many neoCons misuse the term facism. I would like to say it never ceases to amaze me how many of them are completely ignorant of history a la DeMint and Liddy, but considering their never-ending attack on education, it amazes me not one bit.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pmAre there any sane individuals in the GOP or in the Republican Party? What is wrong with those guys. Are the inmates running the insane asylum? The Republican Party looks like one big insane asylum, each individual trying to be more stupid than the other.
Let’s face it, folks, America cannot afford to let these republican fools run about. They must be locked up and their political institutions destroyed. America wants that!
July 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pmFascism is alive and well in America but not in the Democratic party.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pmThe Moderate Squad says:
It never ceases to amaze me how many neoCons misuse the term facism.
I no longer find it remarkable. One must remember that these people are contemptuous of learning and intellectualism. They don’t bother learning what words mean, they just apply the scary ones, like “fascism”, to things they can’t understand. All they need to know is that it’s a scary word and the meaning never enters their minds.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pmIs Damnit gay? With Republicans one can’t tell.
July 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pmLiddy says…
National Socialism is “where the government allows private people to continue to own industrial capacity and what have you but tells them what they may — must do with it.”
C’mon…this describes America during World War II. American Industry turned on a dime…making Jeeps,Tanks, Planes, and Liberty Ships instead of Fords and Chevys.
This was America United AGAINST the Nazis.
In fact…. I can’t think of a time when America was More United.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:01 pmDeMint is so limp/lame to think he can “break” Obama. As Seneca said, “Malice drinks half its own poison.” He’s lucky that he can rely on his Senate health care. I don’t want him to die though, I just want to see the expression on his face when Obama’s health care plan is signed into law.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pmI think I would like to send an email message to Senator DeMint. Does anyone have his contact info?
I would also like to send an email to everyone that voted for this fascist maggot.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pmpags2 says:
The Republicans think they are exempt from the Ten Commandments.
blue53 @111 is right. These members of The Family think they are special leaders who do not abide by the same rules as the masses.
I think it is also important that all the founders of the four largest electronic voting machine companies (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia and SAIC) were theocrats who did not believe in democracy or the Constitution.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pmThis kind of Republican bigotry and hate language must be made public on a wider basis. This must be exposed so that their supporters can learn and understand what these “public” servants are saying as our leaders. It is disgusting and wrong, unethical and no-longer belongs in our country. It is a hold over from days of lynching, the KKK and apartide. These people must learn that this attitude is no longer acceptable in our society.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pmWhat’s scary about socialism? YIKES! I’VE SAID THAT WORD!!
ARRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAGH!
July 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pmI think if we could slice all the racist, idiotic statements made by the gop and string them together in an ad, it would make an excellent ad for re-election for Obama or any other dem.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
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pags2 says:
This is just my hypothesis so you can take it or leave it. One of the reasons why many politicians from the South are striking at Obama can be traced to the old Dixiecrats. Before Reagan many chairmanships were held by powerful Southern politicians.
You’ve got the right idea but you’re a few years late. The Southern Strategy started with Nixon in 1968. Reagan’s team knew how to use the correct buzzwords, but the real work had been done well before them.
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gummble-bee-itch,
I think you have it 95% right, you left out mention of George Wallace, a Southern Dem Govenor who ran as an independent. Wallace “peeled” away a lot of Dem votes largely because of LBJ’s civil right agenda.
Nixon’s winning in 68 was part southern strategy, and part “gift” from Wallace Democratic defectors.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pmIt’s going to take awhile to get all the fascist theocrats out of office. They got where they are starting at local school boards with a long term agenda, then on from there to state offices and then nationally. The fundies in their mega-churches voted them in while most Americans weren’t paying attention or even bothering to vote. It’s really sinister what happened.
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The people who elected DeMint should be embarrassed to show themselves in public.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pmThe man is determined to effect woe, if not harm, upon the people of the United States, as he speaks of deliberately working against Obama for the sake of PARTISANSHIP!!
Where is the RNC when their idiots speak in terms like this?
I personally would like to see this man censured, then removed from office.
Jim DeMint is mentally ill.
I actually think that whenever these thugs make this kind of statement (Rush, DeMint, Miller, Savage, Ingraham, Coulter, Bachmann and all the other loonies) we should no longer engage in debate with them. “Obama a National Socialist” is not a debatable issue; to debate it, to refute it implies that there is even a sliver of logic in the statement that might require consideration. There is not. It is lunacy. Lets say so and move on.
Jim DeMint is mentally ill. His family should come get him.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pmTraitors and scumbags fascists calling this Administration, “Fascists”?
That is rich, wow, what fcking planet do these cretins live on?
Oh, forgot, Plant Republic Fascist Party, fck them.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:12 pmJuly 18th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
mgparrish says: America is the greatest country in the world and it is not due to socialism. For those who desire to make something out of themselves capitalism provides the highest standard of living.
Socialism is parasitic in nature. The Europeon model is just a slower ride into the abyss than the Communist states.
Back during, say Carter, the US led the world in social mobility. It is far down the list now. There are actually statistics that can determine such things. Horatio Alger is a nice story, but it does not really fit the reality of the US today. For instance, college education used to be affordable to a much higher percentage of the population than it is today. And you used to be able to get somewhere without a college education. Not today.
