Earlier today, Fox News publicized the time and location of “gladiatorial” town halls hosted by Democrats — but not Republicans. With “heated” and increasingly confrontational town halls now dominating news coverage, Washington correspondent James Rosen announced he had “obtained a large Excel spreadsheet showing the schedule of town halls for Democratic members of Congress.” Rosen reported the time and location of several town halls, including those for Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) and Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA). To explain why Fox wasn’t reporting on town halls hosted by Republicans, Rosen assured viewers that if he “had the spreadsheet for the Republican members,” he would “share” that as well:
Media Matters for America’s Jamison Foser was able to turn up a list of Republican town halls with a quick Google search: “Well, I like to help FOX out when I can, so here’s a list of town halls that includes Republicans.”
shocking . . . not.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pmAnd the FCC isn’t shutting these clowns who are shouting FIRE in the crowded theater, why?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pmer…shutting down…duh.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm***
“Real News, Fair and Balanced”
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August 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pmSigh, the facts, no matter how true are irrelevant.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pmWe need to look up and attend all of our representative’s town hall meetings, either Republican or Democrat. We cannot just sit here and let Republicans frame this debate. We cannot let Republicans go unchallenged in their town hall meetings.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pmCan we all say agents provocateurs and be done with it?
Fox is inciting to riot mind you. Remind anyone of the sixties when the right wing beat up hippies, protestors, anyone who didn’t agree with them?
I mean, Nixon had a whole shyte-load of people working as agents provocateurs–sanctioned by the FBI.
Wow, deja vu.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pmTranslation: We don’t have a spreadsheet for the repubs because we didn’t bother to make one like we did for the dems.
And I betcha even after getting one gratis, they don’t run it because they don’t read emails from libtards.
Can I also ask: an earlier thread had protestors breaking up a meeting by banging on windows, etc. It said many refused a police order to disperse. Isn’t that cause for arrest ? So why weren’t there arrests ?
And how do these astroturfed teabaged riots compare with protests that got the DFHs arrested at the repub convention ?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pm.
But of course it fair and balanced when FOXPRAVDA doesn’t report the Republican Town Halls…
… YES?
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August 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pmCall them Fax them as much as you can:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pmFox News Channel
1211 Ave. of the Americas, New York, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 301-3000
Fax: (212) 301-4229
So Fox sees itself as the undisputed leader in bringing democracy to a standstill…
..what a proud moment, not only for them, but for the sub-literate mouthbreathers they pander to 24/7.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm1) Agressive stupidity? Check.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm2) Disconnect from reality? Check.
3) Screeching, batsh1t crazy? Check.
Well then, it’s Faux Snooze Time!!!
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The insanity of it all… and how do the republicans expect to hold onto any respect they may have left?
This has to back fire as there is no place for it to go.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pmMan if one of these old freepers trys to punch Jim Webb the Senator is going to rip their arm off any beat them to death with it.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:20 pmHow about making fun of them by playing Helter Skelter before the meetings start and making an apology before the meetings start to those who want to seriously discuss health care issues.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:23 pmnot surprisingly, redstate.com is also advertising the schedules for democrats’ town halls, but not repubs’.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:23 pmSomewhere in the well connected corporate powers that be maybe a disgraced Fox cable news is worth a gain for the for profits screw you if you get sick disguised as health insurance industry.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pmWorld gone mad? Nah, it’s republiCONs gone mad! Mad cow disease maybe?
RepubliCONs gone wild need to be sent to JAIL. Please Democrats in Congress and Senate, start using your power and send these THUGS to jail. Arrest them!
It should be so hard to have rules at these meetings. Very simple. Robert rules of order. You have to raise your hand to ask a questions. Or you can stand in line and wait for a mike to ask a questions. If you disrupt the meeting, you are thrown out. If you do something illegal, you are sent to the paddy wagon and you get arrested.
It really is simple. Come on Democrats. Get it together!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pmYou have the power to quiet these insurance industry hacks.
A famous football coach (Jim Mora I think) once said to a beat reporter:
“You don’t know what you don’t know”.
God, this applies to the freaking morons who sponsor hate and misinformation.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pmI hope these communities have ample police departments.
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The purpose is to get the lunatics to the Democrat’s Town Halls to turn them into Clown Halls.
Progressives have no similar agenda to seek out GNOP members of Congress with the sole purpose of going in to cause a disruption at best, a riot if at all possible.
And that is a good thing. (h/t Martha Stewart)
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pmJames Rosen says:
“Believe me viewers, so you will think my lies are true”.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pmJust a couple of “grassroots” websites one by Dick Morris that these people are using
https://secure.conservativedonations.com/ameripac_obamacare2/?a=2824
https://www.newsmaxstore.com/contribute/lav/index.cfm?s=al&promo_code=84E6-1
August 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pmpoor stupid wingers.
how’d they ever get so dumb???????
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stop dressing it up eigen – you’re a sponsor of stupid – no more no less.
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“Fox News directs viewers to town halls hosted by Democrats.”
Come on.. Isn’t it obvious that Fox News, the Victor Frankenstein helper, is contributing to the wingnuts running wild at the Democrats’ healthcare reforms?
The corporate sponsors for Fox News need to pay attention to this because if any of the lawmakers speaking at the events or individuals attending these townhalls are physically harmed, best believe three fingers will be pointed to Fox News.
On a side note: I am glad that the lawmakers are getting creative by holding conference calls to their constituents on healthcare reform. The more of them, the better.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pmI think the way to quiet this tea party mob is to mock them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOhV45z5CN8
Mock the Dummy
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Okay, even though mockthedummy is spamming his own video, that really is funny! And right on point. Well done!
You get a vote up from me, but please don’t come here just to spam. You clearly have something to say.
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pmThe “sleeping” freaks are restless. I am amused by the suggestion that they matter… These are the same sheeple that can be rallied round any pretend hystaria offered. Back in the day they were all freaked out about satanism and daycare center pedophilia…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pmHmmm. I say let’s reestablish those Bush Free Speech Zones.
Then those moronic teabagging window-lickers can yell and scream all they want — and not be able to hurt anyone.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pmass-so-smelly – you’re back?
really think you’re going to burst some bubbles, gain some traction, change some minds???
knock you little hysterical self right out – we’re all sure to appreciate the entertainment.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pmAt the rate the rabid right is going attendees to town hall meetings will have to pass through a gauntlet of law enforcement officers for their personal safety.
The right wing must be so proud of their mobs.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pmWhen good fights evil, evil usually wins, unless good is very careful. [Dr. Leonard McCoy]
Here we have planned ambushes on places of civil discourse.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pmThis is no less tha an attack on democracy. I bet that neo-theocrat Beck is behind this! These people will not be happy without a “benevolent dictator” ruling America.
technology too hard for you guys? Sucks to be such losers that you think you can win with “west side story” as your best shot….heh.
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Hey, who voted me down? Oh, never mind, I see that acehole is here…
PEACE
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Well it wasn’t me Spencer’s mom…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pmYou are all ups to me…
Regarding these town hall hooligans:
They should call 15 minute “recess” every time the shouting interupts communications – fill the time with a Mozart tune or lounge music.
i’d also warn people that if nothing gets done the meeting will be held again within a few days. At least they will have an evening of music to enjoy until the next attemp.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pmWhich kind of libertarians? The tax whining branch or the just let me smoke pot in piece wing? Barr = Libertarian still an equation that cracks me up…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pmOh, db, you do say the nicest things…
*blush*
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pmIf people are faced with repeated visits to town hall until a meeting can be properly conducted, they will not take kindly to hooligans and shouters…
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#42,
it probably wasn’t.
it never is, is it?
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pmI heard a radio caller propose the enlistment of his Veterans’ group to attend these meetings and provide an example of civil behavior. Has anyone heard if there’s any larger mobilization of Veterans?
Or, perhaps, we could enlist biker clubs after Sturgis? No one does crowd control better than soldiers and bikers.
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what’s a “libert”?
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pmLeftside Annie says:
Hmmm. I say let’s reestablish those Bush Free Speech Zones.
That’d go over great, wouldn’t it? Something should be done, restrict to only residents or registered voters or something. Do any sort of ‘Zone’ and you’ll be hearing about Obama’s Concentration Camps within hours, angering gun toting freaks.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pmWell probably the ones that recognize it as a decent pain relief with little to no side effects…
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I think that the real purpose of these mobs is to try to incite the left into fighting back. Then they can use that as n example of how “violent” the left is. There is already a rumor in right wing freeperville that three SEIU “thugs” beat a black conservative so badly at a town hall that he had to be hospitalized. Of course the only place you can find reference to this rumor is on right wing websites. I’m hoping if the unions do get involved, that they keep it non-violent even though I bet they want to teach those thugs a lesson they won’t forget.
