Rep. Steve Kagen (D-WI) faced a “heated” discussion about health care at a town hall meeting yesterday, with people in the crowd who were heckling, interrupting, and filibustering him.
One vocal attendee was a woman named Heather Blish, who identified herself as “just a mom from a few blocks away” and “not affiliated with any political party.” When interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, Blish insisted she was not a member of the Republican Party. “I left the party,” she said. Blish’s statements, however, are distortions. From NBC’s report:
Her LinkedIn page shows something different. She was the vice chair of the Republican Party of Kewaunee County until last year. She worked on the John Gard campaign, who ran unsuccessfully against Kagen last year. And it says she’s a part of the Republican Party for Kagen’s district, as well as the Republican Party of Wisconsin, and the Republican National Committee.
Watch it:
Huffington Post’s Sam Stein notes, “Blish’s deliberate misleading of the local NBC reporter feeds into the suspicion that she — like other protesters at these events — are there because of political reasons not policy disagreements.”
Indeed, Republicans have been heavily promoting these protests. Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) has said that the time for polite town halls is “over,” and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) has said that Democrats will have a “very, very hot summer.” State Republican Parties have also joined in.
Lies – the usual republican strategy.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:48 amThis is what gets me about all these tactics. I think most of us are willing to have a debate on the merits of an argument. Let’s agree on what the facts are, then each side can come up with solutions to whatever the problem at hand may be, then lets vote.
But the right wing of our nation wants none of that. It’s inherently un-American.
This shows true cowardice.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:50 amShe’s not “just a mom”, she’s a lying whore. In other words, a typical Republican.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:51 amToo much shame to admit she’s on the wrong side of civil American discourse? If I were a Republican I guess would have to lie about it, too.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:59 amIf you’re going to use your real name then lie about your station in life and/or political affiliation, then consult this handy checklist before opening your mouth:
* What’s on your Facebook page?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am* What’s on your MySpace page?
* What’s on your LinkedIn page?
* Any ‘incriminating’ Tweets?
Wow,,, i would say i am surprised but I know its just SOP for the side with no plan and only dissent.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:06 amGuess being just a mom a few blocks away means you can lie and get away with it. what a great example MOM I will remember this lesson.
Well come on. If YOU were a Vice-Chair of the county Republican Club these days, wouldn’t you try to hide that fact, too?
I know I sure would.
Poor gal is ashamed of her past.
… now, if only she were doing something to redeem herself, instead of simply lying to everybody around her…
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One Thousand Billion
If you’re going to use your real name then lie about your station in life and/or political affiliation, then consult this handy checklist before opening your mouth:
* What’s on your Facebook page?
* What’s on your MySpace page?
* What’s on your LinkedIn page?
* Any ‘incriminating’ Tweets?
good call, but then again you would have to think logically to be able to comprehend the idea of the internet tube thing stuff. oh you mean others can read that though if i placed my hands over my eyes i can not see you and you there for can not see me.
Shaking my head
August 7th, 2009 at 10:10 amPlease remember this when you go to vote. All repiggies behave this way.
Please don’t vote for any of that lying trash in the upcoming local elections.
They all approve of this stuff, no matter what sort of misgivings they may possibly mumble to you in private.
All repiggies are in on this scam.
By the way, Lou Dobbs is a moron.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:10 amI am surprised that the news actually did a fact check. Well done. Please continue and actually start to do in depth fact checking of anything that you run. Please? With sugar on top?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:10 amGlenn Beck needs to be castrated & put in public stocks in the village square, where any citizen can tell him what they think of him while spitting at will.
Same for Mr. Rushblow.
OK, castration isn’t feasible to those who have no balls…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:11 amThe “just a mom line” came out straight off the Glenn Beck 912 playbook found at the Florida chapters web which instructed those who got a chance to speak to introduce themselves as “normal family American…blah blah blah”.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:11 amWay to go TP, keep it up, keep exposing these frauds for what they are.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:13 amGOP, Weapons of Mass Distraction.
From Blish’s Ideal Campaign website:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Not only are they screamers, but they are liars.
Join The Tampa 9-12 Project (ie.Glenn Beck)
http://www.meetup.com/tampa912/calendar/11023521/
Posted Aug 6, 2009 11:22 AM
August 7th, 2009 at 10:15 amDon Hensarling
Steering
Something I picked up on another 912 site: Prefrace your question with: “I AM NOT ASKING THIS BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS ORGANIZED ME TO DO SO OR BECAUSE OF MY POLITICAL PARTY, I AM ASKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY FAMILY OUT OF CONCERN FOR OUR WELFARE”.
The Republicans, for 8 years, laid all of their ideas on the table where the entire country got to see those ideas fail miserably. The Cons have nothing left but lies, violence and temper tantrums…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:15 amThe Democrats need to come up with some strategies to combat this, because other Republican groups are hearing about it and are getting motivated to do the same. If they think their bullying tactics are working, it will only encourage more of it.
