Steele Distances Himself From Town Hall Mobs: ‘We’re Not Encouraging People To Be Angry’
Steele Distances Himself From Town Hall Mobs: ‘We’re Not Encouraging People To Be Angry’
This afternoon, ThinkProgress was on a conference call hosted by RNC Chairman Michael Steele. In response to a question from The Washington Times about protests inside health care town halls, Steele distanced himself and the RNC from the protesters:
STEELE: I had nothing to do with that, I did not encourage that. And we’re not encouraging people to be angry I mean to the point of being nasty and brutish and ugly. That’s not what this is about. There’s no upside for the Republican Party or the people involved to do that. Now some people, you know, that’s how they express their frustration, that’s how they express their frustration. But that’s not something deliberately coordinated by me or any one state party.
In condemning these disruptions, Steele placed himself at odds with a number of other Republican leaders. Recently House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) promised that House Democrats would have a “very, very hot summer” when they had to face their constituents. Today, in fact, he even sent out a “GOP Leader Alert” that seemingly promoted the mob attacks on his colleagues:
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) has gone even further, bluntly telling the press that the time for polite town halls is now “over.” The NRCC also sent out a jubilant e-mail recently that praised the disruptions as “recess roasting.”
Steele may be distancing himself now, but in the past, he has embraced astroturfing tactics. In 2006, the Maryland GOP bused in homeless people from outside the state to hand out flyers on behalf of Steele, who was incorrectly identified as a Democrat.
The Washington Independent’s David Weigel, who was also on the call, noted that Steele said the stock market improving is a direct result of Democratic legislation slowing down in Congress.
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Bring it on repugs, you mindless morons are going down.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pmMichael Steele is a coward. He always runs for cover once his astroturf tactics start generating controversy.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pm.
The last Town Hall meeting I saw run by G(no)P…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFuhTa0Z_Mg
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August 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pmHe HAS to be a hypocrite, or else the Republicans will throw him out of the party.
It’s a prerequisite.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pm.
LIE-CHEAT-STEELE
The “NEW” G(no)P!
.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm.
So,
Mike Steele doesn’t support the direction of the G(no)P?
Funny.
.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pmNice try steele but you wanted to be the engieneer on this crazy train and now you get to ride it along with the rest of the GOP right off a cliff.
Your a fall guy…get it?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWhen someone is killed, and they will be, from these racist mob tactics, I just want assurances from our Dems that they will go on every show, every night, for weeks on end, and make sure to blame the GNOP and the fomenting pundits for everything that’s happened.
No one else is to blame but the hate mongers of the White Wing. And ironically, Mikey, you’re included in that group.
PEACE
August 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pmimagine tracist trying to intimidate anyone
rofl
he pees his pants over fictional threats just because the right wingers on the radio successfully terrorized him into being afraid
no-one is scared of these whiny pansies, no matter how loudly they yel
August 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pmSteele proves once again that he is an out of the loop puppet who doesn’t bother to read what the few remaining elected Republics do and say while Tracist finally admits to favoring mob rule when the voters turn his party out. Just another day in wingnut land.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pmthese astroturf “protests” are nothing more than temper tantrums by childish, gullible, right wing, ignorant stooges
the media lies to them about the bill and their party tells them to riot, so they whine and disrupt and try to shut down dialogue
they ALL act like Bill O’Reilly
what a bunch of pansies
August 5th, 2009 at 6:16 pmYou don’t see steele telling them to tone it down, now do you?
Tracy5, you’re a as$hole…but you get told that all the time.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pmOnce again, the stupid troll confuses “these guys” with his guys. The “guys” he talks about are, in fact, the ones who listen to reasoned discourse. His “guys” are the ones who still need a big shock to wake them up.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm***
rt,
i think tracist trying to be intimidating
would be like watching george costanza trying
to talk his way out of a traffic ticket.
*
sad and funny all at the same time.
:(
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pmTracy__5 says:
Well otherwise they don’t “get it”. Talking nice just goes in one ear and out the other with these guys.
There you have the mentality of the Ugly American. If they don’t understand you (which means if they don’t agree with you), raise your voice and keep shouting, because that’s always so effective.
If shouting doesn’t work, bring along a baseball bat.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pmI hope tracist tries to make good on his threats. I would enjoy the hell out of that.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pmhe better bring more than a bat, gummble
I’m just sayin’….
August 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pmLook what you have done Repugs! You have unleashed the dogs and they are starting to bite. Oh, Now you will walk back and say,”Hey, It wasn’t me!” but it’s too late. You own this. This is your creation. Live with it. And when somebody get hurt or worse, DIES, it is on YOUR heads. Already, Americans are wise to this ruse. It’s the same old, white people who made the ‘Tea-Bag Parties’ infamous. The ‘Birther’s’ whom you claim don’t speak for you (But they do!) It will be a long, hot summer for you, Repugs. try to stay cool.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pmSteele: “And we’re not encouraging people to be angry I mean to the point of being nasty and brutish and ugly.”
Um, YES YOU ARE! (What a liar Steele is!) Repubs, GOP, Repub pundits, Repub lobbyists, Fox,(the Repub propaganda network)– are ALL encouraging right-wing wackos to be angry, disrupt, scream, drown out, & basically derail any meetings about health care in particular. They’re telling (& probably paying) a bunch of right-wing extremist white people (home-grown terrorists, it seems) to attack anything Obama suggests. Racism? Yes. Anti-Americanism? Absolutely. Preventing others from participating in the democratic process? You betcha. We’ve all seen the videos, we’ve all seen the REpub emails, we’ve all heard the Repub pundits all call for disruption, anger, & hate. Please don’t deny it– you already look like a fool & this just adds to it. And all those GOP/Repub clips, emails, etc.– they’re ALL recorded forever. You’ll never be able to hide from the GOP orchestrated hatred & disruption of democracy. Repubs have revealed themselves as the hateful, ignorant, petulant, bullying, lying “party of no”. No improvement, no change, no honesty, no love of country, no facts, no plan, no suggestions. And no pretense whatsoever of honoring the American Constitution.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pmamazing how gullible these morons are that really believe the lies coming from FOX and the rest of the right wing mainstream media
they never factcheck, even though it is easy to do
they never even consider the effect all the ads that are purchased from the news media channels by pharmaceutical and health insurance companies has on the coverage of the issue
ignorant and stupid, they are the ones outside the castle yelling “it’s ok, everybody! we can just eat cake!”
(sorry for the repost, bad tab management in Firefox on my part, doh!)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pmFor decades, the Right has made a huge issue of how Leftists don’t believe in free speech, because a few of them show up at campus speeches by Ann Coulter or John Bolton and are disruptive–yelling at the speaker until they get tossed out. The Right has been claiming for years that this proves that the Left isn’t interested in real dialog and not willing to listen to other points of view.
And now we get organized disruption on a grand scale, and the Tracy’s of the world argue that this is perfectly appropriate behavior, because otherwise no one will listen.
Doesn’t that seem a little, uh, hypocritical?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm… w o w . . .
that IBD copy is … … alternate universe…
fascinatin’…
August 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
gummble, hypocrisy is the primary plank in the Republican platform
August 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pmlol, pretty sad jay, you can’t argue against the actual program, so you make sh!t up
typical lying republican pansy
August 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pmIsn’t it astonishing that the GOP/Repubs have absolutely NOTHING to offer as a plan, suggestions, alternatives? Nothing! Why do we listen to a loser group of people whose only contribution to “improving” the country is hate, fear, lies, disruption, screaming & smears? Why does anyone care about this hysterical, whining, lying group of cry-babies? They’re like 1 year-olds who had their soother taken away. (I actually wrote 2 year-olds first, but realized Repubs aren’t that mature)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Public Service Announcement:
Hey Teabaggers, if you’re hot and bothered and want to yell like imbeciles, please share your outbursts with your own representative in your own district. Don’t come to my district to spew your spleen to my representative.
Tip: you’ll catch more flies with honey than with your sh*t-flinging, so remember your manners, like your momma taught you, even with your own elected representative.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pmyah, you did, jay
lied right through your tooth
August 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pmWhich means, in a-holese, “no one should criticize the loudmouth sockpuppets who are shouting down these meetings”.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pmLiar liar pants on fire.
From Google: No results found for “report anyone who is speaking against Healthcare reform”.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm**
from frances to flag to earl turner to jay.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
CNN must prefer to cover the mob rule at town hall meetings — they refuse to air an ad targeting the insurance industry.
The network — already taking criticism for declining to run an ad criticizing Lou Dobbs — is now refusing to run an ad nationally criticizing the insurance industry…
CNN’s reason: The ad “unnecessarily” singles out a top insurance industry executive by name for criticism.
The labor-backed Americans United for Change tried to book time on CNN and MSNBC for the ad, which hits the insurance industry for wanting to preserve the status quo and levels harsh criticism at insurance giant Cigna’s CEO, Ed Hanway.
“Why do insurance companies and Republicans want to kill health insurance reform? Because they like things the way they are now,” the ad says, and then slams Hanway’s annual salary of over $12 million and golden parachute retirement package of over $70 million.
CNN emailed the following reason for rejection:
“This ad does not comply with our clearance guidelines because it unnecessarily singles out an individual company and person.”
That very well may be CNN’s policy…
AUC argues, the industry is made up of companies that are run by individuals deciding how to spend huge money to impact the health care debate — so why are they off limits?
“The bottom line question is: Would CNN run ads from Cigna that are positive about the company?”
“If yes, why would they turn down an ad critical of the company for their role in trying to kill health insurance reform?”
MSNBC will run the ad starting tomorrow.
BTW, rumor has it that Dobbs is looking at moving to Fox – don’t have any idea if it’s true, but he’d be more “at home” there.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pmTracy__5 says:
Well otherwise they don’t “get it”. Talking nice just goes in one ear and out the other with these guys.
ok… sorry, but i heard a guy whining about this earlier on randi…
(was that YOU? wahwahwah)
i’m still trying to figure out what the gripe is, and i gotta know…
who is “they” and “these guys”?
what has been on the righty mind these past 8 years of the
HUGE MESS that President Obama, who just happens to be black,
is trying to clean up…?
really… what is the gripe?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pmjay says:
Your source is freerepublic? Ever wonder why no one takes you seriously?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm#34 flagged and reported for spamming
jay thinks anything at freerepublic is credible
that shows how ignorant and gullible he is
wow
August 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pmSteele is a HACK! Always has been and always will be. Oh, and BTW – ALL REPUBLICANS are hacks.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pmAll of these hand-wringing Republicans need to do is get on the phone with Dick Armey and tell him to stop. Since they are not doing that they simply want their cake and eat it to.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pmmarie, only FOX viewers are gullible enough to believe CNN is liberal biased
CNN has been right wing since the first invasion of Iraq back in Bush Sr’s run
August 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm***
freerepublic.com?
oh well then it must be true.