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We don’t need “zones” or arbitrary rules. We simply need examples of civilized behavior and dutiful law enforcement.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pmcoord_xfrm says:
Anarchists?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hi RealityCheck…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pmWe don’t need “zones” or arbitrary rules. We simply need examples of civilized behavior and dutiful law enforcement
right. and lots of patience. Remember these people are there to disturb.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pmOops sorry RealityCheck aka John Kerry… How about some sweet Italian links and peppers and onions on a nice Philly hoagie roll?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pmFantasy Troll says:
moronic things…
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What, you didn’t get that from Faux Noise? Or Redstate? :O
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So, I was just thinking… what would freekin Z dir represent – what would those crazy fuks believe?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm—
The grant funding and most inquiry would point towards support of the null hypothesis…
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Wasn’t Molly Ringwald Claire?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pmThe members of these mobs who call themselves “libertarians” are nothing of the sort. They are radical, right-wing, anarchists. They are milling like a hive of ants when the queen dies.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pmThis is not going to end up good.
Tampa is likely going to be just one example of some of these town hall meetings now that both sides have positions to defend. My guess is more Democrat voters are going to be showing up at these meetings, and almost nothing will be accomplished at them.
And if nothing is accomplished, the anti-reform lobbyists have won.
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FOX isn’t ‘reporting” , it is abetting the organization of mobs to disrupt only Democratic Party-led policy discussion with their constituents–-which should include Republican constituents who have a right to discuss the merits or demerits of the health care policy that their elected representatives are supporting or opposing.
It doesn’t automatically follow that a Republican with a Democratic representative automatically opposes the Democratic representative’s position–consider the Blue Dogs.
Whoever on this thread described FOX as “agent-provocateur” (rather than just GOP/corporatist shill) is exactly right.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pmRealityCheck says:
Claire hid from us last time…but this time we will wait until after she speaks for about 5 minutes before we welcome her!
So you’re posting a threat to McCaskill here?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pmI know many veterans, including my closest friends. I don’t know a one who called himself a Democrat before George Bush and I don’t know a one who calls himself a Republican now. The same could be said for most Veterans Associations like the VFW and American Legion. The irrational extremism has driven off most sane vets.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pmgully foyle #7 says: Can we all say agents provocateurs and be done with it?
Ah, there it is! Credit where credit is due. Quite right, gully.
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meanwhile a real reporter has his
credibility hijacked by fox and hannity.
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read about it here.
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purple,
yes he is.
when they lose
they get violent.
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pmHow come none of those new found libertarians can ever explain how Barr came to be the bearer of their flag? Is it that they are just a hodgepodge of unfocused misfits with a few leftover peace loving potheads mixed in…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm#78,
read that back to yourself.
slowly.
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it doesn’t make any sense.
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Libertarians!?
Hey guys, check out my wide selection of aircraft and medicine!!
It’s free from pesky government meddling, and I’m prepared to pass the savings on to you!!!!
Who’s first? How much and how many can I put you down for??
August 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pmwho support taking back freedom, and shrinking the size of government back down to the protection of individual rights.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm–
Would you care to spell out what this means in your mind?
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RC – super nice – hope you get a taste of taser voltage as a great big thank you for being an idiot thug with nothing constructive to offer.
be sure to wear your fire-retardant underpants though – those deputies can get mighty enthused about their crowd-control duties.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pmdbadass says:
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Would you care to spell out what this means in your mind?
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You’re talking to the wrong part of his anatomy.
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tombaker says:
poor stupid wingers.
how’d they ever get so dumb???????
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A steady diet of Faux Snooze, Lush, Beck, O’Rally…
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This is bu11sh1t! Repugs need to grow up and do some critical thinking for once in their lives.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pmeigenVector says:
In my mind, this means a pure separation of economy and state.
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You’re entitled to your own opinion, no matter how pointless, uninformed, or inane it is.
The right to be heard doesn’t necessarily include the right to be taken seriously.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pmeigenVector says:
Thanks… that was really helpful
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You’re welcome.
Clearly, you do NEED HELP, and badly.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pmIn my mind, this means a pure separation of economy and state.
I take it then that you are for the repeal of all inheritance laws and other hereditary entitlements?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pmIt is interesting that serious republicans are distancing themselves from the party as it is. Case in mind, Dwight Eisenhower’s granddaughter publically stated she was no longer a republcan on Bill Maher’s show a few weeks back. As of a year ago. This mob rule will finally ruin the GOP. Who wants to be part of lunancy.
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eigenVector says:
However I am not talking about the libertarian party rather the individuals who support taking back freedom, and shrinking the size of government back down to the protection of individual rights.
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And no doubt, this comes w/ complimentary noise makers and party hats.
Pull my finger… com’on… pull my finger. What are you afraid of?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pmeigenVector,
I appreciate the polite attempt at discourse but, I’m afraid that your positions are so full of inaccurate talking points that I can’t really find the time to address each one.
Suffice to say, I’ve now read an in depth summary of each of the three House bills and a brief summary of a draft of the Senate version. It’s important to note that there is no single consolidated Bill as of yet and they are very much in flux.
None of the draft bills has anything approaching a direct take over of medical care. It’s a myth made up of whole cloth. And the same can be said of the screeching about abortion funding, rationing, government mandates of care, euthanasia, and the return of smallpox.
As for your assessment of various political philosophies? All I can say is that it almost makes sense when a professional like Limbaugh tries it but your arguments don’t sway me from conventional wisdom and historical precedent. I appreciate your effort but your apparent worldview is so opposed to the reality that further discourse is probably futile.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pmeigenVector says:
Perhaps one day you can think on this a little more and realize that there is more to my opinion than a mindless whim that rolled off my fingers, but to each his own.
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Not from the quality of what I’ve seen you post here today.
It’s mostly rhetoric and hyperbole. Silly talk.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pmwell eigen – first I’ll need to know how much money you have, and then what kinds of medicine and aricraft you require.
bigger orders do have some lead-time attached – it sometimes takes myself and my militia of production personnel to bust out bulk medicine or multiple aircraft – but we get it done in good time, because there are no bureaucrats slowing us down with their tedious safety protocols.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pmeigenVector says:
Why? WHy? WHY? These are OUR town hall meetings! Go to your OWN town hall meetings you evil right-wing terrorists!!!
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See? It’s this kind of silly, smug nonsense that makes it impossible to NOT LAUGH at you. Sorry, but you’re a fraud.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm@Republic of Stupidity: “Not from the quality of what I’ve seen you post here today. It’s mostly rhetoric and hyperbole. Silly talk.”
You are correct, it is mostly rhetoric and hyperbole, and of course silly talk. I’m only on this site today for my own personal amusement.
Pete: Yes, my world view is one that does not exist. The way I’d like to see the world only exists in fiction. That does not however deter me from doing what I can with my own abilities and to the best of my abilities.
I am not trying to convince you that your opinion is wrong, but only to provide my own opinion. It is up to you to decide what you want to believe. Whether you wish to seek ideals of ‘progress’ from the democrats or ideals of ‘religion’ from the republicans, or whether you wish to make up your own mind with your own thoughts and your own opinions.
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I might add that libertarianism has lots of appeal but the events of the times argue against it. Many of the problems we face today are the direct result of placing those with the most to gain by cheating in charge of policing themselves. Human greed dictates that a certain percentage will abuse any system that provides an opportunity of enrichment and, unlike natural parasites, humans will gorge until they kill the host.
Anyone looking at the decades-long dismantling of effective regulation and the horrific results would be silly to conclude that less regulation is the cure. A call for less regulation, in the current climate, simply ignores reality.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pmeigenVector says:
You are correct, it is mostly rhetoric and hyperbole, and of course silly talk. I’m only on this site today for my own personal amusement.
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My goodness! Such honesty…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pmYes, I would love to see all of these gone. All of these ‘entitlements.’ Man is not entitled to anything except the right to his own life and his own pursuit of happiness.
And inheritance? Gone?
Great!
So everyone starts off equal, right?
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So is it the governments job to keep the air and water clean? I am getting osrt of cinfused. Should they be doing all that f ucked up defending me of places that posed no threat to me shit? What about deciding who I marry?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pmNow as to the anarchy concept. That is just for kids and eoropean philosphers on absinthe…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:10 pmeigenVector says:
pete: give me one single example of any form of government that ever deregulated?
This is the law that forced the Federal Government to cease oversight of the banking industry with regard to risky financial devices that lead to the housing crisis! Yea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
Here’s an article about how well the era of deregulation ‘worked’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26774653/
Enjoy!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pmbelaccifer lacca says: “And inheritance? Gone? Great! So everyone starts off equal, right?”
Nope. It is up to the individual who worked for his money to decide what happens to it when they die. Certainly not government. When government takes it, that means ‘government’ is entitled to it. In my world view Nobody is entitled to any other man’s property, but if a man wishes to give to charity, then that is 100% up to him. If a man wishes to give his earnings to the government, then that is 100% up to him. If a man wishes to give all his money to his heirs then that is 100% up to him. It is his to enjoy as he pleases because it is he who has worked for it.
Now you may say, but the person who is ‘given money’ did not earn it. But they received it from someone who willingly gave it to them. They did not receive it as extortion from someone else. They did not receive it by use of force.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pmNow you may say, but the person who is ‘given money’ did not earn it. But they received it from someone who willingly gave it to them. They did not receive it as extortion from someone else. They did not receive it by use of force.
Ahh, but now we’re back to an uneven playing field, aren’t we? I thought that ‘Man is not entitled to anything except the right to his own life and his own pursuit of happiness.’
