Media Matters will run ad campaign on CNN condemning Dobbs’ birther sympathies. (Updated)
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Media Matters will run ad campaign on CNN condemning Dobbs’ birther sympathies. (Updated)
Recently, CNN host Lou Dobbs joined the ranks of the birther movement, demanding that President Obama release his birth certificate to prove that he was born in the United States. Although CNN President Jon Klein originally told Dobbs to stop pursuing a “dead” story, he later backed off, telling the Washington Post that Dobbs’ critics are “people with a partisan point of view from one extreme or another.” Now, Media Matters has put together a new 30-second ad — which will air starting Tuesday on Fox News, MSNBC, and even during Dobbs’ show on CNN — calling attention to Dobbs’ affinity for the birthers’ demands. Watch it:
Dobbs has responded to the ad campaign by labeling Media Matters a “rabid left-wing operation.”
Update Sam Stein reports that "a source at Media Matters says that cable providers have refused to let it run on CNN -- for all but a portion of the New York viewing audience."
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WTF is wrong with these people?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 amIf God himself burned via lightning bolts into stone tablets that Obama was born in Hawaii, these idjits would still be screaming for more proof.
Oh c’mon Lou! Instead of pouting just show the nation Obama’s One Hundred Percent Genuine Not Available in any Stores for a Limited Time only Commemorative Family Heirloom Republic of Kenya Birth Certificate that MAY Increase In Value If You Act NOW!
Please Please Please!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 amMM may be an ‘operation’ that uses actual transcripts and videos to allow people to make their own decisions to the dismay of the RW and fox . .
But does anyone other than the RW believe that Lou Dobbs is a JOURNALIST?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 amIs the C.I.A. still doing LSD test’s?
Well, I don’t know about the CIA, but would have to be dropping something wicked good to buy this stupid birther bullshit.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 amMM may be an ‘operation’ that uses actual transcripts and videos to allow people to make their own decisions to the dismay of the RW and fox . .
That’s why they’re extreme left-wing. Didn’t you know? Using facts to get your point across is the exclusive domain of commies, pinkos, and dirty hippy libruls.
Reality does, after all, have a distinctly liberal bias.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 amWhat is the difference between a “rabid left-wing operation” and a “rabid right-wing A-hole?”
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 amMedia Matters will run ad campaign on CNN condemning Dobbs’ birther sympathies.
– - This is like when O’Reilly’s show would advertise in Countdown’s time slot. They aren’t going to convince Dobbs’ viewers that he’s nuts.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 ambirthers = republicans = birthers
they hatched this phenom, now they own it
republicans are birthers, no matter how much they deny it
remember this on election day
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 amthe only thing thats rabid is him and the brithers.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 amMedia Matters will run ad campaign on CNN condemning Dobbs’ birther sympathies.
– - The answer to Obama’s birther issues is clear; the man was born twice.
Added bonus: The Christianists will love this.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am@Badmoonman
I know you’re trying to make them look ridiculous (though they don’t really need help doing that, do they?) but in an off-topic yet still interesting twist, it is, in fact, possible to be born twice. Just not in the way you insinuate….
Anywho. It’s neat. Here’s a link of an example:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 amhttp://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/24999650/
So if he was born twice, then guess that would make him a born again Christian, wouldn’t that make him ok with the right wing wackos.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 amSo lemme get this straight. Those of us who refuse to buy into the whacko conspiracies are people with an “extreme partisan viewpoint”? And those of us who accept that President Obama is a natural born American citizen are “rabid left-wingers”?
Does this mean the Republican Governor of Hawaii is now a rabid left-winger with an extreme partisan viewpoint?
OK — this has gone from amusing to completely insane.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 amsmidget says:
I know you’re trying to make them look ridiculous
Anywho. It’s neat. Here’s a link of an example:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/24999650/
– - No, no, no. You cannot win over Birthers, the GOP or the Christianists by presenting scientific evidence to support your view.
C’mon, pay attention. :/
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 amNote to Lou Dobbs: When you fall into a hole, the first thing you do is STOP DIGGING!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 amAs much as I cringe at the thought of disagreeing with such a charming beetle, I still think it is hilariously amusing in that special sort of zany way that I so enjoy…
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 amRabid Righties.
Lou Dobbs.
Michell Malkin.
Billdo.
Blech.
Limpballs.
Insannity.
Tell me again why I should give a shit what ANY of them say.
Void of rational thought or true compassion, these idiots yell loud enough to get heard. That’s all that matters.
Today, it’s not the message; it’s the volume of the message.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 am
smidget says:
Anywho. It’s neat. Here’s a link of an example:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/24999650/
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
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Fair enough, but I doubt the technology was available for that kind of procedure in Hawaii in 1961. And definitely not in Kenya.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 amROFL! @Badmoonman.
I wouldn’t dare try to present facts to support my case. Just thought I’d throw out a neat little tidbit, since you brought it up. :)
@missmolly
Duh. Did you miss my post entirely? Only dirty commie librul hippies use facts to make a point. So of course those of us with the audacity to accept that multiple government officials are correct are rabid left wing extremists. I mean, only a rabid left wing extremist would automatically assume that someone involved in the government isn’t incompetent simply because they’re a government worker. Only a rabid left wing extremist would examine the evidence and apply logic and reason to arrive at the answer.
Everyone knows a “real american” just simply flies by the seat of his pants and runs on gut instinct, including that part of his gut that says that there’s no way a black man in the White House is on the up and up.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 amAmericasBack says:
I will put my faith in the majority of people to see them as they really are – absolutely stupendessly stupid morons.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
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Never underestimate the power of absolutely stupendously stupid morons, and the throngs of absolutely stupendously stupid morons who follow them.
While we’re talking about the “majority of people,” don’t forget that only 40% of the U.S. population believes in evolution.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm#17: AmericasBack says:
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“The one thing I’d like to see is people (sane people) getting louder. We need to spread the word for people with rational minds to speak up. Evil happens when good people do nothing (I forget who said that – Probably Ben Franklin?)”
