Sen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.
Sen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.
Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) appeared on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show today to continue his near daily rants against President Obama. DeMint, who has repeatedly boasted that he will “break” Obama by defeating health care reform, has made a habit of comparing government under Obama to fascism. This time, DeMint told Hewitt that immigrants from Iran tell him that America is going “down the road” to the type of government they had fled from:
DEMINT: And we’ve seen a lot of countries over the years collapse when they’ve gone down the road that we’re going down. Probably the most heart-wrenching experiences I’ve had over the last several days is when naturalized American citizens who have immigrated here from Germany, Iran and other countries, they come up to me and they say why are we doing what so many have fled from? Why don’t Americans see what we’re doing? And I’ve realized that these people who’ve lived under socialist type economies, and totalitarianism, they know where we’re headed if we don’t turn things around.
Listen here:
Rather than making his usual Nazi references, DeMint appeared to slam contemporary Germany as a country lacking freedom and suffering under “totalitarianism.” However, according to research by the Pew Charitable Trusts, Germany actually ranks far above the United States in upward economic mobility.
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REALLY…..how long before they overplay this hand and even some of the frothing at the mouth loons start to tune it out. Thankfully, football season starts in two weeks.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pmThis guy is as stupid as the trolls we get at TP. Does he even believe the idiocy he is spewing
August 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pmIs this the early stages of the next personal attack on Obama — earlier, we heard about his being without a tie is “Iranian” and now we hear that America is going to be remade into Iran
August 20th, 2009 at 9:13 pmAs opposed to the shoot first ask questions later foreign policy experiment of the last 8 years… Give me Obama’s “fascism” any day.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pmAh yes, totalitarian Germany… what?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pmThe government of Iran is a right-wing theocracy.
Fascism has always been a right-wing phenomenon in every country where it’s appeared.
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August 20th, 2009 at 9:16 pmWell, if DeMint and his ilk have their way, then yes.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:18 pmSen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.
– - Double-down and keep digging, Jimmy. You keep this up and you may yet succeed Jefferson Davis as Rebel-In-Chief.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:18 pmDeMint just keeps feeding the fringe with lies and nonsense. It’s the same BS: Obama is a Nazi or a fascist or a socialist! DeMint doesn’t know what in hell he’s talking about! I wonder if he can spell the word totalitarianism.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pmWhy doesn’t DeMint see what he and his ilk are doing to this country? If what these people from other countries are telling him is true, they are referring to him and the rest of the rightist wackos, who are attempting to merge church and state into a Talibamerica with a leadership who would tell us all what to think. And if the majority happened to elect a leader not to their liking, they would show up at his events fully armed. If we are headed to becoming like Iran, it is largely his and his party’s doing. The GOP would rather ruin the country than cooperate with Obama and come up with solutions to the huge problems Bush created. What children they are!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pmWhat an absolute Republikan horses ass! He obviously hasn’t a clue what a Democracy is, since he believes everyone should think like him – oh, wait a minute, isn’t that Nazi-ism? Communism? Socialism? Where’s this turd’s head at anyway?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pmThese guys are completely devoid of both perspective and dignity.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pmObama’s obviously a purveyor of thing-I-don’t-like-ism. Or something like that.
They’d have an easier time of it if they finally stopped trying to use words and just barked angrily at a picture of Obama from here on out.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pmReally? I dont see much difference in where we are going than under Bush. Same wars, same financial problems, same bailouts, same recession,
Same.
What Demint seems to be talaking about is the washington consensus, the unlected hacks and revolving door politicians that are there president after president for decades now.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm“I have in my hand 57 cases of individuals who would appear to be either not wearing ties or certainly dressed in a business casual fashion, but who nevertheless are still helping to shape our foreign policy.”
August 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pmActually, Senator DeMented (R – Tehran), we had a religious right-wing corporatist Republican dictatorship under the worthless lying Bush regime for eight long years, if you bother to think back nine months and before in 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002 and 2001. In many ways the Bush regime resembled religious dictatorships of the Middle East starting with an illegal seizure of power, followed by arrogance, bullying, stupidity and imperial wars. Any tyrant in the 19th century did the same thing as Bush did in the 21st century.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pmSenator, please relax. Obama is not turning this country into another South Carolina.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
DeMint is lying through his waterloo uranus.
DeMint why than have we not seen those immigrants that have asked you at these Tea-Baggers extended town hall baseless confabs?
Demint says, “And we’ve seen a lot of countries over the years collapse when they’ve gone down the road that we’re going down.”
WTF!?! where has DeMint the scumbag been for the last 8 years?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Obama is led by a fascist leader? Who is leading Obama?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pmIdiot Demint is up fro re election with only a 54% approval rating.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pmTAKE BACK AMERICA says:
Obama and iran are both lead by a fascist leader
Uh .. who leads Obama?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pmSo, I assume we’re planning an invasion, to free those poor Germans.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pmwait’ll you get the details of sarah mcQUITTER’s latest facebook screed…
just now on rachel – she’s scolding about the money that the ‘import/export bank’ is loaning brazil…
upset, because she doesn’t realize it’s a LOAN, calls it taxpayer give-away…
or, she could be LYING.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pmTBA @19 – What the heck are you talking about?!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pmObama and iran are both lead by a fascist leader =TBA
And your lead by God knows what..
August 20th, 2009 at 9:39 pmOkay, DeMint is now a certifiable moron. A man with no intelligence, no integrity, & no love of his country. He should never be listened to again. Never.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pmTAKE BACK AMERICA says:….
– - From corporate special interests, right?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pmMarwick:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pmI’ll bite. Less wars?
France is ranked #1 by the World Health Organization.
Its citizenry pays higher taxes but make a point to get the most out of their government. As of now, I can’t say the same here. Republicans have made sure your tax dollars go into a black hole or are otherwise distributed up.
As for clothing, it’s only cheap right now because we’re in a deep recession. Republican administrations will do that to you. As for fuel, you’re kidding, right? How convenient of you to forget last summer, where gasoline prices were 400% higher from when Bush took office. Same goes for food- $5 a gallon for milk.
Arrogance leads to great ignorance, troll.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
TAKE BACK AMERICA says:
Obama and iran are both lead by a fascist leader
What’s wrong with this sentence? Let’s count the ways.
1. Obama is not a country.
2. Iran is not a person.
3. “lead” =/= “led.”
4. Obama isn’t led by another leader, he is the leader.
5. Iran is not fascist.
6. TBA said it.
That’s an error-to-word ration of 0.6. Not bad wingnuttery, but I’ve seen better.
