Town Hall Attendee Confronts McCain: ‘Why Don’t I Have The Health Insurance You’ve Got!’
Town Hall Attendee Confronts McCain: ‘Why Don’t I Have The Health Insurance You’ve Got!’
Over this past month, it has become a customary sight at town halls across the country to witness angry protesters mouthing right-wing talking points against health reform. But yesterday, in a town hall forum in Phoenix, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was confronted by an attendee who voiced passionate anger in support of health reform:
Why don’t I have the health insurance you’ve got! Because I’m paying for it! And I’m paying for the President of the United States’ health insurance and Congress’ health insurance. Why don’t I have that! I’m your employer! I’m your employer! You work for me, and you’ve got a better health insurance plan than I’ve got!
McCain responded, “You’re exactly right. That’s why I want to make health care insurance available and affordable to you sir.” Watch it:
Federal employees have excellent health care because they are provided an array of affordable choices. Obama is pushing to expand choice for all Americans by creating a national health insurance exchange — modeled on the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program — “where Americans can one-stop shop for a health care plan, compare benefits and prices, and choose the plan that’s best for them, in the same way that Members of Congress and their families can.”
“One of these options,” Obama said, “needs to be a public option. It will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market so that we can force waste out of the system and keep the insurance companies honest.” But McCain adamantly opposes the public option.
Last night, McCain told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that America just “is not ready” for quality “government-run health care.”
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Town Hall Attendee Confronts McCain: ‘Why Don’t I Have The Health Insurance You’ve Got!’
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August 27th, 2009 at 11:42 amThat really was an excellent question that I’d like to see more politicians answer. About damn time.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:42 amUntil McSame and his butt-head siblings and colleagues finally realize that going on with ANY ONE on Cluster-Fox news to try to pander to the nut-bag base and then come and try to lie their way around any answer of substance, their credibility goes DOWN by the hour.
Hannity is a serial abuser of everything rational. He needs to be used as a real-life cases study in obsessive, irrational behavior for all the schools for the retarded. McSame can be one (and usually is) one of hannity’s stooges.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:46 amYet, every time he crashed a military aircraft he was eventually provided government-run health care to treat his injuries.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:48 amIt’s about time that the repiggies be confronted on their lax, lazy disinterest in any real health coverage reform.
The only hope is with the Dem supermajority.
We need the Public Option for our brothers and sisters who can’t get coverage due to pre-existing condition or to prohibitive cost.
Screw the repiggies, and screw the teabagger trash.
Let’s honor the memory of Sen. Kennedy and get this done.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:48 amPoll after poll contradicts McCain’s assertions on FoxNews.
Americans are more than ready for quality, government-run health care options.
It’s the repiggies and their health insurance oligarchs who aren’t ready.
Screw the repiggies, and screw the teabagger trash.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:52 amHey, teabaggers, wake up and smell the coffee!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:54 amWhy couldn’t it have been McCain instead of Kennedy?
Yep, there is no doG.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:54 amOh if only there were several folks that could get to the mic and say this at ALL those Rushpublic types town halls.
I would be WONDERFUL!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:56 amWhy don’t I have the health insurance you’ve got!
Well, at least McCain didn’t pull a Grassley and tell the constituent that if he wanted his health care, he could just get himself elected to the Senate.
McCain’s been in the Senate for over 20 years and he hasn’t gotten health insurance for us being any closer to becoming a reality, maybe because he’s got his.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pmAgain, McCain has not learned to keep the mic out of the hands of those who attend his meetings–regardless of what “side” they’re on. Isn’t there and aide somewhere making a note: “Never give the water hose to the kid and never give the mic to anyone attending a McCain rally.”
August 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pmSoapbox you are wonderful.
/snark
August 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pmMcCain responded, “You’re exactly right. That’s why I want to make health care insurance available and affordable to you sir.”
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Did I miss something? Did McCain propose legislation that would do that very thing? Or does McCain think that if he joins the chorus of obstructionists trying to block the only proposal on the table this will somehow make health care insurance “available and affordable”?
I’ve mentioned the young man living in my area who just graduated from college and has insulin-dependent Type 1 diabetes. He can’t find a job with an employer who provides health insurance because of the distressed job market, he can’t be covered by his parents’ insurance any longer because he’s out of college and he’s over age, and he can’t get insurance on his own because no insurance company will accept him due to his pre-existing condition. He needs insulin to live. He can’t pay for it himself out of his pocket. And I’m willing to bet this guy isn’t the only person in the country in this situation.
