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Anti-health care protesters hang freshman Democrat in effigy.

A group called “Patients First,” a project of the lobbyist-funded Americans for Prosperity, has been going around the country and hosting tea parties in opposition to “government-run health care.” Last week, they held a symposium in Salisbury, MD, and warned about the dangers of “socialized” medicine. Yesterday, some individuals decided to protest outside Democratic Rep. Frank Kratovil’s office, even though he hasn’t yet come out in favor of a public option. Protesters even hung up Kratovil in effigy:

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(HT: Dave Weigel)



135 Responses to “Anti-health care protesters hang freshman Democrat in effigy.”

  1. Leftside Annie says:

    Stay classy, Pukes. You never disappoint.


  2. P.D. says:

    Real Classy. Who’s the Bozo holding the effigy? I think he is in the same league as ‘Crazy Eileen’


  3. smidget says:

    This shouldn’t be surprising.

    They are too dumb to support healthcare reform, why would they be intelligent enough to make sure they are hanging in effigy someone who has actually made statements that they support it.

    Teabaggers, and their ilk (like these losers), are notoriously stupid. They don’t even realize that they are, again, protesting against their own self-interest.


  4. texasrick says:

    There apparently is no end to the ignorance of these morons. The President reminded us today that they said the same thing when Medicare was proposed forty years ago. They called it government controlled socialism back then also. Try and take away someone’s Medicare today and you will have a fight on your hands.

    How quickly they forget…


  5. smidget says:

    Oh yeah, and it sucks that they are doing any kind of mock-hanging.

    Violent imagery doesn’t do anyone any favors, it only makes you look like a kook.

    A stupid kook.


  6. Spencer's mom says:

    So teabagging has become the default position for anyone who opposes anything done, or just proposed, by the Democrats?

    Do they realize that they are the parody?

    PEACE


  7. hellinabucket says:

    While smiling. He wishes the death of an elected official while smiling. “Don’t do exactly as I want, I’ll hang you”. That’s not patients first. That’s mob rule.


  8. Zooey says:

    This shit is getting out of hand, and someone is going to get hurt or killed.

    These are the same type of people who killed Dr Tiller. We know what they’re capable of…


  9. P.D. says:

    OT. But OMG! Dennis Hasert just had his portrait hung in the Capitol. I feel sick. He wants to be remembered as a man who was fair to the Democrats and Republicans. Are we supposed to forget his helping Foley to cover-up the page scandal?


  10. roxsteady says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  11. eyeswideopen1 says:

    In the middle ages the idiot mob was duped into supporting the the spanish inquisition and burning witches.

    Then there were the McCarthyists and it was all about the communists who were everywhere trying to subvert the Gov’t apparently.

    Today they are called teabaggers and the overseers are corporate lobbyists.


  12. livelongandprosper says:

    “Hey look at me. I’m ignorant and proud of it!”


  13. Zooey says:

    roxsteady says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Get lost, halfwit.


  14. had enough says:

    Those of US in Oregon are furious with Wyden.

    A now running poll from KPOJ our Portland OR progressive radio station:

    Would you like to see a Democrat challenge Sen. Ron Wyden in the 2010 primary?

    Yes votes are 95%

    LOSE PUBLIC OPTION LOSE OUR VOTES


  15. Lefty Liberal says:

    How is this not threatening violence against an elected official? Isn’t that a felony? Where is the Secret Service or the FBI?


  16. singe_101 says:

    “If public insurance goes into law and doesn’t kill you, we certainly will!”

    My question is do they have a lynching fan club on Facebook, or just one for effigies?


  17. Zooey says:

    had enough,

    What’s up with Wyden?


  18. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Even though I was never a fan of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney (and less so after they lied to get us into Iraq — it kind of went downhill after that), I never displayed effigies of either of them hanging from a noose, nor did I ever support or applaud those who did.

    That’s just sick.


  19. P.D. says:

    Lefty@15, Yeah! Remember back in the day, if you said anything negative about Bush or his policies? You had Homeland Security knocking on your door! Talk about a double standard.


  20. barracks9 says:

    How is this not an implicit threat and worthy of official investigation?

    It’s one thing to put a sign on your own lawn in support of or opposition to a Proposition or Candidate, but to present this outside the headquarters of a government official crosses a line beyond harassment…well into the territory of bat-$hit crazy.