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marwick says:
Learn about health care in France
OK. From the WHO:
1. France
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37. United States of America
Well, that’s pretty much what I needed to know. Thanks for asking me to learn more while ignoring your uncited claims.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pmWith these comments, we now have proof that idiots like DeMint absolutely invent every lie they say. They have not only no facts, but also no intelligence. My God, this guy is a dolt. Unfortunately, so are many of his & Fox’s listeners. Astounding.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pmbut but but Palin is an energy expert
August 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pmMarwick:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pmPublic transportation?
DeMint is a stupid, obvious liar. As if this jerk would ever talk to immigrants, let alone Iranian immigrants. He’s a racist & an Iranian-hater, & would be disgusted by them. Liar!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:49 pmThe only requirement to be a Senator from SC is to be a stupid, racist, peckerwood. Right Sen. Linseed GrahamCracker?
Strom “KKK” Thurman was a US senator from SC too. See the pattern?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pmMarwick:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pmHigher education?
So, my question is: What is it that the French government provides to its people that an average American can’t buy for much less than $19,000 a year?
They provide the doctor’s appointment you’d otherwise have to pay $300 to get a signature on a prescription pad. If you’re charged that much on a whim, imagine just how fast $19,000 would go for other things.
We were better as a nation just a decade ago, and you’re here defending our degradation by popping names of foreign countries — third world or not.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm#7 katy
thanks for the link.
signed it and gave $.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pmMarwick:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pmBy the way, I could care less what the hell the French do, but when only half the story is presented, you shouldn’t be surprised when others fill in the gaps.
Tell you what, if we’re going to talk about French health care, let’s skip uncited wild numeric claims and try this – here’s a useful article from the center-right Businessweek to chew on.
Although in general I find France to be somewhat too Socialist (to the point where it significantly depresses their economy) it turns out their system isn’t exactly single-payer, but is actually a public/private hybrid that’s more similar to what we’re probably going to end up with. So it’s actually less socialist than Canada’s system, for example. And they still got the #1 ranking.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pmOh, one more thing regarding French health care being more expensive than U.S?
It’s just another plain flat-out lie, as I suspected.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mr. DeMint, the right wing and his C Street Friends, The Family, have been trying for a long time to turn this country into a theocracy. They were close–now it will take longer. They are a little upset. You have to forgive them their irrational outbursts.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:04 pmmarwick @ 47 – GIVE IT UP! You’re using a bad analogy! We’re not going through that in America and as far as I know – the French aren’t complaining about their health insurance costs or their income! They’re not being raped and robbed by insurance companies like Americans are!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pmMarwick:
Perhaps if I didn’t need a car and received public support for health care and college, it wouldn’t be much different. Plus, I wouldn’t have taxes going to support 2 wars.
Your argument is incomplete at best. Simply repeating it is not any more convincing than the first time you posted it.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pmIf DeMint and his holy roller co-religionists have their way, we will definitely be heading toward a holy roller theocracy, with an evangelical form of Sharia imposed on the citizenry.
It wouldn’t be the Dems, the leftists or Obama that would bring this.
It would be stupid vile trash like DeMint that would hand over our freedom in a heartbeat, just to further the dominionist evangelical political agenda.
Screw the repiggies, and screw the teabagger trash.
We just can’t trust the repiggies for anything important, with clowns like DeMint serving as spokespersons.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:06 pmTake-home pay declined $2,000 inflation-adjusted during the Bush years. He oversaw the creation of only 5M jobs in eight years, mostly wiped out at this point. Carter and Clinton, 10 million jobs (1 term) and 23 million jobs, respectively.
Where do you find the time to be worried about France? Please stop pushing this myth that Republicans = robust economy. It’s simply not true.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pmmarwick says:
Many people reading this probably…
… realize by now that you have been blatantly lying about all of your figures.
You are a liar who is lying. The things you are typing are demonstrably contrary to known fact. What you are doing is called “lying.” You are therefore a “liar.”
Stop it.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pmShorter DeMint: We ant to keep the people debt peons.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:10 pmThanks katy @ 7 thanks I’m passing this on to my friends.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pmThe repiggie idiots need to get their stupid little heads around the increasing number of health insurance cancellations, due to “pre-existing condition” or some other crap excuse.
Even if you currently have a “good” health insurance plan, there are no guarantees that you will have it within two years, or five years, or even ten years.
There are far too many people with the ability to pay premiums that have been tossed on the garbage heap by the health insurers.
What is that the stupid little white-wingers fail to grasp?
How will people be able to survive the financial onslaught of emergency surgery or catastrophic illness with an arrogant health insurance cabal increasingly intent on shedding anyone who isn’t in perfect health?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:11 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
DeMint and his ilk gave political permission for millions of jobs to leave the country. At every turn they gave these big corporations everything they asked for. Through institutionalized bribery they’ve bankrupted the country, approved of 2 senseless wars and rubber stamped everything Bush wanted. He and his bunch have contributed mightily to the demise of the United States.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Sadly, the only viable form of censure for Senator DeMint is available at the voting booth.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:18 pmIgnore mordick; nothing more than a lying, c0cksucking troll.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pmIt’
August 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm#57 – any evidence to back your claims up?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pmmarwick says:
#53 ElBruce says:
Hey, don’t shoot the messenger….
*BANG!*
The message is lies. Per Capita, the United States pays twice as much for health care than France. France’s health care system is vastly better than ours. The links I have provided aren’t some partisan crap I made up.
Are you being paid by Karl Rove? Are you one of Bush’s brownshirts?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pmIt’s the fundamentalist right that’s heading toward facism in both countries, Jimmy-boy!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pmmarwick says:
Subtracted from the figures above, statistically the average American has about $29,000 a year left in his pocket, while the average French has only $10,000.
Yeah, but they get better bread. And cheese. And wine. It all evens out.
Oh, and French chicks.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pmAll aboard the Cuckoo Train
August 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pmmarwick says:
First of all the US is a richer country than France and their average annual income isnt as high. Second it pays for a lot more than healthcare. France has a REAL national pension not a safety net like social security. Five weeks vacation is MANDATED EVERY WORKER BY LAW.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pmmarwick says: YOU ARE A LIAR
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/france_159/french-society_6816/population-and-society_6828/key-figures-of-the-french-society_1400.html
August 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
Yeah, but they get better bread. And cheese. And wine. It all evens out.
Oh, and French chicks.
Evens out more when you realize all his numbers are complete lies. Never buy the lie, it only emboldens them.
