GOP congressman jeered for telling people to stop watching Glenn Beck.
By on Aug 7th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
GOP congressman jeered for telling people to stop watching Glenn Beck.
Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC) faced a “rowdy” crowd at a town hall forum on health care yesterday. Inglis said that he was against the health care policies being advocated by the Obama administration and “won applause for advocating medical liability reform.” However, the crowd revolted when Inglis told people to “turn the TV off” and stop listening to Glenn Beck. Watch it:
Inglis’ comments about Beck are inaudible in the clip, but ThinkProgress spoke to an Inglis spokesperson who confirmed that he had made those remarks.
Update Ben Smith points to another video that "clearly has Inglis saying Beck's name in repeating a suggestion that he watch the Fox talk show host. This clip also picks up the congressman accusing Beck of 'trading on fear.'"
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GOP congressman jeered for telling people to stop watching Glenn Beck.
… Because thinking is easier when it comes from Glem Beckinstein.
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August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm.
“What are we afraid of?”
Independent thoughts?
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August 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pmOWN IT GOP. the impending BECK train wreck has left the station…
August 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pmInglis might as well have told a crowd of smokers they should quit. Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and all the other hate-jock bloviators out there are like a drug to these people — they need their daily fix.
But they should get a clue — even some Republicans (such as Inglis) realize that we can’t have meaningful debate except among people who are thinking for themselves. Automatons who can only parrot talking points from their propaganda catapult never add anything constructive.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:33 pmThe mindless (Beck) leading the mindless.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pmWhen you’re addicted to something, you don’t want to get rid of your supplier.
The drug of choice for the Right Wing: FEAR
August 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pmThe Republicans played with fire and now they are getting burned. They allied themselves with rabid right wing tea baggers and have lost control over the debate.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pm***
i admire his courage but it’s futile.
you might as well tell them to stop
watching professional wrestling.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pmThese people are out of control! They’d rather listen to Glen Beck than listen to sound advice. Glenn Beck is nothing but a greedy, selfish, irresponsible hack, whoring for ratings and money. Beck is laughing all the way to the bank.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pmTurn Off Glenn Beck….
…but they wouldn’t get their daily dose of hate and crazy, and then what would they do???
1. Use the weed wacker to lower the grass so their prized rusted cars can be seen in front of their trailers.
2. Go over to their cousins with a couple of dollars for sex.
3. Grab the shot gun and go visit a museum or church.
4. Get all liquored up and go yell at town hall meetings.
5. Pay a little visit at the local airport bathroom stalls.
6. Go to Argentina for a Family values convention.
Well, maybe they should just stay home and watch Glenn.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:41 pmMax Anax junius -1 says:
“What are we afraid of?”
Independent thoughts?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
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I WARNED YE, DIDN’T I? THAT COLORED CHALK WAS FORGED BY TH’ DEVIL HIMSELF!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI think i kinda like this, if they are yell and shouting at a repug town hall>>> got to love that!!!!1
Thinking A) the right wing has now lose control to the mob.
B) the rushbo`s etc… are the right wing.
C) they the republicans are now at a point that they know the genies out of the bottle and will never be placed back in.
It could not happen to better people.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pmFrankly, in a poetic justice or karma kind of way, it’s funny to see the Republicrat incited behavior backfiring and biting Republicrats in the ass too.
The Republicrats will be haunted by this. People are hearing and watching about this. The citizens who attend these meetings in good faith WILL talk about and tell their peers about how frightening and scary these people are.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pmHave no fear Beck faithful–he will be there to assist you when your health insurance premiums increase another 110%–just like you teabagged any thought of increased taxes for him and Hannity.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pmWhat sort of freak listens to Glenn Beck in the first place. I have to admit I have never heard the dude but I also know a very diverse crowd and not one of them does either. Now the Odelay album well that is a whole different story…
August 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pmGreat Groundskeeper Willy reference Chiroptera.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pmIt’s fun playing Dr. Frankenstein until the monster gets loose isn’t it Republics?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThose are the boos of broken hearts.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pmWasn’t one of our trolls whining about some “Pandora’s box” effect earlier today?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pmIs he on Glenn Beck’s program today, or Monday? To retract his statements and kiss Beck’s butt.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI sure he will be apologizing soon, I give him 24 hours. Any Republicans who show an once of courage to encourage intellegent debate will be savaged by the radical right. It is so delicious. There is a serious backlash coming against Republicans attempting to destroy debate.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI can’t for a minute fathom anybody taking heed to what Glenn Beck has to say. I love when Stephen Colbert makes fun of him.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pmOh, I meant to say in my last post that I’m both pleased and surprised that this congressman asked them not to watch Glenn Beck. Didn’t work out very well, but just the same.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pmTheir little fire is getting out of control. Didn’t see that comin.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pmThose Congressmen/moderates in the GOP should’ve been cracking down on these crazies months and months ago-it’s probably too late to talk logic and reason to them now.
Beck is their leader now! LMAO!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pmI wonder if Blue Cross covers Fox cult deprogramming.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pmWiz – they only have to apologize to the Drugster. Beck is still an acolyte in the Assfellows Lodge.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:52 pmLooks like the democrats aren’t the only ones in for a long hot summer.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:52 pmThey’re like kids with a campfire (to continue your metaphor) who discover that throwing firecrackers into fire makes a cool BANG! So they find bigger and bigger fireworks to toss into the flames, until they blow up the whole KOA.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pmAfter Limbaugh got so much media and political attention with his call of “I want Obama to fail!” the other wingnut pundits decided that they needed their share of the spotlight and played “who can be most inflammatory?”
The GNOP, seeing the opportunity to unite their ginned up base, jumped in and praised Rush and the others for having the “courage” (easy to do when just sitting before a microphone or TV camera) to speak up for “real Americans”. Thus the teabaggers were launched.
GNOP members of Congress fanned the flames, called for more insurrection, more demonstrations. Now that it’s gotten ugly, violent, racist, extremist, some members of Congress are attempting to backpedal, but it’s too late. Mob mentality rules the ignorant.
What has happened to this nation?
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pmDr. Jeckyll, meet Mr. Hyde.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pmScary part it that I think they are willing to go that far.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pmThese people need their hate fix. Without it they will lapse into self loathing and chronic depression.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pmThe chickens coming home to roost…how sweet it is to be loved by you…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:04 pm“GOP congressman jeered for telling people to stop watching Glenn Beck.”
Pay back for the GOP is a you know what. You reap what you sow. When you feed out garbage to these uninformed lunatic fringe wingnuts, that is exactly what the GOP is getting: Garbage in and garbage out. The Congressman struck a nerve to these wingnuts when he asked them to turn off Becktv. These people are programmed by Beck as well as Fox News and it will be extremely differcult for GOP to accomplish their agenda against Obama when they are dealing with monsters that they created.
The media keep saying that this will hurt the Democrats. No, it will hurt the Republican party because they are the Victor Frankensteins that created their monsters with the help of their helpers such as Limbaugh, Beck, and others. The Republican party are certainly losing their sane Republican followers that lost respect in their own party. The GOP party is becoming sadder ever every day.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pmstarkcr31, what’s a “typical’ liberal?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmAs we head into the weekend, I’d say it’s an unfortunate safe bet that Monday’s papers will feature the story of another Righty gone ’round the bend, and some more innocents lying dead somewhere due to the depth of Righty insanity.