For British citizens, an Oxford or Cambridge education costs about $1,000 per year. And if your parents cannot afford that, then it is free. Every British citizen can go on to higher education if they wish.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:28 pmfrom the Wiki:
“In 1980, Liddy published an autobiography, titled Will, which sold more than a million copies and was made into a television movie. In it he states that he once made plans with Hunt to kill journalist Jack Anderson, based on a literal interpretation of a Nixon White House statement “we need to get rid of this Anderson guy”.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:32 pmI dont see how no bid contracts, massive bailouts [TARP a Bush/Paulson plan] and protectionism thru lobbyists is capitalism. Its more like welfare.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:40 pmmgparrish,
Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times journalist David Cay Johnston:
“In Sweden, you are three times more likely to own a boat than you are in America. You’re much more likely to own a home free and clear. In fact, I walked up to a gaggle of bus drivers in Stockholm, and it turned out every one of them owned two houses—a city house or apartment and a country home—and every one of them owned them free and clear. What are the odds in the American economy that you could find a dozen bus drivers anywhere who owned one house free and clear?”
July 18th, 2009 at 10:43 pmmgparrish says: America is the greatest country in the world
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Hi mgparrish. I have heard this many times but I have never seen the metadata. Can you show me how this conclusion was drawn?
And demint is doing it for the country, right? No he’s doing it for his his constituents, right?
he’s making a racist point and looks like a idiot doing it.
I haven’t met a logical racist yet.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:53 pmdbadass, uhh, because we can beat anyone’s ass in the world?
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Wasn’t Al Capone practicing “free market capitalism”?
July 18th, 2009 at 11:12 pmI said it was a Bush Paulson plan and made no mention of their choice of party.
I think you need to have your crystal ball checked for cracks as I also did not mention my political ideology.
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But, if you traveled the world, wouldn’t you be leaving it?
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He went to jail because we don’t have totally free capitalism, we put rules, laws, regulations on it. He went to jail because he didn’t pay taxes on all his income. Are there taxes in your definition of free market capitalism?
July 18th, 2009 at 11:25 pmAmerica you can love ot leave it.
I think I’m having a flashback to the early 70’s. Anybody want to sing along with John Prine “Your flag decal won’t get you into heaven anymore…”
July 18th, 2009 at 11:25 pmIts the people that make a country great. When we dont care for our own countrymen and deny them medical care because profits are more important and government, which is for by and of the pepole, to protect insurance company profits by denying others, something is wrong.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:25 pmmgparrish
July 18th, 2009 at 11:27 pmDid you just make a comment about honest debate after that lame answer about the greatest of the USA? You even made the mistake of referring to the US as America. Any sincere traveller of the Americas would have known better…
I travelled the world, lived outside the US for twelve years and worked in three other countries. Does that make me knowledgeable or an unpatriotic scoundrel for leaving my country? You know, contrary to conservative belief, European countries do not allow any American to reside there just because they are Americans.
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Our economic collapse wasn’t caused by any kind of capitalism. It was caused by unregulated greed that pervaded our economy for more than 30 years. I’ll even meet in the middle and admit to the culpability of Democrats. But it’s impossible to absolve the GOP who have held power for roughly 30 of the last 40 years. Every time something blows up in their face they whine about the “librul media” or “activist judges” or some such rot.
And the Bush Administration was the worst of the bunch. His biggest crime against the economy may turn out to be his insistence on putting those with the most to gain by greed in charge of their own, for profit, industries. It’s almost identical to the follow up to the Great Depression and, though it appears the free fall has slowed, it could still turn out worse. And the poor demented GOoPers have nothing to offer aside from trying to shift blame to those who told them to stop long ago.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:30 pmmgparrish says:
You are a real comedian. It’s a shame some cannot debate honestly.
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And it’s just as sad when some have no real point to make and aren’t the least bit of aware of it…
July 18th, 2009 at 11:30 pmmgparrish,
July 18th, 2009 at 11:32 pmIf Henry Paulson and Goldman Sachs comes under your definition of “the left”, you got some pretty ignorant definitions!
Free market capitalism could only work if people were 100% honest.
And we all know that greed prohibits honesty
July 18th, 2009 at 11:33 pmWhy should I include the sins of the left when I didnt include sins of the right? I am not engaging in group think here and when I mentioned Bush/Paulson It was about TARP not [elected/unelected] conservatives.
Yes, you can read. However what you are doing is projecting your opinion of what my ideology is so you can rationalize, wrongly, your attacking my supposed ideology.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:37 pmmgparrish says: America is the greatest country in the world
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One only has travel the world to understand. America you can love ot leave it.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
And your point is? Seems we discuss something and you wander off a bit?
WHAT I SAID WAS A VERY DIRECT RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU SAID. I DID NOT WANDER IN THE SLIGHTEST. COURSE, I WAS FILLING IN THE BLANKS TO MAKE SENSE OF YOUR PIDGEN ENGLISH!
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Maybe I am confused because you are including every single Democrat as coming under “the left”, which is ridiculous in my opinion.
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“Social Democrats stand for a generous welfare state and active labor market policies. Nazis try to conquer the world and send people to the gas chamber”.To compare Obama to Hitler
July 18th, 2009 at 11:47 pma hoot,man the Republiscum Channel is ROTFLLAMF,this sounds very Fascist coming from the REICH Wing nut Mr.DeMint.
mgparrish says:
Like so many here, deep down you hate America, just my opinion. You don’t have to state it, so I’m not claiming you said it directly.
An excellent example of you shooting off your mouth when you don’t have the slightest idea what you are talking about!
You criticize the policies of the US as much as anyone else here, and noone said YOU hate America.
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Why don’t we get back on topic. Which is:
DeMint’s discourse: Government is fascist, says he will ‘break’ Obama and cause the Senate ‘pain.’
not: The All About mgparrish Hour
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Like so many here, deep down you hate America, just my opinion.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:53 pm—
Now ould this opinion also be based on extensive global travel as well or is this just another platitude that warms your belly?