  21. misscoleopteramolly says:

    smidget says
    July 28th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Teabaggers, and their ilk (like these losers), are notoriously stupid. They don’t even realize that they are, again, protesting against their own self-interest.
    _____________________________________________________________

    Eh — teabaggers don’t think, period. Remember that the tea parties were supposed to be about tax increases that were actually non-existent.


  22. P.D. says:

    watchdog@22, Are you serious? I hope not. This IS a big deal.


  23. The Moderate Squad says:

    It’s Nostalgia Days for the neoCons!

    And watchdump, everything you say is redundant, because everyone already knows what you’re going to say.


  24. wiley says:

    Smiling Jack Shitweasel.

    Yeah, had enough—I’m mad too. I normally send him e-mails that are very polite, acknowledge the good that he’s doing. I make sure that I don’t only write when I have a complaint. This is the last e-mail I sent Wyden:

    What is your problem with passing health care reform?


  25. Lefty Liberal says:

    P.D. says:

    Lefty@15, Yeah! Remember back in the day, if you said anything negative about Bush or his policies? You had Homeland Security knocking on your door! Talk about a double standard.

    I am getting really worried about the implied violence by the Reich-wingers. Is it going to take the death of a congressman to start bringing charges against some of these people?


  26. mk3872 says:

    Making their heros Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh proud …


  27. The Moderate Squad says:

    misscoleopteramolly says: Remember that the tea parties were supposed to be about tax increases that were actually non-existent.

    You have a gift for boiling it right down…


  28. singe_101 says:

    Reminds me of American Psycho

    Police are investigating, but have taken (that guy) into custody.

    “It just doesn’t seem like him… he was always smiling, a happy guy. I never thought he would kill someone.”
    —-
    “Grr, I really want the government and politics out of my life! I know, I’ll work in politics and go to a Congressman’s office and show him dead on a noose.”


  29. bob hussein lablah says:

    watchdog says:

    This is not that big of a deal. Calm Down.

    Disingenuous post, at best.

    We all are fully confident you’d say the same if they had hung a republican in effigy….right?


  30. TheAntichrist says:

    @Amanda

    Glenn Bleck just said: “ApeCorn” on his TV program today before correcting himself. Freudian slip?


  31. Zooey says:

    watchdog says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Yeah, just imagine if that was Sarah Palin being hung in effigy.

    You’d be screaming at the top of your lungs.

    F uck off.


  32. AlphaLiberal says:

    This would be the Eliminationist tendency in the conservative movement, I guess.


  33. cd says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy but I didn’t like it then even though I didn’t like W and to see them doing this to some lowly Congressman is even more wrong somehow than when it was done to Bush.


  34. Zooey says:

    watchdog says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    What does Al Sharpton have to do with it? And why are you so frightened of him?


  35. KayInMaine says:

    Excellent! This means we get to hang Sarah Palin in effigy for Halloween without complaint this year! Wow. Thanks neocons.


  36. Zooey says:

    cd says:
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Pretty sure?


  37. The Moderate Squad says:

    Zooey says: Yeah, just imagine if that was Sarah Palin being hung in effigy.

    That would be difficult to stage, since she hangs herself every time she opens her pie hole. Still, it’s fun to think about…


  38. KayInMaine says:

    cd says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy but I didn’t like it then even though I didn’t like W and to see them doing this to some lowly Congressman is even more wrong somehow than when it was done to Bush.
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Correct and that’s because he’s a war criminal. The reich wingers are hanging Democrats in effigy because of health care for all. Big difference wouldn’t you say?


  39. Rich H says:

    cd,

    Your pretty sure – yeah, that convinces me. I’ve never said publicly what I’ve wanted for the Bush Crime family and as long as I don’t want a visit from the FBI I won’t.

    You right wing idiots are all about displaying your message. I hope they come and visit you soon.


  40. P.D. says:

    watchdog@30, I should have known better to respond to you. I should have follwed my credo, ‘Never feed a troll.’


  41. singe_101 says:

    Government is like an pit bull sniffing around your yard, all nosey like. Maybe relieving itself.

    Want it to leave you alone?

    Run up and kick it! Yeah! Protest!


  42. prostratedragon says:

    With the sappy grin he sets himself up for some completely false memory of what he was actually up to in the photo.

    Two years from now he’ll think that on that day he ran into an old school buddy at the strip mall.


  43. NutWrench says:

    P.D. says:

    Real Classy. Who’s the Bozo holding the effigy? I think he is in the same league as ‘Crazy Eileen’

    I think he might be related to the “get a brain, morans” guy on Fark.


  44. calfacon says:

    Do we have a couple of trolls? Seems to be 2 of them voting everything down.
    This is truly outrageous! Hanging a Congressman in effigy? What’s next?


