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Pelosi Is Not ‘Deranged’ — Swastikas And Comparisons To Hitler Are On Display At Town Hall Protests

Earlier this week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) came under heavy criticism from the right wing for her dismissal of the town hall tea parties as nothing but “Astroturf.” She also noted the disturbing fact that participants have been “carrying swastikas and symbols like that.”

The conservative site Wizbang called her claim a “crock.” Rush Limbaugh said that Pelosi was “deranged” and accused her of calling conservatives “Nazis.” He then, however, went on to note the similarities between Democrats and Nazis:

The Speaker of the House accusing people showing up at these town hall meetings of wearing Swastikas — that is not insignificant folks. This woman is deranged. They are unraveling. But that is not insignificant. You have the Democrat Speaker of the House saying that people — citizens — who are concerned about health care are now wearing Swastikas. She’s basically saying that we are Nazis. She is saying that the people who oppose this are Nazis. [...]

This party, the Democrat Party, and where it’s taken this country — the radical left leadership of this party — bears much more resemblance to Nazi policies than anything we on the right believe in at all.

Pelosi did not seem to be calling conservative protesters Nazis, but rather calling attention to the disturbing number of Nazi references at these tea party protests. A few examples:

swastikas

The intent of these displays is to portray Obama as Hitler and his proposals as fascist, and they seem to be following the lead of many right-wing pundits. Just yesterday, Limbaugh said, “Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate.” Fox News host Glenn Beck — an inspiration for many of these town hall attendees — has said “fascism is on the rise.” Even Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) has talked about the increasing danger in America of “true fascism.”

This August recess isn’t the first time we’ve seen these displays at tea parties either. Signs comparing Obama to Hitler or other global dictators were prominent at the tea parties a few months ago as well.

Update Anti-Defamation League National Director and Holocaust survivor Abraham Foxman put out a statement today criticizing "attempts by some opponents of health care reform to bring Nazi imagery into the debate":
Regardless of the political differences and the substantive differences in the debate over health care, the use of Nazi symbolism is outrageous, offensive and inappropriate. Americans should be able to disagree on the issues without coloring it with Nazi imagery and comparisons to Hitler. This is not where the debate should be at all.
Foxman also criticized Limbaugh's comparison of Democrats to Nazis, saying, "Comparisons to the Nazis are deeply offensive and only serve to diminish and trivialize the extent of the Nazi regime’s crimes against humanity and the murder of six million Jews and millions of others in the Holocaust. I don’t see any comparison here. It’s off-center, off-issue and completely inappropriate.
Update An anti-health reform speaker compared health care reform to Hitler's "Final Solution" at an Americans for Prosperity "Patients First bus tour" event in Colorado earlier this week. After repeating the debunked claim that the health care reform bill would mandate euthanasia, the speaker declared, "Adolf Hitler issued six million end of life orders--he called his program the final solution. I kind of wonder what we're going to call ours."


293 Responses to “Pelosi Is Not ‘Deranged’ — Swastikas And Comparisons To Hitler Are On Display At Town Hall Protests”

  1. tombaker says:

    Incoherence and Hysteria (or violence) is the best way to participate in the democratic process.

    Just ask those morans in the pictures.


  2. pastcaring says:

    What a gang of ironic hypocrites…I hope there is a hell…


  3. fletc3her says:

    It’s called projection.


  4. Eykis says:

    The local am radio hack in Nashville said that “people should not take fists to a gunfight”. He says this kind of garbage day in and day out. Help me call him out and get him off the air.

    http://www.gillreport.com


  5. BaPo says:

    The “nazi” pictures are being denied by the wingnuts. They claim to have seen the videos and not the signs.


  6. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Why so much hate for Hindus?


  7. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    karl rove playbook,

    “thou shalt accuse thy opponents of thine

    own fault before they accuse thee!”

    :)


  8. po says:

    hitler, socialist, communist, illegal, muslim, terrorist sympathizer . . . it all gets so trite.

    don’t like socialism, fine. Abolish the military, take care of yourself. Give back your driver’s license, you won’t need it because they’ll be no road. say goodbye to professional sports, ain’t no stadium being built by the teams. we can go on and on.

    morons


  9. dbadass says:

    I am not a Nazi. My work history shows I stopped working for them a year ago…


  10. Moderate Man says:

    I’m glad that these people are holding up the signs that identify themselves to the rest of us… ;)


  11. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    bapo,

    kenyan birth certificates? yes!

    real proof? no!

    :|


  12. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Rush Limbaugh should be laughed at just like Secretary of State Clinton laughed at John Bolton’s criticism.


  13. backup says:

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  14. belaccifer lacca says:

    The Republican Party ‘leadership’ is getting in on the act…

    http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Rush-Limbaugh-On-Obama-Health-Care-Logo.aspx


  15. Spencer's mom says:

    You know, if these protesters continue to equate Democrats with Nazis, using Swastikas and images of Hilter to malign the Dems, they’re going to alienate their largest voting block – the racist, skinheads, and Klanners!

    Ironic, n’est pas?

    PEACE


  16. KaneJeeves says:

    What’s pitiful is that if you lined up tenets and tactics of the Left, Right, and Nazis, it’s obvious the Right actually ARE modern Nazis. They’re just smart enough to know how to hide the fact. I suggest John Dean’s Conservatives without Conscience. He makes this same point, though doesn’t use the word Nazi perse.


  17. P.D. says:

    Classy! Using a CHILD to sponser propaganda? This is as bad as that SOB who brought that monkey doll to a McCain/Palin rally and when he noticed he was being filmed he gave the doll to a child. What pathetic cowards.


  18. Bob says:

    Did you happen to see BinLaden in the caves you’ve been living in in the past eight years? Forget about the Patriot Act or illegal domestic spying or ostrasizing dissent? Where have you been?


  19. barfly says:

    I think they harbor the secret suspicion that Obama is going to put a tax on stupid, and these folks are scared of the bill they’ll be forced to pay.


  20. hormiga brava chavez says:

    OH NO Obama’s a socialist-nazi-fascist-muslim-arab-kenyan-undocumented-obamacare-rascist!

    And like Stephanie Miller always says – He’s going to tax our fruit juice! AHAHHAHA!

    Makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever!


  21. ralph the wonder llama says:

    backup says:
    Well, they are carrying swastikas, but they aren’t nazi sympathizers.

    Speaker Pelosi didn’t say they were nazi sympathizers.

    That was the unwarranted inference your boy Limbaugh drew from her remarks.

    And you have bought the big man’s spin. Again.


  22. Fred says:

    backup says:

    Always on the side of justice eh cappy. The right is doing wrong again and you are defending…..wait for it…..the wrongdoers. Surprise.

    I notice that you make no defense as in saying that these people are being denied thier voice because, well, no one is denying them are they?

    Where’s the problem with pointing out the hate that these pictures and symbols of an era of hatred and violence represent?

    It might be nice if they actually understood that liberals are more closely related to socialists such as stalin than hitler. That it is the right who behaves and believes in a similar was as hitler and facists throughout history.

    But you go ahead and give them a pass anyway.


  23. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    backup says:

    Pelosi’s charge is disingenuous. The implication that some at the protests are nazi sympathizers. That doesn’t seem accurate from these pictures.

    August 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am
    _____________

    It’s not disingenous. It’s a fact. Some of the tea baggers are indeed white nationalists and Nazi sympathizers.


  24. looktothehills says:

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  25. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hi Daryll. Why don’t you stick around a while? We can talk politics and the application of biblical ideals to contemporary life.

    Sound appealing?


  26. texasrick says:

    I’m sure all of us at one time or another wondered during the cold war how the Russians could sleep at night knowing how corrupt and evil they really were. How can that wacko in Iran rationalize his own rhetoric?

    Now we have to wonder how these right wingnuts can look at themselves in the mirror. It has nothing to do about healthcare for many of these nuts. Again, it’s about Democrats doing good things for the people and the fact that President Obama is a black man.
    These people are sick!


  27. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    hormiga brava chavez says:

    And like Stephanie Miller always says – He’s going to tax our fruit juice! AHAHHAHA!

    August 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
    _____________

    High-fructose corn is a fruit?


  28. looktothehills says:

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  29. neoconsrscum says:

    These mouth- breathers are the same kids who slept through 8Th Grade civics class, who think ‘Islamofascism‘ is more than a cute play on words, who forget that their Masters brought Our Country closer to fascism the past Administration than in recorder history.
    They are loyal servants to the likes of Herr beck, Bog- Irish Moron Hannity, Pilonoidal Draft Dodger & All- Around Opiate Addict Fat-Ass. They’d have made Good Little Nazis themselves.
    Anyone stupid enough to follow FOKKKS “news” and their ilk deserves to live in chains, mentally or steel.
    I say CONTURDS move- anywhere, just move away. You hate our Country and the Dempcratic Process, anyway.


  30. backup says:

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  31. Spencer's mom says:

    Daryll, I can’t believe that, as a Christian man of color, you support what these people are doing. Mock lynchings? Hatred for the Black man? Do you really want your child to grow up in a nation where one party is inciting race riots which will surely lead to violence and death?

    What’s wrong with you?

    PEACE


  32. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Daryll, do you think government should stay out of law enforcement?

    I mean, that’s an industry, right? And private industry is always more efficient than government, right?


  33. backup says:

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  34. Pilotshark says:

    Using a child to hold a sign,,, thats low and well they are the ones who will yell that you shouldn’t pick on plians kids.


  35. looktothehills says:

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  36. P.D. says:

    look@28, Watch who you call a Marxist, You SOB.


  37. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    You should know, Marxist.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    ____________

    What’s wrong with Marx, just out of curiosity?

    Feel free to answer in regards to Karl or Groucho – I really don’t care which.


  38. Spencer's mom says:

    looktothehills says:

    You should know, Marxist.

    And just what, Daryll, did I do to deserve a personal attack from you today?