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
It’s a statement attributed to Edmund Burke, but it’s believed to have originated Leo Tolstoy’s book “War and Peace”.
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
See the following for detailed info:
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 pmen.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke
I’m just glad people are finally starting to notice and understand that Dobbs is a phony hack. For years, Dobbs has been pretending to be an independent. And for years, like clockwork, Dobbs has been popping up right before national elections to helpfully explain why there is no difference between the candidates. If you remember, he couldn’t see any difference between Gore and Bush or between Kerry and Bush, thereby making it a little easier for independents to go for Bush. And, of course, he hated Clinton. He’s that kind of “independent” who always seems to go republican when it’s time to vote.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 pmPeople like Dobbs are either hard core republicans or just plain racist. I watched The Jack Van Impe show last night, for those who don’t know Van Impe, he is a religious zealot who preaches gloom and doom and the rapture. Last night this quack gushed over Ronny Raygun, saying what a great leader he was by standing up to the Soviet Union.
Van Impe then went on to say we need a leader like that today, not one who befriends Obama Bin Laden, the Taliban, Iran and Russia.
So I sat there and listened to this religious/political bullsh*t and I was wondering if Jack enjoys his tax free ministries and is he suggesting we just nuke all of our enemies? It seems to me that war is the answer to everything to some of these “Christians”
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 pmWhy are they running the ad on Fox Comedy Channel? Are they trying to boost Dobbs’ ratings?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm#22 – chiroptera toasterhead says:
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“Never underestimate the power of absolutely stupendously stupid morons, and the throngs of absolutely stupendously stupid morons who follow them.”
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I’m reminded of:
“You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time.”
Methinks that the right-whiners fall into their own category of fools: “all the people all of the time”. ;-)
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pmHow about, “You can fool all of the fools all of the time”?
PEACE
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pmOf course Van Impe conveniently left out how the Rayguns seeked the advice of Astrologist Jean Dixon a no-no for Christians or how under Raygun the CIA armed, aided and trained the future Taliban and Al Qaida while committing much blood shed on innocent people in Central America through illegal CIA psy-ops.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pmGreat ad. Bill Maher was right in that we have to go hard after these birther idiots and expose them. Yes they are whackos but this nonsense can spread. They can’t ignored the way John Kerry did with the swiftboaters.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pmThe racist just can’t deal with a black man as president so they fabricated this story that the birth certificate must be a phony. It’s the pacifier and comfort blanket for the scared ignoramuses so they don’t have to walk around sucking their thumbs.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 pmActually GregM, these idiotic birthers just need to be ignored. The more people who come out and call them idiots the more of a conspiracy they will believe Obama’s citizenship is. We along with the democrats need to focus 110% on a public option in health care reform.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm“Racially charged paranoia” is beautiful. It manages to sum up the complaint without resorting to name calling. I think it’s a pretty good ad.
Lou Dobb’s response is, typically, just an ad hominem attack, but the thrust of the attack is interesting. By labeling his opposition “left-wing” he is implicitly siding himself with the right-wing.
Not much of a revelation, but one wonders in his coverage of this story, some of his immigration screeds, and his anti-union activities if hasn’t completely lost objectivity as a news man. I personally think he’s gone senile.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pmwatchdog says:
only concerned with pushing a political agenda over the truth.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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Ahh, yes. Kind of like every post you’ve ever made.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pmWatch dog and the far righties fear Media Matters because they fight back against the right wing propaganda and lie machines like the Fox entertainment channel.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pmI stopped watching CNN about two years ago when they allowed Dobbs to blame Mexicans for everything that’s wrong with this country when we all know it’s trailer trash racists bringing us down.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm‘Rabid left wing extremist’ is a term O’Reilly loves to throw out there a lot. Funny, I don’t believe very many ‘rabid left wing extremists’ are on the DHS domestic terrorism watch list like the right wing extremists are.
Of course right wing extremist groups are racist and full of hate and use murder, intimidation and violence against their fellow Americans. How patriotic…… *rolling eyes*
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pmwatchdog says:
Media Matters is like Green peace on crack in regards to political activism. only concerned with pushing a political agenda over the truth. Just like TP.
Odd. Media Matters actually documents everything, including posting actual transcripts or video/audio recordings — in context. It’s difficult to see how this would get in the way of “the truth.”
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pmOh noes! Watchdog has EXPOSED our crack-addled whale saving agenda! WHERE ARE OUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATES!?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pmSame with me Shayne. I admit I used to watch Dobbs before he seemingly went to the dark side. He used to be right on about outsourcing our jobs but since his viewer numbers have dropped it appears he feels he needs to pander to the lunatic fringe of the ultra right extremists in the republican party now.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmSorry Watchdog, but every comment you and like minded neanderthals like you, Rush, Drudge, Malkin and the Fox entertainment channel attacks Media Matters you give them credence. But thanks for playing.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pmonce again watchdog will try to shoot down the messanger while ignoring the message.
President Obama is a natural born citizen. Lou Dobbs is pandering for ratings. Facts support both statements.
with a moniker like “watchdog” I wonder what you really watch dog?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pmwatchdog says:
The only people who give the wackos any credence are sites like this and people looking for validation for their indoctrination.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
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What, exactly, is “wacko” about pointing out the hateful, divisive, and frequently false things that people like Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh say? It’s not like Media Matters is even putting out their own content – they’re just repackaging the verbatim words that the right-wing hatemongers say every day. How is that indoctrination or political agenda?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pmYeah, you are allowed to post here.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pmwatchdog says:
This snobbish dribble reminds me of a video…. Oh yeah this one.
Bill Maher says America is a Stupid Country
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
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And?
What’s incorrect about that?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 pmPRICELESS! I know Lou Dobbs must be mad as heck that an ad was run against him on CNN – where he works! LMAO! Just what this jerk deserves for catering to the lunatic birther fringe!