  45. bob h says:

    Government paid-for healthcare is what we are talking about. It is not government run.


  46. bob hussein lablah says:

    AFP:

    Asshats for perniciousness


  47. had enough says:

    “Patients First,”

    “government-run health care.”

    dangers of “socialized” medicine.

    What are the 47 million who have NO access to health care think of those in your face lying terms? I have heard the lobbyists spend a million per day to keep their for profit system. These actors need to be exposed for what they are and stop the nonsense befor someone gets physically hurt.


  48. NutWrench says:

    I’m waiting for one of these morons to hang an effigy of Obama. You just know it’s going to happen. I’d like to see how their “ha ha, it’s just a joke” shenanigans plays with the Secret Service.


  49. KayInMaine says:

    I think it’s time for someone to create a pinata labeled, “RNC”.


  50. KayInMaine says:

    NutWrench, look what this right wing child-bearing-years “woman” did:

    http://nimg.sulekha.com/Others/original700/obama-effigy-2008-10-30-13-40-57.jpg


  51. 54thursday says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  52. KayInMaine says:

    watchdog says:

    KayInMaine says:

    Excellent! This means we get to hang Sarah Palin in effigy for Halloween without complaint this year! Wow. Thanks neocons.

    That wonderful childlike behavior on display that liberals are so infamous for.
    July 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    As usual, you are way behind in the news because you watch Faus News….

    UPDATE: You ninnies cried your eyeballs out because someone hung Sarah Palin up from their rooftop last Halloween before the 2008 election:

    http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site577/2008/1028/20081028_093246_palin28_400.jpg

    But then again…..IOKIYAR! Right?


  53. ralph the wonder llama says:

    It’s not fair to watchpup that Troll central is so short on talent these days. They’re asking him to do too much.

    Used to be, all they asked of watchpup was to scour the web every morning and assemble three or four right-wing talking points, and post ‘em. They didn’t have to be particularly interesting or truthful, and watchpup didn’t have to stick around and defend ‘em.

    Just post ‘em and split, like he’d just ripped a nasty bean burrito fart and wanted to skip town. That much, watchpup could handle.

    But this gig they’re asking him to take on? Trying to engage in dialogue throughout the day? Not in his skill set.

    It’s like asking Kenny Bania to take over the lead in a Seinfeld movie.


  54. The Moderate Squad says:

    watchpuss says: That wonderful childlike behavior on display that liberals are so infamous for.

    Speaking of childlike behavior and Sarah Palin…well, I guess that one’s so obvious I feel it would be overkill to even make a point…


  55. KayInMaine says:

    LOL Ralph the Wonder Llama!


  56. KayInMaine says:

    Those who are questioning the number “45 million uninsured” should know that myself and others question the “40 million aborted babies” number too. The End.


  57. had enough says:

    some good news:

    A guest from youstreet.org, a group formed promoting campaign finance reform, was interviewed on AAR by Nicole Sandler last night. The guest stated the Senate will debate this issue on Thurs.

    In my opinion the corporate powers that be will always rule until we can pass a decent campaign finance reform bill into law.


  58. The Moderate Squad says:

    54thursday says: So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    What’s your point? Illegals have been pointedly excluded from the count (conservative counting – even some of the legals aren’t counted for the purpose of being “conservative”), we tell 20-somethings things “for their own good” all the time, and people between jobs – especially those outsourced by niggardly CEOs or lost by incompetent and niggardly CEOs – still need to be able to see a doctor.

    Face it, neoCon – you want to be a Christian nation, but you don’t want to act like Christ…


  59. okie dokie says:

    Protest?

    What is he protesting, democracy or sanity?

    Looks more like an outbreak of Parrot Flu, to me.


  60. dasm says:

    AFP = home-grown, right-wing extremist terrorists. The DHS report becomes more relevant every day. Lynching Americans? Could a group be more racist, hateful, bigoted, & just plain stupid?
    Please, CIA & FBI, investigate this right wing terrorist group (AFP) asap. If you don’t, you are not only letting down all Americans, you are opening yourselves to lawsuits.


  61. NutWrench says:

    cd says:
    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy but I didn’t like it then even though I didn’t like W and to see them doing this to some lowly Congressman is even more wrong somehow than when it was done to Bush.

    Surely, you jest. Dear Leaders “free speech zones” made sure that any such disloyal activities would be kept far, far away from decent people and not disturb your delicate sensibilities.


