CIA report reveals interrogator threatened to kill detainee’s children.
CIA report reveals interrogator threatened to kill detainee’s children.
A 2004 CIA Inspector General report reveals that interrogators threatened to kill the children and sexually assault the mother of a key terror suspect. The report, which examined the CIA’s treatment of terror detainees, has now been partly declassified as a result of a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union:
The document, released Monday by the Justice Department, says one interrogator said a colleague had told Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that if any other attacks happened in the United States, “We’re going to kill your children.”
Another interrogator allegedly tried to convince a different terror suspect detainee that his mother would be sexually assaulted in front of him – though the interrogator in question denied making such a threat.
Attorney General Eric Holder will appoint a prosecutor to decide whether anti-torture laws were broken in prisoner abuse cases involving CIA interrogators and contractors. Holder will reportedly name John Durham to lead the inquiry. Durham is a career Justice Department prosecutor from Connecticut.
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The bush-cheney crime family will do anything to defeat and defraud government.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pmThank goodness that this report has now seen the light of day. This is not about whether we look backward or look forward. This is about regaining our integrity as a nation.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pmA special prosecutor to investigate these “outliers” will hopefully bring us to the true point – they weren’t really “outliers”. They were operating on orders by those who have been “out lying” to the American people. Then, perhaps, there will be the will to investigate and prosecute those who gave the command, as high as the chain goes.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pmShaking my head it sounds like they were believing that 24 show is how things are done. lets face it 9/11 happen and Cheney and bush along with the rest of the gang that couldn’t shoot straight just out right PANICKED and crapped they collective pants and never regain control of there bowels from that point on.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmThis is about stopping the cycle of torture and violence that bush-cheney unleashed.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmwatchdog, flagged and voted down. Off topic and your apathy about the topic shows what beasts you people are. And they wonder why we’re no longer always proud to be Americans.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmThis is how they prosecuted mafia guys too. Start with the little guys and let them rat out the big guys.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pmLeon Panetta is a complete disgrace.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pm“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
August 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pm-George Santayana-
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What was the timeline of Cheney’s “missing” e-mails? Does it coincide with the CIA gaining approval from “up above” to destroy interrogation tapes?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pmIf we knew there was a bomb at the school then what answer would we be trying to get through torture. There isn’t ONE CASE that Cheney could legitimately point to where anybody was protected from anything. It is because people like you are so stupid and believe anything that the Bush Crime Family was allowed to bring this country to it’s knees.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pmaaronk says:
Well, since I don’t live in the imaginary world of “24″, I’m not sure how I’d react.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmGo change your pants aaronk, there’s piss dripping out all over your Mom’s basement floor.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmYeah, watchpuppy. Our common enemy are the neocons of this world of which you are but one subserviant bootlicker. Our entire country is unraveling into one big chaotic mess and the only way to move forward is to clean it up by prosecuting anyone and everyone responsible!
But, you go ahead and continue to worship these barbarians. BTW, watchpuppy, why aren’t you in Afghanistan killing women and children? They’re the enemy, right? The only ‘enemies’ I have are the bubble people like you that refuse to differentiate between fantasy and reality.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:13 pmThose who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
-George Santayana-
August 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Anticipating the illustrious Santayana, half-a-century, Mark Twain observed “the past does not repeat itself, but it rhymes.”
August 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmYou’re not really familiar with the concept “Rule of Law”, are you, aaronk?
Generally, societies don’t establish legal principles based on hysterical extreme hypotheticals sprung from the fevered minds of the writers of TV action series.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmDid they threaten the children before or after abusing them?
“Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay?” Hersh said. “The women were passing messages out saying, ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened,’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst, above all, of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.” In another speech, quoted by Rick Pearlstein, Hersh spoke of “horrible things done to children of women prisoners, as the cameras run.”