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First, you would havw to define what the ‘center’ of this mythical political gauge actually means.
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#169,It may be that the Bush crime family has left this country in a MESSOPATAMIA here as well as Iraq.It is a proven fact that a Universal Health care plan will do a lot for this country in spurring job growth in the medical field and will pay for itself.Ask you favorite re-puke why other industrialized country`s base their H.C. on either our Medicare & Medicaid for our low income and elderly or they use our socially Democratic V.A for our heroes who fight for our freedoms unfortunately based on lies, also ask the re-pukes if they will give up their H.C. that is socialized that we pay for with our taxes so their pay is also socially Democratic. Sorry about ranting…..
July 18th, 2009 at 11:58 pmIf you loved your country wouldnt you want to see it healthy?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:00 amKeith says:
Why don’t we get back on topic. Which is:
DeMint’s discourse: Government is fascist, says he will ‘break’ Obama and cause the Senate ‘pain.’
I don’t think DeMint loves America.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:00 amlike apple pie…
July 19th, 2009 at 12:01 amFascism is a Publican way of life.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:02 amWho is this mgparrish? The ghost of Joe McCarthy?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:04 amLess government with less private influence.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:05 amDo you think we need more governement or less government?
I think we need good government.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:08 amReagan greatly increased government. Clinton reduced government. Bush II greatly increased government.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:09 amIt is borderline hilarious for a zit like DeMint to think he can ‘break’ Obama. He’s damned lucky Obama still wants to play nice and reach his hand across the aisle. This time next year, after being unable to get Rethugs to compromise on anything Obama will be using the woodchipper on this moron.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:10 amNquest says:Something needs to be done because all this bold-faced dishonesty, all these people who feel they’re entitled to their own facts needs to be criminally punished.
I’m with you. Then we could shut and lock the doors of the capitol building a year or two until we find someone that doesn’t lie.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:10 amWe need government that benefits the American people—not a bunch of greedy unpatriotic international corporations who hide their assets offshore.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:11 amKeith says:
Who is this mgparrish? The ghost of Joe McCarthy?
The echo of Michael Weiner.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:12 amPersonally, I think the word fascism has been slung around, to demonize others, so much its become a pejorative and I really wish Demint would state his case concisely instead of stirring the bias pot for his personal political gain.
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As if such a complex concept could be expressed as a linear function…
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No government would make America something like old feudal Europe and that is exactly why people left Europe and came to America.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:20 amMy objection is that government has failed the public with Medicare…its broke. Social Security…its broke.
Neither of these programs is “broke.” That’s a Republican spin point, and a very bad one, as neither program is capable of being “broke” unless the government deliberately refuses to fund it. You’ve been conned, deliberately, by the corporate conservative propaganda machine.
Social Security is in better fiscal condition than the rest of the Federal government. It has money coming in and a “trust fund” that is solvent for decades to come. People who refer to the SSTF as being “broke” or “empty” are talking in metaphors. It never consisted of money in a vault or anything similar. It is a large government accounting file, and like most large private and government cash accounts, it consists of a few documents and a some bytes of computer storage space.
Technically, the account that is the SSTF has pretty much all been loaned to the accounts the government keeps all the other tax money in, but the government “IOUs” George W. liked to crack jokes about, to the extent that they exist at all, are expressed as United States government bonds and similar financial documents. US government “IOUs” are the most secure securities in the world, the anchor of your pension fund and mine and the entire world financial system. They are good as long as this country lasts. The only thing that could destroy them would be a nuclear exchange or cataclysm that shatters the American economic system, a civil war that destroys the authority of the government, or similar.
Medicare is bleeding money but, as I noted, it is backed by the Federal government. The only way it would ever stop paying for the medical services it is required to pay for is if the Federal government deliberately choose to stop making the payments.
In the long run, the only way to bring Medicare back into financial “health” is to control medical costs. This is a condition it shares with most of the American medical system and the American economy as a whole. The American medical system is a parasite on the rest of the economy, draining off about 50% more of our wealth each year than the medical systems of other industrial countries. This wealth doesn’t cease to exist, but is transferred into the capital cycles of the economy instead of the production cycle, which makes most of us poorer, in practical terms, and makes us a lot less competitive with the rest of the world’s economies.
You can verify all this from any source where the math is not being paid by the insurance industry right-wing think tanks.
Its a matter of trust. Why should we think that this system would not go broke too???
At this point, as even the AMA and the hospital lobbies are admitting, the people running the current system are the insurance companies and their bureaucracies. The insurance companies brag openly–even in congressional testimony–how they are cutting costs by rationing or refusing to pay for the medical treatments people have paid them to cover. Do you find them more trustworthy? Ready to bet your house, your pension fund, your life savings, or your life, that they will pay for your kids’ next surgery or sickness when they have programs that pay bonuses to their people for finding ways to renege on their contracts and promises?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:22 amBob Barr claims to be a libertarian as well. It has become sort of fashionable in sort of a silly fad sort of way…
July 19th, 2009 at 12:23 amWell, so few of those on the Right feel pride in proclaiming their conservatism anymore. And even fewer are willing to cop to being Republicans.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:27 amCommunism is a far right ideology.
There. Since I’ve said it, that makes it true. Isn’t that how it works?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:28 amCommunism was a great big lie as its intent was never to put power in the peoples hands. Just look at North Korea. The people are powerless. Just as they are becoming here. And if you think dissolving government will give you more liberty I would say that wont happen.