Maybe the Democrats need to mobilize themselves and their supporters and start protesting these Republican centers of operation? Let them know that Democrats can mobilize and have their voices heard too?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:15 amIf the Republican Party is so wonderful, why are people ashamed to admit they’re part of it?
Ku Klux Klan members (yes, this is an extreme comparison, but bear with me) don’t advertise their membership, because they realize the mainstream population has a very negative (not to mention visceral) reaction to their organization.
What I don’t understand is that Republicans like Heather Blish are hiding their affiliation in much the same way. What are they trying to tell us? The Republicans aren’t anything like the KKK — are they? Perhaps the similarity lies in that they both have covert agendas.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:16 amDespite the fact that this is a major distraction. I take it as a good sign. It shows very clearly how truly lost the gop is.
With no ideas of thier own they are protesting the fact that we won’t let them be heard and yet no one is stopping them.
Exactly the point that should be made.
I say pick one of the idgits out of the crowd and let them talk. That might be real interesting.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:18 amCageyCretin
I am surprised that the news actually did a fact check. Well done. Please continue and actually start to do in depth fact checking of anything that you run. Please? With sugar on top?
Yes we should give that channel a shout out for doing there job
Good Job now keep it up.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:19 amLies, damn lies, and the liars who tell them.
That’d be Republicans on Global Climate Change, the war in Iraq, torture, the economy, marital fidelity, and -well- pretty much any other topic you can think of…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:22 amFolks, Credit where credit is due. Journalism was committed here. Many thanks to NBC 26 and to Kristoffer Engebretson for taking the time to do the research and calling B.S. on Heather Blish.
Thank you!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:24 amYou can always tell a Republican.
…but you can’t tell them much.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:24 amI think investigations will find that the majority of these attendees who cause trouble are indeed republican operatives.
The woman in this article is an example of the deceptive practices they employ.
I heard this morning of a disabled woman at a town hall, explaining that because she had lost her job and insurance she was unable to get any insurance because of her condition.
She was hooted, shouted down, called a liar, and was otherwise the victim of mob rule.
Is this what repugs want — they are already the party of NO. They are a petulant party of politicians who obstruct, delay and deny. Do they want the whole nation to see what they are?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:24 amAs for the rest of us – are we to be governed by mob rule?
This is not free speech – this is bordering anarchy.
She didn’t say she is “no longer” affiliated with any political party, until she was pressed later by a reporter.
She presented herself as a “just a mom” to the people in the hall.
Now, did it suit her purpose to appear “non-partisan” when she made her arguments against health care reform? Of course. had she identified herself as a Republican, or even as a “one-time Republican”, her judgment and fairness might have been called into question.
As it happened, she presented herself as “just a mom”, and now that her active Republican recent past has been exposed, her credibility, as far as I’m concerned, is shot.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:29 amI know most of us don’t like it when people post links to other items here, but I thought you all might be as horrified as I am over this from Kos.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/7/760239/-The-GOPs-science-gap
This poll that Kos had done shows that 76% of Republicans either aren’t sure, or straight up don’t believe that the continents were once all connected to each other. WTF!?!?!?
The horrifying part is that 50% of Dems agree with that 76%. What the hell?
Again, I’m sorry for being way off topic.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:29 amOn September 12th there is an expected march on Washington by the teabaggers. They have set up this website to recruit their minions: http://912dc.org/
August 7th, 2009 at 10:30 amThe Progressive and Democratic proponents of the healthcare reform should have organized THEMSELVES. The amount of press this event is going to receive is going to overshadow the Healthcare bill and Progressiv es/Democra ts/Liberal s have done little to have their voices heard. Please pass this on with the hope that this will inspire Pro-Reform advocates to fight back. It is time to forget pragmatism and promote action.
Next up from the wingnut insurgents- roadside bombs.
Don’t go ’round tonight
August 7th, 2009 at 10:32 amthey’re bound to take your life
there’s a bad mood on the right
Wasn’t the Republican Party of Kewaunee County in the news last year, over a squabble about Cheney or Bush or a letter of support, where they ended up having someone fired or a resignation by an executive staff member?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:32 amHow embarassing… She didn’t realize that Facebook was on… The Internets!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:34 amI gotta wonder if the baby was just a prop.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:35 amI was shocked yesterday when Rick Sanchez actually pulled a Jon Stewart on Rick Scott, the head-arshole-in-charge of these things, and called him out on his corrpution, dishonesty and cowardly tactics.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:35 amMr. Bungle,
Interesting poll. It shows the smartest people are from the northeast while the dumbest are from the south, while all ethnic groups including “other” are smarter than whites.
That would make white southerners the stupidest people in the U.S. Anyone surprised? Not me, but the numbers are astounding.
Of course the school books in Texas don’t mention the U.S. was ever in any way connected to Africa.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 amHer actions at this meeting show that she really hasn’t “left the party”.
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I just said this on the ThinkFast thread, but it might bear repeating here.
