Robert Novak passes away.
Robert Novak passes away.
Human Events is reporting that long-time influential conservative columnist Robert Novak has passed away after battling a brain tumor. In a 2004 interview, Novak explained how he would like to be remembered:
I’m seventy-three years old and would like to leave some legacy. Nobody will remember my newspaper columns or television appearances. They won’t remember me for my writing. … I have a Novak scholarship fund in perpetuity, and I am the founder and chair for writing at the University of Illinois. That is how I want to be remembered.
Novak will be remembered for outing the identity of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson in 2005, as part of the Bush administration’s battle to spin the American public on the Iraq war (even though Novak himself was a skeptic of the Iraq war). Last year, Novak said that while he had been thinking “about my life and what I’ve done right and not done right,” he wouldn’t have done anything differently. In 2007, he explained what he envisions heaven to look like: “I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
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See ya.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pmSorry, can’t think of anything nice to say.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pmgood.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pmRest in peace
August 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pmI refuse to speak ill of the dead, no matter how much I have to bite my tongue
August 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pmThe best I can say is that it’s a shame whenever any person dies.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:06 pmYes, Remembered for OUTING A CIA AGENT.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pmAs much as I hated like lack of journalistic and ethical standards as his career progressed, I hope his family the best during this time.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pmKeeps telling self: “respect the dead. respect the dead. respect the dead. respect the dead.”
Wondering why in this case…..
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pmSay hi to the FSM for me!
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pmThere is no justice in this life.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pmThere is no “next” one.
So if this pig-phucquer didn’t suffer here, we missed our chance.
I refuse to speak badly about the dead, either.
All I can say is that it must have been nice to get treatment for a brain tumor.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pmI’m going to a place where there is no money,
so there won’t be any republicans there, either.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pmCondolences to the Novak family.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pmwhat he envisions heaven to look like: “I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
– - In your fresh hell, Bob, that’s ALL there’ll be.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pmNobody will remember my newspaper columns or television appearances. They won’t remember me for my writing. …
You’re right.
My condolences to the family.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm“I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
Yeah, dirt nap time…can’t say I will miss him.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pmCondolences to his family.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pmLast year, Novak said that while he had been thinking “about my life and what I’ve done right and not done right,” he wouldn’t have done anything differently.
I wish people would quit saying that kind of thing. It’s pretty damned obvious that they’re not going to do THAT differently; all they can hope for is to not make the same stupid mistakes again.
I’ve no idea if Novak had a soul and if so, which direction it’s going, but he’s right about one thing. A lot of people are not going to remember his columns and some of us who will probably won’t be speaking positively of them; I certainly won’t.
Hope your Corvette door didn’t hit your butt as you fell out…
August 18th, 2009 at 12:13 pmsympathy for his family and friends…
otherwise, not missed…
glad to have not heard his opinion on this health care debate…
what he’s gone through, he could have weighed in on the correct side…
evidently he didn’t…
Robert Novak, Chicago Sun-Times Columnist, “Prince of Darkness” died Tuesday
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Lynn Sweet
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WASHINGTON–Chicago Sun-Times columnist Robert Novak, one of the nation’s most influential journalists, who relished his “Prince of Darkness” public persona, died at home here early Tuesday morning after a battle with brain cancer.
says all i need to know…
August 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm“But helpless Pieces of the Game He plays
Upon this Checkerboard of Nights and Days;
–Hither and thither moves, and checks, and slays,
And one by one back in the Closet lays”.
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August 18th, 2009 at 12:15 pmNot exactly a classy bunch here.
Hated him for outing Plame, disagreed with his political views, laughed at him for doing a hit and run on an 86yr old last year…but he was dying of brain cancer for a year.
That alone deserves silence/lack of criticism.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:15 pmHe should have died in prison.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pmThoughts and prayers for his loved ones.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pmRespect is earned. Kovacula has earned none from me.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pmSorry about his death. I am also sorry he was not ever repentant for the wrongs that were obvious.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pmSorry he couldn’t find it in himself to apologize to those who’s life’s he ruined.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pmI disagree with Mr. Novak. I’ll long remember is disgusted throw down of his mic and walking off stage in a fit of rage.
