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Angry right boos John McCain for stating that Obama ‘respects the Constitution of the United States.’

Today in a town hall forum in Arizona, an elderly woman asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) whether President Obama knows “that we still live under a Constitution.” To his credit, McCain distanced himself from the questioner’s claim, saying “I’m sure that he does.” He then added that Obama “respects the Constitution of the United States,” at which point the crowd broke out in loud boos. But McCain stood firm, explaining that there’s just a “fundamental difference in philosophy and about the role of government.” “I am convinced the president is absolutely sincere in his beliefs,” he said, again eliciting boos and jeers from the crowd. Watch it:

“He is the president of the United States and let’s be respectful,” McCain said in closing. That statement was met with light applause from the crowd.



218 Responses to “Angry right boos John McCain for stating that Obama ‘respects the Constitution of the United States.’”

  1. spearNmagicHelmet says:

    oh, is there a problem turning off the GOP hate spigot?

    nobody could have imagined…


  2. evangenital says:

    Dr. Frankenstein, meet your monster.


  3. Virtual Pebble says:

    Found some unreconstructed racists there, John-boy?


  4. Jim Wolf359 says:

    The GNOP ginned up this fear and hate of the President. And now, there is no way for them to dial it back. The beastie has a life of its own. The best way for Obama and the Democrats to handle this is to make the GOP own this and absolutly tar them with it.


  5. tombaker says:

    Old White People From Arizona Hate Them Some Black President.

    “Does that bluehaired old bat know that her President is a Constitutional Law Scholar?”

    No – she just knows he’s black, and therefore she hates him and would make up anything to cover for her race-hate.

    i kinda pity ol’ jonnymac – at least he’s trying to hang on to some kind of scrap of decency.


  6. kwsventures says:

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  7. Virtual Pebble says:

    Or maybe they’re just unreconstructed idiots that think the sky is falling because a little Johnnybird and his shitbird pals have been whispering nasty crap in their ears.

    Don’t worry, it’s just John McSlime out there trying to reap the whirlwind…


  8. Uncle Ho says:

    Did that raging Granny understand that under chimpy, that the Constitution of the United States was toilet paper?

    Didn’t think so.


  9. AlphaLiberal says:

    Listen to these people. They will sully, smear and attack any President who is not from their party. They are dishonest and willingly deceived.


  10. conservative guy says:

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  11. Virtual Pebble says:

    8. conguy – what’s your fracking evidence? Lets have some chapter and verse here, conguy.

    PROVE IT.


  12. 00mpp00 says:

    There is little doubt that the GOP has an image problem when these kooks complaining Obama is an “illegal” president are all that is out there as far as dialogue from the party is concerned.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/


  13. Jackie says:

    Clear example of how little some Americans know about the United States Constitution as Barack Obama taught Constitutional Law at Harvard U. Time to bring out School House Rock for adults.


  14. Uncle Ho says:

    conservative guy says:

    See my previous post.

    You are a fool to be lead by fools.


  15. spearNmagicHelmet says:

    conservative guy

    i know you are but what am i?


  16. Pilotshark says:

    Poor old johnny ray >>>> and he dosnt realize that went he still backs palin that he is still harboring this hate from there side


  17. blackwidow says:

    Poor John, he helped create this stupid and has no idea how to turn it off.

    Interesting TH, with some good questions, lousy answers and a whole bunch of selfish fearful old people.
    McCain did not answer the lady who pointed out that most of the folks in the audience had gov’t run health care and that HE had benefited from gov’t run health care most of his life.
    “so what is wrong with gov’t run health care?”
    crickets from McCain.

    I think he may have also cherry picked the quote from the Mayo clinic out of context…..


  18. Above the Clouds says:

    One would think McCain should have learned by now NOT to give the mic to his followers.


  19. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    it’s an old story,

    the monster eats frankenstein.

    :0

    (belch!)

    :|


  20. ElBruce says:

    kwsventures says:

    Obama might “respect” the constitution. But that doesn’t mean he likes the constitution.

    He likes it better than you do, filthy traitor. He taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, so I think he knows a thing or two about it.

    .

    conservative guy says:

    Obama has been trashing the constitution since he took office.

    No he hasn’t. Provide supporting evidence for your claim, please.


  21. Bob says:

    There’s been about 3-5% change from before, personally not nearly enough. I don’t think anyone asking if Obama realizes the Constitution is still valid has read it. Really, what are they crying about when it’s not so different now than six months ago?

    Aside from not prosecuting war crimes, at least doing something about torture, how has the Constitution been violated by Obama?


  22. hormiga brava chavez says:

    I wonder if that old biddy has actually read any part of the Constitution?!

    It’s good to see McCain on the receiving end of the crazies booing and ignorance! I hope the Rethugs suffer the consequences for stirring up these nutjobs who refuse to be reasoned with.


  23. Richard Stallman says:

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  24. Uncle Ho says:

    kswsventures says;

    Try this out for size:

    I don’t respect you, nor do I like you.

    sacr off.


  25. joe cantwell says:

  26. Uncle Ho says:

    Richard says:

    Obviously, you choose to remain willfully ignorant as opposed to becoming enlightened.

    Ignorant boob!


  27. bzb says:

    kwsventures says:
    Obama might “respect” the constitution. But that doesn’t mean he likes the constitution. You can respect someone, but not like them.

    Cheney didn’t “respect” the Constitution. Which means he didn’t like the Constitution. I don’t respect Cheney nor do I like him.

    There it’s fixed.


  28. blackwidow says:

    Or there was the crazy blond who was afraid she was “losing her freedoms” and that the constitution was being ignored because of reconciliation and seemed to not notice that we just had an election and Obama won and not agreeing with who won the election does not mean you freedoms are under attack it just means your side did not win.


  29. tombaker says:

    Hey Stallman -

    poke.


  30. Jim Wolf359 says:

    kswventures says:

    The fact that you link to world nut daily demostrates that you are Morally and Intellectually Banckrupt. But that was already a well established fact.


  31. blesscurse says:

    McCain and his misinformed supporters just love the socialist single payer government healthcare systems: Medicare, Medicaid, the VA. But they fear that the freedom of the insurance companies to overcharge and arbitrarily deny care might be endangered by Obama’s reforms. Smart.


  32. SP Biloxi says:

    “Angry right boos John McCain for stating that Obama ‘respects the Constitution of the United States.”