The U.S. pays about twice as much per capita than France does on health care. France’s health care is ranked #1 while we come in at #39.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pmDemint is tip-toeing into michelle bachmann territory.
This “break him” talk really hits a bad chord with me. Especially coming from a southerner.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pmI lived in France for four years. The French live very well, they have quite a bit of disposable income, and they are able to travel internationally much more comfortably than most Americans.
There are so many lies about Europe, its citizens and its health care system being told by nitwits who have never traveled, or have never lived in another country.
There are so many “experts” who have never even gotten a passport.
Screw the repiggies, the Party of Stupid, and screw the teabagger trash.
They lost in November, due to overwhelming incompetence and nastiness on their part. Everything they say is a lie, and everything they do is a total disaster.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:29 pmI want to know how temporal refugees from 1946 Germany are being allowed to immigrate into 2009 America. Because I don’t know what the hell DeMint is talking about here, unless he has a form of mold growing unchecked inside his head.
Europe isn’t a nation of authoritarian lockstep Stalin, Marx and Red military parades, Senator Jim Revere Henry Washington!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pmDeMint is Iran’s dictators. Projection much? If you don’t know what projection means, go back to school. I am fried with this crap.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:34 pm***
jim’s work on behalf of the john birch society
and the gun owners of america has been outstanding.
:0
August 20th, 2009 at 10:38 pmA right-wing theocrat is warning us that left-wing secularists are trying to establish a right-wing theocracy.
Sure, makes sense.
DERF?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:38 pm***
#79,
are you sure?
because sometimes
you’re so vague.
:::
August 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm… naturalized American citizens who have immigrated here from Germany, Iran and other countries, they come up to me and they say why are we doing what so many have fled from?
Oh really? Proof? Does have any? In other words he is a liar and just makes this sh!t up, so Republican of him.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:48 pmmarwick the nitwit@ 34 and 57,
August 20th, 2009 at 10:48 pmWho said Health Care is free you TWIT.
We had FASCIST Gov’t. Called BUSH.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:48 pmTAKE BACK AMERICA, oh our little adolescent moron is back displaying his superior brain power for us…
….lol, stupid punk, go back to the playground so the girls can kick the shit out of you.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pmMcWars says:
Please stop pushing this myth that Republicans = robust economy.
It’s simply not true.
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But myths and fantasies are all he has to work with.
After nearly a decade of complete and unfettered conservative control in this country… what single, solitary accomplishment can Marwick point to?
ONE, Marwick… just ONE… enlighten us, please.
***TRoS spits on the ground***
Myths and fantasies are all that nutters have left.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:50 pmOK marwick @ #57, since you can’t back your comments, here’s a little something for you to chew on…
http://www.gallup.com/poll/122393/OECD-Countries-Universal-Healthcare-Gets-High-Marks.aspx?CSTS=alert
It’s weird that the DeMint types hate everyone who doesn’t look European, but they hate Europeans, too …
August 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pmTAKE BACK AMERICA says:
I meant america is led by a fascist person
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Been in a coma? Cheney left office months ago.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:52 pmElBruce says:
A right-wing theocrat is warning us that left-wing secularists are trying to establish a right-wing theocracy.
Sure, makes sense.
DERF?
Glenn Beck thought he was seeding the theocratic fields and was looking for a friend in the Manchurian persuasion. But they may have to go the case: tabernacle now that Beck’s advertising napalm has gone off in his face.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:56 pmYou know, it only took me about 20 seconds to find this definition. You might have taken the time too, TBA, and saved yourself the embarassment, but I guess neoCons (or fascists, by definition) are to intellectually and emotionally stunted to feel embarassed.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:58 pmWhat an ass-clown
August 20th, 2009 at 10:58 pmmarwick says:
Many people reading this probably have car payments, house payments, and try to save for retirement. Maybe you also spend money on your kids. How would you be impacted by seeing your take home decline by $19,000 a year to pay for national health care? (See link above).
Subtracted from the figures above, statistically the average American has about $29,000 a year left in his pocket, while the average French has only $10,000.
Are you playing dumb or are you plain dumb?
The fact that the french get 100% medical coverage and still manage to have a 35/hour workweek by law, would account for the discrepancy in their savings or don’t have to worry too much about doctor bills. Not to mention the fact that many people there, take the average job and have a 4 to 6 week paid vacation annually.
Can you see now! How screwed up we are? In one of the richest countries and not being able to have the peace of mind that your insurance company wouldn’t dump you, if you or anyone in you family would suddenly develops a chronic fatal illness.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:59 pmHere’s some truth tellin’ for ol’ DeMintED and his fellow Republicans: You couldn’t PAY 99.9999999999999% of the German people to live in the United States. His claims are absurd. I mean, really. In Germany university is paid for by the gov’ment, health care is paid for by the gov’ment, housing is paid for by the gov’ment, wages are higher, public transportation makes owning a private vehicle unnecessary, schools perform better….must I go on? I mean, folks, there are only TWO things the United States leads the world in today: 1) corporate profits and 2) military spending. Makes ya proud, don’it?
August 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pmBuckie Boy says:
Oh really? Proof? Does have any? In other words he is a liar and just makes this sh!t up, so Republican of him.
Kind of like marwick.
This is a standard wingnut form of argumentation – “I know a guy who…” They can never back it up, certainly not with valid statistics or facts, just personal anecdotes that can’t be sourced.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pmAnd how did DeMint become an expert on Iran ? !!
Probably he digested too much Fox news,or probably he is a fan of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:09 pmPoor little Marwick just repeats that which has been drummed into his tiny brain by his holler roller cult.
Evangelicalism these days concerns four main points:
1. the belief in the literal “account” of creation with Adam and Eve.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:14 pm2. the Second Amendment as God’s gift to the U.S.
3. the icky sex stuff in Leviticus as the most important stuff for Christians, in place of all that “Am I my brother’s keeper” nonsense and the Sermon on the Mount.
4. all the oogie-boogie scary stuff of Revelations, fear being so pivotal to the evangelical/repiggie message.
You would think that no one could possibly be dumb enough to believe any of this crap, and then along comes TAKE bACK AMERICA, marwick, watchdog, and the rest of the clowns. I think EugeneDebs has the right idea for them
August 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pmHey, ElBruce, maybe that’s what Sarah Palin was up to during the election – not being “mavericky,” but “marwicky.” It all fits now…
August 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pmO/T. Glenn Beck Forced off the Air for a WEEK!
Hopefully many more to come!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pmJim DeMint is a member of the C street Family – the pseudo-Christian cult bent on world domination…
who’s really on the rampage here Mr. DeMint?
August 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pmI’ll wager it’s you and many of your C-Street colleagues, members of ‘The Family’, like Chuck Grassley. Is it just a coincidence that these same people are the one’s trying to kill healthcare reform?
WHAT?! LEFTURN – 4 real?!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:34 pmBecoming a theocracy? I wonder whose fault that would be…
August 20th, 2009 at 11:35 pm* MUST SEE *
john stewart sets whatsername (patsy?) straight about her delusional belief in the death panel theory… oh lawd it’s good… he ran long and had to stop, but broke in to say that the rest of the interview was online where “you can watch it… with someone who normally helps you through bad trips.”
L O L . . . !
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gone 3 weeks… argh!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:37 pmWikipedia says of the US:
In 2007, the median annual household income rose 1.3% to $50,233.00 according to the Census Bureau.[3]
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Remember, if I am in a room with the five children of Sam Walton, our AVERAGE wealth is about $16 Billion. Don’t think that I got $16 Billion, cause I don’t. US has more inequality than Europe.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:43 pm…he’s scum!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pmkaty, It was too hilarious! Jon Stewart had Betsy McCaughey (original orchestrator of the death panel theory) stumbling for words! She didn’t know what the hell she was talking about! He’ll be missed while he’s on vacation.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:47 pmUsing the google for Average or median French income, I find:
3,093 euros/month (average gross income) in June 2007 so probably a little more now. With the present exchange rate, it is the equivalent of $58,000/year.
In 2005, the disposable income (= net income after direct taxes) was 29,696 euros/year (average) or 25,205 euros/year (median) per household.
http://www.insee.fr/fr/ffc/chifcle_fiche…
in 2005, a couple with 3 or more children had a net disposable income of 45,398 euros whereas as single person’s was 16,888 euros. Add 2% to 3% for a 2008 estimate.
[I had to take out two links to get past moderation]
August 20th, 2009 at 11:48 pmHours worked per year in France: 1546
August 20th, 2009 at 11:52 pmUS: 1804
Back to the uninformed wingnut bullshit on France further up this thread: from the official French government site “www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/” this little tidbit…”According to international comparisons, French households are among those who spend most and save most. Each year, they save 15% of their income.” So, howzzat compare to our 2008 savings rate of not quite one percent?
And…”Income inequality: 3.45, ratio of top 10% household income to bottom 10%” No comment on comparison here.
AND…..”Working hours per week (effective): 35.9 (Germany: 35.8; UK: 35.7)”
AND…”Pre-tax average monthly salary: €2440″…(and here’s my comment: that equates to roughly $2700, or $32400 per year. http://www.worldsalaries.org/usa.shtml states the average US salary income for the latest year it compiles, 2005, is $18516 per annum, the AVERAGE U.S. salary. So don’t try to tell us the French are lacking in the take-home department)
Plus….”Retirement: Average retirement age: 58.8 years (EU-25 average: 60.9 years)”
Now then. A Jim DeMint cannot be taken seriously. But the bull he and others like him spout daily is taken as gospel by too many folks who are just indoctrinated or too dumb to think for themselves. The US is a great country to live in: I know. I grew up in California, lived in Germany for 20 years, came back to California and am now retired in Arkansas. BUT there’s a whole world out there that often does things better than we do, and we should be able to learn. Without beating each other over the head with made-up statistics and imagined realities.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:53 pmKeith says:
Hours worked per year in France: 1546
US: 1804
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Hours worked per year in US to make Waltons richer: waaaaaay too many
Glen Beck losing advertisers: Priceless!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:55 pmSen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.
Only if we let Jimmy Crakkker Cornheads like you back in power.
August 20th, 2009 at 11:56 pmTo bad we can`t take the first amendment away from the HYPOCRITTERS…….wouldn`t that be great.We were marginalized for eight years,why can`t these ignorant SOB`s take it like the losers they are and SHUT UP!!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 11:59 pmAll I know is we’ve been working harder and harder in this country over the past decade, with less and less to show for it. The median standard of living in the U.S. has been in a slow but very steady decline for a long time before this latest bubble burst. But we’re still working harder.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:00 amRepublicans need to stop treating health care as if it was a commodity….
It is a necessity..for everyone..
If my taxes go for anything..
let it be health care.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:06 amWhen Strom Thurmond’s father was acquitted of murder after shooting a man dead on the steps of the Edgefield County, SC, courthouse for insulting his honor, one wag said, “That’s Edgefield County.” DeMint is but another in a long line of SC politicians who have exploited the State’s special brand of populism. And he won’t be the last. As a former DeMint intern described herself on his website: “I am a rising Junior at Sweet Briar College, a small women’s college in Virginia, with a major in government, focusing on counterterrorism, and a double minor in dance and communications. My ultimate goal is to be elected president of the United States.”
August 21st, 2009 at 12:12 amMay the gods preserve us.
The reasom, if ever, we became like Iran, with a religious dictator, would be if we dont follow constitutional law.
Gee, seems what Velvel lines out has being happening for a while, Mr Demint.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:13 amDeMint wants a theocracy.
Isn’t Iran a theocracy ?
And would someone please tell me how the Kenyan-Malaysian-Hawaiian became Iranian ?
August 21st, 2009 at 12:20 amHe should know – that’s where he and his fellow Re=thugs have been taking us for 30 years now.
With a little luck Obama can undo some of the damage.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:24 am*
De Mint has over-played his hand.
the people are sick of this shit, and he’s too self-involved to see it.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:28 amI think DeMint is ignoring the fact that pres AmenJihad is not the real ruler of Iran….
August 21st, 2009 at 12:29 amZep,
I’d bet $1 DeMint doesn’t know that.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:33 amI bet a dollar you would win a dollar =P
August 21st, 2009 at 12:40 amBut surely a handler would have told him this by now…
August 21st, 2009 at 12:41 amIn spite of the Herculean efforts of the Senator, we Americans simply refuse to follow DeMint’s command to be drug into such a state. I know it would suit him just fine but alas, we are not buying his hysteria at all. But we do not want to preclude him from the jump if he is so absolutely certain that it is a foregone conclusion that it will happen. Go ahead, Jim, and jump right in!!!!!
August 21st, 2009 at 12:49 amI had a dear friend that died because she did not have health care. She had a virus that a simple blood test would have detected. Because she had no health care they would not give her the blood test. They sent her home with an asprian where she died four hours later.
If the republicans like this health care let them have it. I want my tax dollars to keep this from ever happening to anyone else.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:52 am“Sen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.”
File Sen. Demented’s comment: Psycho talk
First, Andrew McCarthy wrote in National Review that retarded article on Obama foregoing necktie in relation to the Iranian regime. Must be something in the water that these clowns are drinking.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.. Small minds with a small agenda to attack Obama. Thank you, tiny Jim. Now go deal with your state’s problems, unemployment, and your own Governor.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:53 amKeith says:
Very good posts. I do however want to point out that median is not THAT kind of average. That would be a mean average. Median means there are as many above as there are below
August 21st, 2009 at 1:00 amYes, you’re right, Senator De-Mented. I just received a letter from the White House telling me that I will have to start wearing a chador and headscarf.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:13 amSeriously, if any immigrant has come up to say such things to this Senator, it was probably the one and only Orly Taitz.
I don’t recall any Democrat in Congress speaking so often and with so much venom about George Bush. Yes, they had policy disagreements with him, but none accused him of trying to destroy the country. But this is what Republicans and their simple minded internet beta-monkeys do best. They can’t lead and address problems, they just make things worse. But they are good at demonizing the opposition. Not with facts, just with lies.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:30 amwhat a whacko! another republizan i presume.
August 21st, 2009 at 1:49 amThe French also get 5 weeks paid vacation per year and anyone that wants to go to college attends for free. They actually get value and real benefits from their taxes. We get clowns like DeMint and people that believe republicans are going to bring back Jesus. And our taxes go to billionaires.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:10 amRepublicans must have invented the statement ‘if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.’
August 21st, 2009 at 2:16 amAnd the republican sheeple are the most easily baffled because all they’ve ever believed is the bullshit from republican politicians.
Repiglizan are like zombies.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:30 amDid you hear how bush and cheney were terrorising the population with phony terror alerts?
August 21st, 2009 at 2:32 amJim DeMint is right about America becoming like Iran.
And DeMint started off by making his state like that of Iran first in the nation. he should be proud of the Americans in his state that are not getting the education to compete in this would economy because DeMint clise his mind off to the thought of American Gov’t performing its legal function and duty to ensure education. His state also seems to like the hateful fundamental religious tenets. Are we sure Jim DeMint dooesn’t live at “C” Street?
August 21st, 2009 at 2:58 amHow many times has DeMint went hiking down the old southern most part of the Appelation Trail?
No, no, Senator DeMint. That statement only exists in the fuzzy parts of your mind. In case you have not noticed, many Americans have already made the decision to abandon the radical right and to return to some sanity. I certainly have made some decisions along these lines. Although a life long Republican at 76 years now, I shall re-register before the next General Election. I am finally making this move because of the extreme hatefulness that exists in our Grand Old Party these days. Plus, I feel that so much of the rhetoric coming out of the mouths of Republicans is very unGodly. I have no other choice than to leave or if I even tried to stay, it would be a big lie that I supported the disgusting stands of the GOP. Mostly, I feel that the GOP has little concern for the less fortunate. As a retired registered nurse I have seen the horrors people go through after years of neglect within our health care system. For the Obama Health Care Plan alone, I feel compelled to switch. But you see, I am not alone. Here in Arizona there are many who will join me in a switch of partys. The Republican Party of my mother’s era is dead and gone now. The bones that are left have no soul nor compassion either. God help Republicans get in touch with the horrible suffering of so many so they help get the health care overhaul right.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:04 amDeMint should be more honest and come right out and say it isn’t about health care, money, or “being like Iran” it’s all about beating Obama. DeMint and Bachmann blindly misses the fact that without the stunning Reagan/Bush/Republican failures the past 30 years there would be no Obama.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:09 ammari2RR says I hope there are more people like you!
August 21st, 2009 at 3:46 amSen. Jim DeMint says America ‘headed’ to becoming like Iran.
If Jim DeMint doesn’t like living in America then he should pack his bags and leave. I’ll pay for his ticket out of our country if he signs an agreement to never return.
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Once I read my above post – I realized I misspelled several words. Please forgive me as it is late.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:31 amAs for Jim DeMint. I may or may not agree with his comments
So it seems you may.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:42 amEugeneDebs,
Yes, a median is a better idea of what the average American makes. I was criticizing “marwick” who was just using average–which doesn’t take into account the US’s bigger inequality.
Ten years ago, it was said the median American did not own one single share of stock!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:48 amHas there ever been a time in history where so many ugly weird pig like folks have gathered in masses lapping up the outrageous lies the corporate media puts out there to protect their corporate interest? And these freaks believe that crap. When I say ugly, I am not judging by appearance but by their rotten to core character and nasty attitude.
My head hurts to think what I may find tomorrow. More ugliness and lies.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:14 amAnd where are the Christians on a public health option? They of ALL people should be the ones speaking loudest on this issue.
What hypocrites.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:18 amWow, I didn’t know Germany was so horrible to live in. Must be why so may Germans immigrate here. Life must be so hard in Europe where you can’t think for yourself. This guy makes the human race look so bad!
August 21st, 2009 at 5:25 amApe-man.
Typical. You don’t address anything that I said. You just wanted to somehow point a finger at me and try to say I fall into some kind of category that you look down on. Sad really.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:26 amBlaming Clinton for Republican screw-ups. Now there’s a surprise. ;)
(This idea goes over very well at Huffington Post, by the way,)
August 21st, 2009 at 5:28 amIs this the early stages of the next personal attack on Obama – earlier, we heard about his being without a tie is “Iranian” and now we hear that America is going to be remade into Iran
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151. denmore says:
Perry Logan,
I didn’t just blame Clinton for our economy woes. I stated that he force fed the CRA down the banks throats. I don’t care if you believe me or not. Continue to stick your head into the sand and think your far left leaders are above reproach. But, the CRA was the catalyst to the recession we are in now. Was it he sole reason? No, but it started us down a path that the banks were unable to recover from.
denmore,
I won’t “attack” you as it seems that you love to dish it out, but can’t take it, but if memory serves me correctly I remember Congress being Republican during the Clinton years, i.e., “B.J. in the White House”. My studies of the Constitution have given me the fact that it is the Congress that passes laws.
Now are you telling me that Congress caved into or agreed with Clinton, especially during the time it was non-stop “Let’s ruin the Presidency”? By the way, I find it very interesting that the same moral stone-throwers are now being shown to be the hypocrites that they are with their secretive trysts with women, men, and films of children.
There you go denmore, not once did I “attack” you, just your heros.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:48 amHe has given in to jihad, he has suppressed free speech, he has lied repeatedly, he has smeared the dignity of America overseas, he has bowed down to our enemies, he has poisoned our economy.
