After Bragging ‘Our Effort Is To Slow This Down,’ Sen. Kyl Claims Republicans Are Not Holding Up Health Reform
After Bragging ‘Our Effort Is To Slow This Down,’ Sen. Kyl Claims Republicans Are Not Holding Up Health Reform
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ), who serves as the Republican whip in the Senate, has been a chief architect of tactics aimed at delaying — and ultimately defeating — health reform.
Speaking with radio show host Hugh Hewitt last month, Kyl stated, “The President has said that if we don’t do [health reform] quickly, it won’t get done at all, and he’s right.” Kyl then added, “Our objective is to slow this down.” He also admitted recently that he revoked Sen. Chuck Grassley’s (R-IA) authority to negotiate with Democrats on the Finance Committee, even though Grassley is the ranking member.
Nevertheless, this morning on Fox News, Kyl seized upon recent delays in the health reform process to assert that his party has no role in obstruction:
KYL: So I think it’s important to remind folks Democrats have a 60 to 40 majority in the Senate and a bigger margin than that in the House. So, if they all got together they could pass a bill. This isn’t being held up by Republicans.
Watch it:
Today, the Hill quoted an anonymous influential lobbyist who claimed a key strategy of defeating Obama’s reforms is to “create delays” and when negotiations break down, to seize the “opportunity to outright kill a proposal.” Despite Kyl’s professed innocence, Senate Republicans have been on the front lines of this delay and kill approach:
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA): “I take pride with being an obstructionist.” [Politico, 7/6/09]
Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC): “I think we can stop it in the Senate. … We cannot afford to lose the health care battle.” [Fox News, 6/30/09]
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY): “It needs to slow down.” [Senator McConnell Press Office, 7/6/09]
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK): “I think the first thing [on health reform] is, slow down guys.” [Senate Republican Caucus Video, 7/14/09]
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS): “Maybe we could put something underneath that and say: ‘Slow Down’ or maybe in the language of my State ‘Whoa.’” [Senator Floor, 7/14/09]
Sen. Mike Enzi: “We need to slow down.” [Senator Enzi Press Office, 6/8/09]
Meanwhile in the House, Republican leaders are similarly using every tactic available to delay and kill reform. The Hill also recently reported that Newt Gingrich, the Republican leader who instructed members to “do whatever they can to kill” President Clinton’s health reform proposals in the early 90s, is now assisting Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) in whipping Republican opposition to health reform.
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Just you and the Blue Dogs.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:35 amLiar, liar, pants on fire…
I am so sick of repiggies. I can’t stand to even look at them.
We need to oppose the blue dogs standing for re-election if the public option gets scrapped.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:38 amShaking my head, really i mean why don’t they just come out and say “we know our people are dumber then dirt we have to try and convince (con) the others who are educated to dumb down.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:39 amBy using the media.
No, Kyl’s right. Healthcare reform isn’t being held up by the GNOP, it’s being held down.
And many, many thanks to the idiot Blue Dogs who have become the Republican’s best friend. They now realize that they don’t need to be in the majority – they can still call the shots and blame the Democrats in the process.
Win-win for the GNOP, lose-lose for the We the People.
PEACE
July 28th, 2009 at 11:40 am“I don’t care what I said yesterday, I want you to believe what I’m saying right now…”
July 28th, 2009 at 11:40 amCan anyone name one thing the republicans have done for the general welfare of the people of the U.S. over the past 40 years?
Anyone? Anything?
July 28th, 2009 at 11:42 amIf health care does not pass then the Dems can only blame themselves. They need to stop trying for bipartisanship because the Republicans are not going to vote for it anyway. The Dems need to lock out the Republicans in the legislative process and use it to teach them a lesson. If they do not negotiate in good faith, then the Dems should continue to lock them out of other legislation. When a few pieces of legislation are passed without their input, they may be more willing to participate in the legislative process. Further, the Dems need to use reconciliation to pass legislation and remind the Republicans that they used the process to pass their legislation under Bush.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:43 amI truly can’t believe these people..why don’t they think the people of this country deserve a decent health care system…Or a decent education…oh that’s right, if you give people education then they might realize what’s happening to them!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 11:43 amLet’s be fair to the sen. It’s not JUST being held up by obstructionist repubs. It’s the blue dogs, too.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:43 amOutstanding.
Invading and killing hundreds of Iraqi’s requires quick approval.
