Beck agrees with Palin’s ‘death panel’ claim: ‘I believe it to be true.’
Beck agrees with Palin’s ‘death panel’ claim: ‘I believe it to be true.’
Last week, Sarah Palin made the audacious claim that President Obama plans to institute a system of “death panels” where “bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of [people's] ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care.” Even some conservatives rejected Palin’s claim as “crazy.” Today on his radio show, however, Glenn Beck said that he thinks she has a point. ” I believe it to be true, but that’s quite a statement,” said Beck, adding, “I believe she at least should be listened to and you should question, ‘Is it evil?’” Listen here:
On Sunday, former House speaker Newt Gingrich also agreed with Palin.
Portland, Ore.: Is there a point when the media should simply say a politician is wrong? I ask in reference to Sarah Palin's "death panel" comment.Howard Kurtz: Yes, there is a point where the media should say a politician is wrong, and this is the point. There may or may not be a legitimate discussion about the end-of-life counseling in the Obama health plan (which is voluntary, by the way) and whether it is intrusive. It's a long way from that to "death panels," even by the loose rhetorical standards of modern politics. I was surprised that the ex-governor's Facebook comments didn't get much pickup at first, though that is starting to change in the last couple of days. As I noted in this morning's column, wasn't it Sarah Palin who demanded that journalists "quick making things up"?
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Well, no wonder troll activity has been more frantic lately. Their messiah told them that Obama is going to kill retarded people, and they feared for their lives.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:25 pmChyron HR says:
ROFLMAO!!!!
August 10th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThere already is a sort of “death” panel.
It is composed of health insurance execs and flunkies who refuse to pay for certain needed medical procedures and surgeries of their subscribers.
Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are absolute dingalings.
This is the level of discourse we have come to expect from the repiggies on everything. They are utterly worthless garbage. Don’t vote for them, even for local office.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:27 pmBECK: “I believe it to be true…”
The “death panels” are looking for crazy teevee pundits next. Run away, Beck!!!
August 10th, 2009 at 1:27 pmChyron HR says:
Nailed it!
August 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pmHe also believes in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pmp.s. Glenn Beck is a BIGGER moron than Lou Dobbs, and that’s saying A LOT.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pmTrig has an excuse, and we love him, but what excuse does Sarah and this piece of crap Beck have?
August 10th, 2009 at 1:29 pmWell, if Becky believe it to be true, it must be true!
Did he cry, too, also?
Art, just what are you trying to tell me? :-(
PEACE
August 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pmAh, our best litmus test to date:
Is Something Evil?
Does Beck believe it to be true? Then it must be evil.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pmAnswer:
“I believe she at least should be listened to and you should question, ‘Is it evil?”
Question: How do you say absolutely nothing using 16 words?
August 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pmDon’t we already have a for-profit bureaucracy deciding who lives and dies?
The difference is that right now, not only is your health care dollar going to pay for your health care, it also has to pay for the corporate jet.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pmBeck and his ignorant audience believes a lot of stuff that is easily verifiable as false (provided your TV gets more channels than just FOX “news”)
August 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pm“…you should question, ‘Is it evil?’”
This coming from someone who took everything that George W. and Cheney said as gospel truth.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pmInsurance companies have FINANCIAL INCENTIVE to use their already existing “death panels” to decide to let people die.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pmAnd I believe Beck & Palin are ignorant, wanton liars and spreaders of misinformation, and unable or unwilling to engage on honest debate.
I also believe the above statement is a whole lot closer to reality than either one of those two lunatics.
(Interesting that Beck is willing to give Palin’s crazy rants some consideration, but won’t extend the same courtesy to Pres Obama’s health plan -double standards, anyone?)
August 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pmPlease, someone, remove this maniac from the air. Every day he incites violence & spews the most hateful lies. His comments about poisoning Pelosi should be enough to get rid of him. He’s an idiot with some sort of mental disorder, who apparently (according to him) has incestuous desires– and Fox lets him preach to the ignorant & uninformed. Both Fox & Beck will be to blame when one of this dangerous extremist’s sheep injures or kills someone. He’s repugnant.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm“I believe she at least should be listened to and you should question, ‘Is it evil?’”
YES SHE IS.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:33 pm“I believe it to be true, but that’s quite a statement,” said Beck, adding, “I believe she at least should be listened to and you should question, ‘Is it evil?’”
