Rep. Foxx Says Congress Has No Business Reforming Health Care: It’s Just A ‘Distraction’
Rep. Foxx Says Congress Has No Business Reforming Health Care: It’s Just A ‘Distraction’
Yesterday in a “telephone town hall,” Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) not only repeated her opposition to Democratic proposals for health care reform, but characterized all federal government incursions into health care as unconstitutional. In fact, she said that attempting reform was nothing more than a “distraction” from more important issues:
FOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care. As you may know, the 10th amendment, it says if it isn’t mentioned in the Constitution to be done by the federal government, it’s left to the states or the people. [...]
I think one of the problems we have in this country right now is the fact that the federal government is trying to do too much. We need to leave things to the states and the localities. … And unfortunately, we are distracting ourselves from looking after the defense of this nation because we are dealing with issues that should, by right, be the state and individual’s.
Foxx, of course, also thinks the current health care system in America is so “good” that it couldn’t really get much better. “There are no Americans who don’t have healthcare,” Foxx said last month. “Everybody in this country has access to healthcare.” (She’s wrong.)
Foxx is right that the Constitution never explicitly says the words “health care.” But as Ian Millhiser has pointed out, Article I does give Congress the power to “lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises” and to “provide for….the general welfare of the United States.” “Rather than itemizing specific subject matters, such as health care, which Congress is allowed to spend money on,” notes Millhiser, “the framers chose instead to give Congress a broad mandate to spend money in ways that promote the ‘general welfare.’”
Of course, Foxx doesn’t seem to have a problem with Medicare. When Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) proposed an amendment to kill this government-run program, neither Foxx nor any other Republican voted for it.
Transcript:
FOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care. As you may know, the 10th amendment, it says if it isn’t mentioned in the Constitution to be done by the federal government, it’s left to the states or the people.
I think one of the problems we have in this country right now is the fact that the federal government is trying to do too much. We need to leave things to the states and the localities. All of us know — I think it’s common sense — that the further away from the people you go with government and with spending, the more waste you’re going to have. Jefferson said the government that governs least, governs best, and I agree with that. I think that much of what we’re dealing with at the federal level should be done at the state level; much of it can even be done at the local level.
We have too much going on at the federal level. The number one priority of the federal government is the defense of this nation. If you stop to think about it, the federal government is the only one in our governments that can do the defense of the nation. The states and localities can do everything else, but they cannot provide for the defense. And unfortunately, we are distracting ourselves from looking after the defense of this nation because we are dealing with issues that should, by right, be the state and individual’s.
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Get this woman her own show! She’ll make millions–for Rupert Murdoch…
August 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pmFoxx is really a man.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pmGod you guys are great at picking a picture that really finds their soul which in this case has most likely been dealt to the devil
August 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pmShe has a cross-eyed crazy look, typical repug.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pmArticle I
Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives…
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States…[emphasis mine]
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Foxx, STFU.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pmShorter Foxx: Screw sick people this is about my masters private wealth.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pmAge=wisdom.
In this case–not so much.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pmFOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care.
The general welfare of the United States is just a distraction? These people have no business even calling themselves Americans.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pmTo some people finding logic is task in itself.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pmThis woman is a very sick wacko. If she was younger, she could compete with Palin and Bachmann. Ageism has put her behind the eightball. Old can be stupid too.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pmAnd where, Foxx, does it say that subsidising private health insurance is constitutional?
If the government subsidises private health insurance then it certainly can reform those health insurance grants/subsidies.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pmIncorrect, we are watching you very closely. You are the greatest terrorist threat to America today.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pmElBruce, truer words were ne’er spake:
“These people have no business even calling themselves Americans.”
I’m so old…I remember when the conservatives PROUDLY declared they were taxpayers. That was what separated them from the left.
I told my idiot neighbor last night about this, that the right has now stolen the left’s old tactic of making the government the enemy–but for the stupidest of reasons. He didn’t get it. Which means, basically, that he didn’t ‘believe’ me.
This is a war of belief. Of religion. Of deciding what set of facts you trust. And as far as I can tell, one side lies its ass off, while the other treads water…
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Rep. Bird’s Nest, M.D.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pmIn the terms of national security of this nation, which IS the people, not the terra firma we go upon, that make it what it is, you should be defending the people Foxx.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pmThere really needs to be an IQ test before anyone can run for office.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pmsscncturn64, save that crap for 4chan. iFlag.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pmI’d take a close look at her district, the place likely has more churches than clinics.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pmso the right wing talibangelicals and the rest of the nut show is showing there compassion for there fellow American i see.
isn’t she one who said something about the repugs has a plan a real pro-live one.
shaking my head i feel for the NC people in her district i just can not reach them.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pmI think the quote from the Constitution should have included the Commerce Clause. Clearly health insurance and medical care extend beyond state lines.
