Member of House GOP leadership criticizes conservatives comparing Democrats to Nazis.
Member of House GOP leadership criticizes conservatives comparing Democrats to Nazis.
In the past few weeks, influential conservative talkers like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, as well as some activists at town halls, have ratcheted up their radical rhetoric, repeatedly comparing President Obama and Democrats to Nazis. Though Limbaugh’s comments have been denounced by prominent Jewish groups, Republican leaders have been hesitant to criticize the rhetoric. Yesterday, however, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA), a member of the House Republican leadership, came close to criticizing Limbaugh, though she never mentioned him by name. Instead, McMorris Rodgers denounced the comparisons of Democrats to Nazis at town halls:
“I think the purpose of the town halls is for people to be able to express their views in an orderly and respectful manner, and that needs to take place on both sides,” said McMorris Rodgers, the fifth-ranking Republican in the House.
“I certainly don’t condone violence, I don’t condone calling President Obama Hitler and painting swastikas on signs at town halls,” continued McMorris Rodgers, vice chairwoman of the GOP conference.
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You right wingers stirred up your base. Now that you are not benefiting from the crazy, you try to distance yourself from them.
YOU created this monster. Tough noogies if it eats you.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:54 am“Ms. McMorris Rodgers? This is your boss, Rush. When you say “I certainly don’t condone violence, I don’t condone calling President Obama Hitler and painting swastikas on signs at town halls,”, you need to add ‘which is why those damn liberals better stop doing it’. I expect to see this addition on this evening’s news.”
August 14th, 2009 at 9:56 amMember of House GOP leadership criticizes conservatives comparing Democrats to Nazis.
– - Ahem…Member of House GOP leadership criticizes conservatives who compare Democrats to Nazis.
Geeze.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:57 amOn the other had, we had 8 years of REAL Hitler like rule, under chimpy & 5 deferment Dickhead Cheney
August 14th, 2009 at 10:02 am“So in the future, please switch out “Hitler” for Mussolini, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, or Caligula. Swastikas are to be replaced with the tasteful epithet, “granny-killer”.”
August 14th, 2009 at 10:02 amjust like when they whipped up the teabaggers, now the cancervatives find they can’t control their freaky and are afraid they will begin turning on them like they did to rick perry at the last teabagger circlejerk.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:04 amMore distancing from the hate rhetoric. Are these repugs feeling like the message has gone out and the radical base is sufficiently stirred up? Just a matter of time, now?
These crazy people are “your people”, republicnas. You defend them, you encourage them. If you are REALLY concerned about their behavior and potential behavior, perhaps you should start to make EFFORTS (including spending some of your precious money) to get you crazy base people back into line and acting like civil and responsible citizens of the United States.
A few words saying that you “don’t agree with it” is NOT SUFFICIENT, and neither is that a declarative denouncement of the activity: it is SIMPLY saying that you “don’t agree with it”, which is not close to CONDEMNING it.
Great, you “don’t condone it” — neither do you condemn it.
Republicans: traitors to their country since the Nixon years.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:04 amRodgers (R-WA
There are a lot of progressives in Wa.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:06 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tundra’s mistake is assuming that liberals are as gullible as right wingers.
Her hollow, CYA rhetoric is too little, too late.
But you knew that, you’re just here to bash liberals.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:13 amTundra, it’s phony concern. Plain and simple. Just covering her a$$ for when the real $hit hits the fan.
She’s not fooling any of us. Just because you are gullible don’t mean we are. After all, you though bush was going to usher in a new era of prosperity, right?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 amTundra, saying one doesn’t condone something is not the same thing as condemning it.
PEACE
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 amRep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA), a member of the House Republican leadership.
Like that “came close to criticizing limbaugh”
Guess she did not want to have to kiss rushbo`s ring
August 14th, 2009 at 10:15 amtundra@#9
August 14th, 2009 at 10:16 amso you admit tub-o-lard limpballs and glenda becky are spewing hate speech on public airwaves. now, give me one reason why they should be allowed to continue to broadcast hate speech on public airwaves.
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Fred says;
Actually, chimpy DID usher in a new era of prosperity….for the already filthy rich
August 14th, 2009 at 10:17 amTundra is ignoring the fact that his list accurately describes right wingers.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:17 amOn the sinking Republican ship a few lifeboats are being launched. Maybe moderation has a chance…..maybe not.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:18 amIs Tundra admitting “hate speech” is status quo at town hall meetings?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:18 amTundra says:
The lady urges calm and condemns hate speech
You’re not paying attention. She did not condemn anything — she simply said that SHE does not “condone” this behavior. That is not condemnation. She is simply trying to distance herself from these dangerous radicals for fear that one of them might successfully commit an act of high treason.