That and his involvement in blowing the cover of a secret agent.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pmwhat he envisions heaven to look like: “I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
Based upon which direction I suspect his soul is headed, he will soon be wishing there were blogs to read. His only source of “entertainment” will be listening to Tony SnowJob and Ronnie RayGun complain about the heat.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:23 pmEnnuiDivine says:
But he was dying of brain cancer for a year. That alone deserves silence/lack of criticism.
I think I do understand where you’re coming from, but I disagree. Suffering from a deadly disease, no matter how nasty and awful it is, does not clean the slate regarding whatever evil actions he did while he was alive.
His family deserves our best wishes; his corpse does not.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:23 pmit seems to me he lived his
life like a candle next to breaking wind.
:|
August 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm32. Luis,
Hey, I’m not saying it absolves him of sins. I’m just witholding criticm today. Seeing as how he hasn’t been dead for more than an hour..
August 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pmEnnuiDivine says:
That alone deserves silence/lack of criticism.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
You’re right, of course.
I would add that Valerie Plame Wilson deserved his silence…
August 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pmConservative’s vision of heaven would probably be hell to us.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:30 pmEnnuiDivine says:
Hey, I’m not saying it absolves him of sins. I’m just witholding criticm today. Seeing as how he hasn’t been dead for more than an hour..
Oh, sorry then. I misunderstood you, I thought it meant no more criticism at all.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:30 pmI offer my condolences to his family and friends.
That said, there might just be a Satanic Blog…
August 18th, 2009 at 12:31 pmRest in peace, Mr Novak —
because of your opinion pieces, many now are not resting in peace.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pmRIP
but I doubt that you shall…good luck explaining all of your nasty, bitting, bitter evilness.
Bob, show me some Eunice Kennedy-Shriver “style” from your life? What’s that? Can’t find any?
…I sure hope that you DO get an activist judge…you’re gonna need it.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:35 pmI wonder if he is now meeting some of the former employees of Brewster Jennings.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pmSo glad Novak converted to catholism not too long ago . .
He should be meetin’ up with St. Peter at those ‘pearly gates’ right about N–O–W . .
SAINT PETER: WTF, whadda you crazy, getouttahere, yeah, we know you went to ‘confession’ but it ain’t enough, you’re outta here . .
August 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pmMy condolences to Robert Novak’s family, whom I’m sure will miss him. And I’m sorry Novak died of brain cancer — an awful way to go, no matter who you are. I get no joy from his death.
However, even though he wants to be remembered for his scholarship fund, he will most likely be remembered for his being a shill for Bushco (particularly when selling the war based on lies) and for outing Valerie Plame, putting people’s life in danger, and disrupting intelligence operations in Iran — all purely done to punish a political enemy of Cheney’s.
I hope this is a lesson that can be learned by anybody with concerns about their legacy.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pmFrom the “no great loss” file. Outing a CIA agent during a time of war is treason. And we’re supposed to remember him fondly? Yes, sir…you have one heck of a legacy. Whatever good you may have done in perpetuity, you didn’t do much good while you were on this earth.
My sympathies to those who survive him. Other than that…
(spit)
August 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pmIt’s sad for family and friends when anyone passes. But, it’s not like someone else hasn’t already taken his position as a right wing, ideological propagandist.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pmI find this passing more noteworthy:
Yonhap news agency says former South Korean President Kim Dae-jung has died.
The 85-year-old leader had been hospitalized since last month for pneumonia. Yonhap said he died Tuesday at a Seoul hospital.
Kim served as South Korea’s president from 1998 to 2003. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts at reconciliation with North Korea, including a historic summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in 2000.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pmMy only regret is that he died before doing time for his crimes.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pmAnd the Dow is up 72+ points.
Coincidence?????
August 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pmTreason immediately comes to mind. And that’s about all.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pmPLENTY of republicans where he’s going.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pmNovak said he wouldn’t have done anything differently. This means:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm1) Robert Novak learned absolutely nothing from his life, and
2) Robert Novak died an unrepentant traitor.