    Poor Grandpappy McSame, that old sap. This is dejavu all ovee again for him. Remember in hus run for Prez at one of his townhall meetings that a lady said to McSame that she thought Obama was a Arab? He now has to deal with the wingnut monsters that he and his GOP party peeps created.

    And as far as the comment from the elder woman that questions whether President Obama knows “that we still live under a Constitution.” Like I said, McSame is dealing with uninformed folks. Ah, duh, President Obama is a Constitutional lawyer.


  33. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Richard Stallman says;

    “Fascist socialists”

    Contradict, much?


  34. hormiga brava chavez says:

    conservative jacka$$ @10 what part of the constitution has President Obama trashed??


  35. galmud says:

    I wonder what the reaction would have been if McCain had called Obama a fascist socialist Nazi racist


  36. P.D. says:

    You reap what you sow. I find this laughable. McCain picked that shrill harpie, otherwise known as Sarah Palin, and look at the atmosphere they foisted. A bunch of unintellegent, moronic idiots who wrap themselves up in the American flag and call themselves patriots when they have no clue what they are talking about. These people will NEVER accept Obama because he is black. Oh, they will say he’s a ‘Socialist’ or a ‘Communist’ because they would rather believe the stupidest hair-brained theory then to flat out say thet don’t like him because they are bigots. It’s as plain as the nose on my face.


  37. eastcoastprogressive says:

    Calling these cretins “right” is an abuse of the English language. How about calling them the angry wingnuts, or angry racists. Democrats have full control of the government, the minority party can be respected but we don’t have to care about every little thing they say or do. That’s why I don’t read blogs as much as I used to.


  38. Tired Of Fighting says:

    The so-called “Greatest Generation”, the group who “stood up to tyranny” and helped stopped the spread of facism, is accusing the first Black POTUS of just that. These former (and current) members of the White Citizens Councils are showing what has and will always be in their hearts, HATE.

    And these people call themselves, Christians.

    There are some people who are so Heavenly Bound that they are no Earthly good, this describes the so-called Christians in this country. How do you call yourself a Christian when all you do is hate, you hate Blacks, you hate Gays, you hate Hispanics, you hate the poor, you hate the needy, you hate the sick, hate, hate , hate.

    All so-called Christians love is Money, and people who have money, if you talk to some all they talk about is people who have money, never about what they can do to make someone’s life better. It’s all about hatred, thats what American so-called Christinsanity is all about.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Feb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  39. Shayne says:

    The WWII vet in the audience sits there and say how great his life is and how he’s gotten much more back from Medicare and SS than he ever paid in. But please don’t change anything and give benefits to others. McCain himself said if they don’t make changes Medicare will run out of money and nobody will get anything. Of course McCranky says it’s all trial lawyers fault and if we get rid of malpractice all will be well. Of course the idiot thinks you can buy health insurance with a $5k tax credit. Sure that and another $10k and you can buy insurance half as good as McCain has. Idiot.


  40. Bob says:

    The fascist socialists absolutely hate the constitution…

    ‘fascist socialists’ almost an oxymoron, but at least a moron.

    Fcking idiotic any way.


  41. kwsventures says:

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  42. Shayne says:

    Richard Stallman, bite me you supid, selfish old b@stard.


  43. bzb says:

    How long before McCrybaby back peddles on his remarks?



  44. glogrrl says:

    Sorry, Johnny—can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.


  45. LizCoro says:

    What the hell are these people talking about?

    “Does the POTUS know that we still live under a Constitution?”

    Why didn’t McCain ask this woman what the hell she was talking about? How have her constitutional rights been violated?

    HELP ME, what the hell am I missing??


  46. bzb says:

    Jim Wolf359 @ 33 LMAO


  47. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  48. SoapBox says:

    Hmmm…that crowd looked mighty whitey.

    John Boy, how about mixing some color into
    that crowd for a change? Make it not so KKK like
    might do you good!

    Try it…you might like it!


  49. Uncle Ho says:

    galmud says:

    A standing ovation?


  50. tombaker says:

    kwsventures says:

    I expect only LOSERS to vote me down. I know your mindset. Thanks.

    Then wtf are you doing here?


  51. Shayne says:

    blackwidow says:

    Or there was the crazy blond who was afraid she was “losing her freedoms”

    But the ignorant byatch admitted she heard it on Fox News. We’re letting a news outlet owned by a foreigner destroy our country. He needs to have his license revoked and be forced to sell it to somebody who might be interested in protecting the country.


  52. christopher wiwi says:

    If you put lip stick on Johnny McWars………….he is still Johnny Mc Wars of the re-publiscum party of NO.


  53. Zooey says:

    John McCain helped create this atmosphere of hate and discontent among his ignorant constituents, he deserves all the booing he gets.


  54. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #41,

    “Your are the master of your life.”

    *

    think, then

    write.

    ***

    try it sometime.

    :)


  55. bzb says:

    kwsventures says:
    The U.S. Constitution is was formed for only one reason:

    This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world. The U.S. government is only around to protect your rights via the constitution and bill of rights. That is it. Your are the master of your life. Not some dope in Washington, DC. Get your own education. Get your own health insurance. Can’t afford it? Make more money. Use your brain once. Think and grow rich. Get a 2nd job. Start a business. Quit being a parasite and look for a handout from Uncle Sammy at taxpayer expense. Get some pride. Don’t be a loser looking for cradle to grave handouts. That poor attitude is driving the country down into a bunch of crybaby losers. The American system allows you to succeed and fail. If you fail, try again. Learn from your failure. All bailouts are bad. Get motivated.

    See what a conservative education does to people. I feel for the school kids in Texas.


  56. EugeneDebs says:

    conservaTROLL

    You are a liar and a fool and an ignorant piece of dogshit. Why havent you killed yourself yet? You are so stupid you will never be anything but a burden on decent human beings


  57. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  58. EugeneDebs says:

    Richard Stallman says:

    You ignorant mindless pieces of filth hate America. You are so stupid that not only dont you know what socialism and fascism are you make a fool out of yourself by regurgitating the STUPID Rush has programmed you with. You have the brain of a fruitfly and THAT on your best day


  59. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    “I know your mindset.”

    big brother is watching YOU.