Right?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pmA common misconception of the authoritarian mind is that a wise person “chooses to believe”. In fact, once one “chooses to believe”, one has closed their mind. A wise person questions, then learns, then decides. “Belief” doesn’t even enter the equation.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pmSo Fox is backing the violent, corporate paid for, townhall protesters.
I’m shocked, I tell you. Just shocked.
Fox will, of course, deny any involvement when one of these nutcases goes to a townhall meeting and decides that the only solution to the problem is force.
Oh, and one more thing nutcases: Shouting down my question at a townhall meeting isn’t exercising your freedom of speech. Its denying me that right. Remember, “The right for you to swing your fist in the air, ends where my nose begins.” -Thomas Jefferson.
Oh, wait….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm@belaccifer lacca: “Ahh, but now we’re back to an uneven playing field, aren’t we? Right?”
No, I never said anything about an even playing field. All I said was a man has a right to his ‘own’ playing field, and that playing field is the field that he creates for himself. The man who receives charity is a man who was given it to him by a man who has worked for it, and not from a man who has extorted it from someone else, or from government.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:21 pmDarn it… meant to hit preview and instead hit submit..
August 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pmAll I said was a man has a right to his ‘own’ playing field, and that playing field is the field that he creates for himself.
Okay… what do we do about the Black Hills and all the gold that’s come out of there?
It’s pretty clear that that was taken from the Sioux by force… should the government step in now to redress the grievance? That is their ‘proper’ role, right?
http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/sioux-treaty/
August 7th, 2009 at 5:27 pm@belaccifer lacca: “Okay… what do we do about the Black Hills and all the gold that’s come out of there?
It’s pretty clear that that was taken from the Sioux by force… should the government step in now to redress the grievance? That is their ‘proper’ role, right?”
Now you bring up a GREAT question. One that splits me on half! Gosh I love these kinds of discussions
Okay, my answer is yes. The
August 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pmWhen they’re arresting Rupert Murdoch (Murdoch, wasn’t that always McGyver’s arch nemesis?) for inciting riots and violence, THEN I’ll watch Fox news.
That oughta be a good show.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pmIt would be a shame is when they leave the Town Hall Meetings that their tires didn’t seem to be holding air anymore…a real crying shame.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm@belaccifer lacca: “Okay… what do we do about the Black Hills and all the gold that’s come out of there?
It’s pretty clear that that was taken from the Sioux by force… should the government step in now to redress the grievance? That is their ‘proper’ role, right?”
Now you bring up a GREAT question. One that splits me on half! Gosh I love these kinds of discussions
Okay, my answer is yes. The government should step in and return to the Sioux of the day what was theirs. Now we come to a problem because the government at the time did not do it’s job! The government of the day should have! However, the Sioux of the day do not exist today. Their descendants do, but they are not ‘entitled to it’ because it was not passed down to them. Whether it would have been or not, is speculation. But, it was not the Sioux who mined for the gold. It wasn’t until the late 1800s when the gold was found. The land was taken from the owners, so the land should be returned to those owners. The gold was mined by the legal owners of the day.
However: If the Sioux of today have proof that they have a contract with the prior Sioux that they shall inherit the property, then yes, the land and all the resources stolen from the land must be returned to them.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pmjpreston says: “Sorry. They don’t like what you have to say here.”
I’m not. I have no opinion on what they like or don’t like. That’s for them to decide and not me.
I’m pretty sure my posts will be shot down. But I’m only here for my own entertainment, not to keep my posts ‘alive.’
I post on other sites and they just flag them as ‘under moderation’ and never come back to them. But hey, it’s fun and entertaining. And I enjoy the feedback: the good, the bad and the ugly :)
Thanks!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pmG’nite all!
If the Sioux of today have proof that they have a contract with the prior Sioux that they shall inherit the property, then yes, the land and all the resources stolen from the land must be returned to them.
If someone dies intestate their children inherit.. all they need to prove is they are the descendants of the original legal owners, right?
The land was not mined by the ‘legal owners’ of the day… if you agree that the Sioux were the legal owners those who took over after the land was stolen from the Sioux cannot by that theft, right?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pmAm I the only one to think Vector is about 17, with both parents at work, living at home and reading dad’s old Rush Newsletter and My Little Golden Book of Philosophers . . . ?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pmIt’s only a matter of time before some right wing nutcase shows up at one of these events with a gun and starts shooting. Something bad is going to happen in America soon and it’s going to come from the Right Wing fringe in this country. Book it.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWhat’s wrong? Have you been told not to talk about this? No talking points yet. Haven’t recieved the spin for this incident yet?
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/5420430FDF2036F08625760B00136BBC?OpenDocument
Seems people were arrested… those who got out of hand and violent on both sides should be prosecuted… seems like that’s what’s happening.
What about those who refuse to defuse these situations? Like the head of FreedomWorks… what to do with them?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pmjpreston says:
Maybe you would like to talk about how you filled the hall with Blue Shirts through the back door and closed everyone else out because there wasn’t enough room in the hall.
Is it only a ‘first amendment right’ when the people in the room are Republicans???
August 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pmjpreston says:
How many were put in the hospital and ruffed up and by who?
Seems like that’s what we’re finding out… do Union members not have a right to assemble?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pmWe are talking about the Blue Shirts and what you did.
“Rambo’s” first blood. You can try and change the subject. No talking points yet?
Huh. I didn’t do anything. What’s the Rambo nonsense about???
Are you advocating violence?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pmThe ones organized by the left and who were instructed on how to block the media on what they see.
Is it only ‘free speech’ when people are instructed by the right?
And I don’t mean ‘blue shirts,’ That’s your ridiculous phrase. I mean what I say.
What do you mean by “Rambo’s” first blood?
Are you advocating violence??
August 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pmAgain, how many people have been put in the hospital and by who?
Keep dodging the question.
No- I haven’t. Let’s see the police report… do you have one? Are you advocating violence? I am not.
You keep dodging the question.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pmWhat did you mean by “Rambo’s” First Blood?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:42 pmNo but the left did and carried it out.
Where is the left advocating violence?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:43 pmjpreston says:
Can’t comment on what happened. I’m not surprised. Hypocrite.
I have commented repeatedly… I have said let’s find out who’s responsible and prosecute them.
What did you mean by “Rambo’s” First Blood?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pmFrom your link:
Where’s the violence advocated?
What did you mean “Rambo’s” First Blood???
August 7th, 2009 at 6:47 pmjpreston says:
By their actions when they beat up a guy outside the town hall meeting.
I posted the link. It’s also all over youtube. They arrested the reporter who filmed it but there are too many camera phones out there.
I posted the report from the reporter arrested… where in that story does he say that the ‘left’ was organizing a violent response?
No where.
What did YOU mean when YOU said “RAMBO’S” First Blood???
August 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pmYou were hoping that the first blood would be drawn by the Anti-healthcare protesters.
No- I was hoping there would be no blood.
We don’t need violence… we have the facts on our side.
I think ANYONE who is violent or ADVOCATES any VIOLENCE needs to be arrested… how can I be clearer?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pmInteresting that you admit you’re anti-healthcare though… very interesting.
Also interesting that you refer to a Rambo movie to make your supposed point about non-violence…
Ghandi and King are my models.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pmNo offense, jpreston, but it sounds to me like you invoked the First Blood movie as a means of justification.
Because the Democrats supposedly drew “first blood” here, it will now be perfectly justified for Jack Bauer, er, I mean Rambo, to kill as many on the left as possible. That’s the essence of what you’re saying, no?
“I’ll give you a war you won’t believe.”
August 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pmI’m a peaceful man but it seems that the Lefts Hired Organized Union Thugs are not.
Okay, now you have to show who ‘hired’ these people… I’ll wait.
I doubt you will find that they are on anyone’s payroll, let alone the ‘left’s’
August 7th, 2009 at 7:02 pmIf the lunatic fringe is allowed to disrupt and cancel out the political discourse over health insurance the inmates will end up running the asylum…..
and health industry executives will be laughing all the way to the bank.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pmWhat’s more telling is that you haven’t gotten the talking points for this yet and you vane attempt to change the subject is feeble.
I never receive the talking points… can you tell me where to submit my email address?
I have said that those who commit or advocate violence at these meetings should be prosecuted, left or right.
I’m still curious how you know these were ‘hired thugs?’
Of course, if you can prove the the Union was advocating violence, I’m right there with you in calling for prosecutions… nothing you’ve posted so far does this… in fact, it seems to show the opposite.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:06 pmPiss-ant changing the subject.
Typical.
Change the subject hypocrite.
Have anything other than insults and vague threats? No?
Typical.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:06 pmforget it jpreston
the whole stupid endeavor is blowing up right in the ‘baggers faces
they’re an embarrassment, as are most american “conservatives”
dull-witted lackeys sticking up for the over-privileged, and lobbying hard against their own best interests
man up and get over it, ya crybaby
August 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pmjpreston, if you’d be so kind as to answer my question at #159? Thanks.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:11 pmThe unions hired them.
They may be union members… that’s very different from the union ‘hiring them to beat up people and put them in the hospital.’
I read your link.
I posted the relevant bit… about not ‘getting into shouting matches and staying calm.’
Does that sound like advocating violence to you?