  62. KayInMaine says:

    Let’s not forget it was Sarah Palin supporters (and John McCain supporters) who killed a bear cub and then tacked Obama campaign signs on it for “fun”!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/murdered-bear-cub-dumped_n_136347.html


  63. 54thursday says:

    The Moderate Squad says:

    54thursday says: So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    What’s your point? Illegals have been pointedly excluded from the count (conservative counting – even some of the legals aren’t counted for the purpose of being “conservative”), we tell 20-somethings things “for their own good” all the time, and people between jobs – especially those outsourced by niggardly CEOs or lost by incompetent and niggardly CEOs – still need to be able to see a doctor.

    Face it, neoCon – you want to be a Christian nation, but you don’t want to act like Christ…

    I am not a Neo Con and have said nothing about wanting this to be a Christian Nations. I am shocked and appalled that you would cast me in that light, but not really. Typical. So who does make up the 47 million in “your” #?


  64. aquavit29 says:

    It is really too bad that the only way for them to get attention is to have a “lynching” and represents all of the ignorance that is at work here. The only question I have is that with this reform why was it not brought up that per person in the united states we “pay”(don’t know where it goes) eight thousand dollars per citizen for health care that we never see. Just having a more efficient group to handle the allotments would allow all of us (gangster, thug and those that believe in manifest destiny) to have the best health care possible.


  65. aquavit29 says:

    That was eight thousand per year


  66. The Moderate Squad says:

    54thursday tried: I am shocked and appalled that you would cast me in that light, but not really. Typical. So who does make up the 47 million in “your” #?

    Wow, shocked AND appalled.

    But not really, right? As for the 47 million, they’re called “the needy,” and those are the ones that people of conscience are trying to help. People with mental health problems who have been cut loose since the Reagan era because they are expensive to maintain and rarely vote. People who have been down-sized from formerly lucrative jobs so the stockholders get their bump this quarter, before the company goes completely teats-up, because it’s more profitable to dump stock. People who got sick and their insurance company – the ones they Paid for years – drop them due to them not being in the black column any more.

    Why, what makes up your #?


  67. Game of Life says:

    Gawd it looks like they want to use the same effigy for our President. God forbid if they do.


  68. KayInMaine says:

    The 47 million uninsured:

    THOSE WORKING PART-TIME

    THOSE WHO CAN’T AFFORD TO PURCHASE HEALTH/MEDICAL INSURANCE

    THOSE NOT WORKING DUE TO LOST JOB

    THOSE NOT WORKING DUE TO DISABILITIES

    THOSE WHO THINK THEY DON’T NEED IT


  69. Game of Life says:

    cd says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy but I didn’t like it then even though I didn’t like W and to see them doing this to some lowly Congressman is even more wrong somehow than when it was done to Bush.

    BS!

    We just had bush’s face with a shoe upside his empty head.


  70. katy says:

    … that is… awful… i mean, wow…

    and there’s this perplexing headline on the googlenews page:

    Gates case: What’s race got to do with it?

    Christian Science Monitor – Patrik Jonsson – ?25 minutes ago?
    A predominately white segment of America sees the incident as further evidence that the country is becoming a post-racial society.

    really…? i mean REALLY…?

    guess that explains it…


  71. Flea says:

    I work around the corner from Kratovil’s office in Salisbury and on the way out I stopped by to see what these clowns were up to. There wasn’t any sign of Americans for Prosperity there, that appears to be a rumor. The guy holding holding the effigy told me he was the organizer of this protest. I think his name is Patrick.


  72. WAYNEBRO says:

    So let me get this straight.

    The idea to these self professed “Christians” of the sick and poor getting medical treatment that might be paid for out of their tax dollars, is so abhorrent to them, that they think suggesting lynching and hanging someone is the right thing to do?


  73. okie dokie says:

    KayInMaine @73

    Don’t leave out the “uninsurable”.

    Those with the so-called “pre-existing conditions.

    Whether it be terminal or manageable, or even curable.

    An incurable, cronic health condition is heartbreaking enough, without a life sentence to poverty.


  74. KayInMaine says:

    Good point, Okie Dokie! Yes, those with pre-existing conditions cannot get insurance and if they can, they most likely would not be able to afford it because the insurance company will charge them through the ying yang for it!


  75. WAYNEBRO says:

    The Neoconservative Christian wants nothing to do with helping the poor or the sick. No sirree. Not with THEIR tax dollars you don’t.

    If someones poor, and sick, and someone “wants” to help them out, well then ok. But if no one “wants” to help them out, then f$#k em.

    They’re on their own.

    It’s what Jesus would want.

    It’s what Jesus taught, right?

    We have no obligation to help the sick and the poor.

    :|

    None whatsoever.

    Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink. I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not. Sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

    Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

    Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

    Matthew 25


  76. okie dokie says:

    Your existing company will also gouge you if you develop a condition that requires management or compromises your health.
    They know you have no place else to go.


  77. WAYNEBRO says:

    It’s impossible to be against Public Health Care for all, and to also be a Christian.

    At least at the same time.


  78. wiley says:

    MY pre-existing condition that makes me ineligible for private health insurance is a misdiagnosis. Fortunately, I have the V.A., and they are quite good.


  79. ralph the wonder llama says:

    cd says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy

    I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of conservatives setting crosses on fire on the White House lawn.

    Hey, arguments are pretty easy when you set the bar for evidence this low, huh?


  80. had enough says:

    54thursday says:

    So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    I doubt if the majority of the 47 million come from your stated groups as 20 to 40 thousand annually die each year due to no access to heal care. These are those with pre existing conditions, in their 40’s and50’s and lost health care due to loss of job and can not afford the out of control cost of premiums.

    Just curious… which lobbying group hired you to post here?

    Only money could swag one to side with such an immoral anti American industry as for profit health insurance.


  81. had enough says:

    thank you KayInMaine.

    KayInMaine says:

    The 47 million uninsured:

    THOSE WORKING PART-TIME

    THOSE WHO CAN’T AFFORD TO PURCHASE HEALTH/MEDICAL INSURANCE

    THOSE NOT WORKING DUE TO LOST JOB

    THOSE NOT WORKING DUE TO DISABILITIES

    THOSE WHO THINK THEY DON’T NEED IT
    July 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm


  82. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    The only surprising thing is that the effigy is white.


  83. had enough says:

    Zooey says:

    had enough,

    What’s up with Wyden?

    From KOS

    Oregon Senator Ron Wyden’s health care plan and his role in the Senate Finance Committee’s contribution to a health care bill have been controversial. Wyden has been cast as an obstructionist while at the same time he has labored hard to create a plan he obviously believes in.

    Wyden is one of the many that will not sign on to a public option and he accepts much special interest money.


  84. Rodeskawler says:

    If every single American had for-profit healthcare and 60% of all bankruptcies were still caused by medical bills in 75% of those with health insurance, wouldn’t that still warrant reform?


  85. backup says:

    This example and the Palin example:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/sarahPalin/idUSTRE49Q79N20081027

    seem more appropriate for rabid fundamentalists than for U.S. partisans.


  86. wiley says:

    I told Wyden before, that I understand the extraordinary expense of campaigns; but if he passes a good health care reform bill, all he has to do is say, “Hi. I’m Ron Wyden, and I brought you health care”.


  87. Joe Albero says:

    Who do you people think you are stealing my photos and posting them on this site? Go here to see the original article and photo/photos. http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2009/07/kratovil-protest-couple-of-over-zealous.html

    I happen to believe I was VERY fair and honest about what happened yesterday and the AFP had absolutely NOTHING to do with this protest!

    Now, I want you to pull my photo or you will in fact hear from my attorneys. Chuck Cook lied and wasn’t even at the event.


  88. ralph the wonder llama says:

    watchpup, like I said before, if you’re gonna just phone it in, why even bother?

    Just for the meager paycheck? You may not have much of a reputation worth protecting, but still…


  89. Game of Life says:

    Joe, STFU.

    This is a non-profit website.


  90. Game of Life says:

    watchmutt, just called joe a liar.


  91. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Apparently neither Joe nor watchpup are aware of the principle of “fair use”.

    Big surprise.


  92. alpuz3 says:

    Oh, Joe’s threatening to sue… poor joe, with all the hangin’ and the protestin’ he still has time for some good ole fashin’ internet threatnin’.

    I guess he gets cranky when he’s tired.


  93. Flea says:

    Why would Chuck lie to say it was an AFP event and not retract it when presented with on-site witness of the event? That’s just nuts. My friend Jim, the mayor of Salisbury (D) supports AFP.


  94. alpuz3 says:

    Flea, you’re good buddies w/ the mayor? Does he call you Flea?


  95. Levi the Dungbeetle says:

    Republicans just love frivolous lawsuits. Talk about getting laughed out of court.

    How much damage could you prove? Maybe 25 cents worth? What a joke.