    :|


  60. galmud says:

    Uncle Ho says:

    galmud says:

    A standing ovation?

    wouldnt be the least bit surprised


  61. cosmosis says:

    No wonder McVain hates himself. Look at the people he has to appeal to to vote for him.


  62. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  63. Zooey says:

    kwsventures says:
    August 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Why do you think you have the right to lecture us? I would bet that most of us have been in the workforce longer than you, have raised children to adulthood, and have embarked on second or third careers.

    Take your lecture and shove it up your ass, and don’t let your head get in the way.


  64. dixie blood says:

    Y’all,

    kwsventures is a jerk and a troll. Please ignore and talk around the a$$hole and not to the a$$hole.


  65. P.D. says:

    These people make me ashamed. Other Countries must think we are the dumbest people on the planet. Not only do we not know anything about our Constitution, these people make fools out of themselves by acting like whiny school children. These people can’t even get their facts straight. They show up with Hilter signs and automatic weapons. They make me cringe.


  66. bzb says:

    kwsventures says:
    I expect only LOSERS to vote me down. I know your mindset. Thanks.

    …and we truly know yours, now you need to STFU with your off base illogical “alternative” renderings of the US Constitution and learn something for a change from the intelligent people here on TP. Your ignorance is bliss.


  67. Uncle Ho says:

    Zooey says:

    Yowzer!
    You go, girl!


  68. Xisithrus says:

    It was Bush that called the constiution a GD piece of paper IIRC


  69. Above the Clouds says:

    McCain always seems surprised at what happens whenever he shakes the cage that houses all his crazies.


  70. hellinabucket says:

    kwsventures, stay off our roads, don’t drink the water, don’t eat the food, don’t go to an emergency room, don’t fly in our airspace, don’t mail anything, don’t go to our schools and then you’ll be the master of your own destiny. The rest of us believe in what is good for the commons.


  71. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    not knowing and intelligence are not one in the same. think again.

    :)


  72. Incars says:

    Wingnuts are numerous and if this country fails I lay it directly at their feet.


  73. christopher wiwi says:

    kwsventures,If we had medicare for all and made it part of the commonswe would not be having this talk, but we don`t because people like you SHILL for big business,18,000 people a year die in this country from lack of health care that`s more than all of the soldiers that gave their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan together, something is wrong here when civilians die in a pay or die health care system where the CEO of United health care makes $100,000 a day and Aetna health care drops 8 million people from the rolls and raises their rate for the rest of us and still make these outrageous profits.


  74. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  75. Zooey says:

    Thanks, Unka Ho. ;)

    Looks like the pussy is running off. Typical.


  76. EugeneDebs says:

    kwsventures says:

    One of the stupidest organic beings in the KNOWN universe is telling someone else to use their brain? Hey moron. YOU need to AQUIRE a brain then learn how to use it. The Constitution itself SAYS what it is for in the preamble you mindless brainwashed cretin

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Now we all understand you are too stupid to know what this means so you just regurgitate what Rush TOLD you to think it means but the only thing that demonstrates is how pathetically stupid you are


  77. tombaker says:

    Educating losers.

    Then you should be “kickin’ it” over at “Big Mike’s RNC Blog”.

    (they lost – not us)


  78. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  79. christopher wiwi says:

    Zooey,The HYPOCRITTER is running off with his tail between his legs……….


  80. bzb says:

    conservative guy says:

    Obama has been trashing the constitution since he took office.

    Can you provide exact examples of your postings?


  81. Xisithrus says:

    KWS thinks pork barrel spending is not exclsuonary crony private welfare?


  82. Incars says:

    74. Back to your mothers teet.


  83. Zooey says:

    kwsventures, you are a coward.


  84. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #73,

    have fun on the appalachian trail.

    remember, leaves of three – let them be.

    good luck.

    :)


  85. Tired Of Fighting says:

    P.D. says:

    These people make me ashamed. Other Countries must think we are the dumbest people on the planet. Not only do we not know anything about our Constitution, these people make fools out of themselves by acting like whiny school children. These people can’t even get their facts straight. They show up with Hilter signs and automatic weapons. They make me cringe.

    Exactly, but let them tell it, it is us, the informed who are ruining this country.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 In (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Feb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  86. EugeneDebs says:

    kwsventures says:

    Educating losers.
    <<<<<<<<<

    HA, you are a moron. You are too stupid to educate someone on how to tie their shoes. Dustmites are smarter than you will EVER be


  87. Shayne says:

    kwsventures says:
    This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world

    Your right pal. Why weren’t you at that McCain meeting and told all those old farts who are collecting way more than they ever paid in on Medicare and SS to get off their asses and get a job. Most of those old women never worked a day in their lives. You find me a mother today who gets to stay home with her children. These old b#tches had families early and their kids were gone before they were 30. For 35 years they watched soap operas until they started collecting enough taxpayer money to go to the casino and blow it. Good for them. Except then people like you want to persecute the Mexican guy who works preparing your food in 120 degree kitchens riding his bike to work in the pouring rain because he’s the one you think is bilking you. In any other society you Fox News and Limbaugh dittoheads would have been sent to the gallows so the rest of us didn’t have to listen to your stupid sh#t.


  88. Xisithrus says:

    Its weird to hear an outdoorsman back big business that would bulldoze his nature hikes for money.


  89. Zooey says:

    christopher wiwi says:

    Zooey,The HYPOCRITTER is running off with his tail between his legs……….
    August 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    He always does. I think it’s hilarious that he claims to be here to “educate” us, when he is so completely unteachable himself.


  90. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  91. christopher wiwi says:

    Does KWS know if the Steele token was for medicare before he against it before he was for it………?


  92. Incars says:

    No matter where you go in this country these crazy-ass repugs are spewing their bile. I don’t know, just about ready to give up on this great country, too many dip sh its.


  93. Zooey says:

    kwsventures says:

    Get some pride.
    August 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    I’ve got plenty of pride.

    Grow a spine, you ignorant f ucktard coward.


  94. EugeneDebs says:

    kwsventures says:

    Please go. You are far too stupid to contribute anyway. We KNOW you worship Ebenezer Scrooge. We KNOW you love seeing Americans DIE. We KNOW it is party time at your house as long as you can help get more Americans killed. So go you disgust decent human beings anyway


  95. P.D. says:

    Well, This is the Republicans base! All these old, bitter, white folks who think the ‘Progressives’ and ‘Liberals’ are evil elitists and higher education is for suckers! That’s why they voted for Bush, because he is just like them! You know, a ‘Joe the Plumber’ you can have a beer with. Never mind the fact younger people are turning from the Republican Party in droves. The minority vote? The Repugs can kiss that good-bye with their Xenophobic tendicies. And women? Yeah right. Like I would vote for some old white dude who believe birth control should be illegal. Good luck in the future Repugs. Oh, you might get somes gains in 2010, but overall, I think your toast.