This is a Manson Family phenomenon we’re dealing with, as I’ve said many times in the past. The frightening difference is that today’s “Charlies” are highly paid tv and radio personalities, operating with the full knowledge they’ll never be held accountable for exhorting their addled followers to commit unspeakable atrocities in the name of a defective and false ideology.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmI’m interested in knowing what percent of these people believe Medicare isn’t government-run.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmI think it’s time to turn off the mike’s of people like Beck. I know censorship is wrong but so is turning a huge part of the country into zombies who only listen to radio and talk show hosts. I’m choosing that over uncontrollable mobs.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pmas evidence, i reference cultists watchdog (aka Clem Grogan) and this starckr fella (aka Tex Watson)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pmYes we we do.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pmNo worries, lefty. At this rate, his remaining advertisers will cut the cord for us.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pmMegaloptera McWars says:
The same percent who still think Iraq was involved with 9/11 and that they have WMD but we just haven’t found them yet?
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pmwow tombaker. I sadly agree with you.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pmi don’t parley with cultists.
stay away from me.
get help before you do something you’ll wish you hadn’t.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pmWho did?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Wow, This guy realizes the damage done by the likes of the right wing mudslinger, the Dreckster and a republican to boot.
Good for him. Maybe some of his fellow party members will follow suit and save their party from the wack jobs that seem to have taken it over.
Wonder if the hecklers were the same hecklers at the democrat led town meetings…now that would be ironic.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pmstarkcr31 says:
“What sort of freak listens to Glenn Beck in the first place…
You just admitted you have never even listened to him. Since you have no frame of reference, why are you even speaking? Perhaps you should try to be different than a typical liberal and think for yourself instead of recycling the Obama talking points. Just a thought.
It takes only a few short vids to figure out that Beck is not dealing with a full deck. Much like the protesters he is inciting.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pmMark701 @ #33
You’ve got that right.
They are afraid to let go of their hate because it validates all their beliefs.
And they’re afraid of our country becoming better and stronger under the leadership of a non-white president.
That’s what they’re afraid of.
COWARDS!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pmstarkcr31
Ever think to compare the state of the GOP to full-fledged socialism? I think you’d find that the latter actually has a heart.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:14 pm54 – they say the same things about rush and beck.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:14 pmOh pompous irony…starkcr31 is thy name…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:14 pmNever tell a brown-shirt not to raise his right arm and say, “Sieg Heil,” or to put it slightly more politely, never tell a parrot to not squawk, “Polly wants to be a cracker.”
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pmBecause TP is not a news organization. Does that help?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pmstarkcr31 says:
You just admitted you have never even listened to him.
GET OFF MY PHONE YOU LITTLE PINHEAD!! ARRRRRGH!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pmOn balance, I’d say I make fun of the folks who watch Fox more than I make fun of Fox itself.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Good to see them eating their own for a change. Friggin’ morons.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pmyou are so very free not to be exposed to it, mr. coord.
just move your pointer to the red square with the white “x” at the top right-hand corner of your screen and click once…
…so easy even a caveman could do it.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pmcoord_xfrm feeling left out?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pmOne, can you provide evidence that this is “false information”?
Two, we mostly accuse Faux News of being a mouthpiece for the Right. It’s a propaganda network, not a news network. So “journalism” isn’t even what they do. To accuse them of doing it badly would be misguided.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pmA friend of mine in Washington DC told me two years ago that the nation had become so tragically divided because of the hate and fear mongers on the right that he believed the only way things will get back to normal again is another civil war. The ignoramouses in the Republic Party here in the south may get their wish to refight the “nothen wah”. I just wonder who they will get to take care of those wounded in battle now that they have so stridently rejected the needed health care reforms that Barack and the Democrats have brought forth?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pmIt’s someone who blindly follows your messiah, Barack Obama and his liberal agenda. That person denounced Beck as some kook even though he has never even listend to the man. That doesn’t seem the least bit naive to you?
The usual GOOP word coctail. I’m dizzy now, good work.
Let me try: Obami muswim mumbasa sociawism fastism Beck is a true murican he tells tose libs off lib agwenda going to tuwn murica into canuda.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
starkcr31 says:
So you resent your grandparents for taking your hard-earned money through those fascist, socialized programs known as Medicare and Social Security? And you call them lazy drug addicts, too? Wow, that’s cold, even for a troll.
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pmbehold,
Wight Wing Wage….
and be vewy, vewy afwaid!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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tombaker,
don’t you mean “adam gabriel“?
:)
coord_xfrm,
your “circle jerk” is
in your mouth.
:0
having fun yet?
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pmstarkcr31 says:
“GET OFF MY PHONE YOU LITTLE PINHEAD!! ARRRRRGH!!!”
I can’t even begin to imagine what that means but, more power to you.
So you don’t listen to Glenn Beck either?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pmAgain, a two-part response.
One, can you provide some evidence that there even are “zombies that listen to the likes of MSNBC and Keith Olbermann” and that they have been disrupting town halls in his name?
And two, I thought you guys on the right were always crowing about how insignificant the ratings were for Olbermann and MSNBC compared to Faux?
Now you’re trying equate the two? Pick a side and stick with it. You can’t have it both ways.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pmYou may have “heard everything” but you’ve understood nothing.
Where is your proof for all of that ‘hard-earned money’ going to “drug addicts, illegal aliens and people that are too lazy to work”?
By the looks of those people at those meetings—NONE OF THEM ARE AT WORK!!!!!
Get real…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pmJeez, does this congressman want Beck to start hitting the bottle AGAIN??
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pmSo what is “having a heart” to you? Is it bad fiscal policy that destroys a burdgeoning economy in 8 years from 2000-08?
Is it the death of hundreds of thousands of human beings for no justifiable reason, only profit and expansionism?
I could go on but I will just end it with why you think we should listen to you on what “having a heart” means. You seem not to have any qualifications for making such a judgement.
That is why it’s been taken out of your hands.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm[This place sounds like mutual-admiration society meeting - a.k.a. circle jerk]
You want a messy circle-jerk? Sneak in on a YAF meeting.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm***
#79
coord_xfrm,
don’t shoot yourself.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pmDoes this guy even know what a zombie IS?
In all the zombie movies I ever saw, I never saw one overcome with emotion to the point of fainting.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pmstark crazy,
You already pay for their health care. Your health care is more expensive because every time these people go to the emergency room for care instead of a doctor, you’re paying for the emergency room fee with your higher insurance and copay rates.
Get a clue.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pmAugust 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
So taking my hard-earned money, even though I struggle just like everyone else and giving it to drug addicts, illegal aliens and people that are too lazy to work (I realize these are extreme examples, but I’m trying to illustrate a point) is “having a heart”? Now I’ve heard everything.
He’s right! We should be shoveling more money into corporate bailouts, like AIG! That’s who he thinks should be the recipients of his hard-earned cash!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmThe insurance companies have already accomplished this task on their own, under the guidance and appreciation of the Republic Party. Now the effort is to turn that around so everyone benefits from the largesse not just the few, the brave, the mighty, and the uber rich.
Get it now?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmstarkcr31 says:
So taking my hard-earned money, even though I struggle just like everyone else and giving it to drug addicts, etc.
* *
I object to giving MY hard earned money to religious schools but I still pay my taxes . .
WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY, get over it . .
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmAfter that post…you posting here is a very dishonest and pathetic tactic.