Show where she has condemned these people, as opposed to just saying, “I’m not directly involved.”
If you can’t see the difference, it is because you don’t want to.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:19 amTundra, are you “concerned”?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:20 amtundra@15
can you name one progressive talk show host who uses any of those terms to describe republicans on their shows?
off the top of my head i can think of five “conservative” talk show hosts who do it on a regular basis:
tub-o-lar rush
August 14th, 2009 at 10:20 amcrybaby beck
bill o’lielly
midget boy insanity
mikey weenie savage
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tundra needs a waaambulance
someone call whine wun wun
we got another right wing crybaby here
August 14th, 2009 at 10:22 amtundra,
August 14th, 2009 at 10:24 amif you knew anything about the first amendment or, in fact any amendment it’s a right which comes with responsibilities. there are things which are not protected by the first amendment such as intent to incite also known as the “yelling fire in a crowded theater” case.
“Either you condemn it when people on this very site do it as well as when those poor excuse for broadcasters do it. or you are a hypocrit,”
big differences, assclown. i don’t broadcast my views coast to coast on public airwaves.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:24 amTundra, you’re a whiney wimp. Show us where anyone is stopping these people from saying these things.
We actually want you to continue. It makes our case for us.
We just fear the inevitable violence that accompanies disgruntled righties. Something you can’t say about the left.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:25 amThere is a big difference tundra. We are not speaking to thousands or millions of people. We are not sturring them up to the point where they may commit murder. Where there can be no discourse between differing views because the neo-con talking heads have the sheep to the point of violence.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 amThis is too little, too late. This is crap. These guys got their message out. Objective, accomplished. Now we have Granma crying shes going to die! Give me a break!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 amTundra says:
I suppose you condemn anyone that uses any of the following about republicans?
Traitor
KKK
REPUK
Redneck?
Teabagger?
Nazi
Or is it just when a Republican says similar things about a Democrat is it condemned?
I condemn it through personal practice. You will not hear me use those words to describe people, regardless of their affiliation or beliefs.
What words are you planning to give up using?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 amTundra says:
I suppose you condemn anyone that uses any of the following about republicans?
Traitor
KKK
REPUK
Redneck?
Teabagger?
Nazi
Or is it just when a Republican says similar things about a Democrat is it condemned?
actually, I have made no comment about condoning, not condoning, nor condemning speech. Nor am I an elected official. Nor am I an elected official in a prominent leadership position in government.
However, words themselves are not an issue — it is words in the context, manner, and forum in which they are used. Civil discourse is always acceptable, even if the language is heated (however, threats do not constitute “heated language” in this context). Debate is fine, but to debate, one must hold an opposing view with counter proposals. Denial is not debate.
I suppose that you don’t think there is anything wrong with signs calling for the death of Obama and his children? Is that something that you consider “free speech” (as long as it isn’t a republican being threatened)?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:28 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
How’s this, Tundra:
“I certainly don’t condone hate speech. I don’t condone people calling others ‘nazis’ or ‘traitor’ on ThinkProgress.”
Does that work for you?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:30 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Good on Ms. McMorris Rodgers, the fifth-ranking Republican in the House for speaking up. We should reward good behavior.
But, Cathy, don’t expect to rise any higher in the party leadership if you aren’t going to goose-step to the party line.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:30 amawww, tundra needs a tissue
poor little guy
it must suck to be such a weakling
August 14th, 2009 at 10:30 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tundra, get over yourself. Most progressives have been clamoring for legal resolutions to bush and gop crimes.
The right wants mob rule.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:31 ampoor tundra, so think-skinned, so thick skulled
August 14th, 2009 at 10:32 amThe guy with the loaded gun near Obama’s townhall was holding a sign saying the tree of liberty needed watering. This referred to the quote about the blood of tyrants watering the tree.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:33 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
poor tundra, so thin-skined, so thick-skulled
mi tiping suks butt i spel grate!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:33 amSomeone needs to remind the repiggies that dissenters were not even allowed at Bush/Cheney events. People who disagreed with those two crapheads were barred from entry and kept over a mile away.
Now the repiggies take over events everywhere, and still it isn’t enough for those little fascist control freaks.
I am really angry that the Dems show no spine.
Health care is too important to allow a minority rabble to decide.
Screw the repiggies, and screw bipartisanship. It’s a mirage.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:33 amTundra says:
Shame that this “Progressive” blog can’t get people to say the same thing.