Makes me wish that Hell was more than just fiction.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pmIn 2007, he explained what he envisions heaven to look like…
Good thing he has such a vivid imagination because that’s as close he’ll EVER get to the Promise Land.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pmCondolences to his family.
personally, I will always remember him for the traitorous act of outing a CIA agent
August 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pmHe didn’t really die, he has just retreated to the coffin during the daylight hours.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pmto paraphrase bette davis upon hearing her longtime nemesis joan crawford passed away,
“My mother always told me to speak good about the dead. joan crawford is dead. good”.
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backup says:
“If rhetorical questions where a commodity, I’d be a bazillionaire…”
August 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pmHope he liked his legacy: outing a CIA agent, then being a pr*ck about his right to do whatever he wanted.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pmClose. He did it in collusion with the Cheney Administration
August 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pmYou’re kidding, right? Where the fukc have you been? Try doing a little research – it won’t be difficult to find the answerssssssssss
August 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pmbackup says:
“I’m asking because I don’t know. Novak outed Plame. Did he do it in collusion with the Bush administration?”
if you consider scooter libby, first buttboy-in-chief to dickhead cheney part of the bush administration, then yes.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pmThe ONLY thing he will be remembered for is outing Valerie Plame. That will be in the history books.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pmDarn how come it could have not been Rush.
Novak RIP.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pmMy thoughts and prayers go out to the Novak family. May you find peace.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:56 pm” In 2007, he explained what he envisions heaven to look like: “I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
too bad he’s roasting in hell.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pmWith pistol packing crackers being glorified at every town meeting President Obama attends I’m more concerned with his welbeing than Novak’s death.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pmBozo in answering backup said:
if you consider scooter libby, first buttboy-in-chief to dickhead cheney part of the bush administration, then yes.
But, Scooter had 2 titles: in addition to being Cheney’s chief of staff he was also an assistant to the president.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:00 pmseslisohbet,
August 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pmi’ve missed you
Blessings to his family..
August 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pmCondolences to those who will miss him.
Novak made his name off fabrication and dissembling, to further the right wing agenda, that started long before Valarie Plame.
That he died today doesn’t erase his vile legacy.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:05 pmOh father, thou art in heaven, when will Ann Coulter be next.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pmTraitor.
On the very first page of his book, he made no mistake about his acid disdain for Joe Wilson, prior to becoming involved in outing Valerie. I’d have liked it had he died in prison.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pmThe admonition to “not speak ill of the dead” is in reference to the deceased’s inability to defend themselves.
Novak had the time and privilege of media access to defend his treasonous participation in the exposure of Valerie Plame and he took full advantage of it in Op-Eds and in appearances on ‘friendly’ TV networks and shows, by lying and acting the victim.
To speak ill of Novak after his death is simply to speak the truth, but his last actions on this earth were ‘ill’.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pmWhile I will not celebrate the death of any man, I will not weep for this one.
“I’m going to a place where there are no blogs.”
There are so blogs in Hell. Human Events, for example.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pmI guess this brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, “spinning in his grave”.
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If we had “socialized” medicine, he would have died years sooner.
Dam you, Clintons for not getting us Universal coverage, years ago.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pmNovak was a despicable human being. The world will be a better place with him gone.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pmI’m sorry for his family. There are people who, strange as it seems, loved him, and I’m sorry they’re in pain. That’s the best I can say.
As for the place with no blogs, yeah, that’s got to be hell.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:22 pmMy condolences to his family.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI’m sure the moment when he lost control of his car was the horrifying moment when he couldn’t fool himself that they were just headaches any longer. That was the moment for my brother, may he rest in peace.
He was a convert to catholicism, which fortunately does not have a ‘get into heaven free’ card in its theology, so I think he had to think long and hard about the harm he did in his life.
We have no way of knowing whether he turned from the arrogance of power , or whether he justified it to the end–because at the end, I’m also sure he couldn’t speak.
Which is why I say Rest in Peace, Mr. Novak.
Christopher Hitchen’s is always too drunk to know what he is saying.