Get real…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmAnd why are Democrats trying to play down the idea that they are trying to push for Single-payer Govt health program?
Oh! We can add that to the list of things watchdog believes!
1) The President is an illegal alien.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm2) Vaccines are made of dead baby juice and monkey kidneys.
3) Cash for Clunkers is a government plot to take control of our computers.
4) “Not single-payer” is secret liberal code for “single-payer”.
starckr = another one for the TFSTKAB file. it’s my biggest file.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pmLiberals are really grasping at straws on this health care thing. Its hard for them to believe real Americans do not like the idea of an all out government take over of the health care system.
Which it really isn’t, but mad dogs and Englishmen, and all that.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pmwatchdog says
August 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
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Hey, watchdog — did you ever learn the difference between John Stuart Mill and Jon Stewart? Or are you still trying to find “The Daily Show with John Stuart Mill” in your TV Guide?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pmDid you even read the comment to which I was responding? It was right there, quoted in my reply.
Go back, read it again and see if you can answer your own question.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pmNo, it’s reasonable help to people who genuinly need it, not government hand-outs to whoever feels like getting it and whoever doesn’t feel like working. Plus, you talk about fiscal policy when your messiah just doubled the national deficit?
To bail us out of a coming depression, silly.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pmI assume you’re talking about the war and I never said I supported that. I didn’t. End of story.
He comes with his own goalposts attached! No more having to push them back, manually. What an idea!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pmwatchdog and i would rerally hate it if we couldn’t maintain the glorious status of paying more than anyone else on earth to receive the 37th-best care money can buy.
why don’t you crazy zombies understand that 37th is WAY BEST, and the more we can pay for it, the better it is.
it’s SO SIMPLE, PEOPLE!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pmWe’re all real Americans, probably even you. That doesn’t change the fact that the people you refer to just lost the election in a huge way and are not the majority.
They are actually a fringe minority trying to use violence to get the upper hand. They will fail..
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pmstarkcr31 says:
No, but “Cash for Clunkers” is the automotive equivilant of the housing program that forced banks to give loans to whoever wanted one.
I thought it was the automotive “equivalant” of Hurricane Katrina. Come on, guys, if you’re going to double-down on crazy, at least try to get your stories straight.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pmSo taking my hard-earned money, even though I struggle just like everyone else and giving it to drug addicts, illegal aliens and people that are too lazy to work (I realize these are extreme examples, but I’m trying to illustrate a point) is “having a heart”? Now I’ve heard everything.
Your hard-earned money was sucked up through manipulated gasoline prices, doubled insurance premiums and $5 for a gallon of milk. You struggle because republicans have a fondness for recessions.
That’s right, you’ve heard everything. The GOP in its current state is far worse than any regime it fears. Good work, the party has become the domestic terror front of the United States.
Another thing, companies large and small have gladly taken what used to be higher wages in meatpacking etc. and distributed them in the form of under-the-table low wages to illegals.
Still fear socialism?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pmA. You can’t predict the future, and neither can your messiah. There’s no indication that it was going to turn into a depression. It’s simply a ploy to force his broken liberal bills through.
better tell Bush’s policy team, because they thought it was.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pmYou got alot to like with a brown-shirt mob,
birthers, teabaggers, flip-top lids.
- an echo of an ancient Marlboro cigarette jingle.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pmB. The fact that there is a slight updraft in the economy has nothing to do with the stimulus package as they’ve only spent 5% of it so far. Try another one though.
Don’t have to. It’s working just fine.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pmlet’s see (again)
Stock market up – more than in years.
Unemployment finally headed down after 8 years on the rise
Hostages rescued, not once but twice, for the cost of 3 bullets and plane fare.
Standing and influence globally once again on the rise…
yep – looks like Obama is ruining the shit out of everything in sight – we’d better get hysterical and scream at the top of our lungs, pronto!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pmCan you identify this “government program that forced banks to give loans to whoever wanted one”?
Because I seem to remember banks being pretty eager to lend money for any reason whatsoever to anyone, regardless of their income or ability to repay.
You mean the government was behind that, forcing Ditech to run ad after ad on cable?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pmYou’re not real big on reading comprehension, are you?
That explains a lot.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pmA. You can’t predict the future, and neither can your messiah.
It was you Bush nut-huggers who were claiming his presidency was divinely inspired. Do you get irony, in the backwoods?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pmHEY SORE LOSERS – GET OVER IT
quit pretending there’s a fire down at the old mill when there isn’t, Lassie(s).
quit lying all the goddamned time,
and quit pitching your petulant righty hissy-fits.
it makes you look like sissies.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:34 pmTranslation:
“LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR I CAN’T HEAR YOU I CAN’T HEAR YOU”
August 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pmYes, I do, because everything you said are nothing but left-wing talking points and have no basis in reality.
I guess irony stops at the fencepost, cause he’s not getting it.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pmyeah, bush threatened martial law. That’s how bad he thought it was.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pmstarkcr31 says:
So taking my hard-earned money, even though I struggle just like everyone else and giving it to drug addicts, illegal aliens and people that are too lazy to work (I realize these are extreme examples, but I’m trying to illustrate a point) is “having a heart”? Now I’ve heard everything.
Your money is already going to drug addicts and illegal aliens. These groups show up in emergency rooms for treatment because they have no where to go. Many of them already have Medicaid as part of the welfare system. They also get other welfare benefits. Some of them qualify because their children were born here and are American citizens. The Republicans reformed welfare so your complaints should be directed to them.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pmstarkcr31 says:
A. You can’t predict the future, and neither can your messiah. There’s no indication that it was going to turn into a depression. It’s simply a ploy to force his broken liberal bills through.
If we find an indication that the economy was turning into a depression, will you shut up about your “ploy”?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Uh… there was a Clinton program that I don’t have any evidence of. And also minorities were involved. This led to the housing collapse.”
Gosh, it’s hard to believe you guys keep losing elections.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pmPlus, you talk about fiscal policy when your messiah just doubled the national deficit?
The deficit was $1.2 trillion when the current president took office. The deficit now is $1.8 trillion. A “doubled” deficit, as you allege, would be $2.4 trillion. How did you round up to that?
Also, since we’re in a deep recession, governments have to spend in order to revive consumer spending. The base of an economy depends on broad indicators — keeping people off the streets (unemployment benefits), education, tax relief for the middle class, infrastructure, and yes, health reform.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pmIt’s called CRA and it’s been debunked. My toddler knows this.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pmYes, I don’t feel like looking up the exact name, but it was a program under Clinton (and then Bush) that forced banks to give loans to more minorities and poor people because apparently the fact that they couldn’t afford a loan was “descrimination”. This led to the housing collapse. When you can’t afford a loan and you get one anyway, guess what happens? A toddler can figure it out.
Then change your Huggies, cause you’re way off. It was the affluent, looking for ever-increasing profits on their investments, who demanded these traders give them riskier (and more rewarding) investment vehicles, like these sliced and diced loans. But feel free to bash the little guys, you big tough conservative.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pmstarckr is white, and doesn’t like anyone who isn’t, so he’s come up with a bunch of pseudo-political camouflage to flounce around in while he throws his little sissy temper-tantrum about the black president.
The End.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pmcoord_xfrm says:
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Have fun!
I gotta go prevent Lime’s disease (dammit).
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——————————————————————————–How are you going to cure a desease you can’t even spell? It’s lyme desease.
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tony and lido
August 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Imagine that.