  96. Xisithrus says:

    kwsventures says:
    This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world

    The way I see it I have paid in alot of money into the system and I want it to go to other people and not some lobbyist fascists exploiting government so they can give it to some CEO that doesnt need any of my money. I also dont want my money that I put into the system to go th the MIC scam.


  97. EugeneDebs says:

    kwsventures says:

    You wouldnt know freedom from the maggots that crawl out of your infested brain. You are an ignorant piece of filth. Far too stupid to even RECOGNIZE freedom. The only thing you know is stupid and what Rush tells you. You mistake your zeal for getting Americans killed for freedom. You are are stupid and you are an worthless punkass troll


  98. bzb says:

    kwsventures says:
    Lefties love giving some tidbits to the common folk. Keeps them in line. They own what is good for you. You can’t handle true freedom.

    …and Righties love giving misinformed tidbits to common people it keeps them in fear and makes them “dumb.” Besides righties can’t comprehend what true freedom is.

    There fixed again.


  99. raynman says:

    kwsventures says:

    We don’t want you to leave angry, or expect you to leave more educated … we just want you to leave


  100. christopher wiwi says:

    KWS,What myths about health care are spewing today…….?


  101. Above the Clouds says:

    What a great con job the GOP have played on their “base”–all of whom are totally dependent on a “government” they have been schooled to distrust and despise by Hannity, Limbaugh, and McCain.


  102. P.D. says:

    kws@75, LOL! That was so moronic. Oh yeah! We are a bunch of welfare loving pacifists! Damn! I almost peed myself. Thats for the laugh. Idiot.


  103. Leftside Annie says:

    Ah, yes, I see the dragon’s teeth have sprouted and matured into full-grown ignorant zombie hate-warriors!

    Thanks for planting and fertilizing these monsters, McLoony. I hope one of ‘em comes for YOU because you pissed him off by saying something sane and reasonable…

    Good luck, you old bastard.


  104. Pilotshark says:

    kwsventures says:Gotta go. To all the lovers of the welfare state. I pity your losing, going nowhere in life, so I will try for a taxpayer funded handout, mindset. Have some pride. Out.

    oh pleases go away mad pleases cause talking about you are what we called in the ARMY a

    lifer
    lazy insurfactant f-off expiating retirement

    cause you are the lowest of the low


  105. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  106. christopher wiwi says:

    Why do Re-pukes run for office if it`s such an untrustworthy institution?


  107. bzb says:

    kwsventures says:
    Gotta business to run. Don’t have anymore time to waste on this loony lefty website. I don’t waste time on here all day waiting for a check from Uncle Sammy. Get some pride.

    You mean your about to get off from work and your employer caught you wasting productivity time costing them enormous amounts of money. So how much was your tax refund?

    Always gotta fix your shyt.


  108. tombaker says:

    kws – i’ve never seen anyone so afraid of so little ever in my life, and i’ve raised children.

    no way around it – you’re just a craven coward (and borderline sociopath)

    NUT UP and SHUT UP.


  109. christopher wiwi says:

    kws, If you don`t pay your taxes, stay off our roads,stay out of our libraries don`t call the fire or police depts because you are taking care of yourself, right.


  110. Shayne says:

    kwsventures, Bush said, OUT LOUD AND ON CAMERA, that the Constitution was just a damn piece of paper and you ignorant jacka$$es never said boo. Now you believe in the Constitution but you don’t want anybody prosecution for torture and violating the Geneva Convention with is AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION.


  111. bzb says:

    kwsventures:

    WTF are you still doing here boy you better get back to work before you get fired and than you will be asking “Uncle Sammy” for help.


  112. Xisithrus says:

    kwsventures says: This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world

    Funny that wall street the biggest SCAM ever, doesnt see it that way.


  113. bzb says:

    Zooey @ 76 LMAO again :D


  114. katy says:

    i wish someone would ask these rubes one or two simple questions… like:

    who told you that?

    what makes you think that?

    why would you ask such a stupid question?

    and, the best: “On what planet do you spend most of your time?”


  115. joe cantwell says:

    #91,

    kwsventures says:
    Gotta business to run. Don’t have anymore time to waste on this loony lefty website…
    August 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    **

    eight minutes later.

    **

    #106

    kwsventures says:
    This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world…
    August 25th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    *

    business must be slow.

    :)


  116. Shayne says:

    kwsventures says:

    Lefties love giving some tidbits to the common folk. Keeps them in line. They own what is good for you. You can’t handle true freedom.

    And you stupid neoturds babble on about this being the greatest country while turning it into a cesspool of ignorance and greed. This country is going to get better, it couldn’t get worse, and if you Repukes don’t like it feel free to leave. You don’t contribute anything any way.


  117. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  118. kscitydude says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  119. Xisithrus says:

    kwsventures says: Get some pride.

    I guess your proud that your taxdollars goes to subsidize big oil, the building of bombs that kill people. Thats not pride that sociopathy.


  120. eyeswideopen1 says:

    The Boooing just shows the lack of class and the sour grapes of these people. F**k em! Elections have consequences.


  121. Richard Stallman says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  122. Chyron HR says:

    kwsventures says:

    I am the boss. It is my business.

    Yes, he is self-employed. His business is throwing shrieking fits on the internet. Sales are slow, but luckily he keeps costs down by operating out of his parents’ basement.


  123. Richard Stallman says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  124. Don in Texas says:

    · # 41 kwsventures says:

    The U.S. Constitution is was formed for only one reason:
    This is America. Nobody owes you anything in this world. The U.S. government is only around to protect your rights via the constitution and bill of rights. That is it.

    You couldn’t be more wrong. The U. S. Constitution was formed for no less than six reasons:

    “We the People of the United States in order to [1] form a more perfect union, [2] establish justice, [3] insure domestic tranquility, [4] provide for the common defence, [5] promote the general welfare, and [6] secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    You can look it up. The original document is on public display under glass at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.