I think that the tide of these protests is turning. Most people are desperate for health care reform. They see these violent protests, and these dishonest tactics, and they realize that those people are not concerned with the same things that most of us are concerned with.
The empty rhetoric starts to ring hollow, the childish tactics get old really quickly.
I really think it will backfire. We just have to keep exposing these shills and Republicans, and hope the media does the same.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:38 amyawn,
It’s all good people. Healthcare is 100% guaranteed to happen. It may be in Reconciliation for a strong bill but it WILL happen 100% for sure.
All this distraction does is show normal Americans (especially independents who are the ones that decide elections) that Republikkkans have no interest in listening or being bipartisan. It’s all good!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:38 amWe need a single nationwide event to show support for HEALTH CARE REFORM similar to the teabagger events, only much, much bigger. Of course this will bring out the opposition and that will be good because it will show the nation just who they are, both in number and character.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:40 amName the day, and
I WILL BE THERE.
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Bullshit. She’s NOT “just a mom”.
MY mom is “just a mom”. My sister is “just a mom”. Neither of them was a high-ranking Republican official a year ago.
Was her presentation enhanced by her characterization of herself as “just a mom”? Absolutely.
Was her Republican activism relevant to her background? You’re damn right it was. And she chose to hide it.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:41 amunbelievable,
Yes we should also give a shout out to Rick Sanchez for that as well he did a great job. well honestly he really only did his job but at lease for now he was a real reporter and finder of facts.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:44 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
…and Rachel Maddow’s guest last night, President of front group Americans for Prosperity Tim Phillips describes himself as “just a patient with concerns”.
I said it yesterday but bears a repeat: desperate, unstable, misinformed, religious extremist loners are the prime candidate for recruitment by terrorist groups worldwide AND the Republic Party.
Un-employment has slowed, the stock market and housing markets are improving. Troop wind-downs are underway in Iraq with a renewed focus on the true al queda in Afghanistan/Pakistan, economists are agreeing that the stimulus is working. Our image has dramatically improved worldwide. President Clinton secured the release of two female reporters being held in N. Korea and all these Clown Hallbaggers can scream is, “I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!” Well guess what you mob of deluded sheep, you had it your way for eight years and it almost destroyed this Nation. If the last eight years is what you want back then go Cheney yourselves dry! You are a miniscule, yet seriously dangerous fringe of our society and will be in a tiny minority for at least a generation. Suck it up and GET A LIFE!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:45 amMr.Bungle says: The horrifying part is that 50% of Dems agree with that 76%. What the hell?
There are the Think Fast threads where anything goes.
But, I do have to say that this is exactly why we have the situation about which this thread is concerned.
We respect stupid beliefs too much, and are reticent to call people out on them because for some odd reason, religion has been held sacred, even by Science. As a result, stupid believes evolve into other stupid beliefs, and we wind up with a demographic of people who reject reality and substitute their own…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:45 amI’m not sure it’s all good. Remember when Kerry wouldn’t dignify the swiftboaters with a direct response or denial because he believed in the intelligence of the american voter? It didn’t work out too well for him.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:46 amaceomalley7
how about a link to back up your lie. Oh yeah…..
August 7th, 2009 at 10:46 amWhat’s this?!!? Responsible journalists doing their job???! Way to go NBC Affiliate! The MSM must keep exposing these lying Rethuglicans.
Thanks for posting this story TP – it’s made my morning. These Rethuglicans are immoral and the very symbol of what pure evil is all about.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:47 amIt’s easy to prove. It’s been proven. This is just an example. Suck it up. She lied and got caught in her lie. No biggie for the right, it happens all the time, right?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:48 amHow come we still call them Mr. President after they are no longer president. Should we accept CP premise that they are just dads after their terms end?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:50 amCP – This woman is not ‘just a mom’ – She’s a bald face LIAR!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:51 amWhy didn’t she mention her prior role in the Rethuglican Party??!
It’s so odd that these same people weren’t and aren’t a bit concerned about the billions of dollors funneled toward killing with bombs and military, but they’re violently scared of the implications of the possibility of a chaance that anything the government does will result in the worst case.
How many of these ‘protesters’ call themselves ‘pro-life’? My guess is they all do, but not on this issue.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:51 amCP says
August 7th, 2009 at 10:38 am
She’s just a mom. Her work history ends last year with the Republican party.
Is she under any obligation to tell her work history during these meetings?
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It’s possible Ms. Blish truly is no longer associated with the Republican Party in any way and really is “just a mom”.
Just as it’s possible that former POTUS Bill Clinton is “just a private citizen” with no association with politics whatsoever and took it upon himself to go talk with the North Koreans on a lark. Yes, technically he’s a private citizen these days. But his trip to North Korea was a political mission, performed at the request of political officials.