Doesn’t “feel like looking up the exact name” (which might give his argument some credibility if such a program existed) but instead simply spews more vague indistinct generalities about this mythical program.
You’ll excuse me if I find your argument utterly unconvincing.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pmTranslation: I don’t have a credible source.
BTW – hi! watchdick. Still fightin’ the stupid fight, I see…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pmWhere’s your proof of this?
Irony.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pmstarkcr31’s greatest hits!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm: I don’t feel like looking up the exact name.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm: Where’s your proof?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pmpoor dummy – doesn’t even know who exactly it is that’s screwing him.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pmNo you’re hearing things wrong. But don’t worry, it’s still because you’re a dumb conservative…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:43 pmGive me your proof because I can give you mine. You are saying the government DIDN’T require more loans to people of a certain income and more minorities?
I’m saying it was the affluent, pushing for deregulation, so they could use riskier (and more potentially profitable) investments. You’re mad at the wrong people.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pmYou just admitted you have never even listened to him. Since you have no frame of reference, why are you even speaking? Perhaps you should try to be different than a typical liberal and think for yourself instead of recycling the Obama talking points. Just a thought.
Been there, done that ….took only 2minutes to realized Beck is a hack , lier, facist pig and really bad for America.
You see, 280,000,000 Americans have brains and know when they see a true HACK!!!! This discorse only shows off whats wrong with America….20million idiots and thank goodness….not counting.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8
I’m so tired of proving basic shite to you guys. Why don’t you prove some of your crap that you disperse as if it were fact. You never do.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pmI got three votes down for trying to educate our trolls.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pmIt is lyme.
Our trolls are past stupid and heading towards
starkcr31 says:
Yes, I do, because everything you said are nothing but left-wing talking points and have no basis in reality.
You fear what you’ve become. Explain, how has the GOP in its current state done better than socialism? Please don’t answer “NO.”
August 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pmYour idiocy is on display…no one is forcing consumers to turn their car in on the C4C or the dealer to host that program…
Get real…not just real dumb…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pmI asked you for proof and you “didn’t feel like” googling it.
That’s not the argument you made.
You said “Cash for Clunkers” is the automotive equivilant of the housing program that forced banks to give loans to whoever wanted one.
(emphasis mine)
You have failed to show that any government program meeting those conditions ever existed.
I wouldn’t count out the possibility. You certainly seem to fit the type.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:47 pmtoward loonytoon ville.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:47 pmtony and lido
Yes, I don’t feel like looking up the exact name
August 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm—
I was out but did someone actually keyboard this? Wow! Ihave heard some people say that….
It sucks to live in a democracy when Free speech is your enemy, doesn’t it?
It’s Watchpuppy Storytime! Too bad, he such a hack. Every story has a liberal villian.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:49 pmOOps, that was three votes down for the troll.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pmMy bad.
tony and lido
watchdog says:
It sucks to live in a democracy when Free speech is your enemy, doesn’t it?
Tell that to Bush and his barb-wired “Free speech” zones…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pmI see you’re lobbying for the position.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pmI think you may want to throw the word “idiot” at someone else.
Until you actually prove otherwise…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm“in some circles” bullshit expressions like ” I have read that” and “In the opinion of many” count as logical supports…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:51 pm**
“because I’m just a dumb conservative?”
if the shoe fits…
..
#148,
stop being a victim,
it’s not our fault you can’t win an election.
. . ..
now that must really suck.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:52 pmdietrich says:
I got three votes down for trying to educate our trolls.
It is lyme.
Our trolls are past stupid and heading towards
Hi tony! You got three [sockpuppets] down for trying to educate the trolls!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pmLMAO!!!
That fire down at the old mill line was just freakin’ hilarious…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pmwatchdog says
August 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
___________________________________________________________
“Liberals are really grasping at straws on this health care thing.”
– Nope. We have facts and truth on our side. Your side has only fearmongering using made-up scary stories.
“Its hard for them to believe real Americans do not like the idea of an all out government take over of the health care system.”
– Haven’t you been paying attention? An “all out government take over” isn’t even on the table. But since you don’t have any coherent argument against what IS on the table, you have to gear your battle against a straw man.
“And why are Democrats trying to play down the idea that they are trying to push for Single-payer Govt health program?”
– Some are. But most of us, while we admire the single-payer systems in other countries as being efficient, cost-effective, and successful, realize that turning to such a system here overnight (and putting a lot of people currently employed with private insurance companies out of work overnight) would be a jolt harmful to the economy. The public plan competing with private insurers deserves a chance to work.
“Just be honest with what you trying to do.”
– Look who’s talking. You’re the one who’s suggesting the topic here is mandatory single-payer government-run health care. You’re trying to build discontent with health care reform based on lies.
“Trying to turn Insurance companies into villains is a very dishonest and pathetic tactic.”
– Are you suggesting it’s unfair to claim that insurance companies exist to make a profit? No, no, no — spreading lies like “the elderly will receive forced euthanasia”, or “healthcare will be rationed”, or “there will be a bureaucrat between you and your doctor”, or “private insurers will be forced by law to close their doors” is a dishonest and pathetic tactic.
So why are you buying into the propaganda? Are you employed by the health insurance industry and you’re worried for your job? Or are you so drunk on the kool-aid you’re willing to oppose your own interests?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm***
#152,
trolls brag about o’reilly’s ratings,
don’t they?
. .
(hmmm, reality really does have a well known liberal bias, doesn’t it?)
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pmIt sucks to live in a democracy when Free speech is your enemy, doesn’t it?
Your “free speech” an enemy of healthy brain cells.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm***
#65,
which they are about to renew.
success has a liberal bias too i guess.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pmI would think that interns for Righty PR boiler rooms would be a little smarter than these guys consistently prove to be.
I guess I give credit a little “too liberally”.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pm***
“You’re putting your ignorance
on display for all to see.”
*
and that’s how conservatives try to win votes.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm***
#171,
i wonder why.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pmwatchdog says:
A remark straight out of left field. WHOA!! BUSH DID IT BUSH DID IT!!!!
Is it Free Speech when some of them are just howling away and screaming so that NO ONE can speak, at all? Is that what it is?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pmI wonder what color Snuggie crotchdog wears…
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pmThat is the ultimate goal, however, is a socialist government. If you honestly don’t see that, you need treatment
That’s insane. You teabaggers are nuts.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm***
“I would except…”
…
s/b
“I would have except…”
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pmIn some circles…unnamed sources have hinted at…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pmJust look at how the Swedes, Norwegians, and Dutch suffer under the brutal, wicked bootheel of socialism – it’s truly frightening!!!
They, poor, poor they, with their long life expectancies and reported contentment with life – their University educations and technologically sophisticated, futuristic cities and economies – it must be HELL ON EARTH for those poor bastards.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pmThey created the Republican Propaganda Machine. Now they must deal with their own creation.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pmNice play on words…and, nuthuggers can be nuts, what a paradox…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pm***
“… your ignorance on display for all to see.”
>
August 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pmWhen anyone starts out with “Honestly” you know bullshit will follow…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:03 pmTotally reasonable comparisons. It just ticks you off because it points out specifically why you are out of power.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:03 pm“Strict Constructionists” and “Originalists” concur, that:
Free Speech = Free Screaming
Whoever would debate that is obviously Joe Stalin incarnate.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:03 pmstarkcr31 says:
Unfortunately, as usual, the Obama crew had no clue how to handle a program of this magnitude and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
Basically, Obama’s “green” BS is a horrible deal for dealers
Really? ‘Cause I heard different… see link.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pmhttp://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-07-26-cash-for-clunkers_N.htm
The dealer has to take the car if the consumer wants to turn it in and then is reimbursed for the difference.
It’s called choice and trading in the old car is part of the rebate’s terms. Don’t republicans brag about choice?
Unfortunately, as usual, the Obama crew had no clue how to handle a program of this magnitude and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
You talk about “ignorance on display” and then put up something unsubstantiated and laughable. bankrupt???
Basically, Obama’s “green” BS is a horrible deal for dealers as displayed just this week when this program ran out of money and will also run out of the recently approved money.
This program is putting hundreds of thousands of energy efficient cars on the road and boosting sales for the first time since 2007. As for the money running out, that is a contradiction of the GOP’s beliefs. The GOP believes a that a non-military program should outlive its usefulness, but you’re complaining it will run out of money. That tells me the selective nature of this criticism is a desperate political calculation. Too bad you thought we wouldn’t call you out on it.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pmBut you tripped and fell anyway…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pmOne of the disrupters said “keep your government hands off my Medicare.” And I thought the younger generation was becoming dumbed down. The hate that is out there and spured on by the becks, limbaughs, oreillys, hannitys is overwhelming. I believe it is about race more than political party. And I thought we were beyond that as human beings.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pmTruth is, bush and cronies did put this nation into the economic toilet and it takes more than a few months of policy change to undo what took 8 years to destroy. It seems that conservatives would rather destroy than work as a team to rebuild this wonderful country.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pmstarkcr31 says:
You have provided no facts; only promises, which, of course, will be broken.
That is the ultimate goal, however, is a socialist government. If you honestly don’t see that, you need treatment.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Extremely cheap response to a poster who’s known for adding a lot of richness to her posts. If you had more experience reading and appreciating miss molly’s posts, you would know that responding in such a way is not treading carefully. You can always try again.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pmstarkcr31 says
August 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
That is the ultimate goal, however, is a socialist government. If you honestly don’t see that, you need treatment.
___________________________________________________________
That was a stupid argument when Ronald Reagan made it in 1964 regarding Medicare and Medicaid, and it’s a stupid argument now.
Instead of fearmongering about what some mythical “ultimate goal” is, why not debate what’s actually been proposed? Can you do that without dragging out the “ultimate goal is a socialist government” canard?
In case you haven’t noticed it, we already have some socialism in our government. No developed nation has a purely capitalistic system without some degree of socialism — they’d wind up like a banana republic if they did. What you call socialism provides us with education, roads, armed forces, infrastructure, libraries, arts, public safety, a helping hand for our down and out to get them back on their feet, etc. Are you claiming these “socialist” things should be abolished?
We aren’t the Soviet Union. We aren’t even Sweden. And providing a way for uninsured people to get affordable insurance won’t change that.
Oh, and if I ever DO need treatment for any health condition, it would be much nicer if I could afford it. Otherwise I will have to become a ward of the state and your taxes will take care of me.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pmstarkcr31 says:
The dealer has to take the car if the consumer wants to turn it in and then is reimbursed for the difference. Unfortunately, as usual, the Obama crew had no clue how to handle a program of this magnitude and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
Do you have any proof of this? Any citation?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm***
“I don’t how to break this to you, but boosting sales doesn’t necessarily mean anything.”
*
smells like ken lay to me.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pmOnly to a mind that’s easily blown, like a 1.5 amp fuse in a string of Christmas lights that takes 3 amp.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pmMy guess is he could find it, but doesn’t feel like looking it up.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Really? ‘Cause I heard different… see link.”
If it’s so wonderful, why are most dealers not getting their money?
Where’s your link??
August 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pmConservatives are so worried “their” money will pay for the undeserving sick people. Well,your welfare dollars will pay when preventative illness turn permanent and the person can no longer work. I do believe everyone needs to pay, so why not a small sales tax on everything so a purchase from a candy bar to a skil saw a portion goes to healthcare. That way the burden is carried by all.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pmsee post 201.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pmWow, I gotta hand it to all of you who stayed to swat at the trolls.
Remember when the GNOP rolled out their “John Galt” strategy? Galt, the elusive character in Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” who pushed the virtues of capitalism.
And the GNOP base replied with “Who is John Galt?” (hee hee) and “Who’s Ann Rand?”
They quickly realized how ignorant, uninformed and uneducated their base was, and decided to find the biggest moron to sell their message instead. Glenn Beck had finally found his place among the GNOP media elite.
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pmYou’re too quick, ralph…
is starkcr slow?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pmThis entire situation is but a symptom of a larger, and much older,disease eating at the soul of America. Eisenhower warned 50 yrs ago of the “military/industrial complex” taking root in the country. He was virtually ignored. Since then, we’ve had the unsolved murders of JFK, RFK, MLK. The Vietnam War that would not end until “the people” would have no more of it. Nixon and Watergate. Fords pardons of all the criminals involved. Carter, who was good, but ineffectual. Reagan and all the Iran/Contra criminals, pardoned by Bush I. The partisan Whitewater witch hunt impeachment attempt against Clinton. Last, but not least, the debacle of the 2000 “selection” of BushII, and the 8 year slide toward the abyss that followed. Now,we have another Democrat in the WH, with the temerity to actually want to unite and do some good for average Americans. Well, reinforced by 24/7 shout radio and complacent corporate media, the brownshirts just CANNOT let this stand. They are the fruit of the “military/industrial/corporatocracy” that has been allowed to flourish after 50 yrs of “we the people” pretending “it cant happen here”. Well folks, it IS here, no longer in the shadows. Does anyone see a pattern here…I’m just an old man grieving for what my beloved America has become. Blessings and Prayers, for all of us, not just the “real” ones…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pmHello ! There are rules to be able to sell your clunker and dealers do not have to take a car if it doesn’t qualify.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pmWhat will you people of no do when programs start working, and our economy improves as it did under Clinton. What will you have to complain about I wonder.
They’ll make $hit up just like they did back then…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pm“What are we afraid of?” yells one of the hecklers.
You un-American corporate thugs are absolutely terrified of honest debate. Why? Because, just like your messiah, Glenn Beck, when debate is honest, you lose every single time.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pmstarkcr31 says: @# 165 …and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pmMy guess would be that the only citation you could provide would look like used toilet paper…
starkcr31 at #165 ignorance on display for all to see. The dealer has to take the car if the consumer wants to turn it in and then is reimbursed for the difference.
Um talking about putting ignorance on display>>>>>> do you even understand just a little bit about the C4C???
cause there is a requirement that the dealers have to go threw
A) it had to been register for a continues year
B) must be insured for same year
and no the dealer dont have to take the car>>> but its kinda like needed to in order to get the C$C deal. and if the paper work isnt completed properly then it gets rejected and well usually going to fall back on the person buying the car to come up with the 35 or 4500.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pmI don’t how to break this to you, but boosting sales doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Have you ever heard of repossesion? With the economy the way it is, do you honestly think this many people will be able to buy a new car and sustain the payments? The program DID run out of money and when congress throws money at it again, it will run out a second time and so forth.
You’re still operating under this theory that the government forced people to take loans they couldn’t afford. They even brought in Carter. Can I speak with adults anymore?