“I believe it to be true, but that’s quite a statement: These Rethuglicans are nucking futz. Is it evil? Only that we allow such loonies to pollute the airwaves….”
Cheers,
August 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pmBelieve…huh…funny thing is, truth does not require belief…to be true…
If you have to believe, rather than know, maybe it’s not truth…
:|
August 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pmWhen I was young, people who said such things were shunned if not institutionalized. How did such raving lunatics become the voice of a party?
August 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pmAnd the winner for Best Picture in the Porno Category is (the envelope please)… Yes. It’s:
“Glenda and Sarahcuda Make a Snuff Flick“
August 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pmyou just have to consider which party is supporting this type of fearmongering and playing to the stupid
August 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm(yawn)
This fails to surprise. If a mediawhore conservative makes a batshit insane statement, there will be at least two others to back him or her up.
Keep up the good work, Beck…you’re doing more to help progressives in this country than the Democratic party.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:42 pmQuick, send the mental health triage team in to help Glenda and Sarahcuda. They seem to be in some distress.
Oh, sorry, it’s just the blind leading the witless again; Glenn rubberstamping something that wild and crazy Sarah said.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pmThis is just PATHETIC! I am so tired of these “people” who just cannot bring themselves to say what it is about PRESIDENT OBAMA–get used to it!–that they so vehemently object to: HE’S BLACK.
That is the sum total of their incoherent, ridiculous protests. Strip away all the fairy tales and you will find that most of these protesters are just absolutely petrified that white people’s time of dominance in this country is coming to an end.
They have an irrational fear of what they must believe is righteous retribution at the hands of the new leader of our country, who, in case you hadn’t noticed, is black. Their twisted, vengeful logic probably goes something like, ‘Well, if I were oppressed as much as black people were in this country, and if I then got power, I’d take out my racial retribution on the whites that I have power over.’ It is a form of “White Guilt” that has become “White Fear.”
PATHETIC.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pmGlenn Beck can “believe” anything he wants. Just as I can “believe” he’s an alien from another planet, sent as an advance scout to Earth to see how easily humans can be brainwashed. Belief doesn’t make something true.
But as to his question, “is it evil?” — yes, “death panels”, as described by Palin and other wingnuts, are evil. However, since the government doesn’t have “death panels”, nor are they even proposed, I’d say the question is about as moot as asking if Beck should be deported back to his planet for lack of a green card.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:46 pmTo be quite honest, I can’t blame people like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck for being afraid of these “death panels.”
They’ve both been brain-dead for years.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pmOf course, Beck also believes that his underwear is magic and that when he dies he will be ruler of his very own planet in the Celestial Kingdom.
And these are beliefs he chose as an adult, not a believe system upon which he was raised.
So much for Becky and rational thought.
PEACE
August 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pmHey Dreckster! The insurance industry is full of “death panels” when they see someone with pre-existing conditions they don’t insure them (unless of course one gets lucky to get employed by a company with a group insurance plan where the insurance company is forced to accept them) or in a more subtle and compassionate way end of life cases.
Why don’t you condemn the insurance industry????
August 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pm26. SiriusMrE sez:…
Could very well be, but since no one can hear anything over their cacaphony, it’s mostly WHITE NOISE.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pmVirtual Pebble says
August 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“Glenda and Sarahcuda Make a Snuff Flick”
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But which one would get snuffed? I believe they’re both on record as being gun enthusiasts.
Sorry — this whole premise is just sick, and in reality, I don’t advocate ANYONE getting snuffed. But I couldn’t resist.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pmVirtual Pebble says:
“Glenda and Sarahcuda Make a Snuff Flick”
Released also under the title FlufferNutter.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pmIts the glenda and sarahcuda show coming to you prerecord live show from beautiful down town loonville across the street from shiny town crazyvill train and rv center. along the god picked me river.
todays topic and guess are non= existing but we can come up with all kinds of S-it and yes we do mean “sure happy its Tuesday”
August 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pmIn another interview, a comic bubble appeared over Palin’s head with the following thought message:
Heavenly VOICE: (over speaker) Death Star will be in range in five minutes.
August 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pmNow that’s the Mormon Whitey in Ben Gleck, questioning whether covering all Americans with Health Insurance is ‘evil’…
August 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pmY’know, I never would’ve thought of having “death panels”, but now that I think aboout it, I think it’s a great idea. First up: the criminally insane. “Palin, is there a Palin in the waiting room? Beck and Gingrich, you’ll be up next.”