:)
thank you frances/flag/earl turner/jay
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pmFreeper alert…
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/04/freeper.gif
August 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pmSo, McCain announced his displeasure via ‘Twitter’ WOW! That will show em! No public statement, no angry press release. What a lack of guts. Kind of like his ‘No’ vote on Sotomoyer. Bad idea McCain. I don’t know how many Hispanics or Latinos live in your state, but I would guess it’s a lot.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pm***
kay,
that’s jay alright.
*
after he went on his diet.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pmLOL Joe Cantwell! I couldn’t decide if that was him or if he was this ‘moran’…
http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/teabag-the-freeper.jpg
August 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pmKay, I’m going to get you for that. And you owe me a new keyboard.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:49 pmLOL Gummble-bee-itch! *waving* Just up here in Maine having a little fun on behalf of the knuckle draggers! ;-)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay says:
As usual your posts show what a brainwashed moron you are. The government isnt TRYING to take over health insurance MORON. At MOST they are going to offer a public option. Since you are basically too stupid to ever know what you are talking about why do you bother to embarass yourself so often?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay,
suck my d|ck.
:0
August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pmTommy, I remember that it was the Gulf War that gave CNN its place as the 24/7 news channel.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pmI remember thinking at the time that it was glorifiying the war, making it almost surreal.
So although they made me uncomfortable at the time, they have sunk to new lows of late with their censorship, their support of racist hosts, and their right-wing bias in reporting ( one need look no further than reporter, Candy Crowley).
Ok now I am convinced that McCain is going to retire. First he says he votes no on Sotomayor losing Hispanics, now he ticks off the hard right by criticizing the town hall shout downs. Who is left that might vote for him down in Arizona?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Jay and the Tracist are part of the problem, anyone got a can of Raid?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pmCan’t subtract enough Karma on this Jay thing.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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wiz,
ernest t. bass.
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August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pmjay says:
Of COURSE you are brainwashed. You show that every time you bring your weak stupid ass here to humiliate yourself. The government ISNT trying to take over health care. If we are lucky we will get a public option. What part of this are you too stupid to understand?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm***
jay,
no, you’re not brain washed.
*
you need a brain to be
brain washed.
.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm51. PaladinofPeace says:
No one has enough tin foil for your hat.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
here’s another example of stupid people…
another caller was b!tchin’ about the new jobs in elkhart -
“it’s an RV town… they don’t make batteries!”
no kidding! he was b!tchin because the jobs were different!!!
reminded of that – watching ed/lawrence – on the prez trip there today…
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm***
ha, ha, ha.
your “link” didn’t work.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
PaladinofPeace, WRONG. The people at these town hall meetings listen to Glenn Beck in the morning and at night, they listen to Fox News, and they run to their basements in fear every time Sean Hannity screams, “Socialists!”, after clicking his jackboots together at George Bush’s picture every night. These people are mainly dumb, uneducated, buffoons who are love fear because without it, they can’t explain what is going on, don’t know how to get to the truth (and Beck & Fox refuse to give it to them!), and only know how to react and their response to what they’re hearing (lies) is fear which is making them react. Fear is the fuel to their irrational rage! They have no idea they’re being lied to, they have no idea how they’re being used by the very people who always screw them over in the end, and they just don’t understand the basics of anything. Hell, these are the people who think they understand the laws of our country and claim they’ve read the US Constitution! Wrong! They have only heard Beck’s, Fox News’, and Hannity’s version of the Constitution and we all know what that is: PURE GARBAGE!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
PaladinofPeace says:
I am sorry you are such a moron. That really isnt our fault. IF they are just people pissed off then why are they being COACHED on how to be pissed off and how to act at these meetings? Why do they DISRUPT the meetings instead of having their say? If we are NOT the majority why did we KILL you morons in the last election RUNNING ON THIS ISSUE? Why do ALL the polls show that Americans want a public option and overwhelmingly want universal healthcare. If we arent the majority why arent these people satisfied with having their say why are they bent on disruption why were they coached to spread out to make their numbers look larger why do they have to be ENCOURAGED by rightwing screechmonkeys to get out and do these things. I am pretty sure you are too stupid to ever be able to think for yourself and Rush will NOT give you the answers to these questions so I dont really expect any cogent answers. Consider them rhetorical questions
August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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ha, ha, ha.
spokeswoman is one word.
.
you can “report” yourself,
if you want.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pmRealitydick thinks the majority of Americans are joining him and bush into wrecking the country. You lost jackarse, leave now!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pmjay says:
You are a moron. You wouldnt know the truth if it bit your nutsack. Cough up the legislation that will give the government control over healthcare or STFU.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm***
rc,
jay is twajie.
here’s a picture of his girlfriend.
:\
cute, no?
:/
August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Ernest T. x 2
yep – that’s a popular uprising all right!
“best give up – they done surrounded us agin. damn that heroic Glenn Beck and his red dawn squadron!!”
August 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pmGeorge Bush & Dick Cheney are to blame for the division in our country. After 9/11 they should have used the day as a way to point out that not all Muslims are evil suicide bombers. They could have said liberals are not to blame for 9/11. But they didn’t. They let their right wing bullsh*t fester for 8 long years while they burned America-Rome down and now that we have a president in office who wants to effect change in a positive direction…..THE DIVISIVE NEOCONS ARE BOLTING FROM A POSITIVE REALITY! Idiots.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pmRealityPunk
Of COURSE I will call you names MORON. You are stupid beyond all human comprehension. Too stupid to even KNOW how stupid you are. So you are reading minds now? You are saying their agenda is to do something there is no legislation to allow them to do. Look you are always going to be too stupid to think for yourself and Rush isnt ever going to tell you the truth so regurgitating what you were told to think is all you will EVER be capable of. Keep showing up though I LOVE to laugh at people as stupid and brainwashed as you.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm***
the gf is the one
on the right.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pmIt’s too late Steele – The GOP now OWNS this problem. All signs point back at the GOP as the fuel on these crazies fire!
Paladino – BS – It’s not their intention to offer solutions and be heard – their purpose is only to disrupt the townhall meeting!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pmjay says:
You dont understand anything. You are too stupid to understand tile grout. Which one FreeRepublicansewer? I am not interested. The other link was to the white house saying they are NOT going to take over health insurance. My GOD you are stupid
August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Linda Douglass as usual speaks the truth:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pmMcCain: “we should allow everyone to express their views without disruption”.
Talk about a generic, non-specific disclaimer. No mention at all of who these people are, or the fact his disgrceful party
is responsible for them.
He might as well have said both sides are guilty.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pmRealityCheck says:
Give em hell Jay
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Kill yourself moron. It will make the world a better place an nothing else someone as stupid as you will EVER do can make the world a better place. You racist, inbred, piece of garbage troll.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm***
twajie,
select, copy and paste.
computer illiteracy is holding
movement conservatism back.
*
microprocessors are such liberal things.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pmNeocons, can you please explain to us why the health insurance industry would be against a public option? And please tell us why the corporate lobbyists for this industry would be using you neocons to keep a public option from happening….
August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pmExcuse me, but when exactly is someone going to point out that the elderly, anyone 65 or older or anyone with a disability, is already on Medicare. Why are these people included in the discussion and/or why would someone complain about govt run healthcare when they already have it? Call me Spock but this is illogical or bat shit crazy insane, take your pick.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm***
btw, your link still doesn’t work.
.
got any “kenyan birth certificates”?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pmJ from your link MORON
In this video, Linda Douglass, the communications director for the White House’s Health Reform Office, addresses one example that makes it look like the President intends to “eliminate” private coverage, when the reality couldn’t be further from the truth.
So you link to a white house site explaining how they are NOT trying to take over healthcare to show us they are trying to take over healthcare. Are you really this stupid or are you a lefty trying to make the right look like morons?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pmjay says:
The proof is in the link.
You mean the link where Linda Douglas and Pres Obama repeat over and over that the public option is precisely that -an option?
And where they also say nobody will be forced to give up their current health plan, and that nobody is trying to eliminate private health-care providers?
That link?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pmjay says:
Yeah it is you are just too stupid to understand it. You wouldnt know a fact from a cowpie
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pmFacts are a stubborn thing for the neck drooling knuckle draggers to understand, because these neck droolers listen to Glenn Beck, Fox News, Hannity, Billo, Lou Dobbs (married to an illegal alien), and other wingnuts, which means they’re getting a daily dose of lies, deceits, and distortions, because without these 3 things in the mix, progress in a positive direction will not happen! They want the status quo which is costing businesses and the insured outside employment too much.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
If only Jay would end his and other repugs existence, what a beautiful world that would be.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pmJay
You are so stupid it has gone from funny to sad. So its like Nazi Germany for the white house to tell people to send them disinformation on healthcare so they can give out the facts? You are stupid. You are so stupid it is physically painful to read the stupid in your posts.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pmSo what you’re saying is you liars are feeling bad because 76% of Americans want to out you on your lies, deceits, and distortions, because we are interrupting YOUR BULLSH*T?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
May I remind the neocons on here tonight:
THERE IS SUCH A THING AS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER ACT.
AMERICANS CAN OUT OTHER AMERICANS.
ANYONE CAN ASK THE PUBLIC FOR HELP IN SETTING THE FACTS STRAIGHT.
THE END.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pmjay says:
My GOD you are stupid. How is it turning in your neighbor to send them emails? Are you REALLY that bone ignorant? When they say give us the name and address of your nieghbor when he is saying bad things about healthcare get back to us until then you are nothing but a moron giving us a free clown show.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pmjay says:
Report those who dissagree with you. 1939 all over again.
Wha?
It’s just so they can address the misinformation, you comprehension-challenged twit.
Fear, loath, and paranoia are strong with this one…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pmAccording to the wingnuts, it’s illegal for the FBI to post pictures of the Most Wanted and ask the public for help in tracking these a-holes down.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pmGeorge Bush asked the American people to be vigilant in looking for the terrorists in their neighborhoods. Any complaints from the wingnuts? Nope! Just a bunch of jackboots being licked and clicked together in response!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm***
“Report those who dissagree with you. 1939 all over again.”
or 2001.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pmCons are on the run, truth will overcome their lies. These townhall blowups are backfiring already.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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we do,
you don’t.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm***
ha, ha, ha.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm76% of Americans want the public option. 76% OF AMERICANS WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM IN TURNING YOUR ASS IN TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR LYING YOUR PHUCKING ASS OFF TO TRY TO QUASH THE PUBLIC OPTION!
How’s that for facts, You Factless Twit?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
KayInMaine says:
Yeah Kay but the FBI isnt going to show up at the door of people sending these e-mails. If that was the point they would just have the FBI looking for the emails and doing it already. They want people to SEND them emails so they can address the misinformation TO those people
August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pmjay says:
Now be a good follower and report your neighbor. You have an email address in the White House to send it to now.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
1) The email message forwarded would only have the sender’s email address -which is not necessarily tied to an actual name and street address.
2) Sending it to the Director of Communications ensures they can address the erroneous information and set the record straight.
So you don’t want accurate information? Funny how reichwingers rarely do…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pmMeanwhile, the wingnuts are creating fake companies to send out letters to Congressmen & women to dupe them about the public option! Oh, but Jay is fine with this because it’s a criminal act. Right Jay? It’s just an email to the White House saying Glenn Beck is a lying sack of crap that makes you cry like a little 4 year boy!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pmYesterday, I was having a perfectly polite conversation with another poster and jay rather bizarrely accused me of “intimidation.” He seems to be a deeply frightened individual. Trolling here is likely the best he can do to assert control over a situation in which he feels powerless, poor thing.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pmjay says:
Right.
<<<
Of COURSE it is right. You would have to be an ignorant brainwashed moron like YOU to think anything else.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pmI know silly. I was just trying to make the point that the White House (government) is not resorting to 1939 Hitler WWII techniques as Jay was stating when we already have the FBI doing the same thing with the public (asking for help, tips, etc in giving information about other Americans etc). That’s all.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pmSteel is like Sgt. Schultz in Hogan’s Heroes; he knows nothing, he sees nothing and hears nothing. The rest of the Republicans are deluding themselves into thinking these protesters are going to accomplish what the Republicans in Congress could not. The health care bill is going to get passed with or without Republican votes. It is time for the Dems to lock out the Republicans on legislation until they act in good faith.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pmTrollspotter says:
Yesterday, I was having a perfectly polite conversation with another poster and jay rather bizarrely accused me of “intimidation.”
“Intimidation”? Over the interwebs?
Wow.
After all my “intimidating” replies to him, Jay must be peeing in his pants…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
***
this site can help you learn how make
and use hyperlinks. give ‘em a try.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pmI love how Jay listened to Linda Douglass on the video above with his fingers in his ears. This is what the neocons do who support Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs (married to an illegal alien). The only time they pull their fingers out of their ears to listen is when they’ve got either Glenn or Lou on (or some other white supremacist on). Oh, but when the truth is being told, THE OLE FINGERS GO RIGHT IN THE LOBES AND THEN TWO SECONDS LATER THEY’LL SAY, “I didn’t hear that. Because I didn’t hear it it means it’s not true!”. See? Imbeciles.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pmJay, post all your facts out now for all the statements you made above. I want page numbers and everything else you got.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm“Calm down little girl” ~ Jay
Spoken like a true neo-Nazi. Fact.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
actually – something good, finally, from a trooll dropping:
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
thanks jay!
you still got a thumbs down from me… too… also… also too…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm***
jay,
no one’s coming to your house.
no ever comes to your house.
remember your ninth birthday?
no one came to that either.
calm down.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Jay you moron she just didnt realize you were too uniformed on this issue to NOT know this widely reported poll
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/obama-boost-new-poll-show_n_217175.html
New poll numbers from NBC/Wall Street Journal produce two major and potentially conflicting story lines when it comes to the Obama administration’s efforts for a health care overhaul. On the one hand, the American public overwhelmingly favors a choice between getting insurance coverage either through the private market or a government run option. Indeed, 76 percent of respondents said it was either “extremely” or “quite” important to “give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance.”
August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pmUh Jay? Moron? No one is going to come to your house if anyone reports your bullsh*t to the White House. What will happen is the White House (or Linda Douglass) will see a pattern of lies being told to the public by you, Beck, and Dobbs (married to an illegal alien. No birth vault certificate viewed publicly yet) and the White House will then post a piece on their website pointing out the truth WITH LINKS TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS.
See how that works? It’s kind of like a poll. If they get 8,000 emails about how “President Obama is going to use guns to kill old people when they reach the age of 79 to keep health care costs down” out of 10,000 emails, well, that would be the moment they would want to GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!
Get it now, Scaredy Cat of Everything?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pmSure you are.
And sure you were.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pmjay, honestly, every single post of yours that I’ve read has been filled with fear, desperation and resentment. I feel bad for you. There’s so many more productive things you could do with your time than cry for negative attention here. It’s a shame you’re as broken as you are.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pmjay says:
No you arent intimidated just because you get your head handed to you every time you venture here. You are too stupid to care. Looking like the moron you are is just another day for you
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
As usual, Kay speaks the truth and the neocons say, “Kay is out of control! Do something!”.
I love this. You neocons are so easy for me and everyone to manipulate you into showing your true colors. You’re afraid of the truth because once you get it, you can’t face your family & friends, so it’s easier to keep believing your own lies because admitting you’re an as* is too much for you to bear!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm**
“thugh”
“Hey,someone”
nervous fingers, jay?
*
no, you’re not “intimidated”, are you?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pmI see it trollspotter. Good eye. I’ve seen this kind of thing before. It’s sad.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pmJay, post all your facts out now for all the statements you made above. I want page numbers and everything else you got.
I’m waiting!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay,
i’m glad you understand,
that’s big of you.
***
still you should have some friends
you can share your extra special
thoughts with, shouldn’t you?
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pmjay says:
The thumbs up/down feature is direct democracy. We all know how much you fascist morons HATE democracy
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pmjay says:
Back up the 76% statement with some facts please. We do deal in the facts here right?
Well, how about this link:
In the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, 76% of respondents said it was important that Americans have a choice between a public and private health-insurance plan.
Why We Need a Public Health-Care Plan
Would you like to see the survey too?
It’s only been in the news for the last week or so.
You’re welcome.
(Of course, with your reading comprehension problem, these figures might not mean much to you)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay,
never…?
:)
so you didn’t pay your taxes
this year. how brave of you.
:\
August 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pmpoor jay, he totally got beaten down on the other thread. So badly that he abandoned it. I feel kinda bad. Maybe Jay will just leave and let it go.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pmJay wet the bed last year but he’s moving on just like his hero George Bush.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pmJay, what has Michael Steele done for the republic party that has been beneficial? I’d love to know the answer.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pmjay says:
All the sane people see it that way Jay. You ARE a moron though
August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pmUmmmmm Jay? *pointing down*
Jay, post all your facts out now for all the statements you made above. I want page numbers and everything else you got.
I’m waiting!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pmSorry, jay, you tell on yourself with every post, and you can’t possibly get me upset with you. All you have is my pity.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pmPublicly steele is distancing himself from the tall hall mobs.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pmBehind the scenes he is their loudest cheerleader.
“Poor Jay is dead a candle lights his cannonball head”….
August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm***
does the rnc give you
a nickel every time you
use the word “amusing”?
**
it’s really not a power word
you know.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pmJay = pond scum = ignorant = self denial.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pmHey Jay, tomorrow on your lunch break at K-Mart, you can create your own Kenyan birth certificate here:
http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/
Isn’t that neat? It looks awfully familiar doesn’t it? Bah hahahahahahahahaha! I bet Michael Steele wants to quit as the head of you imbeciles.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay.
he wasn’t intimidated by anyone here.
he just has something in his eye.
*
let’s give him a moment
to compose himself.
:(
August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pmOoops. Meant to post Gottalaff’s Kenyan birth certificate (she used the generator at #154 to do it) for Jay to see:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/08/05/generate-kenyan-birth-certificate/
August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm***
#155,
copy and paste.
paste and copy.
**
is that all you got?
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pmSorry, I meant town.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pmHey Jay! You might want to put on an astronaut diaper ’cause it’s gonna be a long night baby for ya!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm***
look jay,
a kenyan birth certificate!
*
fetch!
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pmjay says
You are a liar and a fool and so stupid it is embarassing. She said that and I knew what she meant she then posted that 76% of Americans WANT a public plan and you ridiculed her saying she had no proof. You are nothing but a worthless punkass troll. Begging us to pity you like Lush moron since you are a sad pathetic excuse for a bipedal carbon based lifeform
August 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm***
kay,
they’re called “dick armey pants”.
all the really cool republicans wear ‘em.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pmLOL Joe Cantwell. Dick Armey pants! Bah hahahahahahaha!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pmHey, Jay is an ignorant piece of garbage and so stupid it is amazing he can feed himself but I havent seen any evidence that even HE is stupid enough to be a birther
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm‘We’re Not Encouraging People To Be Angry’
Absolutely no sign of discouraging the behavior.
Ha!
For this the GNOP will further destruct and decompose.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pmSteele said,
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pmThis is a lie. We already know that the fascist theocratic Republicans are coordinating the town hall tea parties. Not that we need any more evidence that Steele is lying yet again, but it’s just another nail in the wingnut coffin.
Inside Jay’s twisted brain:
Jay, I highlighted the relevant words so you might see them. How does “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.” become “report your neighbor” or “report those who disagree with you”?
How does giving the White House the opportunity to respond to distortions (”fishy”) about health care turn into 1939?
You really need to cut back on the airplane glue, Jay.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pmjoe cantwell says:
*
*patting laugh tears from my eyes*
HIGH-sterical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hey Gummble, guess who has been saying things like, “1939!!!!”, “They’re coming to get ya!!!!”, and “This is no different than what Hitler did!!!!!”?