A blog does not “get” people to say anything. It is a place for epople to express their views. The “progressive” mindset allows that poeple do have differences in thinking. You seem to suggest that everyone should think exactly alike.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:33 amI’m just astonish that the Repugs have to stoop to such rueful and banal unitarian style political tactics that drive their constituents to completely go insane based on lies, deceit, fear, hate, inclusive, and conspiracy because their policies all “failed.” Give it a couple of days she’ll be singing a different tune if she wants to keep her seat.
Does she really expect us to believe her after Boehner lied about promoting this round of conservative tea-parties gone wild. Wonder what part of the beach Boehner had her on?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:34 amYou are right now comparing us unfairly to the screechers at the town hall meetings and we consider that to be demeaning.
You can’t win this one little fella. The divide is too big.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:34 amtundra,
August 14th, 2009 at 10:34 ami’m still waiting for an example of a prgressive talk show host who caals republicans deragatory names on a regular basis
I condemn anyone who calls for the death/murder of the President and/or his family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I condemn anyone who untruths to stir people up to the point where they want to commit violence.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:35 am* Attention! Attention, please…
paging Brad Johnson…
Brad Johnson – report to the “Leaked memo” thread…
A S A P .
the name of the president of the American Petroleum Institute (API)
needs to be changed to JACK Gerard.
LEO Gerard is actually President of the United Steelworkers of America
and he is a good guy.
FIX IT.
.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:37 ammakete,
i can go one better:
I curse anyone who calls for the death/murder of the President and/or his family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I curse anyone who untruths to stir people up to the point where they want to commit violence, may they develop boils on their asses!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:37 amAh, that old familiar wingnut standby: equating access to the public airwaves with the ability to comment anonymously on a blog.
Yeah, they’re exactly the same.
Thanks for your concern, Tundra.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:37 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tundra says: I suppose you condemn anyone that uses any of the following about republicans?
Traitor:
Bush ignored August 6th PDB
Colin Powell lied to UN in making the case for war. Over 4,000 US soldiers have died because of it.
Dick Cheney blew the cover of CIA NOC and WMD specialist Valerie Plame because her husband Joe Wilson demolished the yellow cake claim Bush used to justify an illegal war.
The Bush administration blew the cover of a British intelligence Al Qaeda mole just to score political points, thus forcing premature arrests, endangering the life of the mole and destroying any chance of further infiltration.
Redneck?
Really Tundra? That’s a term they themselves coined! The fact that is used to mean an ignorant hick is becasue its supported by fact.
Teabagger?
Coined by Republicans too stupid to understand it’s original meaning. They promoted it!
Nazi
Suppressed intellectuals and homesexuals? Republicans do that.
Domestic spying? Bush did that.
Invading other countries? Bush did that.
Torture? Bush/Cheney did that
Arrest without evidence? Bush/Cheney did that.
See it’s not the mere use of bad names that matters, it;s whether they are reasonably and accurately applied.
You idiot.
See, how that works?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:39 amOT, sort of…
Howard Dean is now speaking at Netroots Nation and I wanted to share one part of the Q & A:
Daily Kos is liveblogging the event here.
PEACE
August 14th, 2009 at 10:40 amtundra@52,
August 14th, 2009 at 10:40 amcan you cite one instance where someone was standing around with a sign saying “death to bush, his wife and kids”? and a link would come in handy.
thanks
This is nothing but CYA.
The wingnut turds work up themselves into paranoid hallucinations and the few sane GOPiggies try not to get embarrassed when the frenzy goes out of control.
Example, the birfers.
The dumbest, about 58% of GOPiggies, STILL have doubts about President Obama’s citizenship.
Even mAnn, Billdo, the Baboon Beck, and a few other GOPig clowns DISTANCED themselves from the ridicule, but only after smearing then candidate Obama.
First they stoke up the flames, then they claim they had nothing to do with the mob.
Grow a pair, GOPigs. This is your base. YOU OWN IT.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:41 amTundra appears to have learned something!
Earlier he claimed that the Republican Congresswoman had “condemned” hate speech.
Now he recognizes that “not condoning” is not the same as “condemning”. He must have changed his views.
Either that, or he’s a hypocrite.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:41 amTundra, now go tell your brothers.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 amThe chosen terminology for the Washington Post article about Cheney’s upcoming g*dd*mned f**king lies/memoir is very interesting. From the Think Progress post that so succinctly condenses the WaPo article:
In “informal conversations” with authors, diplomats, policy experts and past colleagues as he prepares his memoir, former Vice President Dick Cheney has “opened a second front” against his “White House partner of eight years, George W. Bush.” Cheney felt “that Bush had gone soft on him” in the second term, one participant said. “Or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney’s advice.”