    PEACE


  39. Fred says:

    looktothehills says:
    Seeing the protesters makes me cry with tears of joy.

    Here’s why you are really crying:

    the Repugs are diminished. Hillary is getting kudos for her job. Bill Clinton is a hero(To most of the world except Repugs) Al Gore is a Nobel Peace Prize winner (Along with Jimmy Carter) And America elected a Black president. The last couple of years have been a disaster to Republicans, even if MSM doesn’t think so. Georgie is reduced to picking up dog-doo. Gonzo is having a hard time landing a job, Dick Cheney is hiding somewhere(As long as he is out of sight, the world is a better place) and Bolton is a joke. And Condi.. Mmm…Where is Condi? Oh well, who cares?


  40. looktothehills says:

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  41. Be Honest says:

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  42. pags2 says:

    The comparison of Obama to Hitler trivializes the reason why we went to war with Germany. These people like Limbaugh and Beck should be publicly chastised.


  43. mary lacewing says:

    Daryll must approve of bullies and loudmouths who prevent others from being heard.

    Daryll must approve of hate-mongering, intimidation tactics and willful ignorance.

    Daryll must approve of people carrying swastikas and inciting people to violence.

    Jesus would be so proud of you Daryll.


  44. dbadass says:

    Hi looktothehills:
    Shouldn’t you be flying nude through the air by now? Face it dude that stupid shit isn’t ever gonna be happening…


  45. looktothehills says:

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  46. ralph the wonder llama says:

    backup says:
    Imagine an anti-war protestor that had a sign with the words:

    “Blood for Oil” with a big buster sign surrounding them.

    b-cup, I thought we talked about this “proof by hypothetical” fetish of yours?


  47. Pilotshark says:

    backup says:

    Someone should ask Pelosi, what is disturbing about someone saying ‘no to nazism’?

    Awww the fact they are saying no to nazism is cause they believe that the Gov, is all ready nazi. So the signs with the buster on it as you pointed out.


  48. dbadass says:

    What does a fellow have to do to get back to the days of eternal damnation and Rio whores?


  49. Fred says:

    backup says:
    The swastikas represent nazism. The signs say ‘no to nazism’. Someone should ask Pelosi, what is disturbing about someone saying ‘no to nazism’?

    Someone should ask you why it’s ok for them to be calling people nazi’s. But you would just turn it into rhetorical nonsense.

    Do you think they are nazi’s and do you think it’s ok to use this hate filled symbol against democrats?


  50. looktothehills says:

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  51. Buckie Boy says:

    Glenn Beck — said “fascism is on the rise.”

    Just look at the idiots at these Town Hall Meetings and you get the idea that they don’t have a clue what ‘Fascism’ is.

    These are the ignorant racists who truly don’t have a clue to what the Health Care bill will be, they are only doing this because their side lost and they are racists.

    They are angry that Dems won and more angry that the President is half black, they will never calm down, we are in for 7 years of this crap.

    Hopefully they will get police at these events and throw out people who are simply there to cause trouble.

    I just fcuking hate conservatives, just fcuking hate them.


  52. P.D. says:

    Hey, At least they are reusing their signs from the last ‘Tea-Bagger’ rally. I’m all for recycling.


  53. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Darryl: I said certain sectors. Government should stay out of the private sector. Free Market and capitalism is good for this country.

    Maybe the government should stay out of the defense business, eh? Let all those big-money contractors go out of business, right?


  54. Be Honest says:

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  55. Be Honest says:

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  56. dbadass says:

    Be Honest:
    Can you please true to your name and acknowledge that I never did any such thing? Thanks…


  57. misscoleopteramolly says:

    backup says
    August 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Pelosi’s charge is disingenuous. The implication that some at the protests are nazi sympathizers. That doesn’t seem accurate from these pictures.
    ____________________________________________________________

    I don’t see Pelosi’s charge as disingenuous at all. She said that protesters were “carrying swastikas”. The pictures show that to be true. And accurate.

    Pelosi didn’t say these people were Nazis. She stated something these pictures show to be a fact. Try going by her actual words instead of Limbaugh’s claim of what she implied.


  58. Purple State says:

    I think the real outrage here should not be the association of these people to the “non-swastikas” they carry to these meetings. The real outrage is that people are using Nazi symbolism PERIOD.

    You can only look to the past for associations for so long. The comparisons of ANYONE–Democratic, Republican, or Independent–to the Nazi party and Hitler MUST STOP.

    That’s what Pelosi is getting at here. She’s not associating the protestors to Nazism. She’s pointing out that the other side is going so far as to associate Obama and Democrats to Nazism by bringing up the sacriligious symbol.

    That’s the protest you should be taking from this. NO ONE should be compared to Hitler or the Nazis.


  59. looktothehills says:

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  60. dbadass says:

    looktothehills
    Jesus said you are a f ucking loony…


  61. alpuz3 says:

    Here you go backup…

    automatic back patter.

    Splurge a little on yourself.


  62. Fred says:

    Be Honest says:
    Union Thugs beat up a Black Conservative

    a black conservative is a paradox. It doesn’t exist in nature. If it exists it is an example of mental disorder.


  63. neoconsrscum says:

    #40– Yeah, look how outsourcing the Military has gone- we have the likes of “Christ- STAIN” Erik Prince’s Crusader Army, Blackwater, murdering innocents at will-
    VP’s company, STILL PAYING HIM- KBR/ Halliburton- $100. for 10- pieces of laundry in Iraq- 5 Pr. of socks, maybe 3- t-shirts and a drawers, 3- Pr. socks,
    KBR- hires idiots to wire troop quarters, kills US soldiers, gets away scot- free-
    Great precedent, there, Sparky—-


  64. ralph the wonder llama says:

    looktothehills says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:

    Daryll, do you think government should stay out of law enforcement?

    I mean, that’s an industry, right? And private industry is always more efficient than government, right?

    I said certain sectors. Government should stay out of the private sector. Free Market and capitalism is good for this country.

    No, Daryll, you didn’t say “certain sectors”. You said “Government should stay out of certain parts of our industry”

    I’m trying to draw a bead what “parts of our industry” you think government should stay out of, and what parts it should embrace. “Private sector” doesn’t really tell me anything.

    Is law enforcement a “part of industry” that is appropriate for government to engage in?

    And if government is as inescapably inefficient as you say, why would you consent to involving it in such critical public services as keeping our persons and property safe?


  65. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    backup you are such a disingenuous as shole. You know damned well (if you read exactly what Pelosi said and NOT what Limbag told you she said) that she is concerned about these Clown Hallbaggers equating Obama with Hitler and nazis. She is NOT calling them nazis, she is well aware of the buster sign and point they are making. It is a false accusation (surprise, surprise) brought on by White Wing spin and sold to you sheeple that what the Administration is doing equates to the Third Reich. Her point is that you sorry as sed fools fall for the spin hook line and sinker every time. You and your ilk are the epitomy of the low information voter. Led by either religious idealism, fear of change or just plain old racism people like you are suckers for the Republic Party and corporate America’s tactics. Keep swilling the kool aid though, your posts are great entertainment!


  66. Be Honest says:

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  67. dbadass says:

    Things in the world are becoming much worse

    How so and please be specific…


  68. belaccifer lacca says:

    The signs say ‘no to nazism’. Someone should ask Pelosi, what is disturbing about someone saying ‘no to nazism’?

    Nothing. Unless they are accusing you of being a Nazi despite all logic and evidence to the contrary.

    No one likes rape and murder, what’s wrong with a sign that says ‘No to Rapists and Murderers’?

    Nothing.

    Now say I show up at every event you attend with that sign and others which read, ‘Backup- Rapist and Murderer?’ or ‘”I Support for RAPISTS and MURDERERS”-Backup!’

    Can you see why people would begin to question my commitment to discussion?


  69. Spencer's mom says:

    Daryll, I’ll ask again – what did I do to warrant a personal attack by you?

    PEACE


  70. Purple State says:

    Be Honest says:

    You all did the same comparing Bush tio Hitlet. Don’t cry when the tables are turned.

    Now let ME be honest.

    Are you accusing us ALL of comparing Bush to Hitler? Because I’d like you to pick out exactly where and when I did. I’m calling you out, BH.

    NO ONE should be compared to Hitler.


  71. looktothehills says:

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  72. P.D. says:

    Be Honest@%54, I, nor my friends, ever called Bush Hitler. Stupid, yes, war criminal, yes…. but never Hitler.


  73. coord_xfrm says:

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  74. Frugalchariot says:

    “It makes no difference whatever whether they laugh at us or revile us, whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again, and that we gradually in the eyes of the workers themselves appear to be the only power that anyone reckons with at the moment. …”

    “[O]ne can never count on protection on the part of the authorities; on the contrary, experience shows that it always and exclusively benefits the disturbers. For the sole actual result of intervention by the authorities-that is, the police-was at best to dissolve, in other words, to close the meeting. And that was the sole aim and purpose of the hostile disturbers.” [...]

    “If through some sort of threats it becomes known to the authorities that there is danger of a meeting being broken up, they do not arrest the threateners, but forbid the others, the innocent, to hold the meeting, and what is more, the run-of-the-mill police mind is mighty proud of such wisdom. They call this a ‘precautionary measure for the prevention of an illegal act.’

    “Thus, the determined gangster is always in a position to make political activity and efforts impossible for decent people. In the name of law and order, the state authority gives in to the gangster and requests the others please not to provoke him.” ~Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf


  75. Bob says:

    Are they really saying Obama is trying to emulate someone who hated minorities?


  76. backup says:

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  77. Be Honest says:

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  78. Virtual Pebble says:

    The FCC needs to yank Pudge Limpdiddler’s ticket to lie. He does have a license, doesn’t he? It may seem to be an insignificant matter, but the FCC does license announcers, DJs and other on-air people. It was a 3rd class license, with 1st and 2nd class licenses being for radio engineers, etc.