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=26434
August 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pmIn the “real-Politik” world inhabited (and created) by these guys, a reputation for torturing its opponents is not a bad thing for an Empire to have, even–mebbe especially–an Empire in decline…
August 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pmI didn’t like Panetta’s answer, except that he has a job to do, and he might want to let someone else investigate past crimes for him. As long as someone is doing it that is…
Hopefully most of the CIA is not involved and it can otherwise go on more or less as usual.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pmWhat, no birthers on this thread? I’m waiting for “it doesn’t matter because Obama’s not american.”
August 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pmaaronk says: #11
Because the suspect being interrogated would simply lie and say it’s in another school. And while the police are searching that school the suspect named the bomb would go off in the original one. Your argument is a piece of shit!
Only psychopaths blow up people for the thrill of it. So called “terrorists” blow things up generally because they’re frustrated. Just like the christians here do because abortions are still legal.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:20 pmCIA Director Leon Panetta, who has reportedly been engaged in an angry confrontation with the White House over this issue, called the release of the inspector general’s report on abuses “an old story” and said “the challenge is not the battles of yesterday, but those of today and tomorrow.”
“Why are you people worries about whether or not I raped my neighbor’s daughter? That’s an old story. Let’s look to the future!”
August 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmaaronk says: same stupid stuff
Rather than waste time and energy on torture, why not send as many people as possible to evacuate the school. If you know there is a bomb there, what else do you need to know?
I really wish these simple people would watch cartoons instead of “24″. Of course, they probably would just think that you can jump off a cliff, like Willey Coyote, and still live and they might…try…it…themselves. Yeah, I’m going with the cartoons over “24″.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmRemember when the torture thing came out, and the Repubs tried to dismiss it as fraternity hazing? These people walk among us.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmWasn’t it the rightwing who used to accuse the Left of “situational ethics”?
Funny how that shit comes around, init?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pm…we’ve got us some real pervs in this country. They love doing this stuff…and all in the name of country, flag and mom’s homemade apple pie.
It should be enough to make good people vomit.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmLeon Panetta needs to take a few downers before he blows an artery or something. If he was as good as we thought he was going to be he would welcome the oversight so that the bad apples in his organization are exposed and removed. Instead he is acting like a Bush-cabal criminal trying to cover his Cheney. I hope Holder gets enough small fry to start talking that we find out that the orders for these horrific crimes came from Cheney and Rove and those two hyenas are finally put in prison where they belong.
And to the troll above who asked the ridiculous question about kids in schools and torture…..we used to be a nation of laws. There are laws against torturing someone. Republicans such as yourself do not understand that concept. Perhaps you would be happier watching Faux “News” or listening to Rush than trying to outwit people in here?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
watchdog says:
Remember the CIA under the Bush administration? Remember when we all had a common enemy?
Yeah, the common enemy was the Bush Administration.
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aaronk says:
If any of you guys had kids at a school with a bomb in it, and harsh interrogation could save his/her life, how would you feel about it then?
If you had a kid at school with a bomb in it, and raping a bunch of babies could save his/her life, how would you feel about mass baby rape then?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pmWhy not evacuate the school?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pmwatchdog, despite your probable sarcastic tone, you are more than likely correct. Interrogations done with respect and with the intent of really socially engaging the detainee has produced the most and the most important information.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmPresident Obama, General Holder, Director Panetta,
War Crimes were committed at the behest of President Bush and Vice President Cheney. There is sufficient evidence to conclude that. Your job, whether you like it or not, is to prosecute those responsible. If that means that a former president and vice president must face charges for their crimes, then so be it. You all took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and that means prosecuting those who violate it. If you do not prosecute, then the oaths you each took upon entering your offices mean nothing, and no one will ever believe a word you say ever again.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmwatchdog says:
Terrorists should be raped and have their children killed.
That seems kind of like a harsh penalty just for threatening to kill the President and various congressmen, but have it your way. The sodomy squad will pick you up tomorrow between 8 and 12.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmAh, yes, the fallacy of the excluded middle.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmwatchdog says:
aaronk says:
If any of you guys had kids at a school with a bomb in it, and harsh interrogation could save his/her life, how would you feel about it then?
We need to fight terrorist with compassion. If we respect them they will respect us and divulge all the information we need. The world is not as cruel as the Republicans and the TV show 24 portray it.