  125. bzb says:

    kwsventures

    I am the boss. It is my business. You take money from Uncle Sam and he is your boss.

    Your such a liar and a scared tart.


  126. stewarjt says:

    Only the stupid people were offended by Bill Maher calling Americans stupid.


  127. Xisithrus says:

    Richard Stallman says: The fascist socialists on this site have no use for the constitution.

    I see your projector is broken.It was Bush that called the constitution a GD piece of paoper and that he wanted people to stop waving it in his face. And if you listen to the people here that are FOR the constitution. Its why they were upset about Dubyas illegal wiretapping.


  128. benji85 says:

    I liked the old lady on medicare that said there are some of use on medicare that would like to give it up and she was met with boos from the crowd. She then went on to say we wont give up our medicare and then asked what is wrong with government run health care.


  129. ElBruce says:

    kwsventures says:

    The U.S. Constitution is was formed for only one reason:

    …except that the U.S. Constitution says otherwise. The reason for the document is stated clearly in its own preamble:

    …in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…

    I make that six, maybe seven reasons depending on whether you count “ourselves” and “posterity” as one or two purposes. You should try actually reading the Constitution sometime, if you’re going to talk about it so much. Particularly if you’re going to claim to be in any position to educate us.


  130. stratonike says:

    McCain hasn’t gotten the memo that the right isn’t pretending to be rational anymore. It must be time for him to retire.


  131. Shayne says:

    If President Obama was a fascist the first thing he’d do is take the vote away from people who are so stupid they believe what they hear on Fox News and from Lush Rimjob.


  132. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    “dI am the boss.”

    . . .

    who am the worker?

    :)


  133. Xisithrus says:

    You take money from Uncle Sam and he is your boss.

    Stop projecting such broad brush illogical claims that are not based in reality.


  134. dasm says:

    And yet that same bigoted elderly woman remained silent, as did the other booing haters, when Bush called the Constitution just a god-damned piece of paper. These people’s words & actions, so blatantly two-faced, reveal the racism that’s really behind it all.


  135. Xisithrus says:

    Uncle Sam is my boss….Lord, what a inane remark KWS


  136. Perry logan says:

    You’ve got to give credit where it’s due. McCain is one of the few Republicans who will even take a stab at decency.


  137. Shayne says:

    Richard Stallman says:

    Leftists are worse racists than the KKK.

    Oh no, you cut us to the bone with that one. One thing though, Einstein, explain to us why “leftists” voted in a black president while you reptards voted for a mean spirited, not to bright, lying cranky old white man who’s been sucking off the public his entire life? We’ll wait.


  138. Shayne says:

    Perry logan says:

    You’ve got to give credit where it’s due. McCain is one of the few Republicans who will even take a stab at decency.

    No can do Perry. It is John McCain that gave us Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber and for that he must pay.


  139. Pilotshark says:

    Richard Stallman says:

    excuse me I was wondering

    is there any useful matter inside your head?
    have you ever took time out of you day and read just the the first few lines in the Constitution?


  140. Dirty Hippie says:

    Nice try, John,and thanks, but you represent a card carrying province of Dumbassistan. They’re never going to get it. Cracker a-holes.


  141. Xisithrus says:

    Well, these are the same people that bought Roves smears about McCain fathering a black child and having screws loose from being tortured, yet they also probably voted for him in 2008.

    Is anyone surprised at the hypocrisy on display here?


  142. Shayne says:

    The other think that lying sack of McCain did is accuse President Obama of doing reform as a favor to the drug lobbyists while he’s himself is doing the bidding of the insurance lobby. He makes me sick.


  143. Ape-Man says:

    What do you expect Mr. McCain when you run on an anti-government platform. Let’s never forget that these people are like minded like you. The only difference is that they can get away with such displays and you can’t, any more…

    Remember “fight!” “fight!” “fight!” John?


  144. Fred says:

    Richard Stallman says:
    The fascist socialists

    I hope this loon keeps posting. He makes a good wedge when talking to rational conservatives. They are all ashamed as they should be.

    I guess the republican party is truly dead, eh?


  145. Bob says:

    How telling that no one can give specific examples of Obama violating the Constitution.

    He expanded use of private contractors for combat. That could be something. Stated before, but he hasn’t prosecuted war crimes of the previous admin, something else. There are a few things that have been continued that violate the Constitution, but these citizens weren’t complaining when the things were started.

    So maybe it’s confusing.
    How has the Constitution been violated since January?
    Does that make it easier?


  146. Peashooter says:

    I watched the entire McCain TH meeting. I have never in my life heard more ill informed comments on a specific subject. Even McCain realized that these people were completely out of touch and they were agreeing with him! How can we have any resemblance of a democracy when the people do not understand the facts of an issue?

    McCain’s comments against healthcare reform were very weak to say the least. If you cannot trust a war hero to have enough integrity to at least stand up for the vulnerable in our country then we have a very sick perception of American ethical moral leadership.

    I’m completely disgusted with the whole matter and I’ve never distrusted conservative motivations more.


  147. barfly says:

    Hate to have to drop this on you, but not everyone who doesn’t like President Obama is a racist! I’m tired of people being called racist every time they criticize President Obama. Easy to just lump everyone into the same group. Two words being used way to much lately, racist and Hilter.

    Cry me a river. You folks had no trouble labeling those who disagreed with Bush as unAmerican, and terrorist-lovers. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, you can’t wait to express your indignation. You lost. Move on.


  148. Ape-Man says:

    The people shouting are the people among us that outright resent government. “no government for me” they say.

    Well, we had that government vs. no-government argument long ago, and it was decided that no-government sucks worse than a democratic government. then the Republiscum came along. Slowly but surely, and with a big boost from bush-cheney, the Republiscum became the Regipizan that we see today. They did away with government alright, but they filled the vacuum with tyranny and fascist corporations.


  149. Frugalchariot says:

    As a former longtime resident of Arizona, as one whose parents are buried in a Sun City cemetery, I suppose I should be embarrassed. But I’m not, not really — it’s shit just like that that finally drove me out of the redneck bastion of idiocy that some still call Arizona. As for Sun City, well, it’s become nothing other than a gigantic urban sprawled conglomeration of blue-haired naysayers from all over the country who managed to land in a slot of hallowed America where selfish and greedy old farts can milk the government cow on both S.S. and Medicare, but where they don’t have to pay a cent in local taxes to support that “socialism” crap otherwise known as Public Education.

    The Sun Cities of Arizona (all three of them: SC, SC-West, and SC-Grand) stand as living testimony to the FACT that the United States is, just like the bulk of SC residents, dead or dying both from the neck up AND from the neck down. Dismal place, that: a cemetery with golf courses. Yuk.


  150. dbadass says:

    It seems I missed the freaks…


  151. oldfuzz says:

    Come on. He’s on his home turf. The people who cam (99% is my guess) voted for him for President. They probably watch the Republican–spelled Fox–News Network and have lost their balance.

    Senator McCain is walking a tight rope. I waiting to see where he goes on health care when Congress gets to work on it.


  152. ljm says:

    The wingers love to abuse the 1st amendment by flaunting their ignorance and arrogance. They keep grabbing the mic don’t they?


  153. EugeneDebs says:

    Richard Stallman says:

    OK so you are stupid. You are a brainwashed cell of the Limborg hivemind. You obviously know you are too stupid to think for yourself so you regurgitate this level of stupidity. Even by those standards you are an ingnorant punkass troll. You dont want to discuss anything. You know you are too STUPID for that. All you could do is make plain how astonishingly, bone chillingly stupid you are. So you vomit some of your collosal stupid on the screen then run away like the cowardly piece of dogshit you are. You are a sad and pathetic excuse for an American. You EMBARASS all decent Americans. In fact I am ashamed to be the same species you are. Assuming of course you ARE a human being and not a retarded monkey.


  154. LibertyLover says:

    To be honest, Sun City is a very conservative area…. I would have expected no less than what happened here… I think they even pipe in Fox News day and night… like the “2 minute hate”, only in this case it is the “24 hour hate” channel.


  155. pete says:

    I know that Flippy McSpin is getting old and feeble but, he should know that there’s no reason to which one may appeal in these crowds. After all, he and his campaign handlers helped create the unruly mob.


  156. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    so this is what kwsventures meant

    when he said he had to go back to “work”.

    :\


  157. wiley says:

    There is another reason why the founders formed a state—to levy taxes. Seriously. They didn’t form a libertarian utopia and eschew all taxation because that would have been the OPPOSITE of what they wanted to accomplish.


  158. dbadass says:

    Seems they don’t like to be referred to as freaks….


  159. dbadass says:

    looks like you are out of votes there eh partner…



  160. dbadass says:

    So know that you have expended you votes wanna post something intelligent for us to chat about?


  161. ralph the wonder llama says:

    wiley says:
    There is another reason why the founders formed a state—to levy taxes. Seriously. They didn’t form a libertarian utopia and eschew all taxation because that would have been the OPPOSITE of what they wanted to accomplish.

    Spot on. One of the key reasons the Articles of Confederation (blueprint for “States’ Rights” utopia) were a failure was because the federal government had no authority to levy taxes, regulate commerce, establish a uniform currency… in fact the Confederation Congress had almost no authority to do anything, and no money with which to do it anyway.

    Much of what our trolls whine for was already tried, and failed.


  162. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Fred says:
    Richard Stallman says:
    The fascist socialists

    I hope this loon keeps posting. He makes a good wedge when talking to rational conservatives.

    You’ve seen a rational conservative? What did it look like? What kind of plumage did it have? I bet it wore a bowtie. Did it wear a bowtie?

    This is a wonderful discovery. A rational conservative. We must report it to the EPA. They were reportedly about to declare them extinct.


  163. pete says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:
    Much of what our trolls whine for was already tried, and failed.

    It’s hard to teach history to those who think “Leave it to Beaver” and “The Flintstones” are documentaries.


  164. dbadass says:

    I hope this loon keeps posting.

    So do I but for entirely different reasons…


  165. EugeneDebs says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:

    I have seen them. Not so much lately. I have SEEN John Danforth and Barry Goldwater. I didnt agree with them but they WERE honest and reasonable. The GOP better find a few of them or its Whig party time


  166. pete says:

    We are still waiting on the definition updates, ralph. It has become quite obvious that it’s irrational to continue to identify oneself as “conservative”. The reckless radicals who have usurped the name certainly bear little resemblance to the conservatives of my youth.


  167. Lunaluz says:

    #10 Obama has been trashing the constitution??? Noooooooooo,
    GW, Darth Cheney and Rove did that. I’m sure you were paying attention and cheered when they spied on thousands of US citizens, passed the Patriot Act, and made protesting the war illegal, besides making IP providers turn over your browsing habits and info, for no reason. That IS trashing the constitution, you retarded oaf. Stupid is as stupid does.


  168. SWBob says:

    The repubs have decided to appeal to more fear and name calling. They haven’t (give McCain credit) as a whole attempted to move the problem solving to intelligent discussions, but have allowed mob rule and use of force and intimidation to stall any effort to solve the massive problems of the USA. Of course, they have no solutions, as they and they rich friends love how bush/cheney screwed over average Americans and they have no alternative to keeping the rich folks happy, but to keep screwing over average Americans.


  169. ralph the wonder llama says:

    EugeneDebs says:

    I have seen them. Not so much lately. I have SEEN John Danforth and Barry Goldwater. I didnt agree with them but they WERE honest and reasonable. The GOP better find a few of them or its Whig party time

    I tell ya, Eugene, I don’t see it happening. They just seem to be having so much fun indulging their hate.


  170. pete says:

    I might add that none of the “Constitutional scholars” on the Right seem to remember the part where Congress shall have the sole power and authority to declare war.

    Afghanistan is suspect in it’s own right but, in retrospect, Bush should have been impeached the second the first bomb fell in Baghdad.


  171. Fred says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:
    I tell ya, Eugene, I don’t see it happening. They just seem to be having so much fun indulging their hate.

    Ralph, I live in Okla. I live surrounded by republicans. I grew up around them, they are my family in some cases.

    Many are losing interest in what the republicans have become. What they will do I don’t know but I take it as a good sign.

    It’s different when they have known you all your life and watched you raise good kids and know that just because I am a democrat that I am not the devil.


  172. flavorino says:

    an elderly woman asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) whether President Obama knows “that we still live under a Constitution.”

    It’s not like Obama was a law student or anything….
    Why do I get the feeling that 30 or 40 years ago these same people would have been yelling, “HE”S A N*****!”,
    but alas because it’s 2009 they have to come up with the best alternative they can think of.

    The world has changed, the past is never going to return and my opinion is some people don’t know how to deal with it.


  173. pete says:

    It’s still hard to say, ralph and Eugene, because we haven’t seen the death of a party. The closest we’ve seen in recent history is the defection of the Dixiecrats. It’s safe to say that the Democratic party has struggled to find an identity since then but they’ve remained viable even at their lowest.

    The GOoPers, on the other hand, show no signs of returning to reasoned debate. Frankly I’m surprised that not a single one has even suggested a move back towards center. Indeed, the remaining dregs seem to be unable to see how far to the extremes they’ve gone and anyone who tries to bring it up gets expelled.

    I sure can’t see how they can recover with any of the current players in place. They’ve become parodies of themselves and have no substance to ground themselves with now that they’ve been slapped down. Who would have thought that the mighty “permanent majority” would turn into whiny b!tches so quickly and completely?


  174. Impolitic says:

    Someone once wrote that in a stable democratic society, if one candidate wins 50% plus one vote, the 50% minus one vote who voted for the opposing candidate will accept the outcome. Obama won the election by a margin of about 9 million votes, but it’s clear that the Republican base won’t accept that as a legitimate outcome.

    It seems obvious that these people are enemies of American democracy. If they could get the current conservative majority on the Supreme Court to decide all future presidential elections as it did in 2000, I’ve got no doubt that they’d be OK with that.


  175. Tired Of Fighting says:

    John McCain deserves credit for not one damn thing, period. This man HAD the opportunity to show true leadership after losing the presidency, but he chose to stay the man he has always been, which is a mean, cranky, opportunist.

    Mr. McCain, like I has enjoyed “Government Health Care” his entire life, as a Military Dependent, an Aviator, and as a U.S. Senator. He should be the loudest of all shouting how what his colleagues are saying is bullish. But will he, hell no, because he is a bitter old loser just like the rest of his generation.

    These people were fine when it was them getting all of the gov’t subsidies to move out of the crowded cities during “white flight”. It was cool to be able to sit in the front of the bus, lunch counters, movies, etc. But now that we have a new sheriff that happens to be Black its Facism, Socialism, the end of America as we all know and love it.

    These are the people who so-called fought for freedom, these people despise freedom, they despise decency and respect. These are the “we’re number 1″ crowd that believes that we can do no wrong and should never apologize when we do. These are also so-called religious people who only worship money and hatred, and John McCain is one of them except when he ran against GWB.

    So for anyone willing to give John McCain any sympathy I ask you to rethink that and look at his total body of work, its quite disgusting, just like those who are his constituents, colleagues, admirers, and followers.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Feb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  176. Xisithrus says:

    Remember when they said people had BDS?

    I guess that means Barack Derangement Syndrome NOW.


  177. ukeman123 says:

    McCain “to his credit”… he knew MSNBC was covering it.
    Yet his was a meeting where all questions were listened to and responded to.
    I appreciated that.
    I agree he should be call into account; and that’s the kind of format all T H meetings should have. fat chance; i know.


  178. HarryC says:

    Gotta love seniors using socialized medicine who they won’t allow it to be touched to let anyone else in on the deal for fear of imaginary inconveniences. Gotta love seniors selling out their kids and grandchildren to make sure there isn’t even the slightest chance of an inconvenience for themselves. Truly the “greatest” generation.


  179. Game of Life says:

    Teabagger Springer Show.

    I.D.I.O.T.S.


  180. darter22 says:

    I saw this on tv and thought I was watching a Klan rally. Unrepentant, overt racists. They make death panels almost seem like a reasonable idea.


  181. wiley says:

    These teabaggers are an odd sort, and may represent the powers that be of their generation—being the useful tools they are to corporate and the Republican party—but I think it’s a mistake to think they represent an entire generation. Don’t sell everyone short over a bunch of mindless yahoos. You don’t want anyone writing your generation off by the worst it has to offer—and EVERY GENERATION has it’s share of faults and nuts.


  182. kwsventures says:

    “In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.”
    – Voltaire


  183. kwsventures says:

    “A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul.”
    – George Bernard Shaw

    “A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”
    – G. Gordon Liddy


  184. ElBruce says:

    kwsventures says:

    “A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”
    – G. Gordon Liddy

    Why are you quoting a terrorist? Why do you think aphorisms are an appropriate substitution for reasoned debate? And why are you changing the subject to apparently argue against progressive taxation?

    Anyhow, here is a chart of income inequality in the United States for the past century. Of course, you’ll immediately notice that this chart is inversely proportional to economic growth for the same periods.

    The facts prove you wrong once again. Go find some more pithy quotes; maybe there are some haikus or something out there that can do your argumentation for you.


  185. EugeneDebs says:

    kwsventures says:

    You just cant help it. Since you KNOW you are very stupid it gives you this feeling of inferiority and it SHOULD. You are ignorant, you are stupid. You ARE a piece of garabage and any decent human being would be ashamed to be anything LIKE you. To compensate for how stupid and pathetic you are you come to a site where people smarter and better than you can ever hope to be congregate and try to annoy us. The thing is you are too stupid to pull that off too. Really? A few quotes? G FELON Libby? What massive piece of dogshit you are.

    “Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.”
    William E. Gladstone

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

    John Galbraith

    Conservatism discards Prescription, shrinks from Principle, disavows Progress; having rejected all respect for antiquity, it offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future.
    Benjamin Disraeli

    Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
    John Stuart Mill

    A conservative is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run.

    Elbert Hubbard:

    Leo C. Rosten:
    A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they’re dead.

    Margaret Chase Smith:
    I don’t want to see the Republican Party ride to political victory on the Four Horsemen of Calumny – Fear, Ignorance, Bigotry, and Smear.

    Mort Sahl:
    Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they’ve stolen.

    Robert S. McElvaine:
    Most liberals never lost sight of the potential for evil in big government. They have consistently opposed government power in matters of personal and political belief. Liberals are not unconcerned with economic liberty, but they have come to believe that the common good requires that social justice be given a higher priority than absolute economic freedom. Conservatives are—and always have been—on the other side of both questions. They are much more prone than liberals to limiting personal and political liberties, but they place the freedom of an individual to do as he pleases in the economic realm at the top of their concerns. Social justice has held a lower priority for conservatives, from the days of Alexander Hamilton when they favored strong government as a means of protecting their economic privileges to the days of Ronald Reagan when they see government as an instrument of social justice and therefore a threat to their economic position.

    And these things must be true. Famous people said them


  186. kwsventures says:

    “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”
    – Winston Churchill


  187. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  188. kwsventures says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  189. kwsventures says:

    “To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, ‘the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.’”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.”
    – Ayn Rand


  190. kwsventures says:

    “You can’t get rid of poverty by giving people money.”
    – P. J. O’Rourke

    “The function of socialism is to raise suffering to a higher level.”
    – Norman Mailer

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    – C.S. Lewis


  191. kwsventures says:

    Any power must be an enemy of mankind which enslaves the individual by power and by force, whether it arises under the Fascist or the Communist flag. All that is valuable in human society depends upon the opportunity for development accorded to the individual.
    –Albert Einstein

    Communism doesn’t work because people like to own stuff.
    –Frank Zappa


  192. Shayne says:

    kwsventures has TWO P.J. O’Rourke quotes and one from that dumbass b actor, Ronald Reagan. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


  193. Shayne says:

    I didn’t even see his G. Gordon Liddy quote, what a moron.


  194. Shayne says:

    kwsventures, can’t you find anything by Scooter Libby or that oter a$$hole Oliver North?


  195. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
    –John Stuart MIll


  196. dbadass says:

    kwsventures:
    That business of yours must have a pretty cool web presence. Can you point me to it?
    Thanks-


  197. dbadass says:

    “The vasy majority of right thinking people are wrong”….


  198. ralph the wonder llama says:

    A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy.
    –Benjamin Disraeli


  199. dbadass says:

    Oops better make that “vast”.


  200. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Was there a progressive on this board arguing in favor of communism?

    Oh, that’s right — tighty righties are incapable of understanding actual meanings of words. They just suck on the juice of anything that sounds “evil” to them, and they decide that all words that sound “evil” mean the same thing.


  201. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Any power must be an enemy of mankind which enslaves the individual by power and by force, whether it arises under the Fascist or the Communist flag.

    Huh. it appears from the structure of his statement that Albert Einstein accepts that “fascist” and “communist” lie at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

    And our silly friend kwsventures appears to endorse this view by approvingly quoting him.

    I’d better not catch our little friend trying to claim that fascism is a leftist thing…


  202. OutstandingInMyField says:

    kwsventures says:

    “those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    – C.S. Lewis

    This is hard to disagree with, given that it sumarizes the religious right perfectly. This is why someone can execute an abortion provider, or deny societal sanction to a loving union that they define as sinful. This explains how a bunch of criminals can attempt to bomb a Middle Eastern country into democracy and call it “operation iraqi freedom”. I’m sorta missing the part where you feel this type of self-righteousness applies solely to socialism.


  203. dbadass says:

    How come kwsventures always splits just when I get here? I wanted to buy whatever that small business owner is selling. Then I wanted to give whatever it is to those who have been less fortunate than I. I just wanna get it over with before whatever it is is out of business like most wannabe tycoons end up…


  204. ralph the wonder llama says:

    dbadass says:
    “The vasy majority of right thinking people are wrong”….

    Wasn’t that Mummy Badgers?


  205. EugeneDebs says:

    A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy.
    Benjamin Disraeli

    A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling ‘Stop!’
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

    A conservative is a fellow who thinks a rich man should have a square deal.
    Frank Dane

    I do not know which makes a man more conservative – to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past.
    John Maynard Keynes

    Our ‘neoconservatives’ are neither new nor conservative, but old as Bablyon and evil as Hell.
    Edward Abbey

    Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
    Kin Hubbard

    When a nation’s young men are conservative, its funeral bell is already rung.
    Henry Ward Beecher

    A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
    Mark Twain

    I never dared to be radical when young
    For fear it would make me conservative when old.
    Robert Frost


  206. EugeneDebs says:

    George Carlin

    “Conservatives say if you don’t give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they’ve lost all incentive because we’ve given them too much money.”

    “Have you ever wondered why Republicans are so interested in encouraging people to volunteer in their communities? It’s because volunteers work for no pay. Republicans have been trying to get people to work for no pay for a long time.”

    “Once you leave the womb, conservatives don’t care about you until you reach military age. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.”

    Broadly speaking. And generally speaking, people on…the right of center, are interested in property values, property, property rights. The rights and the rights of property. And generally speaking again – it’s all generalized – the left-of-center people are more concerned with humans and human beings and human concerns; to the care of humans, not the care and worry about property rights. That’s generally been true


  207. EugeneDebs says:

    Congratulations on learning to cut and paste Dr Venture. We always knew you were too stupid to think for yourself but this is a step up from giving us a re-run of the Rush Limbaugh show


  208. Leftside Annie says:

    Conservatives are evil and stupid.

    ~Leftside Annie


  209. EugeneDebs says:

    Leftside Annie says:

    Conservatives are evil and stupid.

    ~Leftside Annie
    >>>>>>>>>>

    I approve of that one LA I may borrow it a few times


  210. gordon_freeman42 says:

    Too little, too late there Johnny.

    GF42


  211. Tonybd07 says:

    You know, for all these people who call Obama a Nazi, a fascist, or says he doesn’t respect the Constitution, can we get some definitive proof? Maybe a non-blog, non-Fox News media site?


  212. planetwingnuttia says:

    kwsventures since you’re so big on non government handouts…let me ask you have you ever gone to college…did you accept any financial aid? oh if you did…SOCIALIST PIG!


  213. NutWrench says:

    Good job, McCain! He always does better when he follows his own conscience and doesn’t let himself be “managed” by right-wing talking points. (They were just FULL of good ideas, weren’t they? Sarah Palin? “Pals around with terrorists?”)

    I remember that McCain gave a classy concession speech at the end of the presidential campaign. If he had taken the high road instead of wallowing with the morons, I might have voted for him.


  214. ElBruce says:

    aliveli says:

    McCain handled this honestly…

    I was wondering how the spambot seemed to be writing actual relevant opinions. Here is the source of that text. Apparently it’s picking up comments from other sites and dropping them in here with the links peppered throughout.


  215. Xhagast says:

    The debate here seems to be about conservativism being bad or not. To me the issue is whether the conservatives in the US are stupid or evil.


  216. karadagli61 says:

    very thanks for article!



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