In a way the government did force people to take loans they couldn’t afford when Reagan’s appointee for the federal reserve, Alan Greenspan, set interests rates too low for too long and applauded “innovation” in financial products.
The other effect of keeping interest rates too low for too long, in addition to the risky manipulation of financial products, was the overinflation of property values. People found that their wages, which weren’t keeping up during the Bush years, couldn’t match up to the overpriced homes, so they were forced to consider non-traditional mortgages. Your average person/family couldn’t walk into the realtor’s office and get a fix rate/limited adjustable rate mortgage anymore because housing prices were rapidly and artificially adjusted beyond a reasonable payment/income ration. The current massive price correction is proof.
Back to car loans, when you consider the program auto companies have going on to make your payment and/or take back your car if you lose your job, in addition to that fact that a car loan typically carries a lower interest rate than a mortgage, it’s less risky to one’s personal finances and to the economy as a whole. Especially now that job losses are lower than expected this month at less than 300,000. We could see growth again at the end of this quarter. It’s the right time.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pmtexaslady says: @# 208 …What will you have to complain about I wonder.
President Obama will still be half black…nuff said.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pmstark doesn’t present facts and doesn’t acknowledge them. Why hasn’t he acknoweledged that he was wrong about just this one item?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Well they can not debate cause first off they lack the intelligent to be able to remember more then one sentence. or talking point.
if its debate they want they come totally unarmed
August 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pmYes, who can forget the $7 million + to prove Clinton had a freebie. Whitewater was never proven. The NO people complain of Stimulus money cost, how much was spent and is still being spent on bush’s war ?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pmstarkravingcrazyguy ~ please make sure you thoroughly wash your hands after pulling so many ‘facts’ out of your nasty ass.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pmNope, it’s worse than you think. We are going to round up your children and send them to educational facilities around the country.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pmstarkcr31 says:
Suddenly, nothing. I’ve been digging through a lot of articles about CARS, some pro- and others not, and there isn’t a single word, not a jot, not a tittle, about dealers not getting their money and certainly nothing about bankruptcy. This claims appears to have been pulled entirely out of starkcr31’s butt.
I am shocked. Shocked!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pm***
#215,
no.
*
you have two more guesses left.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pmTo Stark you can always find a right wing site that will give you more lies instead of concrete facts. Why bother with sites that want coherent discourse.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pmThe program DID run out of money and when congress throws money at it again, it will run out a second time and so forth.
Didn’t I just call you out on this? The GOP doesn’t believe a government program should exist, let alone be a permanent fixture. So why are you complaining it will run out of money?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pmstarkcr31 says:
You liberals are hilarious. I disagree with you so all my comments are “voted down”. I’ve already been banned from other sites because I’m not a lemming that blindly follows Barack Obama so I guess this should be no different. What is it that you want? Do you want a police state that is run by your messiah and throws all the conservatives into the Gulag so they can’t disagree with you? It sure seems that way.
No, I don’t want blind imprisonment, and I’m pretty sure President Obama isn’t about to suggest we have one.
Tell me about “blindly following” leaders. Were your eyes open during the past eight years?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm***
#222,
do people often “bark up your tree”?
do neighborhood kids stand on your front lawn?
would you like to buy a kenyan birth certificate?
? ? ?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pmPoor starkravingcrazyguy ~ I’m on my lunch break at work where I made a six figure salary as a database designer…
However, I am a Vietnam veteran, and donate a lot of time and energy to helping those less fortunate than I.
What brand of antiseptic soap do you use to wash the crap off your fingers after having pulled all that stuff out?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pmstarkcr31 says:
Oh, more, more! I love it when you talk gross generalizations!
Don’t worry, you won’t be banned here unless you violate the TOS. What you will get is voted down if the community sees fit to do so.
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm***
“deserve scrutiny”
where’s your “scrutiny”?
where’s your “differing viewpoints”?
***
you have written much,
but said little.
:|
. …
August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pmAnyone that follows the GOP party of NO to EVERYTHING is a lemming. I am waiting to hear one line of a healthcare plan from the Republicans. How does it feel that insurance companies have a 155% profit while people struggle to pay premiums. Insurance companies are sending 1.4 million A DAY to their paid for Senators to say NO to any health care reform.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pmIf you think you are trying to shame me with your tenuous knowledge of electricity then you’re barking up the wrong tree.
We’re more concerned with your tenuous grasp of history, facts or debate.
Where are these ‘bankrupt’ dealers again? link?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pmonly promises, which, of course, will be broken
Well, it’s good to know that in a world where we can’t predict the future, and neither can the President, starkcr31 is here to pick up the slack.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:39 pm* * *
#233,
press 1.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:39 pm****
#241,
“quit making stuff up!”
– s. palin
. .
August 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pmIt was pretty clear. Any 3rd grader would have understood it.
English has been tried on you and it has failed. Do you speak some secret cult language?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pmOh, look, starkcr31 is back. Got those citations about dealers not getting their money? Because even the Wall Street Journal called it “wildly successful.”
Got cites?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Where are these ‘bankrupt’ dealers again? link?”
I said they will be bankrupt, not that they are. How long do you think a dealership can run without getting paid?
Dodge is still in business, I see.
Who says they aren’t getting paid?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pmObviously the right wing trolls come here seeking intelligence as it is obvious that there is NO intelligence at any of the right wing blogs out there.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pmYou liberals are hilarious. I disagree with you so all my comments are “voted down”. I’ve already been banned from other sites because I’m not a lemming that blindly follows Barack Obama so I guess this should be no different. What is it that you want? Do you want a police state that is run by your messiah and throws all the conservatives into the Gulag so they can’t disagree with you? It sure seems that way.
He’s your “messiah” because I haven’t read/hear a supporter give him that label. The counterlesson that there are competent politicians out there, that there is life after the putrid demonstration of governance by George Bush, has too many steeped in cynicism, hence the “messiah” shtick.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pm*** ***
#243,
how much wood could a woodchuck chuck?
* * *
if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
:\
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pmTry the Dial. And where is that citation? I’ll hold my nose while reading it…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pmAnd, actually, you wrote: Unfortunately, as usual, the Obama crew had no clue how to handle a program of this magnitude and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
Which is not the same as “hard going to go bankrupt.” Dodge dodge
August 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm***
**
#247,
did somebody break a promise to you?
here’s a hanky.
:|
blow.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pmActually, traitors make friends with terrorist right wing organizations like your hero Reagan.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pmstarkcr31 says:
I’ve already been banned from other sites
now i wonder why you have. it can not be cause of your mine expanding all inclusive understanding of nothing could it be?
Honestly, Kinda wish you would not be so lazy and say you dont have time to give links or look things up to show us. cause i know that 90% of the posters here can and have not been lazy to just read off a cue card.
So lets make a deal if you need help understanding things just ask and i know i will be glad to help and i am betting others here will as well.
thanks
August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm***
#257,
they’re still in business.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pmI said they will be bankrupt, not that they are.
You just admitted your wishful thinking. GOP? – 2010? – BOO?
How long do you think a dealership can run without getting paid?
You haven’t posted anything proving they’re going unpaid. Let’s not post as if there’s something after the fact for you to go on.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Where are these ‘bankrupt’ dealers again? link?”
I said they will be bankrupt, not that they are. How long do you think a dealership can run without getting paid?
There have been so many payments that they had to add more money to the program… what are you smoking?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pmThis site “deserves scrutiny” ? What a boorish statement. Well, it speaks volumes in regard to your lack of intellect and information. Do you also count the broken promises and lies from the former President that lied his way into office ? I believe President Obama won’t even catch up.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm.. … ..
#262,
so next year
you’ll understand it.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pmstarkravingcrazyguy ~
August 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pmIf you had a coherent viewpoint, that was backed up by citations proving your claims, you’d be listened to.
Otherwise, not so much.
#266,
wrong.
next question.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pmstarkcr31 says:
Isn’t that right?
No.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Dodge is still in business, I see.”
Dodge is a company, not a dealership.
But irony is still dead.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pmYou would of course be wrong again but it wouldn’t matter because even by our definition you wouldn’t fit in.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pmQuestion by an esteemed poster: Got the LINK to your claim that the “auto dealers aren’t gettin their money”?
stark answers: Nope.
So you’re confident in having pulled something out of your ass, you won’t even rummage through WND for a link.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pmAnd we really aren’t getting a citation about the poor car dealers, are we? Not ever.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pmstarkcr31, if you took the time to actually read any of the threads here, you would see that the TP community, i.e. those who come here on a regular basis to read and comment, do criticize the President and members of Congress when we don’t agree with what is being done.
But that’s not your purpose here, is it? Your sole purpose is to come and post “All you liberals…” and “The problem with you liberals is…” and other gross generalizations.
And you don’t even bother to open another tab and provide support for your allegations. And you called people who receive any sort of government benefits lazy…
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm###
#269,
breaking up town halls is not
fighting for your country.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pmFriends with terriost nations ? Have you ever heard “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”. Better to sense what your enemies are up to than close the door and pretend they don’t exist. Many countries were not our enemies prior to a former President calling them the axis of evil.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pm***
#275,
“iran has wmd’s.”
i didn’t believe that lie.
but you did.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:54 pmstarkcr31 says
August 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
You liberals are hilarious. I disagree with you so all my comments are “voted down”. I’ve already been banned from other sites because I’m not a lemming that blindly follows Barack Obama so I guess this should be no different. What is it that you want? Do you want a police state that is run by your messiah and throws all the conservatives into the Gulag so they can’t disagree with you? It sure seems that way.
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If you bothered to read other posts in here, you’d find we aren’t “lemmings” who “blindly follow” President Obama. When he does things we disagree with, we say so. He doesn’t get a free pass.
Are you suggesting that President Obama is running a “police state”? Are you suggesting he advocates throwing all conservatives into the Gulag? If so, you might provide some evidence of that.
Or maybe this is an overreaction to being voted down, and you’re associating our displeasure with your posts to being thrown into a Gulag. It’s true we have a mechanism here where if we like a post or dislike a post, we can say so, and we use it. Some of us rate the posts based on whether they’re intelligent and thoughtful, or if they are just a waste of space. Some of us rate the posts based on whether we agree or disagree with them. Apparently you’re a victim of the latter (it only takes 10, you know, to get “voted down”).
Personally, I only vote down for posts that are spam, blatantly abusive or offensive posts (and that goes for both left and right posters), posts that merely parrot talking points with no original thought, posts that are just cut and paste jobs (unless there’s some original comment with them), and posts that are obviously intended to disrupt or derail (troll-turds). I don’t vote down posts presented intelligently, even if I disagree with what the poster says.
But getting voted down in a TP thread is hardly the same as being thrown into the Gulag in a police state. Get over it — you’re not a victim.
If it really bothers you to have people disagree with you, I recommend you leave here and go somewhere like redstate, where you can circle-jerk with all the wingnuts you want.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:54 pmYou may want to consult your history book before speaking.
Can you consult ANY SOURCE that backs up ANYTHING you’ve said today?
That’d be great…thanks.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pmstrkcrazy, you did say this:
The dealer has to take the car if the consumer wants to turn it in and then is reimbursed for the difference. Unfortunately, as usual, the Obama crew had no clue how to handle a program of this magnitude and many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.
And you are making no effort at all to substantiate it. Why not just admit you made it up?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pmWhat does the GOP have to do with anything? Obama created this program.
Let me put this in perspective for a third time: You’re COMPLAINING the program will run out of money. SO? If the program had an indefinite timetable the GOP would roar, parading CARS as a permanent expansion of government. OF COURSE the program is going to end. The question is, why are you complaining?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pmExamples of broken promises.
I’ll easily concede a few, if you actually know what they are. Please be sure to include actual proof, like links, instead of just taking a dump on the thread and pretending like it’s supported by evidence that exists in this reality.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pmTeabaggers are Traitors.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:58 pmYes, actually there millions of us that wanted a change from the dictatorship of bush/cheney. The murder of our young men and women going into a country for OIL ! Now we have to lose more soldiers to clean up what could have been cleaned up years ago in Afganistan. All this from a draft doger and an AWOL person.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pmYou can’t even back up your statement that dealerships are going bankrupt because of the cash for cars program.
What do you know about facts? Nothing…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pm***
#282,
you can always
vote for bush again.
:)
i hope you do.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pmstarkcr31 says:
I would appreciate it if people stopped saying I said things that I didn’t. I never said the above.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Read stark’s post for yourself:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
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i think you’re running out of “scrutiny”.
what else have you got?
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pmStark you may want to check your book on Iran, which had a moderate leader PRIOR to being called part of axis of evil. It was bush’s hillbilly attitude that ramped up all the middle East countries. And I do not blame them one bit for wanting weapons after seeing the destruction of Iraq, if Mexico was invaded and Canada you can bet America would be checking our resources.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pmstarkcr31 says:
“Question by an esteemed poster: Got the LINK to your claim that the “auto dealers aren’t gettin their money”?
stark answers: Nope.”
I would appreciate it if people stopped saying I said things that I didn’t. I never said the above.
My what a short memory we have.
Post #165
“many of the dealers aren’t getting their money and are going bankrupt.”
Post #193
“If it’s so wonderful, why are most dealers not getting their money?”
Post #243
“I said they will be bankrupt, not that they are. How long do you think a dealership can run without getting paid?”
So. Not only did you say that, you said EXACTLY that at least 3 times within the last hour.
What a f ucking liar you are. I thought at first you were just misguided, but you’re not. You’re intentionally deceitful. F uck off. Liars aren’t welcome here.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:08 pmCould any of you Baboon Beck Lovers explain why the Baboon himself is not leading any of his mob exhibitions?
Could it be because the Baboon is busy laughing all the way to the bank?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pmwhile the rest of the low class mini Baboons make themselves look stupid.
Do you mean like the planning for the iraq war or fiscal policy for the last 10 years? No thanks. We’ll let intelligent people manage things for a while.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pmWell Stark waiting for your response on :
Dealers “have ” to take cars, No, only if the cars comply with the regulations.
And why Iran should be part of the axis of evil prior to fake cowboy georgie included them.
And which promises did Obama make that he has broken in 7 months ? But, lets see where has he been for 7 months, oh that is right, working, not cutting brush on his ranch while ignoring a warning from Bin Laden.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm***
#287,
when did you ever plan anything?
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSmiget, stark is like all the repubs denying they have said something even if proof is there that they did. Famous lines from bush ” I just didn’t say that.” ” We don’t torture.”
August 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pmstarkcr31 says:
Link? It’s not AWOL after 30 days. After that it’s called desertion and you go to prison.
Unless your the son of the head of the CIA. Do you have any links at all to back up ANYTHING you’ve said today starkcr31????
August 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pmShut up, stark.
You’ve proven you’re a liar who does nothing but make shit up and post it all over without providing any evidence for it.
Nothing that you say is worth anything to anyone on this thread.
Just go away.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pmWhat branch of the military were you in, starky?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pmStark thinks he has to lie to make friends.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:15 pmStark knows he can’t win a debate with facts, so he just makes shit up as he goes along.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pmArn, usually I don’t disagree with you, but writers such as Stark really aren’t traitors just lonely, uninformed people who would rather try to rabble rouse than read a book or watch more than reality shows. We should feel sorry for them because they can’t be informed until they want to be.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pmStark thinks liberals are the blind ones, but all he can muster to make his point is the stupid unsubstantiated shit that Limbaugh and Beck spew.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm“What are we afraid of?”
They are afraid of the black man sitting in what they perceive as their “white’s only” house.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pmstarkcr31 says:
Hardly. You are making assumptions about me based on nothing. Those are hardly facts.
starkcr31 also says:
I’ve already been banned from other sites because I’m not a lemming that blindly follows Barack Obama so I guess this should be no different. What is it that you want? Do you want a police state that is run by your messiah and throws all the conservatives into the Gulag so they can’t disagree with you?
Weird.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pmStark refuses to admit he was caught in a lie and apologize for being deceitful.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pmstarkcr31 says:
“How could a TRAITOR like YOU understand REAL Americans?”
Did you fight for your country? Well, I did, so knock it off with the traitor crap because you clearly are one.
Well being a Combat Vet myself the answer is YES
August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm* 8
#310 meet #309.
**
meanwhile beck (remember him?)
“jokes” about poison in nancy pelosi’s wine.
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pmGET THE F UCK OUT OF HERE STARK, YOU LYING PIECE OF GARBAGE.
DON’T YOU GET IT? WE DON’T TOLERATE LYING SACKS OF SHIT.
JUST LEAVE.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm***
#319,
you’ll have to do your own homework.
it’s called be responsible.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm***
#313,
typically vague answer.
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pmSmack him down, fellas. Make the bastard sorry for shitting all over the thread.
I’m outta here. For now.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pmStark go get a library card and start reading a book for Gosh sakes ! Or even a newspaper and try to read the opposing view even if you have to puke as some of us do after 15 minutes of Faux fantasy. I can’t manage limbaugh or hannity but second hand beck is laughable.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pm#325
he does it to himself.
all the time.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm“What branch of the military were you in, starky?”
Army, 98G. good deal and a 98G
you tell me you are or were a cryptologic linguist?
smiles
August 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pmGo google “US Military Desertion” if you don’t believe me. It’s a very straightforward rule.
Can you google ‘dealers going bankrupt due to C4C’ and give me some straightforward evidence of your wild claim?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pmstarkcr31 says:
“What branch of the military were you in, starky?”
Army, 98G.
Chairborne Ranger?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pmstartky, the current MOS list only goes up to 94. What was 98Golf?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pm***
nice catch pilot.
stark?
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pmOh, and can you give us a few of your units and duty stations?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pmAWOL / deserter…bush had a contract and broke it…how does that make others feel that stuck it out. 55,000 did what they signed on to and didn’t come home.
Is is just because Obama is half white that so many can’t stand it or is it because maybe just maybe Obama wants equalize the haves and have nots a tad more. What the hell is to be afraid of after 8 years of pure, unrelenting misery.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm…
stark?
stark…?
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August 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm***
RU,
give him a minute.
maybe he’s busy googling it.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pmPoor, poor, tuck tail and slink away starkravingcrazyguy…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm\ joe cantwell says:
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nice catch pilot.
stark?
:)
Your Welcome
August 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pmthe mOS dont seem to fit the poster
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/roane040908.htm
OT but interesting nonetheless…
It seems pretty straightforward to Reagan’s staff that Bush did not fulfill his obligation. Thanks for that tip about Google, starkcr! I never would have found this article without it…
did you ever find those dealers going bankrupt???
August 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pmI’m sure Stark heard the bankruptcy rumor on Fox… looking for it now…
August 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pmMegaloptera McWars says:
starkcr31 says:
“What branch of the military were you in, starky?”
Army, 98G.
Chairborne Ranger?
smiles or we called them Remf`s real echelon mother fu-kers
August 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pmoops fat fingers
not real but
rear echelon mother f-ckers
August 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pmNope… can’t find anything on this supposed non-payment for C4C
August 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pmWell, that’s just odd. You guys call out stark for details of his “service” and he disappears. Completely! It’s like magic!
I, too, went to the google on the internets and can’t find a single reference to dealers going bankrupt due to the C4C program. Okay, I did find a comment on michellemalkin but I don’t think that counts as proof of anything. Consider the source, consider who would post there.
What I did find was that some dealers who are actually in bankruptcy are finding that C4C is helping them to liquidate their inventory. Which I would think is a good thing.
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm***
pilot,
never seen a troll stopped so dead in it’s tracks.
*
outstanding!
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pmLynB says:
Nope… can’t find anything on this supposed non-payment for C4C
Well i fthere was a non-payment for a C$C is because
A) all the requirements was not made
1a) like the person filling out paper worked didnt do it correctly.
1b) the buyer didnt give the correct and proper paper work for the 1 yr of registration or insurance or it been running for a year.
other then that i haven seen any dealers not getting paid.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pmStark answered “Nope.” when asked if he had a link and then had this admission of wishful thinking, I said they will be bankrupt, not that they are. and had this doozy, How long do you think a dealership can run without getting paid?
So not only did he refuse to provide a link, in his mind dealers going unpaid is a current event. Is 2010 White Wing Power in the air?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pmGood research, spencer’s mom. Are you exited about about Joe Sestak’s official entry into the race? He’s got a great campaign account to start and can really go at Specter’s decisions in the last few months alone!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pmjoe cantwell says:
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pilot,
never seen a troll stopped so dead in it’s tracks.
*
outstanding!
:)
Well then Good job to all!!!!!!!!!
its fighting the good fight that works always while they fight the wrong fight.
TGIF
August 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pmMcWars, I’m totally behind Sestak. I’ve actually met and personally corresponded with him (his district is right next to mine) and he’s a great guy. A little Blue, but still far more progressive than most, and certainly a better choice than Specter.
After watching Obama “tell” us to call off the campaign against Dems who don’t support healthcare reform, I’ll be interested in how deeply he, along with Biden and Gov. Rendell, will try to insert himself into our primary.
Newsflash: We don’t have king-makers in this nation, and no one tells PA Dems who our candidate will be!
Promises to get interesting!
PEACE
August 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pmThat’s the spirit, spencer’s mom! (I don’t know if you will read this, since I’m posting nearly two hrs later and you may have moved on entirely, so sorry about the late response).
The primary process for an incumbent is treated all too often as an afterthought, and the administration isn’t helping. Give the endorsement and campaign for the nominee AFTER the primary ; otherwise, don’t try to overcome the locals in a useless bid to build non-existent bipartisanship! Specter is going to be another Ben Nelson if elected!
Please do anything you can to melt the super glue holding Specter’s butt to the seat!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:26 pmJust looked up 98G ~ it’s a linguist.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pmProbably not a cunning linguist…
Rich thugs on steroids. Now you know why they scare me.
August 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pm