Am I for communism? No way. I also am not for government run, basically, by a bunch if exclusionary socialist banksters [Neo-Oligarchy]
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Communism was a great big lie as its intent was never to put power in the peoples hands. Just look at North Korea. The people are powerless. Just as they are becoming here. And if you think dissolving government will give you more liberty I would say that wont happen.
Am I for communism? No way. I also am not for government run, basically, by a bunch if exclusionary socialist banksters [Neo-Oligarchy]
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Disolving govt. means anarchy, anarchy is never sustainable, it almost always leads to the other extreme.
So I mis-understood you a bit, so for that I apologize.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:33 amAll I can say is that as a Republican, both Liddy and DeMint make me very afraid. They are both so strange and cannot be trusted to keep American freedoms for ALL citizens. I often wonder how these nuts got hold of our party like they have. But alas, they were trounced in the last election and perhaps their time in the sun has ended. Let us hope and pray to God that it is so. If they recruit a vast number of nutty followers, our country is in for a lot of grief and may even be doomed. It will end up in control of a bunch like Nazis. How sad.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:34 amInteresting… if we can follow this line of “reasoning” further then our friend here has achieved the Unified Field Theory of right-wing ideology; he has successfully pinned the blame for every failure of government, anywhere, on The Left. (And of course none of the benefits of government can ever be similarly attributed to The Left. Only its failures, right?)
That must be such an awesome feeling.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:35 amCapitalism, if regulated properly and not manipulated, has provided the best system for the benefit of all.
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July 19th, 2009 at 12:36 amSounds like a call for regulations. Whom should regulate this. Should it be that big bad too big government or that greedy invisible hand that brought you Bhopal and Prince William Sound?
Do you think we need more governement or less government?
This is a meaningless question, and I don’t just mean because it’s spelled wrong.
Whenever I hear someone ask this, I am never sure how they are measuring “government”, and is this what they are asking if we want to see more of or less of. But what is that measurement? Is it the amount of money our government spends (which rose the most under Republican presidents)? Is it the number of government agencies (which also rises under Republicans)? Or is it the number of federal employees (which, hot damn, also goes up when a Republican is in the White House)?
They never seem to want to stick to one measurement. That’s just my personal observation.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:37 amWe really can’t blame the poor, stupid, trolls for everything. They can’t change the fact that they are too stupid to realize when they’re being lied to. It takes someone who’s profoundly misinformed to make the claim that Medicare and/or Social Security are “broke” either financially or structurally.
Are there horror stories? Yep. One gets horror stories about private health insurers too. But the tens of millions of people well served by SS and Medicare far outstrip the handful of horror stories.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:37 amI wonder if our friend can venture to suggest what an extreme far-right government would look like?
Aside from the “no government” cop-out, I mean. If all the evil forms of totalitarian government arise, as he suggests, out of left-wing ideology, surely there must come a point when right-wing ideology becomes oppressive and corrupt, no?
What then would that look like? Or is it simply a mythical beast?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:38 amMidland…I appreciate your objectiveness in your response.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:40 amI will check up on your sources…I think its easy to see that most Americans will never know the truth…whatever it is…because of the money machine in corporations and sleezy politicians (the ones that are…not accusing everyone here).
Thanks
July 19th, 2009 at 12:42 amI am still trying to determine how one can simultaneously regulate without manipulating….
July 19th, 2009 at 12:45 amFcuk the “Do you love your country?” bullshit!
I do love my country. I’ve always loved my country. But love of country does not equate to love of it’s leadership.
I love my child – always have, always will. BUT, I will criticize, admonish and hold my child accountable when my child does wrong. I will encourage and offer praise when my child is going in the right direction. The love remains constant.
But in GNOPerville, being critical of wrong-doing is considered unpatriotic. In their view, any love that is not blind, unquestioning love isn’t good enough. “You’re either with us or against us.”
And now we’re stuck in the shitstorm created by a small group of idiots with a large following of dumb and blind loyalists, waving flags and calling the rest of us unpatriotic.
So fcuk the question, and the questioner.
PEACE
July 19th, 2009 at 12:46 amThe problem with using a rational, cogent argument against those who want to label Obama as a fascist is that these people are not interested in hearing a rational, cogent argument.
They use the term “fascist” or “socialist” because they know these are loaded, emotion-evoking words that will stir up a passionate fear and hatred among the flock. They assume that most of their listeners and constituents do not have more than a rudimentary understanding of what these labels actually mean. And they would prefer to keep it that way.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:46 amWayne A. Schneider says:
Wayne, this question reminds me of McCain with his “No more earmarks!” campaign slogan. Sounded so fiscally responsible, so mavericky, until each earmark was looked at on an individual basis. Then the whole argument crumbled as McCain was forced to backtrack on earmark after earmark until all that remained were the pork barrel projects that were largely requested by his own party members and their bestest lobbying pals.
PEACE
July 19th, 2009 at 12:50 amNot to mention that our stupid pet trolls have managed to convince themselves that the structural problems in our financial system were somehow caused by the evil leftists.
Leaving aside the fact that there’s not a single living American Leftist and Democrats are not leftists I have to ask; When did the leftists do all this?
In the last 40 years the GOP has held the White House for 28 years, they’ve had the House and/or Senate for 30 years, and have had the SCOTUS for 26 years. But somehow they manage to convince themselves that the leftists are responsible for all ills. I think that’s the point where stupidity crosses over into mental illness.
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spencers mom says:
So fcuk the question, and the questioner.
Mom,
Such language, and so unlady like.
Here, let me do it for you…
So fcuk the question, and the questioner.
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Government spending, like health care spending should be a value proposition.
Are our tax dollars being invested in our future, our infrastructure, or pissed away on destructive shit like unnecessary wars?