Hmm. My inner psychologist’s gay-dar is ringing like a dinner bell…It sounds like Little Georgie and Uncle Dick had a rather special sort of relationship. If we can trust these words to be Cheney’s own, it would appear that Dick perhaps thought of himself as the Top Man in a latter-day Spartan mentored sort of war training for his young protege. Those Greeks…
Not that there’s anything wrong with sweaty wrestling before a roaring fire in order to determine whose war policy will win out.
ha ha
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 amDid I say ” just President Obama” ? No, I mean any and all. Can the neo-con talking heads say the same thing? Think not!!! And Bozo, I dont know any good curses nor would I use them. I just know alot of curse words and have been using them alot more lately. LOL.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The people on the edge of the Republican party who are willing to try to stifle the overheated rhetoric of the crazies should be commended. There are unfortunately a paucity of these reasonable people. But if the likes of Beck and Limbaugh continue down this path of demagoguery, we will destroy the two party system in America. The moderates of America are too willing to underestimate the potential for fanatic zealots on the right who have either no understanding of the democratic principles of our government (aside from a twisted comprehension of the second amendment) or who are, like the past administration, simply hell bent on power and believe themselves to be above the law.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 amTundra says:
I suppose that you don’t think there is anything wrong with signs calling for the death of Obama and his children? Is that something that you consider “free speech” (as long as it isn’t a republican being threatened)?
I condemned it in 32, Will you?
As far as I can tell, you are not an elected official, either. This is a blog – a forum for personal opinion. This is not a town hall, nor is it even possible for someone to come on this blog and, by shouting and screaming, drown you out. Nor is it possible for anyone on this blog to cause you one iota of violence, no matter how well armed one is at their keyboard.
Now, you compare that to the people we are talking about — people with hate signs showing up in person where the people they are carrying the hate signs about are speaking. Some of those people with the hate signs are showing up armed. Their speech is not simply a matter of “you teabagger” — they are blatant threats of violence.
Your dissosciation with the differences of these instances is your problem. Not mine.
And on a blog, you can say what you will. Why should I believe you? You SAY here that you condemn these violent protestors, but I have no way in the world of affirming or denying the truth of what you say. Neither do you for any poster here.
I say that I like to eat boiled puppy brains. Am I serious or am I pulling your leg? And — prove it.
You are childish, coming here and DEMANDING that other posters appease your ego by posting words that you DEMAND we post for you. Who do you think you are?
You demands also are not on topic. You are altering the topic to try to discuss what posters here have posted or are willing to post. You ignore that fact that your republican leadership has yet to condemn these activities.
i could give a rat’s @ss about what YOU claim to condemn.
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August 14th, 2009 at 10:43 amYou rock, 5th @ 53!
I find it hilarious that the teabaggers are objecting to being called teabaggers when they were the ones who started calling themselves teabaggers!
Might be one of the few time the Progressives agreed with the WhiteWing!
PEACE
August 14th, 2009 at 10:44 amWhat do we expect from a Party that smeared Grahm Frost and the cute little girl who had the AUDACITY (!!!) to ask Obama a question about Health Care?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:45 amBozo, Tundra has determined that such a list is not needed. Since anonymous commenters here on TP call Republicans derogatory names all the time, that’s all the equivalence he needs.
Apparently, we all have a presence in the debate as powerful as Rush or Beck.
After all, you gotta admit — every once in a while, O’Reilly will quote a random comment as an example of what the left blogosphere is thinking. Funny thing is… it’s always something inflammatory.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:46 amSpencers mom’s link was bad. I think this one works.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:46 amI agree with 5th Estate. There are REAL, very GENUINE American Nazis. They have meetings, websites, newspapers, etc. Ask them if their views are closer to liberals or conservatives. Ask them if they hated Bush as much as they hate Obama. Go on, I dare you.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:47 amTundra says:
I condemn anyone who calls for the death/murder of the President and/or his family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good!
Assuming you mean ANY president and his family.
Your making an a$$ out of yourself and is that a threat?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:47 amThis shows once again that we just can’t trust the repiggies, even the so-called reasonable ones, not that I believe these days that there are any reasonable repiggies around.
Please don’t vote for any repiggie trash in the upcoming elections. They all are in on this bullying. If they weren’t, they would have walked away from the repiggie party by now.
No matter what they may say to reassure you privately, the repiggies buy into the bullying and the racism. It’s in their genes.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:48 amralph, yes, just like I expected when I gave him my question.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:48 amThanks Fred! Sorry about the bad link.
PEACE
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 amSee tundra, hate speech is when a term representative of evil is applied unfairly.
the purpose is not to illuminate the actual nature of the person, but to paint that person in an arbitrarily bad light.
Obama can’t be a Fascist AND a Communist at the same time, but that’s what the Republicans have described him as being.
They’ve also called him a dictator, but he has ‘dictated’ NOTHING. He doesn’t rule by decree. Obama isn’t “The Decider”.
You idiot.
See, how that works?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 amthey hated Bush because he wasn’t right wing ENOUGH (or so they claim)
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 amNice set-up, PLC.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 amFox News, this is so funny. It looks like Glen Beck was for Healthcare before he was agaisnt it.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/14/766625/-Fox-News-Planted-the-Wrong-Plants-and-Glen-Beck,-well-he-maybe-in-need-of-Mental-Healthcare
August 14th, 2009 at 10:52 amWho says TP doesn’t condemn hate speech?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 amRantingTommy says:
Tundra says:
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Who says TP doesn’t condemn hate speech?
Frozen Tundra :)
August 14th, 2009 at 11:00 amCageyCretin says #63
I would give you 10 thumbs up if i could that was a great post. I think even tundra could even understand it. Once again very good post.
And also same for 5TH @53
August 14th, 2009 at 11:00 amIn other words, no-one with any credibility
August 14th, 2009 at 11:02 amFred says
August 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am
There are a lot of progressives in Wa.
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True, but McMorris-Rodgers represents a district in the eastern part of Washington, where the population is far more conservative than it is in the Puget Sound area.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 amRepublicans vote against Sonia Sotomayor reduces Hispanic/Latino support in future elections.
Republicans are quiet about Republican Rush Limbaugh’s statements calling President Obama and Democrats Nazis eliminates the Jewish vote in future elections.
If the Republicans keep this up, they will only have the support of the Beck 9-12’s.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:11 ammisscoleopteramolly @ 81
Fair enough but I’m thinking conservative in Wa is not the same as conservative in Ok.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:18 amthank you, brad.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:21 amOMG! I just had a discussion over coffee and bagels with two of my coworkers – one of which is a HUGE fan of Beck! WHEW! It was a civil discussion but they really BELIEVE what these fools tell them on the teevee and deh rAAdio. It’s ASTOUNDING! I had to tell them not to believe the lies out there about healthcare reform. I had to tell them – Obama’s not going to increase our taxes, he’s not going to take their guns, etc. MY GOODNESS!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:30 amLike it or not the GOP owns this problem. They’ve given Limbaugh and Beck so much power over their base. Now that they can no longer control the situation they’re backing away from it. McMorris Rogers and the rest should’ve came forward and denounced these idiots months ago!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:34 amI wonder how soon she’ll lose her leadership position for defying Rush?
August 14th, 2009 at 11:35 amAn old Truman democrat I worked for once told me: “A republican is nothing but a bigot who would sell his own grandmother’s a** on the street if he thought it would make him a dime.”
I personally have known only one (1) republican who had any sense, but he was also a professor of theoretical physics who was more of a Robert Heinlein kind of republican–intellect combined with conservatism. (kinda hard to believe isn’t it?)
All the other republicans I have known were stubborn, ignorant racists.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:54 amHey, we live in Opposite Land – The True Nazis, Repukes calling Dems Nazis.
They do it just because they are ignorant fools who simply don’t have a clue as to what Nazis are or what fascism is.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pmI was feeling a bit Nazi-ish today and I came up with a “final solution” for these town hall disruptors. Have the cops check everyone’s ID at the door. If you aren’t a town resident and still want to protest, you get transported to a “free speech zone” several blocks from the town hall. Doesn’t that sound nice? Free to shout “fascist” and threaten death to the president to their little hearts content. Of course, nobody gets gassed but that’s what happens when you don’t have qualified Nazi’s running things.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pmI wouldn’t trust Cathy McMorris Rodgers as far as I could throw her. She’s the one always standing with Boney and Cantor when they do their news conferences.
She’s taking heat from her constituents, so she has to say something.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm***
tundra, i got one word for you:
thorazine.
**
º:=)
take it.
. … .
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pmLike liberals didn’t call Bush a Nazi. Liberals thy name is hyocrite.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:14 pmConservativePUNK
Thy name is MORON. You are a stupid punkass troll. Ignorant beyond all belief. Why dont you just STFU and let the adults talk you worthless piece of garbage?
August 15th, 2009 at 10:01 amThank you, Rep. Rogers for having some sanity about not calling the President of the US Hitler, and the use of swastikas by the protesters. This type of name calling is bringing out the crazies, the angry people, and could lead to violence. I abhor violence.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:45 am