Thats why both of you can not even understand what counterterism is or how its done. Its is 100% proven you do not gain any worry Intel from acts like this. you get Intel that helps you continue this very un-useful Technics.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmBut i am sure that you can figure things out only if they place it in episode 20 or so.
Ok, didn’t see that part.
Yes, it’s “old” but since nothing, apparently, has been done about it, there needs to be more attention paid to it.
I guess when someone burns down Panetta’s house and kills his family, then admits it a few years later, Panetta will just say “That’s ok. It’s the past. We need to look to the future now. “
August 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pmUh, I’m so confused…who are the bad guys again?
And why are they not going after the people who gave the orders for this kind of stuff?
Oh, that’s right, it would pissoff the republicans who worshipped Bush and Cheney.
…afterall, they are GODs, right?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmOh yeah. What do you think all the psychological testing is about? To find the psychopaths who enjoy doing stuff like this.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmOh, Panetta’s not pleased about this report at all! But fcuk that guy.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmLooks like Panetta has eliminated himself as being impartial. Hopefully he doesn’t become a hostile witness to the state, but that’s the message he’s sending at this point.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmWatchdog, you simplistic putz. We are a nation of laws. We stand strongest when we all adhere to these laws. These torture tactics used are not within the laws that we Americans stand for.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmaaronk says:
August 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIf any of you guys had kids at a school with a bomb in it, and harsh interrogation could save his/her life, how would you feel about it then?
We have already seen this his name was Tim McVeigh and he was a homegrown terroirst.
Wow, it is about time. We need to have Bush and Cheney and the whole CIA under them brought up on trial. All of them should be locked away for life. Heck, let’s arrest all their twisted repug supporters too and throw them in prison too. They are all just stupid, vile, and evil and this whole blind eye to torture thing has gone on too long without vengeance. Penetta needs to clean house! Go Eric Holder! Let’s lock away all those town hall meeting idiots too. Bigots and fascists! And let’s drop those stupid birthers and deathers in the ocean while we’re at it. They aren’t welcome here any more. Line Black Water and those C street goons up next.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmOhh Ohh! Hypotheticals! I loves me some hypotheticals.
Had there been an ultra super-infection bacteria that was about to become pandemic and kill hundreds of thousands, would this particular detainee give the nomenclature and structural chemical makeup of the genome in question after having his children threatened?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:34 pmIncluding Panetta, of course, who appears to be obstructing justice.
Ha ha! I’m sure he’ll get right on that.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:34 pmPaladinofPeace
Your username is a paradox as is your post.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmDo you think the CIA is irreparable?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmOr should the paint be stripped and sanded first?
Or should the CIA be replaced?
The truth takes care of itself and it never stays buried forever. Obama better keep that in mind and stop interfering in criminal prosecutions.
Yeah, whatever. The CIA has already destroyed a number of interrogations despite being ordered by a judge not to. This is an amoral agency that has farmed out torture and rape to third-party contractors and it needs to have it’s budget slashed to the bone. Any remaining detainee prosecutions should be handed over in full to the FBI.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pmI just wish the hard drives from Cheneys PC could be found?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pm52 bzb says:
The FBI should lock up cheney’s offices and search his homes, before he does something foolish.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
aaronk might want to familiarize himself with some of the reasons that the “ticking time bomb” scenario is fallacious. He could start with The Myth of the Ticking Time Bomb, then maybe The “Ticking Timebomb” Fallacy. Of course, anybody who gets their ideas about foreign policy and psychology from fictional TV dramas such as 24 is unlikely to be interested in reading — too many words.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmThis is the kind of vile, inhuman behavior that resulted from the Bush administration, and now the Repubs are calling US Nazis?!
riiight….
August 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pm54 Newman says
everybody can walk and chew gum
August 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmNewman, we’re not republicans. We can do more than one thing at a time.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmIf A. G. Holder needs John Durham to explain to him if any laws were broken, then I fear Holder is not the man we hoped he was.
I could explain it to him in five minutes, something to do with the Geneva Convention…
August 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pmWhat’s your point, Newman? Should this report be ignored in favor of the tired story of obstructionism from the Right?