Are our health care dollars buying us the best care we can afford, or lining the pockets of insurance companies?
This should be an easy call.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:57 amSo asking loaded questions = debating? More like de-baiting.
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Our govt. is supposed to be watching our backs, they are not.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:00 am—
Have you always felt this way? If not when did this thought begin to kindle in your mind? Was there ever a time you felt differently?
mgparrish says:
I was agreeing with spencersmom, and aiming that at you a$$hole
July 19th, 2009 at 1:00 ammgp, have you ever read “None dare call it conspiracy”, by Gary Davis?
July 19th, 2009 at 1:01 amLefty, you know what you meant, I know what you meant. Nuance is something the underbelly doesn’t do well.
It doesn’t even grasp that a debate would never include a simple yes/no question. But it’s too late and I’m too tired to try to educate the moronic masses.
PEACE
July 19th, 2009 at 1:04 am“…coming on Meet the Press allows you guys to frame the conversation how you really want to… and then move on.” -David Gregory from an email gotten from FOIA on Governor Sanford
That dayum liberal media letting politicians frame issues.
/snark
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spencers mom says: “McCain with his “No more earmarks!” campaign slogan. Sounded so fiscally responsible, so mavericky,”
Not picking a fight but seems I remember a piece of legislation Obama signed recently touting it as not having any earmarks. Maybe someone could help me remember which bill that was.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:08 ammom,
I attribute it to the Republican control of the educational system in this country for years. It has created a whole class of people that can’t think.
Anyway, you are always so eloquent in your posts that I just couldn’t help in a little plagiarism. :)
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Xisithrus, David Gregory is a mess. He constantly interrupts his guests like it’s the MTP Lightning Round, and he doesn’t bother to listen to the answers.
Tim Russert is rolling over in his grave. I’ve deleted MTP from my DVR line up.
PEACE
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How about it mgparrish, read Gary Davis?
July 19th, 2009 at 1:12 amI see you are a person of great wisdom
Why, thank you. I am.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:13 amstickaforkinus, President Obama never campaigned with a promise to veto any spending bill or budget that came to his desk containing earmarks. Candidate Obama is wise enough to understand that nothing is purely black or white.
And it was the stimulus bill that got loaded with pet projects that never should have been included. While much of that spending was important, allowing it to be rolled into the stimulus bill was the wrong vehicle for getting it passed. A clean bill would have made a much stronger statement.
Of course, many of those pet projects were requested by and included to gain GNOP support, and of course, they voted NO in lockstep, just like the good little jack-booted soldiers they are.
PEACE
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I’m surprised. It outlines in great detail the history of the creation of the Federal Reserve, the conspiratorial plans of the Rothschilds, international bankers and the Council on Foreign Relations to rule the world.
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stickafork, please provide a link to President Obama touting the stim bill as having no earmarks. I seem to recall his desire for a clean bill, but I cannot recall him stating that the bill he signed was free of earmarks.
PEACE
July 19th, 2009 at 1:26 amThe FED was signed into being by Wilson, but congress also passed the legislation which was actually written by banskters on the Jekyll Island retreat.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:27 amAnd how many local school boards and state departments of education are controlled by Republicans? Have you read about the latest in Texas?
You are as stupid as our other troll this evening.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:28 amLefty, it is stupid, but can’t you just feel all the “concern”?
PEACE
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Lefty, it is stupid, but can’t you just feel all the “concern”?
Oh, that is “concern”. Thanks mom. I’ll have to remember that!
July 19th, 2009 at 1:32 amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
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I think I’ll just leave you two trolls alone for a bit. It’s embarrassing watching mutual masturbation on a public forum.
G’night all! You too, trolls.
PEACE
July 19th, 2009 at 2:00 am‘night mom.
Thanks for helping me play “whack a troll”!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:03 amWhy does DeMInt HATE America so much?
Is it because he is so angry that his State Governor Sanford got to have a mistress in Argintina and he did not?
Crazy conservative republicans need a public mental health care plan. Desperately!!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:03 ammgparrish says:
One only has travel the world to understand. America you can love ot (sic) leave it.
July 18th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Understand exactly what, mgparrish? Standard of living? Socioeconomic status? Consumerism? Life satisfaction? Health?
It really depends on how one compares this country to others, doesn’t it?
The US is rich and powerful, of course, but those things are not the only things. Loving one’s country is not a black or white issue, unless one is incapable of critical thinking.
Certainly, the US has accomplished some very wonderful things. No one would deny that.
But anyone who thinks we ought to be proud of invading other countries who have not attacked us, toppling democracies in other countries because we didn’t like them for some reason, or snatching away the Constitutional rights of it’s own people, allegedly to protect us, but really to gain ever more and more power, and allowing the Bush administration to loot the treasury with impunity, is the very definition of the “Ugly American.”
There is so much more harm that the US has done to other countries, but I won’t go on. The question is not, “Why do some other countries hate us?” The question is, “Why wouldn’t they hate us?”
Yes, I love this country, but there are times when I am not proud of what we do in regard to the rest of the world, and I am not afraid to say it. Just because we’re doing it, doesn’t mean it’s right.
If you can’t see that, then you are to be pitied.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:10 amZooey #258
Well said! I wish I could give you multiple vote up’s.
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Thanks, Lefty Liberal. :)
July 19th, 2009 at 2:16 ammgparrish says:
Something completely stupid.
Every post just shows your stupidity more and more. Go to a library and check out a few books and actually read them. It is amazing what you could learn if you tried.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:17 amWow. That mgparrish dude is way dumber than I thought…
Have fun playing with it, Lefty Liberal!