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
August 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pmShe’s the one who called Matthew Shepard’s murder and “unfortunate incident” which occurred during a robbery. But then again she’s from the Deep South..
August 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pman not “and” sorry….
August 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pmThe government is by, for and of the people.
They ought to make these representatives of the people repeat that daily and that they are people, not kings, not lords, not monarchs, not stars, not celebrities and its not their job to give the people the opinion or view they want but to do the peoples bidding.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pmThis in ONE UGLY women…I wonder if she’s related to Propaganda Minister Limpballs?
August 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pmIf congress has no business touching health care, why did cons ram through Medicare Part D, a bill not paid for and awarding huge subsidies to big pharma? I forgot- it’s not ok if help assured to the individual, it must trickle down large corporations. Maybe you’ll benefit, maybe you won’t.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pmRep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Nope. It should be “Rep. Virginia Foxx (DRT-AU*)”
* Dining Room Table – Alternate Universe (H/T Barney Frank)
August 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pmArticle I Section 1.
Authorizes Congress to regulate commerce. Healthcare delivery and insurance are both commercial.
Authorizes Congress to pass uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcy. A huge percentage of bankruptcies occur because of healthcare costs.
Authorizes Congress to promote progress of science and useful arts. Medical practice is both a science and a useful art.
Authorzes Congress to create and maintain an army and navy, but no air force. There is no ammendment that provides for Congress to create, pay for, or control an air force. Is the air force unconstitutional? No, we have “liberally” interpreted the Constitution to bring its meaning into the modern world (this is my favorite explanation of where the term “liberal” comes from. Thanks 1971 HS History teacher – see I was listening.)
August 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pmThis Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.</strong>
August 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm6th Amendment
The constitution doesn’t grant businesses the same rights as individuals and yet……
August 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian says:
Hey GREAT post. Top notch points there.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pmCaption:
The Crazy
August 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pmIf we are looking word for word at the Constitution — which I doubt Foxx has ever read — I don’t see a specific authorization for Congress to make me buy its members health insurance either. Art. I mentions “compensation” but says nothing about benefits. Guess she won’t be accepting her federally funded insurance. Her older constituents are going to be unhappy when her challenger next year points out that her position mandates elimination of Medicare too.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pmFoxx, of course, also thinks the current health care system in America is so “good” that it couldn’t really get much better.
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Foxx is, of course, talking about HER health care, which is provided for her by — the U.S. government!
Sit down and STFU, cupcake. Stop channeling Bachmann.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pmFoxx is typical repugniscum hypocrite.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pmShe has her Medicare and Social Security – plus she has her own government health insurance — why should she care about anyone else — after all, she’s the public servant!!
Perhaps that stupid old cow isn’t aware that many women in her age group have been dropped by insurers due to cancer.
Here is a link about another younger woman, a young married mother, who has been dropped by the insurer. Please read about her and her family. This is going on far too much.
http://savestevesfamily.blogspot.com/
Do the repiggies have any answers, apart from “the market solution?”
Your precious g-damned market discards people like her.
What about the repiggie evangelicals? How long will they stick their heads in the g-damned sand and pretend that they don’t know about this stuff?
August 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pmCan we stop with the “she’s ugly” meme? She, like all of us, has minimal control over how she looks (you know, like President Obama, being half-white and half African American). What she DOES have control of is her level of being informed, her willingness to tell the truth, the words she uses to describe things, etc. and these areas are the ones upon which we should judge her.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pmElbruce@18,I dont usually make comments like that.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pmAfter I hit enter I regretted it because I stooped to the level of a troll. Once again I apologize to the regulars here at TP. Sometimes the stupidity of the right drives you up the wall and down the other side to the point where you cant think straight.
The distraction is that we are reforming health care:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pmIt should be that we are reforming health insurance coverage.
These days being a republican is being anti-American.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pmThey are determined to undermine anything that upholds the average American, to thwart any Democratic plan to help out the struggling, and to speak out against the government while on foreign land.
They have betrayed Americans at every turn and intend to continue.
WTF is with this “Cross-eyed” brain dead woman?? WOW!!!!!!!