Wanna call me a piss-ant again? It really makes your case look strong!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pmpfffft.
you’re a joke preston
and a poorly crafted one at that
(probably written by a scab comedy writer)
August 7th, 2009 at 7:13 pmI posted no vague threats and the words are discriptive and they only are insults if they don’t apply.
You’re a real winner, aren’t you?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:13 pmSee, the way I remember that movie is after Rambo is wronged, we’re supposed to root for him to kill as many of the other side as possible. Aren’t they cops? Can’t remember. I know David Caruso’s in it.
Anyway, jpreston, help me out with this analogy of yours. Are you saying you’ll be rooting for liberals to get shot? For pissing off the mighty Rambo, how many libs do you think deserve to die?
Honest question here. I’d really like to know how violent this future is that you’re so excited about seeing.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pmNice try at what? It’s your analogy. I want to understand where you’re going with it.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pmWhere have I said that violence was okay, jpreston?
Where have I said that I hoped for any violence?
From the blog you copied the above nonsense from:
That seems unnessarcarily inflammatory to me… much like yourself.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pmYou do realize that this URBAN GROUNDS blogs reporting of the events is not gospel, right?
And that the reporter who was actually arrested has a different account?
Who do you expect will be more accurate?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pmYou don’t want to understand anything. You are just dodging my post. No talking points yet.
You keep saying this… it’s almost as if you have nothing else to say… why is that?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pmHey, the taglines for First Blood are kinda interesting:
One war against one man.
This time he’s fighting for his life.
A one man war.
Is that how you feel these days, jpreston? It seems a lot of people are feeling desperate and outnumbered and persecuted. Which means maybe, they have no choice but to “fight back.” You know, the way that hero of yours Rambo did.
There’s always a choice, though.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pmWhy won’t any of you comment on what happened? Really, you must have an opinion about the left attacking a black man.
Can you read?
I’m against violence. I’m against advocating violence. I want those responsible for acts of violence on ALL sides of this issue to be prosecuted.
Can you read this?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 pmSo you condone the actions of the Purple Shirts SEIU union thugs.
So you can’t read. That explains it.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pmThat’s not true. I genuinely want to know the meaning of your choice of First Blood as a way of describing this situation.
Actually, I asked you my question before you asked me yours, but whatever.
I think it’s unfortunate, as there’s no call for physical violence on either side. It’s the responsibility of both sides to keep things cool.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pmGee, I don’t know how to break this to you chief, but the term ‘First Blood” did not originate with the movie Rambo.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pmGreat! Now comment on the fact that it was a leftist, Organized group, bussed to the Meeting, given special treatment by the Democratic party, and commited violence.
Can you show that the Union was advocating violence? ‘Cause everything you’ve posted so far FROM the Union shows the opposite… weird.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pmWell I watched the video and from what you can tell from the video you can’t tell who threw the first punch troll, so as usual you’re just lying.
On another note, I can’t help but notice that as soon as the liberals in this video stood up to your “angry mob”, the big brave republicans started crying and calling for the police.
Yesterday you clowns were in here bragging about how liberals won’t show or stand up to you.
Now we see that like most bully’s, as soon as someone stands up to you, you guys run like cowards.
:D
So much for the big brave republican protesters.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pmif people show up at a town a hall with the intention of obstructing and preventing it, and have only screaming to contribute, they shouldn’t be shocked when they’re manhandled out of the way, and that’s all the treatment they’re due.
they’re lucky they didn’t get tasered and hauled off to jail.
There were 6 arrests at another TH recently, and once the message is out that mobs will be dealt with, the whole thing will blow over like the dandelion fluff it is.
(except for some wild-eyed righty killing someone – that’ll still happen somewhere for sure)
August 7th, 2009 at 7:50 pmHuh. I’v watched it twice… I see an altercation and people trying to get the police’s attention… I fail to see an organized effort to attack people… nothing looks organized at all, really.
You seeing things?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pmGot your asses kicked and cried to the police.
No doubt we’ll be seeing more of this, because most people probably aren’t going to put up with your bullying tactics.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pmI made my point.
Ahh, good. We’ve reached the stage where you declare ‘victory’ and go home… well done.
When you are ready to talk about the issues like an adult you can come back, bye now!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pmHere, for anyone who wants a good laugh, here’s the big brave republican protesters crying to the police and cowering from the same crowd they tried to harass and intimidate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqpfU_AC7Ls
Yea, real tough guys.
:D
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pmI could care less if everyone of your bully protesters gets their asses kicked.
When you go looking for trouble you usually find it.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:56 pmpreston – you and your ilk are pathetic, unrepentent crybabies, for whom “working the ref” comes second nature
craven competitors from the opening whistle – you cheat, then claim you’ve been cheated out of thin air. you’re pansies who cry foul when at last they taste a little of their own bitter medicine
the “game” you’re clumsily trying to play here is as old as the hills, and as shop-worn as a sunset strip tranny hooker. it’s especially sad and shameful the way you delight in “workin’ it” when it’s something that couldn’t be more cliche. exactly what turnip truck did you just hop off, to think anyone here would buy your sad little story for even a second?
man up and move on – life’s too short to spend it the way you are.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pmAnother dodge. You are not capable of talking about the issues. You dodge pretty good though.
Are you capable of reading? When will you show me where this was an organized effort to attack this man by the Union?
I’m waiting…
You did link to a web-site encouraging RIGHT WING ACTIVISTS to arrive armed at these meetings, however. Interesting…
August 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pmYou did link to a web-site encouraging RIGHT WING ACTIVISTS to arrive armed at these meetings, however. Interesting…
Correction… you posted an unattributed quote… there was no link… I had to find it myself.
Can you find a union page advocating the same?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:00 pmListen to the whiny little troll.
Big bad tough republican “tea-baggers” out shouting down every liberal meeting they can find, and now the little sissy is in here crying about “talking about the issues”.
Newsflash punk.
When you stop your bully tactics of shouting down meetings then come talk to us about “talking about the issues”.
Until then, we’ll be looking for more videos on YouTube of republican rioters getting their assess handed to them.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:00 pmso righty j. preston the 3rd isn’t a staunch advocate of Law and Order??
wtf stripe of conservative do you fraudulently claim to be??
it sounds like you’re the 8-pounds-of-shit-in-a-5-pound-sack type to me.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pmQuit lying troll.
I said I could care less what happens to pieces of sh$t like you.
Learn to read troll.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:02 pmYou guys want to go out and try to harass and intimidate liberals and act like thugs?
Then don’t come crying to us when you get back what you put out.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:04 pmjpreston says:
How about violence on a black man minding his own business handing out flags on the sidewalk obstructing no one?
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Sorry, but the video i saw of that wasn’t very conclusive or convincing.
Spin away, Li’l Feller… spin away.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:06 pmListen to the troll whine.
Big bad tough republican’s want to stir up trouble and harass and intimidate others.
Then when someone stands up to them?
They whine like little wimps.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pmWatch the video.
Done. Three times. It don’t show what you say it shows. At all.
Show the SEIU advocating violence. It’s not on that video, that’s for sure… and it’s not on the website you linked to… as I’ve already posted that memo encourages people to stay calm and not engage in shouting matches… do you read your own links? Are you watching a different video?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pmsod off – and watch your party rot
i’m watching the video of the brooks brothers riot.
and after that, Matewan.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pmtombaker says:
sod off – and watch your party rot
i’m watching the video of the brooks brothers riot.
and after that, Matewan.
This one thinks that John Sayles is where you get a good deal on a toilet… he has no ability to reason or relate to anything but ‘Rambo’s’ First Blood, unfortunately.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:10 pmjpreston says:
You make me sick.
The feeling is mutual.
Have anything showing the UNION leadership advocating violence in any way, yet?
Didn’t think so… do you understand your own argument?
Didn’t think so.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pmjpreston says:
Which thugs are you talking about?
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No, no… you’re confused… AGAIN.
Heh… you just gotta be ***YOU***, huh?
He was referring to the Rent-a-Brownshirts the Republican operatives have been bussing in, to deliberately disrupt and intimidate. You know, the ones who get their marching orders from Glen Beck.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pmWell well well, if it isn’t my old friend jpreston. I see you are bringing your fascism back yet again. I look forward to humiliating you yet again.
Apparently the fascist theocratic Republicans want violence. I suspect they are going to get it.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:14 pmNo, the scumbag protesters who got it handed back to them on the video you referred us to.
Didn’t you watch it troll?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:14 pmjpreston says:
Don’t worry though, he will be on the TV lying thru his teeth and the video will show what a liar he is.
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You’re an idiot. I feel sorry for you. Oh, and a hypocrite too.
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Whoa… CLASSIC projection.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pmjpreston, a question… why are you dodging my request for you to find some evidence of the Union advocating violence of any kind?
It’s a puzzle.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pmNo, your mother was an idiot for not aborting you when she had the chance.
As for the video, we saw it and the video doesn’t show anything that you claim it shows.
What it does show, is that people are getting fed up with the republicans running around threatening everyone.
What it does show, is what happens when a group of thugs goes running around the country trying to bully and intimidate people.
Keep looking for trouble, and trying to stir people up to anger, and chances are you’ll get exactly what you put out.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pmi’m glad you’re sick, jpreston
i hope it lasts through the weekend.
and keep right on with the crazy righty jabber – it only pushes more independent minded people over to the D’s anyway.
you’re the Left’s best recruiting tool.
and fundraiser.