Don’t you think we can focus on more than one story on the Left?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmwatchdog calls it pacifiers, we call it evidence.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pmAlejandro says:
I guess when someone burns down Panetta’s house and kills his family, then admits it a few years later, Panetta will just say “That’s ok. It’s the past. We need to look to the future now.
LOL well more then likely that would be done by the right wing nut job wacko want to be`s
But if you try you can acully pull your head out of the 4th point of contact, and well the real world is so much better place. went you dont have to eat and breath that butt jam from your friends rushbuttbo and humanity and becky.
So that loud pop we hear is yo and watchdog pull your head out
if you need help let us know OK
we will help honestly
August 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pmWatchdog, is the pay per post income from the RNC making the house payment?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pm55 ForknTorch says:
They learned a new word from the rest of us – fascism. The irony of the reverso-world Regipizan Crime Party is thick.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmHas watchpoop subcontracted out his trolling to someone just as stupid, but more mean-spirited?
That familiar goofy watchpoopy blather has a different tone today.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmWatchPUNK you are nothing but an ignorant punkass troll. Just STFU you have never once made a single post that wasnt pure trollshit
August 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pmCIA report reveals interrogator threatened to kill detainee’s children.
– - WWJ*D?
* Jack, as in ‘Bauer.’
August 24th, 2009 at 3:47 pmrepublican mentality = life is cruel, why fight it?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:47 pmAlmost 70 million people voted for President Obama. The right wing nuts are praying for and inciting people to assasinate him. What will happen to the country if these hateful racists succeed. It is safe to say that the country would be thrown into an uncontrollable chaos. Perhaps we need to round up these incendiary types and start the interrogations just to be on the safe side. Watchpoo, you wanna go first?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmHey, TAPEWORM (my new name for WatchBlob)
Don’t you have a couple dozen double quarter pounders with cheese to choke on?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmor maybe
republican mentality = life is cruel, we’ve found our nich.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmhey watchpoop,
August 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmis threatening to kill someone’s kids covered under the heading “winning their hearts and minds”?
The sorry depths to which our nation has sunk are the direct result of repiggie rule and control.
We need to reverse course, and an official inquiry would be a good first step.
Screw the repiggies, and screw the teabagger trash.
We cannot surrender our destiny to a noxious mob.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmaaronk says:
Yeah ticking bomb scenario the all purpose exuse for the inexcusable. Can you show that has ever happened in the history of the world? IF you know enough to KNOW for sure that someone can tell you about a bomb you know enough to investigate and find it on your own. This stuff is evil the fact you are willing to have America sell all its ethics and values down the toilet because of a MAYBE scenario shows you are a worthless coward who shames and embarasses all decent Americans.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWho wants their kids playing with the trolls kids?
August 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmOh yeah, they released it for political reasons in August 09. Are you drunk? Besides you’re thinking of Republicans that do everyting for political reasons like spending hundreds of millions investigating oral sex among consenting adults to keep a president who might accomplish something from doing so. That way they could put in their guy who could end up phu(king us all. Idiot.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmPaladinofPeace says:
Bite me you ignorant astonishingly stupid false flag troll.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmWhat about the 89 that were reported by the Red Cross that were tortured to death?
Guess they don’t count now that they are dead.
Bush/Cheney and gang deserve prison, real long prison term, really, really long prison terms.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:56 pmNutWrench says:
The truth takes care of itself and it never stays buried forever
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REALLY? I mean I WISH this were true but REALLY? Who killed Kennedy again? I heard the first draft of the Warren Report said he was kiled by a drunk driver
August 24th, 2009 at 3:56 pmhey watchpoop,
August 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pmi got a leftwing pacifier for you…wanna see?
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THIS STORY is why Cheney & his vile daughter were all over the media for what seemed like months.
He knows damn well that if the truth ever emerges, he’ll be in a cell faster than Glenn Beck can lose a corporate sponsor.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pmwatchdog says:
We need to fight terrorist with compassion. If we respect them they will respect us and divulge all the information we need. The world is not as cruel as the Republicans and the TV show 24 portray it.