July 19th, 2009 at 2:18 amZooey,
It is getting late here, so I think I am going to go to bed.
It’s been nice playing the the pet trolls, but I have to get up tomorrow so I can really play “Liberal Elite” and go to an art opening. Not that any of the Republicans would think that was important or anything.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:20 amThese people are crazy.
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This mcparish guy has a bigger ego than our own b-cup.Never thought that was possible.
July 19th, 2009 at 3:12 amOn the other hand, troll manure is a great cure for insomnia at 3 in the morning.
Yawn.
tony and lido
mgparrish says:
If you claim I am dumb please point out the errors.
It’s pretty hard to debate someone who makes up his own absurd definitions. Like fuedalism being a fine example of the “far left”.
July 19th, 2009 at 5:33 amTo read this thread, you’d think history is replete with liberals turning into totalitarian dictators. ;)
Nothing like a little electoral humiliation to turn winguts into libertarians.
Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh’s kidneys flame on.
July 19th, 2009 at 6:08 amJim Jones and the Peoples Temple called themselves a “family” before they drank cool aide and died. We now we call that a cult. What the C Street “family” is also a cult. They meddle in each other’s lives, they dictate to each other their so-called moral behavior. What makes it so dangerous is that they are members of Congress. We should ask to whom do they feel more responsibility to, their voters or this bizarre cult, who apparantly feel adultery is some kind of holy sacrament.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:30 amOne other characteristic of a successful Cult is SECRECY.
The C Streeters want to Function Under the Radar.
Unfortunately for them…. Adultery, Philandering, Infidelity, Misappropriation of Tax Payer Funds, and Hush Money are Prime Grist for today’s Media.
OOOps.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:29 amWe need to take away South Carolinians right to vote
July 19th, 2009 at 9:06 amyou will make Messerschmidts
You will make F-22s fighter jets that we have no military need for.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:28 amThis health care discussion is generating quite a great deal of attention. One thing bothers me, however: the heavy reliance, by ALL OF US, on relying too much on labels…fascist,liberal,conservative,right wing loony, commie,etc. Harry Reasoner once said,”I don’t like labels.They tend to associate you with people with whom you may share only one issue.” At any rate,I hope we get a health care reform plan which includes a CHOICE of a public option. A public option CHOICE is NOT shoved down anyones throat. It is just what it says,a CHOICE. A CHOICE competes with other listings. A choice is not a mandate,it is a freedom opportunity, a choice not to choose the Public Option. A private plan is still available to be chosen, still a choice also. Both must compete.Americans have a choice then, like who to vote for.Amazing.
July 19th, 2009 at 9:34 amI suspect it’s a strategy, Keith. As long as we have to spend debate time just weeding through the wingnut’s ridiculous claims and daffynitions in order to get to the point where most reasonable debates actually begin, the wingnut isn’t ceding any ground on anything of substance.
They know they have precious little defense against well-argued logic, so they throw up these clownish earthworks on what should be common ground to hopefully exhaust the opposition.
But one wonders why they bother showing up here in the first place if their arguments are so weak to start.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:18 amOh, oh, I know who to send to the gas chamber. I know, I know. He has a big bushy mustache, and a bald head. Can you name him????? He was also convicted of a felony back in the 70’s.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am92249 says:
“Both must compete.”
If it is “MUST” then one is supported artificially. And as anyone who actaully recognizes reality knows, the gov plan is 10 times more efficient than the private plans, so which do we end up supporting.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:45 amI predict that the Medical insurance industry will be the next TARP,…. MIRP, Medical Insurance Relief Program, where we will eventually make these private insurres have no profit in medicine, they will eventually cry “uncle,” and look to the gov for relief, and get it, to support the notion of this duality for choice. So we will eventually have a public option and then a private-public supported option (constituting the “other” in your “choice” equation)
NO GOOD BASTARD!
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Keith says:
mgparrish says:
If you claim I am dumb please point out the errors.
Then Keith says: It’s pretty hard to debate someone who makes up his own absurd definitions. Like fuedalism being a fine example of the “far left”.
Then ralph the wonder locust says:I suspect it’s a strategy, Keith. As long as we have to spend debate time just weeding through the wingnut’s ridiculous claims and daffynitions in order to get to the point where most reasonable debates actually begin, the wingnut isn’t ceding any ground on anything of substance.
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And it’s pretty hard to debate someone who bobs and weaves and avoids ‘backing up’ his own charge. I suspect it’s a strategy. mgparrish says “If you claim I am dumb please point out the errors”
So, how bout it. Back up your claim.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:28 amVoted down troll called mgparrish says:
If you claim I am dumb please point out the errors.
Why would I waste my time doing that? Nothing I write here will have an affect on the absolute certainty of your ignorance.
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I really like the ‘vote up or down’ scores. You can tell who is lib or conserv without reading the post.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:00 pm“Is it beyond belief that someone could love their country but still be critical of some politicians and their ideas? Big difference.”
No, it is not beyond belief. Now, where was this attitude when progressives were criticizing the BushCo policies for the last eight years?
Effing hypocrite!
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This guy is so nutty. He’s always spewing the word freedom as the definition of the GOP. It’s such a crock. He looks like he should be on TBN.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:12 pmAw, I’m cut to the quick, stick. Us bleeding-heart-liberals are quite sensitive, you know.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:18 pmmgparrish said : “Fascism is a far left ideolgy. Fasism is an oligarchy form of government. On the far “right wing” is no government.”
ralph the wonder locust says: Interesting… if we can follow this line of “reasoning” further then our friend here has achieved the Unified Field Theory of right-wing ideology; he has successfully pinned the blame for every failure of government, anywhere, on The Left. (And of course none of the benefits of government can ever be similarly attributed to The Left. Only its failures, right?)