  96. alpuz3 says:

    You guys hang out? Backyard BBQ’s and such…?


  97. ralph the wonder llama says:

    watchdog says:
    ralph the wonder llama says:

    Apparently neither Joe nor watchpup are aware of the principle of “fair use”.

    Big surprise.

    So because you are a non-profit organization that prevents you from being sued?

    Can you point out where I suggested such a thing?


  98. DanCaveman says:

    until we have campaign finance reform that removes corporations from the equation, we will not get meaningful legislation or even an honest debate.


  99. WAYNEBRO says:

    Lets just put this whole public health care thing in perspective.

    I have to pay taxes anyway, so I could continue to pay taxes and get free medical care in return,….or I could continue to pay taxes and continue to use the current system, and when a family member gets some life threatening disease, have the insurance company drop us shortly after diagnosis, incur hundreds of thousands of dollars or more in medical bills, lose my home, my cars, move into a shitty apartment on the west side of town, have my credit ruined, and have collection agencies garnish my wages for the next 75 years to pay back the medical bills.

    Because according to folks like the clown in the photo THATS the American way!

    :|

    That’s what the smart folks want.


  100. majii says:

    Thank you, WAYNEBRO


  101. cd says:

    Zooey yeah I’m pretty sure I have better things to do than to look for the photos.


  102. cd says:

    “that’s because he’s a war criminal. The reich wingers are hanging Democrats in effigy because of health care for all.”

    I’m not sure I agree with your terms but I share your basic stance.


  103. Game of Life says:

    watchmutt, you enjoying stupid too much. I’m not saying that since this is a non-profit website they can’t be sued.

    This site isn’t making money using pics, you miserable idiot. As long as TP isn’t making money from this one pic, he can ram his threats up your b1tchass.


  104. cd says:

    ralph do you really expect me to believe you are unaware of all the Bush effigy destruction that took place?


  105. Game of Life says:

    psssstttt, mutt, click on (HT: Dave Weigel) and you will see how stupid you are.


  106. dbadass says:

    Burning bushes? Oh not that silly crap again. Next thing you know they’ll expect me to believe that a man can live in a cetaceans stomach…


  107. Game of Life says:

    Can you believe that the teabaggin crackpots are onto something altogether stupider, they are now saying that healthcare reform will allow the government to kill old people.

    I swear you would think only repugs have old people in their families. IDIOTS!

    btw — On Countdown they showed Jon S. clip slapping the hell out of bloodykristol’s bs concerning reform. HAHAHAHAHA

    bloodykristol had the nerve to state that vets should get better healthcare than us. Can you believe it? I would love to ask bloody wouldn’t a healthy recruit be better than a sick one?


  108. OutstandingInMyField says:

    cd says:
    ralph do you really expect me to believe you are unaware of all the Bush effigy destruction that took place?

    Can’t speak for ralph, but I can honestly say the only ones I remember seeing took place in Pakistan. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned “Kill Bush” T-shirts and I never saw one of those either. Not saying it didn’t happen, but it is possible for a reasonably well-informed person to be unaware of such.


  109. pat of wheaton says:

    teeth straightened, “designer” horn rib wearin, short d#cked, country club tough guy. He thinks guys like Saxby, Jefferson Bearigaurd and Ol Corynyn are the toughest guys he ever done saw about his cul de sac.

    Well get ready. Pepe, LaPhonso, Paddy, Stosh and Kim want to have a word with you. By the way you look like a guy I know named Sterling White.


  110. katy says:

    or you will in fact hear from my attorneys.

    aka “trial lawyers”?

    funny how they come in handy at times…


  111. Zooey says:

    had enough says:

    Wyden is one of the many that will not sign on to a public option and he accepts much special interest money.
    July 28th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Wow, that’s surprising. I’ve liked Wyden since I lived in Oregon, 16 years ago.


  112. ralph the wonder llama says:

    cd says:
    ralph do you really expect me to believe you are unaware of all the Bush effigy destruction that took place?

    well, cd, I can honestly say that I am unaware of all the “Bush effigy destruction that took place”, but nothing in my comment said anything about what I expected you to believe, or anything about my awareness or lack thereof of any bush effigy destruction.

    My point, which seems to have been lost on you, is that your original comment, “I’m pretty sure I’ve seen photos of liberals hanging bush in effigy” was radically unpersuasive. I wasn’t the first to point it out, either.

    Here’s a tip: your argument might have had some more oomph! if you had included a link to such a photo, rather than simply saying that you were “pretty sure” that you had seen some.