    Maybe they’ve stopped doing that. Wouldn’t want to be bothering The Majestic Limpdiddler with bureaucratic trifles. Part of Raygun/Shrub deregulation…


  79. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    looktothehills (darryl) is here

    to back up backup.

    :|

    “and lo the paraclete of caborca and

    the fool for christ locked dicks and

    exchanged the kiss of peace. amen.”

    :|


  80. ralph the wonder llama says:

    “Be Honest” is obviously a self-admonition, along the lines of someone trying to lose weight telling themselves, “Be Disciplined”.

    In neither case does it seem to be very effective.

    But here’s an objective news report on the “black conservative” incident in question. Enjoy.


  81. dbadass says:

    Darryl
    or is it Daryll?
    Why am I to believe that the big bad government can handle such a challenge as defense but not healthcare?


  82. neoconsrscum says:

    #62- about like a Log Cabin Republi-SCUM; that’s one masochistic mo-fo.


  83. Be Honest says:

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  84. looktothehills says:

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  85. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    coord_xfrm,

    how’s yours?

    still using a straw?

    :)


  86. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    backup says:

    The buster sign obviously means “no”. The signs that are posted in this thread have buster signs around the swastikas (the one actually says “no repeats” of the swastika)

    The swastikas represent nazism. The signs say ‘no to nazism’. Someone should ask Pelosi, what is disturbing about someone saying ‘no to nazism’?

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    ________________

    Actually, the symbol on the signs pictured above represents the creator god Brahma manifested as the evolution of the universe in Hinduism. They also represent strength and intelligence in Buddhism, the seventh arhat of the present age in Jainism, and has been used as a sun symbol in China and other parts of Asia. None of them are technically Nazi symbols, as the Nazi flag depicts the traditional svastika tilted at a 45-degree angle.

    But that’s beside the point.

    Assuming that the signs are indeed anti-Nazi instead of anti-Brahma, what Pelosi is taking offense to is not the fact that the protestors don’t like Hitler. If we were in Germany in the 1930s and these people were holding up anti-Nazi signs, it would be entirely appropriate.

    However, it is not the 1930s, this is not Germany, and the Nazi party is not in power. The quite obvious implication is that President Obama is comparable to Hitler, and that the modern Democratic party and liberals in general are akin to Nazis. It is this type of rhetoric that has already gotten innocent people killed, and will no doubt be the cause of more violence in the weeks and months to come.


  87. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    i do ddeny it.

    :)


  88. P.D. says:

    Be Honest@77, How low can you go? Invoking slavery? Low indeed.


  89. Buckie Boy says:

    Wow, I got to be number 10 on 2 of Dayrll’s posts, what an honor.

    Psssttt – Looktothehills dayrll there is still no God, you are still wasting your time praying to something that does not exist….Fool.


  90. Purple State says:

    Be Honest says:

    Purple State,
    Please mmany Progressives have done that. DO you deny this?

    So now you’re changing your words. You said “ALL” of us, and now it’s “mmany” of us? Which is it? And how much counts as “mmany”? A majority? More than 10%?

    You don’t know.


  91. looktothehills says:

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  92. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    backup says:

    They are equating Obama and his policies with nazism, which is ridiculous and partisan. (also been done by progressives towards Bush, BTW).
    ____________

    Well… Bush did joke about being a dictator… and did say the Constitution was just a G-damned piece of paper… and did engage in preemptive warfare… uh… what point were you trying to make?


  93. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Be Honest says:

    Hey why no commenst on the Black betaen by Union Thugs?

    Hmm?

    “Union thugs?” Prove it. Oh, and here’s the newspaper article on the incident, without the deceptive headline given to the story by Drudge and repeated across wingnuttery.

    Nothing in there to indicate that the attackers were “union thugs”, and you’ll notice there was poor behavior on both sides.

    Two of the people were arrested on suspicion of assault, one of resisting arrest and three on suspicion of committing peace disturbances, police say.

    The forum drew an overflow crowd of several hundred to Bernard Middle School gym in south St. Louis County. Dozens of people, many carrying signs about the health care debate, were kept out because of the turnout. The back and forth between factions within the crowd created a carnival-like atmosphere inside and out between members of the movement opposing President Barack Obama’s policies and groups who came to show support for the president’s proposals.

    Kenneth Gladney, 38, a conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don’t tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room at St. John’s Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was awaiting treatment for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack.


  94. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Be Honest says:

    It’s OK, some Union Thugs got beat up as well. Bring it on!
    ___________

    Oh Good Lord… another silly tough-talker.


  95. Pilotshark says:

    Shaking my head at these nazi carrying sign a-holes,

    I am wondering how all the WWII vets feel about this, i know if my dad was still alive he wouldnt think it was not right.

    As i a vet myself dont think its right it makes MY AMERICA look bad. and by my America i mean the United States of America!!!!!!!


  96. ralph the wonder llama says:

    backup says:
    ralph. I don’t need to tell you this, but I have made more than my share of ridiculous arguments.

    But, come on. Throw me a bone here.

    I think comparing Obama to Hitler is offensive and maybe there are nationalists or Nazi sympathizers that attend protests.

    However, TP is using pictures of these people with signs that are obviously anti-nazi. (Anti-swastika), to make Pelosi’s point that Nazi sympathizers attend the protests.

    THAT WAS NOT PELOSI’S POINT.

    THAT WAS LIMBAUGH’S STRAW MAN CHARACTERIZATION OF PELOSI’S POINT.

    AND YOU BOUGHT IT, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.

    You cannot credibly do that.

    You are in no position to talk about the credibility of anyone else’s argument, until you give up your pathetic Limbaugh parroting and deal with reality.

    Please tell me that you see that and keep my faith alive that there are reasonable people that post here.

    There are reasonable people who post here. Long ago, I thought you were one. You have proven over and over again that I was mistaken.


  97. neoconsrscum says:

    #78- nah, FCC’s worried about us seeing Janet’s nippyy and horribel, traumatic events like that, not minor problems or annoyances like ALLL of Terrestrial radio being bought up and Corporatized by the likes of Clear Channel, Citadel.
    Didn’t we used to prosecute Monopolies?? Or, I guess Thought Monopolies are OK.


  98. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Be Honest says
    August 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Hey why no commenst on the Black betaen by Union Thugs?
    _____________________________________________________________

    If you would actually read the comments here at TP instead of just using it as a place where you can drop troll-turds, you would have noticed I DID comment on that in the previous thread. Of course, I didn’t have much to comment on this specific case, since the only information I had about it was from a very biased rightwing blogsite. But I did say I condemn violence no matter where it comes from.

    I have to ask, though — why do you make a point of saying “the Black”? If the person was white, would you have said “the White beaten by Union Thugs”? Is his color somehow significant in this situation? Does his race make the violence worse? Was he attacked because he was black? What color were the “Union Thugs”?

    Or are you just one of those who believe there are “people” and then there are “Black people” — and these are two completely separate nouns?


  99. dbadass says:

    Be Honest:
    Where is that acknowledgement? Come on there… Put up or shut up…


  100. alpuz3 says:

    Be Honest… joe cantwell already covered this in the thread about the republican lying liar who’s “just a Mom.”

    Here you go..

    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/5420430FDF2036F08625760B00136BBC?OpenDocument

    Those teabaggers sure do come across as thug like.

    Here’s a quote:

    “These tea baggers are dangerous,” she said. “I’m not going to any more town hall meetings until these people calm down.”

    This coming from a 51 year old lady who works as a teaching assistant for kids w/ emotional problems and behavioral disorders.

    Who are you fools going to go after next?


  101. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    Free Market and capitalism is good for this country.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    _____________

    Yeah – the free market sure did a great job with subprime mortgages, CDOs, and credit-default swaps.


  102. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    gummble-bee-itch says:

    “Union thugs?”
    ____________

    I looked at some video from that event.

    You really can’t tell what happened from it, but that won’t stop rightwingers from lying about it and trying to use it anyway they can.


  103. looktothehills says:

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  104. Uncle Ho says:

    Actually, comparisons between Hitler and the previous administration were more accurate.
    remember these gems

    It would be easier in a dictatorship, just as long as I’m the dictator- George W. Bushitler
    The Constitution is just a God damn piece of paper-George W Bushitler

    I only WISH Obama really were the wild eyed socialist the knuckledraggers accuse him of.


  105. looktothehills says:

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  106. ralph the wonder llama says:

    looktothehills says:

    dbadass says:

    Darryl
    or is it Daryll?
    Why am I to believe that the big bad government can handle such a challenge as defense but not healthcare?

    This should be handled through the private sector by regulating laws that protect Americans.

    Daryll, this makes no sense whatsoever.

    The private sector has no part in “regulating laws that protect Americans”.

    Please try to get your thoughts in order before you post, Daryll.


  107. Be Honest says:

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  108. backup says:

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  109. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Free Market and capitalism is good for this country.
    ______________

    Slavery and land grabs were good this country too… well… kind of… for some people… for a while there…


  110. belaccifer lacca says:

    He is alive and well. Many people are being healed and delivered through God’s help.

    But more would be healed and helped by a working health care system… that’s what we’re fighting for.


  111. dbadass says:

    Bring it on!

    Seems you are avoiding it when it is brought on your way… You wouldn’t be a pussy by any chance would you?


  112. looktothehills says:

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  113. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    backup says:

    What makes these protestors so objectionable, when the protestors of Bush regularly used the same comparison?
    ___________

    Apparently you’re ignoring my comment at #92.

    How… how… “you” of you.


  114. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    It is the Government’s (Manager) fault for not regulating the market.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
    _________________

    So you DO support socialism, then?

    Good to know.


  115. Be Honest says:

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  116. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Be Honest says:
    ralph the wonder llama,
    So because he was a Black Conservative it was ok for him to get beaten.

    Please point out where I said anything approaching this comment, or acknowledge that it is a pathetic strawman.