July 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pmYou had trouble following his line of reasoning, didn’t you?
See, it’s like this. 1 is far left(extreme oppressive). 10 is far right(no gov). 9 is gov, 8 is gov, 7 is…..
I’m still trying to get one of these folks to offer up that metadata…
July 19th, 2009 at 12:47 pmstickaforkinus says:
Man up.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hilarious.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pmMichelle Bauchman with testicles? Sarah Palin’s replacement?
July 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pmbobandweaveZooeybob says:
Zooey says:
stickaforkinus says:
Man up.July 19th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hilarious.
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July 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pmOk then, if you can’t do that, at least gal up.
*snort*
Nah, I think I’ll just let you lay there like a jellyfish on the beach.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pmZooey
July 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pmHilarious.
bobandweaveZooeybob says: Nah, I think I’ll just let you lay there like a jellyfish on the beach.
I will if you’ll scoot over a little.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pmDeMint has no credibility calling our government fascist. As a member of the C Street club and “The Family” which admires Hitler, it is DeMint that is the fascist. Ah, the Repubs are so good a projection.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:46 pmAh, the Repubs are so good a projection.
Oops… should be “the Repubs are so good at projection”.
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It’s pretty hard to debate someone who makes up his own absurd definitions. Like fuedalism being a fine example of the “far left”.
Or anarchy being a product of conservatism. I’m still scratching my head on that one.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:11 pmjaim says:
…I’m not about to give up my freedoms without a fight!
July 19th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
So you only roll over when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are taking away your freedoms, is that it?
Idiots.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:15 pmNow this? Is hilarious!
The pitiful trolls have to come back to an idle thread from yesterday to find a place where they can only hope no one sees them as they post their shit.
Kind of sad really, boys. Here’s a thought – why don’t you start your very own blog where you don’t have to worry about the Big Bad Lefties coming to vote you off the island.
I promise, cross my heart, pinky swear that I won’t stalk you to your new digs.
PEACE
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Why aren’t you wingnuts over in Iraq instead of this dead thread?
July 19th, 2009 at 11:28 pmJust commit to it, chicken shit.
Why aren’t you playing with your in-duh-vidual children this fine summer afternoon?
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Zooey says:So you only roll over when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are taking away your freedoms, is that it?”
‘Why don’t you elaborate on just what freedom Cheney and Bush took from us. I doubt you will for you are great at hurling charges then running for cover, you chicken shi****.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:29 pmNo, she got her jollies here.
Don’t get too excited now…
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‘Why don’t you elaborate on just what freedom Cheney and Bush took from us. I doubt you will for you are great at hurling charges then running for cover, you chicken shi****.
Nah, I think I’ll let Brandon Mayfield explain it to you instead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield
It’s humiliating to live in a country that Bush created where Timothy McVeigh can get on an airplane, but Cat Stevens can’t.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:33 pmJeebus, you trolls are fun, but I’ve got liberal stuff to do.
Toodles.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:34 pmZooey says:Jeebus, you trolls are fun, but I’ve got liberal stuff to do”
I think I predicted that you’d run away, you chicken shi***.
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Zooey says:Jeebus, you trolls are fun, but I’ve got liberal stuff to do”
I think I predicted that you’d run away, you chicken shi***.
Whatever dude. I think it’s more Zooey proving she can read, since I already answered your taunt and therefore she didn’t need to. But hey, if repetition is the only way you can learn:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/18/demint-nationalsocialism-nazi/comment-page-7/#comment-5729821
July 19th, 2009 at 11:46 pmspencers mom says:
Now this? Is hilarious! The pitiful trolls have to come back to an idle thread from yesterday to find a place where they can only hope no one sees them as they post their shit.
It is hilarious that you would disdain trolls for doing the same thing you are doing. You fit the difinition of a troll, troll.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:49 pmbluesunflower says:Whatever dude. I think it’s more Zooey proving she can read, since I already answered your taunt and therefore she didn’t need to. But hey, if repetition is the only way you can learn:
Nimrod, you didn’t make the charges, zoobly did. Zoobly should stand up and defend them, not a nimrod surrogate. You’re a da and she’s still a chicken shi***. Either SHE defends 4 charges OR SHE’S a chicken shi***.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:57 pmNo, that’s what we teach them about you
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They’re so cute when they splutter and stamp their feet. Come to think of it, that’s all they’ve been doing since the election. Who would have dreamed the big, bad, GOP would be reduced to a bunch of whiny toddlers after a couple elections went against them.
And just like toddlers, they don’t understand social behavior much less practice it. You’ll find that the typical right-wing authoritarian will insist on dictating a game rather than play with the toys provided. Just like they’ll smash the toys before letting anyone else play with them.
But the really sad part is that it’s impossible to even penetrate the shell of delusion they live in. They’ll doubt their own senses, why would they respond to rational discourse. Even if they read this article, much less the external links, they won’t get the point.
http://gawker.com/5052329/scientists-explain-why-people-vote-for-republicans
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Either SHE defends 4 charges OR SHE’S a chicken shi***.
Well, someone’s certainly showing they’re a chicken shi***, and it’s certainly not Zooey.
Good luck with trying to force someone to waste their time and repeat things unnecessarily, particularly since those “charges” already been answered. Night!