Would SOME Republican please explain how this young man can get “available and affordable” insurance, and what, SPECIFICALLY, they are doing to advance toward that goal?
Or do the anti-health care reform people just think guys like this should do the decent thing and die?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pmAffordable? Here we have a FED that works to keep inflation at a positive rate.
Average Cost of new house $28,000 1971
Avg Cost of house today $314,000 2007
Thats 1121% percent inflation
Health insurance [private] doubled from 2000 to 2008 and is set to double again. Politicians are in the hands of the FIRE sector and Health insurance is set to double again by 2020.
I dont see very few in congress working to lower insurance rates. The blue dogs just took another 1.1 million from the health insurance folks — why thats like a kickback [you protect our profits and we give to your campaign]
August 27th, 2009 at 12:02 pmMcCain responded, “You’re exactly right. That’s why I want to make health care insurance available and affordable to you sir.”
“Just not as available and affordable as mine.”
Given the wealth in the Senate, none of these people should qualify for government health care benefits anyway.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm“McCain’s been in the Senate for over 20 years and he hasn’t gotten health insurance for us being any closer to becoming a reality, maybe because he’s got his.”
And since healthcare is a limited item (not so but in their minds) it must be rationed, and Congress is rationing healthcare by making the citizens pay through the nose for their healthcare while they enjoy the BEST FREE GAWD DAMN HEALTHCARE ON THE PLANET.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm“just not ready for” is something a withholding parent says to their kid. You “just aren’t ready” to date boys, you “just aren’t ready to take the bus alone…” It is incredibly patronizing for him to speak of us that way.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pmRe: Badmoodman @ 1…and yippee-ki-yay fothermucker!
McCain has had public health care all his life. Taxpayers have pretty much paid the freight on everything he owns, as well as what he has ucked fup. Everything else was Cindy’s.
I guess that public health insurance pretty much is the province of the elites, but not good enough for, oh, I don’t know, the people who actually produce things!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pmApparently there’s some macho ritual you have to go through first before you can be officially “ready” for health care.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pmWE should deduct the cost of the 5 planes McSenile crashed from his Healthcare bill.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pmHow is healthcare a “limited item”?
Are we not graduating Doctors and Nurses from our Universities any more?
How is Congress making citizens pay throught their noses?
Last I checked, Cigna hadn’t been elected Senator.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pmMcCain wants to give taxpayers a $5k tax credit to buy insurance. He’s so stupid that he thinks you can buy his insurance for that price. Maybe $20k would get you his coverage but believe me insurers never deny payment for any elected official. They’ll do that for anybody else no matter how much they pay in premiums.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pmHis personal Healthcare bill. Not “Bill” He would never offer a Healthcare Bill for the people.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pmHow is healthcare a “limited item”?
I said it was limited in their minds.
How is Congress making citizens pay throught their noses?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pmBecause as long as they mandate us having to only be allowed to PURCHASE health insurance we are screwed and must pay through the nose for it.
I’m beginning to be rather tickled at the prospect of seeing people like McSame tarred-and-feathered if he and his pals defeat what WE want.
It’s about time the left got even rather than just got mad.
It’s our money. We ought to be able to tell them how to spend it.
And ALL Federal employees receive huge subsidies from taxpayers for their health benefits.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pmSure, McCain and the Republicans will come up with a health care bill for the people.
The Health Insurance people, the Hospital Corporation people, the Big Pharma people…
snark/
August 27th, 2009 at 12:11 pmLast night, McCain told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that America just “is not ready” for quality “government-run health care.”
Well, I guess McCain should know, since he has it, himself.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pmBased on the evidence presented in the media over the last few weeks, I’d say that the priority should be a nice thorough political and social re-education program running simultaneously with a national mental health triage.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pmNot exactly. Obama is pushing to expand choice for some Americans. Everyone else that gets insurance through you’re employer, you’re stuck with it.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pmMcCain has never had to worry about getting health insurance. He has been in the military and in the Senate so he has always been a part of a government run plan. And if he wasn’t he has Cindy’s money to fall back on and buy some insurance.
He should have the b@lls to vote for and offer this to the American people. Why are he and his fellow repubs and some dems making this so difficult!?!?! All for insurance industry cash??
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmSo what kinda program do you have mind if not a public option……..or is it still the same old status quo.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmNice strawman watchdung.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmI call BS, the health insurance industry doesnt treat people, so them saying that they are making private health care better and more affordable is total BS
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmthenextguy:
no – you’re not stuck with it.
DCounselor – ok – i get you there…
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmIf we have a shortage of doctors it’s because doctors whose children would have gone into the family business stopped encouraging their children to do that because of the demands put on them by the health insurance industry to take severely reduced payment and to hire 10 extra people to do so. That has been going on for 20 years. I’ve been to doctors offices who had signs up that they wouldn’t take any new HMO patients and some that would only bill for patients on Medicare.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pmAugust 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Proof?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pmMcCain says that America “is not ready” for quality “government-run health care.”
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Translation: It isn’t time to give the American people a decent meal. They will have to settle for the crumbs off of the rich man’s tables.
In reality, it is the strategic mistake of the Democratic lawmakers to not start out either with single payer or the same coverage that they get for being in Congress. That way, the public option is the ‘great compromise and concessions’ passed instead of the public option being the starting point and having the obstructionists chisel away at that in the false name of compromise.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pmCars and home ownership are not necessities. Ride a bike or take a bus and rent. Health insurance for all Americans is a necessity. But, you are too obtuse to understand these simple facts.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pmWhat are you, some kind of communist?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
actually – benchdog strawmen aside – i don’t think there should be any “for profit” insurance of any kind, for anything.
it’s all immoral. non-profit public trusts could handle the whole thing, and we’d all be a lot better off and receive a lot better coverage.
insurance companies produce nothing and add no value to anything. they are parasitic by definition, and pernicious in their effects on our polity and society.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pmGood thing Crusty didn’t include ‘quality’ in that business about the nation not being ready for government run health care. That really would have crossed the line; Faiz having inserted it is going to throw a few people.
I think people probably are ready for a quality health care system, including an insurance or pre-payment risk control segment, but how we get there from where we are now certainly creates a lot of stupid disputation.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pmArizona & Florida probably have the oldest demographics in the USA.
If our elderly medicaid recipients start to show up at Town Halls & get vocal about true reform, this whole charade by the Republics could blow up in their faces.
McCain has been feeding off the public teat his entire life.
Here’s a man who doesn’t even know how many houses he owns trying to tell us poor people don’t need ‘his insurance’.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pmThank you for someone FINALLY asking that question ! Every Americans right or left should be demanding the same healthcare that McCain and the rest are enjoying. And the choices. Don’t fool yourself about the wait time being long,for government care, right now a retired American pilot friend has been waiting since May for a hip replacement might happen in Oct.
Can anyone explain why taxpayers shouldn’t have the same health insurance as the people we send to Washington ?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pmAnd $1500/year for a family WOW !
You’re comparing apples to Volvos. Care to stay on topic, or are you too stupid to do so?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pmNobody is forcing you to drive a car watchdung. Give up the stupid strawman you dumbass.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pmGrampy McSame says – My friends back in the day only us Have-Mores had health insurance that was affordable, those pesky Have-nots, well they can just go out in the woods and die, but now a days you whine about ‘you can’t afford it’, ‘they won’t give it to me’, ‘I had it and then when I got sick they kicked me out’, you’ve got some boot straps, right, well, use them, my health insurance is kickass, and I don’t want you guys getting the same deal because you are nobodies, little people, serfs, you stay off my lawn, and the republican party needs those contributions from big Pharma, big Insurance, if we give the little people breaks next thing you know, they will be happy and we all know that life is not about being happy, it’s about being grumpy and mean, grrrrrr, see, that’s mean…uh oh, I just put a mean load in my diapers.
We know Grampy, it’s fine for you but fcuk Americans, let them go out on the ice flow and die.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pmSingle payer!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pmFinally a “Town Hall” meeting instead of a “Clown Hall” meeting.
YAY!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pmKudos, Buckie Boy, Grampy today is…well, he’s still McSame.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pmDo you think its fair for insurance companies to make money off of people who are made to insure their autos?
Well, they arent making money off the auto, they are making money off the policy. And if they are lobbying politicians to protect profits by removing competition and keeping rates artificially high, I think, thats wrong.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pmwormydog needs some wormer.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pmSenator, we are ready to have the profit motive removed from health insurance. When profits increase over 400% while the actual payouts decrease from 95 to 80% we have something in between us and our doctors.