    The STFU.

    Did you read the article?


  117. dbadass says:

    Yo Darryl/Daryll:
    You still haven’t explained how the world is getting much worse? Oh and by the way a think your timepiece needs winding…


  118. looktothehills says:

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  119. Intrepid says:

    looktothehills says:
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    ——————————————————————————–

    Seeing the protesters makes me cry with tears of joy. I am proud to see that there are Americans who stand up against possible totalitarianism. Government should stay out of certain parts of our industry

    Ironic, coming from the same “NAZI” who denies torture?

    LITTLE NAZI!!!


  120. hawaiianchica423 says:

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  121. neoconsrscum says:

    Deregulation- GOOD, say Reagan.

    result- S&L Failures-

    Deregulation- GOOD, say Chimpy, Cheney.

    result- SubPrime Mtg. Meltdown, Credit- Default Swaps used as “Mtg. Insurance”

    Trust ME, said the Republi- SCUM.
    Not again.


  122. Buckie Boy says:

    He is alive and well. Many people are being healed and delivered through God’s help.

    Hahahahahahahaha…..(big breath)….hahahahahaha….(gasp)…hahahahahahha.

    Prove it…

    You can’t, because the Magical Invisible Faerie in the Sky is a made up story by ancient goat herders and your a fool for believing it.


  123. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    looktothehills says:

    Uh…..Government should regulate the Health and Pharmaceutical companies. Get some coffee and read thoroughly.
    _____________

    And unfortunately we’re at a point wherethe Health and Pharmaceutical companies are regulating government…

    And it ain’t surposta work that way, Li’l Feller.

    Not… At… ALL!!!!!!!!!


  124. Fred says:

    looktothehills says:
    This should be handled through the private sector by regulating laws that protect Americans.

    uh, what?


  125. coord_xfrm says:

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  126. dbadass says:

    There you go accusing me of racism.
    — Aren’t you the one that accused me of comparing Bush to Hitler. I have ment both Bush, his mommy, and his daddy. He sir is no Hitler…


  127. belaccifer lacca says:

    I gave you my perspective. Government should not compete with health care and pharmaceutical companies; it should regulate the health care market.

    I thought competition was always GOOD and regulation was always BAD… I’m confused.

    Isn’t the Government trying to ‘regulate’ the ‘health care and pharmaceutical companies’ with this very bill?

    What do you imagine this bill does?


  128. pastcaring says:

    Hell-O Darryl…hey, are ya still following all of our comments at this link: http://www.backtype.com/url/truthofgod.com?


  129. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Be Honest says:

    There you go accusing me of racism. Do you wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    _________________

    Have you even READ your blog, Trajan?


  130. looktothehills says:

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  131. backup says:

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  132. Trollspotter says:

    Be Honest says:

    Do you wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people.

    “You people?”


  133. Luis Chapulin M says:

    backup says:
    What makes these protestors so objectionable, when the protestors of Bush regularly used the same comparison?

    Because tens of thousands of people died needlessly in 2 wars started by Bush. This is about regulating health care.

    Apples and oranges.


  134. tombaker says:

    I don’t like it when really dumb people insist on comparing two things that cannot be fairly compared.

    But there’s no way to disabuse dumb people of their notion those things can be compared.

    SO all that’s left is to point at the dumb people and laugh, because of the silliness they so stridently insist on.


  135. Purple State says:

    backup says:

    ralph and toasterhead. I’ll buy the argument that Pelosi wasn’t comparing the protestors to nazi sympathizers.

    What makes these protestors so objectionable, when the protestors of Bush regularly used the same comparison?

    As much as the conservative fraction here is throwing the “Bush=Hitler” Progressive argument around, I don’t think it’s fair to make ANY association. I personally voiced my opposition to the use of Nazi imagery period, especially to Presidents.

    To say that it was happening to Bush for the past eight years is also unfair. Was this being thrown around during…dare I say it…9/11? HARDLY. In the first six months of Bush’s presidency, I saw no real indication that the “Bush=Hitler” association was in play, yet these images are splashed at the town-hall meetings and thrown all over pundit radio and TV.

    I will admit that I was disappointed when Bush was elected. However, I got on with my life. Some of these people are having trouble doing that.


  136. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:

    Please point out where I said anything approaching this comment, or acknowledge that it is a pathetic strawman.

    The STFU.

    Did you read the article?
    __________

    I looked at the video this morning, at least ONE of the videos made there.

    You really can’t tell what happened from it.

    It would appear the righties have latched onto an ambiguous, undefined event and intend to spin it endlessly to their advantage.


  137. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    “be honest”

    where have i heard that phrase before?

    oh that’s right, from backup.

    many, many times.

    :)

    “What did you thibnk”?

    we will beat them because

    they are all illiterate.

    :)


  138. Fred says:

    Be Honest says:
    any Union member will be fair game as well. You want this, then be prepared for action.

    Watch what happens, you have all opened a Pandora’s Box.

    Actually, it was you who did this, not the left.

    Reported for inciting and progagating violence.


  139. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Funny…
    … Articles about Fascism bring out the trolls.

    .


  140. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    backup says:

    I find both objectionable, but I cannot see how someone could justify the one and condemn the other.
    ___________

    And again, you seem to be deliberately avoiding my comment at #92.

    How… how… “you” of you…


  141. Intrepid says:

    looktotheNAZIS says: My wife who is my sister is at her mother’s home who is married to his brother in Palm Beach and I took the day off from my work lynching AMERICANS.

    There! Fixed it for you little NAZI!!


  142. dbadass says:

    hawaiianchica423:
    Hi. If you can get Borgen’s suburbia ass over here right now to explain why he claims to have lived upon a fishing vessel in Dutch Harbor but never claims to have actually fished that vessel, I will cut you a check for this weeks paycheck right then and there. Borgern appears to be a poser…


  143. looktothehills says:

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  144. ralph the wonder llama says:

    backup says:
    ralph and toasterhead. I’ll buy the argument that Pelosi wasn’t comparing the protestors to nazi sympathizers.

    Well, that’s a step. Kind of destroys the whole argument you were making, but that’s a good thing.

    What makes these protestors so objectionable, when the protestors of Bush regularly used the same comparison?

    I would say it’s the complete lack of understanding of the democratic process and of the historical nature of the Nazi movement, to start.

    It is at best overheated and undercooked, and at worst just flat -out ignorant racist-driven vitriol.

    jon Stewart said it best, I think, when dealing with charges of tyranny from the Right:

    http://markmaynard.com/?p=4666


  145. tombaker says:

    Jesus would not approve of healthcare for profit.


  146. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    and soon a rise of the Anti-Christ that will resolve the global economic problem.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
    ______________

    Wouldn’t that be a good thing?


  147. squidbilly says:

    Weren’t the Nazis anti communist and totally nationalistic? so how can Obama be a Nazi and a Socialist/Communist????

    These right winger guys are just throwing jingles to get people riled up. They assume everyone has heard of Nazis so they will know whomever is called a Nazi is bad whether true or not.

    Facts, who needs ‘em?? Truth, what for?? Using one’s brain??? too much effort!!! Listen to your stupid right winger with his catchy jingles? Yup! – The kind of behavior that did bring Hitler into power.

    Given that some people buy this stuff is the most upsetting since some of these morons will turn to violence.


  148. Reggie says:

    Be Honest:

    Why can’t you be honest and admit that you are nothing more than a petty incompetent troll, who happens to be intellectually out of his league when he posts his mindless drivel at Think Progress?


  149. tombaker says:

    lookie – you wouldn’t know marxism if it climbed up in your bed and died there.

    why are you righties SUCH HYSTERICAL NINNIES????

    Chicken Little was the epitome of chill compared to you guys.


  150. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    jesus threw the money

    changers out of the temple.

    ***

    jesus would throw the republicans

    out of the town halls.

    :)

    can i get an “amen”?

    :)


  151. coord_xfrm says:

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  152. dbadass says:

    looktothehills:
    Shall we examine this ridiculous anti-christ premise? You used to be so much funnier when you were plausible. Anyway where is this anti-christ evidence. Still that other stuff was the makin’s for a good Bob Marley tune…


  153. Fred says:

    Be Honest says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
    Fred,
    Oh so Blacks have to support Progressives?

    Yes, unless they are braindead.


  154. Virtual Pebble says:

    78. Virtual Pebble sez:…

    oh dang. Limpdiddler doesn’t have to have a license that can be yanked. The FCC decided that the operators (DJs) mostly didn’t need a license because the transmitter systems didn’t need minimally technically competent* people to keep an eye on them anymore.

    *minimally technically competent: knows where the “OFF” switch is. That certainly lets out “guys” (term used advisedly) like Limpdiddler.


  155. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Hey, ralphie…

    Sometime in the next few minutes, that chucklehead back’dup is prolly gonna finally reply to the comment I posted at #92.

    Unfortunately, I have to go.

    Mind if I hand off the baton to you?


  156. backup says:

    This is getting ugly and you all started this with your non stop attacks for 8 years.

    Be Honest. The problem with this is: Eye for an eye we all go blind.

    What would be your plan. To try to regain power and have pissed progressives trying to outdo the ugliness that conservatives carry out today?

    Obama is not Hitler. That’s pathetic. If you disagree with his ideas, make it be about that.

    If you can’t do it without the extreme rhetoric, maybe the conservative ideas aren’t that strong.


  157. Be Honest says:

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  158. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Republic of Stupidity says:

    It would appear the righties have latched onto an ambiguous, undefined event and intend to spin it endlessly to their advantage.

    Really?

    They would DO that?


  159. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    from a guy who talks

    about “face transplants”.

    ***

    we get alot of you folks here.

    i understand why.

    i’ve seen your blogs.

    :)


  160. backup says:

    Wouldn’t that be a good thing?

    Great point.


  161. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I got the next leg, TRoS.

    I’m not counting on that b-cup reply, though.