1. Bush vowed eight years ago to catch bin Laden. He failed to do so.
2. Bush enacted the Patriot Act. Not Obama.
3. Bush lied about our reasons for going to war, and lied about reasons for raising and lowering terror alerts, as we learned recently.
4. Bush’s policies against the ‘axis of evil’ was what soured relations with Europe and the rest of the world.
5. Bush’s – and by rote Wall Street’s – policy of giving homes to people unable to afford them, as well as easing laws that fought monetary corruption during his presidency, is what caused the recession we are in.
How many American soldiers have already died for his war for Islam?
Both the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars were started under Bush. 2001 and 2003, respectively.
How much American blood will be spilled in the next Muslim attack on our country? How much more of our freedom will Obama steal from us?
September 11th, 2001, which happened while Bush was in office.
Please, before you bellyache about Obama’s wars, please
August 21st, 2009 at 6:51 am…remember to assign the right wrongs to the right person.
(Silly enter key.) :/
August 21st, 2009 at 6:52 amLast night at the store I overheard a moron wingnut talking loudly who was arguing with two cashiers that, “if they pass national healthcare here, I’m getting out and moving to Canada.”
August 21st, 2009 at 7:46 amI haven’t yet met one single European or Canadian resident of the U.S. that has given up their original citizenship, even if they have become American citizens.
Want to know why?
Health care options.
My European and Canadian friends who live here truly love the experience of living in the U.S., particularly in Florida, but they are quite realistic about health care expenses.
I lived in France for four years, and their health care system is really fabulous, up-to-date and patient-friendly.
One of my German friends suggested that I marry a European, that I could have the best of both worlds at my fingertips. I am seriously considering it, given the utter lunacy passing as policy coming from the repiggie morons.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:01 amAlthough I do not yet see the tie to “Facism”, which can basically be defined as an oppressive Socialistic government with high levels of corruption, I do see big government and big spending, followed by bigger government and bigger spending as a means to make recessions (the natural correction to the over-valueing products and services) last longer and longer – thus putting off the inevitable pain that must accompany an economic correction. The difference between Europe or Iran and the United States is that we have become an instant gratification society that can not and will not accept the fact that in life there are winners and losers (a liberal ideology). As we drift further and further left as a country we will also slip further further into debt and moral decay. In summary – I agree with Mr. Demint’s conservative ideology but think his rhetoric is a bit extreme. As a soldier that has served in Europe and southwest Asia I will say that we still enjoy the cleanest and one of the most prosperous countries on the planet. I am encouraged to see that people accross the country have come out of their cacoons and are starting to become engaged in debate that makes democracy the most desired form of government on the planet too.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:01 amDeMint is part of the Republican leadership in the Senate so he is the face of the Republican Party. Little does DeMint seem to realize that the recent election tampering in Iran that he implies Obama will use most closely resembles 2000 where the brother of one candidate purged tens of thousands of legally eligible, registered voters that tipped the election in favor of his brother. The illegal “felon” purge even purged a Democratic Congresswoman, for crying out loud. She was, of course, a Democrat. DeMint’s efforts to tie the current conservative German government to Hitler is just plain stupid. DeMint is not alone in the stupid department when in comes to the Republican leadership.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:05 amdenmore; As a Bank Manager for over 2 years I saw this happen on a daily basis.
First, you weren’t a bank manager. You’re lying. Second, blacks don’t have the buying power to crash the world economy. That was caused by scams by white Wall Street bankers. They caused the crash in order to steal millions and they’re feeding you rubes lies that your foolish racist asses will readily glom on to. They knew you would because they know you’re dumb like we do. They laugh about it while we worry about the future of the country. Third, a mulatto is in the White House.
Last, you better get serious about getting acquainted with reality after all these years and still crazy.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:05 amAlso, you’re racist white trash.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:09 ammarwick: In case you wonder if I have made any calculation errors, you can check with the French Embassy and learn that the average family income in France was €20,440 Euro (around $26,000) in 2004. Take out the taxes, and consider the higher prices in France; and then compare to America.
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Your number for the average family income is off by a factor of more than 2. The average family income in France for the year 2007 was $58,000. You don’t have to write a letter to the French embassay. All you gotta do is google:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080519165643AAbZsgy
It appears that France is not the impoverished totalitarian nightmare that you’ve “calculated” it to be.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:17 amIs this all the GOP have? Where are the ideas? Where is the promise of a better and peaceful future? Calling Joe the Plumber–Jim DeMint is sprung a leak.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:22 amWhy do Repignicans hate America?
August 21st, 2009 at 8:24 amSingle payer now!
August 21st, 2009 at 8:31 amThe National Socialist Party of the 20’s and 30’s worked very closely with wealthy industrialists and bankers to make a more “business-friendly” environment, with the industrial and banking groups agreeing not to interfere in the Nazi social policy in exchange for less regulation in matters of finance and labor.
Big business and big banks joined the Nazis in the endorsement of a strong military, an all-encompassing police presence, emphasis on “traditional” German and Nordic values and the villification of “outsiders,” particularly Jews, but also Gypsies and Slavs.
That business and financial cabal looked the other way while elections were suppressed and rigged, civil liberties were immediately curtailed, political opposition was silenced and censorship in the arts and literature was implemented. News organizations and journals which opposed the policies of the Third Reich were summarily closed down.
Does any of this sound familiar to you?
President Obama and the Dems do not indulge in this stuff. The repiggies, under the aegis of the Bush/Cheney regime, did their best to implement much of what the Third Reich saw as admirable and patriotic.
There are intelligent repiggies, students of history, who have cravenly chosen to play the manipulator, pulling the puppet strings of the utterly stupid and the poorly educated nitwits out there, the same sort of morons that donned the brown shirts and became the violent rabble in service of the Third Reich.
DeMint is not one of those intelligent repiggies. DeMint is simply a moron and a nitwit, with barely a passing acquaintance with the history of the 20th century.
Again, why do the repiggies put ignoramuses such as DeMint, Palin, Grassley, Sessions and the like in positions of power?
Please note the constant intertwining of “religion” with a mythic representation of a pure, clean American past. This repiggie fetish is directly out of the Third Reich playbook.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:33 amSenator DeMint you are correct we may be on the path to becoming like Iran… guided by the C Street hypocrits and Falwell’s “Liberty” University grads infesting the justice department. They continue to blur the separation between church and state as the Republican caucus tries to become the “Evangelical” Council of the United States of Christ!
“[S]hake off all the fears of servile prejudices
August 21st, 2009 at 8:58 amunder which weak minds are servilely crouched.
Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal
every fact, every opinion.
Question with boldness even the existence of a god
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear…”
- Thomas Jefferson
bird67, Amen.
The repiggies seem hellbent on ushering in an evangelical theocracy, with their own nasty form of Sharia imposed on the citizenry.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:10 ambird67–with the GOP adopt the Sen. Ensign, Gov. Sanford, Sen. Vitter, or Larry Craig-style of evangelical “family values?”
August 21st, 2009 at 9:15 amDeMint has basically become a LaRouchie.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:21 amit must be the water in South Carolina. First Sanford, then the horse lover and now DeMint. Oh and by the way Mr. DeMint you can kiss my BLACK ASS !
August 21st, 2009 at 9:39 amSo, some nobody emigrant from all of these countries with bifurcated societies has ready access to DeMint and can spin his tale of woe. Sure sounds like that myth about the Iraqis taking over a neonatal ICU and dumping the babies which the elder Bush administration spun to get us to defend Kuwaiti oil interests.
If anybody is talking to DeMint today from Iran, that person was most likely a supporter of the Shah and among the over-class in the pre-Revolutionary Iran. This person isn’t concerned about economic mobility. They’re concerned about the peons forcing the aristocrats to disgorge their ill-gotten gains. I can understand why DeMint is concerned. He doesn’t want this nation to finally enforce criminal laws against members of his class, after they’re being exempt for so long. DeMint ought to be glad that nobody is talking yet about bringing back Madame Guillotine for his kind.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:40 amWell reading this page is certainly an eye opener to how die hard Democrats you are. Your all just as bad as the Die hard Republicans. I could respond to dozens of these posts, but I want to make the point that I dont agree with DeMint, nor with alot of the rhetoric from the republican camp (GOP-why is it so grand?). Nor do I agree with ANY of the crap coming from the Dems. Pure partisan, not even caring about what other people think. All that matters is that you get what you want and if it hurts other people then be damned. You had to deal with 8 years of bush(yes after those 8 years I def didn’t support him, naivety for about 7 of those years on what it meant to be american changed). So if you got bush for 8, we get Obama for 8, right? Petty. I DARE you to consider where those people are coming from. Dont just blow them off with all the stereotypical responses. I DARE you to actually look past the party politics and see that the Dems are doing EXACTLY what the Repubs do and ram things through that people dont want.
Bush may have signed the Patriot act into law… but Obama signed to continue it. What of that?
August 21st, 2009 at 9:52 amto dentroll,
Yes, Senator DeMint has the right to speak his mind(lessmess), and we, on the left of him, equally have the right to criticize his ignorant blather.
And your reference to Justice Sotomayor as a “blatant racist” gives away where you stand. As a very pale-skinned white woman who has lived in cities where people looking like me are in the minority, I can very much understand what she might by her “wise Latina” remark, even if you can’t.
denmore says:
August 21st, 2009 at 9:59 amAs for Jim DeMint. I may or may not agree with his comments. But, unlike most of you leftist(SIC) – I would do anything to retain his right to say these things.
Funny, you same people are the ones who didn’t say a word when our knew(SIC) supreme court judge(SIC) was voted in. She is a blatant racist….but she got a pass. Hypocrits(SIC).
DeMint is doing what all Republicans do right now, blowing the Christian totalitarian dog whistle to the right wing extremists who have infiltrated and taken over the Republican party.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:59 amnonsense101 says:
“Obama is destroying this country. He has given in to jihad, he has suppressed free speech, he has lied repeatedly, he has smeared the dignity of America overseas, he has bowed down to our enemies, he has poisoned our economy. How many American soldiers have already died for his war for Islam? How much American blood will be spilled in the next Muslim attack on our country? How much more of our freedom will Obama steal from us?”
Yeah and he burnt my toast this morning too, dammit!
August 21st, 2009 at 10:05 amSay anything, Senator. You’re circling the drain.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:13 amnonsense101 says:
“How much more of our freedom will Obama steal from us?”
All of it! Trust me.
I suggest you leave the country, while you still can!
…and take the rest of the trailer park with you.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am#19 pbeeg says:
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Germany, Iran…
South Africa….”
As a South African I’d like to point out that you do not know what you are talking about. Since we got rid of the “facist” rightwing Nationalist “Christian” government in this country the average standard of living of our people has increased including healthcare and education. Yes we have our problems, like so many countries, including crime! Hey you had George Buish for 8 years – give me crime any day!
August 21st, 2009 at 10:28 amTo nonsense 101,
August 21st, 2009 at 10:34 amYour post is perhaps the foulest, most demented and most ignorant I have read here yet. I don’t have the time nor energy to refute all your blather, so I will take up just one: Obama’s bowing to the Saudi king, which you wingnuts have made such a fuss over, while conveniently ignoring all the pictures/videos of George W. Bush holding hands and even kissing the same monarch. Goodness! I hadn’t realized how much you wingnuts really support homosexual relations.
When are we going to read about this guys mistress? Republicans have lost most of their charm. What they sound like are a bunch of whining children.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:47 amUSMSee says:
“When are we going to read about this guys mistress? Republicans have lost most of their charm.”
Charm?
August 21st, 2009 at 10:52 amYou mean like Cheney charm?
They still have it!
headed toward being a Muslim theocracy? gonna be one hell of a trip….
August 21st, 2009 at 10:53 amSo let’s see..DeMinted now gets his talking points from Dick Armey and Eric Prince!!! Great combo….Maybe the three of them can be room mates at Supermax !! Tyrone would love these three..
August 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amWHAT! Before you use big words like fascism jd shouldn’t you know the definition? As a citizen of the great state of South Carolina jim demented might have a point though in that the religious right, that he caters to, does bare a strong resemblance to the mullas of iran and we may well be going islamo fascist here but I’d personally blame the previous administration for that.
August 21st, 2009 at 11:36 amWell, Jimmy it would seem as if you and others like you are trying “your best” to make it so and all because Obama is President.
Don’t think that we are not wise to what you are trying to do.
JUST LOOK AT THIS
American flags not welcome at oil Astroturf rally.
At a “grassroots” rally organized by the American Petroleum Institute in Houston on Tuesday, activists bearing American flags were turned away.
ARE THESE FRIENDS OF YOUR’S??????
People who actually carried the Americn Flag were turned away – what’s that all about, Jimmy?
Next, you and others like you will not want to drape our fallen soilders in the American flag when they return home from a war that your beloved ‘bush’ started.
You bet we are watching what “you all” are doing. Therefore, in that regard American may just have to go through the same thing that people in Iran went through.
DO YOU WISH THAT TO HAPPEN? My guess is that: “yes you do.”
August 21st, 2009 at 11:38 amRetiredSailor says:
I didn’t just blame Clinton for our economy woes. I stated that he force fed the CRA down the banks throats. I don’t care if you believe me or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So you said that huh? Of course I dont believe you since is patently stupid. The CRA was passed in the 70’s. It was amended under Bush 1 and Clintons tweaking of the bill was nothing but deregulatory. Making interstate banking easier for instance. Since you have no idea what you are talking about I guess you are just telling us what Rush TOLD you to think. Thats ok we have heard this one a dozen times before. It doesnt make any sense but then you cells of the Limborg rarely do
Continue to stick your head into the sand and think your far left leaders are above reproach. But, the CRA was the catalyst to the recession we are in now. Was it he sole reason? No, but it started us down a path that the banks were unable to recover from.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:08 pmDeMint is behind the curve here…
Iran has no public health program. Iran still has the Death Penalty, and (only until recently), like Iran, the U.S. was run by a bunch of religious nuts that live to blur the separation between church & state.
Sorry Jim, but the government is finally PULLING BACK from becoming more like Iran.
August 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pmFirst off I wonder how much dough he gets from medical insurers and their lobbyists. Second, if America heads down the same road as Iran i.e. a theocracy, it won’t be because of liberals but due to the paranoid, bible thumping crazies and gun toting conservatives that I wouldn’t trust to walk a dog, let alone run a country.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pmWhy does everyone think France has a better healthcare system?
August 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pmJust because the WHO sais it is, does’nt really mean it is! Any one can get free healthcare here!!! Just go to a hospital, they can not refuse you!! I know people who have done it. And it works! It’s free!!
If it’s so great in France, then move there!
Whatthe,
if you are in imminent danger, the ER can’t refuse you. If you have a non-life threatening injury, you’ll just have to wait till it becomes life threatening.
High Blood pressure – you just have to wait till it goes up a little higher.
Kid with an ear infection – let ‘em cry till the infection spreads into the brain cavity or invades the bloodstream.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pmOh, should have added, going to the ER is the most expensive way to be treated. Ever seen an ER bill for sewing up a simple laceration ?
To recup its costs for all those people going to the ER without the means to pay, the hospital has to “share” it with the people who have insurance.
Cost of the uninsured to the insured is estimated at several thousand dollars per year.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pmI’ve lived in SC for over 28 years now. I’m SO embarassed by the fools and idiots this poor (literally) state has managed to elect.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pmWhatthe,
Have you ever used the ER? I have. It is not free. They send you a *&^%$#@ BILL. Tis bill can easily go into the thousands of dollars. In every other developed country in the world, it is “free”.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pmYeah, what makes you think the World Health Organization knows more about health than Whatthe??? snark
August 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pmWTH? – we were border lining on a dictatorship when bush/cheney were in office. The GOP has lost what little bit of sanity that it had and they are now riding on the wing nut express.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:53 pmWow…So much to address.
For one, I WAS a Branch Manager for Bank of America. I dont’ care if you believe me ore not. No, I am not racist. If I was – it would be against the whites. I’m black. So, now I get to hear all the “Uncle Tom” remarks next – right?
The CRA has been and is the cause of our economy woes. Period. If you look at my post further up – I stated that it was passed under Carter then pushed down the throats during Clinton’s reign.
To the self proclaimed white woman above me who says she understands the “Wise Latina” remark and believes it. I have to disagree with you. Personally, I believe that all races are equal. I don’t believe that any one race is better then another – we are ALL created in the image of god.
Funny, all I hear on here is garbage going off on “right wing nuts” or “Christian Fundamentalist”. You my friends are no better then they are. As soon as you find out someones opinion differs from your own – you immediately attack them versus arguing the points. Also, why is it that you attack Christians, but fail to mention all the good they do in the world?
So stick to your biased opinions, run from the facts that are shown to you and live your life in the little bubble Obama has created for you. I’m not angry at anyone here….I feel sorry for you.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:22 pmto dentroll,
I agree that all races are equal or at least should be equal. I also believe that women are not inferior to men. But we all have different experiences, and the perspective of a wise Latina, with her unique background, will most likely be different from that of Justice Roberts, for example, and much needed, I think, just as Justice Ruth Ginsburg could understand and emphasize with the humiliation felt by a young girl, who was needlessly strip-searched, in a way that some of her male colleagues couldn’t.
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 amFinally, I personally don’t care whether or not you believe I am white or even a woman, for that matter.
Whatthe says:
Well you are an idiot. Emergency care is NOT healthcare. If you need ongoing care to live you will DIE. So the WHO is wrong just because YOU say so? Please. Isnt it time for Rush to tell you what to think?
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 amdenmore says:
No it isnt. So you said that. All that shows is you are a MORON. The CRA was passed in the 70’s if it is the cause of all our problems they sure took a long time to develop. All Clinton did to the CRA was to deregulate the banks which most conservatives love. Yeah I think you are lying. Or you are exceedingly stupid if you were manager of a bank and didnt know CRA was passed in the mid seventies. Actually you only believe that because Rush told you to and you are too stupid to think for yourself.
Yeah and the wise latina argument doesnt dispute that in any way. What she said in the context of talking about DISCRIMINATION cases is she would hope a wise latina would make better judgements. That is her experiences would be different and LEAD to better judgements again you only know about this what rightwing screechmonkeys have told you since you are exceedingly brainwashed.
I never thought I was better than anyone. Thank God however I am not as STUPID as you are. I love the way you snivel about us attacking people then go on your own attack. So you are not only stupid but also a hypocrite. Good job. I love to laugh at people as stupid as you
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 amSenator Demint-what is the unemployment rate in your state? How many people lack health care in your state. I was led to believe that your party of family values was working to help all the people of your state.Perhaps you should help your “traveling” governor to help win back the respect and love of his family. The people of South Carolina would be better served by that instead of your ramblings on socialism.You have to know what socialism is to speak about it.
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 pmI am one of those Iranian-Americans that the senator is talking about. As much as I dispise the totaleterian Iranian regime, I love president Obama and his policies. I don’t see any comparison between our president and the Iranian regime. In fact, the health care system in Iran is the same as the US.
Unless, he is comparing the dictatorship. If that’s the case, he is too late, since cheney/bush are gone! We now have a president that we can all be proud of. We should all help the president to do his job right.
Long Live the United States of America!
August 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 am