  113. cd says:

    Nice editing Raph but I wrote more than that.


  114. Zooey says:

    Is that your only response, cd?


  115. Ape-Man says:

    The Thuglianzi are good at non verbal communication. Too bad they have nothing good to say, and nothing new to say.


  116. cd says:

    Zooey nothing more needs to be said.

    Ralph only posted part of a quote and he got called on it.


  117. Zooey says:

    cd,

    If you can’t support (or bother to take the time to) your allegation, that seriously weakens any argument you put forward.

    Thanks for playing.


  118. cd says:

    FTR Zooey I hate freeper sites.

    Google “Bush effigy burning rally sf”


  119. Zooey says:

    Good for you.

    Obviously you’ve already done the work, so post the damn link. What’s your problem with backing up what you say? You’ve spent more time fighting it than it would have taken to put up a link.

    Only trolls expect others to do their work for them.


  120. Intrepid says:

    watchdog says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.

    This is not that big of a deal. Calm Down.

    Hey everyone, I have a brilliant idea. Lets make an effigy of watchmaggot being hanged and tell him that is not that big of a deal.


  121. Intrepid says:

    watchdog says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.

    KayInMaine says:

    Excellent! This means we get to hang Sarah Palin in effigy for Halloween without complaint this year! Wow. Thanks neocons.

    That wonderful childlike behavior on display that liberals are so infamous for.

    Translation:

    watchdog says:
    Making an effigy of a hanged Democrat is not a big deal but making an effigy of Sarah Palin being hanged is a big deal.

    Thanks for answering the question everyone was waiting for you to answer moron. You proved your double standard with delightful glee.

    Happy?


  122. Intrepid says:

    54thursday says:

    So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    US Census Bereau.


  123. Intrepid says:

    54thursday says:

    So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    THIS, LITTLE TEABAGGER!


  124. Intrepid says:

    54thursday says:

    So who is included in that 47 Million? Any illegals? Any 20 somethings who think that they are invincible? Anyone between jobs? Just curious.

    http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/002484.html

    Read it and weep while you cry like a little girl who got her barbie doll stolen from her.


  125. gaharrison says:

    It’s a shame that you can’t report on something serious without getting your facts wrong. Hanging an elected official in effigy is wrong and the people responsible should be held to public ridicule. Unfortunately, the folks at AFP had nothing to do with that event. If you looked to SbyNEWS (the source of all of the pictures originally lifted by DailyKos diarist Chuck Cook, it clearly states that a lot of the AFP people who came out for this left when they saw this disgraceful display.

    I know that you’re just trying to score cheap political points, but we should all agree to be a little more truthful about something like this.


  126. smidget says:

    @gaharrison

    I’m not claiming that the author of that piece is lying. I wasn’t there, and don’t know for sure what happened other than what I am reading.

    However, although the posting claims that at least 5 members of AFP left in disgust, comments to the posting claim otherwise. In addition, based on the tone of the article itself and the comments, one has strong reason to believe that the author has a bias similar at least to the bias TP has, only swinging in the opposite direction. At least TP has some links to back up their assertions. The article you posted is just some dude’s thoughts on the matter.

    Again, not calling him a liar, and I’m not calling TP a liar, either. Just saying that posting a clearly biased blog posting to refute a clearly biased blog posting is not going to do any good. It’s simply chasing your own tail.


  127. TruthTroll says:

    It’s wrong to hang people in effigy…

    Unless it’s George Bush, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Condoleeza Rice, Ronald Reagan, etc…


  128. KayT says:

    TruthTroll:It’s wrong to hang people in effigy…

    Unless it’s George Bush, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Condoleeza Rice, Ronald Reagan, etc…

    Where in the US have you ever seen anyone hanging Bush or any of the others you mentioned in effigy? What a ridiculous statement.

    I know people who live near Salisbury, MD. It is as rednecky as a place could get. Their claim to fame last year was that someone was putting superglue on toilet seats in stores and restaurants catching (literally) several men unawares. That place is just a barrel of laughs.


  129. jackiero says:

    Kay T:

    click here

    and here


    and here

    and here

    and here

    and finally, bush hanged in effigy (wow!)

    To everyone else, quit the melodrama. Try looking up “hanging in effigy” and see that it’s a symbolic political protest against policies, not an actual call to action for violence. Any freaking level-headed person understands the distinction.


  130. silentpeace says:

    It’s funny that so many seek to get health care from the government when it is the current government controls and subsidies which contrict supply and raise prices. Nearly every transaction in the health industry falls under some mandate or subsidy. At the same time large companies awash in fiat money lobby this same government for the power and control to implement said laws and regulations. Untimately the problem lies in the system that takes the value of your money in the first place and transfers it upward to these people who are seperate only in illusion. The key is to get control of the purchasing power of money and to get the power to chose your care and control government and insurance yourself. That can only be done by getting control of the inflation of the Federal Reserve and stopping their counterfeiting which creates the poor and moves us all into the hell that is government control of the means of production and the seizing of private property which is the foundation of all freedom. http://www.isil.org/resources/philosophy-of-liberty-english.swf


  131. Theseus says:

    I used to be for “universal” healthcare. Now I am against any government nanny state where we the people become dependent upon the government to provide for ourselves.

    Stop asking for handouts from the government. America was build on a free-independent spirit. Taking handouts of health care from the government gives them the tools they need to start taking control of your lives.

    You think this is about simply providing you health care? Nope. It is about another tool to control your lives. Don’t think for a second that the government won’t start to mandate regiments of care to push their agendas.

    America too fat? Since we control their health care we can mandate care. How? They will claim that obese people cost us billions and thus, to save the program money they are requiring people to take “obesity reducing classes”.

    Don’t think they wont.


  132. the_naked_singularity says:

    That is literally a death threat, which is illegal. I’m always so surprised when I see cheese-eaters like that breaking the law, I mean, what with all their conservative b.s.


  133. cd says:

    Gosh I guess everyone on youtube is a troll since telling someone to google key words in order to view an image is very normal there.

    Or maybe someone just doesn’t know what they’re talking about.


  134. forwardthinker says:

    And why aren’t THESE people being arrested for “disorderly conduct?” I’m actually quite serious. How about starting at the source by levying hefty fines on the right-wing, corporate-sponsored propaganda machines of Fox News, Limbaugh (Clear Channel), and the like for inciting violence, inflaming racist sentiments, promoting falsehoods against our President and any elected officials who support his agenda, thereby endangering their safety? This tactic of harassment and guerrilla warfare against our duly-elected President and other elected officials is obviously all the right wing has got to offer to compensate for their lack of real ideas to help the nation move forward? They continuously prove what LOSERS they are and why they deserve to stay out of power until they change their ways. But seeing as they’re unrepentant & digging in their heels, the more level-headed among us must insist that they be held to account for the consequences of their treasonous words & actions. Let’s see if the local police from communities around the country will show up to arrest the predominantly white (I’m presuming here, of course) rabble rousers for disorderly conduct at the town halls. Just imagine if progressives/Dems were behaving like this! The right wing would be looking to throw us in jail or out of the country for being unpatriotic! I’m hoping everyone sees them for the vile hypocrites they really are and that, as a result, they continue to lose seats in Congressional & state house races in 2010. And to my fellow Obama campaign workers & supporters: it’s time to stand up & stand behind our President and to remind him of his promise: YES WE CAN make the hard but necessary changes we need to make to elevate us out of the ditch dug for us by 8 years of unobstructed Republican rule. Let’s do this!


  135. forwardthinker says:

    In response to Theseus (comment 139):
    You’re buying into the right-wing paranoia around this issue. It’s smoke & mirrors to hide the real agenda, which is to protect the outlandish corporate profits of the insurers & big pharma — who, by the way, are the REAL culprits in rationing care & profiting from such a broken system. I’m sure you have friends or family members who either don’t have insurance, or who have jobs but can’t afford insurance because it’s not provided by their employers, or who are underinsured at the jobs they have & get denied at the very moment they need care. The movie “Sicko” was all about this. And, by the way, the big, bad government-run Medicare program turned 44 years old yesterday, and the ultra-conservative Bill Kristol was heard on Jon Stewart’s Daily Show (7/27) admitting that the government-run V.A. system is the best care around because our soldiers deserve the best care in return for the sacrifice they make to serve the country. So I’m guessing that when & if you become eligible for Medicare, or if you’re a veteran, you’ll adhere to your anti-government-handout (it’s actually YOUR tax dollars, by the way) philosophy and refuse to participate in these “socialist” programs. If you’re enjoying the benefit of either or both of these programs, you have progressive Democrats to thank. And we don’t mind if you go ahead and stay on those plans either — because they ARE the best in quality & in cost-effectiveness. What we need to do in this nation is stop funding useless foreign wars with borrowed money from other governments! As Marian Wright Edelman so eloquently said, “In America, there is no money problem; there is only a problem of values & priorities.”



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