If Heather Blish had merely been a registered Republican and no longer was, that’s one thing. But she was an officer of the local GOP organization until very recently, and this should have been disclosed. Just as if she had been an executive with a health insurance company or any other entity that would suggest a less-than-objective bias.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:51 amCP says:
Is she under any obligation to tell her work history during these meetings?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:38 am
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No. She’s allowed to lie all she wants. That’s just a Republican being a Republican.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:52 amPilotshark – unfortunately Sanchez is only on at 3:00 EST, and not at 7:00, like Lou Dobbs, where he’d actually be seen.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:54 amI say again: there are NO decent Republicans.
If I’m wrong, and I don’t believe I am – SHOW ME DIFFERENT.
Stand up for decency and condemn these people for what they are: thugs attempting to terrorize their fellow citizens and create mob rule.
STAND UP, DECENT REPUBLICANS, AND CONDEMN THIS ANARCHY.
If you don’t, well…you’re one of them, aren’t you?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:54 amI just googled “Republican Party of Kewaunee County” and there she was on page 2. A link to her linkedin page. Wanna know what her specialties are?
She specializes in marketing and branding. Also, comprehensive internet strategies.
Hmmm… just a mom.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 amFred, I think you’ve uncovered the underlying premise behind CP’s objection:
Republicans are accustomed to excusing much bigger and more overt lies than this in service of their cause. So a lie of omission, to a right-winger, seems like full disclosure.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:04 amCP says
She’s just a mom. Her work history ends last year with the Republican party.
Is she under any obligation to tell her work history during these meetings?
Right on, CP!! She IS “just a mom”, and nothing more. That’s where she belongs, anyway — taking care of the children and working on having more.
Her work history that ended last year clearly and without doubt PROVES that she is no longer a part of the Republican party. She certainly cannot still hold to any republican ideology or loyalty that she MAY have once held, because she left those important republican political jobs. Clearly she left those jobs because she did not want to be a republican any longer. Now she is just an average citizen with no partizan agenda and she makes up her mind on political matters based entirely on her own judgement not influenced by any party ideology or strategy.
And besides, every mom I know personally has the same work history — they have all been high-ranking local political officials, and they really just did it to help their communities and were not deeply seated in partizan ideology when they did so. Just plain old moms, doing political work out of community welfare (but not communist or community organizers or anything like that).
What’s so hard to understand about that?
People’s histories, and espescially their work histories don’t matter.
Sotomyer got the job because she, too, is just a mom, and no one looked at her history to try to deny her that.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:04 amParty affiliation is loose in most states, but I don’t think most people would consider that you “left” a party until you actively affiliated yourself with another party. In short, a bald faced lie.
That alone should be enough to figure out most likely party affiliation. Are you ashamed to be identified with the organization you represent? Definitely Republican. These people should wear cloaks and hoods.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:05 amNicely done, alpuz3.
“Just a mom”…
Hey, who’s up for a new catch-phrase?
August 7th, 2009 at 11:05 amCP says:
There is no evidence to suggest that she is not “just a mom from a few blocks away” and it is clear by the link supplied in the report that she left the party, if in fact you are goign to try and use her past work history against her, which seems to be the case here.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:44 am
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Right. Except for all the evidence that suggests that she is indeed not “just a mom from a few blocks away.” The fact that she is a former high-ranking local party official is in fact pretty solid evidence that she is still affiliated with the party, if informally.
Perhaps your definition of “evidence” is different from the rest of the world.
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One word for this: Busted.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:10 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Republicans depend on the ignorance and cowardice of their base
They know how easy it is to lie to gullible people like these and have them believe it.
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aaronk says:
No conservative that I know is “afraid of the debate”, but right now there is no conservative representation in Washington to instigate a true debate, so the public has to speak up.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
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Um, the public did speak up. They did it in the last two elections, which is WHY there’s not much conservative representation in Washington.
What part of “democracy” do you idiots not understand?
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aceomalley7 says:
#51 here’s your link – seeing is believing…
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/tea-party-protesters-attacked-1-man.html
August 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
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Good. I’m glad the guy was attacked. You reap what you sow.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:16 amweak sauce aceomalley7. You link to a blog that has this headline and you want to present it as credible evidence:
bloggers can say anything as you have already proven.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:18 amaaronk says:
I think what you clearly have is people fed up with the government running rough shot over their rights. No conservative that I know is “afraid of the debate”, but right now there is no conservative representation in Washington to instigate a true debate, so the public has to speak up. We have had 3 major bills rushed through without even reading most of them, and clearly without a debate.
No kidding. And those filthy democrats aren’t even allowing a conservative voice to be heard in debate. They are just bullrushing everything they want right on through and leavign conservatives out of all dialogue.
Since the debate does not exist in Washington, it is up to the people to bring the debate, and, by golly, that is what they are doing. Debate begins with forcing the opposition to listen, and if that means being loud and obnoxious, then so be it. If it means a little violence, then so be it. Because debate is not possible — the democrats simply do not allow anyone at all to debate them. The town hall meeting debators for the republican side have to physically wrestle the mic to get to have their say — they are never ever called on. So here’s to debate, which must begin by intimidating the opposition into listening, and if intimidation and obstruction do not work, then the only other possible civil recourse is violence.