August 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pmBecky get off my computer,get off my computer………..!
August 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm***
i’m glad they’re agreeing
with the candidate who was
a major reason they lost their
last presidential campaign.
**
the future’s so bright
i gotta wear shades.
:)
August 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm32. misscoleopteramolly sez:…
Well, of course it’s sick, but they are too. I just thought I’d up the ante on a previous post on another thread, “Glenda and Sarahcuda Make a Porno“, this time to honor their both jumping around on this witless “death panel” notion that Sarahcuda decided to run with.
As has been noted all over the place, well, at least on some threads associated with this issue, insurance companies (and hospitals and clinics, I might add) use what Sarahcuda is calling ‘death panels’ all the time. They’re refered to as triage panels or triage committees, and there are even triage specialists; they’re primarily used when a system, like a trauma unit or emergency room is reaching overload and someone has to start deciding who gets treated first and what is most effective and efficacious. The panels and committees backstop the specialist and serve as an ongoing review.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pmWait a minute! I thought Hemorrhoid had surgery a while back to have that ass_hole removed? What happened?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pmHoward Kurtz: [...] wasn’t it Sarah Palin who demanded that journalists “quick making things up”?
yep… on behalf of the american soldier, no less…
imagine that…
August 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pmLividLib says:
Wait a minute! I thought Hemorrhoid had surgery a while back to have that ass_hole removed? What happened?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
If they completely removed the ass_hole, the Beckster would disappear.
Although, I’m not seeing the problem…
August 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm“Death Panel”?
You stupid Baboon fck.
How about your “joke” about poisoning Nancy Pelosi?
You got permission for that through the “death panel” at Fox News?
Oh, wait. You did. Fox News actually allow you to spew that crap.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pmTP, can we get Beck off the top of the page?
I feel sick…
August 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pmWell, that’s a relief. For a moment there, I was concerned that Beck might actual say something rational.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:13 pmBeck :“I believe it to be true.”
That’s the problem. Believing it don’t make it necessarily so.
“Bush: “I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe – I believe what I believe is right.”
How well did that work for us? Not so good.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pmGlenn Beck:
“What would make her say that there would be a death panel?”
* * *
Let’s see Becky…
What would inspire Sarah to propagate a deliberate lie?
Ignorance?
Attention?
Insanity?
Money?
Or is Sarah just trying prove herself to as a team player,
August 10th, 2009 at 2:17 pmin that quitter, mavericky kind of way.
No Beck, the “Death Panels” are only for lying POS like you…
…better hide under your bed…because they are coming to get you.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:17 pmi believe beck is evil. does that count?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pmIs it me or does every conservative who tries to enter into a substantive debate epically fail everytime?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pmWell, at least every conservative since Bill Buckley died…
August 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pmKURTZ: As I noted in this morning’s column, wasn’t it Sarah Palin who demanded that journalists “quick making things up”?
Actually I believe that Princess Wasilla, in her farewell address, asked that the media honor the troops with this gem:
It’s so important to be accurate when quoting Teh Crazy.
PEACE
August 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pmOf course he believes it. Nothing that spews from this idiot’s face surprises me. Not anymore.
Also – Chyron HR @ Post #1 FTW. Best post I’ve seen in a long time. Freaking hilarious.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pmI just hope that Schiavo woman gives me a thumbs down….
August 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pmHow the hell is that spelled?
and he’s not talk’n garden variety, middle-of-the-road kind of death panel affairs either!
August 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pmno sirree!
he believes them to be racist death panels!
Didn’t Beck also believe in Obama’s re-education camps?
Or do i have him confused with another wingnut?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:34 pmIsn’t the leader of the progressive movement, Mike Malloy, demanding that Beck commit suicide on live TV?
That would solve the problem.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:34 pmIn the conservative mind, history is replete with cases of liberals turning into fascists.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pmI think it would be best if the Death Panel operated like what I think is the way those “reality” viewer input shows work. I don’t have tv to speak of but don’t people vote for contestants to stay or go? If so I think the transition to Death Panel is a natural. No need to build any sort of market base. I Was also thinking “Kill Your Spouse” might be a good premise for a show…
August 10th, 2009 at 2:37 pmocotillo @ 58
Would that be on Pay per View, or Animal Planet?
