Report: Cheney wanted to illegally deploy American troops in U.S. cities.
Report: Cheney wanted to illegally deploy American troops in U.S. cities.
The New York Times reports that in 2002, Vice President Cheney and his administration allies urged President Bush to deploy American troops into the suburbs of Buffalo to apprehend a group of terrorist suspects (the “Lackawanna Six”) and declare them enemy combatants. The Times notes:
A decision to dispatch troops into the streets to make arrests has few precedents in American history, as both the Constitution and subsequent laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property.
The Fourth Amendment bans “unreasonable” searches and seizures without probable cause. And the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 generally prohibits the military from acting in a law enforcement capacity.
Cheney cited a DoJ memo co-authored by John Yoo which claimed that “the president has ample constitutional and statutory authority to deploy the military against international or foreign terrorists operating within the United States.” Siding with Condoleezza Rice, FBI Director Robert Mueller, and others, Bush rejected Cheney’s advice and “ended up ordering the F.B.I. to make the arrests.”
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Why, that sick, evil old . . . where’s Neil!?
July 25th, 2009 at 12:04 am***
why didn’t he go in there
and arrest them himself?
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July 25th, 2009 at 12:16 am***
shoot ‘em in the face dick!
:|
July 25th, 2009 at 12:20 amSo basically they were just making it up as they went along, and there were always the “legal” lapdogs trotting behind, willing to give them whatever “legal” cover they needed.
What a bunch of sick, twisted, treasonous fcukers. Why aren’t any of them under investigation, let alone rotting in some prison, by now?
PEACE
July 25th, 2009 at 12:21 amAmerica is fortunate beyond imagining that this madman did not bring about a false flag incident as a rationale for declaring martial law, suspending elections, and who knows what else.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/13/9596
July 25th, 2009 at 12:22 amSome “journalist”,
Some “jounalist” with integrity, needs to ask Miss Cheney “Do you think that President Obama should have authority to send our Military into a U.S. city, for a situation he deems necessay for national security?”
Won’t happen. MSM is not liberal or conservative. They are just hungry for tabloid headlines. And, scared of the Cheneys. Even an unelected Cheney.
Gates vs. health care overhaul:
MSM: Gates > health care
Citizen: “My insurance company just denied my coverage for a procedure to dissect my lymph nodes for cancer staging” > Gates
July 25th, 2009 at 12:27 amWhen that sick old b@stard looks back, he will not be able to name one action for the good of our country he can claim…. just a bunch of death and destruction from greed.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:47 amCheney was a clear and present danger to this country as vice president.
No wonder he’s so terrified now.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:47 amI think Cheney wanted Martial Law. Badly. I think the FU of New Orleans was caused and/or amplified by Cheney & his cabal (including FOX, Limbaugh, Jonah Loadpants and others) in the hope of causing Race Riots, so the President, under the control of the VP would send in National Guard, National Reserves, and ultimately the Army.
Then a manufactured Terrorist attack…using perhaps the Airforce’s “lost” nuclear bombs.
I really think this evil evil person wanted to Rule The World. Who knows how close he may have been at different times?
July 25th, 2009 at 12:48 amAnyone else getting the feeling that the words “dictator for life” and “Dick Cheney” seem to go very well together these days?
Just saying . . .
July 25th, 2009 at 12:51 amHonest to God, that evil monster reminds me of Charles Manson – the leader of a murderous cult. He needs to share the same fate.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:56 amCheney and his lawyers were trying to use 9/11 to take over this country.
They may not have been very far from succeeding.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:57 amLine up all the undesirables and Cheney would unanimously be the most hated.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:57 amThe FBI is the only and proper organization for an operation of this kind. It is scary to even think that a military officer would give an order for a domestic operation like this. One presumes the President, armed with a letter from the Justice Department, would have to order the Secretary of Defense to order the top General (Fort Dix?) to deploy. Would they all obey orders in such an operation? It is scary to think that they would. Why did Bush not ask Cheney to resign and if he refused, dump him in 2004. Bush is responsible for all of Cheney’s actions.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:58 amWhy is Yoo employed? More importantly, why has he not been disbarred?
July 25th, 2009 at 1:00 amNot surprised by this latest on Darth Cheney. He is half human and half cyborg. Dick only cares about Dick. Nothing but pure evil person is all I have to say.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:02 amPresident Obama needs to remove the security detail from Cheney that we’re paying for. We owe him nothing.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:06 amCheney reminds me of how broken our justice system is. In the past, too many pardons and blind eyes were turned and just look at the mess Cheney and the rest of the Bush crime family created.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:07 amNow we gotta get ready for the Lying Lizzie tour next week.
Wonder why all the Repugs are staying away from him or are they? Cheney is a “sick phuck enemy combatant” and a danger not only to America but to the rest of the World.
cline001 says:
“MSM is not liberal or conservative. They are just hungry for tabloid headlines. And, scared of the Cheneys. Even an unelected Cheney.”
You don’t watch the Rachel Maddow Show or Countdown or even the Ed Show? Otherwise, if you did you would know that they and other show’s have repeatedly requested Dirty Lying Lizzie and her Sick Demented Evil father Cheney to be guest on their shows and the both of them keep denying their request. So who’s scared of who?
You need to STFU and get outta here you lying sack of shyt you have no clue as to what your talking about.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:09 amI’d just like to point out that it’s not like we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Cheney isn’t V.P. anymore. Cheney and the Bush family represent a long line of genuinely fascist elites in America.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:10 amThese people have wanted and worked towards fascism in America since they tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 (search “Business Plot” or “General Smedley Butler”) and they aren’t going to let one little election put them off. They completed setting up a lot of the necessary groundwork during the G.W. Bush administration and unfortunately I don’t see President Obama undoing very much of it. The next GOP puppet who gets put in office (notice I didn’t say “elected”) won’t have far to go to seal the deal unless a lot of things change real soon.
Shayne @ 17 Obama sure does.
BTW why isn’t Cheney’s other daughter not speaking out about her fathers misdeeds? I think it’s just strange for some reason.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:13 amranus69 says:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:13 am
They only seem to “use” the other daughter at election time.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:18 amOnce again, let me reiterate my wish to see the snarling visage of Cheney only as the hood is pulled down over it at the gallows.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:24 amah yes.. once again, Mr. “we know where saddam’s WMD’s are” wants us to just “trust him” to accurately determine whose an “enemy combatant” and who isn’t. any troll got a list of all the things dick cheney has been right about?
July 25th, 2009 at 1:35 amTotalitarian idealogues are all alike. Fortunately, the world economy is recovering from these losers, and the institutions that make the U.S. truly great have saved us from the worst of these fools.
All hail the ACLU, and the government workers that did what they could to keep these sociopaths in check, and to leak information about their diabolical plots.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:37 amThe more we hear about Cheney, the more he makes Nixon look good.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:47 amWTF? Darth Cheney wanted to invade … (wait for it) … America?
Holy hamburger, I’d hate to have been the poor staffer that had to clean up the brown stains ol’ Darth must have left all over the walls of his undisclosed location. Hm, come to think of it, the only way der Darth bunker could have been concealed would have required it to be located in or under the ShrubDC sewage treatment plant. The poor bastard must have been scared witless that the brown folks in turbans were coming after him.
And why didn’t they lock him up after he threw that tantrum? It must have been obvious that Uncle Dickie needed to be locked in the attic again – oh, sorry, everyone but Darth was busy with the stealth coup d’etat and didn’t have the time.
I’d wager that Darth Addington had a hand in the proposal, too.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:53 amI honestly believed they would suspend the elections and declare a permanent Presidency. But their poll numbers betrayed them deeply, and they lost their nerve.
Just wait until the next uncovering of their crimes. Sooner or later, Obama or Holder will have no choice but to indict these criminals. If they don’t, they are breaking the law, and their oaths, and they might as well join them in the jail cell.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:55 amIs it possible that Holder, on orders from Obama, is holding up the public side of the investigations until after healthcare reform is passed? Possible that the investigations and evidence gathering has, in fact, begun, but that they are waiting, publicly giving the GNOPers no valid reasons to obstruct?
Is this part of Obama’s grand chess game, or has the game been changed to Candy Land, just for shits and giggles?
The cynic within is kicking the hope within’s butt.
PEACE
July 25th, 2009 at 1:55 amI hate to say this and as wrong and illegal as Cheney’s actions or idea’s may have been on this, if the Democrats push this they will look bad.
The republicans will frame it as Bush & Cheney trying to protect our country against terrorism. It seems to me there may be an effort by the media, yes even the NY Times to keep pushing these stories knowing it will make the republicans appear stronger at protecting our country.
God forbid we suffer another terrorist attack in our country before 2012 because then the republicans and their spin machine will blame it all on Obama and the democrats. They will say “see diplomacy didn’t work” or “see, we needed to torture”
I hate Cheney with a passion and it seems that his little media tour has all been planned to stir up the far right and put his….daughter Liz in the spotlight in an attempt to kick start a possible political career where she will get all of the nutjobs on the right to support her.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:56 amI agree Daddy-O, but I just don’t think that Obama or the democrats have the stomach or the balls to go after the Cheney administration.
They are all gutless! They are so afraid of political fallout that upholding ones oath of office these days are meaningless otherwise we would have had impeachment hearings on both Bush and Cheney.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:00 amWhat azzhole voted me down?
July 25th, 2009 at 2:01 am“…f the Democrats push this they will look bad.”
And they look…how? Today? You wouldn’t say they look ‘good’, would you?
A pretty sizable majority of Americans WANTS this administration to investigate Bush and Cheney. They can only look good IF they investigate. Otherwise, they lose.
One theory that’s either gaining or losing steam is this: The more evidence that surfaces, the more pressure on Obama and Holder. What they’ll do about it is another thing entirely. It’s almost as if Obama and Congress are both standing there, waiting for the OTHER one to gather the courage to lead on this.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:02 amNot me, wiley! Probably someone who didn’t appreciate your sense of humor. Too well developed?
;-)
July 25th, 2009 at 2:05 amranus 69 says:
You don’t watch the Rachel Maddow Show or Countdown or even the Ed Show? Otherwise, if you did you would know that they and other show’s have repeatedly requested Dirty Lying Lizzie and her Sick Demented Evil father Cheney to be guest on their shows and the both of them keep denying their request. So who’s scared of who?
You need to STFU and get outta here you lying sack of shyt you have no clue as to what your talking about.
Come on now my little friend with little capability for reason. MSM = Main Stream Media. NOT MSNBC.
I think MSNBC has some good journalists and commentators. But, my little friend who likes to be abusive and ignorant, Liz Cheney does not appear on MSNBC. Unless it’s “Morning Joe” or some crap like that.
Control yourself and don’t be abusive.
Your misunderstanding is an embarrassment to rational discourse. The MSM I was talking about only included the platforms that let Miss Cheney spew her dishonesty and hypocrisy without follow up.
Your post belies civility and misses the point.
Sorry, but Rachel is not what is considered MSM. She should be… but she is not.
Look to the “White House Press Corps”. That is where the betrayal of the press lies. Not with Miss Madow, Mr. Olberman, or Mr. Schultz.
I can point to many journalists who get it.
Greenwald, Marshall, Pearlstein, etc. My post wasn’t directed at them.
Chill Out and stop with the hysterics
July 25th, 2009 at 2:10 amSo the rumor was true about Marshall Law. Buckshot wanted to stir up more drama to scare US citizens.
And buckshot big mouth daughter knows this.
This is too unreal.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:17 amThere you go Wiley, I got you back on the positive side. Don’t ever say I never did anything for you. ;)
July 25th, 2009 at 2:18 amcline001 says:
ranus 69 says:
Why do you have two nics?
July 25th, 2009 at 2:32 amCheney is a madman who would have caused a civil war.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:33 am“Illegal” is such a semantic term. After all, Cheney is a strong advocate of the Nixon philosophy — “when the President does it, it’s NOT illegal”.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:40 am“Pricky Dick” is such a demented ass!
July 25th, 2009 at 3:45 amcline001 @35
OMG!! can you ever forgive me? Anytime I hear or see Cheney my skin crawls and I get angry. I was wrong for misreading your post, please accept my apologies. I’m embarrassed, I didn’t catch MSM.
July 25th, 2009 at 4:18 amCheney is a sad and strange little man.
July 25th, 2009 at 4:27 amI wonder why Dick Cheney hates the Constitution and thereby America?
July 25th, 2009 at 5:09 amToday’s Republicans are nazoids.
They resemble Nazis, but lack the balls and brains of real Nazis.
July 25th, 2009 at 5:33 amThnx, Uncle Fester. I don’t feel right with negative numbers. It’s just not me.
July 25th, 2009 at 6:24 amPhoto Caption: Mmmmmmmm! That human flesh tastes good!
July 25th, 2009 at 6:29 amIt seems likely that Dick Cheney is mentally ill.
July 25th, 2009 at 6:34 amZooey @8, I accidently hit Vote Down rather than Vote Up on your comment. My apologies, still cloudy from sleep and the coffee hasn’t kicked in yet.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:06 amFrom the NY Times Article:
“Former officials said the 2002 debate arose partly from Justice Department concerns that there might not be enough EVIDENCE to arrest and successfully prosecute the suspects in Lackawanna. Mr. Cheney, the officials said, had argued that the administration would need a LOWER THRESHOLD of evidence to declare them enemy combatants and keep them in military custody.”
and yet….
“The five men arrested there in September 2002, and a sixth arrested nearly simultaneously in Bahrain, PLEADED GUILTY to terrorism-related charges.”
I’m thinking these CONVICTED terrorists might have have their charges thrown out of court, had Cheney’s Questionable Illegalities been carried out.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:15 amBack in 2000, when Chimpy let Cheney “pick” himself as VP, some of us from the Watergate era were chirping up about Cheney’s “unfinished” business that seemed to slide by with no consequences. This monster has been allowed to play der Fuhrer for far too long and should spend the remainder of his life behind bars.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:15 amPresident Obama,
It is up to you and your AG to restore the rule of law to America. Prosecute Bush and Cheney or America will forever remain a nation without the equality of all men under the law.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:27 amYikes!
July 25th, 2009 at 7:50 amAnd the above photo begs the question: Why is that man smiling?
July 25th, 2009 at 7:51 amThat’s not smiling. Somebody kicked him in the shin.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:05 amIn all fairness to Cheney, wanting to do something illeagle is not a crime.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:12 amApparently Yoo also drafted a memo that said Bush is ruler of space and time and has power over all animals, but Cheney squashed it since he was pissed off that he wasn’t included.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:28 amI still think the uproar we created on the lefty blogs with their plans to attack Iran caused them to call it off so the blogs probably prevented WWIII.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:29 amIn all fairness to us, it doesn’t have to be a crime to be disgusting and immoral. It also is insight into his dark agenda.
Who is being unfair?
July 25th, 2009 at 8:36 amAnd yet Obama’s Justice Department is using the same thinking: they say Bush’s lackey lawyers okayed torture, so it was therefore legal. What a confused, messed-up country we’re living in.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:58 amLevi the Dungbeetle says:
In all fairness to Cheney, wanting to do something illeagle is not a crime
Conspiracy to overthrow the constitution isn’t a crime?
The Lackawanna 6 hadn’t done anything, yet Cheney was willing to send troops into an American city to kick down the doors of their homes, make their mothers and sisters kneel in their living-rooms with their hands on their heads while they rounded up the menfolk and took them away, just like they do in Baghdad. And this is exactly what would have happened to any of the families if any of the 6 hadn’t been home at the time. This is what our military is trained to do. It’s what they do in a war zone and Cheney wanted to turn our nation into that war zone.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:18 amLevi the Dungbeetle says:
In all fairness to Cheney, wanting to do something illeagle is not a crime
Cheney gave up the right to fairness a long time ago.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:21 amI hate those people and those who voted for them and it seems to getting worse even since they were removed from office. It bothers me that I might have this hate inside me for Cheney and the other individuals and other Americans who voted for them the rest of my life. And that makes me hate them more. lol
July 25th, 2009 at 9:28 amI must admit, Dick Cheney did the impossible:
He actually made Bush look smart.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:30 amI guess more time is needed to sort it all out. I am scarred from the past 8 years. I wish it had never happened. And still can’t get past with it because they and their crimes still linger and Liz Cheney is out there and Kristol. Maybe trials for them and convictions would help. That they will go unpunished leaves it all to linger forever. Also, wingnuts respect convictions with their authoritarianism so maybe that would help them understand.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:37 amIf Bush would have permitted the military to arrest civilians inside the US, Cheney would have cited that as precedent to do that over and over again. The Unitied States of American could have become a military dictatorship in that moment. Thats all they would have to do is find a cooperative federal judge, have the court decision approving the action, and shipped the arrestees off to Gitmo. The US Supreme Court with the 5-4 “conservative” majority would not have stood in the way. In the final analysis, George W. Bush could have very well saved the US from becoming a dictatorship. Boy do I hate to say that!
July 25th, 2009 at 9:46 amlol I just discovered if you write curse words, your post is rejected. Needless to say, I’m angry.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:53 amHow can you “move on” if they’re not held to account? They barged into the White House illegally. Stole two elections. They put us through hell for nearly a decade. Each day for me, I woke up wondering what crazy fresh hell would be revealed, many times several times a day something would be revealed They violated all that I loved about my America that I once knew. And now they’re just going to skate off like it was nothing? Bush went through those 8 years and didn’t age a bit but the normal ammount. Cheney either. I think I did, though. I’ve lost close family relationships because of it because I will never talk to anyone again who ever voted for them. And that bothers me too and is never mentioned. Those who voted for him and especially twice act like what happened had nothing to do with them. Like, “Oh well, things happen and la la la and besides, it didn’t have anything to do with me.” Some are still defiant like the wingnuts. Nah, I’m never going to “get over it.”
July 25th, 2009 at 10:07 amDepends on the curse word. you can say “ass” or “shit”, or “cheney” but “d0uchebag” is out of bounds for some reason…
July 25th, 2009 at 10:08 amAnd poopypants, you can say poopypants all you want!
July 25th, 2009 at 10:09 amLevi the Dungbeetle says:
True, Levi. However, history shows us that Cheney did do whatever he wanted to do, and that he believed it was his right to do so. Had Bush not intervened here, Cheney certainly would have used the military in a U.S. town.
Had Bush not said no to Cheney, Scotter Libby would have received that presidential pardon.
The more I remember that administrations actions, the more I see the hand of Cheney in every disasterous act. Bush, like Reagan, was just a puppet. A dumb, stupid puppet doing the bidding of the neocon at every turn.
I’m sure that in Bush’s sober moments these days, if there are any, he’s wondering how Reagan became a hero while he was vilified. The only difference I can see is that Reagan was a better actor and his script writers originated the “I can’t recall” defense that the GNOP has used so successfully over the years.
PEACE
July 25th, 2009 at 10:14 amSpenser’s mom,
keep in mind that when reagan left his people were able to point to the fall of the evil empire as his legacy. bush is stuck with his wars, which can’t be spun as successes. If they were able to paint Iraq as a success then bush would be the noble gunslinger who rode into town and cleaned up then rode off into the sunset. That’s why they keep harping on ‘we kept you safe from another attack” so much, it’s all they have, even though it opens the question of why they allowed us to be attacked in the first place.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:21 amWho’s the d0uchebag who gave me a thumbs down?
July 25th, 2009 at 10:22 amA thumbs up to the d0uchebags who fixed my rating ;)
July 25th, 2009 at 10:26 amI’d bet almost anything that Cheney looks back at those Mayday parades the old Soviet Union had with longing and jealousy. He’d like nothing better than to be on a dais on Pennsylvania Avenue to watch an eight hour parade of soldiers, and nuclear missiles that turn and salute him. (the soldier, not the missiles) This is the America of Cheney’s dreams. A war machine, a big war machine the he wields.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:29 amHey cut it out!
July 25th, 2009 at 10:29 amBobwurst, the trolls like to come and vote down all the Progressives. It’s the only power they feel they have in their sad, angry, empty little lives.
I suspect that every “vote up” count is skewed by several lurking troll votes down, but it’s worth it to have the ability to collapse the hate speech here.
You’re thumbs up in my book!
PEACE
July 25th, 2009 at 10:33 amBobwurst, overall you seem to be doing ok. I helped keep you in the green. I’m with spencers mom, it’s worth it.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:35 amI doubt he’s looking back to the Soviet Union but to their one-time enemy along the Rhine. The man is now revealed as some kind of megalomaniac dictator-wannabe, but one who never had the guts to try to do it himself. He wanted to turn Bush into his sock puppet. I am amazed that Bush had the good sense to stand up to Cheney in this. Why didn’t W. dump him for VP in the second run. I wonder?
July 25th, 2009 at 10:44 amI wish TP would indicate the number of up votes and the number of down votes.
I do my best to keep the trolls in the negative…
July 25th, 2009 at 10:47 amThanks guys, I’m having a little fun with the ratings by the way. Just something to do before i go and patch the hole in my canoe…
July 25th, 2009 at 10:48 amHow did this fruitcake ever get to be VP?
Oh yeah that’s right, the right wing power structure anointed
July 25th, 2009 at 10:53 amBoy Genius Dumbya President and Cheney anointed himself candidate for Vice-President.
He did use his hit squads in the us ….
Paul Wellstone 2002…..
July 25th, 2009 at 11:01 amIt comes out one bit at a time. All points to Cheney. The ring leader of 911. This is not about politics, this is mental, homocidal derangement.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:11 amDick Cheney was the Republicans’ big mistake. It should be a rule of thumb from here on in that anybody who heads up a search committee and picks himself should be kept away from power, period.
I think the money guys looked at Cheney and made two bad evaluations: they looked at his Halliburton CEO-ship and thought he was a fellow plutocrat–and they thought he was smart.
He was not a plutocrat whose interests were in keeping the country moderately prosperous and keeping Republican privilege intact–he was a far-right loony who wanted to remake the American Republic and turn it into an empire. He may have been GHWB’s SecDef, but he fought the rest of the cabinet for the far right position, and he was tapped as Halliburton CEO because of that SecDefship and not because he was a businesman at all.
He was like Karl Rove in that all his supposed intelligence was simply having no scruples. He chose himself, flat-out refused to reveal hi s energy team, clamped down secrecy from day 1–and because people were used to folks playing by the rules, got away with it. Same as Karl Rove who dazzled people with the brilliance of flat-out lies and smears.
But Cheney was not smart. He wanted power, but never twigged to the fact that the powerful have to govern–and have to get stuff done. He was smart enough to lie usinto war–but not smart enough to rule Iraq. And he could assume the powers of a Roman Emperor–but did not realize that even Roman Emperors had to deal with natural disasters.
Roman history is full of men really expert at slashing their way to power but woefully inexpert at ruling. Because, after all, you don’t have to be all that smart to be ruthless.
And now he’s using the last remnant of Republican hegemony–the media–to keep his sorry arse out of jail.
This may surprise some people, but between George W Bush and dick Cheney, I think the stupider one is Cheney. W was just a wastrel, while Cheney thought he was a mastermind. And as Will Rogers once said, it’s not what you don’t know–it’s what you do know that ain’t so.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:38 am9/11 Inside job..please watch ;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739
ZEOR 9/11 was done by over 300 europeans. Scientist, engineers, military personel contributed to this documentory.
It was televised in Europe. This is why Europe didn’t buy the BUSH wars or the Bush presidency.
Please pass this video on to friends because America MSM will not show this documentory or even discuss this issue.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:40 amThere can only be one reason to send in military troops: To scare Americans. Just arresting them, as they finally did, wssn’t enough; Cheney wanted Shock and Awe, to show who runs this country. This traitor deserves to be tried and hung.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:57 amShayne says:
President Obama needs to remove the security detail from Cheney that we’re paying for…
July 25th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Cheney already has his own security detail anyway – Blackwater.
Maybe I’m just insanely paranoid, but at this point I could easily believe that Cheney is positioning himself as the authoritarian leader that the wingnuts will turn to to help oust Obama from office. Cheney’s got all of the powerful connections (energy, CIA, etc.) and, most importantly, his own military. He is not guided by the Constitution in any way, and he megalomaniacally believes that only he is correct in his views about how to protect the U.S. and subjugate the rest of the world. I really think that he is just biding his time and waiting for the crazies out there to lay the groundwork for his private military takeover.
As Rachel says, can somebody talk me down?
July 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pmpbeeg says:
Dick Cheney was the Republicans’ big mistake…….
This may surprise some people, but between George W Bush and dick Cheney, I think the stupider one is Cheney. W was just a wastrel, while Cheney thought he was a mastermind. And as Will Rogers once said, it’s not what you don’t know–it’s what you do know that ain’t so.
Bush deferred to Cheney in the areas of foreign policy and national security. That was one of the biggest mistakes that Bush made. This resulted in the Bush failures in foreign policy and ultimately Iraq. Bush continued to defer to Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld until it became obvious that Iraq was going from bad to worse. In the last two years of Bush’s administration, he put foreign policy in the hands of Rice who tried to repair all the damage Cheney created, but it was too late. I would speculate that Bush is ruminating about the failures of his administration and is blaming Cheney for a good portion of those failures, most notably Iraq.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pmWhat is so hard for me to get my mind around is, the very people who still support and defend and yawp on about how great the Bush administration was, also think of themselves as being in favor of limited government.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:27 pmAny objective analysis of what the Bush/Cheney government(most of which was with the look-the-other-way-Republican Congress’ approval) did for eight years puts to shame the idea of “limited government”.
What I think is most mind-boggling is that the two “leaders” who were at the top of the power chain had no qualms or reservations about using and sending our military anywhere they desired but didn’t have the balls to serve when it was their “turn” to do so.
And then they want to play G.I. Joe like our troops are action figure toys. Insufferable yellow-bellied chicken hawks.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:56 pmOnce again, Cheney demonstrated an eagerness to take an ideological dump on the Constitution in order to further a political agenda. You cannot preserve and protect our nation by violating the fundamental tenets upon which it was created.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pmCheney gets a $120,000 pension and an extended security detail from the same country he pillaged and used as his ideological playpen. And you’re paying for it.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:41 pmLevi the Dungbeetle says:
In all fairness to Cheney, wanting to do something illeagle is not a crime.
I respectfully disagree. For you and me, probably not. But it is illegal when you’ve taken, in good faith, an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States
July 25th, 2009 at 3:08 pmCheney gets a $120,000 pension and an extended security detail from the same country he pillaged and used as his ideological playpen. And you’re paying for it.
Ex-vice presidents don’t get the lifetime Secret Service protection that ex-presidents get, but did I hear correctly that Obama just extended Cheney’s Secret Service protection another six months? Now that is an expenditure of taxpayer money that I simply cannot support. If Dick Cheney is in so much danger that he requires Secret Service protection, then it’s his own fault. He should have just left office quietly and kept his mouth shut.
July 25th, 2009 at 3:15 pmRight on, Wayne. And why the hell is he collecting a pension, to put some change in his pocket? His secret-service protection, indeed, is only temporary. My question is, how many more 6-month extensions will he seek? Cheney is just the personification of the big-government republican who tells us we’re on our own while they pile on the government bennies.
That plaque-filled rump can go pay for his own damn security detail. He can live with the same fear he imposed on the public in order to ram thru his ideology.
The president should approve no further requests.
July 25th, 2009 at 3:58 pmCheney is going to require 24/7/365 professional protection for the rest of his life.
If wingnut Republicans are willing to kill Doctors for their religious beliefs, then there are probably progressives out there are crazy enough to want to kill Cheney.
It is inappropriate for the people to protect this war criminal. He can certainly pay for his own protection, or he can surrender himself to the Spanish authorities and they will be happy to provide for his protection until the day he dies.
July 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pmCheney can hire Blackwater (or whatever its new incarnation is), can’t he?
I want to see all these people who profited from the illegal wars stripped completely of their assets. I want that money sent to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. I want every vault they have searched for contraband. What are the odds that Cheney doesn’t have a treasure of two from Iraq in a safe somewhere?
I want to see these monsters destitute and friendless.
July 25th, 2009 at 5:21 pmScratch the skin of any super-rich man and you’ll find a hardcore Nazi underneath.
July 25th, 2009 at 5:26 pm9. WillowOrchid – don’t forget that in NOLA the US sent in armed mercenary troops (ala blackwater, etc.). So, in effect, it was already violating the strong line forbidding use of troops on our own citizenry.
What I don’t understand is
1) why did we even need to think of sending in troops to nab the Lackawanna 6 anyway. Don’t we have the FBI who is experienced in working under US Law (as opposed to soldiers whose training does not include the proper background for civil actions).
2) Why it is the reichwingers who form their clandestine occult operations but fear the dems are gonna be an MI5/Majestic 12/Illuminati/One World Govt.
July 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmI read a book on the worlds worst tyrants. Ganghis Khan didn’t even look as demonic as Cheney.
July 25th, 2009 at 5:40 pmtony and lido
1) Strange. Two names that one would think would have appeared in this article didn’t: former Attorney General John Ashcroft’s and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s. Strange. Very strange.
2) When this article is viewed in the context of the recent article about Bush repeatedly rebuffing Cheney’s request for a full pardon for Scooter Libby, then one has to wonder how many more of these “leaks” will arise that paint Bush in a positive light while shifting the blame to Cheney.
3) Per The Rooster comment, post 25, NY Times article: “On September 30, 2006, the Congress modified the Insurrection Act as part of the 2007 Defense Authorization Bill (repealed as of 2008). Section 1076 of the law changed Sec. 333 of the “Insurrection Act,” and widened the President’s ability to deploy troops within the United States to enforce the laws.”
So, a certain conservative Republican faction inside the Bush administration finally got their wish in 2006, getting the Republican-controlled Congress to pass a law saying that U.S. troops, on orders of the whoever is in the White House, could deploy inside the United States, shunting aside state and local law enforcers, and even the FBI, defying the vehement protest before this law was enacted in September 2006 by all fifty state governors, Republicans and Democrats alike.
The ultra-conservative Republican coup keeps rolling on and on. Why do I say “Republican coup”? Because as we learn more and more about what went on behind the scenes in the Bush/Cheney administration, it is quite apparent that a conservative coup was attempted against our democracy, a coup that apparently is still in progress.
Has the Insurrection Act been reinstated? Has Glass-Steagal been reinstated? Has FISA been returned to its 1978 state? Have investigations and prosecutions begun into the worst abuses of power during the Bush/Cheney years? Does this aberrant, traitorous “test the Constitution” mentality still pervade Washington D.C.?
Then this right-wing, conservative Republican and conservative DINO Democrat, coup is still in progress, a coup led by people intent upon turning our beloved democracy into a top-down conservative-controlled dictatorship of the few, by the few and for the few. Change we can believe in? Hardly!!!
But I do want to give President Obama credit where credit is due. He has tried somewhat to take on this treasonous conservative beast that is devouring our democracy And yet some of his top advisers continue to try to compromise, in the name of bipartisanship, with leaders of this right-wing coup….which is why I say the conservative coup is still in progress. No full-scale DOJ investigations? No special prosecutors? No grand juries? No subpoenas? No convictions of people responsible for this coup attempt? Then, the coup is STILL IN PROGRESS.
July 25th, 2009 at 6:09 pmThis man is truly EVIL!!!!
July 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmUndoubtedly, he will dispatch his daughter to speak on his behalf again. She’ll deny that this plan was ever discussed, … or if it was, her father was not involved, … or if he was, it’s because Buffalo is actually located in Canada and is therefore fair game for military involvement in a civilian arrest.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pmThe Shadow says:
This man is truly EVIL!!!!
Does that make his daughter evil’s spawn?
July 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pmDick Cheney is not only EVIL, but he a COWARD!!!!!. Remember Viet Nam Dickey? You weren’t ready to deploy there were you, coward?
July 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pm