Joe Wilson was not picked for the mission by his wife. He was picked because he was the once a U.S. Foreign Service official in five African countries, including Niger, Senior Director for African Affairs for the NSA, and Ambassador to Gabon, you moron. He even paid for the trip out of his own pocket.
Novak outed Valerie Plame because Dick Cheney told him to do so. It is as simple as that.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:29 pmbackup says:
I think it makes a big difference whether Novak was acting as a tool of the Bush administration to out Plame as revenge for the Niger story or whether he was acting as a reporter that thought that Plame’s association with the CIA was pertinent to Wilson’s selection.
First you say you don’t know and ask for some information. Then you find one link, to an article by Christopher Hitchens of all people, and post that. This is what really drives me crazy about you, backup: you seem to think that finding one link, to a crazy drunk, is research.
It makes no difference at all because he broke the damn law by outing a CIA agent. Period. It doesn’t matter whether he was serving the Cheney agenda or his own agenda or both. It’s wrong. In any sane world, he would have gone directly to the slammer.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:31 pmWhy not speak ill of a man who caused pain on the living? Death is part of living and his death took too long in coming.
He was a liar and one of the forefathers who torn this nation apart.
Good riddance.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:32 pmGood riddance…
What a relief to never have to hear his crap again…
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P.S. backup, Novak was a hypocrite for outing Robert Hanssen as a source for stories to beat up on Janet Reno because Robert Hanssen was later convicted for Outing CIA agents, something, Novak himself did, but got away with later.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pmP.S. backup, Novak has been exercising ‘poor judgement’ as far back as 1972…It wasn’t a simple oopsie…it was his ideology.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:43 pmIf you don’t get it by now backup, you ain’t never gonna get it. People, stop wasting brain cells trying to make backup understand anything.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Condolences to his family… for being related to him.
Bob? Don’t let the coffin-lid hit you in the ass on the way out.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pmJoliet, IL rejoices over the loss of it’s native son.
The “Prince of Darkness” meets the REAL “Prince of Darkness”.
Say “f*** you” to Reagan for me, Novak.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pmP.S. backup, Novak was involved with right wing publisher Regnery, you remember them? Swift Boaters, unfit for command, those people who drug John Kerry’s name through the mud.
A war hero…a real one.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:50 pmHe endangered the lives of covert operatives working on behalf of the United States; he thought a scoop revealing the identity of a CIA agent was more important than her safety, as well as the safety of countless others. He was a traitor.
That’s quite a legacy.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pmbackup gets it, he just enjoys throwing turd in punchbowls.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pmOnce again backup proves that Republicans cannot connect dots. I wonder what is like going through life without the ability to relate events to one another.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pmGless him! But this guy was acrid.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pmTalk about a paid pawn.
Sad part is there are so many other ready to fill in and take money to learn thier lines.
backup: It’s a simple question. If people are critical of Novak because they are convinced he outed Plame in collusion with Cheney, why do they think that? Where is the proof to justify the criticism?
Novak printed her name and outed her as a CIA operative, which is a violation of law. It doesn’t matter whether he colluded with Cheney, whether he pretended he didn’t know where the information was coming from, or whether he found the information on a piece of toast. It was illegal and he should have been charged, convicted and imprisoned.
What else am I supposed to do? Months of research to come up with the conclusions that placate the sensibilities here?
Where the hell were you in 2003? Or in the intervening years when it was all over the news?
August 18th, 2009 at 1:59 pmHe was like all the other Bush apologists, out there with their drum, beating it loudly…9/11 9/11 9/11, when he wasn’t beating the drum for Bush, He covered his ears and shook his head and droned: lalalalalala.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pmNow I am waiting for Fatbo to keel over.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pmnature truly abhors a vacuum as the vile from his mouth will soon be filled in by another
August 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pmNovak can now answer to the Highest and explain how he leaked the name of a Covert CIA Agent Plame and now she and her family will be in fear for the rest of their lives. Novak also ran over a man and never stopped to help then lied about it. We all have to answer for our sins, most people tried to do better before they meet our Maker but Novak didn’t. Like Judas, Novak sold his soul to Satan.
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Well I never rejoice in deaths but at least pedestrians and bicyclists are a tad safer…
August 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pmTwo government officials have told the FBI that conservative columnist Robert Novak was asked specifically not to publish the name of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame in his now-famous July 14 newspaper column. The two officials told investigators they warned Novak that by naming Plame he might potentially jeopardize her ability to engage in covert work, stymie ongoing intelligence operations, and jeopardize sensitive overseas sources.
Source:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pmThere was a point in Novak’s life where he had to choose between good and evil. Novak chose evil.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pmI just hope the networks don’t pre-empt regular programming to do a review of his life and achievements.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:22 pmNovak should be remembered for his politically-motivated outing of a covert US operative, jeopardizing everyone of her contacts abroad and closing down avenues of intelligence in order to prop up an administration rife with criminality and corruption.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pmDon’t worry Bob, where you’re going it’s hot, but it’s a dry heat…
August 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmTo forgive is divine. RIP, Mr. Novack.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmThey say things come in threes. Limpo,beck.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pmbackup says:
Yes. They shopped her identity around to at least six journalists only Novak reported it
August 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pmbackup,
isn’t the point more that it is simply illegal to out an undercover CIA operative, regardless of your reasoin for doing so?
I can see where your coming from, but Plame was doing undercover work trying to protect her nation from the very WMD that Bush said we needed protection from, and whether it was merely to link her husband to the CIA or not, all he had to say was that Wilson had connections to the CIA which put him in the place to go to Niger and look into the story.
He chose not to do that. He deserves all the criticism he gets.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pmNovak is probably correct, that there are no blogs in heaven. Unfortunately, he will have to face everyone in the afterlife who’s life he ruined, directly or indirectly, and each of them gets to decide an appropriate punishment for him.
Eternity is not fun for evil men.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pmbackup says:
Wilson was NOT a member of the Bush administration. He went on a fact finding mission for the CIA one he was eminintly qualified for. One Plames superiors ASKED her to see if he would be willing to do. The man had been on a similar mission for the CIA to Iraq, he had the contacts. The Bush administration exposed HER in a fit of political pique. Novak was their conduit. It really is that simple. There arent any questions left. Novak carried their water
August 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWon’t speak ill of the dead. But I remember this old saying: What you give on this earth and what you receive when you leave. It is not what people say when you are living but it what people say you are gone. And I’ll leave it as just that.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pmI guess the bar I set for evil is a bit higher than Bob Novak. I do not think he was evil — an a-hole, yes. Evil. No. I would not put him the same category as Hitler, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Sadam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, even Cheney and the Cheney lackeys — Addington, Yoo et al. Those guys, IMHO, are (were) evil. Novak — not so much.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:39 pmBy leaking Plame’s identity, Novak also revealed the name of the CIA front company she used as cover: Brewster Jennings:
” The inadvertent disclosure of the name of a business affiliated with the CIA underscores the potential damage to the agency and its operatives caused by the leak of Plame’s identity. Intelligence officials have said that once Plame’s job as an undercover operative was revealed, other agency secrets could be unraveled and her sources might be compromised or endangered.
A former diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity said yesterday that every foreign intelligence service would run Plame’s name through its databases within hours of its publication to determine if she had visited their country and to reconstruct her activities. ”
Source
I wonder if Plame’s contacts suffered as a result…but you go ahead backup, keep waffling…everyone else lives in the real world
August 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pmWell, rest in peace Robert Novak,
August 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pmThat being said:
YOU don’t have the “final say” on how you will be remembered.
That goes also, for myself.
That goes for us all.
I wish him just rewards in the afterlife, if there is such a thing.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pmIt frightens me to realize that with Novak’s passing, one traitor has died without facing justice. Assuming Obama is not going to start war crimes trials any time soon, eventually other traitors or war criminals from the Bush crime family will also die without facing justice.
As they die, it becomes harder to restore the rule of law.
President Obama, you must start prosecuting war criminals and traitors before it is to late. Once they are dead, so is any hope for America ever returning to a nation of laws.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pmbackup p’wned
August 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pmIt’s too bad he’s dead. I was hoping his suffering would go on forever.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:53 pmMaybe Novak is in Heaven. They say the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and he certainly had none of those.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pmRIP Novak. Dress for the heat.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:59 pmWell, one of those reserved places in hell will now be filled. Can’t wait until the rest are there.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pmbackup cannot understand what you are saying. He doesn’t know why Dick Cheney gave Valerie Plame’s name to Bob Novak. But, he is sure that it wasn’t so that Novak would write a newspaper article outing her in revenge for her husband exposing one of Bush/Cheney’s monterous lies about Iraq.
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backup, novak didn’t do something noble. It was criminal and with political motivation. Some people did get convicted over this.
He is scum, so are you for trying to make him seem like less.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pmI thought you were out…
I know you were p’wned…
August 18th, 2009 at 3:08 pmI guess it is straight to hell for the guy.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm#140,
I know the Energizer Bunny, and backup is no Energizer Bunny!!!
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August 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pmNovak was a bigger traitor than Tim McVie. He certianly caused more damage to our country.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pmjoe. you’re right. I’ll try again. see ya.
pastcaring. I read your links. I’ll think about them.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:19 pmanyways, I’ve got to get back to work:
http://www.freakingnews.com/Energizer-Bunny-Pictures-16734.asp
August 18th, 2009 at 3:21 pm1. Who didn’t know there was something wrong with his brain?
August 18th, 2009 at 3:25 pm2. How does being dead instantly make you a better person …than when you were alive? Don’t speak truth of the dead?
3. If you don’t like the way these things go then stop posting …obituaries.
He was a scumbag when he was alive, him being dead doesn’t change that.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pmNice — I get voted down because I don’t want to pile on a dead guy and brand him evil. Echo chamber much?
August 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pmHistory will remember and judge Novak for his involvement in major political events. Where is the value in posthumous insults and mockery? Wishing ill for others, of which we are all guilty at some point, is a warning sign of a self-righteousness in which we look down our noses and give thanks to whoever or whatever we believe in that we “aren’t like them” (even as others are looking our way and thinking the same thing.) It is ugly and grows quickly, strengthening harmful stereotypes and giving an illusion of acceptability to the politics of division and derision, the very toxin which is crippling our society’s political process. As it becomes more potent it produces the same toxin that drives the vitriol at these town hall meetings, for example. It should have no place in a mature national dialog; or are we going to start holding all our political rallies on the playground next? ;^)
Those who we believe are misguided, who we suspect of being corrupt, and those who we feel have done harm should be challenged, held to account, and if possible reformed, as appropriate; but if we believe in fundamental human dignity and worth then we should act like it. Principles are easy when we only have to apply them in ways we find reassuring and convenient, but how quickly they can be forgotten when they become inconvenient to our egos and challenge us to look beyond the surface and see those we would prefer to hate as being more than just political operatives or other assorted types of “enemies”. I don’t relish the role of wet blanket for this thread, but I felt this needed to be said. I have no desire to judge anyone here, but consider this – how would we feel if Limbaugh and his callers were saying similar things about someone who writes for a site like Think Progress?
August 18th, 2009 at 3:38 pmGood. Too bad it didn’t happen before this despicable bastard had done so much damage. Rot in hell you bastard.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:40 pmtinythinker, hockypucks. The man was a criminal who never came to justice. He committed a hit and run and never came to justice, on and on.
You are the self rightious one.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pmRe: 135, 136:
backup: yours is a ridiculous false analogy.
Consider this one which more on point:
“A former ambassador to an african nation that produces uranium comes back from a trip where he met with contacts in that nation, and has evidence he deems credible that nuclear material was sold to Iran. This ambassador writes up his revelatory evidence as an article for the Washington Times, without first speaking with the Obama administration.
“Joe Biden thinks this guy is a complete a**hole for not speaking with the administration first before dropping this bombshell. He finds out that the CIA sent this guy to africa.
“Biden gets someone on his staff to dig into the guy’s background and finds out that his wife is actually in the CIA.
“So, Biden hates this dick, but can’t refute the guy’s message, so he decides to attack his credibility by suggesting that his CIA-employee wife arranged him to be sent.
“He gets Bob Woodward to write a column denouncing the ambassador’s trip and purported revelations because the whole thing smacks of a nepotistic boondoggle since his wife is a CIA agent.
“Is Bob Woodward a traitor? Discuss.”
There. I fixed your analogy for you.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pmThey do it every day. Where the hell have you been?
Difference is, they lie.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:49 pmFred: My point is – what makes it any better when one side acts like this than the other? Do you honestly think one side is always right or wrong, or that we can reduce whole groups of people, let alone an individual, to a small set of choices or political opinions? I clearly said there is a time and place to challenge and hold people to account for dishonesty and lies. I am talking about something else, something which we can do without, something which can poison religion, politics, and every other social institution. I think we are better and can be better than that, which gives me hope. If you think I am self-righteous for calling us to remember our common humanity, for not judging because we have all wished each other ill, and for knowingly putting myself out there to be party pooper in a thread in which people are having fun pissing on someone’s grave, then I apologize for the mote in my eye.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:58 pmIt has been done and novak contributed to it.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:00 pmlook tinythinker, if you have the time to come here and give us grief over this then I have to assume that you have spent literally years on right wing blogs telling them the same thing, right?
August 18th, 2009 at 4:06 pmtinythinker, do you think you should run over to the right and have a little talk with them about thier behaviour in this thread?
Woman yells ‘Heil Hitler’ to Jewish man praising Israel’s national health care system.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:10 pm“I didn’t attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.” ~Mark Twain
August 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pmbackup says:
Clinton didnt perjure himself. Stop repeating LIES. All lying under oath is NOT perjury.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmI didn’t like the man’s politics, and from what I’ve heard, very much doubt I would have liked him personally. But I send my condolences to his family and friends.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pmFred and anyone else interested:
I was not “giving grief” in my original comment as some kind of antagonism, but out of respect. Respect for the people who post here. Should we only post replies here if we are going with the majority? Of course not. Don’t we criticize contemporary conservatives for not critiquing or questioning “their own”? Just because Novak sunk to a certain level doesn’t mean we have to follow suit, does it? I’m sorry, but I think too much of people, of our society, and of the progressive tradition, to just accept that. So I “said” something. I still think we can find a higher ground. Those who think I am just a fool, or an idiot or whatever are free to ignore my comments and dismiss what I am writing without any further thought or need to be upset.
I wrote what I wrote out of optimism and hope – out of a conviction that we can resist or overcome these ancient vitriolic tendencies that have gone hand in hand with partisan and sectarian issues for millenia. I hope this change will one day spread to all sides of all debates, but I was reading posts and comments here, so here is where I commented (and yes I have in the past posted similar thoughts on forums dominated by extremist fundamentalist conservatives, but that is neither here nor there). Was I wrong to think progressives, liberals, and left-leaning moderates might be open to such hope? Again, I intend inspiration, not offense. I made a point and have further clarified here it thanks to the comments received. Make of it what you can or what you will. I wish everyone well.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pmI heard SATAN is having a “welcome home” party tonight!
August 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pmDon’t you know, he’s not really dead until you put a stake through his heart and cut off his head. Where’s Van Helsing when you really need him?
August 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmbakup,
I don’t know how Bill Clinton got into this, but he was not guilty of either perjury or obstruction of justice. That is why in the Senate trial he was found NOT GUILTY. Do you really think it was possible that he was guilty, yet Republicans voted NOT GUILTY?? That is really an impossibility.
Before his testimony, his defense asked what the prosecution’s definition of “sexual relations” was. Since what he and Monica did was not within that definition—-he could honestly say he did not have sexual relations with her.
A federal judge later ruled that since it was irrelevent to the Paula Jones case—it could not have been perjury nor obstruction of justice, even if he were lying (which he was NOT).
It’s an awful double standard anyway. Reagan and GHW Bush did not have to testify while in office about Iran/Contra. Dubya and Cheney did not have to testify about the 935 recorded lies taking us into the illegal Iraq War—-but get one little blowj0b………
August 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pmCondolences to his family.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pmTo bad Robert “NO-FACTS” Novak didn’t die in prison. While I believe in Freedom of the Press, Mr. “NO-FACTS” should have never allowed his column to be used by Cheney, Libby and Rove as a vehicle to commit TREASON by outing a Covert CIA Agent during War Time. Since his friend and fellow TRAITOR Kerl Rove talked him into committing TREASON, he should have died in prison. In the arms of his cellmate Bubba.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pmtinythinker, of course you have a point in the long run and you don’t have the stench of a concern troll so I concede the point.
It is only that we still have very fresh wounds and the healing has only just started. It will take some time and you will have to be patient.
What you depict is what we all want. We are not there yet.
They are still calling us nazi socialists in public and no one is stopping them. Not that authority should but common, decent people should and they are not.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pmGood Riddance!
He outed an active duty CIA agent against EVERY journalistic mores to further the political agenda of destroying any opposition to I AM NOT A Dick Cheney and his Fascist regime.
Seems to me God decided to judge him early.
Let those who defend his actions await God’s judgment too :)
August 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pmYesterday also saw the death of former President of South Korea, Kim Dae Jung, leader of the pro-democracy movement in his country and Nobel Peace Prize winner. What a contrast between the goodness in his life and the evil done by the Prince of Darkness, Robber No-facts. I will mourn only Mr. Kim.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmAnother person that would have been strangled at birth in a just world.
Dammit, Kissinger, just die, die, die.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:16 pmThere certainly is a lot of energy and spiteful emotions being wasted on some old man who just died . I did not care for Mr. Novak at all. If he ran for dogcatcher I would vote for the grand potentate of the KKK before I voted for him and I’m black. What I will not do is waste my time hating him back for his hating me and loving corruption and lies. It’s unprofitable and no matter what wrong my daddy had ever done before he died, all I wanted when passed away, was some compassion and sympathy. My heart was so terribly broken. With that said, his family has my deepest sympathy.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pmWhile I greatly disagreed and opposed many things that Mr. Novak said, he had my great appreciation for his scholarship. I was not a recipient of it, but I knew some who were able to further their opportunities at our shared alma mater because of his foundation. Of course, I also like to think they took their writing skills on to be his opposite, but that’s neither here nor there. I’m grateful that his money, if not his career, will be well spent by future Illinois graduates.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:59 pmI don’t hate him.
I just detest what he did to get our country into war.
Meanwhile, I wonder if he was ever sad for any of the human lives lost, American and Iraqi, during that immoral war he helped promote.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pmGood flarking riddance to a worthless piece of rubbish.
And no, I’m not sorry for either having or expressing that sentiment.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:32 pmWOW! You people are pure evil! I can understand being born ugly…getting slapped around by a meth maggot mother and drunken boy friend all your pathetic life. I am SOOOOOO glad I am me and not you! Thanks mommy, daddy, and Jesus.
August 19th, 2009 at 1:52 amSlappy,
August 19th, 2009 at 7:13 amI have never responded to you before, but you already lose any argument by accusing everyone here of being ugly and having a meth addict mother. I, for one, am not ugly nor did my late mother indulge in anything stronger than beer and wine. Anyway, I guess you think it is alright to out a CIA agent and endanger all her contacts in various countries. Therefore, I am SOOOOOO glad I am me and not you!
Maybe the conspiracy nuts will say that the CIA whacked him for outing a CIA undercover operative who was doing her job with keeping America safe against nuclear proliferation.
I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories:
1. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK.
2. I believe that Bobby Kennedy was murdered by Sirhan Sirhan.
3. I believe 9-11 was committed by Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda network.
I also believe that Robert Novak’s legacy will be that of outing a CIA operative (Valerie Plame) and should have passed away in prison for treason.
So long Bob.
August 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pmIf there is a Hell, this Bastard belongs there, GOOD Riddance, I hope his last hours were as painful as can be!
August 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pm