August 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
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I know you were being sarcastic, but this is actually correct. Respect works. Torture doesn’t.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pmWatchdog and the like shouldn’t be so quick to bunch their tighty righty whitey’s in a bind over healthcare just yet. With the blow hards having a free pass while congress isn’t in session they’ve proven to be alarmists over nothing.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmTell me kronk, if you knew some kid at your child’s high school was could easily steal an automatic weapon from his home and shoot up your kids classroom would you outlaw automatic weapons?
August 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pmOf all the callous, vicious, evil, disgusting things. Oh but wait, this is the Bush crime regime, so it’s par for the course.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pmSo basically, you’re defending torture.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pmHey watchdog – if your kids were sick, and the only way you could get a doctor to save their lives was to have the government pay for it, would you support a public option?
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Newman says:
Ahhh, a little red meat for the DU, KOS, TP base. What health care debacle?
It isn’t a debacle, unless you’re referring to the current state of health care in the country, in which case there’s some legislation being considered to fix that.
However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the timing of this report didn’t have something to do with the fact that Congress is discussing the health care bill at present.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmThe CIA is another rotten side-effect of the Cold War.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pmThe truth has emerged, over and over again. These people will never be prosecuted. I’ll be very surprised if there is any investigation beyond some window dressing.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmAlejandro, can you please explain how you got “basically, you’re defending torture” out of pilotshark’s comment?
On second thought, don’t. I don’t want to have to try to decipher your twisted pseudo-logic on that one.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWhy is this getting voted down? EugeneDebs makes a nutty statement about seeing the “first draft of the Warren commission.” That quote comes straight from the movie “Wag the Dog.” If he was being serious than it’s easy enough to refute: Hundreds of people witnessed Kennedy’s assassination in person and even without the Zapbruder film it would have been impossible to hand wave it away as a “drunk driver accident.”
August 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmNutWrench says:
Ah Wag the Dog is a comedy that is only FUNNY because of the REALITY in it. For instance who DID kill Kennedy again? DUH
August 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pmWe kept it secret so we wouldn’t be accountable.
Now that we know about it, it is “old hat” and therefore shouldn’t be looked at.
Try telling that to the judge. I couldn’t even get that story past my parents.
August 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pmNutWrench says:
93 You are a JOKE. Of COURSE Wag the Dog is comedy citing Wag the Dog was the POINT. Did you think I was trying to pass it off as my own? Nothing nutty about the comment unless you are too STUPID TO GET THE ORIGINAL JOKE. You didnt rebut ANYTHING. The point ISNT that you were supposed to take the drunk driver part seriously, citing wag the dog was bringing up the original joke that the government passed off a trasparent lie as silly as IF they had said he was killed by a drunk driver. What is REFUTED is your claim that the truth never stays burried forever unless you can tell me who REALLY killed Kennedy. Knowing something is a lie isnt the same as knowing the actual truth
August 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pm*ahem*
August 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pmThat clears up the question DOES THE US TORTURE/RAPE WOMAN AND CHILDREN. This has been long known by those overseas and in the Military but Americans continued to believe the lies told by the White House/Media and Press. What does this tell the World about the United States Human Rights Policy. I cried when I read the report of how our US tortured and raped detainees wives and children. Just think what the US would say if this was done to an American woman/child? I know many will justify the conduct done to these detainees as Satan always has a way of excusing the horror done. We have to now deal with the proof THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DOES TORTURE/RAPE WOMAN AND CHILDREN.
August 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pmJackie,
Please, say it isn’t so.
August 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmI got the joke as soon as you made it. As your blustering and typing in CAPS clearly indicates, you didn’t even realize it was a joke until I pointed it out to you.
August 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pmNutWrench says:
Oh my GOD. You are fantastically stupid. So you RECOGNIZED it as a joke but I didnt think it was a joke even though I made it? Please tell me you are kidding. Even the trolls arent usually that stupid. I made a reference to a famous political satire that YOU thought should be taken literally and I AM the one that doesnt get it? Snivelling about how I capatalize certain words for emphasis makes SUCH a cogent point. IF your object is to give us a free clown show.