Providing quality health care to their own people, must be stopped.
I don’t even have the words.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:44 amHey Rich,
July 28th, 2009 at 11:45 amI sat here and tried to think of something positive that the repugs have done. Im drawing a blank.
Rich H,
Nixon did sign the Clean Air and Water Acts. Not that the Republican Presidents who came after him enforced them.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:46 amMy first thought was that the Repubs really don’t understand the tubes and wires of modern technology, but I think it’s more child-like than that.
Like children, who seem to think all rules end at midnight, Repubs think their words are brand new every morning.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:46 amWith respect to the call for slowing down the process of health care reform, the GOP is once again embracing the stratagem of social stagnation.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:50 amRepublicans caught lying…
In other news, sun expected to set in western sky this evening…
@#7 pags2:
HELL YEAH! Wtf is stopping us? The mewling and carping of Rethugs?
They need to just say “We’re gonna do what’s right. The train’s leaving the station and the Repugs can stay on the platform stroking it if they want, but here we go.”
July 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am.
Of course it’s not obstructionism when Republicans do it, YES?
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July 28th, 2009 at 11:50 amMr. Bungle,
Your right, got me by three years.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:51 amSen. Pat Roberts (R-KS): “Maybe we could put something underneath that and say: ‘Slow Down’ or maybe in the language of my State ‘Whoa.’” [Senator Floor, 7/14/09]
Well , with you , personally , you can just pretend it’s an investigation into the Bush administration , right , skid mark ?
The GOP – Denial and hypocrisy are their life-blood……
July 28th, 2009 at 12:03 pmHow stupid does one have to be to fall for the midnight “do-over” again and again?
July 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pmSorry for the offtopic post but I need help. Desperately.
July 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pmcjpolley says:
I truly can’t believe these people..why don’t they think the people of this country deserve a decent health care system…Or a decent education…oh that’s right, if you give people education then they might realize what’s happening to them!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm————————————————————–
These guys on the Reich aren`t very good at losing, so they will make us suffer.They can`t stand the thought of a Black man in the Oval office, this whole thing is about racism,which is so sad that they play these petty games with our lives and the Dems haven`t got the spine for these type of politics.
EnnuiDivine says:
Let’s be fair to the sen. It’s not JUST being held up by obstructionist repubs. It’s the blue dogs, too.
Absolutely true, and Kyl is correct:
KYL: So I think it’s important to remind folks Democrats have a 60 to 40 majority in the Senate and a bigger margin than that in the House. So, if they all got together they could pass a bill. This isn’t being held up by Republicans.
It doesn’t mean the GOPers aren’t actively seeking to obstruct reform, but he’s correct that “if they all got together they could pass a bill.”
July 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pmThe whole point is a public option.
July 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pmWith this bipartisan health bill will we see any reform? Yes indeedy!! They are called mandates and the middle class will get a bunch of them. Catastrophic care; you betcha. Cost? About 200 bucks!!! A month!!! Co-ops? In spades!!! With no cost containment? For sure!!! Cost of owning the gov’t and the Representatives who work there for the Corporate Fat Cats? Priceless!!!! Just Say No to the Co- Presidency of Max Baucus and Chuck Grassley. We elected Obama and not Dlue Dog Republicans..er, Democrats in 2008. Killing the Middle Class was not part of the Party Platform. Enough Already!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pmIf anyone in the Roaring Fork Valley,and Eagle, Garfield,and Mesa Counties, Colorado are interested, there will be a rally for Healthcare Reform in Glenwood Springs today at 1:00 PM at Axtell Park, 11th & Cooper Ave., behind the Chamber of Commerce. The rally is being organized by the National Change that Works Campaign. There are also other rallies scheduled for today in Colorado as well.
July 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pmluvlylib says:
C’mon guys. Get that negative count going. Show me my post is right on.
Censor the he*l out of me. You thinking Progressives make me laugh. Can’t tolerate a person with an oposing view.
“Opposing view” implies an argument based on fact or a well-layed-out opinion. Snotty comments admittedly posted just to be disruptive is knowing as trolling. You get a negative count for being a jerk, not for opposition.
July 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pmluvlylib says:
Sorry, but I don’t see much of that here. You didn’t read what was posted here, did you?
Riiight. Is this the part where you claim not to be a troll?
July 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pmluvlylib–another stray dog leaving dung piles on the neighbor’s lawn.