August 10th, 2009 at 2:40 pmThis is standard operating procedure for Glenn Beck, make something up and then ask “is it evil”? Glenn Beck creates a hypothetical paranoid reality and then rants about it.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pmThe comments on this post are the best yet. I know if I copied them and put them on HuffPost the moderators would have a stroke. They are funny and to the point. Great job guys. Keep it real.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:44 pmBeck is a hypothetical paranoid reality!!
:|
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“Somebody else decides whether or not you can visit the doctor…”
What, do they have security guards at the doctors’ offices pre-screening potential patients?
August 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pmralph the wonder llama says:
Ralph, that originated from Batshit Bachmann, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Becky agreed. He’s all about supporting the GNOP boner builders.
PEACE
August 10th, 2009 at 3:03 pmObserver, did you happen to observe any of the times during the Bush regime when people who disagreed with Bush’s policies were called traitors, unAmerican, etc.? Did you call on conservatives at that time to stop the nasty tone? Or did you just start observing after January 20, 2009?
August 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pmYeah, they also do it here all the time.
Only here, those people are called insurance company bureaucrats, and their first priority is the profits of the company they work for. The undisputed fact that the fewer claims they approve, the greater those profits are at the end of the quarter, I’m sure has nothing to do with the process.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pmYou’re not real big on providing support for your claims, are you?
Who counts as The Left, anyway? Do you have to reach down into the ranks of anonymous bloggers to find these examples (should you choose to provide them)?
Or can you cite actual liberal media figures on mainstream news/opinion/infotainment outlets who made claims comparable to Beck’s claim here?
August 10th, 2009 at 3:08 pmSomebody else decides whether or not you can visit the doctor or receive treatment. They do it in Canada, England, France, et al, all the time.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm—-
WTF are you talking about? I don’t decide whether or not I can visit my doctor and my doctor and insurance decide my treatment and I have a cadillac plan compared to most people. Are you cracked. It is a month at least and he is a block away unless of course it is an emergency. Now he will authorizes any shit I ask that is covered but then again I am insured…
If this isn’t a classic case of projection, who knows what is? Having made the ststement about “making things up,” she’s thereby free to do that herself, as her ‘fans’ will now believe that she, having accused others of making things up, would never do that herself.
Talk about a deluded group of followers…
August 10th, 2009 at 3:12 pmmarwick says
August 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
It’s called health care rationing. Somebody else decides whether or not you can visit the doctor or receive treatment. They do it in Canada, England, France, et al, all the time.
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Yeah, that happens quite a bit with my private insurance company. Just about everything my doctor wants to do as far as testing and treatment has to be pre-approved by somebody at my insurance company who gets a bonus if she can deny me expensive treatment (it’s all about profit, you know). If my doctor wants me to get a stress test or a bone-density test, or a mammogram more frequently than every five years, he has to fight tooth and nail to get permission.
On the other hand, my husband has Medicare. You know, a GOVERNMENT program. We have the same doctor, but the difference is like night and day. There are more procedures for my husband that don’t require pre-approval, and for procedures that do require pre-approval, they’ve never been turned down. As an added bonus, my husband can go to just about any specialist our doctor refers him to, and can even visit specialists without going through the regular doctor first. I, on the other hand, am limited to my insurer’s “preferred network”.
Given the rationing of health care I experience through my private insurer and what my husband experiences through his “government” program, I’ll take the government program any day.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pmHave you ever been in the converted basement of any family that mistook a basement “den” for evidence of makin’ it, you have seen first hand… Death Paneling…
August 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pmHere’s a fukcing death panel for you.
It’s called a tumor board. Most hospitals have them.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pmIf your lung ‘lesion’ only blows a 1.6 on the PET scan, they ‘ask’ you to wait 90 days to have another peeky see.
The doctor is instructed to warn you about the dangers of having ‘unnecessary surgery’ a minimum of ten times.
Then they tell you it’s ‘your choice’ as to have the tumor removed or not.
Anyone who doesn’t ‘choose’ to have the tumor removed immediately is an idiot.
ralph the wonder llama says:
Given that greed and the bottom line are one of the greatest weaknesses of corporations (and mankind), would you rather have some corporate pencil pusher under orders making rationing decisons, particularly if the stocks are down that month, or someone who works in civil service doing the best they can to help folks.
Conservatives are so much about the New Age holy trinity: Me, Myself, and I…
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Stooopid is as stooopid does . .
Do these fools even know the purpose of a person executing a 1-page LIVING WILL?
How is the Obama administration to deal with such IGNORANCE?
We had 8years of the idiot in the White House and now we have to deal with his lemmings . .
My head hurts . .
August 10th, 2009 at 3:22 pmObviously…and probably for quite some time now… Beck and Limbaugh are back into their mind altering vices again.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pmOK, I filled out my living will.
Now I demand an interview with my death panel!
August 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pmContent-free comments
August 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pmBeck plants seeds and then jumps back
“You decide” he claims…
rollaire:
August 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pmWhat’s up with the funky name? Is that private?Have I mentioned the privacy center is lamer than eco-jewelry and Borgen combined…
marwick says:
It’s called health care rationing. Somebody else decides whether or not you can visit the doctor or receive treatment.
August 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Um yeah, that never happens here, does it?
No American has ever had to wait 2 or 3 months to see a doctor, and no American has ever had an insurance company tell them they would not pay for much-needed testing or treatment.
F uck off, marwick. You’re too stupid to breathe.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:31 pmBeck, Palin, Gingrich & Limbaugh agree on death panels. I believe they are the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:32 pmdbadass, my suspicion is that it is a subliminal combination of rolex and millionaire, but it could also be a juxtaposition of rolling in a pigsty and gasping for aire.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:32 pmpags2, wouldn’t that more appropriately be the four horse’s asses of the hypocrisy?
August 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pmSo how is a former radio station shock-jock now suddenly an expert on health care reform?
O/T: passengers were kept on board in their seats all night long in some airplane in Minnesota because the “security screeners had gone home for the night?” How stupid can authorities be? This whole “security” plan is just more GOP fear-mongering. If we would stop acting like imperial corporate pigs in the third world there would be no “terrorism” directed against us. Terrorism is mostly a response to an intolerable situation (foreign occupation, for example)where there is no peaceful protest allowed.
O/T: if President Obama wants to help the Mexican people be free of “drug violence,” he can end our endless stupid vile “war on drug users” by simply decriminalizing plant-based drugs, such as pot, opium and cocaine. In Portugal, they decriminalized all illegal drugs, and the drug use dropped in half. End our stupid arrogance criminalizing of personal drug use. Let freedom ring.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:35 pmWill these imaginary ‘death panels’ receive bonuses for dropping the extremely ill?
Oh wait, that’s what we deal with already… slime.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/17/business/fi-rescind17
August 10th, 2009 at 3:40 pmGlenn, Glenn, Glenn.
You want so badly for someone to take you out to the woodshed for your over-the-top childish tantrums.
You’re throwing such splendid Alaska sized hissy-fit! And yet, your Mummzie Wummzie isn’t there to haul you away by your ear.
Nobody notices you except the other bullies. How sad for you.
You’ve cried – repeatedly. You’ve screamed and shouted. You’ve jumped up and down with your little whittle hands in impotent fists of rage. All this quite literally on the radio and on TV.
What’s next Glenn? Gonna pee your pants live on-set?
Sure! That’ll show ‘em.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pmIs Beck still on Murdoch’s TV station? That’s low. cold.
August 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pmI suspect that conservatives are not against death panels as much as they are against the government running them. Hell, if the government runs them they might let the wrong people die…..white and rich, mostly rich.
(little bit of sarcasm there, but not much)
August 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pmIf Glenn calls anyone a Nazi, he only needs to look at himself in his vanity mirror.
Glenn Beck probably loves the works of Robin Williams and Gene Wilder, but since they’re liberal he can’t attribute his poor improv skits and skills to them.
But he sure has no problems going to the Hollywood blow for inspiration…or to see God!
August 10th, 2009 at 4:05 pmRUCerious says:
OK, I filled out my living will.
Now I demand an interview with my death panel!
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ME TOOOOO! But first we gotta crazy glue the Living Will on our asses otherwise these ‘death panels’ are gonna rip off our belly buttons while we’re still alive . .
It’s gonna hurt real bad, BWAAAAAAAAA . .
August 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pmLiz ~ Heh!! I’ve got a full bottle of crazy ass glue ready to go…
August 10th, 2009 at 4:45 pmIt’s so important to be accurate when quoting Teh Crazy.
Careful, mr cobb gave me an earful of my “bigotry” for using such “careless” mis-spelling…
August 10th, 2009 at 4:54 pmRUCerious says:
pags2, wouldn’t that more appropriately be the four horse’s asses of the hypocrisy?
It’s hard to tell when both ends look the same.
August 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pmWow, those righties are soo good at spreading misinformation. No wonder everyone is p!ssed! This is scary sh!t they are spreading!
August 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pmThe point where the media should have said that a politician is “just wrong” was the 2000 election.
August 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pmAnd since. Miserably rotten and unprofessional MSM. Curses!
August 10th, 2009 at 6:56 pmThis rationing scare is the biggest pile of crapola the right wingers like marlick throw around.
August 10th, 2009 at 7:53 pmThe whole concept of the HMO is to ration your health care so they maximize their profits;
You think the jam packed ER’s aren’t due to the ratioing of health care?
You think dentists not participating in so many insurance plans isn’t a form of rationing? Personally, I think dentists personify the greed in the system.
You think a person who can’t visit rhemutite(s)itis because none of them in the entire state of Florida will take medicaire isn’t being rationed?
Marwick, you don’t know squat about the real ugly world out there,or you’re a rich right-winger. Either way, you’re full of it.
tony and lido
Maybe the government can establish a Death Panel just for Glenn Beck.
August 10th, 2009 at 7:56 pmChyron HR says@1;
August 10th, 2009 at 9:18 pmI just got home from work and read that. I was laughing so hard it took me about 10 minutes to recover. Absolutley PRICELESS!! That captures Beck and everyone in Teabagistan perfectly.
Beck obviously could not make his point on the merits. He had to lie about the Obama plan. Either he is so stupid he could not read a clearly stated plan made by Obama or he deliberately lied about the intent of the Obama plan. Either way, his claims to his faith seems to lack the very foundation of truthfulness. He is a twisted, sad person who is a hate monger.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:00 amOne thing for sure, if Beck believes it to be true, you can be sure it’s a lie.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:14 am106. dasm sez:…
I wouldn’t be to sure about that, dasm. There’s a reasonable probability, since it’s Beck’s neuroanatomy we’re talking about, that it might be a mirage or a frackin’ hallucination. Real enough to him to qualify as an actuality, but totally invisible to any other sentient being on the planet, assuming that such exists…
August 11th, 2009 at 1:33 am107. Virtal Pebble sez:…
…any other sentient being on the planet, assuming that such exists
present company on the thread, excepted, of course.
with a further negating exception for you trolls; none of you have demonstrated sentience – the only thing you know is that we know who you are…
August 11th, 2009 at 1:38 amMost conservatives or at least wingnuts do not mind the government running death panels when the government is run by reichwingers like Dumbya Bush and Dickhead Cheney. Who among them cares that many of those taken prisoner in Gitmo and elsewhere just happened to be brown-skinned at the wrong place at the wrong time?
swift says:
August 11th, 2009 at 10:10 amI suspect that conservatives are not against death panels as much as they are against the government running them. Hell, if the government runs them they might let the wrong people die…..white and rich, mostly rich.
(little bit of sarcasm there, but not much)
Today I brought a cat, whom I nearly had euthanized last year, for a periodic post cancer surgery check-up, and he was fortunately given a clean bill of health. However, I started thinking about all the nice cats and dogs killed in pounds–and not necessarily by the most humane means–every year for no other reason than that they were abandoned by human beings who no longer wanted them. And then despite my usually pro-life (not meaning anti-abortion) instincts, I wondered why lower forms of life like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are allowed to live.
August 11th, 2009 at 10:18 amI have lived in Japan, which has a public option. Actually because doctors’ decisions are virtually never questioned, it is rumored that they over-prescribe medicines and recommend unnecessary operations because of the money that will come back to them. I know that I myself was recommended to undergo surgery for a broken bone, which I decided to let heal without such intrsuiveness. Greedy American pharmaceutical companies ought to learn from the Japanese case that the public option doesn’t necessarily lead to lesser profits.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:00 amMoreover, in Japan, people are often hospitalized for some days for minor surgery for which patients in the USA would be released the very same day or next one. In any case, despite the flaws in the system, Japanese women enjoy the highest life expetancy rate in the world, and its men place at number #4
Ok, I guess most people here are Liberals or liberals.
So, I am OK with your comments if you read the bill and considered its consequences–it is Government taking over our healthcare system.
If you haven’t read it then shut-up and read it!
To read it, go here and search for H. R. 3200:
August 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pmhttp://www.loc.gov/index.html
These Rethuglicans are nucking futz. Is it evil?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:14 am