  162. dbadass says:

    You wouldn’t be a pussy by any chance would you?
    — Seems old Be Honest may be a pussy. Can we get better pretenders around here please…


  163. belaccifer lacca says:

    coord_xfrm says:

    This place is an interesting blend of insanity, sound reasoning, and total bullshit!

    Which was this?

    coord_xfrm says:
    There’s nothing wrong with Pelosi that a f’n face transplant wouldn’t cure.

    ???


  164. osage says:

    REPUBLICANS ARE AMERICA’S ENEMY WITHIN

    Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and insurrectionary OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.

    Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using conflicting economic theories as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.

    Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.

    Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from repairing the damage caused during a Republican presidency.

    Republicans ARE offering controversial arguments they know no one can agree on to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They’d rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance. That’s how they gained power and that’s how they’re trying to retain it.

    Republicans AREN’T the LOYAL OPPOSITION; they ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that duplicity and betrayal are their preferred modus operandi.

    It’s one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican corporatism and extremism that have poisoned and crippled America.



  165. looktothehills says:

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  166. fstuart says:

    As is par for Rush and other conservative supporters, they apparently knows nothing about political science or history. If you place political ideology on a continuum, to the right of center are the conservatives. On that same area would be placed the Nazis. Both the conservatives and the Nazis are pro military/industrial supporters as key to the government structure. Hitler was supported by the military/industrial complex. If any one group is a Nazi it would be the Republican Party and their leaders. PS By the way,Socialism/Communism are OPPOSITE of the Nazis. You can’t both a Nazi and a Socialist.


  167. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    bh (twajie)

    maybe your girlfriend’s pic

    will help you remember.

    :|


  168. dbadass says:

    Who is Trajan and I don’t know you or was addressing you.

    Just some loser wannabe Columbian trash pretend Latin King meatball that listens to shitty music and has a skank out chick with shitty teeth…


  169. looktothehills says:

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  170. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    “JESUS IS REAL!!!”

    and he’s coming for you.

    ***

    be afraid.

    be very afraid.

    :0


  171. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    In our church (within the past 3 weeks), two gentlemen and one woman was delivered from homosexuality,

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    _______________

    Homosexuality delivers now? Cool!

    So if they don’t get there in 30 minutes, do you get the gay for free?


  172. Be Honest says:

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  173. ralph the wonder llama says:

    backup says:
    You are in no position to talk about the credibility of anyone else’s argument, until you give up your pathetic Limbaugh parroting and deal with reality.

    ralph. you must listen to Rush more than I do. I have no idea what he has said on the issue.

    I don’t listen to Rush at all. I read what TP reported in the article above. that’s what i was referring to.

    Well, that, and your history of defending Limbaugh’s statements using extremely flexible language and argumentation.


  174. Purple State says:

    looktothehills says:

    In our church (within the past 3 weeks), two gentlemen and one woman was delivered from homosexuality, and another individual, who was declared as dying from cancer, has been informed that her cancer was in remission. JESUS IS REAL!!!

    Jesus IS real.

    Here’s proof.


  175. misscoleopteramolly says:

    looktothehills says
    August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Instead of allowing government to take over the health industry, how about creating laws to prevent the health care industry industry from mistreating American citizens?
    ____________________________________________________________

    This has been explained many times, and you still don’t get it. But I’ll try again, since I have a few minutes.

    In the first place, the government is not trying to “take over” the health industry. This is a meme often repeated by health insurance providers and their followers, in an effort to get people to believe President Obama is proposing to turn us into the Soviet Union — where all medical care will be administered by government doctors, government hospitals, government health facilities, and all care must first go through the government for permission.

    This isn’t the case. Neither the President nor anybody in Congress is suggesting anything remotely like that scenario. Nobody’s even suggesting a universal health care system similar to Canada or the United Kingdom.

    What IS being suggested is a public health plan, administered by the government, that would operate in the marketplace along with private insurers. It would be similar to Medicare, in that insureds would still go get their care from private doctors and private hospitals — same as they do now. The government would only be providing the insurance — not the actual health care. Unlike Medicare, the plan would be available to anyone who wants it, regardless of age. But like Medicare, the insureds would be required to pay for it. Those who cannot pay for their insurance would be fully or partially subsidized by the government, similar to Medicaid.

    Now, about your suggestion that we create “laws to prevent the health care industry industry from mistreating American citizens” — wow, what a great idea (smacking forehead)! Why didn’t somebody think of that before?

    Because if we made laws to force health insurance companies to do what needs to be done (you must accept people with pre-existing conditions, you must not drop people just because they file a claim or become too expensive, there’s a limit as to how much you can charge for premiums, and you must not limit the services you cover below a set of established basics), they would scream that they weren’t being allowed to operate their business freely. And they’d have a point.

    By giving them some competition instead, they could still operate their business as they see fit (although the models of the bill I’ve seen so far indicate there may be some regulation of industry players), but competition will encourage them to be more efficient and provide more to their customers.

    Which would you rather see? Insurance companies hamstrung by a lot of regulations? Or motivated by competition?


  176. Trollspotter says:

    backup says:

    Be Honest. The problem with this is: Eye for an eye we all go blind.

    What would be your plan. To try to regain power and have pissed progressives trying to outdo the ugliness that conservatives carry out today?

    Obama is not Hitler. That’s pathetic. If you disagree with his ideas, make it be about that.

    If you can’t do it without the extreme rhetoric, maybe the conservative ideas aren’t that strong.

    backup, whatever our political differences may be, I think it’s great to see a post like this. Well said and thanks for speaking up.


  177. Spencer's mom says:

    tombaker says:

    Jesus would not approve of healthcare for profit.

    Or, more specifically, Jesus would not condone denying healthcare for the sole purpose of maximizing profits.

    I think He was pretty clear about the value of human beings over money.

    PEACE


  178. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Is it just me or is Daryll completely out of his gourd today?

    I mean, even more than usual.

    Generally, you can follow some thin string of Christianist dogma through his prattle, but today he’s just freestyling the crazy.


  179. looktothehills says:

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  180. tombaker says:

    with a handle like Be Honest, you shouldn’t lie so much dude.

    it’s like McCain saying he only turned to shitty campaign tactics because Obama wouldn’t do Town Halls with him.

    excuse-making at best, outright lying at worst.

    in any event, it’s just some very sour grapes from some very sore losers.

    grow up and get over it – you’re an embarrassment to the whole country.


  181. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    here ya go, darryl!

    :)

    “cast the first stone”
    – j.c.

    :|


  182. gummble-bee-itch says:

    backup says:

    ralph. you must listen to Rush more than I do. I have no idea what he has said on the issue.

    So you didn’t actually read this very post? You know, the one that quotes two entire paragraphs from Rush?

    WTF are you doing commenting on a post you didn’t bother to read?


  183. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Be Honest says:

    THEY STARTED IT!!!!!

    Someone call the Waaaaaaaaahmbulance.


  184. gummble-bee-itch says:

    looktothehills says:

    Jesus never stated that competition is wrong.

    He never stated socialism was wrong, either.


  185. alpuz3 says:

    Be Honest @ 173.

    Reread your own post. I’ll be honest w/ you. That’s some seriously bent bullsh*t you got swirling around upstairs.

    So the left is responsible for the teabaggers and the birthers?

    Me thinks you’re in need of a little “honest” introspection.


  186. looktothehills says:

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  187. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #180,

    what’s in your coffee?

    jesus never flew a kite or

    rode a unicycle either you sodomite.

    :)

    amen.

    :0


  188. dbadass says:

    Be Honest:
    So are you now calling Bush a conservative? Every conservative I know has tried to distance themselves as far away from that clown as possible. What about daddy was he a conservative too?


  189. looktothehills says:

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  190. Fred says:

    Be Honest says:
    Fred,
    So Blacks have to support Progressives. If they don’t then it is OK to attack them? WHo are youi to tell people whom to support?

    who attacked them? You’re the only one on the attack albeit you are just an ankle biter.

    I also don’t tell anyone who to support.

    It’s just common sense that chickens shouldn’t support col sanders. What happens if they do?


  191. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Trollspotter says:
    backup says:

    Be Honest. The problem with this is: Eye for an eye we all go blind.

    What would be your plan. To try to regain power and have pissed progressives trying to outdo the ugliness that conservatives carry out today?

    Obama is not Hitler. That’s pathetic. If you disagree with his ideas, make it be about that.

    If you can’t do it without the extreme rhetoric, maybe the conservative ideas aren’t that strong.

    backup, whatever our political differences may be, I think it’s great to see a post like this. Well said and thanks for speaking up.

    Okay, I’ll give it up for this too. This is what keeps b-cup interesting here.


  192. gummble-bee-itch says:

    looktothehills says:

    Actually, Republicans abolished slavery. Democrats wanted more segregation. Libs, read your history book.

    That was then, this is now. It’s a sick thing when you have to go back 40 years or 140 years to validate your political party, doofus. That Republican Party hasn’t existed since 1968.


  193. looktothehills says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  194. dbadass says:

    joe cantwell
    Damn that chick is nasty and I usually would say such a thing about a lady…


  195. dbadass says:

    actually I wouldn’t but in this case it works…


  196. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Daryll is now going to “Republicans abolished slavery” well to defend his party’s failure to connect with his people (that’s “dark-toned individuals”, right, D?).

    Too bad he’s got to back a century and a half to find the last good thing a Republican did for a black man.


  197. belaccifer lacca says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    What where all those loves and fishes about? Isn’t that a parable about community and sharing?


  198. looktothehills says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  199. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    darryl,

    this “history book“?

    ..

    got your copy yet?

    :)


  200. dbadass says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.
    — Now you should have know I would ask for the evidence in support of this…So let’s have them. If this is true why are there there political parties. Should not all be registered independents…


  201. Fred says:

    Be Honest says:
    But it was the Left that oponed the Pandora’s box. If you abuse people long enough, they snap.