August 24th, 2009 at 5:31 pmIt is to early yet to hope that America will be returned to a nation of laws any time soon. Holder appointed Durham to make a recommendation. While this is good news, I won’t get hopeful because this is just a baby step in the right direction.
We will see how long it takes before Durham will make his recommendation, and we get to see if Durham’s recommendation is what we already know it must be, and then we get to see if Holder will actually follow that recommendation.
I hate to agree with watchdog, but this is just a crumb to appease the slavering hoard of angry Americans that actually want to see a little justice. I am not disrespecting the slavering hoard of angry Americans at all, because I am one of them.
Every day Durham and Holder delay is unacceptable. Start with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove on torture, then spread out into the C-Street crime syndicate, and arrest as many of these criminals as necessary, no matter how loudly they scream. If you have to arrest every Republican in the Congress and the Senate, then do so. If you have to arrest every Republican that organizes for them, then do so. If you have to arrest every Republican pundit, do it. If you have to arrest every tea-bagger and deather, do it.
Time to take out the trash.
August 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmI sure as hell don’t agree with the President’s or Panetta’s comments, but if those comments demonstrate anything besides a lack of understanding that failure to provide accountability guarantees repeat offenses, it’s that the justice dept. is back to being an independent body. Nobody’s in on it; the president and his agencies can no longer treat the justice dept. as just another federal department; the dept. can no longer be used as a political arm that works for the president’s agenda.
August 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pmSo the CIA = child-killers?
August 24th, 2009 at 7:06 pmHope they can all sleep at night. Disgusting. Please let at least a few CIA staff find this story as repugnant & horrific as I do. And who are the terrorists again?
…this just in…
August 24th, 2009 at 8:12 pmThe bush-cheney-false-flag alert has been raised from yellow to amber.
The republicans-using-terror-as-political-weapon-alert has been raised from amber to red.
The republicans-falsifying-information-alert is raised from amber to red.
..and finally,
The bush-cheny-republicans-defrauding-the-government-alert has been raised from amber to red.
That is all…
Power drills used to threaten detainees:
There were reports four or five years ago coming out of Iraq that bodies were being dumped on the streets of Baghdad, bodies showing signs of torture, including drill holes in their knee caps and skulls.
Just wondering if any of these dead, tortured detainees were in CIA (or private contractor) hands before being dumped?
August 24th, 2009 at 9:02 pmBy covering up the crimes of his predecessors, Leon Panetta is complicit in those crimes. If he had a soul, he would allow those who have committed crimes against humanity to be brought to justice.
August 24th, 2009 at 9:17 pmSorry to say Rich it’s all true and there are more horror to come as time goes on.
August 24th, 2009 at 9:33 pm.
Why…
… Of course it’s not terrorism when the USA does it, YES?
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August 25th, 2009 at 12:56 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
What kind of terrorist uses threats of terrorism against a population…?
… REPUBLICANS during the 2004 election!!!
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August 25th, 2009 at 1:02 am.
So,
Making those that followed the orders, immune from prosecution was indicative of a program that, at it’s best, walked a very, VERY fine line, NO? And in many instances, even aspects of the “orders given” WERE illegal from the get go because they were made illegal in the past.
We shouldn’t JUST be talking about those that failed to follow the letter of the order given. Doing so forgoes the larger question; The root of the evil, itself.
What about the people who authored, signed off and authorized illegal interrogation methods. Some, of which, lines were blurred and PEOPLE DIED!
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August 25th, 2009 at 2:22 amwizard2000 says:
There were reports four or five years ago coming out of Iraq that bodies were being dumped on the streets of Baghdad, bodies showing signs of torture, including drill holes in their knee caps and skulls.
I recall that these were blamed on Iraqi militias and insurgent groups, mostly in Sunni vs. Shia violence (or vice versa).
I’m not so sure any more.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:27 amvery thanks for article!
August 30th, 2009 at 9:18 am