August 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pmThe Constitution doesn’t grant the right to 750 military bases in 177 countries, either.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pmVirginia Foxx = Mel Brooks’ character from Blazin’ Saddles?
(My apologies in advance, especially to PLC. It’s been a long week, and I’m in one goofy a$$ mood)
August 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pmjuniebird says
August 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
But then again she’s from the Deep South..
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Um, no. We North Carolinians aren’t in the Deep South (that would be Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, etc.) — we’re actually in the Mid-Atlantic, but yes — south of the Mason-Dixon line.
Remember we actually went Blue for Obama in November 2008, and at the same time kicked out a Republican Senator (Elizabeth Dole) and put in a Democrat.
Virgina Foxx represents probably the most right-wing area of our state, and they probably love her there. But please don’t judge us all by this deluded woman.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pma couple of things:
1: She actually said the Matthew Shepard murder was “a hoax” (verbatim quote).
2: She said that the rethuglicans’ health care reform plan (which doesn’t exist, btw) is better than the democrats’ because it “won’t put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.” (close to a verbatim quote; it might be right, but i’m too lazy and steamed to go look it up right now)
3: Be on the lookout for people like Foxx who believe that the only legitimate role for government is to build tanks and defend the homeland. Even though they believe this, they will not pass up an opportunity to rape taxpayers to enrich their big corporation backers and buddies.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pmIf Foxx truly believes it is up to her state to decide whether or not to provide healthcare to people in her state, simply figure out how many North Carolians are on Medicare or Medicaid, determine the federal government’s share and then pay the funds to their state and let them figure out how to run it and pay for it.
Then we will see some death panels…
PEACE
August 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pmEugeneDebs says:
Thanks. I am really glad that our country was founded by brilliant men of science, reason, learning, research, and bravery who could craft such a marvelous foundation for governance as the US Constitution and have it be such a workable document over 200 plus years. I shutter to imagine what kind of document and country Rep. Foxx, Michele Bachman, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, and others like them would have produced if they were the founders of our country.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pmBobbyG says:
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Article I
Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives…
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States…[emphasis mine]
August 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pmWhats an “imposts”?
This lady is bat sh*t crazy and an embarrassment to the people of NC!
August 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pmBuckie Boy says
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
There really needs to be an IQ test before anyone can run for office.
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I’d require a competency test over a birth certificate any day.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pmEven though the republicans have become a southern party, I would never generalize the people of those states as all thinking the same. It just doesn’t work that way. I know, I live in Ohio.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pmoh, and one more thing: in all of this debate, health care, stimulus, energy, and every other debate we’re likely to have over the next three years, the *real issue* is that the Constitution must be read to enable the Congress to pass laws for the general welfare of US citizens, not corporations, and until that is recognized, and corporations are barred from using their inherently disproportionate capital to influence legislation, every conversation, every debate will pit people against corporations, whether expressly or not.
that’s messed up.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pmI am wondering if there is some genetic difference that turns people into Republicans. Is there some resessive gene that turns people into cold hearted liars. Will at some future date the human race will split into two species kind of like the movie The Time Machine? I think it is possible, think about life married to a Republican, mixed marriages rarely work.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pmOK TP, that picture was just wrong. I can’t stop laughing and actually read the article.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pmOne of these days, I might test out my hypothesis that the more uninformed and ludicrous a member of Congress is, the more likely it is that that Congress member is not an attorney or has no other legal education. It seems to me that there was a time that most Congress members were lawyers and while there were ideological differences, there was less of this off-the-wall distortion of the Constitution and laws in general.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pmto her credit, she’s not as cross-eyed as that picture suggests. but she certainly has some synapses crossed.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pmWe the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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PURPOSE AND EFFECT OF THE PREAMBLE
Although the preamble is not a source of power for any department of the Federal Government, 1 the Supreme Court has often referred to it as evidence of the origin, scope, and purpose of the Constitution. 2 ”Its true office,” wrote Joseph Story in his COMMENTARIES, ”is to expound the nature and extent and application of the powers actually conferred by the Constitution, and not substantively to create them. For example, the preamble declares one object to be, ‘to provide for the common defense.’ No one can doubt that this does not enlarge the powers of Congress to pass any measures which they deem useful for the common defence. But suppose the terms of a given power admit of two constructions, the one more restrictive, the other more liberal, and each of them is consistent with the words, but is, and ought to be, governed by the intent of the power; if one could promote and the other defeat the common defence, ought not the former, upon the soundest principles of interpretation, to be adopted?” 3
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/preamble/
what kind of person willfully ignores “promote the general Welfare”…?