(and punching bag)
August 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pmFascism is a right wing ideology, not a left wing one.
And you do realize you’re in a thread about neocon scumbags calling up the SEIU and threatening to SHOOT them, right?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:20 pmNow I know why the right wing is so big on gun rights and so afraid of losing their guns.
:|
Because the only time these cowards are really “tough” is when they’ve got a gun in their hand.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:21 pmSorry, the SEIU thread is one over. This one is about FOX NEWS rallying these protesters around the country to go and attack and harass liberals.
Wonder if FOX will be held accountable when someone really gets hurt at one of these things?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pmYou people don’t get it. You guys blew it. Obama’s job approval rating is 50 %. You pissed the people off this time.
Okay, we’ll see you in 2010 when the economy is turned around and these health care reforms have started to work for people!
Good luck!
You guys are gonna need it.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pmjpreston, if there’s one thing I’d like you to take away from this, it’s that by trolling here you are hoping to provoke. You want there to be more violence instead of less. It’s irresponsible.
I would invite you to think about how many ways everyone you and I know and love will suffer. If it goes from bad to worse and there’s rioting in the streets, just take a moment and think about all the ways it could play out and how bad it could go. If you could do that with honesty, and think about wanting to spare your loved ones that horror, maybe you wouldn’t be trolling here. Maybe you’d be helping people to calm down and not trying to rile them up.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pmThis troll’s got some stamina.
Not much in the way of game. Or style. Or even intellectual capacity.
But he’s got stamina. Particularly when it comes to the “it’s true because I say it is X infinity” gambit.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:27 pmOh we get it troll.
We get that you’re the same troll that’s been in this blog since day one, paid (or volunteer) by the RNC to sit here and do what the town hall meeters do. Shout down the discussion and sow right wing talking points.
We also get that if you keep running around threatening people, telling everyone how “pissed off” you are, that you’re going to end up trying to bully the wrong guy or guys.
Just like we saw in the video, where one of your tea baggers got back what he was putting out.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:27 pmjpreston,
You and your fascists are exposed to every American. You can pretend that Democrats are bussing people in, when there is overwhelming evidence that it is the wingnuts that are bussing in brownshirts.
You and your fascist movement are doomed to failure, regardless if you use violence or not. They is why you are resorting to violence now, it is your last resort.
You know your party is finished, and still try to defend the indefensible. It’s time to start rounding up these fascist wingnuts and imprison them for as long as possible.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pmOh, Trollspotter, that’s an admirable approach, but one that will be completely wasted on the right-wing troll.
I suppose he may actually HAVE some loved ones, but it’s clear he’s unable to empathize with any of them, which is what you’re asking.
“Empathy” is a dirty word to them these days, doncha know.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:29 pmI said “really hurt” troll.
The big republican pu$$y got knocked down.
He got a little “boo boo”.
And and the rest of the “angry republican protesters” there cried like he’d been killed or something.
I always knew you guys were pu$$y’s.
You know how you can tell?
It’s always the group who goes around telling everyone how tough they are.
They always turn out to be the pusses.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:30 pm(he’s one of those very dumb and very committed units)
August 7th, 2009 at 8:32 pmA phone call threatening to murder people.
Something that’s actually happened recently, in that church where a neocon went in and murdered people because they were “liberals”.
You guys are punks. Cowards and punks.
You’re out in force, screaming like raving fools, threatening people and shouting down liberal speakers, and all over the fact that you “good Christians” are so damned petty, stingy and selfish that you can’t spare a few of your measly tax dollars to give to the poor.
And when someone stands up to you?
Like most bullies you immediately start blubbering and calling for help.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:33 pmAre you threatening me troll?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:35 pmjpreston says:
This is “Think Fast”. All subjects are allowed.
Uhh, actually it’s not.
Any word on that link to the UNION advocating violence in any way yet?
It’s just that you seemed so sure that it existed…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:36 pmjpreston,
Even if a wingnut got the crap beat out of him, it does not justify the violent confrontations the GOP and you yourself are advocating. It is irrational to blame all the Democrats because a wingnut was injured. You crazy fascist theocratic Republicans are begging to get physically pummeled much like the way you were pummeled at the polls.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:36 pmWas what a threat?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pmjpreston says:
Be a man and answer me.
Can you man up and find that link?
That’d be great… thanks.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pmWell troll?
I’m waiting.
Was what a threat?
Show us a “threat”.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:39 pmjpreston says:
Stupid and closed minded.
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Whoa… CLASSIC projection… AGAIN…
Sorry, dude, but yer a loooooooser.
More than one of us have looked at that video today. It simply does NOT show what you keep claiming it does. it doesn’t even come close to supporting the spin you’re so desperately trying to sell here.
belaccifer lacca asked you why are you dodging his request for you to find some evidence of the Union advocating violence of any kind?
Since you have NONE, you just duck it. It’s not like that teabagging fool in Texas twittering about bringing guns to town halls, is it?
Sooooooooo… since you have nothing to back up your silly claims, you resort ot name calling and petty insults:
“Go look at my posted links piss-ant.”
“You’re an idiot. I feel sorry for you. Oh, and a hypocrite too.”
“Stupid and closed minded.”
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So sorry, Li’l Feller… but that’s pretty much admitting you got NO GAME…
NEXT!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:39 pmum, jpreston?
are all the people balding, paunchy white men with trucker caps, and their ratty-haired, house-dressed bluehaired opposite-gendered counterparts?
i know i don’t get out much, but when i do i only see one or two people like that around town, and a fair # of those have Obama stickers on their cars.
(is this one of those role-playing games, where we’re working in a different “world”?)
if so, i apologize for berating you.
but seriously, where do you live, that those are “the people”? Waco? One of its “suburbs”?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pmWell troll?
I’m still waiting. Feel free to produce the “threat” or admit that you’re even a bigger pu$$y than we all assumed.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:41 pmjpreston,
Why are you surprised people might want to threaten you? You are a fascist traitor, and threaten the security of the Unites States of America. You are lucky Democrats are nice enough not to have you hung for your treason.
If I were you I would stop trying to provoke people, because if you succeed, you could end up getting exactly what you are asking for.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pmMan… Teh Stupid just flows like wine w/ this one…
***TRoS leaps to his feet and applauds wildly***
BRAVO!!!! BRAVO!!!!
Mag-farking-nificent peformance!!!!!
You are truly a Troll’s Troll.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pmNo, but your mother was for having sex with a Chimpanzee.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pmActually it is.
Read that thing at the top of the page… it should look something like this…
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/07/fox-directs-viewers/
Does that look like the ThinkFast thread to you?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pmNo wonder you can’t interpret your own video link…
No one threatened him.
No one even remotely threatened him.
No one even said “boo” to him.
He apparently is delusional, or a liar.
:|
Or both.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:44 pmjpreston says:
When Union thugs beat you up then they are advocating violence. Are you a moron?
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More projection.
He’s got nothing, boys. He’s gonna go on like for HOURS… until Mummy comes home and kicks him off the dial-up.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:44 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
No wonder you can’t interpret your own video link…
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It would also seem he can’t read either.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pmNo wonder you can’t interpret your own video link…
Or rather, you can interpret it… you’ve been ‘interpreting’ it for hours and rather creatively… let me know when you recognize that this is NOT the ThinkFast thread and then we can discuss what constitutes ‘advocating of violence by the union’ okay?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:47 pmjpreston wants people to threaten him. That is part of the strategy of this whole astroturf campaign. The fascist theocrats want to instigate as much violence as they can, so they can claim Democrats started it, and then they will all attack innocent Americans on all fronts.
The fascist theocrat Republicans are planning to start a civil war, mark my words.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pmWell come on “jpreston” troll.
Come on, don’t quit now.
Lets see some more of that bogus smuggery you were so freely exhibiting before.
Let’s here some more of your mocking of everyone and your right wing nonsense.
The night is young.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pm:|
Once more, where’s the threat?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pmYou mean you are afraid of someone predicting that if you continue to bully and intimidate people some of them might stand up to you?
To you that’s a “threat”?
:|
And you’re telling ME to “be a man”?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pmI don’t think you know what a man is.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:55 pmcareful wayne,
he’ll sic his grandma on ya!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pmjpreston, if you want people to threaten you, just say so. I am sure we could all come up with various threats we would love to carry out on you, and the rest of your ilk. We want to keep our democracy intact, and you seem to want to tear it apart because you aren’t in the majority anymore.
Get over it. You lost, and you lost big. The future of the GOP looks grim as more and more Americans come to realize how soulless you, and those you represent, really are.
You fascist theocrats are out of power for at least a generation, and if you think violence is going to change that, then bring it on. I for one would love to stop typing and take out the trash.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:56 pmHere.
I’ll predict it again.
Just like your father used to tell you (in between tapping the prostitute next door and swilling down Pabst Blue Ribbon), if you go looking for trouble, sooner or later you’re likely to find it.
If you go out to harass and intimidate people, don’t be surprised if they start standing up to you.
:|
Don’t like it?
Don’t go looking for it.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:57 pmI’m telling my mom that you’re a stink, jpreston!!
AND A BUTT!
(this is like having pee wee herman do a troll cameo)
August 7th, 2009 at 8:57 pmjpreston,
What leftist purple shirts? Please provide some evidence that there were any purple shirts involved.
As for you flagging someone for threatening you, who cares? You deserve to be threatened, and for those threats to be carried out.
As for me being an idiot, you are welcome to your opinion in this country, but ignorance cannot be used as a defense at your treason trial.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:59 pmYeah. It’s disappointing for sure.
When I was a kid, I never once imagined that the land I loved would someday have millions of people in it fighting hard to make “empathy” a dirty word.
Doesn’t look think they’re winning that fight, though.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pmWHAT??????
You are a liar. I did not threaten you in any way, shape or form.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pmHow is that a threat?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pmjpreston,
I realize it is difficult for you to be honest, it is not in the nature of a fascist to worry about the truth, but can you at least admit that Republicans are using Nazi style brownshirt tactics?
I don’t expect you to do anything but to project the sins of the fascist theocrat Republicans on Democrats, because that is all you wingnuts ever do.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pmFirst, you’d have to be admitting to being one of the “angry protesters” for that comment to even APPLY to you.
Second, it’s not a threat to predict what SOMEONE ELSE might if you go looking for trouble.
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Boy, we really are getting a glimpse into the pussification of the neocon right tonight.
What a pu$$y.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pmOh Oh Oh This looks like fun, can I threaten someone too?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pmJpreston,
The video does not show what anyone’s political affiliation is. If you have any other evidence please present it or you are simply being disingenuous. Not that I expect you to do anything other than spout wingnut talking points, but I will make the offer anyway.
After all, if there really were “purple shirts” there, you should have more evidence than a video which is open to interpretation. Either you do, or you do not, which is it?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pmIf the news reports I see are not fake, like that footage of the moon landing was (right jpreston?), then the average age of the “healthbagger” appears to be 72.
Therefore, in another 20 years (whether lefties have them killed by robots in their sleep (and, probably, they will)) there ought to be be about 14 “conservatives” left in the U.S., given that kids have been naturally moving to the left of their parents, politically, for the last 400 years.
I’ll take that as good news.
Sucks to be a Righty, I reckon.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pmLol, you’re joke troll.
And I already flagged you for abuse for making false claims about threats when clearly there was no threat, and I encourage my fellow TP’rs here to do likewise.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pmMan, this jpreston troll is one terrified little pussy. He sees threats everywhere.
“Is that a threat? Is THAT a threat?”
Jeez. Reading comprehension might help, but I suspect this one was born to be scared.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pmDifficult?
So far it looks like it’s impossible.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:11 pm@289 – Rich – I’m pretty sure you just did, but let’s ask jpreston anyway.
jpreston, were you just “totally threatened” by Rich’s inquiry re: threatening??
if so, we’ll totally mark that down on the Official Register of Slights to jpreston, and submit it to the officials.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pmI haven’t seen any threats, but I’ve sure read alot of whining about threats.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pmFascists like jpreston cannot accept reality so they live in an alternate reality, where they are not a super minority, where violence will solve their problems and where insults gain political points.
Sorry jpreston, your political philosophy is history. You fascist theocratic Republicans will be remembered by history as the group that finally broke the two party stalemate in the United States, and for that we thank you.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:13 pmWho was the all time threat maker, John Kerry?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:14 pmjpreston and all you other trolls reading this:
Why are you on a blue blog trying to cause a fight at such a volatile time in America’s history? I understand you get a cheap buzz from trolling and some of you are tragically addicted to it, but come on. Take off your troll hats for one freaking second and think about the long term consequences of trying to provoke more violence instead of less.
If we went all out, think about all the blood both sides would shed. You really want that horror? It sounds like a good idea to you?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:16 pmI’m sorry if I scared you troll.
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Guess if you’re that scared of someone pointing out that people might start “standing up to you” then maybe you guys better stop with the “anger and intimidation rallies” now, huh?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pmFYI
August 7th, 2009 at 9:17 pmI got a robo call from Senator Vitter’s (R-LA) office that he will be holding a town hall meeting on Monday, 8/10 at 10:00 am at the Jefferson Parish Offices (Yenni Building) near New Orleans. He intends to discuss the government takeover of health care. (yes, it said “takeover”)
All are invited.
No one “beat the guy up”.
A scuffle ensued and he fell down or was pushed down.
That doesn’t constitute in my neck of the woods “getting beat up”.
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Although I’m sure it does in yours.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:19 pmBy the way, if you’re so frightened of me and my words, why are you still here?
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Jus sayin….
August 7th, 2009 at 9:19 pmjpreston says:
The video shows them and they were arrested for the assault.
It’s all on tape.
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Actually, it’s not. More than one of us have looked at that tape, and it doesn’t show what you keep desperately claiming it does.
Six people were arrested, according to the St Lo police.
No names were given.
Two men were arrested for ALLEGEDLY assaulting a thrid man, handing out flags. No charges have been actually yet. there is NO MENTION by the St Lo PD as to UNION affliliation of the two men arrested.
“Gladney … said he had been hired by the Tea Party folks to hand out the flags.
Gee… did the Tea Baggers hope something this would happen, or did they PLAN IT?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pmI know why jpreston is worried about being threatened. All the fascist theocrat Republicans are worried right now. They have awakened the sleeping giant of the American People, and we are very angry.
We have removed them from power, and we will remove the rest of them until they are just a footnote in a history book. You bet they are scared, because they are afraid some of our laws might soon be applied to them, and they will be hanged for their treason.
Personally, I do not think hanging is a good punishment for the treasonous behavior of fascist theocratic Republicans. I think crucifixion would have a much stronger impact.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pmSeriously jpreston, really, I’m sorry if you’re frightened.
Are you alone? Is someone there with you?
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Someone hold him.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pmOh please, if anyone was wearing a Union t-shirt and was found to be assaulting anyone – rest assured it would be some republican operative trying to get on tape to plaster all over the internet.
Is this what little j is upset about? Absolutely laughable.
Now get home j and hide behind your mother’s apron.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pmLevi, you should totally stop threatening j’preston with your ultra-violence.
I don’t want anyone being treated the way Righties treat the people they’re scared of.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pmjpreston said,
I have an army T-shirt, does that mean I am in the Army? You know it does not. I do not know if these “purple shirts” really were SEIU union people or not, and neither do you. It is quite possible that the fascist theocrat Republicans would plant people with SEIU T-shirts and made sure they beat someone up, just to score political points. Fascist theocrat Republicans are well known to do just this sort of stunt.
As for your claim that the Democratic Party asked them to attend, do you have any evidence to support this claim? Please provide an unbias link proving it.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:26 pmI don’t know Tom, I keep hitting the refresh button on my computer and all these strange words come up somehow and they don’t agree with me.
I’m scared.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pmOne word:
moron
August 7th, 2009 at 9:31 pmLevi the Dungbeetle says:
As for your claim that the Democratic Party asked them to attend, do you have any evidence to support this claim? Please provide an unbias link proving it.
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And who the hell and “Grandam and Grandpa”?
Whose grandma and grandpa are they?
We do know the guy who got roughed up was HIRED by the teabaggers to do what he did. He himself said so.
But back to granny and gramps… can they produce valid birth certificates?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pmWe’re wondering what you’re still doing here.
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People who feel “threatened” don’t usually sit and “chit chat” with their “threateners”.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pmI have tried very hard not to threaten jpreston. jpreston is here to pick a fight, and I am more than happy to engage him, either on a verbal battlefield or a literal one.
I am not a Christian, so I do not hold to the belief that life is precious. If the fascist theocrat Republicans want a civil war, I will not be taking prisoners.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pmWaynebro,
Must have been Stockholm syndrome.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pmWhy do I get the feeling j sits in the dark of mummy’s basement watching too many reruns of “Walker, Texas Ranger”. Then, when he’s all steamed up, he marches to the keyboard and starts pounding and pounding away… oh, and occasionally posting a message online with his free hand, too.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:35 pmRich H says:
Must have been Stockholm syndrome.
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Actually, I think it’s prolly more a case of “Mummy’s Stockings Syndrome”, if ya know what I mean…
August 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pmhey j’preston
want to know something cool about democracy?
something that’s practiced here on these threads?
eventually,
you get
erased.
(and that’s not a threat – it’s what’s happening to all your posts)
buh…..
wait for it……
bye.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pmAny voice is allowed here that’s looking for an open, honest debate. You didn’t come for that. You came here to rile people up because you want too see violence in the future. Tempers are high on both sides, so don’t be surprised if you get your wish.
See the problem here? You come here and try to get people angry. It’s not a good long term strategy.
And here you are doing all you can to divide it further. Why?
And you don’t speak for the nation, jpreston. You don’t and you know it.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:38 pmWe are?
The guy in the video wasn’t injured.
Couldn’t see a scratch on him.
Didn’t hear anything about him being “put in the hospital”.
However YOUR crowd, the Neocons, have murdered hundreds if not thousands of Americans over the years.
You gunned down a doctor a month or so ago.
You gunned down a minister and a bunch of church goers just for being “liberal”.