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pmAmericasBack says:
I know, I know. But toasterhead, I really think that the 40% will grow and grow in the near future (at least I hope so). As I said, people are becoming more skeptical. How can a skeptic believe in Zeus? …I mean Jesus?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
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I hope so, too, but I’m not very optimistic. I’ve yet to see any evidence of reason triumphing over superstition.
And speaking of Zeus, there’s been a recent resurgence of Hellenic traditions in Greece.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pmI cannot help but laugh. Hell, if I didn’t laugh, I might cry out of sheer frustration. I work with the lunatic fringe who believe that Obama was born in Kenya. I debunked the whole birth certificate from Kenya (which they gleefully told me had magically surfaced over the weekend) and they called me insane for believing the truth. They even said Kenya was part of South Africa which compelled me to hoist the globe from my office down to their offices and point out that Kenya was no where near South Africa. I’m surprised they didn’t tell me that Obama was responsible for remapping the world.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmSubliminal message ran on the Fox entertainment channel:
War is peace…
Freedom is slavery…
Ignorance is strength…
It seems to be working, but I’ll report, you decide. :)
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmPerhaps Lou Dobbs needs to produce his Mexican wife’s birth certificate to prove that she is a legal citizen.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pmwatchdog says:
Lou Dobbs is a raciest because he dares question Obama.
Typical liberal attack nothing new here.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
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Wrong, idiot. Nobody is making that assertion, or we’d all be racists every time we question Obama’s stance on prosecution of Bush officials or single-payer health care or DADT.
Lou Dobbs is a racist because of his consistent attacks on Hispanic people and culture, and his new-found allegiance with the white nativist movement in pushing the birther conspiracy theory.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pmAm I reading that right? Does watchdog recognize that Dobbs is indeed a wacko (”The only people who give the wackos any credence are sites like this”) and that someone needs to call him out for it?
Well done TP!
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pmleave it to the watchpuppy coward to defend ignorance
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pmCute yet unaffective tactic used by the racists on the right. Some one on their side uses blatant racism and they turn around and accuse those who call them on it racist. Sorry, but you racists have been using the race card the very day that Obama announced that he was running for President.
You miserable and despicable human beings just can’t get over the fact that an intelligent, black man is in the White House.
I’m sure had Hillary won the presidency you would be posting misogynist comments all over the blogosphere. You people are just hateful, bitter people.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pmTruth hurts. Doesn’t it Dobbs. Good to see your ratings drop. So is this the reason why you pander to racist birthers since that’s all you got left? Doesn’t it suck that Media Matters are running their ad ON THE NETWORK YOU ARE WORKING FOR? Suck it up jackanus.
And Watchpuppy,
Media Matters is like Green peace on crack in regards to political activism. only concerned with pushing a political agenda over the truth. Just like TP
How is Media Matters pushing a political agenda when they use actual video footage and actual transcripts from your “agenda” driven right wing nutters?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 pmWe are a stupid country, there are idiots out there who voted twice for George W. Bush. If the republicans had control over our country for more then 10 years I believe our nation would become as stupid as the people in the comedy movie ‘Idiocracy”
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 pmwatchdog says:
Because they disagree with your warped vision for this country? What a ridiculously naive a statement. You and your ilk think they are superior because you have been told your ideas are.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
No. Because only 1 in 3 of us have a bachelors degree. Because 13% of us haven’t finished high school.
Because 60% of our population doesn’t “believe” in evolution.
Because one in three of us can’t name our state’s governor.
Because 90% of our young people can’t locate Afghanistan on a map.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pmwatchdog says:
Lou Dobbs is a raciest because he dares question Obama.
Typical liberal attack nothing new here.
What else can it be but racist. Has any POTUS before this ever have his citizenship questioned?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pmHey watchdog – take a look at this:
Now tell me. Are we a stupid country? Or is knowing that it takes a year for the Earth to travel around the Sun just “liberal elitisim”?
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pmwatchdog says:Lou Dobbs is a raciest because he dares question Obama. Typical liberal attack nothing new here.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
The whole Birfer schtick is a coded dodge, whereby folkkks who hate the idea of being bossed around by “ni88ers” can mimic the avidity of your forebears cheering a lynching.
As to “All that’s needed for evil triumph is for good people to do nothing”???
Right…I’v heaqrd that copdswallop all my life. Good people can do all they want but as long as the bad people have the guns, money, property and power, it aint gonna make phuck all for difference.Pray peacefully in one hand and shgoot a hole in the other and see which one bleeds…
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pmchiroptera toasterhead says:
Now tell me. Are we a stupid country? Or is knowing that it takes a year for the Earth to travel around the Sun just “liberal elitisim”?
I suspect watchpup thinks being able to count without using fingers and toes is “liberal elitism”.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
vigor says:
Could it be that there’s “other” proof?
Your “other proof” has already been debunked, dimwit birther.
The Republic of Kenya did not exist before Dec 1964, before that is was the Dominion of Kenya. The Kenyan “birth certificate” is a forgery. The Hawaian one is the real one. Idiot.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pmvigor, that’s a lot of words to paste just to prove you’re a moron
Obama HAS produced his birth certificate. Only loons would believe this OBVIOUS forgery.
Here’s a hint: In 1961, the date on the forgery, it refers to the “Republic of Kenya”, which wasn’t established until 1962. Before that, it was the Dominion of Kenya, as shown on all documents.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pmvigor is lying, he does not have the original
the issuing state keeps the original and only provides certified copies
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 pmForgery @ 76.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pmHave the birthers become so desperate to the point they have to make a fake birth certificate to create the illusion they are telling the truth when the opposite prevails?
When that blows up in their faces, what other alternative do they have left? Assassination of the first African American POTUS?
These people are dangerous and Homeland Security should take note of these neoKKKon birthers.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Intrepid says:
Have the birthers become so desperate to the point they have to make a fake birth certificate to create the illusion they are telling the truth when the opposite prevails?
The latest forgery was produced by that wacko dentist/lawyer woman who has been feeding this frenzy for some time. I wouldn’t be surprised if she hadn’t forked over some significant money to someone in Kenya for the document and I also wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she believes completely in its authenticity — she’s that much of a loon.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pmThe birther movement is crazy. Dobbs should let it go.
Media Matters concludes it’s ad with ‘there’s nothing legitimate about racially charged paranoia’.
What has the birther movement have to do with racism?
There are partisan conspiracy theories associated with many past Presidents. The Clinton Cronicles, for example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Chronicles
Partisanship has been going on forever. Why should we expect it to happen to Obama?
Are progressives confusing partisanship with racism?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pmHey Vigoracist, can you provide for us your Original birth certificate from the state you reside in?
Wake up vigoracist. The state keeps the original in archives and can’t provide it to you. They will only give you a copy of it. That is the law. That’s the way it is.
The so called Kenyan birth certificate is a forgery. How desperate you racist birthers have become to the point you have to forge a birth certificate that does not actually exist.
Does it feel good to be a traitor to the USA?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pmI said it wrong. Should have been: ‘why shouldn’t we expect partisanship directed at Obama?’
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pmThe latest forgery was produced by that wacko dentist/lawyer woman who has been feeding this frenzy for some time. I wouldn’t be surprised if she hadn’t forked over some significant money to someone in Kenya for the document and I also wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she believes completely in its authenticity — she’s that much of a loon
I’m not surprised Gummble. Desperation is what desperation does. Liars are what liars do. Birthers are what birthers do. Racists are what racists do.
They must’ve had a sale on tinfoil at Walmart.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
vigor says:
Hmm. A link instead of a talking point. Well, it must be some pretty conclusive proof. Let’s see. *clicking link*
“a WorldNetDaily Exclusive”
You lost me right there and then.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pmvigor says:
Woo. Should be exiting when the truth, the truth that has been crushed to the ground, stands back up.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
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Which truth? The fact that you birthers are all white-nativist racists who can’t accept a black president?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pmbut I’ve also got a the original
No you don’t. The original is on file in the county of your birth, just like the originals for every single person born in the United States of America is in the county of their birth.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pmOrly Taitz is an immigrant. She should be prosecuted for forgery and any other applicable crimes and DEPORTED. She can take Lou Dobbs with her.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
watchpoop, stupid people don’t know they’re stupid because they’re, well, stupid. And racist people don’t understand racism because they’re racist. In short, you wouldn’t understand.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pmVigor,
You are too stupid to be posting anything online. Please take your computer back to where you bought it and tell them you have a PEBKAC error.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pmvigor, nice try. I know it’s hard to admit you’re a birther but nobody is fooled.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pmWow, looks like we’re going to have to let a lot of pot smokers out of prison so we can house all those Bush supporters. We can start with the Supreme Court justices who forcibly installed him and the officials of Florida who didn’t count the votes starting with Jeb. Then there’s all those Fox folks who sold the propaganda that got us into Iraq …
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm@backup
No, it’s racist. I don’t like to call people racists unless they prove that they are racist, but this isn’t a partisan attack, it’s an attempt to make him come across as a Manchurian Candidate, an illegitimate President.
When as the last time there was a significant portion of the population that claimed a President didn’t rightfully hold the Presidency because he wasn’t a natural citizen of the US? Yeah, never.
Calling him a socialist is partisanship.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pmPretending like he’s ultra-liberal is partisanship.
Acting like he’s not an American citizen despite all evidence to the contrary and not a single shred of proof otherwise is racist.
backup says:
What has the birther movement have to do with racism?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
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The birther movement is connected with the white nativist movement, which emerged after the civil war to protest against the citizenship granted to former slaves by the 14th amendment:
http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/white-nationalists-prepare-to-oppose-obama-administration/
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pmWhy hasn’t the president silenced all doubters once and for all?
Oh, you mean like releasing his birth certificate and getting it validated multiple times by officials?
Yeah, that didn’t shut idiots like you up, so tell us – what the f uck would? Oh, that’s right. The only thing that would shut you up is if all of sudden he was WHITE.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pmvigor, is the Republican Governor of Hawaii a traitor?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pmHey Lunatic @76 – There is no record of a Barack Hussein Obama being born in Mombasa on August 4, 1961! In fact, Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar in 1961 NOT KENYA! Give it up fool!
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pmvigor says:
Treason is very difficult to prove, but it would easily be proved against the supporters of a President who isn’t qualified to be president.
You might need to be thinking about your defense.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
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I highly doubt our justice system is even capable of rounding up and prosecuting all 50,456,002 people who voted for George W. Bush in 2000.
Good try, though.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pmHey Arn Gannutes – I’m wondering too because Palin DID NOT look pregnant – Pictures are worth a thousand words!
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pmbut it would easily be proved against the supporters of a President who isn’t qualified to be president.
Well, if that’s the case, why isn’t the 27% of the country that thinks that George Bush did a good job on line for the firing squad? After all, he didn’t win the election, and was therefore not the rightful President, yet I didn’t see anyone calling his supporters traitors, just idiots.
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vigor could go online and see Obama’s certified Hawaiian birth certificate, along with testimonies by the hospital attesting to it’s authenticity, the Republican Governor of Hawaii’s assertion that it is indeed authentic along with the two local Hawaii papers that announced the birth. vigor could also ask itself, if Obama was not a citizen of the USA, how both Clinton and McCain could not find a shred of proof when both of them so desperately wanted to be POTUS? Or vigor could look at an obvious forgery, one that has been debunked up and down the interwebs all day by both Dems and Reps, and swallow the bullshit hook, line and sinker. I wonder which road vigor will head down…
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pmNo, the birthers aren’t racist because they’re white, they’re racist because they can’t bring themselves to believe that a black man got into the White House legitimately.
Clarence Thomas was voted against by Democrats because he’s a conservative. Color has nothing to do with it. The Republicans that vote against Sotomayor will do so, primarily, because of ideological differences.
When one of them stands up and claims she’s an illegal alien without any proof of it whatsoever, then they are probably a racist.
It’s okay if you don’t understand the difference.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm@vigor
Yeah, he’s seen the original birth certificate. The one that is kept on file in Hawaii, just like mine is on file in this state and yours is on file in your state of birth.
The certified copy that was good enough for everyone in this country that isn’t a f ucking moron was issued by the State of Hawaii because they have the original on file, you nitwit.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pmbackup says:
I hear the argument that birther’s are racist because they are all white.
That doesn’t make sense to me.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
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Have you read my repeated responses to your question?
It’s not because the birthers are white. It’s because the people who started this whole birther bullshit conspiracy are white nationalists.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’m not saying that anyone who is a birther is a racist, but the movement is most certainly racist.
Actually, anyone who is a birther is an idiot.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmvigor says:
“Has the Republican Governor of Hawaii seen something that the American people haven’t seen? What would that be, and why haven’t the American people seen it?”
Doubt it vigor, I just figure the Governor isn’t the typical Republican conspiracy nut, drunk on kool-aid, hoping beyond hope that the scary black man will go away. Since you brought up legal documents and presidents, whatever happened to W.’s national guard records? Or the video-taped interrogations of detainees. Or the half-a-million or so e-mails that “went missing” from Dick Cheney’s computer? Now THOSE are some records that I’d like to see. Obama’s birth certificate? You find absolute proof that the certificate on record is a forgery, then we’ll talk. Until then keep searching the interwebs, I’m sure you’ll find plenty more forgeries to keep you excited and busy.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pmbackup says:
I hear the argument that birther’s are racist because they are all white.
That doesn’t make sense to me.
You wouldn’t acknowledge racism if your life depended on it. I’ve really never seen anyone who is so blind on the subject as you, other than mouth-breathing Klansmen.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pmSmidget,
I’d have to disagree with you on one point. The republicans that voted against Sotomayor are racist. Yes, they don’t like her because 1. she’s a woman 2. she’s not a corporatist and 3. she’s not white.
It’s the bloody trifecta for them.
And yes, to all the trolls, All Birthers Are Racist.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm“But, progressives want to paint any and all opposition as racist, for their own partisan reasons.”
That’s not true at all. This particular issue, however, has deep roots in racist. This isn’t opposition, it’s plain-old stupidity. Opposition takes place with regard to policy. These morons are suggesting that INS look into the President.
No matter what you say, it will never change the fact that this whole movement was borne of a racist, “no n—-r will ever be MY President” attitude, and the majority of those who espouse it do so for the same reasons.
That or they’re total idiots. Most are both.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’ll give you that Rich, though I would think that our Congresspeople would know better than to oppose someone due to their race if they intended on keeping their seats. But it wouldn’t surprise me at this point.
backup – I know you asked this of toasterhead, but let me just say that Lou Dobbs is racist for claiming that all immigrants are illegals that should be deported and then buying into this birther shit.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Okay, maybe he’s not “racist” per se.
But he’s DEFINATELY an idiot.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pmbackup
You are making attempting to make a parallel argument that doesn’t fit for one solid reason – when Thomas was up for confirmation, there weren’t any black Senators, so even if all 100 of them voted against him, all the senators who voted against him would be white.
I’m sorry, but you’re fighting a losing battle on this one.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
vigor,
a minor problem in your “proof” that Pres Obama was born in Kenya: The Republic of Kenya didn’t exist before 1964, as a quick search in the wikipedia shows.
Therefore, Pres Obama’s birth certificate could not have been issued in the Republic of Kenya in 1961.
If people are going to pay for a fake document, they should at least do a minimum amount of research… sheesh…
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pmI am aware of that.
Are you aware of this post:
smidget says:
Okay, maybe he’s not “racist” per se.
But he’s DEFINATELY an idiot.
I’m from the south. I can’t tell you how many people I know that have no problem with Hispanics whatsoever, but aren’t even remotely shy about calling our President a n—-r. Are they not racists, simply because they only hate ONE race?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“instead of immediately asserting that because birthers are white, they are racists,”
Except I have repeatedly told you that that is NOT what makes them racist.
Why do you insist on ignoring this?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm“every white person in America is racist.”
Wow, I should be surprised that you can’t f ucking read.
I have said, repeatedly, that birthers are not racist because they are white. That most of them are white is actually quite inconsequential.
That post had precisely zero to do with whether the birthers are racist because they’re white and was posted to illustrate that there is no requirement that you hate all races in order to be racist.
I also didn’t say they were my friends.
That was probably some of the most pathetic reading comprehension I’ve seen on one of these boards. I mean, you really are an idiot. And what’s sad is that you seem to actually be suffering under the delusion that you’re not an idiot. I don’t know where you go that idea from, but you need to wake up and smell the smoke coming out of your own ears.
But then again, what would I else expect from a moron like you?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pmbackup says:
toasterhead.
Let me ask you this:
Is Lou Dobbs racist because he’s sympathetic to birther claims?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
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Yes. He’s helping promote an inherently racist movement and is either sympathetic to or ignorant of its racist roots. That, combined with his constant drumbeat of anti-immigrant and anti-Hispanic sentiment, leads me to conclude that he’s racially-ignorant, if not racist.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
NO.
Some are racist, some are idiots, most are both.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pmLet me clarify:
Birthers can only be the following:
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm1) Racist. This will cause the birther to develop tunnel-vision, lending credibility only to sources that validate their own belief that a black man could not legitimately hold the Presidency. They needn’t be stupid (though all racists are inherently ignorant, else they would not be racist), just unable to accept a black President.
2) Stupid. This will make the birther unable to recognize that their arguments and points are not supported by any data whatsoever. They needn’t be racist to be stupid, just unable to understand that it’s not necessarily true just because the talking-box says it.