Glenn Beck.
Jay obviously worships Beck and hangs on his every word when the lying sick twisted freak speaks.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm**
damn we lost jay.
rc, we lost jay.
*
there goes our “hell”.
**
damn.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pmJay, provide the actual link to the actual bill so we can find the actual page you’re “having actual trouble with”. Thanks “patriot”.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pmjay says:
You are too stupid for the higher brain function thing. There isnt A bill there are as of now three different versions and more to come. NBC IS a credible source. You are a moron. We get that to you FreeRepublicanSewer is a credible source but NBC isnt. That isnt even SANE. You are stupid Jay, no one takes you seriously anyway but its taking stupid to the level of dementia to just slam a decent source like NBC just because you are a brainwashed moron
August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm***
jay,
ah, the voice of orly taitz.
(”do my work for me!”)
forget hyperlinks.
remedial reading.
give it a try. good luck.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pmjay babbles:
Nice post but it has nothing to do with Kay’s post.
Do you find challenging to follow an exchange you initiated?
Let see.
KayinMaine said “76% of Americans want the public option.”
You retorted/babbled with “Calm down little girl. So you have no basis for your statement. Is that a Kay fact?”
At which point I provided the links to the article in the Wall Street Journal and the survey -but it has nothing to do with Kay’s post?
You have some serious reading comprehension issues…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pmjay says:
In the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, 76% of respondents said it was important that Americans have a choice between a public and private health-insurance plan.
Why We Need a Public Health-Care Plan
Not very credible sources especially NBC. No bias there.
The Wall Street Journal isn’t credible to you? The right wing Wall Street Journal now owned by Rupert Murdoch isn’t credible?
freerepublic is credible but the Wall Street Journal isn’t?
Your desperation is exploding everywhere, Jay.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pmjay babbles:
Not very credible sources especially NBC. No bias there.
Please point to a problem with the methodology in the survey.
You may have a point when/if you do.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm***
what we know so far.
jay hasn’t read the bill.
jay never pays the bill.
*
cheap basterd.
™
August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm*
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Jay demonstrates that talking truth to stupid, as Bill Mahar says, is always frustrating.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm***
“fishy”
is a certain kind of smell.
*
you’ve never had a girlfriend,
have you?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pmjay says:
Oh my GOD you are just so stupid. IN a discussion about misinformation about healthcare you want to know what fishy means? OK. you are just being a troll. No one could be that stupid and remember to breathe. Notice they arent telling you to send them to Homeland security but the white house information office. IF they wanted to go after people like in your tinfoil hate paranioa. They already have the resources to check e-mails and they could be sending the FBI aftter those people already. You are too stupid to be believed.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pmHow many of these dickweedy, twafwaffle shit-weasels are up for re-election in 2010? I will set aside money to send to their opposition. We don’t have time for this non-sense, and there is way too much at stake to have flat-earthers and birthers in Congress.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pmjoe cantwell says:
——————————————————————————–
***
“fishy”
is a certain kind of smell.
*
you’ve never had a girlfriend,
have you?
<<<<<<<<<
He has never had critical thinking skills either
August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay,
speaking of libraries,
do you even have a library card?
*
because (if you do) it means “they”
have your name, address, phone number
and social security number.
* *
knock, knock jay.
“they” are coming to your house!
:0
be afraid.
be very afraid.
overdue books could
land you in…
a gulag!!!
:(
August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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I was out of town overnight, and watched some television in a hotel room. Television is bizarre as ever, and CNN is heinous. It’s like mean high school girls reporting on the latest rumors and propagating some of their own. How far journalism has fallen since Walter Cronkite and Ed Murrow. It doesn’t deserve the name “journalism”.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm***
“I didn’t think that the freerepublic was unbias…”
this is classic twajie.
***
oh reality check,
your boy’s going off the rails again!
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm***
switching from “amusing”
to “funny”.
*
no nickel for you.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pmJay,
We are all going to report you to the White House, and we are going to show them everything you post here.
They are probably going to realize that you pose a clear and present danger to the security of the United States of America, so they are going to have to arrest you and put you in a wingnut concentration camp for the rest of your life.
Pleasant dreams Jay
August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm***
levi’s right jay…
would you rather make license plates
or work in the laundry room?
???
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pmJay: And once again, I’m sure you see things that way. The wallstreet Journal isn’t always a reliable source and NBC is too bias in what they report.
I know NBC is your darling network here. All that truth.
I didn’t think that the freerepublic was unbias so I backed it up with the White House site. I understand your concern though.
So you confuse NBC with MSNBC, you toss out the WSJ because you don’t like the result of their poll, and you “back up” freerepublic (only after being challenged) by completely distorting the video from the White House site. Why would anyone pay any attention to your claims?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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the way jay sees the world.
*
“see ya” = “i’m intimidated”
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pmNot particularly. But it’s really important to your self-esteem to pretend you have some power. That’s the main reason why I pity you, jay.
Good luck with all your troubles.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm***
jay,
i’m glad you feel honored.
share that feeling in the prison shower,
ok?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pmjay prattles:
And once again, I’m sure you see things that way. The wallstreet Journal isn’t always a reliable source and NBC is too bias in what they report.
And once again, you have failed to point to any problem in the methodology used by WSJ/NBC, or provide a link to a poll that contradicts it.
Until you do, all you babble is just that -babble.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pmActually Jay, hitting the thumbs down for you trolls is the same thing as hitting you on the head with a garden rake. You’re just too stupid to realize this.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pmYep, my “76%” was connected to the same 76% that is the percentage of the public that wants the public option and the same percentage rate that will have no problem reporting widdle Jay-Jay’s lies, deceits, and distortions about the public option to the White House.
Jay, provide the link of truth to your point that when someone emails the White House with one of your right wing lies, you will get a visit from the police. Surely you must have a White House link to back your statement of “fact” up with!
By the way, speaking of truth and links….
*pointing down*
Jay, post all your facts out now for all the statements you made above. I want page numbers and everything else you got.
I’m waiting!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pmjay says:
Funny. Nothing important to post I see. Amusing stuff though.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Of COURSE I have nothing important to post. I am answering YOU. You have never made a cogent point or argument in your life. You are a low level moron
August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Jay, what’s the current percentage of the public that wants the public option?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pmjay says:
No not everyone who disagrees with me is a troll. I am giving you the benifit of the doubt. That even YOU couldnt possibly be this stupid so you must be trolling. You never heard of something sounding fishy? REALLY? You are a moron but frankly I just dont believe even YOU are that stupid. You know what sounding fishy means. My GOD, even for a troll you are breathtakingly stupid
August 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pmJay, the libs are going to reopen Gitmo for wingnuts like you. Welcome to life in a 4×5 foot cell. I wonder if you will still think it was worth it after your first year.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pmjay says:
Huffington post CITING A POLL BY WSJ and NBC. That was weak even for a moron like you. I took that one because they had a link to the poll. You are stupid Jay. Humiliatingly stupid. What is astonising is your capacity for self delusion. You actually think you are making a point. Even for YOU that is astonishingly ignorant
August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI always enjoy it when a troll claims that a negative response to a comment means that he’s “hit a nerve”.
I bet jay used to gloat whenever he got a “D” on a term paper, because he’d obviously “hit a nerve” with his teacher.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm***
“you poll”?
:)
bye,
and have fun
“you poll”.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pmjay loses it:
First thing, “The Huffington Post” get real and your poll was taken in June and updated on 06/18/09.
Er… June is the 6th month… what is the name of the 6th month in wingnutland?
If you had bother to click on the link provided in the article, you would have found out it is the same WSJ/NBC poll we’ve been talking about all along.
Finally, two months ago -”ancient history”? Wow, seems like you got hit buy the Teflon Brain Syndrome.
You really have no idea what is being discussed here, do you?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm***
ralph,
the equation is simple,
whenever jay is around other people
he always hits a nerve. no one ever
wanted to sit next to him on the bus.
***
soon he learned to feel “honored”
by that fact.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pmOh, I strenuously disagree, Eugene.
I think the amount of ignorance displayed here is well within jay’s established pattern.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pmJay probably only recognizes the English language on his best days.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pmJay, you have got to be one of the most moronic, slow-witted, fact-free, and self-deluded conservative poster to ever wander his way through the “series of tubes” onto ThinkProgress.
Our collective IQ drops a point or two every time your babble posts on any thread.
I would be surprised to find out you can walk and chew gum at the same time…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pmralph the wonder llama says:
Probably so.Jay reminds me of the Stephen King quote from It. I want to thank you. Sometimes I think I have plumbed the depths of human stupidity. It is nice to be reminded that it is truly a bottomless well.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Jay,
They are going to put you in a FEMA camp for the rest of your life for your treason.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pmI bet if Americans were polled today about the public option, it would be @ 89% now.
Jay, do you know what the current rate of Americans who want the public option is?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pmJay, CAN YOU POST THE LINK TO THE HEALTH CARE BILL? Thanks pal.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pmjay says:
J you are staggeringly stupid. You are stupider than the hair on a barbershop floor. The poll backs up her claim. The fact that even after being led by the hand through something that would be obvious to any reasonably bright six year old you STILL dont get that only shows how incredibly stupid you are. It isnt nonsense just because it shows that once again you NEVER know what you are talking about. The poll shows that 76% of the people back a public auction and if you think things have changed that much in the last two months then cough up the poll that shows this or STFU if for no other reason than to stop humiliating yourself. Do however keep snivelling like the punk you are about our name calling after the contempt dripping from your posts talking about out dribbling and such. You are a punk. You are rude and contemptuous of us then its WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH you guys call me names WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH what a pathetic punk you are.
We actually ARE as smart as we think we are. You are also as STUPID as we think YOU are. We dont HAVE a lack of intelligence just because you are so incredibly stupid you cant even RECOGNIZE intelligence much less display it.
As for you. I dont love you or hate you or even think anything about you at all beyond the pity I naturally feel for anyone as stupid and pathetic as you.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pmas seen on The Daily Show 8/4 -
HEALTH CARE DEBATE:
KEEP IT STUPID, SIMPLE.
simple… aka jay…
i had to quit at the 150s… the stoopid, it hurts…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pmjay prattles:
I did and it seems that Eugene didn’t and neither did Kay.
They were using it to back up their nonsense statement of 76%
It seems you didn’t. Or you did but you have no clue how to look for information.
But I can understand why a simpleton like you would expect to to find big, red, blinking arrows pointing to the data in question.
It certainly is when you are using a poll to back up your nonsense.
No, it isn’t. It’s the most recent poll.
As I said before, if you have a link to a more recent poll or data that contradicts it, let’s see it. Until then, you are just babbling.
What would you do without the name calling and BS to back up your lack of intelligence?
You obviously don’t realise how rich this statement is coming from you…
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Jay said above he’s read the whole entire health care bill and knows he’s right, but yet, I’ve asked him throughout this whole thread to post a link to the bill he read and to the pages he’s referring to above where he says he’s right and says we are wrong.
So Jay? You obviously have the health care bill bookmarked, so you could easily post a link to the bill for us. Thanks pa.
Oh wait.
Jay has not read the bill, but he heard Glenn Beck say that Beck had read the bill from the first page to the last, so anything Beck says about the bill is TRUTH.
*banging head on desk*
You neocons are so pathetic. After 6 months of Obama being in office, you’ve completely lost the cannonball that used to sit teetering on your necks during the Bush Regime.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pmJay, we want to read WHAT YOU’RE READING! So, post your link for us.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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I can never figure out why people who are ostensibly trying to support an argument refuse to provide the backup information that others request, even though it would purportedly make their case stronger.
It just seems counter-intuitive.
But then, that’s jay. Counter-intuitive, counter-intelligent…
August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pmjay says:
Ask your frinds here for the link. I’m sure they all have it except you.
We are making some progress -it seems you have trouble learning how to use “the google”.
Now, where in the document does it say that this administration seeks to eliminate private insurers?
And you do realise this is not the final version of the bill, don’t you?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
STEELE: I had nothing to do with that, I did not encourage that.
<*nod-nod-wink-wink*> “We didn’t encourage the brown shirts. They did it themselves without our (explicit) direction. But you’d better watch what you do, watch what you say….”
Cheers,
August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pmjay prattles:
Oh well, maybe you can do your own research.
Or maybe you can have evidence at hand before you type your random blatherings.
I mean, it only took you about three hours to find one version of the bill.
It seems like the version of “the google” available in wingnutland is either very slow or too complex…
August 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pmYanno, when I’m debating with someone in a forum like this and I make a claim for which I have backup, I don’t generally play coy with the link. If I know it buttresses my case, I’ll gladly provide the link, and often I’ll excerpt a relevant portion of it to boot.
You see, I would rather make my argument and its factual basis as easily understood and accessible as possible.
But that’s just how I roll.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pmI knew it. Jay has not read the bill. Surprise surprise! Spit.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pmI’m going to a town hall so I can taser someone like Jay for threatening me. Thank goodness legal, non-lethal means of self-defense are now widely available.
Frat-boy pr firm interns like jay are the skeeziest people I’ve ever come across. The type of guy who in high school bragged up the $ he made selling nude pics of his own sister.
Later on, at bath-time, you tell Mr. Burns I said hi, ok Jay?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay,
still here?
“Great egos but not to bright.”
**
did we “hit a nerve” with you?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Here’s a good starting point for anyone who is honestly curious about what’s in the proposed legislation. Some of the summaries are more readable than others so I’ll just leave it to you.
BTW. I have not read the Bill. That’s impossible because no single, consolidated, bill exists as yet. But, I have perused two of the summaries.
http://www.google.com/search?q=health+care+bill+summary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.pclinuxos:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pmjay says:
No that was in a speech by Obama.
Evidence, facts, links?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pmAfter going on all day and ruining this story – Jay asks you to apologize.
Now that’s funny.
What a loser.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pmThe rethugs are employing classic fascist tactics and they should be called out for it. These thugs are a 21st century incarnation of the Nazi brownshirts. They shout down their opponents and spread big-lies about Obama and health care reform. As Goebbels said, “if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it…”
August 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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thanks pete.
dig in jay.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm***
jay,
you forgot to write “precious”.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pmSo let’s recap:
jay embraces a statement made by the President a year ago as current gospel, yet rejects the findings of a poll less than two months old that has yet to be superseded by another.
That’s about par for jay’s course.
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(oh, and jay conveniently neglects to include the completion of the then-candidate’s statement:
If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system,” Obama told some 1,800 people at a town-hall style meeting on the economy.
A single-payer system would eliminate private insurance companies and put a Medicare-like system into place where the government pays all health-care bills with tax dollars.
But we’ve got all these legacy systems in place, and managing the transition, as well as adjusting the culture to a different system, would be difficult to pull off. So we may need a system that’s not so disruptive that people feel like suddenly what they’ve known for most of their lives is thrown by the wayside.’
Imagine that.)
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pmJay,
I tend to lurk and read the posts and I understand how some fellow posters like having fun with a moron like you, but that begs the question – why are you still here?
Do you get a rush from being voted down so many times? Do you like being wrong 100% of the time? Or, do you just like being an ahole?
I’d guess it’s the later. Don’t bother responding to me – I just vote you down and move on anyway.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm***
btw, this:
“Insults are what you people do best isn’t it.”
needs a question mark (?).
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pmjay says:
How’s your reading of the bill coming?
You still don’t realise the version you provided a link for is not the final version.
Interesting you should take Pres Obama hypothetical “If I were designing a system from scratch” -certainly a huge “if” since we are obviously not starting from scratch- as a statement of fact, but you won’t accept his many statements debunking his supposed intentions to eliminate private insurers.
Not to mention that speech was delivered a year ago -give or take. Isn’t that “ancient history”, in your own words?
You are truly beyond help.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
* I *
“amusing” 7 x’s.
“read the bill” 7 x’s.
“precious” 2 x’s.
“ha, ha, ha” 5x’s.
“you people” 2 x’s.
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you need new words.
you repeat yourself.
:|
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jay, you look very pretty when you curtsey like that.
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sorry jay,
i must of “hit a nerve” with you again.
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“What’s wrong with you people here?”
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“you people” 3 x’s.
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you need new words.
you repeat yourself.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pmwow, this jay punk is a glutton for punishment
completely humiliated by his intellectual betters, he still insists on his own version of reality, no matter how many contradicting fact he is presented with
this one is the ultimate in intellectual cowardice. so scared to be wrong, he can’t admit when he is unequivocally proven to be entirely incorrect
the level of ignorance required to believe in the Republican platform is amazing
wow, just wow
August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pmjay babbles:
C’mon now. Don’t you know that there is no final bill yet?
Er… that is what I said. Having problems reading plain English tonight?
And you are right -you never provided a link. Backing up what you say would be too much work for you…
August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Wow, the time for polite town halls is over, huh Pete? When is it going to be time for you fascist dirtbags to start shooting in the streets and blowing up buildings?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm***
greg,
links?
i have jay’s favorite link
right here.
:|
August 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay thinks continually changing the subject will somehow allow him to, by sheer luck, be correct at least once
even a broken clock is right twice a day
I don’t think jay can keep up that kind of pace
August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm* *
it’s very “meaningful”,
jay.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pmpoor jay
dropped on his head as a toddler
beaten up every day in middle school
shunned by all the girls in high school
ineffective at work
intellectually insufficient
morally bankrupt
eaten up by fear based ignorance
wow jay, you are one sad sack
August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm***
rt,
he doesn’t have a family.
he doesn’t have a job.
he just has us.
:)
we’re his “people”.
:\
August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pmWe should be very worried about just how ignorant they are. The stupidity displayed by this Jay troll is rampant throughout the wingnut ranks.
While I realize it is not a crime to be this ignorant, these people need to be deprogrammed. An extremely ignorant person is easily taken in by propaganda, and Jay is no exception.
The sound of “reeducation camps” is one that conjures up horrible images, but what choice do we have? If we allow the fascist theocrat Republicans to brainwash the least intelligent Americans, the threat posed by corporate sponsored fascism will only continue.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay prattle:
I guess not. You’re not too bright are you?
Says the twit who doesn’t understand Obama’s speech was about providing a public option, not eliminating private insurers, and who cannot comprehend why the two are not mutually exclusive.
Rich indeed…
How’s you reading coming?
Let’s try this again: It’s not the final bill.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm***
“Insults are what you people do best isn’t it. (sic)”
later.
“I guess not. You’re not too bright are you?”
*
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marlow says:
Wow, the time for polite town halls is over, huh Pete? When is it going to be time for you fascist dirtbags to start shooting in the streets and blowing up buildings?
Was this addressed to me? I’m going to need some clarification before I should respond. Thanks.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pmthink about it this way, TPers:
jay is just a silly toy we play with when it shows up here
we keep it occupied with its hopeless quest for relevance
that keeps it from spreading diseases to prostitutes and coming on to little boys on the playground
so you could say we are providing a public protection service by keeping jay tied up here instead of out on the streets
the poor little ignorant coward just can’t quit us
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm***
“Your certainly are on topic.”
***
you’re tired.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pmamazing, jay has not been able to make a single point all night
every link he posted proved he was either lying or too stupid to read with comprehension
and yet he still persists
trolls are stubborn things
August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm***
jay, you have nothing to say.
and you’ve said it over and over again.
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay goes from getting beaten up in school to getting schooled on TP
classic
August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm***
You’re not too bright are you?”
?
are you drinking branch water?
:)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pmjay the magic moron
lived by the lake
dumb to his socks
always watched fox
and believed in his tv
jay the magic moron
August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pmcan’t seem to read
mentally ill
no reading skills
and wrong as wrong can be
Jay,
You are a fascist troll. What can be served by talking to you except that I might become more stupid by association?
I don’t know why the TPers bother to address you, because you thrive on attention. Hopefully, the guys from homeland security will be knocking on your door soon, and you can get the help you need.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm***
jay,
hang onto your precious bodily fluids.
you’re going to need ‘em!
***
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lol, predictable
now the troll has to try to claim that HE is the puppeteer, and we are the puppets
nevermind that, we’re here whether he is or not
and we’re not the ones going to a politically opposite site with the sole intention of spreading the latest talking point
then he gets mad when his intellectual superiors knock down his bogus propaganda
o, and it’s not “intertain”, you moron, it’s “entertain”
so dance some more for me jay
you’re cute when you try to act like a grown up
August 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pmOT
You know, I just noticed the vote down feature is not working for me, because when I click vote down on Jay’s posts, and then I refresh, his numbers don’t change, and the click down option is no longer grayed out.
I wonder what is up with that.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pmWell, Jay’s getting lots of attention at any rate. It clearly doesn’t matter whether he makes any sense or makes any points, as long as everyone acknowledges he exists. It’s a pathetic existence, but at least we know that the goats of America are safe for a few hours, their little privates untampered with as long as Jay is at the keyboard.
In the best of all possible worlds, Jay would be able to afford the mental health professionals he clearly needs. Of course, in the best of all possible worlds, his parents wouldn’t have locked him in the closet for his first 20 years and none of this would be necessary.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pmgummble, jay just likes to be our punching bag
he’s the kid that pees his pants for attention
August 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pmTommy, yeah, I get that. I picture him laughing “ha ha, you missed me,” even as the other kids slap him and kick him over and over. He’s definitely got his own reality.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pmthe best thing about trolls like jay is:
his posts show fence sitters and others the mindset of the typical Republican
when people come here in response to one of the right wing pundits whining about TP, they read the comments and many of them don’t want to be associated with the mind-numbing ignorance and cowardice of people like jay
jay turns more people off Republicanism than he realizes
all of which is good for America, and that’s what’s really important
August 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pmjay says:
Now, where in the document does it say that this administration seeks to eliminate private insurers?
No that was in a speech by Obama.
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Thats right you insufferable moron it would. Now pay close attention. You were obviously too stupid to understand this the first time so knit those protruded brow ridges and pay attention.
IF. Do you know what that word means? IF we were starting from scratch he would go with single payer. However we are NOT starting from scratch and the rest of that quote that you cropped made it clear that SINCE WE ARENT STARTING FROM SCRATCH he is not advocating single payer. Only a brainwashed moron could read the entire quote and STILL say Obama is trying to take over healthcare. That is except for the screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you, they KNOW better but they also know how stupid the sheeple like YOU are that listen to them and you will believe whatever they say no matter whether it makes sense or not. So moron since we ARENT starting from scratch and since Obama is NOT trying to take over healthcare and you are just a liar and a fool.
There is a section in the bill that allows this very thing to gradually creep into place. It’s in the first hundred pages.
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No there isnt. I know the talking point you speak of that has mesmerised you on command like a birdbrain magpie looking at a shiny object. I will allow you to humiliate yourself again by trying it but you are a liar and a fool. There IS NO SUCH PROVISION.
I’m sure an intelligent person, such as yourself can find it.
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You are stupid you have NO idea what an intelligent person can find, might think, says, eats for lunch. You dont know ANYTHING about intelligent people because you are so stupid they avoid you like the plague rat you are.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Unfortunately, Jay is probably out in the real world, masquerading as a human. This is one of the problems in identifying the fascist theocrat Republicans that are about to go ballistic and start shooting people. They go about their lives pretty much like everyone else, and when they express their wingnuttery, they are outcast by their contemporaries.
Eventually people like Jay snap and then start shooting. We really need to get these fascists out of our society and into a nice prison where they can get deprogrammed. And we need to stop the propaganda before more people die.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pmJay
I know what Obama said MORON. I also know what he said later about not scrapping our existing system. He supports single payer. IF he was starting a new system it is the one he would pick. He IS NOT STARTING A NEW SYSTEM so it ISNT the one he is going with my GOD you are ignorant
August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pmin regards to jay the magic moron:
none are so blind as he who will not see
jay is willfully ignorant because his ideology depends on inaccurate information
his entire world view would fall apart if he allowed facts to interfere with his imagination
August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
shorter jay:
“it’s only a flesh wound”
August 5th, 2009 at 10:52 pmjay says:
EugeneDebs, but there is. Read the bill.
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There are three competing bills STILL moron. Why waste my time reading what is still basically in the negotiation stage? NONE of them are advocating a single payer plan. THAT bill HR 676 I HAVE read. It is great. It also doesnt have enough support to get out of comittee unfortunatly. YOU. ARE. STUPID. You dont know what you are talking about Obama is NOT advocating a single payer system. He has said he supporsts one but doesnt want to scrap what we have to start over so all he is advocating is a public option. Its that simple. I am sorry. I simply cant dumb it down any further. I dont know what part of that you are just flat too stupid to understand
August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pmthere are only 3 possibilities here:
1. jay is lying – plausable, but I think he really believes what he is saying, which is pathologically ignorant, but he believes it nonetheless
2. jay is stupid – most likely scenario, he just can’t understand the words on the page and so he fills in what his brain misses with the propaganda he is fed by the right wing corporate mainstream media
3. jay is kidding – least likely scenario – he doesn’t appear to have the intellectual capacity for humor beyond simple slapstick and racial bigotry
August 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pmJay, You obviously lean more to the right, Im not going to insult you or put you down for your beliefs. Can you answer a question for me. First of all since you believe in the repub. party then you must cherish freedom of speech like we all do.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pmYou come onto TP and say whatever is on your mind and the moderators never cut you off from commenting.
I have given up on visiting rightwing blogs because after I make one or two comments the moderators cut me off.
I dont say anything nasty or use profane language.
I just have a different point of view than the rightwing point of view. As soon as they realize that im a liberal they shut me down. If you come onto TP and want to have an intelligent conversation you will get one. So why dont rightwing blogs give liberals the same curtisies?
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I see only one likely scenario. Jay is a moron who only knows what Rush tells him
August 5th, 2009 at 10:58 pmgood night TPers
I’m headed up to the smokey mountains to ride the Cherohala Skyway, the Tail of the Dragon, and Hellbender 28
gonna be an iron butt day, but it’s how I like to spend my birthday
I’ll post video over on BBQ Biker by the weekend
peace
p.s. jay – please don’t change! you “intertain” us to no end with your cowardly ignorance (and ignorant cowardice) and we appreciate the levels of humiliation you are willing to endure just to entertain liberals and help drive more people away from Republicanism
August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pmjay says:
A single-payer system would be financed by eliminating private insurers and recapturing their administrative waste.
But that is not even something Pres Obama has said.
This is taken out of the PNHP’s website.
Focus, jay, focus…
August 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pmjay says:
Sorry Jay you are just too stupid to be taken seriously
Was he lying then or is he lying now? I take a man for his word and what he says.
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Single payer isnt nonsense it works in most of the rest of the industrial world but Obama doesnt want to scrap our entire system to start over. This is simple. Only a low level moron as stupid as you cant see that this makes sense.
A single-payer system would be financed by eliminating private insurers and recapturing their administrative waste. Modest new taxes would replace premiums and out-of-pocket payments currently paid by individuals and business. Costs would be controlled through negotiated fees, global budgeting and bulk purchasing.
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Yes that is how it would work. There would be other savings that I wont go into since you being too stupid to even understand what we ARE talking about are FAR too stupid to take through them. That really isnt relevant though since Obama isnt ADVOCATING A SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM. There IS a bill in the house that does. HR 676 Obama has not supported it nor even MENTIONED IT.
We will see.
You are pretty closed minded aren’t you.
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Not really I just know what I am talking about. You should try it some time if you ever aquire the requisite equipment for higher brain functioin you are pretty stupid arent you.
Good at name calling but closed minded. Is it your ego that gets in the way?
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But you ARENT waiting for a final bill you started lying about it early. Then again you are very stupid
August 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pmI dropped a paragraph
Was he lying then or is he lying now? I take a man for his word and what he says.
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He wasnt lying then and he isnt lying now. He supports a single payer, he thinks it works. He isnt willing to scrap our entire system and start over which he has said directly. Only someone as stupid and brainwashed as YOU thinks this is a contradiction
August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pmFOUR TENS, on ONE thread! Whoo-hoo! I feel all tiggery! I just got my second bounce of the day! I LOVE this vote down feature—it is to trolls what paper shredders are to useless paperwork.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay says:
Most of your detracters are youngsters? I am 52. How do you KNOW most of them are young? Do you really think you can read peoples minds through their computer screens? I mean as stupid and delusional as you are you MIGHT think that. Really you should stop your snivelling and pretending that YOU dont do your own derisive contempt for us here. You are rude and nasty. Not to mention ignorant and delusional
August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pmMichael “Steal” is an utter embarassment of a tool. If you see his moustache moving, he’s most likely lying. I can’t wait to see his dopey “Who, Me?” reaction when he figures out just how little his fellow Rethugs think of him.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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jay says:
Eugene, if you’re 52 then why don’t you act your age.
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I am 52 and I DO act my age. I am sure you would prefe we just take your lies and abuse without giving it back. I dont consider allowing us to become punching bags to your derisive contempt to be a sign of maturity. Oh I know you WISH I would. I am not as stupid as you. I never will be.
You’re a bully with a bad attitude. You only post to boost your ego (in my opinion) and to show off to the clique here.
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I dont care where you got any information. Anyone NOT a moron knows that there is no WAY to know the age of those posting here. So you making that statement no matter WHERE you got it just shows once again how stupid you are.
They said it so it must be true.
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If YOU say it then it must be bone ignorant
I don’t really care. They act like children so I didn’t question it.
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We no more act like children than YOU act like a punkass troll. We dont get honest debate from you. We get stupid. We get talking points. We get you ignoring the arguments that shred you mercilessly. You dont really CARE what is true or real. You only want to spew your stupid talking points and have NO interest in reality. You act like a troll you get the hostility trolling deserves. Raise your game and be honest. Then you will see adult conversation and debate as of now you just flat dont deserve it and your petulant WHINING isnt going to change anyones mind.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pmjay says:
Like I said, children. (-2). I never vote on a post. They stand on there own, left and right.
Someones opinion.
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Like I said you are a moron. Typical people dont like me or my posts its because THEY have a problem. You are stupid. Your posts are stupid, they are also contemptous. We dont like them its because YOU suck not because WE have any problem. You are like a punkass little girl whining and blaming everything on everyone ELSE.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pmjay says:
I got that information from one of your friends here who said that most of the posters here were in their early 30’s.
Most of the folk I’ve interacted with here who mention their age, or provide sufficient information for one to infer, seem to be in their 50’s or 60’s. I’m sure there are folk of all ages. We oldsters may be deceptive because as progressives our thought processes are so fresh and vibrant!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pmOutstandingInMyField says:
you got THAT right Field
August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
From what I understand, the repugs are worried that a government run healthcare system would put insurance companies out of business. Dont you think that insurance companies worried about going under would be a huge benefit for most Americans?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pmIf they have competition then they might have to put their policy holders first and profits second.
If a major insurance company folds because of gov. run healthcare alot of people would lose their jobs. No one wants to see that happen. So that should give the insurance companies more incentive to put their holders first. Sick people would get the treatment that they deserve and paid for,and their employees would be able to retain their jobs.
Most of all every single American will be able to sleep better at night knowing that they have health insurance.
You know what they say the better you sleep at night the more productive you are at work. That will mean less manhours lost everyday at the workplace.
It looks like a win,win for every one.
It may be equally true that many of our trolls are actually much older than the 19 they seem to be as their thought processes are rigid, hidebound, and lacking in depth.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pmjay says:
I dont care why you THINK you come here. All you do here is humiliate yourself and show how stupid, petulant and juvenile you are. WWWWWAAAAHHHHHHHH is your basic fallback position. I am fairly new here. I am not the head of anything. I get ragged on by the more temperate liberals quite often. You are stupid Jay. Stop pretending that YOU being stupid is anyone else’s problem. If you come here to find me sometimes you will and sometimes you wont but really get a life. I come here to amuse myself and laugh at people as stupid as you. I HAVE to waste time at my house since I am on call 24/7. If I had a set time to work I would probably be here once or twice a week at the most.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
And here this whole time I thought John Kerry was the head of the clique…
August 5th, 2009 at 11:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Jay, horror stories abound in our health care system as well. Plenty of folk on this board could share one with you.
Wasn’t there someone last week saying that The Zoo was a clique? I know I’m not a member of the clique, but how can I curry favor and join if I can’t even find out who’s running the dam’ed thing?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’m 48 years old—wise,responsible, and reliable, waaaaay beyond the comprehension of a simple-minded wing-nut.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:54 pmjay says:
A decent post. Without contempt or derisive insults. Telling us what you THINK. If you did that from the beggining instead of regurgitating talking points you would have been treated differently.
Sure. I doubt there IS a perfect system. By the way SOME countries DO cover everyone citizen or no but that is another conversation. Yeah. I doubt single payer is the answer to all problems. The thing is for profit healthcare causes several contradictions. First the only way to maximize profits, which at its base is the agenda for all businesses they have to become healthcare denial systems. Second. Those without healtchare are funneled away from the much less expensive preventative care into the MONUMENTALLY expensive end of life critical care. 18,000 people a year DIE from lack of access to healthcare in this country and that is most likely a lowball figure. Half of all bankrupcies are from medical causes and more than half of them started with health insurance. This is another way healthcare insurance screws YOU to get their profits. They link to your job. So if you get REALLY sick or chronically sick you miss work lose your job and they no longer cover you. Those without insurance drive up the cost of those WITH insurance so our heavy industries subsidize them and put us at a competitive disadvantage with our biggest competitors which have national healthcare plans so their corporations only pay a tax. A set cost rather than getting jacked up 10% in a year by the insurance corporations because they lost money in the stock market. The EASIEST way to alleviate all these unacceptable problems would be single payer but with a public option at least a few of them would be addressed. We MUST get a universal coverage. It is not acceptable to allow people to DIE of being poor, that is a first step ALL of those things must be addressed. I suppose a mixed system can do that but it means regulation and laws MAKING insurance companies take better responsibility for the entire healthcare of their patients
August 5th, 2009 at 11:54 pmjay says:
EugeneDebs I know you don’t. You know what I “THINK” now.
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I will decide every aspect of how I post. Your STUPID got old LONG ago.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pmjay says:
Jay a MORON punkass troll who whines pitifully. Have you had enough of snivelling WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH at us. I can laugh at you all day.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:56 pmjay says:
OutstandingInMyField, I have no idea.
Eugene and db are here maybe you can ask them.
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Since you are very stupid this will probably go over yoru head like a 747 over a cornfield but I refuse to join any clique that would have me as a member.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
jay says:
Eugene, nothing personal but I don’t care for your last 100 insults you made about me and don’t care to seriously discuss anything with you.
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I couldnt possibly care LESS what YOU care to do. I will answer any post I feel like answering If YOU want a private discusion get a phone number. We both know you dont have the intellectual capacity to really discuss anything anyway. Its regurgitating talking points and derisive contempt from you most every post. You are fun to kick around though
August 6th, 2009 at 12:06 amjay says:
See ya all, luv ya.
Four hours after you first said goodbye, you are still here still saying goodbye?
And still struggling to make some kind of coherent point.
Sad, really…
August 6th, 2009 at 12:06 amJay regurgitates another talking point
Remember one thing though, under a Government plan you can’t file suit when they cut off the wrong leg.
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Of course you could MORON. Government agencies get sued every year. My GOD you just never know what you are talking about.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:08 amSo, Mikey Steele, since you are “da man,” I’ve got a question for you:
You lunatics have gotten caught with your (figurative) gascans – are you truly stupid enough to think that anybody with half a brain is going to believe that you don’t have a single book of matches in your pockets…?
August 6th, 2009 at 12:08 amGregor Samsa says:
You know what is REALLY sad. I have seen him be even stupider than he was tonight.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:09 amEugeneDebs,
I admit I had never seen Jays before -I just tune trolls out now.
But of this is the best Jay can do, well, I only hope he’s not out there right now looking for a gym to shoot women in…
August 6th, 2009 at 12:13 amHey gregor, They were saying the lunitic who shot up the gym had clips that held 30 rounds that were illegal until 2004 when the assault weapons ban was lifted. We all know who was in office then. Not that it makes a difference,but if Obama was in office in 2004 the repugs would be blaming Obama for this tragedy.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:27 amDamn, now SteelyMike and McIIIrd are both gonna have to apologize to Lush Rimbaugh.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:49 amsscncturn64,
and you know what is the standard rightwinger reply to a tragedy like this one?
If the women in the gym had carried their own guns, they could have stopped this man right in his tracks
Which makes a much sense as any of Jay’s posts -meaning, not a whole lot.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:49 am***
jay, that fat fu(k,
was posting here on
his boss’ dime.
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nice guy.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 1:01 amIt’s perfect for the Republicans…They condone the town hall mobs but condemn them, because they know that the media will dutifully report that they were being reasonable in contrast…
August 6th, 2009 at 1:02 amGood point gregor, its the womens fault for not having fully loaded assault rifles in their gym bags.
August 6th, 2009 at 1:09 amthe dems being who they are will run and hide from the repubs while they disrupt these meetings
notice haw the dems sit there all quiet and say nothing
it is no wonder reid is head of the demo senate
fits right in with the dem philosphy
give the repubs credit they will water down health care reform
new soul thing. their motto: it is just about me not them
August 6th, 2009 at 1:27 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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you didn’t vote for it,
you fat fu(k.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 2:52 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
actually i didnt vote for McCain but thanks for the insult you liberals just cant take fact can you
August 6th, 2009 at 3:03 am***
“you liberals just cant take fact can you”
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what have you got against
question marks (?) you fat fu(k?
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:14 am**
“Do you remeber what led to the republican revolution?”
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what have you got against
good spelling you fat fu(K?!
:0
August 6th, 2009 at 3:17 amWhy not allow insurance companies to compete nationally give a credit to each house hold aswell. This accomplishes a couple things doesnt devalue the level of care and forces real competition like life insurance or car insurance. Prices would go down because they have nowhere else to go genetic disease and certain pre conditions should be allowed but if i exercise and eat right why should i pay more for some fast food eating smoker that’s only exercise is lifting the tv changer. also get ride of employer runned insurance why shuold you not own your own insurance. Its not right that if you switch jobs your lose insurance, this would raise wages and with better competition you could get a great plan for a good price and there would be a focus on healthy living.
August 6th, 2009 at 3:21 am***
when you climb down from your acid trip
call 911 and spend the night in the er.
report back here tomorrow you fat fu(k!
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:25 am***
good news here you fat fu(K!
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rupert murdoch sucks donkey dick.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:31 amSome of we liberals are night people, so this isn’t going to work either. No nickels.
August 6th, 2009 at 3:41 amproudMoron says:
You MUST be the ProudMoron from Media Matters the same monumental stupidity the same astonishing level of brainwashing. So the polls are wrong because you SAY so. No the polls arent wrong for YEARS polls have shown Americans want universal healthcare. You are stupid. You have always been stupid. You never know what you are talking about and just think that if you repeat what Rush told you to think it magically becomes true. This is typical of the galactically stupid like you.
Your next post again highlights how stupid and pathetically brainwashed you are. People DO die of lack of access to healthcare because people walking into emergency rooms only have to be stabalized not taken care of. If they need ongoing care or say a transplant to live. THEY DIE. They get sent home to die. You are ignorant it really is that simple.
As to your next post you wouldnt know a fact from an igloo MORON.
You continue with the rightwing talking points that will not address the problems. That is 18,000 people a year dying from lack of access to healthcare. That half of all bankrupcies are healthcare related and more than half of those had healthcare when their problems began. The competitive disadvantage our industries haveing to provide healthcare when our foriegn competitors are in countries with single payer so that burden ISNT on them. That our healthcare is joined with our jobs so if we get a chronic illness or something that makes us miss too much work we lose our jobs AND our healthcare. Rush isnt going to tell you what to think about the real problems so you are never going to have the slightest idea how to address them. You are a brainwashed moron that doesnt who doesnt even KNOW what you think until Rush tells you. You are pathetic
August 6th, 2009 at 5:25 amGah, let the wingnuts up, Eugene. lol
August 6th, 2009 at 7:51 amjay says:
Hit a nerve didn’t I?
A Pavlovian nerve, yes.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:31 amThanks for the kind words Preston. You better duck.
And now for you little boy:
My business, my dime. Who’s money did you steal yesturday?Spanked.WHAAAAAAAA!!!! Ha Ha Ha :)
August 6th, 2009 at 8:51 am“EXPRESS THEIR FRUSTRATION”…So if that “HOSTILE MOB”, brought their GUNS, and when on a “KILLING SPREE”, Chairman Steele would say that was just their way of “EXPRESSING THEIR FRUSTRATION.”
It’s no Party secret that Michael Steele is a “COMPLETE IDIOT”.Michael Steele brings new meaning to the Old Chinese Proverb:”It is better to keep silent, and thought of as a FOOL, than to open your mouth and remove all DOUBT.”
August 6th, 2009 at 8:53 amSorry “yesterday”.
Ha Ha Ha Ha WHAAAAAAAAAAA. :).
August 6th, 2009 at 8:53 amI guess business is slow…
August 6th, 2009 at 9:26 amA troll classic… accusing others of being “ignorant” in a post rife with misspellings…
August 6th, 2009 at 9:38 am**
tracist,
tell your cousin/wife i said “hi”.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 10:56 amSteele is considered just another compromiser in a party with no principle or guts. He may end up in the same boat as Arrgggh-lyn Specter and the GOP’s Cap and Tax 8. We of the “unruly mob” are nearly as disgusted with the Republicans as we are with the policy influences of nitwit views and philosophies such as those of Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright that Democrats apparently worship.
August 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm***
don’t be so disgusted.
you should start your own party.
first come up with a good, attractive name.
good luck.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 1:06 pm** ***
how about
“the coord_xfrm party”?
good luck.
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August 6th, 2009 at 1:07 pm***
“Tell you”?
you’re upset.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 1:18 pmbig night for Tracy – must’ve scored some of that Douglas kid’s crank before he was busted.
August 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm***
tom,
too much caffeine
and he’s upset.
:|
August 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pmHi Joe!
If I started a party, we’d all be arrested by morning.
August 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pm***
well shooting people who don’t agree
with you is against the law.
good luck.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm***
“Actually laughing at you.”
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(you forgot the link.)
:0
August 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm***
your stomach hurts
because of your tape worm.
. . ..
stop eating sh|t/
:|
August 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI have learned a valueble lesson from this website you cant debate a koolaid drinking liberal cause no matter what they are right. It will very intresting to see the results in 2010 I suspect a huge gop comeback and liberal tears then Obamas experiment of socializing the United States might be interupted. You all say its not socialism well when the government runs the automotive industry the banking industry the morgage companies, your health care and taxes the rich so that he can give to the poor, bankrupt the United states. Obama has spent more money in six months than Bush did in eight years and he spent way to much. You can’t spend money you dont have.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pmIts a dangerous moment when a democratic society tries to quell the voice of the American people. Regardless of which side your on, the opportunity to voice opinions, as long as it is within the confines of the law, is a precious right not embraced by every country. The same rights that allow people to protest at town hall meetings are the same rights that allowed people to protest at funerals of our fallen soldiers during the Iraq war. It is also the same rights that allowed people to protest the Vietnam war. I sincerely hope we are not arguing that it is ok to protest as long as it is in keeping with a certain “agenda”. So what is the solution to the boistrous health care town hall meetings? How about locking up protestors as we did in the 60’s. Spray the protestors with water cannons?
To accuse the RNP of manufacturing the protests is about as fair as accusing the DNP of manufacturing evidence to support their side.
I make these comments without identifying which “side” I’m on. At this point in my life, I’m not on anyone’s side. I distrust our legislatures. For the last 20 years we have had to settle for the better of two evils when it comes to candidates. I have not read Obama’s health care reform bill and I’m not about to throw stones at something in which “I do not have “all the facts” and I certainly will not refer to his bill as being “stupid” yet.”
The side I am on is for the American people to have the best leadership, the best plans and the best opportunity to succeed. I honestly do not believe what we have in Washington is capable of achieving. I think there is too much corruption and too much deception. If a health care reform bill is passed and it most assuredly takes money from our pockets, it better be the best money can buy and not just “suck less” than the present system.
Thank you,
August 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm***
tractist, nice pic of your girlfriend,
do you keep it in your wallet?
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm* ** ***
“I have learned a valueble lesson from this website you cant debate a koolaid drinking liberal cause no matter what they are right.”
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well if you say so.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pmjpreston says:
sure he really got us by CROPPING Obamas quote and entirely changing its meaning. I guess he thought WE were as stupid as the two of you and wouldnt KNOW he was a lying sack of crap. He was too stupid to know what Obama was saying and when he was taken apart like a cheap watch by showing what Obama REALLY said IN CONTEXT, he ignored it and ran away. How ignorant and brainwashed do you have to be to pretend that made sense AFTER he was utterly demolished on that weak attempt at a point? I mean just how stupid ARE you anyway? I am curious would someone have to be as stupid as YOU to be brainwashed by this idiocy? Fold it up moron. You guys are WAY too stupid to be taken seriously
Eugene, I think you are a long winded idiot. You deal in insults and are a fine example of a left wing moron.
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Really? I know you are but what am I? Thats the best you can do? Go back to the third grade playground. You are way out of your league here.
Of course that is just my opinion.
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Sure who gave it to you? Look you are stupid. It isnt our fault. You were born a moron and you will die a moron. Time fo come to terms with your disability. The sun will never dawn on the day you will be capable of higher brain function. Thanks for the free clown show. I love to laugh at people as stupid as you.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pmPathetic? Yes. :)
You are a liar ProudMoron. You have never learned anything in your LIFE. You not only cant debate liberals you cant debate at ALL. Regurgitating what Rush told you to think isnt debating. You are too stupid to think for yourself. Higher brain function is necessary for debate and you are NEVER going to have the intellectual capacity to pull that off.
Look up the word socialism its embarassing when you show how stupid you are because you use words and dont know what they mean. The government is NOT nationalizing healthcare moron. MY GOD you are stupid.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pmjddarr66 says
You really are an idiot. It isnt about trying to stop people giving their opinions CAN YOU READ? They are disrupting these meetings they are TOLD to disrupt them and the e-mail FROM THE RNC telling them to disrupt these meeting early NOT to have an intelligent debate have already been shown. Since you CLEARLY have no idea what you are talking about I skipped the rest of your post. Try haveing some dim idea what you are talking about before embarassing yourself further.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pmjddarr66 – there may be few plants (no, not pot!) in a town-hall meeting here or there but for the most part there’s just a bunch of pissed-off people. It won’t matter how they are labeled – they’ll still be po’d. In fact – the more they are seen as just a bunch of Republican lackies the more po’d they’ll become. Neither the politicians (on both sides of the isle) nor the Left really get it – yet. They see everything as some phony, orchestrated, show since that’s how they operate and is all they understand. They probably haven’t seen or can’t remember genuine populace outrage – at least since the anti-Vietnam mass movements in the late 60s and early 70s. I know a populace revolt in the making when I see one, having been part of one before, and now, once again, the government is going to learn a couple lesson in Principles of Government 101: don’t ram shit down the throats of an unwilling people and don’t steal their money to use for political self-empowerment!
August 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pmEugeneDebs
Oh my…you hurt my feelings. Honestly, I expected a bit better response than just name calling. I guess anyone who’s opinion is different from yours is an idiot. I wont resort to that level except to say the education system isn’t what it used to be.
All I have seen on the internet regarding Obama’s plan is biased commentary from both sides or rhetoric from Obama’s office website. I dont want fluff, I want concrete information.
Ok, I’m so hurt by Eugene’s comments I have to go lay down…or maybe I’ll do a Youtube video with a flash light and the covers over my head…”Leave jddarr66 alone!!” ;-)
August 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm***
coord_xfrm,
now that would make a great forward
to a book you should be writing.
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so get busy.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm***
“Leave jddarr66 alone!!”
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first take your thorazine.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pmjddarr66 says:
I dont care what you feel. I am not trying to hurt your feelings. I am not going to cry if they are hurt. You started your post with a talking point that showed CLEARLY that you dont understand at ALl what you are talking about. It isnt about silencing dissent. I love dissent. They arent dissenting they are DISRUPTING. Then you made a plain idiotic statement about it being unfair to accuse the RNC of manufacturing these problems when the memo from them was SHOWN. AGAIN it says to disrupt early. It says directly NOT to engage in intelligent debate the very thing you are trying to portray these people as trying to have. You can do that then pretend you are being reasonable but it ISNT reasonable. If you dont know what you are talking about and just want to tell us what some radio screechmonkey TOLD you to think then you being an idiot. It really is that simple. ALL the criticisms of this ARE about the disruption NOT the dissent, NOT giving other opinions. So why not stop with the strawman argument that wastes our ti8me and make a real contribution or just go away and let the adults talk
August 6th, 2009 at 3:30 pm***
tracist,
your dad says thanks for all of your love
and support. and don’t forget visiting
day’s this wednesday.
† †
and keep up the good fight.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm***
justice sotomayor.
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shout that down.
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pmYeah – unless you’re a non-hispanic white male – or a Connecticut firefighter who only wants to be promoted on something as ridiculously irrelevant as MERIT…. duhh :-)
August 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pm***
glad you believe in merit.
that’s why i voted you down.
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you’re ok with that, aren’t you?
:)
August 6th, 2009 at 6:30 pm***
oh and about that fireman.
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guess he doesn’t believe in tort reform,
does he?
:)
sue, sue, sue!
:0
August 6th, 2009 at 6:32 pmEugene,
Tsk Tsk…such hostility! I’m really amazed you are incapable of disagreeing with people without using insults which must be an IQ thing and is no fault of your own. You were born this way. For the record, you didn’t hurt my feelings. You do not know me, but I love to stir the pot. I obviously struck a nerve with you and I enjoy that immensely. So please, keep it up. I really enjoy it.
Seriously, I have to wonder if it’s only disruptive because it doesn’t match the agenda of the party in charge and is a threat to health care reform in general. The American people are angry and they are letting their feelings boil over at these meetings. They want their voices to be heard and they are tired of politicians cramming stuff down their throat. This is a very passionate issue and people want to know what they are getting and how it will affect them.
By the way, I hardly listen to politically based radio programs as a means of shaping my views as you have charged. I assume you are talking about Glen Beck, Rush and others just as I hardly listen to the liberal stations such as Air America. Yes, I have heard of such stations and radio personalities. I get too angry at the hypocrisy of each side to listen for very long.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pm