    That was predictable. the fourth level of trolling. IE, Play the victim. Wa.

    Problem is the troll can’t point to one instance during the bush admin where progressives behaved like the thugs and mobsters that the right have turned into.

    be honest now.


  202. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Be Honest says
    August 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    misscoleopteramolly,
    There you go accusing me of racism. Do you wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people.
    ____________________________________________________________

    All I asked you was why you felt it necessary to mention that the person allegedly attacked by “Union Thugs” was black. I asked you if the victim had been white, would you have referred to him as “the White”? This is a legitimate question, and you haven’t given an answer. Claiming that I’m calling you a racist isn’t an answer. It’s merely a response, and one that indicates you HAVE no answer.

    No, I don’t “wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people”. It’s pretty obvious it’s because we can debunk all their lame arguments.


  203. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #190,

    did yours?

    ???


  204. Intrepid says:

    In our church (within the past 3 weeks), two gentlemen and one woman was delivered from homosexuality, and another individual, who was declared as dying from cancer, has been informed that her cancer was in remission. JESUS IS REAL!!!

    Jesus would send YOU to hell for not helping the “least of these”.

    Jesus would NEVER deny healthcare to anyone because they can’t afford it but you would deny healthcare to anyone who can’t afford it. You little NAZI are the opposite of Christ and go against the very teachings of Jesus Christ you unrighteous little NAZI TROLL.

    YOU ARE NO CHRISTIAN!

    ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; 42for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; 43I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’
    44″Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’
    45″Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ 46These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

    Got your bags packed yet little NAZI? You’re on your way to HELL via JESUS airways.


  205. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Be Honest says:

    Progressives started this by calling Bush Hitler and non stop attacks on any Conservative for 8 years. Eventually people get tired and resist. If the progs had been more civil and less attacks, we wouldn’t be in this mess. This is a dangerous situation that can get out of control. But it was the Left that oponed the Pandora’s box. If you abuse people long enough, they snap.

    Be Honest has admitted that the Right wing has “snapped”.

    Good to know. Now we can direct law enforcement to take protective measures.


  206. Fred says:

    looktothehills says:
    Actually, Republicans abolished slavery. Democrats wanted more segregation. Libs, read your history book.

    If you had taken your own advise you would know that the republicans under Lincoln were the “progressive” party of the era.

    dumbass…..read your history book.


  207. looktothehills says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  208. smidget says:

    I made it through about 50 comments before I had to stop and say something.

    looktothehills:
    If the government isn’t involved in it, it is called “private sector.” The government literally can’t get involved in the “private sector” because once they are involved it is no longer private. So let’s clear up that little vocabular issue right away.

    All industries were, at one time, “private sector” industries, yet the government clearly had need to involve themselves in some facets of the private sector in order to effectively live up to their mandate ofpromoting the general welfare (see military, mail service, school systems, utilties, highways….etc, etc, etc).

    You need to be specific about which industries you object to government intervention, as history shows us very well that some things are much more effectively run by the government, which has no motivation via profit only in providing citizens with vital needs. Rarely, if ever, does government involvement entirely push out private industry, anyway (see UPS, private schools….etc, etc, etc).


  209. backup says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  210. Trollspotter says:

    looktothehills says:

    #199

    Flagged.


  211. dbadass says:

    Be Honest:
    You really are a pussy it seems… I had hoped this was not the case but I suppose it is what it is…


  212. ralph the wonder llama says:

    belaccifer lacca says:
    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    What where all those loves and fishes about? Isn’t that a parable about community and sharing?

    I doubt if this point will get Daryll’s attention.


  213. tombaker says:

    not so much a pussy,

    just TFSTKAB – like a lot of them.


  214. Fred says:

    Be Honest says
    misscoleopteramolly,
    There you go accusing me of racism. Do you wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people.

    Here, let me clear this up for you. Don’t care what they think, don’t care what you think. If they’ve had it then let them cry.


  215. dbadass says:

    looktothehills
    why would anyone call you that? When lunatic is somuch more appropriate?


  216. looktothehills says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  217. Reggie says:

    Toasterhead:

    You noticed the stench of failure too, no matter how hard tries to hide it, that stench follows poor pathetic Trajan everywhere.

    It appears he recently had been exposted on the web for what he really is, by a large group from the right. At about the same time, he caught the eye of a certain ethnic group in Dearborn Michigan, which led Trajan to take a sabbatical from his War on Islam.

    Trajan chooses to take his anger out on us, rather than learn a valuable life lesson. I would advise Trajan to cool it for a while, he has done himself enough damage already, and the last thing he needs his more attention.


  218. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    so i googled

    “jesus wanted us to be independent”

    and got this.

    ***

    lot of conservative minister types don’t

    agree with darryl. so darryl i won’t call

    you the “c” word but these conservatives

    appear to be calling you the “L” word.

    “L” for liberal, wear it with pride.

    *

    amen.

    :)


  219. ralph the wonder llama says:

    misscoleopteramolly says:
    Be Honest says

    misscoleopteramolly,
    There you go accusing me of racism. Do you wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people.

    No, I don’t “wonder why many on the Right have had it with you people”. It’s pretty obvious it’s because we can debunk all their lame arguments.

    Another patented missmolly SMACK DOWN!

    No one can deliver the goods with the precision and gentility of our missM.


  220. dbadass says:

    Okay enough goofing on the nitwits, posers, and attention seekers. There is reuben with my name on it, a cold beer, and a pickle wedge calling. Have fun gang…


  221. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    “Hell is real. Keep mocking God. You reap what you sow.”

    *

    yes, you do.

    :|


  222. looktothehills says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  223. gummble-bee-itch says:

    looktothehills says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    You want to point to a reference in the Gospels, Daryll? Or is this just more of you making stuff up about Jesus?

    I suspect it’s the latter, because that’s all you ever do. For someone claiming to be a Christian, your ignorance of the Bible is breath taking.


  224. ralph the wonder llama says:

    looktothehills says:

    Look, the problem with health-care is the people. If fat blubber-butt Americans would get on a treadmill and receive an semi-annual physical, health issues would decrease. This is why I have proposed (via my Congressman) that people who practice bad health habit see an increase of 15% on their premium.

    Daryll, if government should stay out of health care, why are you proposing a change to it via your Congressman?

    I suggest it’s time for a nap, D. Go “shake the devil off” and then have a nice lie-down. You’re gonna hurt yourself if you keep stumbling around like this.


  225. ralph the wonder llama says:

    gummble-bee-itch says:
    looktothehills says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    You want to point to a reference in the Gospels, Daryll? Or is this just more of you making stuff up about Jesus?

    I suspect it’s the latter, because that’s all you ever do. For someone claiming to be a Christian, your ignorance of the Bible is breath taking.

    I love what Anne Lamott had to say on this subject:

    “You can safely assume that you’ve created God in your own image, when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”

    or, as Xenophanes, an ancient Greek philosopher said “If horses had Gods, they would look like horses!”


  226. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    darryl,

    the curse of gronk is upon you.

    it cannot be wiped clean with

    with the coarse wool of forbearance.

    you must prostrate your prostrate

    and beg forgiveness from those that you

    have wronged. amen.

    **

    amen again.

    :)


  227. backup says:

    gummitch and ralph. You’re right about Limbaugh.

    I pulled up the actual clip of Pelosi making the comment. It’s obvious that she is most likely objecting to the comparisons of Obama to Hitler at a healthcare protest and not pointing to the protestors as nazi sympathizers.


  228. dbadass says:

    I also suggest that if the fat blubbery people see a 15 percent increase the registered gun owners also assume an increase in their coverage due to their risk. Now if there are children in the household why don’t we make that like maybe 50%? What do you think looktothehills? Clearly those at higher risk should pay more…


  229. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    ralph,

    i guess that means that

    darryl’s god is a heinie.

    ***

    you are what you eat.

    you are what you worship.

    *

    pussy.

    :p


  230. hellinabucket says:

    You know who are Nazis. NAZIS ARE NAZIS. And that’s it.

    All this fear BS about Nazis and socialism is without merit. Most of the beefs I’ve heard from the fear mongering mobs has already be debunked.


  231. Virtual Pebble says:

    131. buttercup sez:…

    Buttercup, Nancy Pelosi said people were CARRYING swastikas and other symbols around – didn’t call anyone Nazi, did she?

    Rush Limbaugh (or Pudge Limpdiddler, as I prefer to call him in slightly more rabid moments) said that Nancy Pelosi said people were WEARING swastikas.

    There seems to be a difference there, to me. Pelosi’s remark is factual; if you look at the photos, people are carrying posters and placards with around with swastikas, Nazi name-calling crap, etc.

    Limpdiddler is accusing Pelosi of calling those people Nazis, which is not the case at all. She didn’t.

    If anything, in context, Pelosi probably understands quite well that the birther, anti-health care reform crowd is calling the administration and, by extension, the Democratic Party Nazis.

    The congressional Democrats and the administration are, of course, not Nazis. They’re not ruling by fiat, and with regard to legislation, Baucus has bent over backward to accomodate the opposition.

    But the opposition to reform, the astroturf operators and the rePublicrites are operating exactly like Nazis; they’re hiring and encouraging people to behave like “stormtroopers”, the Nazi SD, in trying to shut down honest argument and discussion.

    If the opposition succeeds, you can expect that health care reform will not be revisited for more than a decade and that “health care” will increasingly be available only to a privileged class. Things will be back to “normal” in our great country. You’ll just pay out the nose as you go because there won’t be any insurance risk pool to be part of. Your doctor may be competent or may be a quack; you won’t know until after the fact, but there won’t be any recourse if he’s the latter. We’ll eventually get to where we were, say, around the turn of the century, the 19th century, when there was no law, no regulation, regarding medical matters. Something to really look forward to…


  232. dbadass says:

    now as to those idiotic states that think choosing to not wear a hemit on a motorcycle is freedom I suggest another let’s say 35%. Smokers? 75%. What do you think looktothehills? Anyone that eats at Applebee’s clearly that out to be a solid 75% doncha think…


  233. ralph the wonder llama says:

    One more good quote, this one from Rev. Tony Campolo:

    “To recreate Jesus in your own image rather than allowing yourself to be created in Jesus’ image is what’s wrong with politics.”