Anybody got a shovel?
July 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pmluvlylib says:
That sounds like Obama speaking. Right on raynman. ;)
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No it doesnt. You are a liar and a fool and an ignorant punkass troll.
July 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pmluvlylib says:
My GOD you are ignorant. You have no RIGHT to have your stupid hurting everyones eyes on a public message board. You are not a victim at all. You are a punk and a troll. You arent here to discuss anything you are here to annoy us. Of COURSE your posts are going into the sewer. That is where they belong you are far too stupid to actually contribute to the discussion and you dont try. You are an ignorant piece of garbage and your posts go where garbage belongs through an act of direct democracy. You can snivel because, well because you are a punk and that is what punks do, also becuase your stupid posts get treated like they deserve but no one censored you. Your posts were shown. Then it was decided that they werent worth dogcrap so they got voted down. Your WWWWWWWAAAAAAQAAAAAAAHHHHHHH is just as pathetic as your posts are.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:00 pmluvlylib says:
Only Liberal Progressive stroking going on here
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No that isnt all that is going on. There are also conservatives like you that show how uncommonly stupid and breathtakingly ignorant and brainwashed you are. When the people get tired of their ignorance stinking up the board they vote them into the sewer where all your posts go and all your posts belong. Cowboy up. It isnt our fault you are too stupid to contribute
July 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pmluvlylib says:
Isn’t “Progressive” thought great?????????
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Your posts are insulting us, whining like the punk you are, and spewing crap at us like a monkey at the zoo and you think that CALLS for well laid out arguments and showing you our thoughts? YOu dont deserve that. You havent EARNED a look at our arguments. Petulant punkass morons like you only get slapped around. It is all that is called for and all you deserve. I would say make an actual point and we will lay out an argument but we both know you are far too stupid for any higher brain function like forming an actual point or argument. That is why you havent done so once in any post you have ever made and why all your posts go straight to the sewer where they belong. Stop whining punk, and go pour yourself a nice steaming hot cup of STFU
July 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pmluvlylib says:
Back on topic.
It’s the Democrats that are holding up this bill. The Republicans don’t have the votes to hold up anything.
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Wrong there arent enough blue dogs to hold up anything without solid GOP support so its the GOPIGGIES holding things up with the HELP of a few dems
Deal with it. :)
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You are a stupid piece of garbage and an ignorant punkass troll DEAL WITH IT.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pmI used to be that to do research on what someone had said, you had to subscribe to rather expensive news services such as those under Lexis/Nexis.
Then you could just use the Google and usually find what a political figure had said in the past.
Now just search YouTube and you get the actual video of them saying it.
And the repubs still haven’t figured out that such stupid comments make the cannon fodder for Countdown / Daily Show / and even the conservative rantings of Colbert ? ;-)
July 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pmLuvlyMORON
My GOD you are so stupid I am ashamed to be the same species as you. You spew the stupidst nonsense I have ever seen. Obama did not say what you claim he said
Mr. Obama barred officials of his administration from lobbying their former colleagues “for as long as I am president.” He barred former lobbyists from working for agencies they had lobbied within the past two years and required them to recuse themselves from issues they had handled during that time.
I dont care what Rush told you to think you are a liar and a fool
Change DOES come to Washington. He is telling Americans they better get involved. That isnt saying one thing and doing another only someone as stupid as you would think it is. Did you really think he wouldnt try to change anything because he said that? You are a MORON.
I know you dont care if you insult us. That is why you come here. After all you are a stupid punkass troll and that is all you do. You are a punk annd a moron. You arent capable of anything else. I do love to hear you snivel WWWWWAAAAHHHHHH you are voting down my posts. As if we were obligated to leave your stupid wortheless whining and lying idiocy up so as NOT to be accused of censorship. You are stupid. Your posts are stupid, they get relegated to the sewer where they belong because that is what they deserve. By DIRECT DEMOCRACY IN ACTION. I know you really stupid cons just hate democracy unless it turns out they way YOU want it to. You are a worthless piece of garbage. A punk without a single functioning braincell. So sad and pathetic you think annoying other people is entertainment. We get it. You KNOW you are too stupid to contribute so this is the best you have. However when you come here to do that then snivel that we dont give analytical answers that talk about our policies instead of slapping you around like the petulant punk you are like you deserve anything else it is just the whining of a child. Grow up. B
July 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pmluvlylib says:
God you are so stupid I dont know how you feed yourself. So our country ISNT as polarized as our politics are and to rebut this YOU are so stupid you cite a political category. My GOD you are stupid. He ADMITS to audacity and YOU call it arrogance. You are nothing but an ignorant punkass troll. Back to your weak attempt at a point. You are stupid. The bluedogs arent enough of a power to hold up ANYTHING on their own. Without solid GOP support they would be meaningless so you would ignore the fact the GOP is solidly trying to hold up anything and have gotten a very few Dems to work with them and even though they are a small minority in the Dem party you say its the DEMS fault that a few of them work WITH the GOP to hold this up but it isnt the GOPS fault. You have no brain. You are stupid. This is why you let radio screechmonkeys do your thinking because you are way too stupid to think for yourself
July 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pmluvlylib says:
all your posts are destined for the sewer because it is the only thing your STUPID posts deserve. You are stupid. You are a punk. You are a troll. Those are your best qualities
July 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pmIn 50 I forgot the link for my citation
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/01/22/no-lobbyist-in-the-obama-administration–except-when-there-is-one.html
July 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pmThe republi-cants must be getting heat from their own constituents about proposing some kind of health care reform.
Maybe they will actually have to stand for something instead of being the “no” guys.
Then again….
July 28th, 2009 at 4:20 pmTHE OUTRIGHT STUPIDITY of Obama and Democrats SIGNALING UP FRONT that they were willing to accept a BIPARTISAN compromise has to be one of the DUMBEST and most SELF-DEFEATING political strategies I’ve seen from Democrats in my lifetime.
The Republicans are on a Kamikaze mission to sink President Obama and Democratic leaders and they don’t care if they take themselves and the entire Republican Party down with them. They are going for broke because they feel they have nothing more to lose.
And Blue Dog Democrats have sold their votes to the corporations who contribute to their political campaigns for thirty pieces of silver.
President Obama and the Democratic leadership SHOULD have been INSISTING on SINGLE PAYER from day one in the hope that they’d at least force opponents into accepting a STRONG PUBLIC OPTION in the health care reform bill. Instead, they began by declaring they were seeking a BIPARTISAN agreement with Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats who were INSISTING on maintaining the STATUS QUO in the hope that President Obama and the Democratic leadership would be forced to accept a TRIGGERED CO-OP and in effect FAIL to reform health care by FAILING to create competition for health insurance companies. THAT IS NOTHING LESS THAN OUTRIGHT STUPIDITY!
July 28th, 2009 at 4:57 pmluvlylib says:
Of course you arent a progressive you are stupid. Yes you are a troll, an ignorant punkass troll. You only want to annoy because you KNOW you are too stupid to contribute. You are a punk and your posts are punkass trollturds. So they get flushed as they should. Being dissed by someone as stupid as you is a badge of honor. You are a brainwashed cretin. A walking colostomy bag. I enjoy slapping you around because stupid of your magnitude is ruining the country. Also it is quite satisfying to laugh at people as stupid as you
July 28th, 2009 at 5:04 pmBeing a conservative I’ve never voted for a Democrat in my life but I could vote for a Blue Dog Democrat.
July 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pmluvlylib says:
Of course. I am repetitive. I am talking to the stupidest people on the Planet. Repitition is your native tongue. You KNOW you are stupid. You KNOW you are a punk so all yo do is try to annoy us. Like that petulant kid no one likes who comes to a party and knocks the cake over so no one can enjoy themselves. You are a disgusting piece of garbage. Everyone here knows that. I dont care if you cry or laugh. You are beneath contempt and I will keep slapping you around because its fun to mop the floor with morons like you. Sure you go way back and have been banned how many times under how many names BECAUSE you are nothing but a punkass troll and no site thinks morons like you should be allowed in? It doesnt matter all your posts will get flushed which is what they deserve. If you had an ounce of self respect you would just break out crying at how stupid and pathetic you are.
July 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pmluvlylib says:
WWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH says the ignorant piece of garbage who insults us with every post then snivels like the punk he is about how hateful WE are. WWWWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH. Just STFU no one is listening to you and this last post of yours will get flushed like all the rest of them.
July 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pmSo How are the Repubs blocking Heath Care in the House?
