Limbaugh: Obama has a ‘chip on his shoulder’ because he’s ‘black.’
Limbaugh: Obama has a ‘chip on his shoulder’ because he’s ‘black.’
In an interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren last night, right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh said President Obama was more “passionate” during Wednesday night’s news conference about the arrest of his friend, Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates, than he was about health care. Limbaugh said the reason was clear: Obama is “black” and that as a result he’s “got a chip on his shoulder“:
LIMBAUGH: I think Obama is largely misunderstood by a lot of people. … We’re finding out that this guy’s got a chip on his shoulder. He’s angry at this country. He’s not proud of it. […]
Let’s face it, President Obama’s black, and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder. I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked. And he’s using the power of the presidency to remake the country.
Watch it:
This is not the first time Limbaugh has characterized Obama as an angry black man. On his radio show in March, Limbaugh said Obama “has a chip on his shoulder, and his wife does too, and they are some angry people.” Limbaugh has also chastised people for being afraid to “criticize the little black man-child,” referred to Obama as “Barack the Magic Negro,” complained that he “disowned his white half” and warned that Obama is of “Arab-African” descent. Nevertheless, Limbaugh says race is not an issue for him.
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July 24th, 2009 at 11:43 amParaphrasing Dean Wormer form Animal House:
Rich, white and stupid is no way to go through life, son
July 24th, 2009 at 11:43 amOxybreath claims PRESIDENT Obama is angry at his country and he’s not proud of his country.
Yet he still ran, and WON.
That seems odd.
No offense, but I wouldn’t run for athletic director of Ohio State University if I was angry with that college.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:44 amAnd you’re a fat , racist slob because you’re a Republican ………
July 24th, 2009 at 11:44 amWell, this ought to put to a test b-cup’s recent efforts at reasonableness…
July 24th, 2009 at 11:46 amraynman says:
Actually, Dean Wormer told Flush Limpdick:
fat and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Obviously, Limpdick didn’t listen.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:46 amRush has a chip on his shoulder because he is an overweight, uneducated, drug addicted, blow hard, racist.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:48 amIs that why Ted Kennedy has been working on this for decades? Moron.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:49 amJust consider the source….someone who’s never put anybody but himself first..just like the rest of the Republiscum Party.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:50 amthe ol’ twist and shout…
the ONLY reason there are ANY problems with ANYthing that is being worked out for the citizens of the USA is because the President is a black man…
the idjits are afraid of the black man…
the idjits do not like being presided over by a black man…
limpballs is right – it IS all about RACE.
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see yas… i’m off to chicago…
but i’ll be watching…
July 24th, 2009 at 11:51 amLimbaugh: Obama has a ‘chip on his shoulder’ because he’s ‘black.’
– - Well, this was predictable which makes Mr. Obama’s comments so incredibly stupid. How such a brilliant guy who measures what he says so carefully, and didn’t have the facts yet, could swallow the baited question about Gates’ arrest, is a real head-scratcher to me.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:52 amMt. Rushblow is spewing ash, crap & verbal pollution…
environmental alert!
His slurred speech on his radio show exemplifies a fact…
Rushblow is back on the Hillbilly Heroin.
Does he have a new Hispanic housekeeper scoring for him?
July 24th, 2009 at 11:52 amCuriously, I am a white male who voted for Obama in the primary and election because there were elements in this country I did not like and I hoped Obama would change them. Furthermore, I believe the USA is only as exceptional as the conduct of its government and people make it and do not believe that the USA acted in an acceptable let alone exceptional manner during most of this decade. O.K. Limprod, dittoheads and other assorted bottom feeders, what is your “nonracial” excuse for that?
July 24th, 2009 at 11:53 amLIMBAUGH: I think Obama is largely misunderstood by a lot of people. … We’re finding out that this guy’s got a chip on his shoulder.
Or perhaps it’s the noose on his ancestors’ necks…
July 24th, 2009 at 11:54 amLet’s face it Limbaugh is a racist and he has ignorance on his shoulder, he does like America and is trying to remake it into the racist, bigoted country that he would like it to be.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:55 amWTF IS “American exceptionalism”?
It seems to be defined as “A vague and meaningless phrase used by far blow hards who claim opponents have not embraced it.”
It is the flag pin of 2009.
I though being patriotic meant “doing the best for your country” as opposed to “mouthing meaningless right wing catch phrases.”
July 24th, 2009 at 11:55 amHey Rush- go back down to South America with your little boy friends!!
July 24th, 2009 at 11:56 amAs soon as I heard Obama say what he did, I slapped my forehead and said “oh no”. I knew Obama had served Limbaugh and his ilk one up on a silver platter.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:56 amThat was a Joe Biden moment for Barack I hate to say.
limpballs should know seething anger — as a fat, limp-dicked, repulsive specimen of ‘murican manhood….who can’t buy a willing partner despite his hundreds of millions.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:57 amwow, terrific, Obama believes in American exceptionalismm. How about we start another war to prove America is so damn exceptional? C’mon guys, you can do better than this. “Exceptionalism” is code for an excuse for behavior that would be criticized if any other country did it.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:00 pmLimpdick and his followers are so pissed off that theres a black man in the whitehouse. They are racists. Well they are going to have seven and a half more years to be angry. Limpdicks head will hopefully explode by then.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pmBullshit. If a black president cannot address blatant racism in our society without being criticized for it then the racists win. I expect no less from him.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pmDoes Mikey Steele have a chip on his shoulder for the same reason, Rush? No, the chip on Steele’s shoulder passes for his head.
PEACE
July 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pmIt’s odd isn’t it…Rush Limbaugh has so much money, but he is so self hateful to the point he has to radiate it outward on everything and everyone…and his money cannot save him from his self hatred….hahahahahahahahaha on Rush…what a miserable life…
and there’s Obama, cool as a cucumber…it just kills the bigots…
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pmRush has a chip on his shoulder because he is an ignorant racist. He certainly doesn’t allow it to interfere with his blather
July 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pmI am curious why it was ok for Republicans for a week straight to talk about racism when it concerned a Latina woman, but it is not ok for a black president to talk about racism when it concerned white cops?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pmFred says:
If a black president cannot address blatant racism in our society without being criticized for it then the racists win. I expect no less from him.
– - Presidents make big mistakes when they personally “respond” to people with much lower status than themselves. The net effect is to lower the status of the Presidency and this will prove especially important when Obama is trying to pass a controversial health care plan. Today he looks less “post-racial” than he did a week ago and although it was only one slip it won’t be easy to reverse that.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pmThe resultant anger surrounding this issue makes it hard to deny that racism is a huge problem in America. I think he did think about it and is opening the discussion surrounding it.
If we can’t discuss the possibility of racism in this incident then how do we seriously address the racial profiling, etc. that exists now in our society?
Just the fact that the right went bonkers says they don’t want this discussion to be rational or logical. They want to blow it out of proportion to keep it from being an issue because they know it is one.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pm- – The Smoking Gun has the Gates police report:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
July 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pmLimbaugh: “I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked.”
Like the racist right wing Limbaugh elements? Yeah Rush I think you’re right
July 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pmFlush Limpdick says “Obama has a chip on his shoulder because he’s black”
shorter Limpdick: “He’s uppity”
July 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pmand of course, being the stellar journalist she is, van sustern didn’t disagree or call hmi to task on that statement.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pmLet’s face it, President Obama’s black, and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder. I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked. And he’s using the power of the presidency to remake the country.
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So?
Why shouldn’t he?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pmon a serious note- I have NEVER seen an President before in my lifetime go through so MUCH cross examination . If the President says “UP”,then his critics say “down” and so on. He truly is the “Jackie Robinson” of the American Presidency. He has to endure so much and STILL take care of his office. May GOD continue to BLESS him and his wonderful family. Isn’t it ironic that by 2050 our country will mostly be Brown,Black, Yellow and Muti-raced.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pmWhoa, whoa.
Boil it down to the first line.
“I think Obama is largely misunderstood by a lot of people.”
Well, wouldn’t Rush fit into that statement rather well?
Rush’s got a chip on his own shoulder for falling into the minority of being a fat rich white guy.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pmIt must kill all the racists that President Obama’s election has “helped restore the United States’ image abroad to levels unseen since the Clinton years.” according to the thinkfast thread further down and according to the new Pew Poll.
Jokes on all the bigots and racists and of course Republicans…hahahahahahahaha…enjoy your humble pie…bon appetit!!!
:|
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pmRush comes out and proves that there is still a race problem in America.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pmA man that was in his own house and demanding to know the name and badge number of a police officer who is in his house has every right to become belligerent and angry when the officer refuses to give that information to the legal resident of the home.
The ONLY responsible thing the police department could have done once the residency of Dr. Gates was established, was to emphasize that they were trying to protect the resident of the home, thank the person for their cooperation (regardless of whether or not cooperation was extended), and leave.
Arresting Dr. Gates for demanding the names of the people who was in his home is NOT acceptable!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pmThanks to the “Vote Down” function, Proud’s poll numbers can drop under zero.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm. “Health care’s got to be priced the same way a hotel room is, or a car is. You want to stay at the Ritz? You pay for it,”
This premise, while sounding nice and logical, is utter crap. Staying in a hotel is a choice, a luxury. It’s what you do when you’re on vacation.
You don’t choose to get sick, you don’t choose to get cancer. Everyone deserves decent health care, even the maids who clean rush’s room at the ritz…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pmProud to be ignorant; You are SO going down
July 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pmI love that because this officer gave mouth to mouth to Reggie Lewis, it is evident he isnt racist. Now I don’t know if the officer is racist or not, but Rush uses a typical rationalization, its the “I cant be racist because I have a black friend” argument.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pmhey stupid@29,
one man’s “insults” is another man’s truth.
prove to me tub-o-lard limpballs isn’t an impotent drug addled gasbag who can’t get laid so he drags his bottle of viagra to the dominican republican to bang child prostitutes.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:11 pmLefty Liberal says:
The ONLY responsible thing the police department could have done once the residency of Dr. Gates was established, was to emphasize that they were trying to protect the resident of the home, thank the person for their cooperation (regardless of whether or not cooperation was extended), and leave.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
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Exactly. The mere fact that Gates answered the door should’ve been a tip-off that perhaps there was not a burglary in progress.
Or is it the usual MO of professional burglars to answer the door when the cops show up and pretend that they’re the homeowners?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pmIf a black president and director of the “exectutive” branch of government cannot address racism in a police matter then something is wrong.
I contend that Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time.
I think the great right wing sound machine will grind to a halt on this one as someone pointed out earlier, why did Sotomayor face so many questions about race and this is not acceptable?
Just because we elected a black president doesn’t mean racism is resolved here. It is not.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pmGod I wish that bloated whale would choke on a pork rind and suffer brain damage…but wait, how could we tell?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pmI’m sorry, but is it supposed to be some sort of breaking news that Lush Rimjob is a fcuking racist?
This guy isn’t worth the crud that gets stuck in his fat ass, let alone the screen space on this website. It would be best for all involved if he simply disappeared (preferably from the mortal coil….but I’ll take total isolation on a desert island as a viable alternative). He’s a disgrace to the human race (of which he has questionable membership), America, and common decency everywhere.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pmHow is that any different than Limbaugh?