How dare all those politicians rush through those bills and don’t read them. what are they paid for, anyway? well, the republicans don’t ever get copies to read or invited to debate the bills or anything, so of course that is how it is.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:18 amunbelievable says:
Pilotshark – unfortunately Sanchez is only on at 3:00 EST, and not at 7:00, like Lou Dobbs, where he’d actually be seen.
Yes to sad that it couldn’t be the other way around.
But at lease we can enjoy this good reporting as it is a TGIF!! smiles yea
and its been a good week. fighting the good fight.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:18 amThanks, Ralph. You’re not going to believe this but apparently she’s a…
wait for it…
Teabagger.
Says so right there on her twitter page.
oh boy..
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aceomalley7 says:
#51 here’s your link – seeing is believing…
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/tea-party-protesters-attacked-1-man.html
hey… is that guy related to that mental patient who wrote “BO” backwards on her face and claimed to be attacked?
Just asking.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:20 amaaronk says:
These are conservatives who have had enough of liberals ruining the country.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
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You do make a good point. Conservatives have shown over the last eight years that they’re MUCH better at ruining the country.
Well, too bad. It’s our turn now.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:21 amaaronk:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 amWhich rights do you feel have been run “rough shot” over. Thanks…
Welp, as of March 12th this Mom has been posting at rightsideofwisconsin.com.
Here ya go… she’s not a Republican?
http://rightsideofwisconsin.com/author/heatherblish/
She’s all over the freakin’ internet. Ouch.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:25 amaceomalley7 says:
You’re glad he was attacked by thugs for selling flags outside the meeting??? Free speech???
August 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am
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Yup. This violence is the direct result of the teabagger tactics. He and his fellow teabaggers have been working for months to incite violence, and they finally got it. The man got exactly what he wanted, and thus what he deserved.
Congratulations!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:25 amWe have had 3 major bills rushed through without even reading most of them, and clearly without a debate.
You’re referring to THE PATRIOT ACT, right?
August 7th, 2009 at 11:26 amSince that oddball Sarah Palin quit her job she too is just a mom I suppose but certainly not a MILF…
August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 amHeather was/is a blogger for THE Right Side of Wisconsin.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Limbaugh, Beck, and their ilk insist that it is simply patriotic Americans exercising their right to demonstrate and express their opinions.
Nobody is trying to deny anybody’s right to protest. But we do object to the attempt to stifle rational discussion and an opportunity for a civil exchange of ideas.
If you want to stay outside the town hall facilities and rant to your heart’s content, no problem. But when you walk through the doors, you will be expected to wait your turn, present your views and questions in a mature, respectful manner, and then give the presenter a chance to reply.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 amAfter six months?
yeah, well, we knew we couldn’t count on much patience from you folks.
After all, that’s a skill that doesn’t usually begin to develop until the ninth or tenth year of life. Most of you guys haven’t demonstrated psychosocial development to that level.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 amDoes anyone have a picture of that lying terrorist cow?
We need to run her picture to remind us of what sort of threat is out there for our nation.
By the way, Lou Dobbs is a moron.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 amSarah Palin is “just a mom” now too.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 amGood point, dbadass.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 amHah! I guess we’re all on the same page about Sarah Palin as an example!!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:33 am:)
That’s because you lost all representation in the elections. It’s called democracy.
roughshod. Exactly who is stopping these people from rioting? Funny but as usual, not true.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:33 am***
eye witness accounts from st. louis.
sorry ace, your propaganda doesn’t work here.
nice try.
(gateway pundit?)
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 11:37 amaceomalley7 says
August 7th, 2009 at 10:41 am
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I had not heard of the incident you mention, so I cannot comment on it specifically. But in general, violence is almost always wrong, and I condemn it no matter who does it.
However, we’re talking about a well-organized (astroturf) bunch of people who have made it their mission to make noise, disrupt, and shut down town hall meetings — anything they can to keep a pro-healthcare reform message from reaching the public. All at the direction of their well-funded health insurance industry masters.
They are creating an optimum petri dish for violence to breed. Provoking violence in order for them to claim victimhood is one of their objectives.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am* * *
btw, check out the lady in the black cowboy hat.
she’s “just a mom”.
:)
August 7th, 2009 at 11:38 amHer poorly used Twitter page. Most recent link it to a tea bagging site. http://twitter.com/heatherblish
August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 amI looks like she fancies herself as some kind of consultant. I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t want her for that role.
maybe it should be called the “WATB Revolt”?
August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am***
aaronk,
you need to go back to school.
losing an election is not tyranny,
it’s democracy.
*
there are no true conservatives in washington
because hate is not a viable policy issue anymore
and you don’t know how to win a majority of votes.
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you’re not nice people.
:|
August 7th, 2009 at 11:45 amBeautifully, succinctly said, joe cantwell.