3) Both. This encompasses most of the birther movement.
Gregor Samsa says:
If people are going to pay for a fake document, they should at least do a minimum amount of research… sheesh…
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
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Well, that’s why they dated the fake document 1964, to try and get around this loophole.
Of course, it doesn’t explain why his parents would’ve requested a birth certificate in 1964 for a three year old Barack Junior. What were they thinking? Didn’t they know it would cause problems for him 45 years later?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
And this:
Those who supported the Clinton Chronicles were not accused of being racist; the Clinton’s are white.
Since the Clinton Chronicles are crazy conspiracies directed against the Clinton’s, I assume it’s a partisan effort.
I get the impression, however, that if the Clinton’s were black, those very same Chronicles would be attributed to racism and not partisanship.
Obama is the President of the United States. It would be naive to think that he would not be the target of partisanship. He’s relatively liberal or progressive and there are many people in the country that disagree with his ideas. Those people will engage in efforts to obstruct him. Regardless of his race. It has happened throughout our history. It will continue to happen.
Democratic partisans use Obama’s race to take the partisan charge to the next level. Racism.
But, they water down the charge in the process.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pmVigor,
And as soon as I move to China I’m going to get a Chinese birth certificate.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pmvigor: The certified copy of the birth certificate was made after the establishment of the Republic of Kenya, but the event to which the document attests took place before the establishment of the Republic of Kenya.
Let me get this straight. You’re willing to accept the authenticity of a newly-discovered CERTIFIED copy of a birth certificate from a foreign country, but not a CERTIFIED copy of a birth certificate from the State of Hawaii?
Why is that?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@backup
Not necessarily. What you are missing, and I’m not really sure why you’re missing it, is that the content of the attack is quite important to whether it is a racist attack.
Let me see if we can come up with an example that makes sense:
So, a guy works for me and I catch him taking a nap. I call him lazy, and fire him.
^Not racist. The critcism is based on a legitimate issue I have with his work ethic. This is tantamount to mounting an attack on a politician based on ideological differences. We may not agree, but the criticism is valid.
Same scenario, only this time I call the guy lazy even though he’s one of the hardest workers I have. The guy happens to be a Mexican immigrant.
^Racist. The criticism is based on my inability to analyze the evidence that is right before my face that proves my prejudgements wrong (that he is one of my hardest workers). The criticism is not valid, as it has no evidentiary basis, but is merely a stereotype or meant to draw attention to the supposed characteristics of his race.
While the birther situation is not exactly parallel, and you may still disagree that it is based in race, it is NOT partisan, as it is not based on any ideology to speak of, but rather a desire to make this President seem illigitmate, despite all evidence that he’s a perfectly valid candidate for the office.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pmsmidget. I appreciate you engaging with me.
Do progressives find the questioning of Obama’s citizenship racist, because they feel no one would question the citizenship of white candidate?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pmNo, the birther movement has nothing to do with opposition to the President.
Why do you insist on making this claim? Opposition to a President is, for example, calling his policies socialist. I don’t agree, but that isn’t racist, it’s ideological.
There is NOTHING ideological about the birther movement. NOTHING. There is NOTHING racist about criticizing a President, but this isn’t criticism, it’s stupidity.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm“Do progressives find the questioning of Obama’s citizenship racist, because they feel no one would question the citizenship of white candidate?”
Yes. That and the fact that the movement started with white nationalists.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:45 pmvigor babbles:
The certified copy of the birth certificate was made after the establishment of the Republic of Kenya,
You are still wrong.
The certified copy was made in February, 1964.
Kenya became a Republic in December, 1964.
Better luck next time.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pmvigor says:
The certified copy of the birth certificate was made after the establishment of the Republic of Kenya, but the event to which the document attests took place before the establishment of the Republic of Kenya.
They didn’t start new record books because the government became a Republic.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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And why did three-year-old Barack need a copy of his birth certificate in 1964?
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pmAddition to response to 142:
Also, please don’t assume that I mean “Republican Party” when I say “birther movement.” They are not one in the same. All Republicans are not birthers (though based on what I’ve seen and heard, it appears that all birthers are Republican).
Republicans are the opposition to Democrats. Birthers are the opposition to sanity. Please don’t confuse the two, as I certainly don’t.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pmsmidget. How can you claim it’s not ideological if the whole issue could be used to either embarrass the president or impede his agenda efforts.
That’s what I believe it is. Very few people really care where Obama was born. Birther’s are using the issue to fish for Obama information that could embarrass him or they hope for the holy grail that there is an outside chance there is a discrepancy and people will question his legitimacy.
It’s gutter politics, but it’s not racism.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm@147
OOOHHHH!!! SNAP!
If I could vote that up 10 times, I totally would.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pmDemocratic partisans use Obama’s race to take the partisan charge to the next level. Racism.
But, they water down the charge in the process.
Nice try at conflating The Arkasas Project with vague implications of false racism charges against Obama detractors. It’s almost as if you didn’t know that there was a concerted, billionaire-financed smear campaign directed against the Clintons for their entire term in office, and that some of the vitriol now aimed at Obama is definitely race-based. The Clinton Chronicles? Sounds like an effort to downplay all the slime served up by republican operatives bent on destroying a sitting president, by making it sound like a comic-book story.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pmImpede his agenda?
Woah, woah, woah.
This is not to impede his agenda. It’s to get him removed from office. Impeding his agenda would require way more substantive stuff than this. If Obama is removed, for example, it moves to the VP, who has the same agenda, and then if he’s removed, it goes to Pelosi, who has an even more lefist agenda. No no, this is not political, it’s personal.
It clearly can’t embarass him, because it’s patently untrue. Nor does it impede his agenda, as that is in the hands of Congress, who have affirmed that he is, indeed, a citizen. This is all about churning up the baser members of the population – the racists and the morons – with a clear aim: get this guy out of the White House, either via impeachment, a technicality, or in a coffin.
You really need to read the link that toasterhead posted in #100.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pmThank you, by the way, for the calm and rational discussion.
In the end we may have to agree to disagree, but your opinion on the matter is valid as far as I’m concerned, and I certainly see your points. I’d hope you’d grant me the same consideration.
You can’t have a conversation like this with someone like watchdog or RealityCheck. It’s nice to know that some people are actually adults.
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“You might want to check but I believe what has been shown on the InterNet is called a “certificate of live birth,” and it is not the same as a birth certificate.”
That’s completely false. It is, in fact, a birth certificate, and it is most certainly adequate to get a passport, as that’s the only such document that Hawaii issues and the President has had a passport for a long time.
But, hey, don’t let facts get in the way.
Just keep ignoring that there is no evidence whatsoever that he was born anywhere except Hawaii (excluding the obvious forgery you keep trying to pass off as legit for whatever reason). I’m sure it will make you feel better about your assertion that the President is intentionally damaging the country.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pmvigor says
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Why hasn’t the president silenced all doubters once and for all?
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OK, I give — what do you think the President should do to “silence all doubters once and for all?”
Oh yes — I heard. “Produce his birth certificate”. The original one. The one that’s supposedly sitting in the Hawaii state archives. Except:
1) That document isn’t Barack Obama’s to “release” — it belongs to the state of Hawaii.
2) The document doesn’t even exist anymore — at least not the original one. Hawaii converted their archives to all-electronic some years ago.\
3) Even if the original document could be produced, the birthers would still claim it’s a forgery.
So please enlighten us — if you think it would be easy for Obama to “silence all doubters once and for all”, how do you propose he should go about doing that?
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:07 pmI read #100.
Okay. toasterheads link attributes the birther movement with racists.
But, look up the issue on something like wikipedia.
There it’s attributed more to people like Phil Berg (moderate liberal also spearheaded anti-Bush truther movement) and Alan Keyes (black republican).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
Is it possible that birther opponents want to selectively point to known racists as the movements leaders to promote the idea that the whole movement is racist or was spawned from racists?
In the wikipedia account, there is little or no mention of the issue involving race. Because, it’s not racism, it’s partisanship.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pmvigor says:
You might want to check but I believe what has been shown on the InterNet is called a “certificate of live birth,” and it is not the same as a birth certificate.
And the difference you are trying to establish here is non-sensical: Fact remains Pres Obama couldn’t have been born in Kenya, then Hawaii, or viceversa.
One of the two certificates if a fake. Whether you decide to call them “Certificate of live Birth” or not is irrelevant -you still chose to believe the fakery over the legitimate document that has been certified as such by the Hawaiian Director of Health.
Believe I’ve read, probably on WND, that a “certificate of live birth” is not adequate to get a passport
Of course, we all know what a reliable source of information the WND is…
/sarc off
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pmvigor:
You might want to check but I believe what has been shown on the InterNet is called a “certificate of live birth,” and it is not the same as a birth certificate.
Believe I’ve read, probably on WND, that a “certificate of live birth” is not adequate to get a passport.
A certificate of live birth is exactly what is required for a passport. I have one issued by a county in Ohio, my wife has one from LA County in California and that is exactly what they are and exactly what is used for identification purposes, including getting a passport. In Oregon now you need one for a drivers license, even a renewal.
The Hawaii certificate has been validated by the governor and the state health director. All of this has been verified over and over again.
I’ll leave it to others to discuss your analysis of the President’s policies, because I really don’t have the patience to address such ridiculous claims.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:14 pmI tend to believe the article more than wikipedia for obvious reasons, but I already said I see your points as valid, I just disagree.
It all actually started with chain emails. The same kind that claimed that Obama was a Muslim, Hilary was a lesbian, and Bush was Satan (and equally ridiculous garbage).
I completely disagree that it’s partisanship, and i’ve made my reasons clear – because it has nothing to do with a political platform, and everything to do with making this President seem illigitimate. If derailing his agenda were the goal, trying to get him kicked out of office, thus opening up the era of Biden is a stupid way to go about it. Although, as I myself have stated on many occassions, they ARE idiots. So maybe you’re right.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pmsmidget. you’re fair.
We do agree the birther movement is ignorant and/or disingenuous.
I think we just disagree why.
You’re cool. See ya.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pmNo, not rabid Louise, just determined. TP is determined. You keep on calling them names if it eases the burning.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pmbackup says:
Is it possible that birther opponents want to selectively point to known racists as the movements leaders to promote the idea that the whole movement is racist or was spawned from racists?
In the wikipedia account, there is little or no mention of the issue involving race. Because, it’s not racism, it’s partisanship.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
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And some people read Playboy for the articles.
Are all birthers white nationalists? No. Are all white nationalists birthers? No. However, it is interesting how well the agendas of the white nationalists dovetail with the agenda of the birthers. I’d wager that a venn diagram depicting obama birthers in red and white nationalists in blue would have quite a lot of purple ink in it. Thats all.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:31 pmFor you vigor. ’cause I know you’re so vigorous in your pursuit of the truth…
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/polarik-declared-kenyan-document-a-forgery/
… when Free Republic’s self-proclaimed ‘document expert’ admits it’s a forgery you’ve kinda run out of plausible deniability… of course, that won’t stop you. I mean you ran out of that when the STATE of HAWAII confirmed that Obama was born there just like he (and his birth certificate) have always said.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pmvigor says
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Believe I’ve read, probably on WND, that a “certificate of live birth” is not adequate to get a passport.
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At least you indicate where you get your information. You might want to broaden your horizons a bit.
A “Certificate of Live Birth” is what I have — as does every person born in the state of California, as I was. This document was sufficient for me to get my first driver’s license, my first passport, my Social Security card (this was back in the days when we got our SSN at the time we got our first job), my registration to vote, and my entrance into the U.S. Navy.
This is what California issues to their natives to prove they were born there, and when. And it’s accepted by the federal government, the military, and the U.S. State Department as being sufficient proof of that.
Hawaii does the same thing. Barack Obama has managed to get through all of the same life events I have (except for serving in the armed forces) with the same documentation.
Millions of other people get passports and other things where they have to prove their citizenship with the same documentation.
How did you get your passport? Or do you have one?
Oh, and that thing about Obama visiting Pakistan on some other country’s passport because Pakistan was on the State Department’s “no-travel” list and Obama couldn’t have possibly traveled there as an American? Totally debunked — mostly because Pakistan wasn’t on a “no-travel” list in 1981. Check it out:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
I think if you do the research, you’ll find most of the other points you claim to have “heard” or “read” are just as made-up.
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pmWhen I read the remarks of “backup” and “watchdog,” and then think about the question of whether or not we are a stupid nation, I just have to laugh.
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 pmAnd then there’s “vigor,” who somehow believes that if you call an official document a “Certificate of Live Birth,” it’s not a “Birth Certificate” even if the legislature and the Governor of the state in question says it is.
Vigor, you should be a good source for an answer to the question, “Are we a stupid nation?” What do you think?
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pmHere’s a good counter-approach to undermine the Birthers:
Have you heard of Orly Taitz, the person who got the soldier to stay away from combat because he didn’t want to follow Obama? She’s a leader of the birther movement and has gotten airtime on the Colbert Report and MSNBC (and most likely Fox News). If you’ve ever heard her speak, her accent makes Arianna Huffington sound like a southern belle.
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pmWe should spread around to the racist birthers (so, most of them) that they have a “fer-ner” leading them around, trying to get us to lose faith in our duly elected President. Enough of a spark, and they’ll spend more time on in-fighting than anything else.
I’m not in favor of boycotting Dobbs because he holds a position that is way off base.
However, as a reporter he is a vital link in supplying vital information to the public. So if his insane theories persist despite facts presented to the contrary, then he is showing a lack of skills necessary to being a balanced reporter. If he acts on this, then he is tarnishing the already tarnished name of CNN and should be held accountable, including firing.
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pmI am beginning to suspect birthers either 1) don’t have children and haven’t seen a birth certificate, 2) don’t have a birth certificate of their own, 3) have never applied for a passport. Or maybe all of the above.
How else to explain all the idiocy about a live birth certificate not being a valid certificate, and other equally inane rants?
And there is more on the fake Kenyan birth certificate here:
THIS JUST IN! Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate (OOPS! Wait a minute…)?
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pmWhat sort of “birth certificate” is required for a passport?
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html
Apparently not everything called a “birth certificate” by a state qualifies as “birth certificate” as far as the state department is concerned.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pmvigor babbles:
What sort of “birth certificate” is required for a passport?
The information in the Department of State’s website notwithstanding, your “proof” is still a fake, and Pres Obama’s birth certificate has been deemed legitimate by the Director of the Hawaiian Department of Health.
Just admit you were wrong and go away, birther. It’s embarrassing, quite frankly.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 pmSay, viggie, have you seen Trig Palin’s real birth certificate?
Why do I ask? Well, because Some People Say™ that Trig is actually Bristol’s.
I’m waiting!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:31 pmSo vigor, if Obama is one of them illegals, why did the CIA, FBI, Secret Service, et al. give him security clearance?
Answer that so I can flag you and vote you down again… :-)
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:32 pmApparently not everything called a “birth certificate” by a state qualifies as “birth certificate” as far as the state department is concerned.
That may be true… Obama’s birth certificate does qualify as far as the state department is concerned.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
The more you know…
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pmModerate Man says:
So vigor, if Obama is one of them illegals, why did the CIA, FBI, Secret Service, et al. give him security clearance?
Because they are part of the vast liberal conspiracy to destroy the US from within?
Come to think of it, the Department of State would also need to be part of the conspiracy. I mean, how else would Pres Obama have obtained a passport with a fake birth certificate?
It’s the end of the world as we know it!
Oh, the humanity…..
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm#154 vigor,
The story about a supposed travel ban to Pakistan in 1981 has already been debunked. Such a ban did not exist. And below are a list of just some of the problems with Obama’s newly discovered “Kenyan birth certificate”:
Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 pmMombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.
Obama’s father’s village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.
The number 47O44– 47 is Obama’s age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44–he is the 44th president.
EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.
Believe I’ve read, probably on WND, that a “certificate of live birth” is not adequate to get a passport
Then what is, numbnuts?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pmLora says:
EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.
Heh. This is just too funny.
Whoever put together this fake birth certificate must be laughing his head off…
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 pmI can’t remember why I ever thought Lou Dobbs was intelligent, though I had as terrible time trying to convince a client of mine that CNN is NOT liberal.
He’s a nut. He needs to stop drinking and have his medication adjusted. This birther stuff is insane.
August 4th, 2009 at 3:21 amSeems now theres beyond shadow of a doubt (as if there ever were any doubt) the Kenyan BC is a bad fake. The template for the forgery is an Australian birth certificate
http://politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099
Birthers response? The Australian birth certificate is a hoax! A pretty clever hoax considering Obama must have had it made and posted on the Internet way back in 2006 according to web cache archives
August 4th, 2009 at 4:52 amVigor says: Did you know that Barack Obama’s parents concealed the location of his birth because they knew he would grow up to be President? What? Of course it makes sense, I’m a birther!
There. Fixed all your trollturds with just one post!
Anything you say stemming from utter stupidity makes sense to you.
August 4th, 2009 at 5:14 amBE CAREFUL OBAMA!! The last time Chuck Norris denied reality, it temporarily ceased to exist. Chuck Norris is after Obama….(seriously)…
August 4th, 2009 at 5:35 pmhttp://quearrozconmango.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/be-carefull-obama-the-last-time-chuck-norris-denied-reality-it-temporarily-ceased-to-exist/