  234. tokin librul says:

    Murka is the ONLY nation in the developed world in which the right could even TRY to pull this shit.

    Only in Murka, where history is regarded as either irrelevant or trivial, could the fascists accuse their opponents of fascism without any public or media outcray about their dishonesty…


  235. dbadass says:

    I asked for lean corned beef so I think I should see no increase. Plus I am riding my bike to the restaurant so I figure a reduction of 7% is reasonable… See ya soon crazy zany people…


  236. tokin librul says:

    The problem with the health debate is simple. White people, especially lower and lower-middle class white people, do not want to extend benefits to the “undeserving” minorities.

    That’s the text-book definition of ‘institutional’ (as if there were any other kind) “RACISM!”


  237. pags2 says:

    misscoleopteramolly says:

    looktothehills says
    August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Instead of allowing government to take over the health industry, how about creating laws to prevent the health care industry industry from mistreating American citizens?
    ____________________________________________________________

    This has been explained many times, and you still don’t get it. But I’ll try again, since I have a few minutes.

    In the first place, the government is not trying to “take over” the health industry. This is a meme often repeated by health insurance providers and their followers, in an effort to get people to believe President Obama is proposing to turn us into the Soviet Union — where all medical care will be administered by government doctors, government hospitals, government health facilities, and all care must first go through the government for permission.

    You are wasting your time trying to explain to people who have slogans and no facts. They will keep talking about the government takeover and socialism because the protesters don’t care about the facts. In fact, they get confused by facts.


  238. Intrepid says:

    looktothehills says:

    Look, the problem with health-care is the people. If fat blubber-butt Americans would get on a treadmill and receive an semi-annual physical, health issues would decrease. This is why I have proposed (via my Congressman) that people who practice bad health habit see an increase of 15% on their premium.

    Daryll, if government should stay out of health care, why are you proposing a change to it via your Congressman?

    What llama said so eloquently.

    I admire how you contradict yourself LOOKTOTHENAZIS. Your plane to Hell is now boarding at gate 666.


  239. Virtual Pebble says:

    150. joe cantwell sez:…

    AMEN, brother, AMEN…


  240. backup says:

    One problem with religion, is it causes some people to justify evil or to not take personal responsibility for their actions.

    This is from a diary entry of the guy that just shot up the health club, killing himself, three women and injuring 9 others:

    “Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell,” Sodini apparently wrote, before adding later, “I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8255530&page=1


  241. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    looktothehills says:

    Hell is real. Keep mocking God. You reap what you sow.

    August 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
    ______________

    I’m not mocking God, I’m mocking you.

    And please don’t try and scare me with your “hell” fairy tale. Unless you’re referring to the town in Michigan, it is not a real place. It’s a metaphysical construct based on ancient folk beliefs about the afterlife, used by you religious whackjobs to scare people into joining your cult.


  242. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    thanks pebble.

    :)

    darryl,

    remember the curse of gronk.

    you won’t like it.

    get busy, brother.

    :(


  243. Spencer's mom says:

    looktothehills says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    Far be it for me to quote scripture to Daryll, but…

    Matthew 25:41-46

    “Then the king will say to those bad people on his left, ‘Go away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever. That fire was prepared for the devil and his angels. You must go away, because I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink. I was alone and away from home, and you did not invite me into your home. I was without clothes, and you gave me nothing to wear. I was sick and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ “Then those people will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty? When did we see you alone and away from home? Or when did we see you without clothes or sick or in prison? When did we see these things and not help you?’ “Then the king will answer, ‘I tell you the truth. Anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’ “Then those bad people will go away. They will have punishment forever. But the good people will go and have life forever.”

    Sounds a bit socialistic. No mention of the free market or corporate greed.

    PEACE


  244. ralph the wonder llama says:

    b-cup, you bring up a good point (who’d have thought I’d be saying that so soon after post 96?).

    I’ve known religious people, and I’ve know truly spiritual people.

    An important difference between the two is that truly spiritual people embrace their faith as a way of tackling difficult questions. Merely religious people (like Daryll, I’m guessing) embrace their faith as a way of avoiding those questions.

    When certainty creeps into one’s faith life, you can be pretty sure it’s going off the rails.


  245. pastcaring says:

    looktothehills says:

    In our church (within the past 3 weeks), two gentlemen and one woman was delivered from homosexuality,

    Would that be Gino Jennings Church?

    BTW: Newsflash: Psychologists repudiate gay-to-straight therapy

    BTW: Why do you keep track of all of our posts, especially under the name truth of god?

    You are indirectly referring to ThinkProgress as the truth of god, or did that not occur to you?

    :|

    & P.S. # 150
    Amen!

    :]


  246. joe cantwell says:

    ***
    **

    pastcaring &

    spencer’s mom,

    you won’t be hearing back

    from darryl anytime soon.

    :|


  247. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Spencer’s mom; nice response.

    Of course, when daryll is stan ding in the crowd and hears Jesus say, ‘Anything you refused to do for any of my people here, you refused to do for me.’, he’ll say, “But — but – but — they were blubber-butts! they were lazy! They didn’t want to work to achieve! That’s why I didn’t help them!”

    Even then, Daryll will not get it. He’ll still blame the “filthy libs”.

    And he’ll be right.


  248. 5th Estate says:

    What Hitler is famous for:

    Exploitation of Reichstag fire to suspend civil liberties and suppress political rivals.
    Organized intimidation of voters
    Scapegoating of ethnic/religious group
    Suppression of intellectuals
    Book banning/burning
    Government control of media
    Exceptionalism of national ‘race’.
    De-humanization of foreigners as political policy
    De-humanization of homosexuals as political policy
    Domestic spying
    Co-opting of religion (Catholic church)
    Party-controlled political rallies and use of military as stagecraft.
    Militarism
    Appointment of technically unqualified political cronies to positions of power (SS chief Himmler for example, who was a chicken farmer)
    Aggressive (rather than defensive)war
    Torture as policy
    Boasting of military success despite evidence to the contrary.
    Global dominance as manifest destiny.

    Compare to:

    a) Obama and Democrats
    b) Bush and Republicans


  249. CageyCretin says:

    #24 looktothehills says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
    I am proud to see that there are Americans who stand up against possible totalitarianism.

    Yeah, that’s right, buddy!!! Everything that is possible that is bad needs to be stopped before it happens! Dern’ tootin’, buddy! Like, when I go into a bar, I ALWAYS look for the possible trouble-makers and go right for them: I mean, if they might just start a fight it would be better for me to blindside them and get it done with in my advantage to begin with. I’m sure that you do the same thing? It only makes sense. I beat my wife pretty regularly because she just might go out and fool around on me. Can’t have that as a possibility hanging over the household.

    Had to shoot the dog the other day. I realized that he just might go mad-cow crazy and start killing people who come too near our yard.

    It’s a tough world to live in, trying to keep up with all these might do’s, but it is necessary to deal with these possibilities before they materialize so that I don’t have to deal with the possibilities if they happen to happen.

    You just never know.

    Tomorrow I have to go to the hospital and have both my legs amputated, because one day i just might get gangrene in them. Can’t have that. I suggest everyone else do the same.


  250. pastcaring says:

    joe cantwell says:

    While that may be true, I just have to wonder why Darryl only follows our posts on this site…kinda sick if you ask me, especially since he affiliates that account with the truth of god, which refers to a church run by Gino Jennings…

    Just questions for a Friday, that’s all, not really expecting a truthfull answer…

    :|


  251. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Spencer’s mom has it. I don’t know which Jesus is worshipped at Darryl’s church, but it surely isn’t the Biblical Jesus.


  252. backup says:

    ralph. I think faith and religion can serve good purposes. I object to those that use the Bible or Koran or similar religious text as ‘the word of God’.

    It’s supposing someone definitively knows the will of God. And can use that presumption to act as judge and restrict liberty.

    I’m in the middle of Jesus, Interrupted, by this guy:

    http://www.salon.com/env/atoms_eden/2009/04/03/jesus_interrupted/

    It’s a book that highlights all the inconsistencies between the stories in the Bible and shows how the Bible wasn’t even written by the the people it’s been attributed to (ie, Matthew, John, Luke, etc)

    I wonder how many people that think they are being guided by ‘God’s Law’, have ever read it or have any idea what’s even in it.

    It’s my take that those empowered by the Bible (Priests, pastors, religious entities) have no desire for what’s really in the Bible to become widely known.

    If people start to question the Bible, they’ll start to question those using it to wield power.


  253. CageyCretin says:

    #66 Be Honest says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
    It is payback.

    Yeah, baby. Also. That is what the core of it really is. Republicans are mad becuase their permanent republican majority (but still democratic — as long as its republicans only) was stolen from them by the majority of the porr, lesser working type people of the country. But they are poor and stupid and shouldn’t be allowed to vote. maybe we can go back to certain people (by color AND by economic status) being worth only 2/5 of a human being. That would reduce their voting impact. they have numbers becasue those abortion loving libs breed like rabbits.

    But its all about payback. Not about politics.

    Just “payback”, becuase us republicans are petty that way.


  254. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    past,

    thanks for the tip!

    this guy is pretty damn loony.

    ***

    as for darryl i put the curse on gronk

    on him and he’s got deal with that.

    he’s got no time to fool around here.

    :)


  255. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    I think Darryls is waiting for an invitation to join The Family.


  256. aquarius2 says:

    Does anyone really believe this is about health care? This is going to get worse, much worse, unless something is done to stop the insanity being promoted by Fox news commentators.


  257. DRxJ says:

    Dayum!
    I missed the repeated smack down on Parodyll.

    And, a reference to the female posterior.

    I gotta start skipping my lunches!

    :-)


  258. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    Be Honest says:
    “If you abuse people long enough, they snap.”

    Or they vote for a “Democrat”!


  259. Uncle Ho says:

    ruptured rectum says:

    I would never call you a coon. A maroon certainly, deluded, idjit, or definitely an Uncle Tom, but never, never a coon.

    Have a nice day

    snark today
    snark tomorrow
    snark forever


  260. pastcaring says:

    #255 joe cantwell says:

    yep…it’s amazing what a little inspectin’ can find ain’t it?

    :|


  261. AllYouNeedIs says:

    looktothehills says:
    Government should stay out of certain parts of our industry.

    I’ll remind you of that the next time I see you protesting outside a Planned Parenthood, arguing that the government should keep its nose THAT part of the health care industry.


  262. CageyCretin says:

    #107 Be Honest says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.

    This is getting ugly and you all started this with your non stop attacks for 8 years. Don’t complain that people are fed up and resisting.

    That’s right. The poor defenseless republicans spent the last 8 years being oppressed and bullied and threatened, and boy, they finally reached their breaking point (some time in early November of 2008, I do believe, was that final “breaking point” of all this unwarranted harrassment from the left).

    And, boy, oh, boy, DID the people speak up about being sick of being harrassed and intimidated and threatened almost daily… on that same early November 2008 morning, massess of people spoke out against fascism and against the oppression of the people.


  263. LeslieBurton says:

    These folks really need to brush up on their terminology. With the election of President Obama I never realized how really crazy and scary the right wing is. Bill Maher has a great piece in today’s Huffington Post that I recommend. I can’t help but feel that our very smart president, and my fellow progressives are the true grown-ups.


  264. Rich H says:

    I can’t believe I just read all that. It appears the trolls are going for the teabaging/townhall effect.

    Right now Looktothehills is in the lead having been voted down 475 times with backup making a week showing being voted down 205 times. There was a challenge made briefly by behonest, but puttered out after posting some great numbers.

    I’ve got to tell you, looktothehills, if you wan’t to keep your crown you’ll have to do better. Backups known for hanging around forever.


  265. Purple State says:

    Rich H says:

    I’ve got to tell you, looktothehills, if you wan’t to keep your crown you’ll have to do better. Backups known for hanging around forever.

    Backup’s known to provide some good insight at times. LTTH and Tracy can share the crown.


  266. Rich H says:

    Purple State,

    I agree somewhat on the observation about backup. However, whenever he’s being reasonable I wonder if he’s just playing concern troll.


  267. backup says:

    TP’s right on this. Pelosi objected to the swastikas. Limbaugh dishonestly suggests that Pelosi was implying that some protestors are nazi sympathizers.

    The comparisons of Obama to Hitler or his policies with Nazi policies are ridiculous and offensive.


  268. gully foyle says:

    Fellow babies, I have slogged through all 267+ posts on this here page, and I must admit you do a thorough job on the wingnuts.

    My hat’s off to everyone who participated in this rational thinkers v. wingnut ignorance game. Unfortunately, there are no prizes–there is only the satisfaction of knowing that critical thinking is a good thing.

    Me, I got nothin’ to add. It’s pretty much all been said.


  269. backup says:

    Rich H. you’re right about me hanging around and beating dead horses. Working on it.


  270. e_to_the_pOTATO BUG says:

    sigh.

    still waiting for anyone to show me a shred of evididence that links the government competing against private insurance and youngsters being forced into farm labor.

    why are the people that would benifit from this some of the hardest fighters of it?

    did anyone else see how many retired people are there?


  271. Rich H says:

    Hi backup, I’ll try to be a little more reasonable too. Still, you’ve got to admit it was quite a showing from looktothehills.


  272. smidget says:

    @looktothehills

    First of all, that wasn’t a response, it was a sentence that didn’t make sense and was so obtuse that it could have meant anything. Lack of specifics betrays your lack of thought on your position.

    I also note that you reject government intervention in industry, yet apparently contacted your Congressman about getting insurance premiums raised on people with unhealthy habits, which is direct involvement.

    So, which is it? Involvement good, or involvement bad? Let me guess – good when it serves YOUR purpose, but bad when serves the purpose of others. That would be pathetically typical.


  273. e_to_the_pOTATO BUG says:

    HAHAHAHAHA evididence!


  274. eigenVector says:

    Oh no, was somebody ‘offended’? Off with their heads!!!


  275. Sahu says:

    OMFG, I think someone must have spiked my morning coffee with a heroic dose of acid. Either that, or I’ve been catastrophically wrong about the existence of Hell, and it has, in fact, just frozen over, because I just found myself agreeing with Abe Foxman!

    I think I need to go lie down and ponder this new evidence of exactly how crazy the world has become.


  276. wiley says:

    Why are these people so opposed to anything that gives the working man a leg up? You can bet these same people who are saying that the government can’t be trusted to provide health insurance, are just fine with the government having a nuclear arsenal sufficient to destroy us all.

    Clearly, they don’t think straight, and most of them don’t think for themselves. The Common Good is evil to them. I think they hate their fellow Americans, and people in general. The world’s most idiotic misanthropes.


  277. pastcaring says:

    wiley says:

    Why are these people so opposed to anything that gives the working man a leg up?

    Short Answer: They are useful idiots

    Medium Short Answer: They all think they’ll be rich someday


  278. Virtual Pebble says:

    202. Fred sez:…

    My distinct recollection is that the Shrubbery, the Shrub’s handlers and organizers, never allowed any kind of protest or non-approved opinion anywhere in the vicinity of the Shrub or Darth Cheney. The crowds were always well vetted and non-spontaneous.

    And who the hell would want to go to a “town hall” set up buy a rePublicrite Congresscritter. There’s no town hall there; it’s all just “we talk, you listen”.

    And after eight years of that, I can understand why the poor bastards at the base of the party are frustrated, but they really ought to consider taking it out on the people that brought it to them – their very own GNOPe party.

    The Democrats didn’t victimize them and the Progressives were kept at least a block or two away at all times. Chimpy and Darth didn’t want ot hear any of that “The Emperor is a naked idiot” stuff.


  279. Virtual Pebble says:

    re 279:

    Oop, forgot that it’s supposed to be “The Emperor is a naked inhofe“…

    my bad



  280. UCSBKitty says:

    looktothehills says:

    Jesus wanted us to be independent people, Marxist.

    Does this mean you’ll utilize critical thinking when it comes to what your preacher says? After all, we have to be independent thinkers and not sheep… right?


  281. daver1227 says:

    I love how the ADL is now condemning people for invoking Nazism. Pot, meet black kettle:

    “Painful truths about the Holocaust today are being suppressed by college campuses, they’re being suppressed wherever the Palestinian conflict is being discussed. My painful job today is to talk about one of those very difficult historical truths that many would prefer to see ignored..

    The terrible, terrible, terrible tragedy is that there is a direct unbroken line between Hitler and [the anti-semitic Palestinian Mufti} Husseini on the one hand, and today Hamas and radical Islamic Jihadists on the other hand. They are the heirs of Hitler. Ahmedinejad their spoonsor is the heir of Hitler. Those who are complicit in that evil are complicit in the evil of Nazism. Nazism has not disappeared from the world today. It has the same genocidal goals….

    Woe unto any of you out there who support Hamas. You are supporting Hitler’s heirs. Whether you consider yourself a leftist or a centrist, you are complicit in the worst evil of the twentieth century. And there is no way of breaking that bond. As long as Hamas maintains its genocidal attitudes towards the Jewish people…

    This conference is a hate fest. Like Nuremberg was a hate fest…

    Durban I traces its roots to Nuremberg. It traces its roots to the Nazi-Husseini alliance.”

    – Alan Dershowitz, April 2009.


  282. wiley says:

    What the phuck are you talking about?


  283. tombaker says:

    278 – pastcaring, you summed up the universe of winger motvies in the fewest, most necessary terms possible. perfect score, imo.


  284. TexasVietVet says:

    It’s only a matter of time until the wingnuts, agitated by limpballs and the insane idiot beck, start destroying property and kill a few of their political opponents.

    ‘WHEN FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA, IT WILL BE WRAPPED IN THE FLAG CARRYING A CROSS.” Sinclair Lewis


  285. mickster says:

    Is it not sadly ironic that the most fascist amongst are those who use that word to slander and smear others in order to gain the power and control they ascribe to fascism for themselves?


  286. conservative guy says:

    Nancy “BOTOX” Pelosi is an idiot.


  287. Perch Rapala says:

    This liberal hypocrisy is a hoot!! All you have to do is google “+bush +hitler” and you’ll see about 7,000,000 examples of that comparison. If you are upset about the photos at the beginning of this posting, I’d be interested in your concern about the photos on the first page of googling +bush +hitler.


  288. karadagli61 says:

    very thanks for article


  289. regibbons says:

    wiley says:

    Why are these people so opposed to anything that gives
    the working man a leg up?

    Short answer: We aren’t.
    Medium answer: We are opposed to giving non-working people an eternal hand-out


  290. vigor says:

    and just what is domocrat style mean?

    Democrat style:
    “…tax and spend…”
    “…take from the producers and give it to the consumers…”

    You’d think that if the government’s “Great Society” – LBJ’s term – programs were going to work, that they would have worked in the last 40+ years.

    Conservative voters understand numbers. Democrat politicians want voters to believe they have “magic” over the numbers.

    We can’t spend our way out of poverty.


  291. lux says:

    pags2 said:

    The comparison of Obama to Hitler trivializes the reason why we went to war with Germany. These people like Limbaugh and Beck should be publicly chastised.

    They also likened the Boston tea party to TARP!? Actually, I was never sure what the hell the tea party thing was about.. the ‘no taxation without representation’ from what I gathered was because.. they lost? Their attacks are incoherent.



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