And in such appealing verse form too!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:55 amAccording to HuffPo, some unions are organizing to take on the teabaggers.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:56 amIf it were not for lies and distortions the GOP would never have anything to say. Stop and think about it. When have they ever offered an alternative solution to anything? They are disgusting illiterates who hate people with brown skin and anything that seems to prove them wrong. They will lie, cheat and steal to avoid change.
We, the Democratic majority, should bypass these forums by using technology, e.g., teleconferencing that could screen out wingnuts.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pmUnfortunately I have to agree with commenter #102. The Republican party has degenerated into nothing more than an angry white mob, or as I like to call them the “angry enfranchised”. They are pissed at…well…everything. But, at the bottom of all that anger are two facts that are going up their assess sideways; Americans elected as president, by a near landslide, a man who is liberal AND black. This is the core of their discontent, nothing more, nothing less. They are beneath contempt and unworthy of living in this or any other democracy.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pmThe way to screen the wingnuts out of these town hall meetings is to have id checks at the door so that only people from the congressman’s district will be allowed in to the meeting. This would keep out all of the astroturf protesters. They can’t very well complain about being denied freedom of speech since they have no connection to the congressman who is trying to talk to his constituents.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmSomeone said that maybe making these peoples tires unable to hold air would be a good thing.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pmLet’s see…
stock market on the way up – better than in years…
unemployment finally edging down – better than in years…
pirates dispatched, hostages rescued…
yep
sounds like we’re really ruining the country.
(now pack up your bunched panties and go find a corner to sit quietly in while the rest of this mess gets fixed, you WATB righty spoil-sports)
August 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pmHey! Whatever happened to Islamofascism?
You know, how we all had to pull together because Radical Islam is worse than the Nazis and the Commies combined?
Criticizing the President in time of war?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pmtom baker,
you’re so right.
Let’s not forget children health care restored.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:02 pmCollege loans restored.
Our international reputation restored.
I believe that it is certain that the wingnuts have not accepted the results of the election last year and the fact we the people in the majority elected a black man to be the leader of this nation for the next eight years. What makes it worse for them is that he is more intelligent than anyone in their party and he is doing so much better than their beloved W did on everything.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pmjoe cantwell says:
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“aaronk,
you need to go back to school.
losing an election is not tyranny,
it’s democracy.
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there are no true conservatives in washington
because hate is not a viable policy issue anymore
and you don’t know how to win a majority of votes.
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you’re not nice people.”
Haha….look throughout this thread and tell me who the “mean people” are? Did I call a protestor a “whore”? IN another thread on this site someone said we should taze all of the Republican protestors.
But anyway, I would like to have a civil discussion with everyone on here if they are interested. If so, please answer this question. What is “mean” or “not nice” about true conservative values, and I’m not talking about Republicans, Democrats, Moderates, indepdendants, or any other LABEL….and certainly not George W. Bush. I’m talking about conservative values.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pmtombaker says:
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“Let’s see…
stock market on the way up – better than in years…
unemployment finally edging down – better than in years…
pirates dispatched, hostages rescued…
yep
sounds like we’re really ruining the country.
(now pack up your bunched panties and go find a corner to sit quietly in while the rest of this mess gets fixed, you WATB righty spoil-sports)”
Tom, unemployment isn’t “better than it has been in years”…it is merely .1% better than it was last month….still at levels higher than any period since Carter. Same with the stock market….it was $14,000 under Bush, so it is almost 50% lower than that still. I am happy to see it start to rise, but “prosperous” it is not. Kudos on the pirate rescue…that was a good decision by the administration.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pmaaronk says:
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I think what you clearly have is people fed up with the government running rough shot over their rights. No conservative that I know is “afraid of the debate”, but right now there is no conservative representation in Washington to instigate a true debate, so the public has to speak up. We have had 3 major bills rushed through without even reading most of them, and clearly without a debate.
Right, that’s why the conservatives are trying to shout down those who actually want to participate legitimately…oh that’s how they debate?
So Congress didn’t read the bills during the Bush administration which insisted that they be shoved down our throats quickly…where was your outrage then?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pmaaronk says:
I’m talking about conservative values.
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Name a wingnut administration in the past forty years that did not run a deficit and was fiscally conservative, Sparky. Fiscal responsibility is a pipe dream wingnuts bring out after they lose elections. It is not on their resume as an accomplishment. Raygun ran a huge deficit for the time in history, Daddy Bush ran a deficit and you all know the history of the Shrub. Ronnie and Daddy also raised taxes because their economic philosophy failed. Conservative is a pipedream for liars and little minds.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pmThese Town Hall Meeting disrupters are hired and paid operatives of the Republican Party (with money from the insurance company’s lobbyests), just like the ones who stormed the re-count offices in the Florida 2000 castrophe.
As Politically Incorrect as it may be, any person admitted to these Meetings should be REQUIRED to provide a PHOTO ID that they are, indeed, FROM THE REPRESENTED DISTRICT.