You’ve threatened the President, Congress members, Glenn Beck made a joke on TV about assassinating Nancy Pelosi, and you’re now out in force, threatening and harassing liberals at town halls across the country.
And now you’re in here whining like a little puss, fabricating threats where there are none and trying take your methods and accuse us of them.
In other words, you suck troll.
Send in the next one.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:40 pmI regret I was too late to witness the entire debacle that was j, the rabble rousing pansy.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pmSo?
The protesters have been harassing and even threatening or assaulting liberal speakers.
I hope they bring a hundred more like them to the next meeting you “tea-baggers” plan on overthrowing.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:46 pmIn fact, I’ll be happy to chip in for his bail so he can get out in time to attend the next meeting your RNC paid thugs plan on attending.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:48 pmjpreston said,
I asked you to provide a link to prove what you are saying, not to hear you repeat it again. Repeating it over and over does not make it true, not matter how well that works at fascist theocratic Republican rallies.
If you cannot back up your propaganda with unbiased sources, then you lose all credibility, not that you had any to begin with.
Your political philosophy is finished jpreston. I know it hurts to lose not just an election but an entire political movement, but that is reality. When you choose to be fascist, Americans will always vote against you.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:49 pmOnce again, so?
He showed no injuries in the video. He was waving his arms around fine.
The fact that he scraped his knee or scratched his elbow when he fell down doesn’t constitute getting “beaten up”.
And what HE says is moot anyway.
He already admitted to being paid to be there to stir up trouble (I doubt he was handing out flags when the attack happened). No doubt this was simply what is known in legal terms as a “mutually combatant situation” and the guy got what he went looking for.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pmI think most people won’t. If it comes to that. But it’s one thing to be ready for it, quite another to try and urge it into happening. I wish the trolls could absorb that.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pmEven if Kenneth Gladney claims he was injured, and was assaulted, he cannot be trusted. He is admittedly a paid Republican shill. Nothing he says can be taken at face value.
We learned not to trust fascist theocrat Republicans when Bush and Cheney told us they knew Saddam had WMDs. We learned a difficult lesson that cost about 5000 American lives and over 100,000 Iraqi lives.
Republicans are liars at their core. They will lie about anything to score political points, even if their nation burns because of it. Americans will never again trust the word of a fascist theocrat Republican.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pmWhat beatings?
The guy fell down or was knocked down and got a boo boo.
We’ll mail him a band aid.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pmI don’t know if they were organized to be there or not, but I’ll tell you this.
I sure HOPE they were.
I sure HOPE the democrats are finally starting to stand up to you right wing thugs.
If there were “organized to be there”, then GOOD ON THE ORGANIZERS.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pmoh,
it’s one of those “slip-and-fall” cases?
then they’ll need a good trial lawyer,
but wait!
trial lawyers are the devil to righties!
(classy operation there, righty)
August 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pmIf the Democratic Party did ask the SEIU to provide security, it was a mistake. They should have had security provided by heavily armed riot police instead.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pmI thought j went home to pull the covers over his head, why’s he still here? Didn’t he just say he was leaving?
Funny stuff j, you and your cohorts go around 24 hours a day threatening and killing innocent americans then you come here and say you “feel” threatened.
I’d feel threatened to if I felt the world turning against me. Why don’t you tell us what that feels like?
Frankly, you and your ilk will (sadly) reap what you’ve sowed. Too bad your party hasn’t sowed any good will.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:03 pmVoicing their 1st Amendment rights is not “shouting down” other peoples right to voice theirs.
That has nothing to do with the first Amendment.
As for “putting people in the hospital”, just think.
If that happens, at least now they’ll have health coverage.
:D
August 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pmI do not make up “soties”.
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And if I am a “little boy” as you claim, what does that say for the fact that I can spell and you cannot?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pmBy the way, weren’t you writing TP management and claiming I was threatening you?
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If that was true, then why are you still talking to me?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pmOr were you making false reports and bearing false witness against me?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:08 pmwaynebro,
can you reply to j for me? I’m scared.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pmLol, they have a copy of every post Einstein.
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It’s their blog.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pmSure.
Jpres? I just stood up for you.
Rick says you stink and I told him like sh$t you do.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:15 pmjpreston says:
y you will grow up some day kido.
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A little more info on the St Lo dust up:
SEIU-Missouri Statement on Last Night’s Healthcare Town Hall Meeting
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Published August 7, 2009 6:58 PM
Brandon Davis, 314-600-5407
St. Louis – Today, the SEIU Missouri State Council released the statement of Executive Director Brandon Davis:
“Last night, in St. Louis, a Reverend and SEIU member was assaulted at a town hall dedicated to discussing our national healthcare crisis. The incident, along with a town hall in Tampa, Florida, has been all over the radio and cable news shows. GOP operatives are rushing to paint it as SEIU thug violence. That couldn’t be further from the truth.
“In fact, the Reverend, a St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter, and others who attended in hopes of a peaceful dialogue about our nation’s healthcare crisis, endured the latest attempt by right-wing fringe groups to hijack the democratic process through violence if necessary. Last night, the Teabaggers’ violent tactics broke and dislocated the shoulder of the Reverend.
http://www.seiu.org/2009/08/seiu-missouri-statement-on-last-nights-healthcare-town-hall-meeting.php
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Not quite story j’s been desperately peddling the last couple of hours, huh?
I’m sure the truth will come out. S/b interesting to see who’s telling the truth and who’s lying.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pmjpreston said,
August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 pmWhen the fascist theocratic Republicans cannot attack you physically or threaten to attack you, they insult you. It’s not going to work jpreston, America is on to you and your kind and we aren’t going to tolerate it anymore.
Yea?
Well funny, they’ve never said word one to me. In fact, Faiz and myself have emailed each other many times, and I’ve never heard anything about it.
And given their commitment to morality, I’m guessing what they really don’t like, are right wing trolls coming in trying to start trouble, then falsely accusing someone of making threats.
I’ll bet they frown on that.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:24 pmGee, is jpreston still whining about being threatened?
One would have thought that after hours of posting comments on a blog and having no harm come to him through the folks he’s insulting, he’d have recognized that they could not harm him, and would breathe a little easier.
I guess that takes a little higher brain function than jpreston can muster.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pmThis is just a guess, but I’m betting that, if it fit his ideology, jpreston could watch last year’s Super Bowl on his DVR and insist that Arizona won it.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pmjpreston said,
An approval rating of 50% is incredibly high at this point in Obama’s presidency, especially given that he has black skin. I guess if you feel the childish need to win some kind of political point by pointing out his approval ratings have fallen slightly, it just shows how desperate you fascists have become, clutching at any straw, hoping to stay afloat.
It’s not going to work. The fascist theocratic Republican Party has been exposed for all its evil. Granny and Grampa didn’t keep you in power in 2008 and they won’t get you back in power in 2010 or 2012.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:30 pmHelp me out with what?
You honestly think someone over at TP is so incredibly stupid as to let a right wing troll play them?
They can see my comments.
And as every other poster in here has pointed out, there was no threat.
Not even remotely.
So all we have left, is a little puss of a troll who can’t handle debating me so he lies and hopes the management at TP is too stupid to read.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:31 pmhmmmmm, troll?
Are you there troll?
:|
I’m checking my inbox and I don’t see any messages yet from TP warning me about “threats”.
:|
You sure you spelled everything correctly in your complaint?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pmjpreston,
I am waiting for you to provide evidence that the Democratic Party asked SEIU to provide security for the town hall meeting. I don’t expect you will provide any proof, because you have none. You are just parroting lies, again.
When will you wingnuts realize that your lies are transparent, and they have cost you everything. More lies will not restore you to political power.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:34 pmNo, you’re a liar.
That’s the only problem.
You’ve shown no threats from me whatsoever nor have I even remotely made any.
All you’ve done is prove that the republicans will lie whenever they can’t handle the debate.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pmWell we’re not, so get to it.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pmjpreston said,
What kind of crazy uses the saying “the bloom is off the rose”? Most pundits say the honeymoon period is over, and I agree. But Obama’s approval rating is still incredibly high given that his honeymoon is over. Not that approval ratings mean much at this point. If you want to look at his approval rating, wait until the next presidential election. Right now, it’s just troll droppings.
You are right that Americans will not stand for their grandparents being beaten on national television, so you should not send them to any more town halls inciting violence. If the fascist theocrat Republicans think putting ignorant elderly people in harms way is going to earn you the sympathy of the American people, you are sadly mistaken, again.
You are right, Obama is not going to be re-elected by just Democrats, he will be re-elected by the independants that have fled the Republican Party in droves. You wingnuts just don’t get it, the more you push, the less independants that support you.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:46 pmYou’re a liar.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:48 pmWAYNEBRO says:
jpreston says:
Not just a threat willie but a personal threat of violence.
Here, once more to show you what a liar you are.
HERE is my comment you claim was a “personal threat of violence”.
No where was there ANYTHING threatening. Predicting that IF “you guys” (NOT PERSONAL, UNLESS YOU ARE MORE THAN ONE PERSON INHABITING A SINGLE BODY) keep going around starting trouble that you eventually will end up messing with the wrong person, is in NO WAY a personal threat of violence.
You are thus proven for all to see, a LIAR.