When the goal of insurance companies are to keep their share holders happy at the cost of the publics health we have a problem. Removing the profit motive, increasing continuity and standards within the healthcare industry and focusing on preventative care for all americans would be a great first step.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:29 pmYes I do. People can choose not to drive and you only have to have homeowners insurance because of your mortgage company not because the government says you have to. In fact many of the same elderly showing up at these town hall meeting keep driving years after they should stop. I guarantee old people kill as many as drunken drivers do but because old people vote so religiously nobody will enforce stricter regulations on them. These people don’t HAVE to drive to WORK after all.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:29 pm“America is just not ready for quality government run healthcare.”
It’s the American corporatocracy that is’nt ready for “quality government run” healthcare.
Speaks volumes about who congress-critters consider their true constituents to be.
They could care less about “we the people.”
August 27th, 2009 at 12:31 pmBut maybe tombaker is right fleabag, if we HAVE to have insurance then maybe some kind of regulation should be set up so that citizens are not being ripped off for expenses than aren’t theirs like subsidizing bit losses in the stock market and paying hundreds of millions in salaries to CEOs. Maybe government run insurance is just what we need. Thanks.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pmWaxman is holding hearing to reveal profits the insurance companies are bleeding the American people and giving their CEOs. The healthcare issue is not going away until everybody has credible healthcare.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:34 pmReally watchpoo, transfer of risk? You don’t think we pay for a lot of costs that don’t relate to our personal coverage. You are such a fool.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pmthe dog b trippin today!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pmAnd this too! :)
August 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pmMaybe there is a God. We came “this close” to having McCain and Palin in office. Holy crap!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:38 pmwatchdog likes to pay more and get less.
that’s what he thinks “freedom” means.
(and it’s the only kind of screwing he’s likely to get any of)
August 27th, 2009 at 12:38 pmYou don’t understand it because you’re dumb, repiggie, but the healthcare issue isn’t going away this time like last ever again until everybody has credible insurance.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pmMy guess is that the Repulsives and Dems who are getting paid to oppose reform, will just try to weather the storm (with their storm troopers) by SAYING that we need reform. And then they will find a dozen ways to say “we aren’t ready!” We won’t be ready until they are ready, which will be in…….?????
August 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pmtombaker says
August 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
How is healthcare a “limited item”?
Are we not graduating Doctors and Nurses from our Universities any more?
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Well, to be fair, Death Counselor DID say it was limited “in their minds”. But the subject of alleged “rationing” is a frequent Republican meme and deserves some discussion.
I was talking about health care with an acquaintance of mine last weekend, and he was trying to tell me (with a straight face), that strict limits on doctors graduating from medical schools are mandated by the government, as a glut of doctors would be bad for the industry. His brother, you see, is a doctor — and told him this. Therefore, since the number of doctors is limited, health care will be rationed. There simply isn’t enough to go around.
I was a bit taken aback, since I hadn’t heard this particular fairy tale before. I tried doing some research on the subject, but I was unable to find anything to back this up. I’m prepared to believe there is a finite number of medical schools in this country, and that each medical school has a finite number of slots for students. This is fairly obvious, and is true about virtually any field of study. But — mandated by the government? That’s a new one — and one with no evidence I can find.
There are a lot of doctors practicing in this country who have gotten their medical degrees elsewhere — Mexico, Europe, Asia, the Caribbean, etc. (natives of these countries AND American citizens who have gone outside the country for their education). The government isn’t preventing them from practicing as long as they pass their medical exam and fulfill all other requirements for licensing.
The idea that we are only allowed X number of doctors in this country is about as absurd as the idea that we are only allowed X number of teachers. As the population of school children grows and shrinks, the number of teachers does, too. And so it will be with the demand for physicians.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:44 pmmisscoleopteramolly @ 12:01pm
I have an adult child with Type I diabetes. Once your friend’s insurance lapsed, they probably would not reinstate it. And if they did, the premiums would not make it cost effective.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pmMy son is employed in our business and has been able to keep coverage, but the premiums have tripled in the past five years, even with a much larger deductible. The insurance company also limits the amount of supplies they will pay for ( rationing!).
And insulin prices have gone through the roof.
Under the current insurance system, the only option an adult
with a pre-condition has is medicaid,
which is basically taking an oath of poverty.
My son’s situation is what brought me here.
I will not submit to a status quo of inhumanity.
All these voices must be heard.
I know I am ready! Who is this “America” of whom he speaks? The health insurance I now have through my job is OK, but what if something happens? (like major illness or job loss) You can pay for COBRA for 18 months, but if you can’t get a good job within that time frame, you are on your own. And if you get sick in the meantime, you are screwed. We have to insist on a public option if only for those with no other viable option!!! And they do exist!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pmGiving more to CEOs and shareholders doesnt create wealth it transfers it upward.