I have also read, Union Members are going to be brought in to keep order. I whole-heartedly approve. Put a dozen or so truckers in the audience. They’ll keep the peace!!!!!
DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES.
THESE STAKES ARE AS HIGH AS THEY GET. LIFE AND DEATH!!!
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE GOT TO START FIGHTING BACK.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pmaaronk says:
Same with the stock market….it was $14,000 under Bush, so it is almost 50% lower than that still.
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Henry Paulson/W Bush TARP September 18, 2008
Obama elected President November 8, 2008.
Check the actual change in unemployment since inauguration on January 20, 2009 and give proper credit for failure to W.
http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pmaaron, I may be biased here but I see conservative values as unbridled greed. Everything they do is to benefit the haves and haves more as Bush so famously described his base. What do they have to offer besides tax cuts skewed towards the extremely wealthy and the status quo of the culture of denial that the health insurance companies have wrought upon the American people…
I realize I as a Liberal and Progressive may be biased here, so it is up to you as a conservative to define conservatism.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pmUCSBKitty says:
aaron, I may be biased here but I see conservative values as unbridled greed.
You are correct. The conservatives who talk about a free market believe that the market will bring about competition and that abuses will be taken care of the market. Of course, that is not true because we had such a free market in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. The free market did nothing to correct abuses so laws had to be passed for safety, child labor, etc. These conservatives are ignoring our past history.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pmThe “just a mom” statement was a lie to cover her political associations, but doesn’t it also say “My children are insured, to hell with yours.”
August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pmYeah, she’s just a mom, all right — a MOMZER, that is.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pmWhat is fascinating to observe is how LATE in coming, if at all, to this issue the major networks and media are. Why isn’t this information being more widely disseminated? Maybe we should just send a box of BROWN SHIRTS to the Republican Party headquarters so their operatives can show their true ‘colors’. This is not different from the W days and even the 2000 Florida election. W, whose motto was, “don’t confuse me with the facts. I have my opinions.”
August 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pmThe Democratic Congressman should invite those registered in the precinct or district to a teleconference that can be monitored and controlled via technology. Wingnuts do not understand technology.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm***
“What is “mean” or “not nice” about true conservative values, and I’m not talking about Republicans, Democrats, Moderates, indepdendants, or any other LABEL….and certainly not George W. Bush. I’m talking about conservative values.”
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conservatives and their values.
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from tpm:
Vitter Responds To Voinovich: I’m For “Core Conservative Values,” Not For Straying From Them
By Eric Kleefeld – July 29, 2009, 12:48PM
Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) is responding sternly to Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH), who blamed Southerners for dragging the Republican Party’s fortunes down.
“I’m on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values,” Vitter told the Washington Times. “There are a lot of us from the South who hold those value, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that’s why we performed so badly in the national elections.”
As for Voinovich, Vitter said: “He’s a moderate, really wishy-washy.”
Speaking of conservatives who have strayed from core values…David Vitter was publicly identified as a former client of prostitutes, and admitted in 2007 to an unspecified “serious sin.” The Washington Times article did not mention anything about the D.C. Madam scandal.
Late Update: Louisiana Democratic Party spokesman Kevin Franck e-mailed us a fun comment. “Last time I checked, you don’t find core Southern values in the places David Vitter has been found,” said Franck. “If David Vitter can lead his party back to their conservative values, maybe Larry Craig can give them tips on bathroom etiquette and Mark Sanford can recommend a really good restaurant in Buenos Aires.”
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so arronk you go ahead and “hike the appalachian trail”,
if that’s your idea of “values”.
the rest of us will stay home and work to make
this a better country.
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August 7th, 2009 at 6:22 pmhike the appalachian trail…
I’ll never get sick of that one.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pmWhy do Republicans hate democracy so much?
August 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pmI am appalled that anyone would find the comment that Glenn Beck should be castrated acceptable, but there is such outcry against a woman stating her opinion on Health Care Reform, whether or not she is still affiliated with a political party or not. Why is it ok for Black Panthers to intimidate voters at the voting booths, but a group of concerned citizens are not supposed to speak up at a Town Hall meeting, where supposedly, the purpose is to hear what the public has to say. Too bad if it wasn’t what the officials wanted to hear. Why do you have to resort to name calling, such as “wingnuts”? And why do you think Republicans hate the President because of his skin color? Have you seen how many black Republicans there are? Or how many black Democrats there are that do not agree with the President’s ideas? Why can’t we have a real debate with polite, thoughtful comments?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pmOh gee whiz, golly, darn! Pass the hairshirt—to someone else. I ain’t wearing it.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pmI know what kind of “Mom” that “she” is: A MOTHER F**K*R!!!
August 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI guess most of you just don’t get it “She left the republican party a year ago!!” She is thinking on her own! Kind of amazing I know, maybe some of you should try it.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:58 amAs a Republican I find this sort of behavior totally reprehensible. These “planned” disruptions made to appear so spontaneous are silly. All this push to get people out and then to have a Republican operative who even lies about her Republican ties is very embarassing to me. It is like Republicans have no moral authority on the issues so they have to trump up this silly opposition that is so easily identified as fake and staged. It just makes Republicans look dishonest and silly.