July 28th, 2009 at 5:54 pmluvlylib says:
Of course they dont change your stupid punkass trolling doesnt change. You are ignorant and you act like an A$$HOLE. Do you really think I am obligated to come up with a new variation of A$$HOLE to describe you constantly acting like an A$$HOLE? You can give up the stupid if you were really tolerant and liberal you would kiss my A$$. Its stupid and transparent. You are rude, stupid, and trolling. You dont deserve anything except what I dole out. You wont manipulate us with such juvenile attempts. You are a punk. You ACT like a punk. I am calling you a punk. This is actually simple enough for your subhman moron brain. You came here with a nick and we mopped the floor with you. You realized you were way too stupid to even TRY to debate and petulant punk that you are you decided since you were too stupid to play the game you would screw with the game. It would never occur to me to go to a conservative site to tell everyone what was wrong with conservatives. I am not that sad and pathetic. What you do is the equivalent of an Atheist going to a church to tell everyone that believing in God makes them morons. It isnt the beliefs you have that are stupid it is your arrogant desire to push your offensiveness on us. So we vote it down in an example of direct democracy. That threatens you since you KNOW you are so stupid you cant come up with meaningful points so you flood the site with a bunch of posts that will take TIME to vote down and you snivel like the punk you are that US telling YOU that you are stupid and we think your posts are stinking piled of dogshit is censoring you WWWWWWWAAAHHHHHHHHHH. Just do the only adult thing you have ever done in your life, stop acting like a petulant child and STFU
July 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm54thursday says:
I’ve explained it twice the fact YOU and LLMoron are too stupid to understand simple English isnt my problem. Your stupid is never going to be my problem.
July 28th, 2009 at 6:13 pmLvlyMoron
I take no special interest in you. I just amuse myself by slapping stupid punkass trolls around and laughing at morons as stupid as you
July 28th, 2009 at 6:14 pmluvlylib says:
I have to repeat myself you are too stupid to understand anything else. You are a moron. YOu THINK it clever to act like a punk and try to annoy us. It shows what a sad pathetic child you are. The is WHAT A SAD PATHETIC CHILD YOU ARE. I have to say it over and over because you are so STUPID. THAT IS YOU ARE STUPID. Do you think you are clever enough to manipulate me? You are not. You keep ACTING like a punkass troll over and over. I CALL you a punkass troll over and over. You are beneath contempt and you can talk about manipulated polls all day. The ELECTIONS show that people want MORONS LIKE YOU kept miles from power. Win an election of STFU
July 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pmluvlylib says:
It is funny how pathetic you are. You are so stupid you cant even come up with your own insults and steal mine. I love to laugh at people as stupid as you
July 28th, 2009 at 6:38 pmluvlylib says:
Thats only appropriate. Your STUPID is classic. The stupid of a punkass troll who isnt bright enough to contribute. You arent delusional enough to think you were original or clever are you? Did you think this NEW spin on the stupid argument that if I were just cool enough I would kiss your butt and allow YOU to insult us while I refrained from returning serve was going to work? You are stupid. You are a troll. You dont contribute as long as you keep being stupid, being a troll and keep trying to annoy us I will continue to slap you around which is all you deserve. You can KISS my A$$
July 28th, 2009 at 7:14 pmluvlylib says:
Yes you have the right to be as stupid as you want but you keep arguing what the American people think. My point is you LOST the election and THAT is what the American people think. The reason you should STFU is because you are stupid and arent trying to discuss anything with us only be an ignorant punkass troll.
It may come as a suprise to you but you cant read my mind. The fact I amuse myself by slapping stupid punks whose mission in life is to annoy those like me doesnt mean I am angry. What is it about you really stupid people that you think anger is the only motivation for those like me to point out how stuid you are? You can kiss my A$$ all you want. I will still slap the stupid out of your posts because that is all they deserve.
July 28th, 2009 at 7:27 pmluvlylib says:
I enjoy slapping you around because you are stupid and a punk and a troll. Trolls deserve nothing but contempt. Stop pretending you are above ANYONE. You already lowered yourself far below any level I have ever been to. You insult us in every post you make. You heap contempt on liberals AT a liberal website. Your stupid is offensive.
It is so entertaining to see you snivel like the punk you are WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH insulting us then whining we insult you back. WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHH is not an argument. I dont know why you think we ought to take your insults and keep treating YOU with respect but its pathetic. YOU are pathetic. What obligation do you think I have to accept your insults without returning them? Why do you heap contempt on us then act like its suprising we return serve. Cowboy up or STFU
July 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pmYou dont have the intellect for an intelligent conversation. I wouldnt waste my time. YOU are a moron. Your first posts were a knee jerk attack on Obama, trying to change the subject in true troll fashion. I have SEEN your trolling before and NEVER once seen a reasonable post from you. You devolved quickly into flat out insults to us. You are a stupid punkass troll. You wont fool anyone by trying to turn it around on me. YOU started the BS. YOU came here to be a thorn in our side not to contribute to the discussion which you have NEVER done because you know you are too stupid to do so.
YOU are repeating YOURSELF and again trying the plainly stupid tactic of demanding I come up with shiny new and interesting things to say to your same old same old. You can try your manipulation all day. I am not as stupid as you. I never will be. You will never manipulate me. You are a moron face it. You came here to be a troll then decided to snivel on and on and on and ON about how we dont treat trolls like you AS IF they were contributing to the site. You should just STFU because you arent even TRYING to contribute. You fool no one. We will never be as stupid as you. You MIGHT get the last word if you try real hard but what has been said here wont go away and you will NEVER wear me down. I will always come at you because I just dont like punkass trolls who think it clever to just screw with us.
Nemesis Retributive justice in its execution or outcome
Get used to it. I am your Nemesis. I will not be manipulated, I will not be worn down. I will come at you till the seas dry up and the stars fall from the sky or till you STOP being a stupid punkass troll. Count on it. You will always be stupid you cant help that but for as long as you come here to annoy us and play the troll you can count on me calling you out on it and you are WAY too stupid to stop me in any way. m
July 28th, 2009 at 8:03 pmLuvlyMORON
You think I am trying to impress you? You are even stuider than I thought. You can kiss my A$$. You are a punk. I am slapping you around. That is all you deserve. That is the only function you serve. You are too stupid and pathetic for anything else.
July 28th, 2009 at 8:33 pmReally LuvlyMOron?
Yet YOU do the same thing over and over. You come here and insult us then snivel like a punk that we insult you back. You keep ANSWERING me with the same schtick over and over. You keep trying to manipulate me over and over with variations of the same old idiocy. None of it is ever going to work. You are still stupid. You are still a troll. You still think you can somehow manipulate us into letting YOU insult us and screw with us WITHOUT us calling you out on it. Keep shoveling the stupid moron. It is old but it wont wear me down. You disgust decent people. Your posts will be sewered like they deserve and if TP had an ounce of sense they would ban you AGAIN.
July 28th, 2009 at 8:40 pmAlso LuvlyMORON you dont DESERVE decent conversation. You arent HERE for decent conversation you are here to be a troll and to annoy us. Decent conversations also dont begin by trying to change the subject. You have NEVER started a decent conversation and you wont fool anyone around here to think you are TRYING to have a decent conversation. You are an ignorant punkass troll. You think you ought to come in and BE a troll and insult us then snivel like the punk you are that we dont THEN treat you as if you DESERVE a decent conversation. Dont think that by TALKING about the decent conversations you have NO interst in people are going to forget that you NEVER try to have one and are ONLY here to be a troll.
July 28th, 2009 at 8:44 pmCould some of you folks playing whack-a-troll help me out here ?
Is Luvlylib, who characterizes himself in an above post as “I am a troll” He / She is obviously pushing the repub points.
So is he/she trying to disprove the distasteful stereotype of the republican blow-hard by verifying the stereotype of the republican blow hard.
I just don’t understand this strategy.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pmThis issue is much too important to let politics distract us. We don’t need a single repug to pass this bill. Please don’t be distracted and make excuses for our Democratic representatives. We have to hold them responsible or we will deserve what we get. If Democrats want to give Americans healthcare, they can do it now. And they can do so without adding to the deficit. Please keep reminding your Democratic reps that, if the bill fails or is so weak as to be useless, the fault lies with them. We expect repugs to sell us out, not Democrats
July 29th, 2009 at 1:58 amWell, looks like Luvly lib totally missed my point and in the process proved it.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pmThe republicans are really stupid.
They are so stupid they can hold up Obama’s legislation even though the democrats have 60 votes in the senate, a wide majority in the house, and a president with a 54 percent approval rating.
Wow. They are really stupid and pathetic. Their voters are so stupid that their stupid rays force democrats to disagree with one another. Goodness are they stupid and pathetic.
July 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pm