… except for the identities of those elements, of course.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pmSkeeter1;
you ready for some ‘water sports’? Extreme ‘gymnastics’?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pmStill think that you wouldn’t break under torture?
Rush makes $50m a year to say these things.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm- – http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
Well, I read the report and if it’s accurate, Mr. Gates comes off as a snobby, elitist-sounding ass who played the “do you know who I am?” card. He could have easily avoided and diffused the entire episode but it seems he wanted to push an agenda.
It’s always been my experience that it takes TWO people to make an argument.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmProud, we recognize rush’s statement as telling. It tells us that rush is a self-centered idiot who is too racist to understand why Professor Gates might be unhappy at being accused of breaking into his own home and be arrested for asking the cop for identification.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmWho cares what this fat, ignorant, uneducated, draft dodging, prescription drug addicted piece of shit thinks.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmSo let’s compare..”Limberger has a chip on his shoulder because he’s fat and smells bad”…is that the same as the swill coming out of rush’s pie hole….??
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmIt doesn’t matter if Crowley is racist or not. HE IS UNPROFESSIONAL
He arrested Gates because Gates did not “respect his authoritie”
The cop is a bully, his racism is not a factor. He arrested Gates for “contempt of cop”
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmMagny8 says:
“Rush makes $50m a year to say these things.”
and apparently, he makes more than he earns. tub-o-lard is bleeding clear channel broadcasting dry. the stupid turd is not only biting the hand that feeds him, he’s killing it.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pmUncle Ho says:
Proud to be ignorant; You are SO going down\
Why do you say that? Is Larry Craig visiting?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pmLet’s face it, President Obama’s black, and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder.
Better to have a chip on one’s shoulder, than a cyst on one’s ass, right? Limbaugh?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pmProud says:
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How much do you want to bet that the tapes are “misplaced” and will never be heard?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
If that occurs , it will be because the officer’s story doesn’t add up/is complete bullshit ; not because of any wrongdoing on Gates’ part , Pud …………
July 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pmProud says:
How much do you want to bet that the tapes are “misplaced” and will never be heard?
If they release the tapes, will you use “Proud to be wrong” as your nickname for a whole week?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pmRantingTommy says:
The cop is a bully, his racism is not a factor. He arrested Gates for “contempt of cop”
And I think this is the ultimate comment.
I also find it telling that so far the officer has refused to issue an apology to Dr. Gates. Even if he feels that he did nothing wrong, in the interest of public relations, he should come out and apologize.
He, and the Cambridge Police Department, could even take the opportunity to engage Dr. Gates in a series of training lectures on race and how power can be misused. The PR nightmare that they are currently facing could be turned into a bonus for them.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pmI agree with your sentiment, but since when does being a ’snobby elitist-sounding ass” warrant an arrest?
The officer could just as easily have defused the situation by apologizing for the inconvenience and walking away. In fact, one could argue that this was his responsibility as a peace officer. But he didn’t do that. For some reason “becoming disorderly” on one’s own property after having been accused of burglarizing one’s own home is grounds for arrest.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm@Badmoodman
When you can cite the laws that make it illegal to be a jerk on your own property, then you have a point. Until then, sorry.
Also, Proud – you’re a nasty racist, disgust me. I will celebrate the demise of people like you.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pmBAH…
“nasty racist, disgust me”
July 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pms/b
“nasty racist, and you disgust me”
Unreal. Remember this crowd when Georgie Boy was Pres? If you so much as disagreed with him or his policies, you were not only un-American, but a terroist sympathizer. If you spoke out against Bush or Cheney, these SOBs would send the FBI to your door. In 2003, that poor woman who lost her son in Iraq went to that Repug fund raiser the Repugs screamed in her face and had her ejected. Now, not only are these Repugs calling Obama an illegal alien they are acting treasonist. The fact is, Obama won fair and square (Unlike Georgie boy) And now that has got their panties in a bunch.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pmToo bad I can only give one vote to that…that was a great one liner…
:|
July 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pmBadmoodman says:
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- – http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
Well, I read the report and if it’s accurate, Mr. Gates comes off as a snobby, elitist-sounding ass who played the “do you know who I am?” card. He could have easily avoided and diffused the entire episode but it seems he wanted to push an agenda.
It’s always been my experience that it takes TWO people to make an argument.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
There’s a bit of a difference between being argumentative and being arrested.
If being argumentative were grounds for arrest , baseball managers would need bail on a daily basis…………
July 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pmsmidget says:
When you can cite the laws that make it illegal to be a jerk on your own property, then you have a point. Until then, sorry.
– - I believe the salient point of my post is it takes TWO to argue. And no matter what race you are, it never makes sense to get belligerent with a policeman. Someone as wise as Mr. Gates should have known that.
Conversely, the police officer could have walked away from Gates once he became verbally abusive. Like I said, TWO.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pmTo our pet troll (ProudToBeARacist)
Why would it matter if Dr. Gates comes off looking bad, the police look even worse. In the police report, Sgt. Crowley states that he asks Dr. Gates to step outside. He then uses the “Public Disturbance” law to arrest Dr. Gates. That alone sounds like a setup. If it is not racist, then it is an abuse of power.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pmLet’s face it, President Obama’s black, and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder. I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked. And he’s using the power of the presidency to remake the country
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I have a chip on my shoulder Linbaugh. I don’t like the very element you demonstrate. This interview is a perfect example of that ugly, vile and disgusting element I can’t stand.
P.S. I am old and white. I couldn’t hold a candle next to this President, and neither can you!!!!!!!!!!!
This President is the very example of American exceptionalism.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmSkeeter1 says
July 24th, 2009 at 11:55 am
WTF IS “American exceptionalism”?
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I believe it’s one of the latest wingnut buzzwords that basically means “It’s far more important to CLAIM your country is exceptional than to do what you can to MAKE it exceptional.”
July 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmthe BIG difference is the power to arrest
Gates has EVERY RIGHT to be a jerk on his own property – that is NOT a crime
The cop ABUSED his authority because he’s a BULLY. He’s an insecure, authoritarian jerk WITH THE POWER TO ARREST, which he abused.
Being disrespectful to a cop is NOT A CRIME and NO ARREST is warranted for it. PERIOD.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmIsn’t Rush enough of a hypocrite without accusing Obama of having a chip on his shoulder?
And of course racism isn’t an issue for Rush.
It’s his profession.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm- – I have a hard time understanding some views here. I’m white and I’ve had a couple experiences with cops (black and white) where I started to get verbally abusive, was warned, and backed off because i knew where I was headed. And I knew THEY were wrong.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pmBadmoodman says:
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smidget says:
When you can cite the laws that make it illegal to be a jerk on your own property, then you have a point. Until then, sorry.
- – I believe the salient point of my post is it takes TWO to argue. And no matter what race you are, it never makes sense to get belligerent with a policeman. Someone as wise as Mr. Gates should have known that.
Conversely, the police officer could have walked away from Gates once he became verbally abusive. Like I said, TWO.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Yeah , but the police officer is paid to diffuse that type of situation , not escalate it by arresting someone who was miss-identified on his own property ; imagine if Gates were a much younger , healthier black man ……………
July 24th, 2009 at 12:30 pmYeah, in reading the report, it appears that Gates was being a dick.
Then I got to thinking about how I might respond if I was exhausted from an overseas flight, frustrated because I had trouble getting into my house, and then the cops show up assuming I’m trying to rob my own house — and then arrest me because I have the nerve to get pissed off, because even though worked my ass of and became a well-to-do highly educated professor at Harvard, my neighbors still see me and my driver as a black thugs breaking into houses.
I’d be livid!
But then I remembered…I’m white.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pmApparently, Professor Gates is Guilty While Living Black
July 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pmBadmoodman says:
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- – I have a hard time understanding some views here. I’m white and I’ve had a couple experiences with cops (black and white) where I started to get verbally abusive, was warned, and backed off because i knew where I was headed. And I knew THEY were wrong.
Discretion is the better part of valor.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Please list all the examples of the decades you and your ilk have been suppressed and targeted racially , and then maybe I’ll be able to see the equivalence………..
July 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmThis society has to learn to deal with sociopaths like Limbaugh and those who listen to him. I think the proper response for now is to just vote them away with numbers. They’re very determined to show just how “normal” they are by having the rest of society run by them. I think Ensign, Vitter and the rest of them are sociopaths.
There was a time when being in politics for sociopaths wasn’t so lucrative so it was ignored by them but we see now, that’s not the case.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm- – Isn’t it notable that six months into his presidency, the most prominent advocacy President Obama has done on behalf of minorities mistreated by police is to stand up for his Ivy League buddy? Somehow I imagine that Professor Gates would’ve fared just fine absent help from Harvard’s most prominent alumnus.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm***
once again in the market place of
free ideas proud gets voted down.
:)
got to work of getting better ideas proud.
:) :)
i’m sorry i forgot.
you’re a republican.
you don’t have any ideas of your own.
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pmOMG! MSM is still going on about the Gates ‘controversy’. I’m watching SpongeBob SquarePants reruns because that seems to be all they want to talk about. Nothing about Bohner’s Beach Party, Sanford or Ensign. HealthCare seems to have slipped through the cracks. Oh, and Rick Perry’s statements? No where to be found. MSM strikes again.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@Badmoodman
Your point is only valid if it is illegal to have an argument with a police officer. Whether it makes sense or not is completely irrelevant, because it’s not a crime, and therefore not an arrestable offense.
No matter how beligerently Gates may have acted, he did nothing to warrant arrest. As a police officer, Crowley is held to a higher standard of behavior than common citizens. His responsibility was to apologize, and leave the scene. By arresting Gates for a non-crime, he has escalated the situation to one of national interest (because Gates is a friend of the President, of course).
It may take two to argue, but it only takes one to walk away. The cop, with higher authority and training designed to handle this exact type of situation (beligerent citizen), Crowley is solely at fault.
Note I have said nothing about his race. I don’t know if race played a factor. I doubt it, to be honest. What I have read about this officer does not lead me to think that he’s a racist. He just stepped over the bounds of his authority. What makes him the bad guy is not that he made a mistake and let his power get to him but that he refuses to admit that he made a mistake and apologize for it.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pmUm… this “most prominent advocacy” as far as I can tell, has been to respond to a question from a reporter, and then watch as the right-wing media spun itself into a frenzy over it.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked. And he’s using the power of the presidency to remake the country.
I dunno about “thePrez,” but speaking only for me, there is a HUGE segment of this country’s citizens whom I completely, utterly, totally despise, led by (YOU GUESSED IT) Rubba the Butt…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pmBadmoodman says:
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- – Isn’t it notable that six months into his presidency, the most prominent advocacy President Obama has done on behalf of minorities mistreated by police is to stand up for his Ivy League buddy? Somehow I imagine that Professor Gates would’ve fared just fine absent help from Harvard’s most prominent alumnus.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I hope you’ve noticed that perhaps Obama may be a little busy with tiny problems like 2 wars , record deficits , healthcare and other mild irrelevancies ………
July 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pmPolitical office is the perfect place for them now and has been for some time. Just like stalling healthcare because they can’t understand to care.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The police acted stupidly when they arrested a man when NO CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED.
It is NOT A CRIME TO BE A JERK TO A COP IN YOUR OWN HOME.
The cop was UNPROFESSIONAL and should be released from the force.
Instead, this debate just strengthens the EARNED perception that cops think they are above the law and other cops will circle the wagons to protect them.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pmB-cup sez: Everyone is capable of making mistakes. Cops and university professors alike.
That may be true, but cops are always already pigs and morons. You can call ‘em pigs, and they laugh, but acall ‘em morons and they take offense: they don’t want the truth known…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pmvigor says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Ronald Reagan was a “community organizer and student of liberation theology” , dipshit ?
How come he blamed anything and everything on Jimmy Carter for 8 years then , jackass ?
The same can also be said of Bush and your beloved horseshit GOP , for blaming all of Chimpy’s screw-ups (of which there are a mountain of them) , on Bill Clinton .
Pipe down , tool………..
July 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pmAnd Rush is white and old and fat and stupid and racist, just like his listeners. There, are we done now?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm***
zoo,
different for you.
different for me.
different for gates.
***
and when he gets busted
for oxycontin and dick pills,
different for limbaugh.
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pmI think the President was absolutely correct. Reading the police report I agree that the Cambridge police acted stupidly, arresting a homeowner for simply arguing with the police on his own property.
I suspect he knew more about the case than you or I know and to assume otherwise as an element of your judgment is fairly silly.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pmSkip Gates’ crime was to act like a white man and demand the pig’s name and badge number.
His fate was sealed in that moment.
The pig knew he’d overstepped, and the only way to get out of it was to provoke Gates into leaving his house.
he did.
Pigs hate uppity Kneegrows…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pmsmidget says:
Your point is only valid if it is illegal to have an argument with a police officer.
– - Ok, my last word on this distraction…Crowley does not claim to have felt as though he was in danger, and says he believes that Gates was being truthful about it being his residence. So I don’t really understand why Crowley stuck around to be yelled at, and it makes me uncomfortable that someone can simply be arrested for the crime of saying nasty things to a police officer under the auspices of “disorderly conduct.”
I’m not aware of the clause in the First Amendment that exempts police officers from angry criticism. Gates’ reaction, if the police report is accurate, may have been inappropriate, but it was understandable, given that he was being accused of breaking into his own home. But if he was arrested simply because Crowley was angry or embarrassed at being mistreated, I don’t think that’s a defensible reaction.
I think Crowley and Gates were BOTH wrong.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm***
“I hoping”
*
me hoping too.
:)
July 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pmIt’s great when Republicans let their racism hang out for everyone to see.
Let’s see how our angry little white victims, crybabies all, fare in the next election now that they’ve completely gutted the Hispanic vote.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pmWhat does he really know about the case?
As the professor in question is his friend, I would imagine the President has taken at least a passing interest in the case, backup.
I think you should withdraw your hasty assesment of the presidents ‘gun jumping… after all, what do you really know about the case?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm“And he’s using the power of the presidency to remake the country.”
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Wow — how DARE he? Just because he’s President of the United States, he wants to make the country a better place! Outrageous!
Limbaugh wants Barack Obama to be more like Michael Steele, as in — “Be a good token and a credit to your race, hush up and be obedient window-dressing, let the white folks worry about all the actual decision-making, and know your place — don’t get uppity.”
However, I (and millions of other Americans) voted for a President, not a race token. And one of the reasons I voted for him is that I trust him to use the power of the presidency to remake the country, rebuilding from the rubble and ashes left from the last administration.
Limbaugh is a cyst on the country’s backside.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pmProud says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
You mean the way Fat Bastard Limpballs provokes his cretinous and brainless listeners (like yourself) , by always railing against minorities and females and drug addicts (like himself?) , Pud ?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pmI agree. But in the given situation, only Crowley had any official power, and he exercised it foolishly.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm***
keep on trying proud.
it’s like doctor shopping, isn’t it?
:)
July 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pmBush 2000 and 04 was illegitimate. McCain was born in Panama was a legitmate for president.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pmRush Limbaugh has a turd on his shoulder because he is a shithead.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pmWhite people don’t have any elements of this country they don’t like and want to change when they have power?
Could have fooled me.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pmI think Crowley and Gates were BOTH wrong.
– - LOL, I got a negative vote for this! I’ve been posting here for years and love this site but some of you people need to check your logic and leanings. I’m for truth, and like Colbert, I don’t see color.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pmralph the wonder locust says:
For some reason “becoming disorderly” on one’s own property after having been accused of burglarizing one’s own home is grounds for arrest.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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And we should never forget that, a mere 50 or 60 years ago, it would’ve been grounds for lynching in certain parts of the country.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:46 pmCops learn what their communities will tolerate in the way of abusing despised minorities along with the locations of the donut shops with freebies.
if they are intolerant dicks, it’s because their communities want them to behave that way.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:46 pmBadmoodman: I think Crowley and Gates were BOTH wrong.
they weren’t “both” wrong.
The fukkking pig was wrong.
period…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Badmoodman says:
I’m for truth, and like Colbert, I don’t see color.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
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You do realize that that’s satire, right? I mean, the whole “I don’t see color” bit is poking fun at the utter ridiculousness of someone claiming to be color-blind in a society that so obviously isn’t.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pmAt least the police report doesn’t say that Gates grabbed his box. That would introduce another whole entirely confusing element to it.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pmConsider that it may well have been Prod being dickish.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pmralph@108
Precisely.
Badmoonman@112
Who knows why on Earth you would get voted down for that. It wa a completely reasonable statement, I just find, based on my own interpretation of the events as they have been presented to me, that the at-fault party is the one with the authority (in this case, the police officer, for the reasons I have already discussed). I do agree, however, that Gates behaved inappropriately, though, I believe, understandably.
If it makes you feel better, at the time of this posting, you’re back at zero, and I voted the comment up, so it should be +1 at least. :) I always appreciate rational conversation, even when I don’t agree with the other person on all points.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pmgood point. maybe we should both step back and reserve judgement until more of the facts are known.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:52 pmchiroptera toasterhead says:
Badmoodman says:
I’m for truth, and like Colbert, I don’t see color.
– You do realize that that’s satire, right?
– - Eyefreakinroll. “S. that D.,” – Liz Lemon.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:52 pmNah, there was a wingnut neocon on the TV the other day who said that had McCain been elected, the same questions of “birth” would have be raised by the left.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmThis is what happens when you see the world through sh*t-colored glasses, an affliction facing Rush since he spends so much time with his head up his ass.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmb-cup, you’re coming dangerously close to excusing the officer’s behavior because of the latent threat that gates might have tried to pop a cap in his ass.
That’s just stupidly trying to generalize a very specific situation.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmbackup says:
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Why not give police the respect that we demand of them?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
They work for US under the banner of “To Serve And Protect” ; not to incite and arrest.
Plus , they do believe themselves to be above the law , and refuse to turn in their “brothers” , even when their own commit crimes.
Holy Shit , they sound just like Republicans ……….
July 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmYeah. Like that’s ever gonna happen.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm@backup
Why not give police the respect that we demand of them?
And we should, in most cases (there are cases where the cop is simply being a d0uche, and frankly, you get treated as you treat others). That doesn’t mean bowing to their authority and being denied the ability to question that authority, even if its in a rude and/or beligerent manner. Again, being an ass is NOT a crime. Now, there are situations where this kind of behavior IS grounds for arrest, but this clearly was not one of those situations.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmWhy is everyone voting down Badmoodman?
He’s been a wonderful source of truly fine sarcasm for years, but he has a different opinion on one thing and now he’s “vote down” material?
Come on…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pmRe #130
I guess I shouldn’t have said “everyone.”
I should have said “anyone.”
July 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pmZooey says:
Why is everyone voting down Badmoodman?
– - Z, dunno if you’re on my wing or at my back but thanks.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pmSniff.
Hate speech is the vehicle used to incite violence on people of ethnicity, sexual preference and religious beliefs. This isn’t the only time Limbaugh has shat hate speech out of his anus shaped mouth. This man is a menace. The menace must be stopped.
We need a constitutional amendment to ban hate speech because that’s what haters such as Limbaugh uses to incite violence on minorities in the first place.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmThis is what happens when you see the world through sh*t-colored glasses, an affliction facing Rush since he spends so much time with his head up his ass.
Gosh, tell me how to goof around making 50 million a year “with my head up my ass.”
July 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pmBadmoonman@112
Who knows why on Earth you would get voted down for that. It wa a completely reasonable statement, I just find, based on my own interpretation of the events as they have been presented to me, that the at-fault party is the one with the authority (in this case, the police officer, for the reasons I have already discussed). I do agree, however, that Gates behaved inappropriately, though, I believe, understandably.
If it makes you feel better, at the time of this posting, you’re back at zero, and I voted the comment up, so it should be +1 at least. :) I always appreciate rational conversation, even when I don’t agree with the other person on all points.
Comment by smidget
This is worth repeating.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pmThank you.
The cop was way wrong.
But the pigs NEVER admit it when they’ve been guilty of quotidian harassment of despised minorities.
this pig just rousted the wrong “niqqer” is all…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pmIntrepid says:
We need a constitutional amendment to ban hate speech because that’s what haters such as Limbaugh uses to incite violence on minorities in the first place.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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And who would get to define what “hate speech” is?
Would young-earthers get to define On The Origin of Species as “hate speech?” Would anti-gay Christianists get to define Will & Grace reruns as “hate speech?”
No, I can’t get on that train. Repealing the First Amendment is not a good solution to anything.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pmBadmoodman says:
- – Z, dunno if you’re on my wing or at my back but thanks.
Sniff.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I am the wind beneath your wings, Badmoodman. ;)
*puke*
July 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmsmidget. You make a good point. We should respect cops, they should respect us. Cops are public servants and they work for us. There is a high potential for abuse simply by the nature of the position. And there has been significant abuse of that position by police throughout history.
But, just as the we should not judge Gates due to his skin, we shouldn’t judge Crowley due to his.
Maybe Crowley and the Cambridge police acted inappropriately. But, maybe Gates took some action that justified the arrest.
I don’t think we know yet and agree with the idea that judgement should be reserved until more is known.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pmHe’s been a wonderful source of truly fine sarcasm for years, but he has a different opinion on one thing and now he’s “vote down” material?
Come on…
I voted him ‘thumbs up’ even though he took it “personally” or something with the other voting…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pmBadmoodman says:
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Zooey says:
Why is everyone voting down Badmoodman?
- – Z, dunno if you’re on my wing or at my back but thanks.
Sniff.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I actually voted him up several times , because though I disagree with his basic argument/premise , it isn’t as if he’s talking out his ass and/or coming in from somewhere out in right field………..
July 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pmProud has a chip on his shoulder because his wang has a wart on it.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmMaybe Crowley and the Cambridge police acted inappropriately. But, maybe Gates took some action that justified the arrest.
Calling out a cop–demanding his name and badge number–for harassing you in your own house is not ‘inappropriate’ behavior unless you are a black in a “white person” house in a “white person” town…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmbackup says:
I think it’s a difficult responsibility and I appreciate what they do.
Why not give police the respect that we demand of them?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
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It’s a tough, dangerous job, sure. But so are a lot of professions. Middle school teachers also see many social ills played out in the lives of their students, which undoubtedly takes a toll on them. And they, too, can get shot and killed in the line of duty.
Yes, we should respect the job that police have to do. But that shouldn’t prevent us from being critical when they do that job poorly.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pmProud says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Yeah , that’s it , Pud
Compare a college professor to rival gangs ; you are such an ignorant pansy ……….
July 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmYou are correct, I mean face it the Crips and Bloods are just community organzers attempting to improve their neighborhoods and the cops just won’t leave them alone. As any liberal would say “I hate he police, until I need them”
To you, all blacks are gangsters. Who the fcuk are you fooling, racist idiot.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmLet’s face it, President Obama’s black, and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder.
I wonder if b-cup will find this statement of Limbaugh’s to be within the confines of non-racist commentary, just as b-cup has found Limbaugh’s other statements about Donovan MacNabb, “Barack the Magic Negro” and “bone-in-the-nose”.
Perhaps b-cup can start to detect a pattern here…?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmIntrepid says:
Proud has a chip on his shoulder because his wang has a wart on it.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Proud has shit on his shoulder: his head…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmProud to be ignornant
Some cops take it upon themselves to be bullies. They think that a badge and a gun gives them the right to push people around. They are on a power trip.
I know, I’ve seen it happen.
Crowley was WRONG, PERIOD!
July 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmArresting Gate for ‘contempt of cop’ was BS. Crowley should have diffused the situation by saying nothing and leaving quietly, but chose to be an asswhole instead.
That man isn’t a cop. He’s a pig. No cop would ever do what that pig did.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmOh come on, MCM! They’re both black! Can’t you see the common denominator here? Prod sure can see it. Right, Prod?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pmThanks, Mr Cobb & MCMetal.
Badmoodman must be getting more vote downs than I thought, because I’ve been voting him up as well.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmralph the wonder locust says:
Perhaps b-cup can start to detect a pattern here…?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
You gotta be kidding…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pmHey proud, if Gates did something wrong warranting his arrest, why did the charges get dropped?
Lets see, Proud Racist will say, “LIBERAL JUDGE”. A known straw man reply but then again, Reich wingers are great at building scarecrows. No surprise.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmUncle Ho sez: Apparently, Professor Gates is Guilty While Living Black
Correction, Unk: Guilty While Living Black In A Rich White Neighborhood. (The white neighbor who called 911 seemed not to know who he was–or didn’t bother to check; just saw two black men trying to break into a house in a toney neighborhood.)
July 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmI’ve given badmoodman several “Up” votes in this thread as well.
I’m not cool with voting someone down just because you disagree with them. I think a vote down should be reserved for someone who makes little to no sense or argues disingenuously.
Like Prod.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmTo proud, judges MUST find blacks guilty out of proxy. To him it’s a felony to be black.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmI guess Proud is proud of his racism, much as Rush is proud of his…The difference is one is a witting pawn while the other makes $50 million a year producing populist pawns for corporate America…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmas the comments here show, race is a difficult issue. and that’s not even an example of american exceptionalism — it’s hard for us to deal with but it’s not like most, if not all, other countries are doing a much better job of it.
all of us big brained (sic) apes seem to fall into that trap.
but, since we’ve elected a black — by our somewhat peculiar definition — man president, we need to deal with some things we’ve been sweeoping under the carpet for a few centuries.
it’s going to get worse before we see even slight improvement, but, as most of the comments on this thread show, galoots like limbaugh don’t speak for a majority of any group in this country.
http://blahgblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/behind-the-mask/
July 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmI can only hope that one day you NEED the police to save the life of you or one of your loved ones and they just drive by and give you a little wave. Because you wouldn’t want them to stop and help because they might offend you.
We need the POLICE to arrest little racist pukes like you because you’re the kind who will most likely commit a hate crime on minorities.
STFU
July 24th, 2009 at 1:20 pmbut we must not forget who the true victims are…the racists who are called out on their racism *snark
July 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm“I hate he police, until I need them”
Same response to you as 163.
btw. I don’t hate cops. I respect them and my cousin so happens to be a cop. Maybe I should have him watch you and trace your ip number.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Two words for why he waa released…. Black Mayor
Two words for why he was ACTUALLY released… no crime.
Four more… not guilty of anything.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pmExactly Zooey. Professor Gates has to prove he’s not a black thug, even in his own home. On the open thread this morning I posted a similar experience I’d had years ago where i left my front door open and a neighbor called the cops in the middle of the night. I had a very different encounter, but I’m white.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmProud says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Pud , I’m surprised you didn’t try to add in that it’s because she’s the first openly gay African-American , you racist piece of shit……….
July 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm***
“waa”?
don’t cry proud.
:(
it’s unbecoming.
:)
July 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmNot liberal judge, he never went before a judge moron. Two words for why he waa released…. Black Mayor
Your racism knows no bounds doesn’t it? Even if that mayor was white. He would’ve seen through it and dropped the charges just the same but to you he would be a white liberal niqqer loving mayor.
Nice straw man racist dickwart.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmwatchdog says:
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We will never hear those tapes.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Yeah , because they will exonerate Gates , you flea bitten moron…….
July 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pmbackup says:
Why not give police the respect that we demand of them?
I only give respect to people that earn it. Just because someone has a badge doesn’t mean that they deserve respect.
Police earn respect by serving the public, being polite in the face of hostility, remaining calm in the face of chaos, among other things.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmAnd gates was arrested because he ASKED for the pigs name. Something Gates has the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to know. The pig violated his civil rights as an AMERICAN CITIZEN.
So proud, are you proud to be against civil rights and proud to be an anti-american racist pig?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmSounds like this may have been a factor in Gates’ reaction:
Black students and professors at Harvard have complained for years about racial profiling by Cambridge and campus police. Harvard commissioned an independent committee last year to examine the university’s race relations after campus police confronted a young black man who was using tools to remove a bike lock. The man worked at Harvard and owned the bike.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmProud says: Two words for why he waa released…. Black Mayor
Any proof, beyond your racist unconscious?
A more likely scenario is “Oh shit, this is a famous black guy who we can’t just push around.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:36 pm‘Officer Krupky probably didn’t know who Professor Gates really was. He saw the Harvard ID and figured he was dealing with a janitor…
Until the matter is reviewed, I think it’s premature to characterize it as ’stupidly’ on the part of the Cambridge police department.
They arrested him. Then released him. Why?
From CNN’s story:
“loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space?”
This is a case of a cop who needed to say, ‘Sorry’ and walk away. He didn’t. He acted stupidly. Or should I say, In my opinion this arrest was stupid and pointless. The DA agrees.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmBobwurst says:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Excellent story, Bobwurst. Imagine how that would have gone if you were black. Wow.
I live in Idaho, and people crack jokes that we only have white joggers around here because unless a black guy is running on a track, he’ll have a cop behind him.
I never see black joggers around here.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmWe will never hear those tapes. And Obama will try and create some kind of program because of this bloated story.
Because the tapes will prove that that pig was in the wrong and Gates will walk you pile of hillbilly racist trailer park trash.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmAnd I hope Proud will someday be in need of a cop and a black one will show up and give him a hearty FU! That would be justice.
Or Proud will be in a car accident and need a blood transfusion and get some black blood and get beaten up by white cops the next time he gets pulled over…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pmNo I will support a police officer every time over a race baiting thug who is only interested in gathering material for his next racist book. I just hope more than anything that Gates is need dire need of the police to save his life sometime and the police respond with a hearty FU. That would be justice.
Nah. You only support pigs who arrest, brutalize and kill anyone who is black simply because they are black and you know it. Again, who the fcuk you’re fooling. Racist putz. To you that’s “justice”.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmAnd I hope Proud will someday be in need of a cop and a black one will show up and give him a hearty FU! That would be justice.
Or Proud will be in a car accident and need a blood transfusion and get some black blood and get beaten up by white cops the next time he gets pulled over…
HAHAHAHA!!! Love to see that happen. He’d shiite bricks.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pmChip on shoulder??
Cystboy doesn’t approve of gov’t intrusion either . .
Hmmmm, remember when Pillboy hired Roy Black to representing him in OXICONDINGATE and fought the gov’t. intrusion into his medical records for TWO YEARS because he was simultaneously complaining to FIVE DOCTORS about the SAME ‘back injury’ and getting different prescriptions from numerous pharmacies . .
I thought republicans were about ‘a man’s home is his castle’?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
Until the matter is reviewed, I think it’s premature to characterize it as ’stupidly’ on the part of the Cambridge police department.
They arrested him. Then released him. Why?
From CNN’s story:
Gates followed the officer outside and continued to accuse him of racial bias, the report said. After Crowley warned the professor twice that he was becoming disorderly, the officer wrote he arrested Gates for “loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space.”
“loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space?”
This is a case of a cop who needed to say, ‘Sorry’ and walk away. He didn’t. He acted stupidly. Or should I say, In my opinion this arrest was stupid and pointless. The DA agrees.
Actually, according to the arrest report, the officer asked Dr. Gates to step outside even though he knew that Dr. Gates was talking very loud. Once outside, he then arrested Dr. Gates for public disturbance.
I think that was a setup to get the opportunity to arrest Dr. Gates.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pmSo in other words, b-cup, no you don’t detect a pattern.
Color me surprised.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI would speculate that this episode would have taken a different turn if Professor Gates had a concealed weapon.
It is the Conservative’s view that this is the very episode is the motivation to arm oneself.
Were is the Conservative Right in this matter?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pmProfessor Gates suffered this humiliation in his very home.
Proud to be ignorant:
Quit while you’re ahead. Every time you post, you get your ass flamed. Go play on freepers or Redstate, you’ll fit in over there.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmProud says:
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No I will support a police officer every time over a race baiting thug
July 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
So , I guess that means you support the police over Fat Bastard Limpballs ; is that correct , Pud ?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmQ. is proud-to-be-ignorant the idiot formerly known as Mighty Moron?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmHey, I just found out what Proud Racist is suffering from and it’s more than just dickwarts.
LOOKIE HERE!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmProud says:
Ahh. I wonder if you have the same opinion of the events at Ruby Ridge?
Thought not, you ‘race baiting thug.’
BTW, if you feel the need for anymore fixing I can recommend an excellent veterinarian.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmAnyone see and hear the TMZ interview yesterday of Sgt. Crowley, first sentence?
Crowley: “I didn’t vote for him . . . ”
Anyone surprised?
I’m a NYC white woman and I’m old enough to know that this would never have happened to Professor Gates had he been trying to get into his home in Harlem.
We all know this, don’t we????
July 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmThanks Zooey. I never thought about how it would have been if I’d been black until today. That’s the problem with Whiteness. I assume the cops will treat me with respect because that’s been my cultural experience because cops assume I’m not a thug based on my skin color. Dr Gates has the exact opposite experience, one that is grounded in reality it seems….
July 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmI seem to more understanding of Gates’ response than some here because, although I know that the best course of action to avoid trouble is to be cooperative, I used to have a ‘black’ boyfriend and we got pulled over while driving multiple times for no reason at all. None.
The first time it happened I was incredulous. I asked my boyfriend, “Why’d they pull us over?” and he just looked at me as though how could I be so naive. We were detained for a half an hour while they checked him out.
When they finally gave him back his license and we left I couldn’t believe how calm my friend was. I was hopping mad. He said it happened all the time. There’s got to be a point where people just snap. And if I had been subjected all my life to that kind of thing and then there I was standing in my own house…well that’s a time when someone might just snap.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pmIntrepid says: LOOKIE HERE!
Well, it’s been said that you are what you eat. Proud is the living proof of what happens when you eat shit.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmMy brother was involved in an incident in which police waited on our property (which was a place of business) and when my brother and his friends pulled up in their car at 1 am, the cops accosted them and arrested the driver (not my brother) for DUI. My german shepherd was in the car and when the cops approached, she naturally barked and acted protective. The cops issued my brother a ticket for disturbing the peace, and when he went to court to fight it, the court upheld the charge because he had yelled the dog’s name to stop her.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pmTo you proud to be a racist, the DA is a coward because he righted an obvious wrong. That must really piss your cowardly racist anus off, doesn’t it. Braindead blunder child.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmLizCoro says:
Anyone see and hear the TMZ interview yesterday of Sgt. Crowley, first sentence?
Crowley: “I didn’t vote for him . . . “
July 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Inspector Non Sequitur…? :D
July 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmUncle Ho says:
Intrepid says: LOOKIE HERE!
Well, it’s been said that you are what you eat. Proud is the living proof of what happens when you eat shit.
Really? cuz I always thought proud was an a$$hole and a dick…
July 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmSome chips are justified.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmI knew as soon as Lynn Sweet asked the question this would turn into an issue. Not sure why she felt the need to do so.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmrepublicans hate facts says:
Just FLAG PROUD so her FASCIST HATE BAITING disappears. Filth like hers needs to be SHUT DOWN.
I an going to commence the flagging of every single one of her racist posts immediately. Do the same and pass it on.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmUncle Ho says:
Intrepid says: LOOKIE HERE!
Well, it’s been said that you are what you eat. Proud is the living proof of what happens when you eat shit.
So true. LOL!!
July 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmI was a little taken aback when he felt the need to start out his interview stating that he didn’t vote for Obama.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmWhat I take from the police report: first, it is a POLICE report based on the officers’ perspective only so, of course, it’s likely to put them in the best light, Gates’ actions in the worst, and justify their actions. Second, the officer clearly stated more than once that he thought Gates was the legal resident of the house but there is no indication that he expressed that to Gates, asked for his cooperation to insure that the home was indeed safe. The officer was going to leave, an indication that he recognized the legitimacy of Gates’ ownership of the house. The “peace” officer had an obligation at this point to respectfully end the situation and “secure the peace”. He could have done so very easily and done something positive for relationships between the cop and black communities. He could have said something like, “Professor Gates, we are happy that your house is secure, welcome home, and we are sorry for the inconvenience we know this has been for you. We hope you understand our need to respond to the call we received. Good night.”
July 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pmOkay, correct me if I’m wrong, but the antagonists here are actually condoning the arrest of a citizen, who did nothing wrong, on his own property?
Or…
Is it just the right wing talking point run amok?
Because, as important a story as this is, it should not be entailing the headlines and media attention that it is.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmUnless, of course, it’s to divert the public attention of health care reform. You know, the public which is IN FAVOR of reform!!!
Proud also thinks pigs will fly…maybe proud thinks that’s how crowley will get to DC, he’ll fly there…
As far as Dr Gate’s relationships with his neighbors, I’m sure they’re most likely fellow Harvard profs. who support Dr Gates and enjoy his company.
And the cops will be VERY respectful if they’re ever called to Dr. Gate’s house again. They will be watched very closely.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmLefty Liberal@174
I have to disagree a little here.
One does not have to earn my respect, they have to earn my disrespect. All people get respect from me simply because they are human beings until they give me a reason to take it away.
I personally feel that if everyone held this opinion, life would be a little better. I could be wrong, but there is plenty to say about defaulting to treating others with decency.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian says: @ 219.
Says it all.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pmDRxJ@220
Of course its a talking point run amok. Rush said it, so it must be true. Didn’t you know?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmProud says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Yeah , everyone can sure see how beneficial the police have been for Gates , you mindless turd ………
July 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmProud to be a racist little moronic pig, I just flagged every single one of your posts. Proud of yourself now little punk?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pmThink about it. Limbaugh has a huge chip on his shoulder, hates America, sees everything negatively, and has a $400 million contract just for talking. Does that make sense.
Obama looks like the last person in the world who would have a chip on his shoulder. All the criticism of him is that he is too mild-mannered and cannot get perturbed.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pm#11 Badmoodman……………
thats goes ditto for me!!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pmGreat post PLC.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pmAnd I have a feeling that had Professor Gates been of white skin pigmentation, that is exactly what would have went down.
Proud says:
I just hope more than anything that Gates is need dire need of the police to save his life sometime and the police respond with a hearty FU. That would be justice.
Yes that would be justice racist cops proving they are racists!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmdef?a?ma?tion??/?d?f??me???n/
Show Spelled Pronunciation [def-uh-mey-shuhn]
–noun the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel; calumny
Got it , Pud ?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmProud… what was your opinion of the events that took place in August, 1992 on Ruby Ridge in Idaho?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmProud thinks that officer piggy’s not ruling out a defamation lawsuit proves Dr, Gates defamed officer piggy!!!!
First off, officer piggy needs to actually file a defamation suit.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmthen officer piggy needs to win that suit.
Then proud, you have proof that Dr. Gates defamed officer piggy. What you have now is proof that you’re an idiot.
Proud, your link proving what “defamation” is, doesn’t. Just because someone asked the officer who said he wouldn’t rule out filing a defamation lawsuit, doesn’t mean that a judge or jury would rule that it was. The officer had smarter choices he could have made, which, by definition, means his choice to arrest was stupid. You, of all people, should understand stupid.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:10 pmisn’t this an instance of jack booted guvmint thugs accosting a citizen in his castle?
like another poster said upstream, shouldn’t the rightwingers be suggesting gates would have been justified pulling out his concealed carry piece and shooting the cop, who by their lights, should be classified as a fascist police state bully boy.
what’s different here?
it’s not that pwnd, limbaugh and the other racists are swayed by the respective skin colors of the actors in this particular drama, is it?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmMCMetal says:
Please list all the examples of the decades you and your ilk have been suppressed and targeted racially , and then maybe I’ll be able to see the equivalence………..
– - You’re kidding, right? EVERY ethnicity in the US has been racially targeted by one or more groups. In my case, Italian. Yeah, us Wops have never been stereotyped, discriminated against or targeted by anyone.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmProud says:
Kill’em all let God sort it out.
Ahh, so you’re not only NOT a critical thinker (even the latter part of that description is in doubt at this point) but you’re also violent… good.
I sure hope that when the police inevitably pay you a nice visit at your home you are polite and cooperative. I would hate to see you injured during the arrest.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pmHey proud, Unions are outlawed in Communist countries such as Cuba, China and North Korea. In Nazi Germany, unions were outlawed. So which one are you, Communist or Nazi?
Oh I forgot. You only love unions so as long as the union in question backs up a racist pig……..like you.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pmrhf, sorry I missed that yesterday. Point taken!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pmhar5125 says: Point taken!
Put it back!!! Othersise, Proud’s hood won’t fit right!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmWhat do you expect? Health care in this country is in shambles, and all of the news outlets lea with one meaningless comment.
On top of that, half of the things these pundits are saying is nonsense.
Take for example this gem of an analogy.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2275
July 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmHey proud, the more you post, the more we flag. ALL of your posts have been flagged.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pmPwoud appears to have disapweered.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmBadmoodman says:
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MCMetal says:
Please list all the examples of the decades you and your ilk have been suppressed and targeted racially , and then maybe I’ll be able to see the equivalence………..
- – You’re kidding, right? EVERY ethnicity in the US has been racially targeted by one or more groups. In my case, Italian. Yeah, us Wops have never been stereotyped, discriminated against or targeted by anyone.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
By cops ?
Yeah , maybe for a time if you were from NYC or Chicago , because of the stigma attached (unfairly) to all Italians being associated with the Mob ; that still falls far short of the decades upon decades that blacks were suppressed and disciminated against.
BTW
I’ve had long hair for decades and know what it’s like to constantly be pulled over for my appearance ; I still can’t claim I know what it’s like to be a black man/harrassed on that type level…………….
July 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pmReply to #11 Badmoodman: First of all the two things have nothing to do with each other. Let me get this straight. You think since the President said that officer acted stupidly it gives this racist pig the right to use racist remarks about the President? Apparently you agree with Rush Limpbaugh. Look man, I could say your remarks are stupid, but that doesn’t equate to using a racist remark like the one this racist pig used. I think that cop acted stupidly too, but that doesn’t mean I think he is racist.
Since when did the word “stupid” and “racist” begin to mean the same thing? Check the meaning in Webster’s before you go off making stupid remarks yourself. I’m sure that the President was overreacting when the used the word “stupid” just as the officer was when he arrested this man in his own home. Put yourself in Prof. Gates place. Do you think that disagreeing or questioning a cop is cause for you to be arrested in your own home for a crime that was never committed i the first place. What happened to the 1st admendment? I thought we had freedom of speech. If you can’t disagree with a cop, then everyone who they come into contact with is automatically guilty if they open their mouth to disagree. You have to think first before inserting you foot.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pmMCMetal says:
By cops ?
Yeah , maybe for a time if you were from NYC or Chicago
– - Italians got a bad rap all over, don’t kid yourself. And yeah, I’m from Chicago.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pmBadmoodman says:
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MCMetal says:
By cops ?
Yeah , maybe for a time if you were from NYC or Chicago
- – Italians got a bad rap all over, don’t kid yourself. And yeah, I’m from Chicago.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Well , I’m not responsible for the mores and attitudes of places like East Incest , Kentucky ………..Plus , I’m also not all that old ; I cannot speak with authority or have any practical experience on the attitudes of Americans over the past 40 to 50 years , when I’ve only traveled the country the past couple of decades…………
July 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmAnother time I hear my landlord yelling at someone outside the house we both shared so I peek out to see what the hullabaloo was about and she was yelling at my boyfriend who was walking down the driveway after parking up top.
I stepped out and had to tell her, “It’s ok Dina, he’s my friend.”
July 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmBadmodman says
- – Italians got a bad rap all over, don’t kid yourself. And yeah, I’m from Chicago.
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i’m irish and italian, family’s from chi but i live downstate. i’ve had cops deliberately pronounce my name funny and hassle me, though not really for my ethnicity.
still, it’s nothing like the harassment black males get on a daily basis.
you’re not disputing that, are you…?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmThe Shadow says:
Reply to #11 Badmoodman: First of all the two things have nothing to do with each other. Let me get this straight. You think since the President said that officer acted stupidly it gives this racist pig the right to use racist remarks about the President? Apparently you agree with Rush Limpbaugh. Look man, I could say your remarks are stupid, but that doesn’t equate to using a racist remark like the one this racist pig used. I think that cop acted stupidly too, but that doesn’t mean I think he is racist.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
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If you read the rest of Badmoodman’s comments, you’ll see that he’s in no way justifying Limbaugh’s bloviations. Just addressing the stupidity of Obama’s comment. Which it was. Even Jon Stewart called it stupid.
I mean, unless you’re arguing that the President actually meant to have his entire health care press conference wiped out, move health care reform off the news agenda for a week, and take the country off on a tangent about race relations just at the moment he needs the public to rally behind him on what could be the most important policy initiative of his Presidency, I don’t see how you could call it anything but “stupid.”
Mr. Obama is a very intelligent man. He knows the press, and knows how they work, and knows that they have the attention span of a swarm of gnats. He certainly should have known better than to say something so easily misquoteable given the gravity of what he’s trying to accomplish policy-wise.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmI totally just voted up lebowski’s comment because I vehemently approve of his screenname.
Your comments really tie the thread together, man.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmchiroptera toasterhead says:
I mean, unless you’re arguing that the President actually meant to have his entire health care press conference wiped out, move health care reform off the news agenda for a week, and take the country off on a tangent about race relations just at the moment he needs the public to rally behind him on what could be the most important policy initiative of his Presidency, I don’t see how you could call it anything but “stupid.”
– - Heh. Somebody gets it.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So watchdog clearly supports the ATF in their actions in Waco, and the FBI’s actions at Ruby Ridge, because otherwise, he’d be a hypocrite…
July 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmthe troll is starving — don’t feed it
July 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmNothing like a Limbaugh thread to bring the cyst suckers out from under a rock.
Proud, RC, watchdog…. proud defenders of the fat maggot with oozing cysts and a drug problem. Sucks to be you.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmRealityCheck says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Who could have known you were a lying dipshit ?
Me ………….And everyone else here
July 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmKeep in mind watchdog, your buddy Timmy McVie commited an act of terrorism because of the legal actions taken by the ATF at Waco.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmwatchdog
Would you care to cite the statute that declares being a jerk on your own property to be an arrestable offense?
Oh, what’s that? There isn’t one? Hmm. Fancy that.
coughdumbasscough.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmsmidget says:
I totally just voted up lebowski’s comment because I vehemently approve of his screenname.
Your comments really tie the thread together, man.
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thanks man.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThe liberal spoiled brat mentality on display better than I have ever witnessed.
In order to be treated as an adult one must act as one. And clearly according to the police report Gates acted like a little brat kid.
since when does asking for the police officer’s name constitute being a little brat kid?
Again, this pig lied on the report and you’re running with it just like a racist would little racist.
Shut the fcuk up. You are in no position to make a statement like this. You only promoted your own hate toward blacks moron.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmwatchdog says:
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Intrepid says:
And gates was arrested because he ASKED for the pigs name. Something Gates has the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to know. The pig violated his civil rights as an AMERICAN CITIZEN.
So proud, are you proud to be against civil rights and proud to be an anti-american racist pig?
The liberal spoiled brat mentality on display better than I have ever witnessed.
In order to be treated as an adult one must act as one. And clearly according to the police report Gates acted like a little brat kid.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah , as opposed to that “real , self-made man” , George W Bush …………….
Zip it already , you brainless mongrel ………….
July 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pmWhere’s proud? Did the banhammer strike him down finally?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
RealityCheck says:
Who could have known I am a Racist in hiding?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pmFixed. :)
RealityCheck says:
Wow…such HATE from all right wingnuts? Did I skip my cyanide dose again??
You sure did.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pmReply to #249: chirotera toasterhead
If you read badmood’s comments at post #28 you will see that he says: “Today he looks less post racial than he did a week ago” to partiallly quote him. Why do he look “less post racial” by saying what he (Obama)did? There is no such thing as “post racial” in America. I have experience the very same type of treatment by police officers and I have never committed a crime in my life. They don’t show black men the same respect they show whites. If a person is biased before becoming a cop then that stays with them.
Getting a badge and a gun doesn’t change who you are, it only makes them more aggressive. No cop wants to be questioned and they aren’t taught to be nice to people before they cast suspicions on them. I know tons of cops both black and white, some of them worked with me before becoming cops. Most if not all of them act as if they don’t know me anymore or treat me as a suspect rather than a friend they have known for years. I was told by several of them that they are taught to suspect everyone until they know otherwise, even friends.
Besides that I had a cop question me after I accidently set off my alarm during daylight hours and after I stood and waited in my driveway, showed him my I.D., credit cards, and business card. So don’t tell me about what police officer will and will not do. I unlike white men have to worry about getting accidently shot during a routine traffic stop. Just a few weeks ago a white NYPD Cop shoot a black NYPD cop in the back killing him during a joint operstion for “running” at the crime scene. Since when to cops become, “Cop, Judge, Jury and Executioner?” What ever happened to “trial by a jury of your peers? Being a veteran who served in the US Army for 11 years, I would like to think that a cop would treat me the same as any other person who loves his country and has fought for it. But my friend my race makes me less then my fellow Americans to some cops. Walk around in my shoes for one day and you would not believe it? I’m still not saying that cop was racist, I just think he overreacted as I stated before.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmRealityCheck says:
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Wow…such HATE from all you liberals? Did you skip your Midol dose again?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Actually the only thing I feel for you and your twin GOP suckhole sycophants is pity ; it must be awful to have to go through life living in your lie-and-delusional-filled world , being as glaringly unintelligent and gullible as you 3 obviously are…………..
July 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmthe trolls don’t ever get a new script, do they.
it says all we need to know about the caliber of their intellect and the honesty of their argument.
i know this will fall on deaf ears, but if you want real debate, bring facts and rationality. if you’re a moron, then continue with the silly juvenile attempts at taunting the rest of us and get voted back into irrelevancy.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pmReality Chump FLAGGED @ 266.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmThe Shadow says:
Walk around in my shoes for one day and you would not believe it
I, for one, agree with you just on the basis of walking around next to friends in your shoes.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmWay are you intolerant of fat people? are you implying that fat people are somehow less of a human being than you? you seem to be making bigoted remark toward fat people.
You seem to be making bigot remarks towards black people. Your point watchpussy?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pmwatchdog – that’s a false equivalence and you know it.
Some people are born with dark skin.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmNo one is born weighing 350 lbs.
Fat is an identifier, it’s the cyst oozing maggot part that you should focus on puppy.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:22 pmwatchdog says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
No , you moron.
They are stating that a drug addicted lying moron has ZERO CREDIBILITY trying to analyze/criticize others , especially when they themself weigh a couple of tons ; when has that whale ever had a millisecond of self-reflection and/or legitimate critique of his own pathetic existence ?
NEVER…………
July 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmlimpdic + scared uneducated white people = racist
limpdic please explain why you need viraga when you are traversing with grown men to an island that’s known for child prositution?
limpdic is a stupidass junkie with no woman.
Gawd I hate that man and his lying robots.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmRush limpballs is fat-Fact
July 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pmRush used an anal cyst to dodge the draft-Fact
Rush feeds off the carcass of reality, like a maggot feeds off roadkill-Fact
After listening to these racist dumbasses I become like the kids on the “GameTap” commericals.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pmEspecially uneducated little white supremacist who protect Limpdick and support his racist dribble. It goes to show how much repukes love little pedos who go to countries that are known for child prostition. Limpdick has sex with little kids. Repukes are pedos. Isn’t it obvious?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmwatchdog says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
How many times must you be told that a police report IS NOT FACT , stupid ass ?
Are you learning impaired ?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pm@ watchpussy.
It’s the ones I flagged.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmWhat I think about is Gates’ NEIGHBOR didn’t recognize him? I mean really? It was broad daylight. If I was a conspiracy person I would almost think she did it on purpose.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIt sure does ………
July 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmLike the police report of Gate acting like a d0uche bag?
You mean the police report the pig in question lied in? Ask yourself why the DA dropped the charges if he did anything wrong racist boy.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmJust admit it Dogwash – you and your fat, loudmouth, liar hero are racist bigots, plain and simple.
Too bad you weren’t born 400 years ago.
(’cause then we wouldn’t have to read your defective ranting)
July 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pmThe Shadow says:
If you read badmood’s comments at post #28 you will see that he says: “Today he looks less post racial than he did a week ago” to partiallly quote him. Why do he look “less post racial” by saying what he (Obama)did? There is no such thing as “post racial” in America. I have experience the very same type of treatment by police officers and I have never committed a crime in my life. They don’t show black men the same respect they show whites. If a person is biased before becoming a cop then that stays with them.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
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I don’t disagree. There is no such thing as “post racial.” There is still a quite normal tendency for people socialized in this country to harbor negative connotations towards black males. We all do it – whether we’re black, white, civilian or cop. Of course, it’s much more dangerous when it’s a cop with a badge and a gun. I’m well aware of the differing standards of treatment of white and black people by many in law enforcement.
I’m not going to speak for Badmoodman, but from my standpoint the issue is not what Obama said. I completely agree with him – the police acted stupidly. I just think that he should not have said it at this point in time given what he hopes to accomplish. An “I’m not going to comment on that without knowing the facts” would’ve sufficed.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pmBut, but the ReichWing Lemmings just love idolizing a drug addicted abuser of underage male Dominican Republic prostitutes…
….it what they fantasise about.
Hey, loser, Watchdog why aren’t you at your post at the Old Folks Home?
You must be a real high tech achiever….LOL…loser.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmwatchdog says:
Like the police report of Gate acting like a d0uche bag?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
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What’s your point? If douchebaggery was a crime, you’d be serving consecutive life sentences already.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmAll of your posts have been flagged watchdo*chebag. No go join proud enroute to the sock puppet factory to make a new one so I can flag you again.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmOn the MSN startpage it shows a photo of the cop with the tag line: Officer Tells His Side Of The Story.
Don’t really need to read it. Racist mofo.
Man the trouble I’ve had with the police in the past and I’m a white guy. It’s nothing and I mean NOTHING compared what my black friends have gone through.
What a bunch of bullshi* I wasn’t going to comment today until MSN decided it needed to put his racist as* on it’s start page.
Pisses me off.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmMost republicans are usually fat or chubby. This is a fact you cannot deny. They usually have neck flesh as well, and have an odd obsession with boys aged 4 – 12
July 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmas the few racists children posting here show, psychologically stunted racism isn’t going away anytime soon.
but, as the vast majority of others show, intelligent people can debate this issue on its merits.
that is the course we have to encourage. and it seems to be the tack obama is advocating.
http://blahgblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/behind-the-mask/
July 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmrepublicans hate facts says:
watchdog says:
Kinda of like the double standard enacted on your fellow democrat Imus. that was no double standard. and what about the comments of your friend sotomayor that did nothing to damage her career.
If KKKons worried about DOUBLE STANDARDS Limbaugh would have been REMOVED like IMUS WAS and ALITO wouldn’t have been CONFIRMED because he made an IDENTICAL STATEMENT that Sotomayor did. HYPOCRISY MUCH?
watchdog says:
and let not forget the backlash with Sen. Lott and his comment that cause him to loose his title of majority leader.
You mean his KKK RACIST STATEMENT? Yeah IMAGINE THAT! ;)
watchdog says:
and we can’t forget Reginald Denny in the LA Riots who was pulled out of his truck and beat over the head with a brick because of his skin color. The blacks were not convicted of a hate crime.
How about the ACQUITTAL of the FOUR OFFICERS who BEAT RODNEY KING that *LED* to that BEATING? No HATE CRIMES for THEM? Yet you WANT ONE for these GUYS?
HYPOCRISY MUCH – you RACIST D*UCHEBAG?
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmThe Mangy Mongrel is trying to claim Imus is a Dem ?
Are you kidding me ? Have you ever heard how much he despises the Clintons ?
What part of your stupid ass do you pull this nonsensical shit out from ?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmwatchdog says:
It is slowly getting very old and over used. this will get to a breaking point in this country and i hope its sooner than later.
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So does this mean you’re hoping folks like Limbaugh and Beck quit using race to stir up their base?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmsmidget #214 says:
Lefty Liberal@174
I have to disagree a little here.
One does not have to earn my respect, they have to earn my disrespect. All people get respect from me simply because they are human beings until they give me a reason to take it away.
I personally feel that if everyone held this opinion, life would be a little better. I could be wrong, but there is plenty to say about defaulting to treating others with decency.
I agree with what you wrote, and I actually think the difference between the two of us is a matter of semantics. I accord everyone with a basic level of respect due to their just being alive, I think that you would refer to that as “common decency”.
The type of respect I was referring to is respect for their use of authority.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmwatchdog says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
So OJ Simpson was held and put on trial because of all the “good publicity” ?
Are you completely insane ?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pmJust a few observations:
1. Lucia Whalen needs to get to know her neighbors. If she had known who Gates was, she would have known he was trying to enter his own house, she wouldn’t have called 911, and this all could have been avoided.
2. Crowley had an obligation to go investigate the 911 call. But unless Gates threatened him with violence or pulled a weapon on him, Crowley overreacted by arresting him. While Gates’ own behavior was a bit extreme, it should not be a crime to yell at somebody in your own home, even if that person is a police officer. Crowley, even though he was faced with a screaming man (and probably reacted reflexively), he could have done a better job of diffusing the situation.
3. Gates probably wasn’t in the best of moods when Crowley arrived. He had just come back from a trip (and traveling makes everybody crabby), he had to practically break down his own door to get into his house, he was calling somebody about the stuck door problem (and probably getting put on hold, fueling more frustration), and then to cap it all off, the police arrive because somebody reported him breaking into his own house. This would cause anyone to go off the deep end, even somebody who had never been the victim of racial profiling or a member of a group routinely profiled. However, Gates probably would have had an easier time if he had kept a cool head. He overreacted.
4. President Obama probably should have kept a neutral position until all the facts were known (and even now the official police report doesn’t match Gates’ version of events exactly). By speaking his mind at the time, hObama’s succeeded in saying something that has not only gone viral, but has usually been misquoted. And the last thing he needs right now is for the media focus to fly away from what he’s trying to accomplish with the economy and health care (like Limbaugh needs more fuel).
Can we just say there’s enough bad behavior and stupidity to go around here?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmrepublicans hate facts says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
So OJ Simpson was held and put on trial because of all the “good publicity” ?
Are you completely insane ?
She hasn’t had her FULL DOZEN DONUTS YET! Blame it on the LACK OF SUGAR! ;)
July 24th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I’m gonna’ blame it on the fact that his brain fluid is made up of gravy ………..
July 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmI think Obama was in a no-win situation with that question in the news conference.
If he hadn’t commented Limpthing and his brain-dead followers would have just gone on and on about how he didn’t even stick up for one of his own, he didn’t stick up for one of his friends and/or he was too afraid to discuss it.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmwatchdog says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Those 3 people you listed have a combined IQ of over 450 ; you , Limpballs , Jabba the Hastert and Duke Cunningham combined are 450 tons of stupid shit ………And nothing else.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmWatchmaggot says: Because of the press this story received. any good police chief knows regardless of the outcome and who was right or wrong this is bad publicity for any district because race is such a hot button issue. It is slowly getting very old and over used. this will get to a breaking point in this country and i hope its sooner than later.
The press had nothing to do with it. It was the Union who are protecting this pig is the reason why there is such a media stink f-tard.
The DA made the right decision and that’s what pissing your cowardly racist idiot self off. The pig was in the wrong and you know it.
Do you fancy riding high horses with four broken legs? Time for you to shoot it and get a new high horse to ride on tool.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmmary lacewing says:
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I think Obama was in a no-win situation with that question in the news conference.
If he hadn’t commented Limpthing and his brain-dead followers would have just gone on and on about how he didn’t even stick up for one of his own, he didn’t stick up for one of his friends and/or he was too afraid to discuss it.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
How is it that when the most moronic and worst president in US history stated or did anything , those like Mangy Mutt and his ilk were irate and screamed that even questioning the president on anything during a “time of war” was tantamount to treason ; yet now , it’s not only plausible , but absolutely necessary ?
Yet Mangy Mutt wants to prattle on about “double standards” ?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pmThere was NO CRIME COMMITTED so HAULING OFF GATES was a CRIMINAL ACT. Gates has a LAWSUIT he CAN WIN if he decides to.
I hope he does RHF. A civil rights lawsuit.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmwatchdog says:
Like the police report of Gate acting like a d0uche bag?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
It’s not illegal to act like a dooshbag, idiot.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmwatchdog says:
undoubtedly your not suggesting all fat people share your reason for their size? if so that would be a bigoted comment. and that in-turn would brand you a hypocrite.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
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Oh, please. Who the hell are you to call anyone else a hypocrite, tubby?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pmSorry, rhf. I didn’t feel like wading through more troll crap.
The cop would be in jail, too. ;)
July 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pmAs watchpup should know, since he’s presumably still at large, on the street.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pmZooey says:
watchdog says:
Like the police report of Gate acting like a d0uche bag?
July 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
It’s not illegal to act like a dooshbag, idiot.
To watchmaggot, even being a black person is illegal let alone acting like a d0ucheb@g.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pmI wonder if watchsockpuppet is under police investigation. He seems to be the kind who would commit a criminal act on a minority.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pmrepublicans hate facts says:
Intrepid says:
To watchmaggot, even being a black person is illegal let alone acting like a d0ucheb@g.
Yes but watchb*tch thinks BEING *MORBIDLY* OBESE is *BEAUTIFUL*!!! ;)
I wonder how watchsockpuppetmaggotbrain would react if McDonalds went bankrupt.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:07 pmwatchdog says:
Do you have evidence of that wild claim?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
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Every post you’ve ever made, lardface.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmIntrepid says:
I wonder if watchsockpuppet is under police investigation. He seems to be the kind who would commit a criminal act on a minority.
Probably lives in one of those RUBE TOWNS where his COUSIN/BROTHER the COP helps him DRAG BLACK MEN on the BUMPER OF TRUCK…
You mean his cousin/brother who share their girlfriend who happens to be their sister?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pmwatchdog says:
Do you have evidence of that wild claim?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Google pics of each ; any more stupid questions , you flea bitten mutt ?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmI mean preteen sister?
(addendum to 350)
July 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmAbout two months ago, I had to go to the uber-rich portion of Oakland County, Michigan, to clean six sites next to the road of all of the debris that was carelessly tossed there. The area is notorious for swamps, so I wore a hooded sweatshirt and long pants on a day with a 70 degree temperature to keep the mosquitoes at bay.
I was pulled over by the police as I was heading back home. Apparently the uber rich neighbors were alarmed at the sight of me. I did not raise my voice even though I was expecting it and I was exasperated at being pulled over. It took a half hour to conduct the stop, and I was free to go without any other issues.
Reading this incident, and remembering the one I had, I just have to wonder how it would have went if I were an African-American. Would the cop have treated me differently? Would I have been arrested for loitering?
The cop in my opinion was unjustified in arresting the man once he was identified as the homeowner. Just let him retire into the house and don’t let it escalate into the point where it got. There are times where it is just more prudent to walk away, and this was one of those instances.
I also think, at the risk of sounding concerned, that Barrack Obama did not make a wise decision in discussing this issue. It took the discussion off of the necessary health care reforms and it directed it onto race relations and culture wars. I do not think that it is inappropriate for Obama to discuss the issue, as race relations don’t get swept under the rug just because he finally made it to the presidency, but I think the timing of it was the error. Focus on health care now, and address the issue when it inevitably surfaces and when less is at stake.
As for the Harvard professor, it would be easy for me to criticize him for being belligerent towards a policeman. However, I cannot say that I would react any differently if I were placed in the circumstance of having the police visit just because I am trying to get into my own home. I personally believed that according to the letter of the law, he did do something wrong here, but in the spirit of the law, the correct decision in dropping the charges was made.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’ve been trying to think of what good can come out of this (something I do to help keep my sanity) and I’m wondering if this won’t increase awareness somewhat down the road.
There’s a good chance that this’ll happen again and maybe, just maybe, the parties involved will recall this incident and check themselves before something regrettable happens.
And maybe the next time a light-skinned person looks at a dark-skinned person they’ll examine their own reaction and consider it honestly.
Kind of like in AA, from what I understand, the first mission you have is to admit you have a problem.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:16 pmDid watchmaggot go poof?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmvigor says:
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July 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Republican idea on getting a “job” : Dad , can I have a job ?
Republican idea on “taking care of their family” : You know how tough it is to keep taking money from lobbyists and special interest groups , to care for my immediate family and that of my mistress(es) ?
BTW
I simply asked that question to highlight the asinine and incredibly stupid statement you made regarding Obama , ignorant tool…………
July 24th, 2009 at 4:26 pm“myth” that there’s a health care crisis. “Health care’s got to be priced the same way a hotel room is, or a car is. You want to stay at the Ritz? You pay for it,” Limbaugh said.
It’s no crisis for you considering you have a 400,000,000 dollar contract with clear channel and is able to afford it. So why do you hate the poor who can’t afford something that is a human right dickweed? Go do some more drugs. It’s doing your last two brain cells wonders.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pmrepublicans hate facts says:
Intrepid says:
Did watchmaggot go poof?
It’s like the MONTY PYTHON SKIT from the MEANING OF LIFE
“I COULDN’T EAT ANOTHER BITE – POOF”… ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlfcF1I5e_g
Monty Python rocks!!
July 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmHey proud, hey watchmaggot,
From Fox News.
The sockpuppet factory shut its doors and laid off all its sockpuppet employees due to the economic crunch. Looks like you’re shit out of luck.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmproud and watchdog and Reality Check suffer from empathy deficiency but then again, that evil E word is OMG TEH COMMIE PINKO VIRUS just waiting to happen.
How would YOU act if you were in Professor Gates’ position? It’s easy for you armchair Fighting Keyboardists of the 101st to talk, but until you are in the position, perhaps you should read and learn about the suspicion and intolerance that the African-American and other minority communities have had to face…and then perhaps you can see why the good professor acted as he did.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmUmmm…the “ex” drug abuser who had no empathy for OTHER drug addictive human beings…espousing that THEY should all go straight to jail, is now now speaking of a “chip” on ones’ shoulder…might realize that HE has a “shit” on his shoulder…plainly interpreted as “shit for brains”.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Agreed. Of course, I’m not a 58-year-old black man living in a mostly white suburb.
And the police officer shouldn’t have arrested the man for mouthing off to a police officer on his own property.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pmconservative guy says:
Gates should have kept his mouth shut.
oh right, he was uppity…is that what you were trying to say?
July 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pmconservative guy says:
Gates should have kept his mouth shut.
I used to have a neighbor who’d get drunk out of his mind till four or five in the morning and he’d go outside and yell and scream and bang things on the side of peoples houses.
We’d call the cops on him probably once a week and he’d stand on his front porch and cuss them out every way a retired sailor could.
And no matter how much we wished and pleaded they wouldn’t arrest him. Of course he was a white guy.
What do you think would have happened to him if he were black?
July 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pmAnyone who thinks this is not about race is brain dead or a racist.
July 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pmI caught the tail end of a report from the White House in which it appears that President Obama called the officer and, in essence, apologized for his own remarks. He also said that both men were overreacting. In the brief bit I heard, he also said staff would be arranging for the three of them to get together in the White House for a beer. More here at NYT.
This is what you get when you elect adults to the White House.
July 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pmI think everyone has missed something vital. The arresting officer was following procedure. He may or may not have been prejudiced, but it’s not the fault of the officer.
The problem is with the procedures the police are trained to follow. Those procedures are not racist per se, but they give the police an excuse to arrest anyone for anything, legitimate or not.
Was Obama right to call this police officer stupid? Probably not a good idea politically, but the police officer is trained not to use his brain, but to follow departmental policy. He was being stupid because he was trained to be stupid.
This type of police abuse of authority happens every day across the country. We have a police state, where the police don’t give a damn about doing the right thing, only in following procedure as an excuse to do whatever the hell they want. This type of procedure is flawed and needs to be changed, but don’t blame the individual officer.
As for Gates, he was right to be angry with the police, they abused their authority and he got angry, go figure. The police officer made a stupid choice in following a stupid procedure.
I don’t know why any American obeys the police anymore other than out of fear of punishment. The United States is not a nation of laws, until such time as Bush and Cheney are in prison for the rest of their lives.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmWhat procedure calls for him to anything after he verified that Gates was the homeowner.
bogus and it’s just racism. You can’t justify it.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:06 pmThe pig is a covert racist. Gates can say what he wants outside of threatening the pig. Other than that the pig should have sucked it up and left. The pig is a loose cannon who should resign.
Thank God Gates showed ID in his house otherwise his ID could be taken as a gun and he would have been shot.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:28 pmIf Gates were white the pig would had wished Gates to have a good day and apologized.
Now he has our President and Prof. Gates as being faulty. President Obama suggested that Gates and the pig talk it out in the WH. UNBELIEVABLE.
I’m tired of giving in to racist mf.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:34 pmWe should not assume the arresting officer is a racist because he made an arrest. He may have followed a procedure that makes him appear to be a racist, but he was probably just doing his job the way he was trained to do it.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:39 pmLimbaugh’s Got The Chip On HIS Shoulder!
If you substitute “Limbaugh” for Obama, and “black” for the word “white”, Limbaugh would be describing himself perfectly!
“I think Obama (Limbaugh)is largely misunderstood by a lot of people. We’re finding out that this guy’s got a chip on his shoulder. He’s angry at this country (for voting in a black president). He’s not proud of it (for voting in a black president). […]”
“…and I think he’s got a chip on his shoulder. I think there are elements in this country he doesn’t like and he never has liked (because they voted in a black president). And he’s using the power of the presidency (microphone) to remake the country.”
Limbaugh just can’t believe that his country could have elected a black man as HIS president and THAT’S the bottom line for the hypocrite Rush Limbaugh.
July 24th, 2009 at 7:22 pmThis is why I dig President Obama. Everyone makes mistakes. But, he addresses his:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090723/NEWS-US-OBAMA-RACE/
It would have been very easy to ignore the issue and hope for it to go away. But, his response was timely and thoughtful and appropriate.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:10 pmLet’s face it, gasbag was preaching to his choir. And when you
think about it, he’s confirming the exact point Obama was making. Race relations have not advanced as far as most people
would like to believe. Just because America elected an African
American president, everything is not hunky-dory.
When I think of all the exemplary people that have recently
July 24th, 2009 at 8:21 pmdied, what a shame that hate mongers seem to live forever.
Game of Life. You don’t want to deal with racists, but your content with calling a man that you don’t know a ‘pig’ and a racist.
This is apparently a man that was hand picked by a black police commissioner to teach recruits about avoiding racial profiling. A man that administered mouth to mouth to Reggie Lewis to try to save his life.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1186567&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull
But now that there’s a dispute between him and a black man, he’s racist?
Your too comfortable in your stereotypes.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:37 pmI have no idea what the procedure is, but what about this:
A neighbor sees two men enter the house and calls police. Gates comes home and can’t get in. Police come with the knowledge that two men may be inside the house.
Just because Gates goes into a tirade about white racism and discrimination, the police have no responsibility to follow up on the possibility of intruders being in the house?
If the police left and Gates was subsequently beaten or killed by intruders, wouldn’t they be found derelict for not investigating further?
July 24th, 2009 at 8:53 pmRachael is and has been doing a great job about repugs-blowing-up-racism-which-their-club-is-known-for-so-they-don’t-talk-about-healthcare.
Good job, rach.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:15 pmback, don’t f with me, I’m not ralph or dbadass.
I see they’d worn your lying azz out.
ROTFLMAO
July 24th, 2009 at 9:20 pmPeople like Limbaugh have trouble differentiating between bigotry and rational prejudice, and are unable to recognize bigotry in their own words and actions, so they take what they perceive to be the criteria used by those that can see the difference and apply them indiscriminately.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pmReply to #381 backup:
No you are wrong! The cop should have left after he verified Dr. Gates lived in the home. Why? Gates had told him that he was the one the lady saw entering his own home and shown him his ID. What would you do if a cop keeps insisting on harrassing you after you have proven you are in your own home and no crime has been committed. The problem with people like you is you always take the policeman’s word for what happened. I don’t suppose that the cop could have been insulted that Dr. Gates was asking for his badge number. No that couldn’t be it, right? I’m sure that cops always treat you with respect, so you wouldn’t have any idea what black men have to go through with cops.
My brother in law, who is white, related a story to me about arguing with a cop over a speeding ticket. I, a black man, told him that I couldn’t do the same thing without getting beat up or shot. Just last year on 4th July (at fireworks), a white cop threatened my wife by saying: “If you move that car, I’ll come and snatch your ass out of it and arrest you”, for no reason other than me being black and her white. I told her not to move an inch, because I was afraid that stupid cop was hurt her. So come on man, you don’t have a clue what the (H E double toothpicks) you are talking about. The world you live in and the real world for blacks dealing with cops is two different things. I live that reality everyday, you just speculate about it.
July 24th, 2009 at 9:57 pmIf b-cup thinks all cops are clean, he should volunteer to go to a police stations with no attorney when the district attorney wants to wrap a case up for political reasons.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:09 pmIt ain’t pretty.I could give you the whole horror story but trust me, the system is rigged.
toony and lido
Limbaugh’s rantings deserve to be ignored. President Obama generally sets an excellent example of how to deal with racism. He acknowledges and condemns it while noting the gains we have made. He should not have said what he did without having seen and heard all the evidence. Especially if it’s true that a black fellow officer is defending Crowley’s actions.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:24 pmShadow. I’m not black, but I believe what you’re saying and admit that it goes on. It’s a real problem and I wish you did not have to deal with it.
Obama, however, initially made a mistake by painting Crowley and the Cambridge police with a the broad brush based on the situation that you describe.
Just as it’s wrong for the security guard at Wal-mart to tail the black guy because he’s sure he’s going to try to steal something, or the cop that pulls you over simply for DWB; it’s also wrong to assume that Crowley only detained Gates because he’s racist. Because Crowley is white and Gates is black.
Making assessments about someone based on their color; it all needs to stop.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:58 pmdietrich. Although I respect police in general and appreciate the difficult work they do; you’re right.
There are many bad apples that taint the bunch.
People should try to be respectful and cooperative to the police, but the police serve us and should not be enabled to deny the liberty of law abiding citizens.
You’re right.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:03 pmI’ve got to go to work, but I thought about this and found a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE
Disputes happen over judgement used by officers in individual circumstances.
Again, I think police are in a difficult position, often scrutinized in hindsight.
But, in the ‘Don’t tase me, Bro’ example, those questions arise without any seeming relationship to race of the parties.
If the male in the video was black, you would have to admit that the police actions would be characterized as racially motivated.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:37 pmvigor
You ignorant punkass troll. How did yo u get to be so stupid? Did you take special classes or experimental stupid pills or is it really a natural gift?
July 25th, 2009 at 5:11 amOn Morning Joe yesterday, Mika Brzezinski made one of the more ignorant and racist statements I have heard in the mainstream media in quite sometime.
Here is a clip. Man her father needs have a talk with her.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2288
July 25th, 2009 at 2:18 pmReply to #388, by Backup:
Thank you Backup for your comments and thoughts. You are truly understanding, thoughtful, and what makes America so great. I hope that my comments helped to contribute to a positive but frank conversation that needed to take place. No one can really know what is in another man’s heart or mind, I was just reflection on this unfortunate situation from the perspective of a Black man whose family is made up of whites, blacks, hispanics and Arabs.
Believe is or not that is true. My aunt is white, so is my wife, my white brother in law is married to an Arab women, my sister in law’s husband is hispanic. Our family is truly the melting pot of America. We had a race issue once, but when cooler heads prevailed, we openly and honestly settled our differences. My wife’s brother made a racist comment to her because she was married to me. When I called him on it, he got upset and hung up the phone. However when I explained to him that his wife is Arabic and that she wasn’t born in the country and I was, yet he felt I was less than her. He got even more upset, so I asked him one more question. I asked: How it was that I an 11 year US Army veteran, who was born and raised in American, could be thought of as somehow less than a person who came to America at age 15 and was of a diffferent race (Arabic) than him.
After silence on the phone, he replied: “You are right, she is Arabic and shouldn’t be thought of as more than you are or you shouldn’t be thought of as being less of a human being than her.” That was the first time my brother in law saw his own racism on full display. Just think about that situation. How can a man be married to an Arabic women, but be racist against a black man who fought for his country? I explained to him that the very freedom he enjoyed was paid for by me and many other dead soldiers both black and white. All too often people forget that our cemetaries are filed with the remains brave black men who died for a country they loved. Did those men die so that other people could hate them or did they die for freedom? All we want is for our country to love us as much as we love it!!!!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pmTPers must have overlooked BHO’s previous associations with the Cambridge Police.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104935
Scofflaw’ Obama has history with ’stupid’ Cambridge police
Condemns action of officer at department that ticketed prez 17 times while a student
Does this mean that while the President was a student in Cambridge he had a car with a bumper sticker that said, “This is a brother’s car. If you ticket it you’re a racist.”
I’d think the President, a former U.S. Senator and a for Illinois State Senator, would have more respect for those responsible for enforcing the law. After all, setting a good example is a part of leadership, right?
He left parking tickets unpaid for twenty years?
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