August 9th, 2009 at 7:31 pmBoldface liars, paid thugs, hooligans and lowlifes: The new Republican strategy.
August 9th, 2009 at 8:09 pm“UCSBKitty says:
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aaronk says:
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I think what you clearly have is people fed up with the government running rough shot over their rights. No conservative that I know is “afraid of the debate”, but right now there is no conservative representation in Washington to instigate a true debate, so the public has to speak up. We have had 3 major bills rushed through without even reading most of them, and clearly without a debate.
Right, that’s why the conservatives are trying to shout down those who actually want to participate legitimately…oh that’s how they debate?
So Congress didn’t read the bills during the Bush administration which insisted that they be shoved down our throats quickly…where was your outrage then?”
The only major bill that I know of which was “rammed through” without beind read or understood was the Patriot Act, and I was equally outraged by that. Everything isn’t about partisan politics guys. I said I am a conservative, which clearly doesn’t align me with much of GW’s policies.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm“kasinca says:
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I’m talking about conservative values.
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Name a wingnut administration in the past forty years that did not run a deficit and was fiscally conservative, Sparky. Fiscal responsibility is a pipe dream wingnuts bring out after they lose elections. It is not on their resume as an accomplishment. Raygun ran a huge deficit for the time in history, Daddy Bush ran a deficit and you all know the history of the Shrub. Ronnie and Daddy also raised taxes because their economic philosophy failed. Conservative is a pipedream for liars and little minds.”
Back to the insults. Anyway, capitalism and conseverative economic values built this country into a world leader in record time, so would hardly call it a pipe dream. It is true that we haven’t had responsible leaders in quite some time, mostly because they realize now how easy it is to purchase votes from special interest groups. This happens whether you have an R or a D in front of your name at the national level. When I see the hatred and party bickering on this site, it tells me that we are just further feeding that system.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm“chiroptera toasterhead says:
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aaronk says:
These are conservatives who have had enough of liberals ruining the country.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
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You do make a good point. Conservatives have shown over the last eight years that they’re MUCH better at ruining the country.
Well, too bad. It’s our turn now.”
There have been on coservatives running the country for the last 8 years….that’s what I am trying to get through here. It isn’t or shouldn’t be about R vs. D…”our turn now”….that is just sill partisan politics which plays right into the hands of the idiots that continue to hurt our children’s & grandchildren’s futures.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:22 pm“kasinca says:
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aaronk says:
Same with the stock market….it was $14,000 under Bush, so it is almost 50% lower than that still.
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Henry Paulson/W Bush TARP September 18, 2008
Obama elected President November 8, 2008.
Check the actual change in unemployment since inauguration on January 20, 2009 and give proper credit for failure to W.
http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm”
I’m very familiar with your chart, and oddly enough you see unemployment start to rise after democrats took control of the Congress
August 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pm“UCSBKitty says:
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aaron, I may be biased here but I see conservative values as unbridled greed. Everything they do is to benefit the haves and haves more as Bush so famously described his base. What do they have to offer besides tax cuts skewed towards the extremely wealthy and the status quo of the culture of denial that the health insurance companies have wrought upon the American people…
I realize I as a Liberal and Progressive may be biased here, so it is up to you as a conservative to define conservatism.”
I appreciate your honesty kitty. Let me 1st address your comment regarding tax cuts skewed to the extremely wealthy. I often have this same discussion with liberal friends of mine, and when I ask the question “what tax cuts are you referring to?”, I can’t find an answer. The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes. The top 5% pay 60% of all taxes. The top 10% pay 71% of all taxes. The top 25% pay 86% of all taxes, and the top 50% pay 97% OF ALL TAXES. I don’t know in what world those statistic could lead to a conclusion that the rick get all of the tax breaks.
My definition of conservatism will be somewhat generic unless you ask me to apply it to particular situations, but in general it is the principle of a limited government OF THE PEOPLE, with equal opportunity for all, but no guarantee of equal results. Freedom should reign supreme, with rule of law in place to ensure that those freedoms are protected for all citizens equaly.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pmIt is a sad day for this country when I see people who can’t report the truth and when a mother can’t have the right of freedom of speech. The video even shows how biased the reporter was. In his own video, he showed the truth but everyone seems to see what they want to see.
If she were an operative, wouldn’t have covered her tracks. Well that was good reporting there Sherlock.
There is no longer Democrat or Republican. There is only Right wing and Left wing. Both sides are completely disregarding the Constitution and Bill of Rights for their own personal gain.
Republicans = war and money
Democrats = socialism and communism
Appaerntly there is no longer any democracy in this country and all of our rights have been swept out the door. Germany went through the same type of crisis before WWII and they ended up with a dictator.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:50 pm