Trickle down doesnt work because its raining upward.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:54 pmIt’s absurd to have people’s healthcare dependent on the wild west free market.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pmand where would the transfer of risk go from medicare if it were expanded to encompass statistically healthier age groups? How much money do you think that would save us, ben stein?
You haven’t convinced me watchdog. After blue cross raised premiums %80 forcing us to switch to aetna which is currently raising premiums %12-%23, I am willing to take my chances giving control to some of the same people who can still get my mail anywhere in the country for under 50 cents.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pmDon worry McCain is going to fix that
/SNARKITY SNARK SNARK
August 27th, 2009 at 12:58 pmmisscoleopteramolly says:
The insurance lobby is not only throwing the kitchen sink of lies at this, but also the garbage disposal, the cabinet around the sink, the pipes leading down into the floor and half the house to prevent the inevitable. We will win this and have decent healthcare, finally.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pmwatchdog says
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Do you think its fair for insurance companies to make money off of people who are made to insure their autos?
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Ah, but you can choose to own an automobile. Or not. You can’t choose to have a body — you’re pretty much stuck with the one you’re born with. Furthermore, if you crash your car and you don’t have the insurance to fix it, you’re out a car. If your body fails and you don’t have the insurance to fix it, you die. We as a society aren’t willing to let people die just because they can’t afford health care, so we pick up the slack one way or another — something we don’t do for automobiles. The two really aren’t comparable.
But since you mentioned auto insurance, let me give you my observations of the auto insurance situation in California, where I spent the entire decade of the 1980’s.
California has more registered automobiles than any other state in the country. And there are high concentrations of them in the Los Angeles area (pretty much all the way to San Diego), and the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Lots of cars mean lots of accidents, so insurance is rather expensive. Enough that many people opted not to buy it, even though the law required it.
One of the reasons why insurance was so expensive was a portion of the policy called “uninsured motorist” coverage. This meant that if you got plowed into by another driver (not your fault), and that other driver wasn’t insured and couldn’t pay the damages, your “uninsured motorist” coverage would kick in and your own policy would cover the damage to your vehicle, your medical expenses, and any other property damage from the accident.
Naturally, more people without insurance meant the cost of “uninsured motorist” coverage for everyone else increased. And with every increase, another layer of people would let their insurance lapse because they couldn’t afford it (but would still drive their cars anyway, as long as they could get away with it). Therefore, you had a situation where you had more and more uninsured people being supported by fewer and fewer insured people — who were paying more and more. It’s an unsustainable situation, and one that has already resulted in “no-fault” insurance being issued in some states, to do away with the uninsured motorist coverage. This means when two cars collide, each driver gets paid by his own insurance, regardless of fault. If someone is uninsured, he’s SOL.
The same thing is happening in the health care world. As more people fall out of the insurance safety net, the remaining insureds pick up the slack. And as more and more people join the ranks of the uninsured, the ones that are left find they’re paying higher and higher prices just to keep the whole system afloat. And every time rates go up, another layer of people fall over to the uninsured side.
This isn’t sustainable, either.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pmThe reason why Republicans are trying to kill health care before it gets to a vote is because they do not want to give any potential opponent an issue to club them with. If the matter comes to a vote with a public option then the Republicans & the Blue Dogs will be forced to make a decision between their campaign money or the voters. It will be a no win situation because they face the wrath of both sides. If the public option is killed before it gets to a vote then the conservatives can still collect the campaign money and tell the voters they voted for reform. This still has the potential for the voters turning against the office holder. Some Congressmen would prefer to kill everything so they won’t have repercussions either way because their seats are not solid wins.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:49 pmDog in the manger much, McLoony??
August 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm.
I WANT
CONGRESS
CARE !
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August 27th, 2009 at 2:24 pm.
McInsane thinks insurance companies should continue to profit from my ill health.
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August 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pmmisscoleopteramolly @ #69…
A thoughtful and well expressed post as always.
I have never heard of a mandated cap on medical school grads either. However,there has been a trend over the last couple of decades for students to go into specialized care, rather than primary care, because thats where the big money is. The cost of this education is crushing, and most new doctors go into practice with thousands of dollars of debt.
That said, if a government option includes a reasonable cap on malpractice awards, thus lowering their malpractice insurance premiums(which have also skyrocketed), and a reduction in billing requirements caused by all the various plans on the market, this could result in more students opting for primary care education, with a resulting reduction in the costs of education and more doctors entering the marketplace with the emphasis on preventative care, as opposed to high cost specialized care.
Seems like a win win situation for doctors and patients, currently at the mercy of the insurance companies.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pmInsurance is a transfer of risk you dumb a$$.
Except when they refuse to transfer the risk, and disallow claims, you dumb ass.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pmTown Hall Attendee Confronts McCain: ‘Why Don’t I Have The Health Insurance You’ve Got!’
Answer: “The USA is the largest debtor nation in history. Can’t afford to GIVE that plan to everyone. Maybe we can GIVE you table scraps.”
U.S. National Debt: $11.4 Trillion and counting.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pmkwsventures says:
Town Hall Attendee Confronts McCain: ‘Why Don’t I Have The Health Insurance You’ve Got!’
Answer: “The USA is the largest debtor nation in history. Can’t afford to GIVE that plan to everyone. Maybe we can GIVE you table scraps.”
U.S. National Debt: $11.4 Trillion and counting.
Funny how all of these people who were so gung-ho for war with no concern for the deficit have suddenly found the Gospel of “Fiscal Conservatism…”
August 27th, 2009 at 2:46 pm“I’m your employer! You work for me, and you’ve got a better health insurance plan than I’ve got!”
From today’s episode of “As the Right Wing Turns”…… Wow, the wingnut monsters created by the Victor Frankenstein GOP party are starting to turn on Grandpappy McSame. It’s unfortunately it had to take Senator Kennedy’s death for the wingnuts to wake up and smell the coffee on healthcare reform.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pmLast night, McCain told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that America just “is not ready” for quality “government-run health care.”
If we aren’t ready, then perhaps we should get rid of Medicare…
Although they don’t like it, Republicans getting rid of such a popular program would be alot like getting rid of Social Security…. a Death Wish. After all, they tried to get rid of it by instituting Medicare Plan D.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pmA government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.
Now those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth, and let me remind you they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyranny.
And here we encounter the seeds of government disaster and collapse — the kind that wrecked ancient Rome and every other civilization that allowed a sociopolitical monster called the welfare state to exist.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pmkwsventures says:
A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.
Now those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth, and let me remind you they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyranny.
You must have civic duties confused with what you call “freedom” because only the liberals were complaining about Bush’s trampling of the Constitution. Your “freedom” has now been clarified by the fact that a black man was elected president. You call it freedom and I call it racism.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pmkws – what is welfare state and not welfare state in your mind ? Police protection, fire protection, schools, libraries, highways. So, a little is ok but anything you don’t need is the path to economic disaster ?
My idea of disaster is lying America into war, allowing incompetents to manage 9 billion American dollars, taking a country with a surplus into massive debt, allowing companies to outsource American jobs so more people end up in poverty than ever before.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pmJust a thought, if President Obama were all white would the racists be lining up behind him ? And, check the latest National Geographic, seems WE ALL came from Africa at one time. Poor racists whatever will they have to promote when they understand we are all one people.
August 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pmyou’ll have to excuse kws,
he got on a turnip truck outside Topeka back in ‘72,
and just fell off it back in June.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pmA government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.
Since when have we gotten all we want?
Get real, KWS.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:41 pm“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare but only those specifically enumerated,” Thomas Jefferson
August 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pmkwsventures says:
Yes it is and it was Ronald Raygun who took us from being the worlds largest creditor nation to the worlds largest debtor nation. You pukes dont mind debt when a Republican is making it, especially if they make it bombing brown people. You just want an excuse to snivel about anything a Democrat wants to do. We can never afford to do anything to HELP people. You guys never care about whatever money is spent to kill people or enrich the already wealthy
August 27th, 2009 at 5:58 pmThe Commerce clause is construed very broadly and grants power to regulate interstate commerce. Today, almost all commerce is interstate. The power to regulate commerce is not constrained by any language except that commerce be interstate. All insurance companies are are multistate so health insurance is an interstate issue.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pmconservative guy says:
I guess we better get rid of the FBI, highways, rural electrification, the small business administration the CDC the Air Force, Nuclear weapons, SS,the internet, all those hydroelectric Dams and make this country a third world nation. You really are an idiot
August 27th, 2009 at 6:02 pmMcCain just told a bald-faced lie when he said “I want to make health care insurance available and affordable” as he is not on record as supporting any change that would provide insurance to the uninsured that is affordable. A mean McCain insulted those not friendly to his point of view.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:08 amvery thanks for article!
August 31st, 2009 at 11:09 am