July 20th, 2009 at 12:16 amDeMint is delusional if he thinks such a puny little Republican can stop Obama. I guess he forgets that our party got trounced in the last election. No doubt, due to the sickos just like him. Folks like DeMint are exactly why the Republican party is so out of control of the Government at this time. And frankly, he should check with his psychiatrist because he is so wimpy he has NO power to stop anything. Poor, poor thing sould like he has delusions of grandier. No credit to our party whatsoever and he sounds totally racist besides, errr maybe just totally delusional even.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:21 amSee? No social instincts whatsoever.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:23 ampete says “And just like toddlers, they don’t understand social behavior much less practice it.
Oh but we do understand social behavior. We understand that libs are like sheep going to slaughter. They vote for a pretty face or a smooth talker. Someone says “Hope and Change” and libs swoon. Lib masses are largely uneducated and ignorant. They could care less about world events, have no concept of liberty, lack personal incentive, and think they and everyone else is intitled to anything they want.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:24 amlooks like someone already stuck a fork in you. Unfortunately, it seems to have lodged itself in your brain.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:26 amWhen the extent of the warrentless wiretapping is shown, and Habeus Corpus is restored, and the powers of the Executive to declare anyone an enemy combatant are revoked, then we’ll be back to the America we grew up in.
Why is it most of the girls who are getting knocked up are Xian fundie kids?
July 20th, 2009 at 12:26 amOne really must wonder why forky is so paranoid of gays.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:28 amI like the new troll dropping brooms, so much better than having to wade through it.
DeMint is just projecting again. He’s just mad that his wet dream of a corporate driven fascist theocracy has been at worst (for us) postponed and at best derailed altogether.
I think most politicians are allergic to the truth and facts or something. :|
July 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amRUCeriousMaggot! says:
One really must wonder why forky is so paranoid of gays.
I’m not paranoid about gays, I just don’t want my daughter to marry one. Yeah, yeah, bad joke. If I am paranoid, what’s your suspicion as to why?
July 20th, 2009 at 12:48 amRUCeriousMaggot! says:looks like someone already stuck a fork in you. Unfortunately, it seems to have lodged itself in your brain.
When the extent of the warrentless wiretapping is shown, and Habeus Corpus is restored, and the powers of the Executive to declare anyone an enemy combatant are revoked, then we’ll be back to the America we grew up in.
I think you’d better reconsider. Obama is rethinking his original opinion of all you mention and has ‘reserved the right to reinstate’ these policies he condemned Bush of. Now, he says some Gitmo detainees might be held indefinitely without trial.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:53 amBefore I exit this thread, I’d like to apologize to zooey. Not only was I rude and crude, I was exceedingly rude. Having said that I offer the advice that she refrain from namecalling and personal attacks. (of which I did both in later posts). Yes, even to you bluesunflower I apologize. You must be a good friend to defend zooey.
However, If personal attacks continue against me, I SHALL RETURN :-)
July 20th, 2009 at 1:44 amOk, I’m finished having sex with the college kids in my neighborhood (the boys and the girls), ate a couple tofu burgers, marched in a protest against the war, indoctrinated 17 grade school kids into the bisexual lifestyle, and scheduled my next abortion.
What’s up…?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:51 amG. Gordon Liddy, defender of freedom… hey, are you old enough to remember BREAKING THE LAW as a political lackey for your Fuhrer, Nixon? What was next after Cambodia to blitz? If he told you to shoot a Black man for sport you would have.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:14 amOh and Demint is farking mad, too. Hitler would revel in the War on Turr… every CITIZEN can be abducted and sent to a camp, with no recourse, and most Muslims could probably be openly arrested in daylight and brought in, maybe with only the ACLU to argue it.
And of course all the Jewish people who vote Democrat (most) or oppose gov’t war-mongering are undermining leftists engaged in sedition, “planning” terrorist acts. Peace groups are already monitored and infiltrated, even nuns.
And financial modernization, help for multinational corps, nobody can doubt The Troops and the contractors, maybe domestic deployments soon…
Obama hasn’t done enough but he isn’t a repeat.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:21 amZooey:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:23 amDidn’t you have time to smoke up a fatty as well and hug a tree?
youtubeand, Obama has answered this junkie very well today, saying that this is not about person or politicssohbet this is about a country healthcare. But some people has no brain to understand that.
July 20th, 2009 at 6:53 pmZooey says: Ok, I’m finished having sex with the college kids in my neighborhood (the boys and the girls), ate a couple tofu burgers, marched in a protest against the war, indoctrinated 17 grade school kids into the bisexual lifestyle, and scheduled my next abortion.
no more ‘free sex’ is a good start but you must show more restraint with the tofu. Marching is ok. Exercise, regardless of the cause is good. Hope none of the grade school kids were yours. No comment about the abortion.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:30 pmoops, I forgot. I exited this thread.
stickaforkinus…
Isn’t it kinda funny how all comments against Obama, healthcare reform, and the like, all get voted down? I am rather amused by this! And we are the closed-minded ones? I think not!!!!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 6:58 pmOne must understand that the reason Republicans cannot hold a thought of any reasoning is because they seem to talk or shout all at once and at each other. They never listen. Nothing but noise goes through one side of the ears and comes out the other.
They have become jokes at and of any given hour. The jokes have become so natural than no one has to say anything. It’s just there.
Every time I hear a Republican or even see a republican, I sort of grin. What is really frightening now is they can now sense it. They have no concept of what truth is and shame or insults have no meaning for them.
Poor fools!
July 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pmI am shocked that you all actually BELIEVE in what this president is telling you. Talk about not having a clue!! Obama hasn’t even read the health care reform bill, but you think that he is telling the truth. More talk show hosts have read it than any of the people who SHOULD be reading it. It states on page 16, I believe, that the citizens will not have a choice to keep their existing health care plan. How much more clearer do you need it? Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourselves for a change!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm