Bachmann blocks resolution declaring Hawaii to be Obama’s birthplace.
Bachmann blocks resolution declaring Hawaii to be Obama’s birthplace.
Today, Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) introduced a resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood. The resolution also proclaims the state as President Obama’s birthplace, a point the Plum Line’s Greg Sargent noted may “put House GOPers who are flirting with birtherism in a jam.” This afternoon on the House floor, Abercrombie spoke of his measure and specifically noted that Obama had been born in Hawaii. “It’s also going to be the birthday in a week or so of President Obama, born in Kapiolani hospital just down the road from where I lived,” he said. Just as the presiding chair of the House, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), was about to declare the resolution passed by voice vote, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) stood and objected:
BACHMANN: Mr. Speaker? I object to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present and make a point of order that a quorum is not present. [...]
REP. ELIJAH CUMMINGS (D-MD): Further procedings on this motion will be postponed.
Watch it:
H. Res. 593, a resolution “recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State,” contains this provision: “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii”
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Bachmann blocks resolution declaring Hawaii to be Obama’s birthplace.
– - Well of course she did. Some things you suspect, some things you guess at and some things you just know.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:51 pmBachmann is a certifiable lunatic. She should not be allowed to open her mouth.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pmWIN!!!!
July 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pmAww the batcrap crazy woman is barking out, this done surprise many i bet.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pmI want to see Bachman and Palin in a cage match for the Re-nut-ican nomination.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pmIs there one democrat in the house with at least one ball left?
How are republicans deciding what gets voted on and what doesn’t, when the democrats are in charge?
July 27th, 2009 at 5:55 pmYou mean Bachmann helped give this resolution ANOTHER day of life? She IS stupid.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:55 pmI think it’s time for Michele Bachmann to prove that she’s an American citizen, because she acts like Osama bin Laden.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:56 pmCrazy Shelly is in panic mode. What’s she gonna do once a quorum is assembled?
July 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmbirtherism?
Call it what it is crybabyism.
By all means though let the repugs embrace this madness they’ll just hurt their party further.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmI don’t pretend to be an expert on House procedure but didn’t idiot girl Bachmann just put her fellow party members’ cajones back into the vise? A voice vote wouldn’t put the Republics in the position of individually voting yes or no. Does she think this issue plays well for her side?
July 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmIf a woman who is a U.S. citizen happens to be in another country and gives birth, isnt that baby automaticly a citizen of the U.S.?
July 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Where was McCain born? Andrew Jackson?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pmNot only that, PLC, but she screwed up a chance for the G-NO-P to let this resolution slip by with minimal damage.
Now she’s insisting that a quorum be present to vote on it, which means more members of Congress will necessarily be present to cast their votes one way or the other.
I’ll bet there are more than a few otherwise-occupied birther-friendly Congressmen who aren’t too happy with Crazy Shelly right now.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:03 pmBachmann is stupid–can’t knock a bill with a simple point of order, it just postpones the bill until there is a quorum.
Funny she knows how to read Robert’s Rules?!
Who’d a thunk that?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmI think you’re absolutely right, paleolib.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmAwwww, who’s the chickenshit with the down votes? :-D
Don’t be hatin’!
July 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian says:
You mean Bachmann helped give this resolution ANOTHER day of life? She IS stupid.
July 27th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
That’s why it’s such a big win. I love it! :D
July 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pmForgive my ignorance but what is a quorum and what does this mean? Will the resolution come back up later or will this stall/kill it?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pmI agree that Bachmann is totally batshit crazy, but in this case there is a valid parliamentary procedure involved. If a quorom is required to conduct business and there wasn’t she was correct — like it or not.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pmYes thinking theres lots of those repugs who are looking at this batcrap crazy lady. As they know now that they will have to come to the floor and vote on this.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pmSo I am glad she put her follow repugs in a great postion.
22. Shades — a quorum is the number of people required by charter to conduct business as usual. For example, if a charter states that 30 of 50 members are required to conduct official business, and only 25 were present, they could not conduct “business as usual.” Hope that helps.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pmA lack of a quorum indicates too many legislators are still at lunch, pretending to shop for pencils, or otherwise avoiding being present to fulfill their elected office.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pmFrom the makers of the mouse trap– WACKO TRAP ™!
July 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pmI’m not a troll but I’m capping this one since the Bachmann’s actions is pure garbage I bet she has a high for doing this what a nut case:
BACHMANN IS A STUPID SELFISH RACIST KUNT!!
Quorum – (1) The minimal number of officers and members of a committee or organization, usually a majority, who must be present for valid transaction of business.
(2)A select group.
So what select group is Bachmann talking about?
I just called her office and left a nasty message.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pmOT but needs to be said. Just read that a Senate democratic group are edging towards a compromise on a health care bill that excludes a public option.
Everyone needs to contact their Senators that this won’t fly with Democratic voters. This is the start of the big sellout.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:16 pmZooey says:
Awwww, who’s the chickenshit with the down votes? :-D
Don’t be hatin’!
-4 + 1
-4 dirty sockpuppets obsessed with Zooey for the price of one!
July 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pmAs makete has rightly pointed out, the dumb doorknobs on the reich fail to realize that a child born to a U.S. citizen is automatically a U.S. citizen. United States Customs and Immigration Services state this clearly here. Sheesh!
July 27th, 2009 at 6:20 pmAre the righties now going to use in their talking points : “The Democratic led house even refused to recognized Hawaii as being the birthplace of Obama.”
July 27th, 2009 at 6:20 pmHave any of the ‘birthers’ been able to show where the President was born if he wasn’t born in Hawaii?
I mean, he was born someplace, and the evidence in hand points convincingly to Hawaii. That’s because he was born IN HAWAII. If he was born anywhere else there would be some evidence of it. Something, somewhere. So if the birther nut jobs really think he was not born in Hawaii, go find the proof you claim is lacking in the the Hawaiian documents.
Something tells me most of the birthers also think man didn’t land on the moon, that humans have no involvement in global climate change, and the earth is probably really flat.
Why do these people still have access to microphones?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:21 pmDoes Bachmann want a roll call vote? This is nuts.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:22 pmYou know, right-wingers, with your toughened insistence on ignoring the birth certificate of the President of the United States, at just 21% of percent of the electorate you will never see an election certificate again.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pmWow, I didn’t think Bachmann could count past ten.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pmReallyaracistbirthermoron says: PeeBO needs to show the Birth Certificate or STFU!!!
He is hiding his non-American birth!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Alerady done jackanus. If he did not submit his birth certificate how come it was found to be legitimate by the State Department after they analyzed it moron?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
July 27th, 2009 at 6:27 pmangels81 says:
OT but needs to be said. Just read that a Senate democratic group are edging towards a compromise on a health care bill that excludes a public option.
Everyone needs to contact their Senators that this won’t fly with Democratic voters. This is the start of the big sellout.
All senators need to know:
LOSE PUBLIC HEALTH OPTION AND LOSE OUR VOTE.
from: billpressshow.com
Health Care: The Public Plan Option
These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
1. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
2. Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)
3. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
4. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
5. Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
6. Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
7. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
8. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
9. Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
11. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
12. Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
13. Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
14. Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)
These names are reported by The Hill here and here
Update: Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she supports a public option.
Update: Senator Jeff Binghaman (D-NM) says he supports a public option.
You can also contact the White House and voice your opinion
July 27th, 2009 at 6:28 pmComments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
Bachmann is so nuts. Why would she want the rest of her fellow republicans there? If I were a democrat I’d want them there, I wouldn’t even put it up for a vote until most were present.
Oh, Zooey, I voted you up too.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:29 pmnoseeum says:
A lack of a quorum indicates too many legislators are still at lunch…
Did Boehner throw another party?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pmKeep up with the lies realitychump. The democrats thank you for guaranteeing many electoral victories for many decades to come. You teabagistan terrorists will never see public office again.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pmThanks, McWars & Rich H.
I must be having some effect. :-D
July 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pmHave any of the ‘birthers’ been able to show where the President was born if he wasn’t born in Hawaii?
I mean, he was born someplace, and the evidence in hand points convincingly to Hawaii. That’s because he was born IN HAWAII.
Yup, and even he was born outside the United States, the same paper trail entitling him to be a U.S. citizen would exist because his mother was a U.S. citizen.
Sen. McCain would know.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:33 pm#38 — Only when she uses all of her fingers and toes. When she reaches 20, she has to pick up a stone and then start all over. (She picks up one stone for every increment of 20 she reaches — helps her keep track of her running tally).
July 27th, 2009 at 6:33 pmLefty liberal @30, I thought it was either “yay” or “nay” when they vote.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:35 pmHelen Rainier says
July 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
I agree that Bachmann is totally batshit crazy, but in this case there is a valid parliamentary procedure involved. If a quorom is required to conduct business and there wasn’t she was correct — like it or not.
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It’s true that Bachmann was correct on her point of valid procedure. But by speaking up, she destroyed the one shot the birthers had of letting this slide by without having to make a yea or nay commitment on the issue.
Bachmann is either as dumb as a box of hair or was gambling that this would kill the resolution (which also makes her as dumb as a box of hair). The resolution will return — with a quorum this time — and the supporters will no doubt request a roll call vote.
She really did us all a favor. Either the Republicans trying to appease the birthers in their districts will vote yea on the resolution (putting the issue to rest), or will vote nay — creating an official record of them being a whack job.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pmHelen Rainier says:
#38 — Only when she uses all of her fingers and toes. When she reaches 20, she has to pick up a stone and then start all over. (She picks up one stone for every increment of 20 she reaches — helps her keep track of her running tally).
and I was thinking she would have an adult help her with the big numbers.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pmRealityCheck needs to show how a “real” birth certificate from
July 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pmHawaii looks like, or STFU!
whirlaway says:
RealityCheck needs to show how a “real” birth certificate from
Hawaii looks like, or STFU!
Birthers don’t have birth certificates, nor know what one is because they weren’t born, they were shat out.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pmLefty Liberal says:
Intrepid says:
Lefty liberal @30, I thought it was either “yay” or “nay” when they vote.
I was quoting what was on Wikipedia. I do believe they use the term “nay” for no.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pmBatshit hit the fan again!
So Shelley, when are you introducing that bill that demands an investigation into the “UnAmerican” members of Congress? ‘Cause we can always tack this amendment onto your bill.
PEACE
July 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pmRealityPunk. I’m waiting for your reply to 39.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pmGood ol’ Hawaii, just another imperial land grab by the American Empire.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:50 pm#48 — all to the benefit of the Democrats. Whether she did for reasons of a parliamentary technicality or because she is batshit crazy, still puts them in a hell of a bind. I don’t care — whatever it takes to expose these bastards for the bastards they are.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:50 pmI hope the people of Minnesota pause and reflect what they have done by electing this shrill harpie as their represenative. Bachman had a good challenger in 2008 and the people voted for this crazy woman anyway. Dear Lord, thank God I live in a blue district. This is mind boggling.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:51 pmWay to keep this resolution alive and kicking Bachmann. You’re doing a grand service to the Republican Party……….by helping them lose many elections to come…. Good job exposing yourself as a birther. You played right into their hands. Please join the Democrat Party. They need more people like you. The Democrat Party thanks you.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:51 pm#49 — Oh she hasn’t gotten to the big numbers yet. The Muppets are all booked for a while and don’t have time to teach her.
Besides, Elmo said under no circumstances would he work with someone that mentally unbalanced without a full security detail.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:52 pmLooks like RealityPunk ran away from this thread but not to worry. He’ll go to another thread where he will get another asskicking.
Apparently he has no defense for his weak argument. Maybe he is calling Rushbo via sheep phone for more “talking points”.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm“Good ol’ Hawaii, just another imperial land grab by the American Empire.”
Just like all the 49 others and a territory or two.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pmBirthers are trying to fight Obama by getting him disqualified for a technicality.
That’s sad. The more stake they put into the effort, the more obvious, they have nothing else.
Why not battle the President on ideas?
If your ideas aren’t strong enough, reconsider them and come up with ideas that are.
July 27th, 2009 at 6:57 pmWOW, good post Backup.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:05 pmbackup says: “Why not battle the President on ideas?”
They don’t have any.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:13 pmEvery thread about moron Bachmann brings the inevitable “hey people of Minnesota, blah, blah, blah…” She represents ONE district in the state. 7/8ths of the population of the state has never cast a vote for this nimrod. Even in her own district nearly half the people hate her. Every state has their share of moronic right wingers.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:15 pmBachman. Of course. Who else?
She might be the only one who doesn’t fear being taken for a lunatic. That’s because 1) she is and 2) she has no self-awareness.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:18 pmWhy not battle the President on ideas?
Because they are incapable of it? They haven’t had an idea that didn’t originate on K street.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:20 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
backup says:
Birthers are trying to fight Obama by getting him disqualified for a technicality.
This is not a technicality. It doesn’t even amount to that much.
It’s right out of fantasy land; it’s conspiracy theory stuff, with a heavy dose of willful ignorance, and sprinkled with bigotry.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:22 pmbackup says:
Birthers are trying to fight Obama by getting him disqualified for a technicality.
That’s sad. The more stake they put into the effort, the more obvious, they have nothing else.
Why not battle the President on ideas?
If your ideas aren’t strong enough, reconsider them and come up with ideas that are.
You’re so cute when you’re naive, backup.
The GOP has lots of ideas. Lower taxes. Um, Lower Taxes. Run and hide run and hide! The commies are coming. Do nothing that harms or might harm and might potentially sometime in the next generation harm corporations and bidness men.
Oh, and white is right.
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Have you seen any of their ideas?
Frankly, between their ideas and this birther jazz, I think the birther thing might be their best bet.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pmThanks to everybody for the explanation. I’ve got it now.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pmWHHHHHAAAAAAAATTTTTT!?! Bachmann lunacy to the tenth power. My GAWD! JEEZIS!
July 27th, 2009 at 7:28 pmRealityPunk shows again what a useless punkass troll he is. Ignorant, brainwashed and pathetic. I see this Pbo is the newest Limborg programming as a couple of the brainwashed trolls have been using it. How pitiful it must be to KNOW you are so stupid that you can only regurgitate what you are told to think by a fat drug addicted liar. To KNOW you are so stupid that thinking for yourself is more than a punk like Reality punk could ever hope for. RealityPunk is a waste of precious oxygen that a lifeform capable of higher brain function could be using. What a pustlent seeping carbunkle on the butt of humankind RealityPUNK is
July 27th, 2009 at 7:41 pmThis is so un(phucking)believable!! I bet Bachmann the “Kunt” has just as nutty, a reason, why she stood and objected for not recognizing Hawaii as a state of the Union and now has to prove Obama is not a ‘natural’ born US citizen? Good for her, lets just see how many Repugs come to her aid, talk about political suicide.
I wish someone would go to her district and start asking her constituents do they share the same nonsense? Everything this “floozie” says indicates “abnormality” thought processes seriously, man. She’s a “downer”:( for sure.
Did anyone catch the low monotone she used to voice her objection? It was not done in her usually ‘pompous’ delivery. Did she forget to take her “bupropion” again this morning? That’s a sign of “guilt.”
Bachmann the “un(kunt)ry American, strikes again.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pmYay for my home state of Minnesota. Crazy Shelly is still the Queen.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pmFrom Salon….
On Monday afternoon, it seemed that one House Republican, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, had indeed moved to support the Birthers, as liberal blog Think Progress reported that she blocked the bill.
This time, though, Bachmann was being criticized unfairly. She did indeed block a vote on the resolution, noting the absence of a quorum, but that move wasn’t about Abercrombie’s resolution specifically. She was just playing her part. The House had already decided to postpone the votes on all of the resolutions being considered under a suspension of the rules until Monday evening, and as such, Bachmann was noting the absence of a quorum for several other non-controversial pieces of legislation so those votes, too, could be postponed until the scheduled time.
In fact, as a spokeswoman for Bachmann told Salon — and C-SPAN video of the congresswoman’s remarks on the House floor confirmed — Bachmann supports the resolution.
After the postponement, on Monday evening the resolution passed — unanimously. Bachmann was one of the “yea” votes.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:44 pmNo, B-kup. They have no wish to “disqualify him on a technicality”. There is no disqualifying technicality. They want some amped up Christian, Conservative, American to blow our President away.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Thank you, wondergirl. Crazy Shelly is still a moron though.
July 27th, 2009 at 7:54 pmImmigration2008DotCom,
And you think I or anyone else on TP will take your word for anything?
July 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pmThe right is so good at distractions. Why can’t one, just one, democrat make a big deal about John Ensign? Or for that matter Michelle Bachmann? They all just go along to get along. You know, when you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:00 pmthink we need an update, TP…
the resolution passed…
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727068/House+approves+Abercrombie+resolution+commemorating+Hawaii+statehood
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll647.xml
why so many non-votes?
35 dems, 20 repugs…
and backman voted yes…
July 27th, 2009 at 8:07 pmI wish the Democrats would too questioneverything but most of the Democrats are too busy WORKING! Unlike crazy spacecadet Bachnmann and the rest of the Repnuttycan Party!
July 27th, 2009 at 8:08 pmI don’t get the objection to it, but I think Obama supporters are missing an opportunity.
Instead of defending Obama against the allegations (which are ridiculous), the issue should be turned back on the birthers.
The question should be: Even if your ridiculous allegations were true (which they’re not), is that best you have to offer? Instead of substantive differences on issues, you want to focus your efforts trying to overturn the will of the people, relying on trumped up allegations of a misqualification, instead of advocating your own positions? Is that really all you have?
July 27th, 2009 at 8:11 pmTranslation:
July 27th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
katy says:
think we need an update, TP…
the resolution passed…
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090727/BREAKING01/90727068/House+approves+Abercrombie+resolution+commemorating+Hawaii+statehood
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll647.xml
why so many non-votes?
35 dems, 20 repugs…
and backman voted yes…
HaHaHaHa!!!!! CHECKMATE BIRTHERS!!! START SQUIRMING LOSERS!!!
July 27th, 2009 at 8:21 pmWake up, TP!
The “hold” was just procedural and the resolution went to a vote which it passed unanimously. This should shut up all but the nuttiest of the wingnuts. And I can’t even imagine Crazy Shelly giving credence to birthers now that she voted for the resolution to proclaim Hawaii the birthplace of President Obama.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pmbackup, sweetie, this IS what they have to offer…
it’s what they do… it’s called distraction…
rile the base… keep ‘em stoopid…
you know…
July 27th, 2009 at 8:27 pmbut – anyone, please answer -
what’s with all the ‘not voting’… where were they?
July 27th, 2009 at 8:29 pmBatshit Bachman strikes again.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:36 pmAlright – the resolution has passed the House! C’mon birthers let it go – just turn it over to Jeezus! Let it go or get some mental therapy!
July 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pmwhere are they? Hopefully doing something more productive than the cavalcade of idiocy which is the whole topic.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pmThese nutty Birthers are not givin up their futile attempts .
Once a Birther one stays a Birther until he dies, just like this nutty Bachmann.
Not even ‘Hawaii Five-O Steve McCgarrett’ can convince this woman that Obama was born in Hawaii.!
July 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pmtext of the resolution:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.RES.593:
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more dems than repugs DID NOT VOTE on that resolution…
why?
what reason(s) for not voting?
July 27th, 2009 at 8:47 pmOh, you just gotta love TPers. The highest rated post (paleolib) received a net 24 positive recommends. RealityCheck received a net total of… drum roll, please… negative 32!
Even when we don’t all agree about what we do like, there seems to be little question about what we will not tolerate.
PEACE
July 27th, 2009 at 8:55 pmjohnnycee
I get it since YOU are stupid, you like to see REALLY stupid people like Bachman do well. Isnt that precious
July 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pmTo not be lowered to voting on the inane perhaps.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:03 pmkaty says:
what reason(s) for not voting?
I’m just guessing but, there are lots of possible reasons. There were committee meetings that may have gone long. There was a “closed door” meeting about health care that may have resulted in some private arm twisting meetings. They may have been delayed getting back from the weekend. It may be a cowardly type of effed up protest. Swine flu?
I don’t think we should read too much into it. Though that little clause may become important it’s possible that the absentees just didn’t think it was a pressing matter. I did note that there were no “present” votes or abstentions. Just the 378 Yays.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:05 pmBachmann blocks resolution declaring Hawaii to be Obama’s birthplace.
Why don’t people who deserve Cancer ever get Cancer?
July 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pmI’ve started a new tradition … every time I hear Michele Bachmann’s name, I’m making a donation to El Tinklenberg’s campaign. Everyone one of us has to do our part … and I’m going to try to help get Bachmann voted out of office.
http://www.tinklenberg2010.com/
July 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pmdb, the Turkish porn spammer is faring better than RealityCheck on the voting front.
PEACE
July 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pmBachmann didn’t block anything. She used a standard House procedure that lets members postpone and “stack” votes so they can take care of a bunch of them in a series. And in the end, she voted in favor of the resolution.
As for the Dems, they had a health care caucus meeting that ran from 4 to 9 p.m. A lot of members probably skipped votes for it, because all of the measures on tap tonight were expected to pass by wide margins anyway.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pmNotice how none of the right wing loonies voted ‘nay’ on this resolution? Proves how wimpy they truly are! Gutless cowards to the end! Bachmann voting ‘aye’ is a sign she actually stepped outside her Satan-shell and saw how pitiful she acted earlier! Unfreakingbelievable how ridiculous she and the rest of the right wing of this country is. She’s still batsh*t crazy despite her vote tonight.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pmthanks pete!
i’m not up on all the procedures, so wondered why so many not voting…
i also wanted to ask what was meant by ‘marking up’ and some other terms a while back, but didn’t want to admit the ignorance…
there – i just did… so… what is ‘mark up’?
July 27th, 2009 at 9:28 pmanyone?
Spencer’s mom:
July 27th, 2009 at 9:31 pmWell who doesn’t like a Turkish Delight now and then…
another question:
if this mccotter idiot tries to bring up his resolution to get the president to apologize to police, can he be turned down?
can pelosi say, in effect, no, we’re not bringing it up because it’s unnecessary and time wasting…?
or does EVERYthing have to go to a vote?
July 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pmBachmann should be required to submit proof that she was born on Earth.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:53 pmNow that it’s been shown without a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii, will the birthers join the Hawaiian Nationalists who claim Hawaii isn’t legally a state?
July 27th, 2009 at 9:55 pmjust remembered to look for this, heard about earlier on RANDI RHODES:
Health Care Not Healthy For Ratings
By Liz Cox Barrett
Assorted people in journalism explain to Politico’s Michael Calderone that health care reportage, in addition to being a challenge for reporters, does not hold people’s attention.
http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/health_care_not_healthy_for_ra.php
(the first, most respectful link i found on the search)
July 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pmHow did Bachmann become such an evil, hateful person?
July 28th, 2009 at 3:34 amI havn’t stopped laughing about this birthing thing since it started. It was bound to happen. When we saw and heard that 70 year old woman tell John at the McCain ralley last year, “He,he’s a a , he’s an ‘ARAB!”, I knew we were gonna be hearing a lot more of their delusional paranoia. And the republicans deserve every bit of it. They’ve been courting the ignorant and biggoted masses for decades(because there just weren’t enough rich old white men). Now, they make up the majority of the republicans base. They’re not just the fringe groups anymore—they ARE the Republican party! OH!HA,Ha,ha,ha,ha. (My sides are spliting lately).
Know what I do for entertainment sometimes? I go to some of those right wing conservitive news websites and listen to the posters work eachother into a frenzy. “Obama’s going to take away our guns; we need to stock-up.” “Oh hell yes”, I tell em,”All the sporting goods stores in my area are running out of ammo, mostly because of the new tax that’s gonna be on ALL ammo starting 1 Jan 2010—fella at Wal-mart told me about it–200%!”. They deserve all the fear they’ve got. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of loosers!
July 28th, 2009 at 4:53 amHey, what happened to my comment?
July 28th, 2009 at 5:42 amI was saying that Mr Obama is a classy gent, not paying the slightest attention to this absurd and desperate frenzy in the dying repugnicans.
July 28th, 2009 at 5:43 amI would like the roll call vote just to get the names of who is on what side. So I know what button to push next election.
July 28th, 2009 at 5:47 am“Yea” is the correct word for an affirmative vote. I believe it comes from “Olde English.” Whereas “yay” is what a kids of all ages say when they get stuff they want.
July 28th, 2009 at 7:46 amShe makes Palin look like Lincoln.
July 28th, 2009 at 8:30 amHey Bachmann, Turner called. He wants to go back into Overdrive
July 28th, 2009 at 8:32 amFirst I would like to say why are they (Republicans and Democrats) wasting time and tax payers money on some stupid shit like this. He would not have been able to run for president had he not been a citizen of the US.
Further how many of the founding fathers were born on US soil? It only matters because he is BLACK. So we haven’t come far in this country, when so – called leaders (Republicans) are seeking any b___s__t to take people away from the real issues that matter. This country is in a crisis, people out of work, states without budgets, banks needing bailouts……come on people get real. Also how many if any, and I personally don’t know of others in politics who were born in other countries whether they be military bases, or their American mothers were on vacation in another country or living there when they were born. Because their mothers are citizens then they are considered American. So, I ask the question is it different because his father was Kenyan. Are all of our elected officials white, do some have Italian, Polish, Jewish,English etc. mothers…..some do, many do…..many who claim to be white are of Irish, Italian, Polish, Scottish, English,Jewish etc. background……so does this not make them American. If you are going to use birterism, then many of the birthers need to shut the F__K up…..since you cannot trace your birthright to the US either, if we want to go back to and scrutinize your heritage.
Remember, at some point in American History you were a victim of Prejudice, yep I used the ugly word. That’s the problem many do not even know their early experience in America. Go back to school and really study the many ugly truths about America. Prejudice was against the Jews, Polish, Italians and many others as your ancestors landed on this shore, and you have forgotten about it and now perpetuate it and pass it along to your children…..shame, shame, shame on you.
Leave it alone, There is a birth certificate and it states he was born in Hawaii and it is a state. It you want to say it is not a state and was a territory when he was born, then why can Puerto Ricans vote in an election, since it is still a territory? And if you ask me it is HIGH time it should become a state of the US. The age of territories is over or should be.
Being paid by my hard earned tax dollars, I say stick to real issues. Stop the B_______T
July 28th, 2009 at 8:32 amThe natural-born provision of Article II specifically exempts anyone who had full citizenship at the time the constitution was ratified regardless of their place of birth. Of course anybody who could still qualify under that exemption would have to be a vampire, zombie, ghoul or other form of undead…in other words, a Republican.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:01 amThe people who voted for BHO forget that 46% of people didn’t. There are a lot of concerns about this guy, especially the 5 years he spent in Indonesia, and his less than desirable family background. His entire life is marked by anti-establishment associations and radical black philosophy.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:28 amIsn’t it wonderful that everyting is so perfect in the world that these people have nothing better to do with their time.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:54 amEvery day it’s something with these right wingers. All I can say is, it’s good to be on the side that represents sanity.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:24 ammakete says:
If a woman who is a U.S. citizen happens to be in another country and gives birth, isnt that baby automaticly a citizen of the U.S.?
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Answer:
No. Your baby is a citizen of the SOIL on which it was born. If you are a citizen of the US and you have your baby in France, then your baby is automatically a dual citizen of the US (because parent(s) are US citizens) and of France (because child was born on French SOIL).
And as far as the military goes, any military base, in ANY country, is considered US SOIL. So if a child is born to military personnel (McCain’s parents), on a military base in ANY country, the child is automatically considered a US citizen.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:37 amShe’s no lunatic. She’s the GOP’s point person for certain issues, and all that she says is considered and deliberate. It’s part of a GOP strategy to get various talking points out there from various sources.
Wake up, folks. They want you thinking that she’s batty, but her assignment is base retention.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:30 amI have total hatred for this cheshire cat of a woman. She goes on talk shows (e.g.; Larry King) and outright lies to the public. He told her she couldn’t do that on HIS show. Nevertheless, she persists. The people of MN better wake up and get rid of her. Like Palin, she’s a narcissist. She misuses power as do most elevated right-wingers who have nothing positive to contribute to society.
July 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pmlucretia says:
He would not have been able to run for president had he not been a citizen of the US.
My reply:
Not true. Those involved in the vetting process admitted that they did not ask for birth certificate.
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lucretia says:
It only matters because he is BLACK.
My reply:
There you liberals go again making this about race. EVERY time race is injected into the conversation, it is by the LIBERALS or DEMS, NOT the Conservatives or Republicans. It is very convenient to bring up race when you are losing an argument.
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lucretia says:
Also how many if any, and I personally don’t know of others in politics who were born in other countries whether they be military bases, or their American mothers were on vacation in another country or living there when they were born. Because their mothers are citizens then they are considered American. So, I ask the question is it different because his father was Kenyan. Are all of our elected officials white, do some have Italian, Polish, Jewish,English etc. mothers…..some do, many do…..many who claim to be white are of Irish, Italian, Polish, Scottish, English,Jewish etc. background……so does this not make them American. If you are going to use birterism, then many of the birthers need to shut the F__K up…..since you cannot trace your birthright to the US either, if we want to go back to and scrutinize your heritage.
My reply:
Your baby is a citizen of the SOIL on which it was born. If you are a citizen of the US and you have your baby in France, then your baby is automatically a dual citizen of the US (because parent(s) are US citizens) and of France (because child was born on French SOIL). And under the Constitution of the United States, dual citizenship is not acceptable to be President of the united States.
And as far as the military goes, any military base, in ANY country, is considered US SOIL. So if a child is born to military personnel (McCain’s parents), on a military base in ANY country, the child is automatically considered a US citizen.
So your long-winded ETHNIC rant is insane. CITIZENSHIP AND ETHNICITY are two VERY different things! OF COURSE WE ARE ALL OF A DIFFERENT ETHNICITY (Italian, Irish, etc.), and, if we were born in the US we are US CITIZENS. Remember, CITIZENSHIP AND ETHNICITY are two VERY different things!
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lucretia says:
Remember, at some point in American History you were a victim of Prejudice, yep I used the ugly word. That’s the problem many do not even know their early experience in America. Go back to school and really study the many ugly truths about America. Prejudice was against the Jews, Polish, Italians and many others as your ancestors landed on this shore, and you have forgotten about it and now perpetuate it and pass it along to your children…..shame, shame, shame on you.
My reply:
Yes, we were all subject to prejudice at some time in our lives, but even your Chosen One (BHO), during his campaign, said that we should move past prejudice, but the LIBERALS and DEMS can’t and won’t move past it – they bring it up every time they are losing an argument!
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lucretia says:
There is a birth certificate and it states he was born in Hawaii and it is a state. It you want to say it is not a state and was a territory when he was born, then why can Puerto Ricans vote in an election, since it is still a territory?
My reply:
The argument has nothing to do with statehood. On the web, yes, there is a SHORT FORM Certificate of Live Birth for BHO, which you or I could get today, stating that we were born in whatever state we wanted it to say! The SHORT FORM only includes baby and parents names,sex of baby, date and time of birth, city and state of birth. The LONG FORM Certificate includes baby and parents names, sex of baby, race of baby and parents, mother’s residence, mother’s birthplace, mother’s maiden name, mother’s age, mother’s occupation, father’s residence, father’s birthplace, father’s age, father’s occupation and, most importantly, THE ATTENDING PHYSICIAN’S NAME AND SIGNATURE.
Now, I truly do not understand why people are so bent out of shape about asking OUR PRESIDENT to present his LONG FORM, original birth certificate.
I think that you will agree that the Office of the President of the United States of America is the MOST IMPORTANT JOB ON THE PLANET, SO WHAT HARM IS THERE IN ASKING FOR HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE????!?!?!?? Seriously?!? The White House and obama supporters get OVERLY DEFENSIVE when this issue is brought up – WHY??? Their/your HYPER-DEFENSIVENESS makes it appear as though there is something to hide!! What EXACTLY is wrong with asking this man to produce this document?? ALL of our other President’s HAD to produce this document!! WHY NOT OBAMA?!?!?
Why should every other President have had to produce this document, but not obama?
If there is nothing to hide, produce the document and shut everybody up!
July 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pmSashi says:
Like Palin, she’s a narcissist.
My reply:
There is no bigger narcissist on the planet than the Chosen One!!
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Sashi says:
She misuses power
My reply:
Don’t even get me started on misuse of power!!! Again, I defer to the Chosen One, as that is all he has done since he took the oath of office!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pmLastly, I would like to add that this is the MOST HATEFUL bunch of bloggers I have seen in a very long time!!!
I hope that’s working for ya. Adios.
July 28th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI don’t understand. In order to change someone’s position or mind, a civil approach always wins over vitriolic comments. The lady is a citizen of our country and deserves to be treated as one, even in language and comments … just like you people. She is exercising her legislative right that her voters gave her … irregardless of your personal opinion. Discuss all you want, but keep your snide remarks to yourself. You may succeed in changing some of the other sides positions. As my grandmother said, “When you point a finger at someone, there are 3 more fingers pointing back at you.”
July 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pmI was born in NY in 1959, and I have my original long-form birth certificate. That’s the one people want to see, not the 2007 re-issue.. You may slander them, and declare the request unreasonable, but the fact that Hawaii has not published it is, IMO, what keeps this fire burning.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pmDoes anyone else think Michele Bachmann is actually Glenn Beck in drag? Just curious.
BTW, I don’t have my original birth certificate, but I do have a re-issue, and I don’t even have copies of my birth announcement published in the papers 42.5 years ago…
… and I work for the government. You’d all better be wary…
(P.S. – Yes, I know you don’t need to be native born to work for the government)
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This is standard house procedure. Bachmann voted for the resolution when it came up for the vote, geniuses. This is every day, normal House procedure. Bachmann was managing the floor for the minority and in normal house procedure on votes that are likely to pass with wide majorities, objected so that the vote would be moved to the evening and everyone could get their name associated with a popular vote rather than have an hands only vote from a nearly empty chamber.
Get a life and get real. Either the person who wrote this is ignorant of how the House of Representatives works or is willfully misconstruing the facts. Either sucks for you if this is where you come to be told how to think.
July 30th, 2009 at 11:06 pm