August 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pmor, at the least, misconstrues those words…?
What exactly was her appeal to her constituents? Can’t be deep thought. Novelty!?
August 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm“The federal government is trying to do too much……” Better that dear lady than spread ignorance.
PatrioticLiberalChristian says:
full disclosure, i’m a lawyer.
i do agree with you, though i don’t know if it has anything to do with lawyers being more reluctant to lie blatantly. problem is, as most lawyers should know, anything a senator or representative says on the floor of the house is privileged, that is, they can lie their asses off and you could never sue them for libel. oddly, my law school torts teacher made this point using Max Baucus, with whom he had grown up, long before this health care debate started.
i would be so in favor of a law that would strip that privilege where someone is obviously lying to influence public opinion, and knows it’s a lie. unfortunately, laws relating to what you can or can’t say are double-edged swords and usually work against us constitutionally.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pmVirginia Foxx [Barney Fife] and the Preamble to the Constitution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuPQgV8yBM
August 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pmPeople who say gov healthcare is unconstitutional are just plain stupid there is no other word. By their spurious logic, the highways, rural electrification, the CDC, small business loans, SS, Medicare, the internet, FDA, and so much more it would be booklength would ALL be unconstitutional and we would live in a third world country
August 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pmwatchdog says:
Just STFU you ignorant punkass troll. Your stupid derail the topic BS is WAY past its sell date. Either man up and discuss the topic or go away and let the adults talk
August 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pmA little O/T, I was driving my mother home this morning from an appiontment with her cardio doctor(she has medi-care)
August 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pmI was behind a car with a bumper sticker that read “dont blame me I didnt vote for socialism”
I had to catch up to the car and see who was driving.
The woman behind the wheel looked about the same age as my mother(68).By the looks of her car im sure she wasnt wealthy.
This woman most likely has medi-care and social security.
I would have liked to ask her who pays for her benefits.
Clueless im sure.
DRxJ,
(My apologies in advance, especially to PLC. It’s been a long week, and I’m in one goofy a$$ mood)
Doesn;t look anything like her, if it did I would move to NC…. :P
August 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm@katy -
The Preamble simply provides the ethical “why” for the specific “what” and “how” contained in the various ensuing Articles (to the extent of their specificity). It depresses me that so many people prefer endless arguing over the “what” and “how” while ignoring the essential contextual moral “why”.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm***
her crossed eyes are a
bit disconcerting.
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August 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pmImpress me Ms. Foxx….refuse your govt. health plan and then tell us what you’ll be doing. Maybe we’ll follow your good example. How did you vote on Congresses plan?
August 21st, 2009 at 4:02 pmWas it a “distraction/”
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#62,
andrew breitbart
gets schooled.
:)
he does so much better when he’s on red eye.
with his friends.
:)
August 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pmMcWars says
August 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I’d take a close look at her district, the place likely has more churches than clinics.
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It most likely does. Foxx represents the 5th district here in North Carolina, and it’s mostly rural area with a very conservative (and right-wing evangelical) population, many of whom have less education than the national (or even the state) average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina%27s_5th_congressional_district
There are some exceptions. Her district includes Boone, NC — home of Appalachian State University; a fine school. It also contains Kernersville — hardly rural; it’s a suburb of Winston-Salem and full of subdivisions (although W-S is pretty conservative politically, too). Worthy of note: it includes Mount Airy, the hometown of Andy Griffith, and the town the fictional Mayberry was modeled after. Of course, Mr. Griffith no longer lives there, and he routinely endorses Democrats, so it’s doubtful he’s ever supported Foxx.
Aren’t you the one who recently moved to Rocky Mount? If so, I think you either have Butterfield or Etheridge — either of whom is a far better rep than Foxx.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pmPerhaps Foxx should have channelled her inner Abe Lincoln and recalled this famous quote: “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
I would love to see Palin, Bachmann, and Foxx compete in a few rounds of the JayWalking All-Stars quiz game on Leno’s new show.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pmVirginia Foxx is 66 years old, and you can bet the farm that she’s now on Medicare…you know, that “socialist” program? It’s really a shame to see a highly educated person (Ph.D.) and ex-college professor make herself an idiot in order to appeal to the base of her political party. Much like McCain was willing to throw out his own sense of honor by allowing Palin to be selected as VP during the campaign.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pmDoes that mean you haven’t been voting, Ms Foxx???
August 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pmI’m sorry, but I would *personally* love to slap the sheet out of that idiotic beeyotch. She deserves it.
And yes, I *am* angry. And sick to death of flarking Repukes and their neverending torrent of UGLYSTOOPID.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pmThis lady is bat sh*t crazy and an embarrassment to the people of NC!
I agree. It’s just the same reaction as most Minnesotans have about Little Shelley (The Bimbo) Bachman.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pmIs that like a permanent hairnet crease?
August 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pmWiz: “I am wondering if there is some genetic difference that turns people into Republicans.”
Scandinavian long-term genetic studies showed many years ago that there is a gene for “the tendency to follow leaders blindly.” Also, I think it was a Princeton study a few years ago, around 2005, that showed a disproportionate number of people clinically diagnosed as “sociopathic” also identified themselves as “conservatives.”
August 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pmSend her back to planet XX!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pmIf she weren’t cross-eyed, she’d be able to actually read the dman, I mean damn bill and understand it!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pmAren’t you the one who recently moved to Rocky Mount? If so, I think you either have Butterfield or Etheridge — either of whom is a far better rep than Foxx.
Hi Miss Molly! I moved to Greenville, NC. I remember you let me in on Walt Jones, who, by an analysis I read somewhere, is down to a 57% conservative voting record. Nice return to earth from “freedom fries.” So he has moderated somewhat. Not sure about 2010 – he’s likely a keeper, at least in the general. Local repubs may take issue with him.
I am glad to hear that Andy endorses democrats!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm“Of course, Foxx doesn’t seem to have a problem with Medicare.”
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Foxx is probably one of the people who believe Medicare has nothing to do with the government.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm“Tell em Large Marge sent ya”…
August 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pmWho’s afraid of Virginia Foxx?
August 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pmSo I guess ms fox has no problem with the government abolishing medicare and the va, right?
August 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm.
Why does Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) think Americans don’t deserve affordable health care?
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August 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmSince our defense budget is as much as the rest of the fracking world combined, I’d say we were covering that defensee thingy pretty much, UnRepresentative Henhouse.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmMcWars says
August 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Hi Miss Molly! I moved to Greenville, NC.
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Ah, Greenville — not Rocky Mount! I knew it was somewhere east of me. And, of course, that does put you in the 3rd district with Walter Jones — along with a lot of beach communities and a ton of U.S. Marines (Camp Lejeune).
Yes, I’ve been watching Jones’ transformation, too. He’s been a bit more mavericky than most of the GOP.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmLuckily this wrinkled old hag won’t be in office much longer.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmYou know your NC, Miss Molly. No matter the red matter in this state, I simply love it too much. I was in Va. for 12 years and was excited to come back. Granted, the economy isn’t as resilient, but no place has been spared in this deep recession. Central NC has fared better- I may consider a move there at some point.
When I think of voting here for the first time, I think of getting rid of Burr. I hope we can do it.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmThis right-wing obsession with framing issues a la founding fathers is sad when the Republicans do it. The founders were on the cutting edge—they formed the most liberal state government ever made. Maintaining the status quo was not their first priority.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmwind dancer sez: Virginia Foxx is 66 years old. I say,Eeekkk!! I’m 66 and if that woman is 66, I’ll bet the farm–I look at least 20 years younger than that hag. My mother is 89 and even she looks younger than that! I think she needs some serious medical care…she looks ill!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmThat’s Michelle Bachmann & Sarah Palin few years from now, old, scary, angry and ignorant
August 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pmMike Hunt @4:41
That “wrinkled old hag” is 66, only three years older than Cher.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm(Sorry, I had to make that comparison.)
She could be in Washington another 30 years, if they let her.
Must of been a fly on her nose.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pmArticle 25 Section (1) of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which the US is a signator…
August 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pmhttp://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
be careful!
August 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pmshe’s armed with a wooden ruler and she knows how to use it!
WHACK!
That photo of her says everything I could.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pmThe US government is still torturing people, killing people overseas, occupying countries around the world, spying on everyone, and routinely violating their rights. But people aren’t so concerned about that right now. Why? Because of this so-called debate about health care. So, in a way, this dumb twat is right. It’s a big distraction from more pressing issues.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmIf she were so interested in following the constitution, maybe she should introduce a bill to actually declare war.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pmThey ARE all unconstitutional. The constitution is obsolete. Has been for a long time.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmFOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care. As you may know, the 10th amendment, it says if it isn’t mentioned in the Constitution to be done by the federal government, it’s left to the states or the people.
Then do away with Medicare and the VA and best of all the Congressional health plan…Don’t just talk the talk, but walk the walk…cowards…
August 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmHere’s Rep Foxx at her very best.
Fool me once…
August 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pmBTW, Virginia is old enough to be on Medicare. I wonder if she’s willing to sign over her checks to the hungry and homeless?
August 21st, 2009 at 5:25 pmShe’s wrong about the Constitution and she’s wrong about what “the people” want. I think it’s time for Ms. Foxx to STFU.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pmOh! That’s right. Is Ms. Foxx’s effed up Reichwing mind “the people” are wrong if they disagree with the voices in her head.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pmOf course it is ‘distraction’ to this Representative,because she is covered well, and her health bill is paid by US taxpayer.
Using the US Constitution as a bogus argument to make her point while ignoring the trillions of dollars the US government is spending every year which none of it is written or authorized in the few pages of the over 200 years Constitution.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmShe looks and sounds like Bachmann’s mentor.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pmsomeone needs to tell wonky eyed foxx the constitution also doesn’t mandate socialized medicine for either congressmen nor old farts, two groups to which she belongs. has she given up her “socialized medicine” benefits on moral grounds yet?
August 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pmWhile I agree entirely with the point of the post, I think it’s a little unfair to claim that Foxx and every other rethuglican voted against the amendment to kill Medicare.
The amendment is here: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090730/hr3200_weiner_1.pdf
And the vote results are here: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090730/hr3200_weiner_1_rc.pdf
Note that only some rethuglicans voted against the amendment– those that are members of the Energy and Commerce Committee. Foxx’s name doesn’t appear on the vote record.
Only rethuglicans who are members of the committe got the chance to vote against killing medicare. Given the chance, I’m sure most rethuglicans, if not all, would vote against that amendment; but to be honest only the members of the Energy and Commerce Committee did vote against it.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:03 pmThe people who read the Constitution literally are the same ones who take the Bible literally.
Foxx is one of the sorriest excuses for a Representative around.
Crazy like a … (literally)!
August 21st, 2009 at 6:04 pmoh god she’s my representative somebody please kill me nowwwwwwwww
August 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pmOkay, fine. Create a bill that makes it illegal to subsidize any private insurance, banks, wall street, big oil or bail out any financial, insurance, big oil or realty based industry.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:56 pmverskk says:
oh god she’s my representative somebody please kill me nowwwwwwwww
August 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Exactly how bad was the person running against her, that this stupid woman seemed the better option?
She’s awesome! (but not in a good way)
August 21st, 2009 at 7:02 pmThe FOXXX Lady has spoken.
August 21st, 2009 at 7:14 pmWhy is it that in order to be a female Republican you either have to be crazy, dumb as a post or just a really ugly human being?
August 21st, 2009 at 7:14 pmShe is right — just because you don’t have insurance does not mean you can’t get care– i don’t have health insurance, never have, and yet i’ve never been turned away, ever.
she is also right bout it not being in the constitution
August 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm.
Nothing like “Crazy like a Foxx”.
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August 21st, 2009 at 7:37 pmi aint you says:
August 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Getting the dead hamster dug out of your ass at the ER is not “health care.”
August 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pmi aint you says:
She is right — just because you don’t have insurance does not mean you can’t get care– i don’t have health insurance, never have, and yet i’ve never been turned away, ever.
Letting the emergency room bill you directly is incredibly expensive. A public option would be much, much cheaper for you than what you’ve been doing.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pmi aint you says:
she is also right bout it not being in the constitution
That’s from the Constitution of the United States of America: you are wrong. That has been posted in this page already: you are stupid.
Why would you be making claims about a document you’ve never read anyways?
August 21st, 2009 at 8:14 pmFOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care. As you may know, the 10th amendment, it says if it isn’t mentioned in the Constitution to be done by the federal government, it’s left to the states or the people. [...]
I think one of the problems we have in this country right now is the fact that the federal government is trying to do too much. We need to leave things to the states and the localities. … And unfortunately, we are distracting ourselves from looking after the defense of this nation because we are dealing with issues that should, by right, be the state and individual’s.
Finally someone who understands the U.S. Constitution.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pmCRAZY LIKE A FOXX
August 21st, 2009 at 8:56 pmYou should try that emergency room treatment with a debilitating chronic illness that requires regular care. They treat the symptoms and send you home. You never get better, and you get a huge bill, which you can’t pay. If you could, you would have had insurance in the first place.
Any idiot could understand that universal health insurance is in the interest of “the general wefare of the United States.” It’s easy to play it off as not being a big deal if you’ve never had to deal with the bills and the frustration of not getting the treatment you need, but the minimum that will get you by.
This is a situation that directly impacts my family and I do not see it as a political debate. It is a moral imperative. And if Christian Fascists can impose their morality on me, I can damn well impose mine on them.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:57 pmAfter I got a good look at her picture, I began to understand why she said what she said. I noticed a look of lunacy in her eyes. She’s not only a liar. She’s also clearly nuts. I would like to be queen of the world. I’d wave my magic wand and make her poor, homeless, without life or health insurance, and add an unwed pregnant 12 year old grandaughter whose pregnancy is the result of molestation. It would give her a real-life opportunity to do something else besides run her d@mn mouth spouting nonsense.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:58 pmQXXIX says:
Great point
August 21st, 2009 at 9:01 pmAlejandro says:
No they arent. It is plain stupid to say they are. No reasonable reading of the constitution can possibly be interpreted to say they are
August 21st, 2009 at 9:02 pmi aint you says:
She is wrong. You are a liar. You dont get CARE you get emergency treatment. As soon as you are stabalized their obligation is over. If you need ongoing care or something like a transplant and cant afford it you DIE. 158.000 Americans per year DIE of lack of access to healthcare it really isnt our fault you are too stupid to even understand the concepts being discussed here.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:04 pmkwsventures says:
You dont understand the constitution. YOu only understand what Rush TOLD you to think about the constitution. You are a moron. You are just stupid. It is not unconstitutional and only someone as stupid as you or Foxx would think it was
August 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pmkwsventures says:
No wonder why your a confused foolish repug.
Foxx doesn’t understand the US Constitution no more than Cheney went over and beyond the US Constitution.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:08 pmkwsventures says:
Finally someone who understands the U.S. Constitution.
That’s from the Constitution of the United States of America: you are wrong. That has been posted in this page twice already: you are stupid.
Why would you be making claims about a document you’ve never read anyways?
August 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pmWhat does “provide for….the general welfare” mean to Foxx. Can she come up with an example or is that just quaint language to Foxx. The interesting thing about the Bill of Rights is that it carves out specific roles that for the most part prohibit both the Congress and the States from controlling certain behavior. Only when you get to the final Amendment do we see language saying the States have jurisdiction on matters not spelled out in the Constitution. Since the language is ofter vague we have the Supreme Court to finally determine compliance with the Constitution.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:28 pmIf you want to get the crap scared out of you, go to this web site and get on their mail list.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:41 pmhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/ In particular ” The death of Democracy”
My bad. The website is: http://www.globalresearch.ca/
The article is “Global War and Dying Democracy”. Scary stuff.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:51 pmYou REFUSED to vote for a repeal of Medicare and Social Security about two weeks ago – Mrs. Foxx, you are either a LIAR and a fool or more generously a hypocrite. Most likely, both.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:56 pmSo, if she’s against federal government incursions into health-care, then she’ll STFU when her party attempts to federally trample on and further restrict reproductive rights…
Affordable, quality health-care should not be state-dependent. ALL Americans, rich or poor, deserve to be on the same level playing field where their health-care is concerned. What state they live in should have absolutely no impact in the debate.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pmThey don’t give chemo in emergency rooms.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:14 pmLet me expand that just a little bit:
The first bolded part authorizes Congress to provide for the general welfare. The second bolded part authorizes Congress to regulate interstate commerce. Health care falls under both of these provisions. Thus, one could say that Congress is doubly authorized by the Constitution to establish a health care system.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pmShe looks like Saul Rubinek (Lee Donowitz) in drag.
August 21st, 2009 at 11:19 pm“Where’s your hall pass!”
A little more rouge and bluer hair would make her the spitting image
August 21st, 2009 at 11:28 pmof my junior high dean of girls.
Foxx, Bachman, Palin, Coulter all have something in common.
That in common is NOT common sense.
If they speak for you, If they represent you best.
You must be a pathetic degenerate.
August 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 amRepublicans act like they are trying out for the Jerry Springer show. Each one tries to be more ignorant than the other one.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 amThese greedy people are disgusting.
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 amWhen I see her speaking I always imagine her concludeing her remarks with, “I’ll get you and your little dog too, my pretty!”
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 amIf Satan were a woman, he would be Virginia Foxx. Nuff said…
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 amcaption…
“What are you doing over there with that plug?!!!”
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pmPhoto Caption: The deranged, unwise old owl says, “Hoot.”
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pmVirginia Foxx is another Zionist nut-job who needs to be removed from office.
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pmWhen the people who are unemployed and uninsured in her state vote her out of office then she will realize it is a real issue.
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:15 pmSo why is it when Michelle Bachmann speaks, nobody blames all Northerners?
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pmMy husband spent years telling me I couldn’t be correct when I told him some of the comments coming from Republicans. Since the last election, his eyes have been opened. Now he just can’t believe there are people who are allowed to vote who are so dumb and uninformed that the will keep electing Republicans who constently embarrass themselve in public with lies and stupidity. They can’t just let folks think they are dumb as hair, they have to keep proving it by opening their mouths.
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmLook at the picture of this woman and tell me honestly if you think she looks as though she could be insane.
August 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmJimT says:
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So why is it when Michelle Bachmann speaks, nobody blames all Northerners?
August 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm===========================================================
Because Michelle sounds like a reichwing southerner.
Fixing health care sure seems like “providing for the general welfare”. They probably think social security, medicare, and public schools are unconstitutional. What about providing safe foods and drugs, that isn’t in the constitution either, but sounds like general welfare. Do you think they would go along with providing roads, bridges, airports, their not in the consitution? What about clean water, or do they think were suppose to go down to the creek with a bucket, government spends money on that, but not in the constitution.
Actually if you were to really able to get a real conservative to tell what the really think and ask if the Government should be doing the things mentioned above the honest answer would be no, not even build roads. These people are not as rare as you might think. Of course even though I vote Democratic and am proud to say I have never voted for a Republican, if there was a viable Socialist party around… wait a minute, forget that last part.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmFoxx is right that the Constitution never explicitly says the words “health care.”
Oops!
If health care is a right, then the demos need to get the 2/3 vote of the states to make it an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Until then, forget it. It is not a right, entitlement or anything else you want to call it.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:45 pmFOXX: The Constitution doesn’t grant a right to health care, and most of us are living as much by the Constitution as we can. It also doesn’t give the federal government the authority to deal with health care. As you may know, the 10th amendment, it says if it isn’t mentioned in the Constitution to be done by the federal government, it’s left to the states or the people. [...]
I think one of the problems we have in this country right now is the fact that the federal government is trying to do too much. We need to leave things to the states and the localities. … And unfortunately, we are distracting ourselves from looking after the defense of this nation because we are dealing with issues that should, by right, be the state and individual’s.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmFinally someone who understands the U.S. Constitution.
Skyler says:
Affordable, quality health-care should not be state-dependent. ALL Americans, rich or poor, deserve to be on the same level playing field where their health-care is concerned. What state they live in should have absolutely no impact in the debate.
Really? Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say you deserve health care? You need a 2/3 vote of the States to add this amendment to the constitution. Sorry.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pmLeaving stuff to the states is one thing, but states may not do things that do not support the general welfare, when states do not support the general welfare the Federal Government must step in. There are examples of this in the areas of education, civil and voting rights, public safety and the environment. States are subject to the US Constitution as well.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:55 pmGeneral Welfare? Please …
General welfare = health care? Nice leap of faith. I can think of many things more important to your “general welfare”.By the same thinking, I need a guaranteed job for money. I need a car to get to the job. I need clothes to wear. I need food to eat. I need shelter to live in? Does this stuff fall under “general welfare” too?
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pmLook at me! Look at meeeeee!
I’m bat-shit crazy…
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 pmFoxx is vile. The End. Someone…please….cue the Death Panel ’cause we got a live one here!
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pmDespicable is the only word I can find to refer, politely, to this woman. Well, venal comes to mind, too. As a native of NC, I’m just appalled. Of course, we took care of Libby in the last election.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 pmkwsventures says:
Why do you bother. You KNOW you are too stupid to understand these concepts. They farther above your head than quantum mechnics is over the head of a gerbil. You are STUPID. What general wellfare means is a democratic decision. Only someone as completely braindead as YOU would think if it werent specifically mentioned in the constitution then it would be unconstitutional. By that reasoning we could have no, highways, CDC, small business loans, Air force, FBI, water treatment plants, sewers, public education, etc, etc. You are unbelievably stupid.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm