At a town hall forum last week, Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS) offered encouragement to conservative activists by saying there were some “really sharp” young Republicans in the House. “Republicans are struggling right now to find the great white hope,” said Jenkins. “I suggest to any of you who are concerned about that, who are Republican, there are some great young Republican minds in Washington.” Jenkins proceeded to name three GOP members of Congress who are all white — Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI). Watch it:
A Jenkins spokeswoman told the Topeka Capitol-Journal yesterday that “the congresswoman wanted to apologize for her word choice and to emphasize she had no intention of expressing herself in an offensive manner.” “There may be some misunderstanding there when she talked about the great white hope,” said spokeswoman Mary Geiger. “What she meant by it is they have a bright future. They’re bright lights within the party.”
Funny how these asshats keep making the same great white “mistake.”
August 27th, 2009 at 9:47 amRepublican racism must be part of their DNA. They just can’t seem to stop themselves. Until science finds a cure, I urge them to seek treatment on their own, regardless if their health insurance covers mental health or not.
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Yassuh, that’s what she meant…sho is.
Boss lady didn’t mean no harm to de darkies.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:49 amLeave it to the repiggies to throw another “racist” shankbone to the white-wing monster chained up outside the trailer.
I made up my mind years ago to never vote for any repiggie, after seeing them all swoon with delight over the invasion of Iraq.
It is a pledge I have kept.
The local elections this fall will be a golden opportunity for all of you to refuse a vote to the repiggies.
They really are just racist garbage.
They don’t know crap about governing.
They are experts at steering tax money to their own private benefit.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 am“Great white hope” is a very well known phrase, granted. And one that I have never used. The “n”-word is also a very well known phrase. I’ve never used that one either.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 amUM. The term “great white hope” was coined specifically to describe a white man. So, nice word games, but there is no other way to interpret Jenkins’ comment.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:54 amToo bad all they have is a bunch of “great white mopes”.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 amWell, that’s putting it out on the table. Take a few minutes to read the Wiki article on Jack Johnson and see if any of it begins to sound familiar.
Racist white America couldn’t stand the notion that the best boxer in the country was Black, and was desperate for a Great White Hope that would beat down the uppity boxer.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:57 amWhere do Republicans keep getting these women?
August 27th, 2009 at 9:57 amJenkins thought she was being politically correct when she didn’t say we need to get any white guy who can get that darkie out of the White House.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:58 amSatan?
August 27th, 2009 at 9:58 amSure she didn’t mean it the way she said it — she can’t help it when those racial remarks are uttered — they just come so naturally; they just slip right past her bigoted tongue.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:00 amGreat White Hope? No, what the GOOPERs need is a miracle…actually a whole LOT of miracles.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:00 amRead this comment on another blog: Republicans who call themselves PATRIOTS should be renamed HATRIOTS.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:00 amchoejm says: Where do Republicans keep getting these women?
I think there’s a special factory in Alaska.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:01 amShould I suppose that some of her best friends are African-American?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:02 amConsidering that the GOP = KKK, I prefer the great black hope”
August 27th, 2009 at 10:02 amCould have been worse of course. Last November we almost elected not one but two great white dopes.
(OK, that was an easy cheap shot.)
August 27th, 2009 at 10:03 amTo paraphrase Margaret Cho, it’s women like Jenkins who make me almost agree with the conservatives that think women shouldn’t work outside the home. >_<
August 27th, 2009 at 10:05 amShe didn’t mean to “express herself in such an offensive manner”, which means she’s not apologizing for thinking such an offensive thought, she just wishes she hadn’t said it. What a load of crap.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:05 amEven though the term “Great White Hope” does have a common usage nowadays that tries to separate it from its odious beginning, the Republicans have has so many ‘misstatements’ and ‘misunderstandings’ about racially charged speech, that its no wonder people think the worst.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 amThe Great White Hope was a play, written in the 60’s –which showed how segregation and prejudice created the demand for a “great white hope” who would defeat a black boxing champion.
So was Jenkins speaking metaphorically?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 amA thought just occured to me. Maybe Lynn doesn’t realize that she missed out on something.
Once you go black
you never go back
Thursday snarkfest
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 amIn the words of so many xto-cancervatives…
“No offense to anyone, but…”
“I don’t see why anyone was offended by this…I just forwarded it because I thought it was funny…”
I’m sorry that I got caught, oops, I mean that anyone would take offense at that…”
August 27th, 2009 at 10:08 ampablito says:
(OK, that was an easy cheap shot.)
So is Palin.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 amShe meant what she said, and is just expressing the honest feeling of what is left of the GOP. In their view, something that is rightfully the property of white folks (the Presidency) has been stolen by a black person, and a white champion is needed to get it back.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:10 amFunny how republicans always have to apologize for their
August 27th, 2009 at 10:13 am“choice of words” whenever their true beliefs surface.
I dont think she MEANT that to be a racist statement, but it’s just so telling…
August 27th, 2009 at 10:14 amIt would be interesting to know what the origins of the phrase were. It is important to note that the phrase is attested well before the Jack Johnson era, as a quick Google Book search reveals tokens from 1897 (in Cosmopolitan magazine) and 1898 (in Dreamers of the Ghetto by Israel Zangwill). Indeed, the promoters of the time were using the term “Great White Hope” as a racist pun. Now clearly the term has been used despicably in American history, but for a U.S. Representative to be unfamiliar with the history of racism in boxing is, in my opinion, an acceptable flaw. Was her choice of words unfortunate? No question. Was it racist in intent? Quite possibly. Was it necessarily racist? No.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am“What she meant by it is they have a bright future. They’re bright lights within the party.”
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Oh, so THAT’S what the phrase “great white hope” means???? Bright lights???? Geez Louise — perhaps she can come up with just as creative an interpretation of the phrase “call a spade a spade”?
I’m growing a wee bit impatient with people who claim they aren’t racist — it’s just that they’re ignorant.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:17 amMarie says:
The Great White Hope was a play, written in the 60’s –which showed how segregation and prejudice created the demand for a “great white hope” who would defeat a black boxing champion.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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Also adapted into a really good movie starring James Earl Jones and Jane Alexander…
August 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am… uh huh…
message sent… loud and clear.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:17 amtrinityman says:
Now clearly the term has been used despicably in American history, but for a U.S. Representative to be unfamiliar with the history of racism in boxing is, in my opinion, an acceptable flaw.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
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To be unfamiliar with the history of boxing is an acceptable flaw for a U.S. Representative. To be unfamiliar with the history of racism in the United States, however, is most definitely unacceptable.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:21 amCan’tor & Ryan are ‘bright bulbs’?
Dimwits & dim bulbs, in my opinion.
If these 2 are the Republics future, Dems will have the majority for the rest of the 21st Century.
Then we have Mt. Rushblow, the Great White Snark
August 27th, 2009 at 10:24 amThere couldn’t be many statements that this idiot could have made that would have been 1) more revealing or 2) more stupid.
I love it when these crackers define themselves. They’re going to be making these ‘mistakes’ for as long as Obama is in office.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:24 am“There may be some misunderstanding there when she talked about the great white hope,” said spokeswoman Mary Geiger. “What she meant by it was that we really, REALLY need to get darkie out of office!”
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 amchiroptera toasterhead says:
Marie says:
The Great White Hope was a play, written in the 60’s –which showed how segregation and prejudice created the demand for a “great white hope” who would defeat a black boxing champion.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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Also adapted into a really good movie starring James Earl Jones and Jane Alexander…
No fault to the playwright, but the phrase “great white hope” goes back at least to 1910 (see reference above to Jack Johnson–who was the source material for the play).
There is no other reading for the use of this term, regardless of what was said above:
I have to say, in this case I don’t think she meant anything by it. “Great white hope” is a pretty well known phrase.
The US eventually reconciled to having black sports heroes, but a colored president? Oh noes!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 amThere’s a good reason why the GOP has NO African American federally elected officials in Congress or the Presidency.
They don’t WANT any.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:26 amAh Ms. Jenkins, the GREAT WHITE DOPE..
August 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am“There may be some misunderstanding there when she talked about the great white hope,” said spokeswoman Mary Geiger. “What she meant by it is they have a bright future. They’re bright lights within the party.”
“And, clearly, anyone with a bright future in the Republican Party is white, so what’s the big deal?”
I understand those few who seek to minimize the racial overtones of “Great White Hope” but come on… anyone who’s in politics and is that tone-deaf to language must be a Republican. I think Marie has it right.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:27 amThere’s a good reason she made this ‘mistake’. As bartcop tells us, in Law Number something-or-other:
When a government or an entity profits from a ‘mistake’, expect them to make that ‘mistake’ over and over again.
Using that phrase is a dog whistle. It brings out the troops, armed to the teeth and credit cards ready to contribute. We must protect the children from the insatiable drooling darkies!
Like a charm, it voiks.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:31 amAll politicians need to be very careful of what they say……except Republicans who have a quick reference “Spew and Spin” excuse book, and a free pass from most of the media.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:33 amRep. Lynn Jenkins says the GOP needs a ‘great white hope’ to thwart President Obama.
– - Style points for honesty, intentional or not.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:33 amOpen mouth, insert foot.
Way to go, cracker.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:35 amPlease read the wikepedia regarding Jack Johnson.
The fight of the century (at the time) which included the “great white hope”, had a band playing “All coons look alike to me”, and had the crowd yelling “Kill the N*****!”
Nice reference there, eh Lynn?
And believe you me, this has NOTHING to do with Lite Brite by Mattel.
You deserve the mucking foron award of the day!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:36 amRepublicans:
Paging Captain Ahab…
August 27th, 2009 at 10:39 amIf you follow the link to the article, Jenkins’ spokesmodel Mary Geiger doesn’t really make things better:
Mary Geiger, a spokeswoman for Jenkins, said the reference to a great white hope wasn’t meant to denote a preference by Jenkins for politicians of a particular “race, creed or any background.”
Geiger released the following statement on Jenkins’ behalf: “There’s no doubt the Republican Party has gone through some dark and challenging times in recent years, but thankfully bright young leaders have stepped up to lead the party into the future
Oooo… “dark times”…
Do they even re-read their statements before they deliver them?
Do they have no awareness of language and the perspectives of others? Well, Republicans typically pay less attention to the perspectives of others than Democrats, that’s true, but I think it’s mostly like Daddy-O said:
When a government or an entity profits from a ‘mistake’, expect them to make that ‘mistake’ over and over again.
Using that phrase is a dog whistle. It brings out the troops, armed to the teeth and credit cards ready to contribute. We must protect the children from the insatiable drooling darkies!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:40 amRepublicans are “struggling” because they’ve remained
August 27th, 2009 at 10:41 amthe party of “Great White Nope”.
A Jenkins spokeswoman told the Topeka Capitol-Journal yesterday that “the congresswoman wanted to apologize for her word choice and to emphasize she had no intention of expressing herself in an offensive manner in public.” “Let there be no misunderstanding there when she talked about the great white hope,” said spokeswoman Mary Geiger. “What she meant by it is they have a white future. They’re white lights within the party.”
There. fixed it.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:48 amShe said exactly what she meant to say. There’s no need to call it a freudian slip at this point.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:51 amHow refreshing. A Republic who is open and honest about her racism.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:52 amRep. Lynn Jenkins says the GOP needs a ‘great white hope’ to thwart President Obama.
Why, madame, how *very* HONEST of you!!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:53 amOh , there is no misunderstanding in book……..this is clearly and overtly a Racist remark.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 amchoejm says:
Where do Republicans keep getting these women?
It’s pretty amazing, isn’t it. It looks like every Republic woman is as ugly as they come. There isn’t one with an ounce of compassion or integrity. I guess it comes from the rules you have to pass to be a Republic. You have to be:
1. A liar
August 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am2. A hypocrite
3. Lacking a soul
4. Lacking a heart
Sorry, apology NOT accepted.
She knew and meant exactly what she said.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:00 amThere seem to be lots of women with daddy issues. The neurosis which causes women to be Republics likely due to physical, mental, and/or sexual abuse by their fathers. It is difficult to feel sorry for a monster like Lynn Jenkins, but her sickness was caused by someone else.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:04 amThe Republics have a lot of WHITE but none of it is all that GREAT. In fact it is all pretty HOPEless.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am“Republicans are struggling right now to find the great white hope,” said the great white dope.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:23 amOuch.
What could possibly lead her to do this (a la Ross Perot’s “You People” speech to the NAACP):
She was using the phrase without thinking; and is totally tone deaf – which, in itself, implies she isn’t fit to govern.
She is racist.
Freudian Slip. (at least this one **may possibly** coexist with her trying to work on her problems).
She intentionally used it to stir up the base.
None of these explanations are reallly very complimentary toward her. What’s next – speeches on the White Man’s Burden ? (and dare I suggest that the empire building of the Bush neocons could be a form of the White Man’s burden ?)
August 27th, 2009 at 11:24 amA pathetic, embarrassed conservative jumps right into the fray: “I have to say, in this case I don’t think she meant anything by it. “Great white hope” is a pretty well known phrase.”
Hey stupid! Your biggest and fattest conservative talker says this all the time. I’m sure you’ve heard him say it: “Words mean things!”
In this case, the words echo a social phenomenon from the early 20th century, when the white population was stunned and outraged as Jack Johnson proceeded to own every pasty-faced cracker who stepped into the ring with him. The white world longed for and openly called for a “Great White Hope,” a white guy who could beat this upstart black guy. There’s even a movie about it starring James Earl Jones. It’s called “The Great White Hope.”
So please conservatives. Don’t embarrass yourselves any further by trying to pretend you don’t know what this is all about.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 amThese republican racist don’t even bother to use code words anymore like “welfare queens” or “states rights”. Now they just come out and say it.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:42 amNo racism there, hey BIMBO!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:48 amMaybe they should have a white elephant sale…. or perhaps she was referring to a giant white fail whale…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:52 amUhhh…YES! She did speak what was TRULY on her mind…and on the minds of many other Rushpublic / BushCo, KKK, fat-white-angry, racist GOPers.
They simply CANNOT stand that some black guy (and I’m sure they are using other terms) is the President. In their tiny, no-child-left-behind, home schooled, Fox watch’n minds…they HATE having President Obabma where he is…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:55 amLet me make this as simple as possible- “Hey Lynn, Kiss my BLACK ASS !”.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pmThe scary thing is that she is considered a moderate Republican in the state of Kansas. It makes me wonder what Jim Ryun, the arch-conservative Congressman who was ousted in 2006 would have said.
I’d pour more invective upon her and the state of Kansas, but their own words are enough to make them a laughingstock.
Remember that this was the state board who tried to strike evolution from the textbooks.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pmMatt, you’re so wrong. Cantor isn’t white — he’s Joo-ish — & the other two guys aren’t white — they’re Eye-rish. Rep. Jenkins has someone in mind who’s more a descendant of Jefferson Davis or Stonewall Jackson — REAL Americans (uh, except for that little Civil War fiasco).
The Constant Weader at RealityChex.com
August 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pmI love all the back-tracking. Why didn’t she just say that instead of saying great white hope.
She should have referred to people of color in the Repub Party, oh wait, let me back-track are there any people of color except for Michael Steele and…?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pmShe could have meant “bright” instead of “white.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, sure.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pmAre you sure she didn’t say “Great White Taupe”?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pmWell, if she meant their future’s so bright they gotta wear shades, why didn’t she just say so, instead of using a phrase which carries a certain amount of racist freight around with it.
Stupid much, Congresscritter?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pmBut Obama’s half white. Does that count? Guess not.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm71. Art sez:…
Nah, she meant to say “Great White Dope”.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:06 pm23. Marie sez:…
You are correct about “The Great White Hope” being a title of a play, Marie, but the phrase actually entered the vocabulary at the very time and in the circumstances that the play addresses. Jack Johnson was the first black World Heavyweight Champion, winning the title in 1908, and there was a subsequent outcry among various and sundry people, including some that we might not today have thought would be racist, for a “Great White Hope” to beat Johnson. The wikipedia entry for Johnson is a fairly good one, but there are also a couple of biographies on Johnson, as well as some other historical works that detail some of his story.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pmNow it’s interesting that Eric Cantor is listed as the Great White Hope when he was to busy to work on Health Care because he had to go to the Britney Spears Concert. Rep. Jenkins might feel strongly Racist and Hate as she suggest at the town hall but more Americans showed we’ve passed that stage and have moved forward.
Anyone ever notice how in the hospital babies don’t have a problem being next to each other and check out some grave sites with people who are buried next to one another all those done with people of all races. Yet it’s only a problem in the middle of our lives that we seem to put race as the problem with each other. Ok I’m lucky I was taught races isn’t how you judge a person so I have friends of all races and it’s good.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pmUnder what circumstances would you actually use the phrase “great white hope”…an advertisement for teeth whitening products maybe…I don’t know. Perhaps some bleaching product used on clothing.
It really makes no sense. Even if you’re unfamiliar with the historical use of the phrase.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pmLooks like Jenkins made a big oopsie. These are the kind of statements that will haunt legislators who try to seek higher office.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pmIf you look up “Great White Hope” at Wikipedia, the earliest reference is for heavyweight boxer James Jeffries’ (white) attempt to win the title from Jack Johnson (African-American) in 1910.:
“became known as “The Fight of the Century”, soon became a symbolic battleground of the races. The media, eager for a “Great White Hope”, found a champion for their racism in Jeffries. He said, “I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro.”[1] A furor was created at the fight, as a ringside band played, “All coons look alike to me”.[2]
Nope, no racism there! snark
August 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pmUh, Repubs, your KKK element is not going to like Eric Cantor since he is kinda Jewish. Just Saying.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pmI didn’t see those have already been said by ConstantWeader, DRxJ, and Virtual Pebble. Oh well….
Our ancestors all came from Africa. Unless you use the biblical version—-then they all came from a place near Baghdad.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pmOnly if she tries to leave Kansas.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm.
Dear LiberalMedia @#3,
Just like you pray to your Great White Jesus…?
Ya, keep prayin’.
.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pmyeah, we know what she meant.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:29 pm“Rep. Lynn Jenkins says the GOP needs a ‘great white hope’ to thwart President Obama.”
File Jenkins’ statement under: Where did the valet park my brain?
If only Jenkins would pick of the DVD of the movie with actor James Earl Jones in “Great White Hope,” then maybe she would have reconsidered not making her foot-in-the-mouth comment.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pmKeith says:
Uh, Repubs, your KKK element is not going to like Eric Cantor since he is kinda Jewish. Just Saying.
Keith, Eric Cantor will take EVERY SINGLE KKK VOTE he can get, and he’ll get plenty.
And he’ll vote for their specific interests every time, except POSSIBLY the anti-Jewish ones. And maybe even them. Cantor is one of the ghetto cops in Warsaw, historically speaking.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pmIts funny how the republicans will defend this statement as not at all racist, but our newest Supreme Court Judge referring to herself as “a wise Latina” well now, THAT is racist!!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm#75 VP
August 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pmThanks for the more complete information.
Hey Keith, let’s not forget the end of that little 1910 story about “Big Jim Jeffries,” who was the first “Great White Hope.”
Jack Johnson kicked his ass.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:45 pmIn 1915 a white by the name of Jess Willard kicked Johnsons ass.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pmNinerFan,
August 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pmI also heard the expression used in boxing in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s. Believe it was also said of Larry Bird. (Yep, wikipedia says it, so it must be true)
conservative guy,
Willard had an advantage over Johnson, in that Willard was 33 and Johnson 37 at the time. Since the fight went 26 rounds, you could probably say it was close. Did he literally kick his ass?
Willard at age 37, lost to Jack Dempsey.
Johnson had an advantage over Jeffries in that Jeffries had been retired 6 years.
My father was in the army with Max Baer (Jethro’s dad).
August 27th, 2009 at 5:22 pmI haven’t seen the movie in years, but it has a young James Earl Jones as Jack Johnson and I remember thinking that this actor is going to be around for a long time. He was fantastic.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pmIn 1915 a white by the name of Jess Willard kicked Johnsons ass.
– But Johnson’s dick was still bigger…
August 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pmdbadass, links?
August 27th, 2009 at 5:41 pmHmm, how about Republicans thinking about a “great white whale” instead… Something that Captain Ahab was obsessed about chasing around the ocean…featured in Herman Melville’s novel, Moby Dick, published back in 1851.
Why are Republicans so obsessed with “white?” Are they insecure or just plain uptight about anyone else who is not as uptight as they are?
August 27th, 2009 at 5:46 pmNinerFan,
Getting off topic: James Earl Jones was in Dr. Strangelove six years before that as Lieutenant Lothar Zogg.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:53 pmNow the comment is interesting as is that what she might think of let’s say Tiger Woods? When the United States won gold medals in the Olympics we cheered a proud Americans and not one person say a word about the race of the winner it was all about being American. Excuses are made as Jenkins said she misspoke. But we know she said what she meant and meant what she said. It was the video that is the reason for the apology. Interesting that Rep. Jenkins is from Kansas which is the same State as President Obama’s Mother and grandparents. I wonder how Jenkins really feels about Jackie Robinson, Mohamed Ali and Dr. King? We just lost thousands of soldiers of all races who are Americans and she just showed what their sacrifice was for.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:59 pmJust another lying sac of sht.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:43 pmWell, another KKKonservanazi republiKlanswoman expresses her party’s feelings. Gee, I never thought these wingnuts wuld be so racist. Well, dingbat Jenkins, keep up the good work. I’m sure you’re a good white christain, also.
AS the wingnuts express their true feelings, they are telling the voters that they are a bunch of racist, looney idiots. Keep it up until at least 2012. Morons.
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
August 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pmBULLSHIT!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pmI do know Jess Willard was brought out of retirement to secure the win but I believe this time around it will be a new name like Tim Pawlenty or John Thune.
August 28th, 2009 at 1:34 amconservative guy says:
Willard did NOT kick Johnsons ass. Johnson dominated most of the fight. If it had gone 15 rounds like fights today Johnson would have won the fight easily by decision. After 26 rounds the older smaller Johnson tired and was knocked out but saying Willard kicked his ass is a vast overstatement.
August 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pmvery thanks for article!
August 31st, 2009 at 11:12 am