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LIAR.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pmjpreston said,
You continue to repeat your point, and continue to fail to back it up. I have made no effort to disprove what you are claiming, I just want to keep an open mind and see if what you are saying is true. Apparently it is not because you cannot or will not provide a link as evidence.
Now I can understand why, when you are asked to provide evidence, you need to resort to name calling. It is the motus operandi for the fascist theocratic Republicans.
When you are able to stop throwing around trite insults, you might be a worthy opponent. As it is you are just making the plight of the fascist theocratic Republican Party just a little bit worse.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:54 pmSaying that the teabaggers and protesters would end up bullying the wrong person in no way constitutes a threat to you.
But, on the other hand thanks for admitting what a pu$$y you are.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:55 pmjpreston said,
The last time I was at the grocery store, I was wearing my Obama 2008 T-shirt. I was approached by two elderly men, both of whom wanted to discuss the political situation in our country, and both of them said they would never vote for a Republican again.
How do you think that is going to work out for you fascists?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:58 pmWrong scumbag. It’s YOU who have to “convince them”. Willie.
In this country, the US, the accused doesn’t have to prove himself innocent.
The ACCUSER (that’s you) has to prove him guilty.
And so far you’ve proven nothing other than you’re a liar, a coward and not a very bright one.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 pmWAYNEBRO, you know what they say about conservatives.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pmWayneBro,
I wouldn’t even worry about it. The admins of TP know jpreston is a troll and they know you are a regular contributor. Who do you think they will believe?
Blog sites like this get spam from fascist theocrat wingnuts every day. They learn to ignore it because they know what is going on as much as we do.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pmIt’s so funny to watch the neocons during the day, hanging democrats in effigy, threatening people with murder, shouting down and intimidating people at town halls, and then come into the blogs and cry about “civil discourse”.
You are a joke troll.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:05 pmLol, at least I am educated enough to read them.
Or did you think we didn’t notice that you switched to a word processor when we started mocking your illiteracy?
lol
And it’s you who’d better read them troll.
Making false claims about another blogger, especially charges as serious as accusing someone of “threats of violence” is a serious violation of those rules.
Not to mention civil law.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:07 pmAnd as for why you’re calling me willy, I’m not sure, unless of course you’d like to suck on mine.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:08 pmjpreston,
I hope it is in the news. I hope the media covers every one of the tea baggers disrupting town hall meetings, and investigates who they are, where they are from, and how much they are being paid. I hope they are all humiliated on national television because maybe then they will snap out of their brainwashed state.
The media really does need to continue to expose you Republicans for the fascists you really are.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pmOf course, the truth here is TP saw your stupid complaints, saw my report proving your false charges were fabrications, figured out it was two bloggers debating, one who couldn’t handle the debate so he turned to making false complaints about the other, and so they laughed it off.
That’s what really happened of course.
But its’ fun watching you cry about it like a little girl.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:12 pmYou really are a little puss.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pmjpreston used the proper channels to report a lie. That is abusing the system and probably grounds for banning. At least if TP wants to ban you.
Frankly I think TP loves you wingnut trolls. If TP banned all the wingnut trolls, TP would be no better than RedState, and we wouldn’t have a venue to take out our frustration over the rise of fascism in America.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pmGranny is going to have to listen to all her grandchildren telling he why it is wrong to support Republicans. Grandma isn’t going to be able to convince young people that you fascist theocrat Republicans are worth voting for.
What is much more likely is the young people will educate their grandparents and you will lose even more votes.
The Republican Party is finished. Deal with it.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pm:|
Something tells me that’s not the first time you’ve spoken those words.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 pmSafe?
Are you saying I wasn’t safe?
You’re threatening me???
Is that a threat?
:0
And if you think I’m 16 what are you doing threatening children???
August 7th, 2009 at 11:23 pmWell I better report this threat.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pmPlease stop threatening me Jpreston.
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Please stop it now.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 pmIt’s amusing to watch as this fascist claims to want to curry the favor of young people, but bashes someone for being young.
Do you think 16 year olds like being treated like dirt by Republicans? In just two short years they will be voters, and in two short years, some of their grandparents will have died.
You Republicans really are blowing it big time.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pmNot only that he threatens 16 year olds.
That’s pretty serious.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 pmSo you’re saying it’s not a threat it’s a promise?
You’ve hired someone to “get me”??
Oh my….stop threatening me like this.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 pmTime has come for me to get some sleep. I think I have done my part in further discrediting this worthless wingnut troll yet again.
I leave the troll-bashing to the rest of my fellow progressives. May the day come when we can visit these fascists in prison, or buy the DVD of their treason trials and hangings.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pmThanks troll, for showing everyone once more what the right wing is about.
Nothing.
You’re about nothing.
You don’t know what your ideal are until they’re handed to you by your local RNC leadership.
And you spend the day out in public trying to intimidate others, then when someone stands up to you, you run crying to mommy.
You’re nothing, and your 15 minutes were up 20 minutes ago.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pmAnd if FOX NEWS keeps directing people to town hall meetings to try to harass, threaten and intimidate liberals and liberal speakers, then no doubt we’ll be seeing more pu$$Y republicans like the moron in the video you show graciously showed us, getting back what he started.
People no doubt will stand up to you.
If you take that as a threat then that’s your problem.
I can’t help it if you’re a wimp.
But it’s not a threat and in no court of law could it ever be construed as one.
Its just a simple and accurate prediction based on the facts, as we saw today.
The republicans want to “Buffalo” people. They want to silence debate, intimidate and harass, and thus control the government and the country through brute force and intimidation.
But Americans aren’t easily intimidated, and they will no doubt stand up to the republican rioters like we saw today.
Don’t like it troll?
Tough.
Do something about it.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pmIt’s going to be funny when a fat old freeper tries to take on one of the burly Democrats that got elected to Congress in 06 and 08.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:51 pmAnd as for MY opinion on what should be done with these neocon rioters?
I’ve made that clear repeatedly over the past several days and I’ll say it again.
LOCK EM UP.
Escort them out and when they resist, LOCK EM UP.
That’s what “I’D DO”, if anyone wants to know.
And my posts over the past week state that in those words, repeatedly.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:54 pmFree speech does not include silencing others rights to free speech.
When you go into a meeting with the express purpose of silencing the speech of others you are simply violating several laws including the rights of others to be heard.
This is unConstitutional and it’s unlawful and if I were in charge I’d have security escort each one of the idiots out and when they resisted, I’d lock em up.
Plain and simple.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:07 amI go out to dinner and when I come back I find waynebro still kicking some troll as*.
Good going wayne (not that you need that from me).
To j, if your trying to reach the All Star level of troll droppings, don’t hold your breath, you’ve got to make this thread go over 2,000 and you’ll have to come up with something better than “quit threatening me!”
Whiner.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:08 amshoo fly shoo
August 8th, 2009 at 12:14 amNo, that would be the republican moron in the video you showed us earlier, who went out looking for trouble, and…..well…..found it.
;)
August 8th, 2009 at 12:15 amYou know the right wing is in trouble, when their latest desperate strategy is to adopt the strategies of code pink.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:21 amIt’s late, have a good night guys.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:27 amWow, I must have missed this one.
I said no such thing. I didn’t even mention “old men and old women”.
No where.
At no time.
Not even close. Nothing.
Notice how this scumbag doesn’t bother to actually post the comment.
He just eludes to it.
That’s because it doesn’t exist.
August 8th, 2009 at 1:46 amYour desperation is apparent troll.
Can’t debate me on the issues, so you turn to cheap lies and false slander about my character instead.
You’ve been weighed, measured and found wanting.
August 8th, 2009 at 1:47 amThe trolls betting no one will check, and just assume I said “something” similar to that.
So here. For anyone who thinks the troll has even a modicum of credibility, here. Do this.
Hit “ctrl f”. That will bring up a “FIND” window. You can also click on “Edit” and then “FIND”.
In the find window, type the word “old men”.
You will note that it appears three times and three times only.
Once when this troll accuses me of saying it.
Once when I responded to his accusation.
And in this comment I am posting now.
That’s it.
At no time did I, or anyone for that matter say anything about beating up old men and women. It doesn’t appear.
He just pulled that one right out of his a$$.
It’s a complete fabrication that has zero basis in reality.
He’s banking on the fact that most casual readers coming after won’t bother to check through 400 some comments. Which they won’t. Why would they? So he feels he can just fabricate some complete and utter lie and accuse me of it, and it will stick because no one will check.
Well, now I’ve shown anyone interested (who didn’t know already) how to quickly confirm a lie someone makes about you.
Simply do a quick “FIND” on the page and if the words don’t come up, they ain’t there.
:P
And that’s the truth.
August 8th, 2009 at 2:34 amWant a cure for insomnia?
August 8th, 2009 at 3:24 amI just made the 10th vote down on several of Presto(n) the Trolls cow patties.
And now,it’s back to bed.
tony and lido
You know I would suggest we post the Rethug meetings and go “harrass” them back but you see;
I am trying to follow our president’s example of class and intellectualism vrs frothing at the mouth Facists fanatics.
Therefore,
Write your representatives and demand THEY get their BUTT in gear and on the offensive and if they don’t expect to be voted out of office in 2010!
August 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm